Matt Slick Live: June 14, 2024

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The following program is recorded content created by The Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live!

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Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at karm .org.

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When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers. Taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877 -207 -2276.

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Here's Matt Slick. Hi everybody. Welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick. If you're listening to Matt Slick Live, and as usual, if you want to give me a call, it's easy.

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All you have to do is dial 877 -207 -2276.

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And if you want, you can also email me, info at karm .org, info at karm .org.

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And you can do that very easily, and all you have to do is put in the subject line, radio comment or radio question, and we can get to it.

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Now on Fridays, a lot of times, what we do is hate mail. And we don't have any hate mail, but we do have some regular questions.

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I prefer hate mail. I think hate mail is really good. But we don't have it. How come the

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Karm thing is not on the club deck? Well, we'll find out. Okay.

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And if you want to watch the show, you can do that very easily. You can go to rumble .com forward slash

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Matt Slick Live, and you can watch in there. We have a lot of good people. We chat and joke and have fun, and some friendships have been made in there.

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And so if that sounds interesting, if it sounds like you want to do, then you can go check it out at rumble .com

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forward slash Matt Slick Live. All right. I bet I could write an epic hate mail, says

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John. I actually wrote an article on how to insult me, because a lot of the articles weren't very good.

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A lot of the insults weren't written properly and didn't have good grammar and stuff.

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And so I couldn't get everything to work, you know. Or I couldn't understand them, and I couldn't really appreciate them because they weren't that good.

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So I wrote an article there, how to insult, and something, you know,

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I had 1 through 10, and number 1 is just kind of meager, and 10 is really, really obstreperous. And I said, if you want, you can email me, which numbers you like as an insult.

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And one person wrote 1 through 10, and I wrote back, well said.

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So it was pretty good. So there you go. Hey, look, all right. No, enough of the joking around.

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Like I said, if you want to give me a call, 877 -207 -2276. And I think we have, no, do we have, we don't, yeah, we do.

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We have a hate mail. You know, friars, they do hate mails. Let's see.

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I think I read this one before. And so I'll get into it. Let's see. This is, yeah, hate mail.

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You lose, Matt. Now, that's a good way to start. It's, you know, it's succinct, and it's three words, complete sentence, with a capital and a comma at the proper place.

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So this is good. Good start. Your attempt to justify your innermost problems with your twisted ministry is gone.

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Well, I definitely have some innermost problems. They're still there. So I don't understand how they could be gone.

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That they're saying I'm really getting more sanctified and doing a lot better. That's a nice statement. But, you know, you've got to understand what you're saying.

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You know, it's gone. Anyway. Now, shut down CARM or be arrested. Shut down CARM or be arrested by the

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FBI. Okay, that's what it says. I'm just going to say, I can't get Clubhouse, the

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Matt Slick thing on Clubhouse doesn't show up. It does not show up at all. So you've got to do an invite or something.

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I don't know what's going on, but it's just not there like it normally is. All right. So there you go. All right.

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And this person goes on, I don't know if the FBI is going to get me. If you think

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I'm going to fall for your sick games, I turned you into the Department of Defense, say you're a threat to national security.

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Wow. Wow. I wonder. I wonder how, how that's the case. Woo. So that's pretty good hate mail.

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I like that email. You don't actually have pages of hate mail, but I haven't gotten much. When I first started out,

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I used to get lots of hate mail and lots of lots of it. I did. I always love hate mail.

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I really do. I get all this hate mail. And so I put it in pages and pages on CARM and you can look up hate mail, hate mail and love mail.

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And I put it in there. Maybe I'll go read some of it because some of it's pretty old, but it's still good. All right.

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Uh, okay. Let's see. Yeah, that's just nothing.

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Okay. I'll do some questions. Oh, yeah. Whack -O -Mail. Wait a minute. Whack -O -Mail.

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See, that's a special category. Whack -O -Mail. And it looks like, oh my goodness, one person, one person's filling it up with Whack -O -Mail.

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And, uh, oh my goodness. Look at that. It's pretty good. Let's see. Uh, well, it's been,

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I can't read that one. It's just too long. Um, please, please, pretty please do not sound like the

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Adams family or the Munsters. That attitude makes me sick as some Christians are offended by such a thing.

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What are you talking about? Anyway, uh, I know that being Christian is more important than being Catholic. Yeah. Well, Catholics aren't

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Christians if they follow official Roman Catholic theology. Uh, and then it says Mormonism, blah, blah, blah. Okay.

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But no one's perfect. You got that right. No one is except Jesus. So let's see. Um, how about this one?

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In the Bible, Ezekiel informs us that the record of Judah and Ephraim will be joined together.

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Yeah. In 28. And, uh, it was fulfilled. If you're reading later in the chapter, it's not the Book of Mormon and stuff like that.

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Like I like to say, the Bible is from Judah and the stick of Joseph is from Ephraim. Uh, let's see if they get to it.

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Yeshua informs us the word of Isaiah. Why is this in the wacko category?

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You know, it just really, there's just not as much good wacko stuff. It's not as good as the, the epic, uh, atomic body man, uh, email, which happened about 10 years ago.

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And it was just epic and I was in a particularly good mood. And so I was, uh,

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I was going through, uh, these, these emails, these hate mails and stuff, these wacko emails.

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And I got to this one and an atomic body man, uh, and that's what it was titled. And this guy's pastor apparently was supposed to, um, turn into an atomic body.

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And I just had fun with it. It was one of those emails. It's like, uh, are you, are you kidding me? And a certain date was to turn into an atomic body and all that kind of stuff.

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And, uh, you know, I just had a lot of fun with it, but, and people were talking about it for a few weeks when they, you know,

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I had a radio show here in the area and my friends were like, dude, that was funny. So, uh, well we can't,

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I can't open a, uh, there is nothing in a clubhouse, just like, you know, a little housekeeping here. I have clubhouse opened.

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And I am signed in and I don't see the, uh, the, the, the normal thing that opens up so I can go in there.

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I don't see it. All right. Just telling you, don't see it. So I'm not going to show it or do, but, uh, that's what it is.

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All right. All right. We have nobody waiting. If you want to give me a call, 877 -207 -2276.

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And, um, I'm going to do this. I'm going to start a Matt Slick clubhouse thing.

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I just started it. So I don't know what happened, how it worked, but I got one going so you guys can check it out.

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I'm in it and hopefully that'll work. That makes sense. All right. So let me just get to some regular radio questions.

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Let's see if we can do some of that stuff. Oh, by the way, I was walking around the neighborhood last night. I did four miles and so that's 20 minutes a mile.

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And, uh, I talked to a bunch of people and I had a really good, great conversations.

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I was able to discuss the issue of Unitarianism and why it fails. And I taught on Trinitarianism, Hypostatic Union, Communicati Vida Matam.

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It was a great teaching time. I really enjoyed that. And that was incidentally on clubhouse. All right.

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Let's see. Show question. Um, uh, let's see. How about this?

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Oh, come on. These are too long. I'm a new Christian. Something is confusing me. Uh, yeah, we went over that one already.

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So that's okay. Lynn says, Mr. Slick, hope and pray all is well with you.

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I know you debate a lot of atheist folks. Uh, have you ever talked to Ronald Reagan Jr.? I saw this commercial once and the only thing that stuck was his last comment that he didn't mind burning in hell.

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See, I don't know. I'd be glad to debate him and, uh, anybody, uh, you know, atheist on this stuff.

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But, um, for someone to say something like that, you know, I wouldn't mind burning in hell.

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It's just sheer stupidity. It is. And you just have to say it, you know, I've had atheists tell me, they go, yeah,

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I wouldn't mind burning in hell. And I say, look, that's just stupid. It is. It's dumb. You know, why would you say something like that?

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Because what you're saying is that you don't care what happens and that suffering for eternity is not a problem.

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And the actuality of it, I wouldn't mind burning. It's just dumb. When people say things like that to me,

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I basically, excuse me, basically I try and deal with them.

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I try and get them to see how utterly stupid they are being. And I'm sorry, but that's what it is because they're not, uh, they're not thinking what they're doing is just reacting emotionally and they don't want to see any facts or rationality or stuff.

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So yeah, I would debate him. I'd love to debate him and talk to him about it and honor atheists.

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But anyway, and by the way, I'm supposed to be debating, um, on the 22nd, a week from tomorrow in, in, um,

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Sandy, is it Sandy, Utah? Now the, uh, Mormonism research ministry is, uh,

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I can give more information on all this stuff, but they, they have a center.

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And it's the Mormon Christian. Uh, you know, when they have four words for a name,

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I always get mixed up, but they have a great center. I've been to it. It is really awesome.

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And Andrew Rappaport and I are going to be debating on Saturday, the 22nd at 6pm.

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And if you want more information on this, just go to mrm .org and you can get the information and maybe

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I'll, I'll find it during the break and give you some more specifics. So here we're going to be debating whether or not the spiritual gifts are for today.

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Now this is an important topic to me and, uh, I have some history with this topic and pastoring and things like this, uh, and some other stuff.

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So I'm going to tackle it, uh, and I'm going to prep up on it. So I think it'll be, it'd be interesting, hopefully.

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All right. And if you want information, I'll give you some more, a little bit. Let's get to Janet from Raleigh, North Carolina. Janet, welcome.

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You're on the air. Thank you, Matt. I appreciate it. Um, I just have a quick question.

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I wanted to know, um, maybe you don't have to go into detail or anything, but if you want to just talk about your own personal experience, that's fine.

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But I wanted to ask, how do you stay encouraged or, um, joyful in the midst of unanswered prayer?

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Well, I'm glad God doesn't answer my prayers in a lot of areas. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

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Because, uh, so many of my prayers over the years, I, I came to realize later, weren't very good, even though I thought they were at the time

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I did, if he had answered my prayers the way I wanted to, a lot of the blessings that I would have undergone wouldn't have happened.

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And so what I've learned over the years seriously is, uh, when

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I pray, I pray less and less for what I want. And I just say, Lord, um,

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I don't even know what to pray for. I don't know what your plans are. I don't know if you want me sick or healthy or here or there.

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Doesn't matter to me whatever you want. And if God were to come to me and say,

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Matt, ask me anything and I'll give it to you. What I would say is, okay, this is what

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I ask that you do with me as you desire. That's it. He knows better.

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And so we sometimes, what we'll do is we'll get these prayers, you know, I want this and I want that. And Lord, please, you know, save my daughters, save my neighbors, save, you know, so -and -so heal my wife, all these legitimate prayers and they're not being answered the way

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I would like them answered. But you know, I've learned, God, you're the sovereign king, may your will be done.

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So I ask for their salvation as an example, and then just wait and trust God. I don't get discouraged.

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Hold on. Okay. We've got a break. All right. Okay. So hold on, folks. We'll be right back after these messages.

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Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live.

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Taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

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All right, everyone. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, it's 877 -207 -2276. dial 877 -207 -2276.

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Okay. So it is the Utah Christian Research Center in, and it's in Sandy, the

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Utah Christian Research Center. I've been there. It is really great. Bill McKeever, Eric Johnson run it.

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It's a great facility. The address is on the website. Just go to Utah.

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Just look up Utah Christian Bookstore, I think, in Draper, and on the web, you'll find it. And it's a full schedule of things that are going to be happening there.

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And like I said, on the 22nd at 6 p .m. Saturday evening, I'll be debating on whether or not the charismatic gifts are for today, and then we'll probably have fellowship, food, or something like that someplace somehow afterward.

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All right. Let's get back on with Janet. Janet, welcome. You're back on the air.

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Oh, thanks. Yeah. We were talking about unanswered prayer, and you were saying some of the benefits of it or whatever. Yeah.

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Yes, that's true. That's right. Yeah. But, you know, but sometimes there are prayers that like, you know, my my oldest daughter pray for her salvation and not happening so far.

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We've been praying for years. Well, okay. We just keep praying, you know.

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And you still stay encouraged with all that going on and you don't answer, but you stay motivated for Christ.

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Of course, it would be kind of hard to do, you know, like, oh, I didn't get my prayer answered. But well, so, so, you know, every prayer is answered.

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Yes. No. Wait. One of those three. Yes. No. Wait. Now, sometimes it's another, you know, you ask some stuff.

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You can be careful because if God's going to take you seriously, he might change you. He might put you through some stuff.

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So what I tell people to do is, is you trust God. He doesn't owe you the answer you want.

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He's the sovereign king. If you go into prayer with that attitude, then you'd be fine.

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Now, I have an illustration I use. So a lot of times the will of God, imagine a world and there's this humongous river and this river is the will of God.

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And along the river is a path. And what a lot of people do is run along that path.

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And they want their own path, but they don't want to jump into the will of God and be carried by it.

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They'd rather be outside near it, dipping their toes in the water when they feel like it.

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And then say, God, how come you're not carrying me along? How come you're not answering me? What I say to people is, if you want to be in the will of God, then you've got to change.

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Because what we want is for God to change for us. If you want to be in the will of God, then be changed so that what his will is, is your will.

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So that when you pray, you're praying his will. This takes prayer and it takes time.

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It takes knee time, you know, humble time in the presence of God so that as you're there, you're changed.

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When generally speaking, I think it's my opinion that the more times people are frustrated by God, they don't get the prayers that they want answered.

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It's because they're praying unrighteously, selfishly, and not with humility. And so they get angry with God and they withdraw from God with not trusting him.

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So when you go to pray, it's a trust in God. It's an act of faith. I call it faithing and that's what we should do.

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So we trust God as a sovereign king to do what he's going to do when he does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

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Well, I appreciate it. I just need some more confirmation on that. So I wanted to call you and just see what your take was.

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But thank you so much. I appreciate that. Hey, no problem. God bless you. God bless. Okay.

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Have a good weekend. You too. Thanks. Bye. Happy Father's Day too. Bye. Oh, that's right.

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It's Sunday, isn't it? Huh? Okay. Yep. All right. Have a good weekend with my wife.

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That'd be nice. All right. We'll see you. God bless. Bye. All right. Let's see.

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Let's get to Terry. Terry, welcome. You're on the air. Hi, Matt.

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Hey. I'm struggling with...

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I travel to New York and Miami and Houston, Texas and all over.

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How do you strike up a conversation to someone about Jesus? How do you... How would you recommend someone start a conversation about coming to God?

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I go fishing. I fish. I throw out lures to see if they'll bite. That's what

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I do. So I'll sometimes wear a shirt, like the one I have on right now says, Make 1984

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Fiction Again. That can start up a conversation. Yesterday at the gym, I had a shirt with a cross on the back.

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And so when I talk to people, I use whatever I can. My last name is

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Slick. So when I'm talking to somebody or they need my name for something at a store or whatever,

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I'll say, Yeah, last name Slick. And I say, I'm a reverend, too. It doesn't sound good, does it,

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Reverend Slick? And I say it as a joke and they chuckle because I'm using that as an opportunity to be able to try and maybe have a conversation in a different context in different places.

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And I'm going to pick up tennis again, Lord willing, and I do hope to be able to witness when

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I get in the tennis court. I haven't played for 35 years. I should be pretty decent. And so maybe

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I can get back into it. And what I'm going to do is not tell them what I do. I'm not going to bowl them over.

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I'm going to just be myself. And if they say, Hey, well, what do you do? I run a website.

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And they'll go, Oh, what is it? And then they have the opportunity to slowly earn that right to speak.

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So it's just different contexts. I even thought about getting a shirt that says, if you want to know about Jesus, talk to me.

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Well, I don't know. I don't know. Well, I used to have a shirt that said, literally, it said, ask me your toughest question about God, Jesus, the

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Bible and the Bible. And only one person ever asked me a question.

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And I worked for a couple of years off and on. Only one person ever did. So I tried to know what you're talking about, too.

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You have to know. You have to know how to back that up. Well, you know,

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I have been doing this for decades, so I have a little bit of of things to say about stuff.

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So it was funny what you said to the previous caller was funny. It's exactly what

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I've always said. Jesus said, our Jesus, you said, you said, Jesus will answer you.

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God will answer you. Yes, no, or not right now. That was perfect. What you said to the previous caller.

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Yes. Yeah, and that's right. That's what it is.

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Yes. No, wait. OK, yes, no. Wait. And that's it. So I've had prayers and I'm glad he said no to.

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I am so glad I'm not even I'm not even wise enough to know what to ask unless it's in scripture where Jesus pray for this, then

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I'll pray for it. I'm telling you, you know, thank you,

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Matt. OK. All right, buddy, love you. Happy Father's Day. Hey, you too.

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God bless. All right. OK, bless you. All right. OK, now let's get to Luke from Washington, D .C.

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Luke, welcome. You are on the air. Oh, Matt, how are you doing?

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All right. Hanging in there. What do you got, man? Today, I was talking to one of my brothers and friends.

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Hey, hold on. Sorry about that. We got a break. We got a break. Sorry about that. A little bad timing there. So hold on.

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OK, hey, folks, be right back after these messages with Luke and then we'll get to April from North Carolina.

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We have two open lines, eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. We'll be right back.

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It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six.

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Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome to the show. Welcome back. We have two open lines, eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six.

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Back to Luke from Washington. All right, Luke, that break was a bad time, but that's OK. What do you got, man?

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Is salvation a process? You know, for Protestants, salvation has sanctification, justification and glorification.

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Three of them are a process. Is that process justification, sanctification and glorification?

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So just in these three involved in a process. So therefore, salvation is a process.

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No, it's not. You agree? No, it's not. It's a demonic doctrine to teach that. So justification is a legal imputation, a legal act of God, where he imputes to the righteousness that belongs to him, to God, which is fulfilled and accomplished in Christ.

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You can go to Philippians 3, 9, having therefore been justified by faith. Romans 5, 1, it's a one time event.

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It's permanent. And sanctification is a process that people go under in order to make themselves not make themselves, but to work with with grace, the grace of God to bring them into a better relationship with Christ and be more like him.

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Cults, false religious systems like Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian science, unity, Baha 'i Islam, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, they mess up justification and sanctification.

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They combine them in their foolishness. They think that that they can in any way, shape or form add to the work of God by their sincerity, by their accomplishment to prove it, what their faith is true and all this stuff is just demonic doctrine.

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So justification is accomplished by faith. I can go through the verses in the scripture and show that and put it to rest.

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So if anybody tells you to the contrary, they don't understand biblical theology. OK, in sanctification, it's a process.

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So we are not perfect. So on the same on sale, we all be saved. That's what you said.

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So we are not perfect person. It's going to be an ongoing process, right?

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Sanctification is an ongoing process. Justification is not OK. Sanctification is a process, by definition, a process of becoming more like Christ.

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Justification is not a process. OK, Romans 8 24, for in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen not hope for those for who hopes for that what he already sees.

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And then in Luke 13, 23, and someone said to him, Lord, as there are just a few who are being saved in chapter 16, 31, they said, hold on, hold on.

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You see, when when the heretics bring up these these kind of verses to say that salvation is a process of an individual over a lifetime,

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I'm going to tell you flat out their heretics are false teachers. They're antichrists, period. So when it says, you know, as someone said to him,

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Lord, they're just a few who are being saved is what that being saved there means that there's people you can have 100 people and you could have 20 of them.

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They're being saved one yesterday, one today, one tomorrow, one the next day. It's in that process.

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But when but their individual salvation is instantaneous because God grants that they have faith,

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Philippians one, twenty nine, and he imputes the righteousness to them. Philippians three, nine. This is a one time thing accomplished by faith.

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And I can show it to you in Scripture. So when they quote these verses and this it irritates me because what they're doing is is they're just they're repeating the whisperings of Satan and saying that that you have to go through a process in order to be saved, a process of justification, being baptized, pick the sacraments.

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Don't do this. Do that over the long period of time. Work with the energies of God over a long period of time. You'll end up being saved.

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This is demonic doctrine from the pit of hell. It's false teaching. OK, OK, OK, thank you.

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It is. And this stuff, that's what irritates me because it sounds biblical and they take verses out of context and they twist the word of God to their own destruction.

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And the Bible tells us we need to be able to be aware of this and to be able to refute them. And that's exactly what

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I do when I talk to them who teach this. And I call them on the carpet and I say, you're going to stop believing this don't this demonic doctrine.

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You're going to understand you can't add anything to the blood of Christ, your works and God's blood on the cross don't get you saved.

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And then they give me this this stuff. They say, well, you've got to have faith that works. Look, the true faith isn't what makes you work.

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Regeneration is what does that God living in you. You're then saved and you do good works because of that.

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Faith is a product of God's work in you. Those who have true faith are also regenerated and their works are a result of the regeneration.

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But your works don't contribute with your faith in order to get you saved, keep you saved or regain your salvation.

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And I wish I tell them, I say, you need to stop believing the doctrines of demons. You can understand,

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I tell them, you understand that faith is what God grants. Philippians one twenty nine to you has been granted to believe.

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And Jesus says the work of God is that you believe in him whom he has sent. John six, twenty nine and Romans four, one through five.

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Maybe I'll go on after it and talk about it after the next caller says that justifications by faith.

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Well, I ask them, are we justified by faith? Yes. OK, or justified by faith when we have faith.

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And they don't want to answer the question because they know if they say yes, then their baptism isn't necessary, their sacraments aren't necessary, their good works aren't necessary.

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So you're right. They're not necessary for salvation. This is where the Roman Catholic Church, which teaches a good works along with faith are necessary for salvation, is teaching a demonic, satanic doctrines from the pit of hell because it teaches that paragraph twenty sixty eight, for example, you obtain salvation through faith, baptism and the observance of the commandments.

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And paragraph twenty thirty six says that that's keeping the the precepts of the natural law because their observance is necessary for salvation.

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And in paragraph twenty seventy, it says that the precepts of the natural law are the Ten Commandments. So keeping the

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Ten Commandments is necessary for you to attain salvation. This is where righteousness is back under the law.

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The Eastern Orthodox Church says that baptism is where you attain justification and the energies of God, the graces of God work in you and through you over a period of your life in order to make you more like Christ theosis, by which you then hope to become saved.

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This is all from the pit of the fiery hell, the abode of the

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Antichrist. The devil himself is teaching this through the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church.

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That's the truth. Mormonism is no better. Christian science is no better and Jehovah's Witnesses are no better because they do the same thing.

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They add works to the finished work of Christ on the cross and they have a false gospel.

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So anyone who would teach you that justification is a process or your salvation is a process that you've got to go through, they are not teaching biblical theology.

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They're teaching demonic doctrine. OK, thank you. All right.

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That's that's the that's the Bible. That's the truth. People need to say it and more godly men need to stand up and say it as well.

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All right, buddy. God bless. So, folks, we got a call here. April, we'll get to that maybe afterwards.

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I'm going to go through Romans chapter four, verses one through probably six, and I'll expound on why justification is a one time thing from God's word.

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I know a lot of you need to hear this. A lot of you do need to hear this. OK, let's get to April from North Carolina.

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Welcome. You're on the air. Hello. I was just I've heard you talk about your experience with Jesus that changed your life.

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Yes. I was wondering if you could share that. OK, I'll give you the two minute version before the break,

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OK? All right. You ready? OK. Yes. So 50 years ago, when

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I was 17, I went to a church near where I live because some friends of mine in high school invited me to go and I went and it was a film and about Jesus.

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And the pastor said after the film, who wouldn't mind knowing more about Jesus? I raised my hand. I wouldn't mind knowing more.

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Good. Come forward. The mothers had raised their hands, too. We ended up going forward. I remember thinking I'm going to leave.

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And I still remember looking at the exit sign, even at this minute, I can still see it. This man got out of the crowd of the congregation and started talking to me as he did.

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Each one did with other people. Anyway, he went through the gospel, which I wasn't paying attention to.

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And then I finally started to pay attention when he said, do you want to receive Jesus as your savior?

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And I said, well, to myself, if he's real, I give him a shot. It'll work.

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If he's not real. It won't matter. So I said, I'll give him a shot. But if I'm going to do this, I better be sincere.

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So I prayed, started to pray, and all

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I can tell you is the Holy Spirit himself came over me with such great power that instantaneously

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I was heaving in agonizing tears of repentance. I was in the presence of holiness and I threw myself to the ground, moaning and wailing in agony because I was in the presence of incredible holiness.

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It was incredible. I still remember it. It was unbearable. I remember weeping and moaning, almost yelling out my agonizing tears.

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And this went on for about a minute or two. And then Jesus was next to me. I don't know how

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I knew, but he was there. I remember him. I remember his attention. I remember everything, his concern.

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And then he stepped into me, moved into me. I had a physical sensation of my sin leaving and that guilt was gone.

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I was saved. That's what happened to me 50 years ago. We've got a break.

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Hold on. Be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned, folks. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276.

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Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Last segment of the hour. We'll get

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April back on here in a second when the producer reactivates her and then we'll get back on. And there we go.

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Thank you very much, April. You asked. Yes. There it is. OK. I do.

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Thank you for that. Thank you. I do have a quick question, though, is.

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Is doubt a normal. I don't even know how to say it.

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OK, I was saved years and years ago. But I still have that doubt and I don't know what

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I'm doubting because I know God's there. I know he's real. But I don't know why

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I doubt things. I mean, it's not it's not a constant doubt.

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You know, it'll just pop up here and there. And I don't want that.

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And I've heard I've heard some people say, oh, well, if you're saved, you would never doubt anything.

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And then I've heard people say that if you're saved, Satan is going to fight you as hard as he can.

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That's true. So. You know, I just. So I just don't know if that's normal or not.

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Even after the incredible experience that I had, I've had my doubts. And what

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I've learned over the years is. Not to trust my feelings. And our doubts are normal.

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We don't see him. We don't touch him. We don't hear his voice. Sometimes when people have doubts and they linger.

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Sometimes what God does is purifies your faith by putting you through a desert. So that you come out either believing or not believing.

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He purifies it. And that happened to me. And it took a few years.

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And because I have a thick skull and a hard heart. And it came down to one thing for me.

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Do I believe Jesus Christ was God in flesh who rose from the dead for three days? Yes. And after that,

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I don't have doubts anymore. But I can't exactly say that's exactly true. But those doubts are extremely weak.

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And I just go back to, but he rose. And I move forward. So you don't feel bad if you have doubts.

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I mean, in one sense you should, in another sense you should not. You know, of course you're supposed to believe. You're not supposed to have doubts. But the reality is, hey, we have doubts.

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And, you know, I just say, okay. Give them to God. Just talk to him about them.

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And say, Lord, my failures are evident. And I just choose to continue to believe in you.

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Beyond my ability to understand. And that's what I've done. And I think that's,

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I think it's simple. And it's easy. Doable. Yes.

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Not always exactly. You just need to say, though. But, you know. Well, I do thank you for sharing that story.

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But, you know, I was given, I believe I was given that experience. Because of what

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I'd be doing. And, you know, reading cult material.

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Debating atheists. Talking to Muslims. I am entrenched constantly.

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And have been for decades. In the filth of demonic doctrine.

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And I believe, my opinion, that God gave me that. So that I would have something

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I couldn't deny. And many times I've come to the place of, like, oh my goodness.

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But I go, wait a minute. But I remember him. And I'm able to push through it.

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So I believe he called me to this ministry from years past. And gave me what I needed for it.

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So I don't look to myself as special. No one should. But he equips us for what he wants us to do.

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And so, with you too. He's going to equip you. Because you're a child of God.

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And you're given spiritual gifts. And if you have these doubts. The enemy is coming against you.

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And what you need to do is give them to Jesus. Jesus, I'm praying to you, but I'm doubting.

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But I'm still praying. Help my unbelief. And you move forward.

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And you choose to believe. I don't know if you're married or not. But if you are, you probably understand this idea.

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That sometimes your husband is not very lovable. If you get my drift. And of course, with me,

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I always tell my wife. But anyway, that's another story. And so, if you get the idea that your husband is sometimes not very lovable.

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You still choose to love him anyway. Because that's what we do. And we can choose to faith in God.

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Faith in Christ. And you can say, Lord, for the best of my ability and understanding.

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I continue to choose to believe in you. And just, Lord, I believe. Help my unbelief.

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And that's all you can do. Alright? Okay. In fact, in Mark 9, 24.

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In 23, Jesus says. All things are possible to him who believes.

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Immediately, the boy's father cried out and said. I do believe. Help my unbelief.

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I love that. Mark 9, 24. I believe, but help my unbelief.

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That's us. Okay? Okay. Alright. Well, thank you so much.

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And don't be surprised. I have a lot more questions, but I don't know. That's okay. But I would say, don't be surprised if your life gets tough.

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Soon. Because it might be that God's purifying your faith.

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Because if you ask him to strengthen it, he may say. Okay, here it goes. Oh, it's been tough for a while now.

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Okay. Oh, yep.

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It's not. I don't want to say. Tough as in. I mean,

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I have a great family. I do. But things do get hard. And it feels like.

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It feels like I am just fighting and fighting and. I've even told people.

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I think I'm fighting literal demons. Because I've heard people, somebody close to me.

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Tell me that they're fighting demons. And I'm thinking, oh, it's for your speech. But I don't.

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I don't think so anymore. I think. He really is.

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And I think I am, too, because of that. I mean, I feel like I'm fighting for him.

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His family member. I mean, it's been it's been really tough last few years.

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Yeah. Well, here are some questions for you, because we can't get into this too much because we're almost at the end of the show and all of that.

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But have you got some lady friends you can who are good, godly women that you can talk to? Yes. Okay.

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Family. Oh, good. Will you talk to them, too? We do have a prayer ministry here, and Joanne is great at just talking and being caring and stuff like that.

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And so is Laura. I'm just a doofus guy with Asperger's.

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But. My heart just goes out to you.

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I mean, we could talk in details and stuff like that. And all

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I can say is through it, as hard as it may be, you need to choose to have faith in God.

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And you just hang on to that. And that's all you do. And it's a great glory to him and a work in you.

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And you might be surprised what comes out of it later. Okay. Okay.

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Yeah, I mean, we could talk more, but now it's not the best situation.

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Yeah. All right. I thank you.

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Sure. Email us and people pray. And there's some good people here.

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We talk with good counselors. All right. You know, I just need to talk, you know, and the email is on the farm website.

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Yeah. Yeah. Just info at car .org or prayer at car .org. Okay. And if you want to get a hold of me, it's doofus king at car .org.

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And then that gets right to me. Okay. Okay.

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Those are two easy ones to remember. Prayer. Okay. All right.

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God bless. Okay. Thank you. You too. You're welcome. Have a good weekend. All right.

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Oh, let's get to Jeremy from Kentucky. Jeremy, welcome. You're on the air. Jeremy.

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Jeremy. If I say different tones, maybe that'll work. Maybe not.

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Let's go to Cameron from Raleigh, North Carolina. Cameron, welcome. You're on the air.

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Hey, Matt. How you doing, man? Doing all right. Hanging in there, man. What do you got, buddy? Actually, I have heard one time before.

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I'm kind of fleshing out my end time views and making sense of Matthew 24 and 25 and trying to put him in context.

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I had a herd with Anna or I think it's near verse 40 where it talks about, you know, two, two in the field.

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One was snatched up and one was gone. That's the wicked. Who do you think is? Yeah. So you think the wicked are snatched up?

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Is that you place that within the tribulation? Well, first of all, you got to understand, you go to Matthew 24,

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Luke 17, read the parallels. And without a doubt, it's the ones who are wicked are the ones who are taken.

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And there's no way out of it. Once you read the context, go to Matthew 24, Luke 17. And it says, as it was the days of Noah, so shall it be the days of the coming of the son of man.

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For they were eating, they were drinking, they were giving in marriage until the day that Noah entered the ark and the flood came in.

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Matthew 24 says, took them all away. Luke 17 says the flood came and destroyed them all. So the ones who were taken are the ones who were destroyed.

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They were the wicked. And then Luke 17, they asked Jesus where they take. And he answers where the body is.

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The vultures are gathered. Now, we're at the end of the show. So I have to go through this quickly. You go to Matthew.

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And then, yeah, maybe 13 and look around verse 30 and read the parable a little before the laughter.

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It's a parable of the wheat and the tears. And Jesus says, let the angels come.

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And the first ones gathered in the wheat and the tears, the first ones gathered are the tears, the unbelievers to be burned.

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That's what it says. And then gather the wheat into the barn. Then you read down further.

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And he interprets that parable, the wheat and the tears. He describes who they are.

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And the harvest is by the angels at the end of the age. So the rapture happens at the end of the age.

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That's when the wicked are destroyed, along with when the good are taken. This is not common knowledge.

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It's simultaneous or concomitant. Yes. But notice what it says back in Matthew 24, 29.

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It says, but immediately after the tribulation of those days. Now, which tribulation?

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Some say the great tribulation, which is the last three and a half year of the seven. Some say it's a tribulation period, the seven years.

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Some say the first half. But anyway, we don't have time to get into it. The sun will be darkened. I have to hurry up because we've got like 15 seconds.

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He says, and the sky will be darkened, etc. He will send forth his angels with a great trumpet.

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They will gather together his elect with the four winds. After the tribulation is when the gathering occurs.

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Okay, dude, we're out of time. Call back on Monday. We will do it slowly at the beginning of the show.

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Okay. I'll show you more stuff. All right. Okay, buddy. Appreciate it. All right, man.

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God bless you. All right. Hey, folks. Sorry about that. We're out of time. Great topic. Love to talk about it, but we don't have time.