October 18, 2018 Show with Dr. Richard C. Gamble on “The Whole Counsel of God”

The Whole Counsel of God and the Seminary Background Behind It

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But today we have with us for the very first time, Dr. Richard C. Gamble. He received his PhD from the Universitat Basel or Basel. He is professor currently of systematic theology at the Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, having previously taught at Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando, Florida, Calvin College and Seminary and Westminster Theological Seminary.

And today we are discussing the topic, the whole counsel of God. And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Richard C. Gamble. And by the way, for our listeners' sake, if you hear me or when you hear me call our guest Rick, I am not being disrespectful to him.

He actually requested that I call him Rick. So don't think that I am presuming upon that familiarity with our guest today. The Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary is no stranger to the Iron Sharpens Iron Radio listening audience because we have had quite a number of guests who have some connection with that institution, whether they be on the faculty or having graduated from there.

But for the sake of our listeners who may be discovering that institution for the very first time ever, Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary, why don't you tell our listeners about that?

Quite a while. Accredited in the United States.

Yes. And a couple of the unique distinctives of the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America is that they are exclusive psalm singers and also exclusively sing acapella without musical instrumentation.

And as I told my guest yesterday, who is a graduate of RPTS, Mitch Tepper, who is the new missionary for Christian Witness to Israel, one of the most well-known of the Reformed outreaches to the Jews globally, I told him that I have become actually convinced on the acapella side of that, even though I do not use that as a test of fellowship by any stretch of the imagination.

I'm not an exclusive psalmist, but my friend John Price of Grace Baptist Church in Rochester, New York, wrote a phenomenal book called Old Light on New Worship, where he was defending the strictly acapella position in regard to worship.

And he actually really sealed that view tightly shut in my case. Well, should I say that in regard to me adopting it, I have come to agree with him. But that's not what we're talking about today. Before we go to the before we go to our theme today, the whole counsel of God, I would like you to, as we do normally with our first-time guests, I would like you to give an abbreviation, a summary of your personal salvation testimony, what kind of religious atmosphere you were raised in, if any, and what providential circumstances our Sovereign Lord rose up in your life that drew you to himself and saved.

You. Well, thank you for that, walking with him. What was the theological makeup of that Christian.

Home? Was your family Reformed, or was that something that you came to discover and embrace.

Later on? Yeah, my family background... Wow, so that is a mixture there. It is a mixed background,.

Yeah. So I'm assuming it was an evangelical Methodist church? It was, yeah. Great. And yes, and even today, I have met and have interviewed people, not only in some of the smaller Methodist denominations, but even in the mainline United Methodist Church, there are, there is a remnant of faithful Bible-believing Christians who still believe in the Gospel, who still believe in the inerrancy of the Scriptures, and I have interviewed some of them on this program.

The Lord is always gracious, isn't he? Amen. So what led you, how did you know that the Lord had a call upon your life to enter into the teaching field, and specifically, how did you become a professor at all of these different well-known institutions who are known for Reformed theology, their adherence to it, and of course, eventually.

Where you are now, the Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary of Pittsburgh. Philosophically minded, even as a teenager, I was wise to pursue a PhD as that had been in the plan, thinking that maybe to be a teacher, but it also brought me into teaching.

Praise God, and just so our listeners have this on hand to research the Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary after the program, or during a commercial break or something, and I plan to repeat this later, but the website is rpts .edu, rpts .edu, it's Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

The Scope and Structure of The Whole Counsel of God

Well, this is quite an undertaking. It almost seems comically arrogant to say we are going to discuss today the whole counsel of God. Yes, we're going to fit that into a two-hour program, and you fit it into, so far, two volumes of books.

The whole counsel of God we're going to be covering. Obviously, we're only going to scratch the surface of the whole counsel of God.

We can have at least two or three volumes.

Is the third volume out yet? Now, what made you think that this is something I've got to tackle, such a huge topic, such a broad topic, the whole counsel of God?

Well, the story goes back to when I started in 1980...

Is this the Norman Shepard controversy?

That's right. Just beginning my teaching, we used to open Bible on a sword, and the motto is...

Yes. Would you say that, from what you have heard of preaching, whether it be on television, radio, or what you have seen in print by the broader spectrum of very popular modern evangelicals, that this is a very vital element that is missing from much of what modern evangelicalism is preaching about and writing about, and that is the whole counsel of God?

They seem to isolate certain things that they enjoy, that makes them feel good, that they believe makes their audience or their readers feel good, and perhaps will help draw, numerically, greater numbers to follow them, but they are not really preaching and teaching and writing about the whole counsel of God.

Yes, Chris, that's much easier. Amen. And that is why both those who are Calvinists and those who are Arminian,.

And anything in between, or even outside those perimeters, they always have to remind themselves that they have to always keep in mind that the entirety of the inerrant Word of God is true, not that it's applied all equally in the New Covenant and so on.

There are, obviously, distinctions on some issues. But even the Calvinist can go into dangerously heretical hyper-Calvinism if he is not taking in consideration the whole counsel of God. And, of course, our Arminian brethren, we believe many of them are our true brothers in Christ, but they, we would say, right at the get-go, they're not recognizing the whole counsel of God.

Quote balance, tended to do our best.

Well, can you tell us at least what you have compiled in the first two volumes? By the way, this is a massive two-volume set. The combined pages of these two volumes is over a thousand pages, and I do want to give our listeners the good news that CVBBS .com, Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service, is offering this.

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CVBBS .com, CVBBS .com. Just wanted to make sure you folks knew that. But if you could, tell us what you have started to include in the series that you are in the process. You're still continuing to write, but you have the two volumes already completed in print.

What have you included in regard to the whole Council of God? And then we could go into some more of those specific areas of the whole Council of God in more detail. But to give our listeners a broad outline of what you include in those two volumes.

And then, of course, what you plan on including in future volumes. I don't know how many volumes you plan on. I know that there's at least a third.

In the works, but if you could. Volume one is in the pages of specials. You have an acorn. You start in Genesis, which is the acorn, and it grows into the Book of Revelation, called God's Bible, their unique theology, and the whole picture of the life.

Again, the same method is in volume one by John and the theology that's found there. Yes. Let me give our listeners our.

Email address if you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own for Dr. Richard C. Gamble on the whole Council of God. That leaves your spectrum of questions open pretty wide, open pretty wide, because if you're talking about the whole Council of God, it'd be pretty hard to miss the mark on asking a question that is relevant to the topic.

That's true. But if you'd like to ask a question, our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com, C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com. Please give us your first name, at least, your city and state, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA.

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He is the Professor of Systematic Theology at Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. We are discussing The Whole Council of God. Our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com.

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It seems that you can cross the border over into licentiousness on the one hand and antinomianism, or on the other end of the spectrum you can become a Judaizer or worse by crossing over into the other end of including too much of what God has commanded in the Old Testament.

How do we make sure that we are not crossing over to either of those heretical.

Opposite ends? We get into serious discussion of the divides we have. Yes, you can answer,.

You can take as long as you want to to answer, so you can break it up into as many parts as you.

Desire. Continuity and disconnect. If we go to the book of and it seems that Andy Stanley wants us to do that very thing as well. We talk about Christ Church documents. Yeah, that's an excellent.

Question. And of course, not all of those disagreements are collegial. They're not all amongst brethren in Christ who we can agree to disagree that some of these issues actually open up a chasm between eternal life and eternal condemnation.

I mean, you could be in a cult. Of course, people who are in cults don't recognize that they're in cults. But there could be a line that is crossed that is so significant and so damning, such as adding works to faith in order to be justified before God.

The Roman Catholic Church, I would include in that. Not that it is because they are dragging too much of the old covenant into the new. They are going upon traditions of men that are damning. The Bible never taught that our works cooperated in justifying us,.

Not even in the old covenant. That's right. So we have to go ahead. I'm sorry. Yes. Thank you, Susan Margaret. And guess what,.

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And we have a listener in Hoshton, Georgia, H-O-S-C-H-T-O-N,. Hoshton, I don't know how to pronounce that, Hoshton, probably. Hoshton, Georgia. Anthony in Hoshton, Georgia says, does this book, or should he have said more correctly, do these books, go into any detail on redemptive history where it points to the work of the Lord Jesus and the church as the new Exodus and or the new Israel?

Does it look, does it, does it look the thoughts, I guess he must have meant, does it look at the thoughts of Voss, and I'm assuming he means Gehurtus Voss, on these topics and interact with them? I would be shocked if you said no, especially in regard to the first part of the question.

I don't know if you're interacting with Gehurtus Voss, but as far as the redemptive history pointing to Christ,.

It would have to include that. Yes, Anthony. The question spent a large amount of time informative for me, long before I was born. Yeah, he was one of the early, maybe not one of the early,.

But he was on the faculty at Princeton, just about the same time of the fundamentalist modernist controversy, or at least towards the, the fundamentalist modernist controversy arose.

At least towards the latter end of his tenure there. That's correct. Second question was...

And you affirm that, of course, you cover the fact of redemptive history of even Christ being.

Appointed to in the old covenant scriptures. He is Isaiah, for example. Well, Anthony,.

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Biblical Theology, Systematic Theology, and the Whole Counsel of Scripture

All right. Let's see here. We have Kofi. Let's see. I've got to enlarge Kofi's question because the font is extremely small. Kofi from Medford, Oregon. And he says, Hi, Chris. And hi, Dr. Gamble. I just want to say I was loaned a copy of volume one of The Whole Council of God as a younger Bible teacher and was so blessed by the approach you took to the Old Testament.

My question relates to how younger men can develop their ability to teach these things in the local church, whether in preaching or in the Bible class setting. I'm not sure why there would be a uniqueness about younger men being taught these things, but perhaps you can think of a reason.

That would be a unique way to answer that question. And it's my hope that two volumes that have come from a Bible teacher, by reading these two volumes, the whole Bible, you'll be able to answer leading people's knowledge of the Scripture, and that's why I'm a Bible study leader.

Well, nobody has to loan it to him because, Kofi, you have also won the free set of volume one and volume two of The Whole Council of God by Dr. Richard C. Gamble. And please give us your full mailing address in Medford, Oregon, so that that can be shipped out to you by cvbbs .com, cvbbs .com.

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Paul wrote to the church at Galatia, For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. Hi, I'm Mark Lukens, Pastor of Providence Baptist Church.

We are a Reformed Baptist Church and we hold to the London Baptist Confession of Faith of 1689. We are in Norfolk, Massachusetts. We strive to reflect Paul's mindset to be much more concerned with how God views what we say and what we do than how men view these things.

That's not the best recipe for popularity, but since that wasn't the Apostle's priority, it must not be ours either. We believe, by God's grace, that we are called to demonstrate love and compassion to our fellow man, and to be vessels of Christ's mercy to a lost and hurting community around us, and to build up the body of Christ in truth and love.

If you live near Norfolk, Massachusetts, or plan to visit our area, please come and join us for worship and fellowship. You can call us at 508 -528 -5750. That's 508 -528 -5750. Or go to our website to email us, listen to past sermons, worship songs, or watch our TV program entitled, Resting in Grace.