The Radical Kamala Harris

Good morning. We are live now on the conversations that matter podcast I'm your host John Harris and we have with us once again,

Trevor Loudon. How you doing Trevor? I'm doing great John always good to catch up. Yeah, I love talking with you.

It's been too long It's been I think maybe two or three years since you're on the podcast. Yeah, probably close enough and that's

In the podcast as I see the podcast is going great. So congratulations. Thank you.

Thank you yeah, well, we I guess spent a lot of time together when enemies within the church was being promoted and you were part of that and And of course the movies out now and so we haven't seen as much of each other

But you're still doing the same work you were doing before which is tracking down powerful leaders on the left and their communist or Marxist connections and you have a book coming out and that's what we're gonna talk about called stealth

Kamala Harris's Communist roots and if people want to order that then go to Trevor Loudon loudon .com

and You said that it would be out. I believe on Saturday if they want to get it through Amazon They can get it there as well.

Well, it's it should be it's It's gonna go to Amazon any day.

Sometimes they take a couple of days to approve it But it's right on the verge of going on Amazon But people are currently ordering it through my website

And if you go through my website, you make me a little bit richer and you get it signed So so otherwise you go to Jeff You make

Jeff Bezos a little bit richer and you don't get it signed But either way get it because it will blow your mind.

It's this is the best This is most comprehensive book on Kamala Harris's life and the people around her and the pure communist connections

It's ever been done. What are your research methods if you don't mind me asking because to track this stuff down it just seems a

Difficult thing with Kamala Specifically not that I've tried to do a deep dive But she just has somewhat of a mysterious past it seems and there's not a lot of policy

Attached to her especially as the vice president. So like what do you look at to find out her?

Yeah. Well, that's a she's deliberately avoided Making stands so she couldn't be pigeonholed.

She look she's been preparing for this for her entire life She's a bit like Obama. She was a

Chosen candidate she's been nurtured for a long time. But what I do I do your basic online stuff

I do a lot of interviews with former communists security personnel FBI agents, etc

But the main way I get my stuff is You know communists being good atheists but students of history they love history as their

God and they want to be part of history and So when they are getting ready to die, you know

Every town's got a few communists when they're getting ready to pass on They gather all their works their books their membership cards their lists

Minutes of meetings letters to members of Congress Photographs they put them in boxes and they donate them to a university library

Because they think somebody in a hundred years time will come along and use this material

To write a wonderful biography of their great revolutionary life and this is their immortality so my wife and I and others in that team go to these libraries and We spend hundreds of hours sifting through papers photographing documents

Cross -referencing them on my key wiki website, etc to build up the picture

That's how I could write a 700 page book on Obama That's how I'm writing this book now on Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

A lot of it is archival research This the kind of thing that your average journalist either wouldn't know how to do or would be too lazy to do

It's very hard work to do that. I know from my my own history graduate degree

Oh, you're a historian you you've done so much of this Well, I I haven't got like I know how to do it

But you know, I've spent more time in online archives and that kind of thing to actually go I've I have seen it.

I know you know friends of mine who have done it but to go to the library and Just ask for boxes of material that have not been photocopied that no one's probably looked at.

Yeah, that's grueling work You have to say you even have to look at handwriting and figure out what they're saying.

It's not all allowed. I went through This is communist around Obama and I went she she had boxes of close typed handwriting like little spidery things just Boxes and boxes and boxes of letters and talk about tedious

But some of it is a lot easier than that, you know, they'll they'll have you know records of their trip to communist

Granada or you know minutes of a meetings where a Congressman attended and they they they did deals on how they could support him and exchange for policy, you know

Great example is there's a guy, you know What's his name he was

Obama's secretary Leon Panetta who was head of the CIA and Secretary of Defense under Obama You know there was a communist in North Northern California called

Hugh de Lacey and I would go through Hugh de Lacey's files and all these letters to Panetta and Panetta would send of military documents at The same time de

Lacey was corresponding with for two known Chinese agents and two known

Soviet agents while he was getting stuff from Panetta and Working closely with Panetta who became head of the

CIA and Secretary of Defense This is the kind of stuff you'll find if you look for it

Some of us don't want to find that stuff. Well, maybe not maybe not. Yeah Well, all right, well, that's but you know know the truth the truth

Yeah, you got to know the truth and and that's the thing It is it is an act of courage to to identify unpleasant truths

And that takes you know, that takes a certain amount of faith. You got it. You understand

This is a good thing to do. This is this is what what we're supposed to do and Just ignoring reality is not is

Not gonna help anybody, but I understand I had fully understand, you know, sometimes you do lie awake it but at night

Is it there's a burden with that knowledge sometimes? Yeah. Well, I really appreciate you doing it when

I don't know of anyone else who is doing that kind of thing I Want to start off talking about Kamala this way

There's someone I very much respect who was served in the military and they see

Kamala Harris as the vice president and This is an office to be respected and that to call her radical to Attach the a negative pejorative like she's a

Marxist. I would assume also that these are disrespectful kinds of things and my response was that you know

The the thing is though those words actually have meanings and Kamala Harris doesn't seem to want to be pinned down as you said on Policy, so how else are we gonna know how she'll govern when she's in the presidency?

We can look at what she's done as a vice president, but it doesn't seem like it's much they've kept her in a back closet

Yeah, yeah, so So yeah, go ahead. Go ahead Well, you know you can respect the office, but that doesn't mean everybody's ever held that it's worthy of that respect

You know Richard Nixon certainly disgraced the office of the presidency did he not There's been you know, the of you know, people respect the papacy, but there's been some pretty

Corrupt Pope said they're not at certain times. You've got to tell the truth

You know Kamala Harris isn't as a and a usurper. That's why I call the book stealth

Because her whole career has been stealthily Underhandedly Covertly getting ourselves in positions of power that she could not do if she was honest about her true positions

She is a she is a political criminal. I say that with it with no no compunction whatsoever and for your friend

I understand he he's a military guy. He wants to respect his leadership. She might be his commander -in -chief

But he should respect the oath his oath to the Constitution more that he is supposed to guard the

Republic from all enemies foreign and domestic and she is Absolutely a domestic enemy of the

Constitution. So that is the oath he should be putting before his regard of the office and being discerning and Deciding that that woman is not fit for that office

Well, let's start at the beginning if you don't mind Trevor Kamala Harris her I don't know much about her roots

Except she keeps saying she was born into a middle -class family That's what she's a middle class a middle -class communist family.

Yes. Yes, and she had her mother was Indian right or that's nice.

I shot Shyamala Gopalan from Tamil Nadu in southern India Yep, and her father

Was I guess where was he from from Jamaica? He was an economist a black guy from of mixed -race, but a black guy from Jamaica, you know with some white heritage as you know, many

Jamaicans are so Shyamala Gopalan is a

Marxist. She was a contributor to the book Black Marxism she was regarded

She was she was one of the people who helped was credited with help putting it together by Cedric Robinson I think his name was and So she's a

Marxist her father Don Harris was a famous Marxist economist not not a

Unknown, he wrote books on Marxism. He wrote articles on Marxism He was recruited to Stanford University Economics department as an affirmative action

Marxist because they didn't have enough Marxist in the department at the time So they specifically recruited him as a

Marxist You know to to balance out the ticket so to speak So they're both open

Marxists both of them Well, Don was more open Shyamala was a bit more on the lowdown, but they were both members of the

Afro -american Association this was a very radical group in Berkeley in the early 60s

It spawned the Black Panther Party. The Black Panther Party came out of this group. They were openly third -world communist

They supported Ho Chi Minh Che Guevara Fidel Castro Mao Tse Tung This was a communist group and people need to understand the

Black Panthers were not black nationalists They were pro North Korean pro Chinese pro

Cuban Maoists. That was a Maoist organization Interestingly the head of that organization

Donald Warden Changed his name to Khalid al -mansour and converted to Islam and worked as an agent for a

Saudi prince for some Years, and he was the man who got young a young Barack Obama into Harvard Because there was a program on at the time

From the Saudis to get young radicals of color into senior positions in the u .s

Government who would be pro -palestine who would who would support that that side of things?

So Kamala both parents were Marxist She used to go to a Marxist social club every every

Thursday night in grade school, you know, it was called the rainbow The rainbow something the rainbow club the rainbow something.

Sorry. I'm just a little bit tired right now I've been writing about this book for months and they would have or they would have

Maoist poets their Marxist poets quiz nights Concerts it was a

Marxist social club And this was Kamala every Thursday night from the age of four or five years old

You know most as you know John most young Americans if they're gonna become communist, they'll do it in college

That's when they they just they switch She was communist from the cradle. She has never been anything but a communist

She was born a communist a Maoist specifically a

Maoist communist Well, you see these videos with her and Howie Mandel or Who's that mayor or that she she

People say she slept with Willie Brown Willie Brown. Right, right. So you see these like paparazzi type tapes of those guys and she seems like she's a

You know a pretty lady on their arm kind of thing like like she doesn't have a political thought she's just there to be escort them and Make them look good on the red carpet and that kind of thing

And I think that's what most people think is that she was this this beautiful young lady

Who then had political aspirations and she comes from this working -class family

But of course you're saying she was inculcated at a very young age into the Marxism.

Oh, absolutely Communism so so where did her political aspirations start and and why do we have this image of her with Howie Mandel and Willie Brown?

You was that all part of it. No, it's not as Mondale. It was Mondale Mondale Williams.

I think you're referring Oh, is it? Williams Montel Williams, I see how I'm yeah.

Yeah. She was a briefly dating Montel Williams but okay the thing with Everything she has done has been geared towards a political career just like Barack Obama.

She is the female Barack Obama She was nurtured and and and set up for big things from a very very early age

This is what the communist movement does it picks young? People of color and Helps to educate them and and provides jobs for them on the way through Now the thing that everybody misses with Willie Brown the

Willie Browns a communist, you know He's always been he was elected to his first position in the

California State Legislature By the W E Dubois Club, which was the youth wing of the

Communist Party USA He worked with the Communist Party USA into the early 2000s he was still sponsoring

Communist Party events in San Francisco as late as 2002 this is seven years after his affair with Kamala Harris, but he was also interestingly

In the 60s. He was very active in and Communist Party operations They were campaigning against segregated housing in San Francisco, for instance

This was a common Communist Party activity around the country and he was doing that with a young woman called

Diane Goldman otherwise known as Dianne Feinstein Dianne Feinstein becomes a senator from California as The old

Communist Party starts to fade in the early 2000s Well, he switches his allegiance more to the

Chinese so Willie Brown and and Dianne Feinstein were with China's best friends in the

Bay Area You know Dianne Feinstein Got China into the

World Trade Organization She used to stay with who Jin Tao the the the mayor of Shanghai who became the president of China in his in his

House in Shanghai, even though she served as chairman of the

Senate Intelligence Committee Meanwhile, she has a Chinese spy on her staff for 20 years and when that's exposed

Russell low That's exposed. She says he was my driver. He was her office manager

He was getting Defense Department documents off across his desk and he was liaising regularly with the

Chinese consul in San Francisco This is the mallure That Kamala Harris comes from this

Chinese Maoist this Maoist and Chinese consulate connected clique that basically runs

San Francisco This is this is where she comes from Her whole life has been

Maoist involved with the Chinese Communist Party. So she

She was with Okay, so let me ask you this then because this is the common Republican Talking point that the

Democrats hate to hear and they always say it's a smear tactic And but the Republicans will say she just slept her way to the top

That's what she did and that's why we can't trust her or one of the reasons Well, I think there's a cheap shot, you know, like I She had an affair with Willie Brown they say well he was a married man

Split from his wife for nine years his wife Blanche. He had an affair, but she is a climber

She does everything Strategically and I'm sure with help, you know

They say you need to go here you need to connect up with Willie Brown and she and he gave her a couple of Jobs, you know these sort of once a month meeting jobs

We're on some obscure board where you get $400 ,000 over three years for attending one meeting a month.

So he helped her economically He helped introduce her to the circles. She needed to know in San Francisco but the key person that really

Helped Kamala Harris get where she is. Now is a man called Stephen Phillips Another Bay Area guy a friend of Willie Brown's by the way and You know you take the questions where you want

But we have to include Steve Phillips in here at some point because he is the man that made her Well, let's let's do it now

Steve Phillips. So she Has these political aspirations? obviously, she doesn't go from a working -class family quote -unquote to being a

DA and then Where she is now, so how does this happen?

Well this you go back a little well Willie Brown Endorsed the young Steve Phillips for the

San Francisco school board near in the 90s. So Steve Phillips Willie Brown Kamala Harris were all quite tight in the early 90s, but this goes back

You were a lot of your viewers will may have heard of or remember the rainbow coalition of the 1980s

It was Jesse Jackson the great scams the reverend Jesse Jackson who ran twice for president on the

Democratic Party ticket And he in the second one particularly in 1988. He got

Seconds in the Democratic primary. He was got seven million votes Which was regarded as pretty impressive because he was regarded as a total, you know lunatic even then

But the rainbow coalition see this was the idea he got this idea from the Black Panthers of Chicago Rainbow coalition means you get the progressive whites progressive blacks progressive

Browns the Latinos progressive Asians for the yellow stripe gays for the lavender stripe greens for the environmental stripe reds for the

Native American stripe all the colors of the rainbow you get the progressive whites and the progressive

Progressives of color together to form a majority and And that rainbow coalition was completely run by pro -chinese

Communists from the Communist Workers Party League of Revolutionary Struggle line of March Freedom Road socialist organization

It was a Maoist operation run by pro -chinese communists, so Steve Phillips was part of this.

He was a black law student at Stanford University He was Jesse Jackson's West Coast organizer to election cycles in a row

He was very close to Jesse Jackson Involved with the League of Revolutionary Struggle the rainbow coalition idea came from the

League of Revolutionary Struggle and the Black Panthers That's where it came from. And so Steve Phillips leaves

Stanford and like most of his comrades He goes into the Democratic Party He may also marries one of the richest families in California the

Sandler family of San Francisco the Golden West savings and loan fortune

Fifth largest SNL in the country. They sold it to Wachovia There's so many subprime mortgages that it sent

Wachovia broke, but they got They got a two billion dollar profit from that and they put that much of it 1 .3

billion of it into the progressive movement and Steve Phillips who married their daughter say Susan Sandler Got to hand that money out and he also joined the

Democracy Alliance helped to found it Which is a big network of left -wing billionaires

Tom Steyer Norman Lear George Soros that You have to donate at least two hundred thousand dollars a year just to belong to it and so Steve Phillips Provided the ideological direction to this group.

He married the money with the Maoism effectively so Steve Phillips 2008 got ten million dollars together and They did big voter registration drives in black and Latino communities in 17 southern states

And that is what got Barack Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary

Plus Susan Sandler his wife was Barack Obama's first big donor

Barack Obama then went and ran twice on the rainbow coalition strategy

Progressive whites progressive blacks Latinos get all the minorities together to form a majority

Because when Jesse Jackson ran Minorities were 19 % of the population by the time

Obama ran that were well over 30 and now they're pushing 40 so Steve Phillips is this mega rich wealthy guy

He was also a very close friend of Maya Harris at Stanford University She was a student radical with him

He was the one who got Tony West to a husband the job Under Eric Holder in the

Justice Department and under an Obama's Justice Department number three Steve Phillips has put

Hundreds of put millions of dollars into the progressive movement. He set up Center for American Progress He set up ProPublica.

I'm sure you've heard of them He also had two people on his board that ran on the rainbow coalition strategy he had

Stacey Abrams from Georgia He had Andrew Gillum from Florida both ran on the rainbow coalition strategy

Both of them and Stacey Abrams still thinks she's governor of Georgia to this day But it was

Steve Phillips Who got the money together to make Kamala Harris da in San Francisco It was

Steve Phillips and Susan Sandler that funded Kamala Harris to become Attorney General from California It was

Steve Phillips that got the money together to make her the US Senate and it was

Steve Phillips Who got her to run basically back to it running for president and still is backing her so at the same time

The Maoists and the Maoists is still on the ground Working with the

Chinese consulate are running voter registration Organizations in all the key swing states.

So what what Steve Phillips has done? he's married the big money of the

Democracy Alliance or us and Stire and all these guys with this grassroots pro -china

Maoist Network That is what is made Kamala Harris, that's her support base.

That's completely where she comes from Okay I'm trying to think what direction do

Take this in so we know that she's go ahead No, ask me about Virginia at some point because this illustrates the point but you carry on with this question, please

Well, I was I just think of these things as we go. Yeah, Virginia we could go to Virginia. I just Was thinking on a personal level though This is all really good information that needs to be out there

My question still is though Kamala herself Is I mean she obviously has policy ideas of her own and She's not just the product

I would think of all of these out external influences maybe she is

I Yeah, well look she's she's not dumb, you know, she's well above average intelligence

But she is a she is not a great deep thinker She's just a doctrinaire

Marxist who is smart enough to hide it But even that you know, she talks about the joy in her campaign all the time.

Well that comes from Mao Chairman chairman Mao's works brought joy to the people her slogan

We're not going back comes from the Communist Party USA her other slogan When we fight we win that comes out of the

Maoist movement So she's dog whistling all the time to her base

Just like Obama did with this in five days. We will Trump fundamentally transform this nation

Well, we all think oh, that's nice But every Marxist every Marxist understand what she means and the the unburdened we shall be unburdened

Yeah, that comes from that comes directly from Marx We will not be unburdened by the history the past history.

We're going to create a new man She's dog whistling all the time but but but her

I she she is a manufactured candidate and She will not be in charge of policy if she's president this will be a continuation of Obama and Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett and Jesus Ping who

I think of the real rulers of America right now. I Want to ask you about that?

In a moment. I know we get we have some other things, but if people have questions, I should probably say look Put them into the comment section right now or during the course of the podcast

We're almost half an hour in and I will ask Trevor. Here's one from Mary G She says I'm wondering what your guest thinks about the communist groups who are very vocal about hating

Kamala So, I don't know about this. Are there groups that don't like her? Well, I'll put it this way this

I'll explain Recently Newsweek asked the Communist Party USA chairman Joe Sims if Kamala Harris was a communist and of course, he says no, what would you expect he would say?

It's like asking a mafia Don are you in the mafia? Oh, no, there's no such thing

There's a mafia look. There's two lefts in America to communist to broad communist factions in America There's the affection around Liberation Road the

Maoist Communist Party USA, which supports China committees of correspondence for democracy and socialism and and Democratic Socialists of America The first three of those groups are all pro -china and they all support

Kamala Harris, right? Then you have other groups workers World Party Socialist alternative who say no we don't she's we think she's a corporate sellout

You know, this is that they did the same under Obama Obama's complete communist

You'd have certain communist groups who would condemn him because it's a little bit like, you know You know in Christianity, there's many denominations

Some denominations will condemn every other denomination, right? You're not telling you anything new here.

Am I right? Right. This is some denominations of communism

Because she won't come out and declare herself as a communist They will condemn her but the real real communist

Communist Party USA Liberation of the powerful communists They are backing her to the hills with all of their organizations and calling her

That they're saying to her Angela Davis just recently the famous commies just recently wrote

Electing Kamala Harris will open up new spaces for struggle You know these they've all those main communist organizations have endorsed her

But because there are these little communist sects out there who hate every other communist sect

Because she's not part of their sect They will condemn her you got to understand the communist movement isn't a block just like Christianity isn't a block there's hundreds of denominations

They're all united by a basic beliefs But they all have different ideas and the same with the communist movement and so you'll get certain communists absolutely criticizing

Kamala Harris, but the real communists the ones who are supported by China they are in Fully behind Kamala Harris fully behind it.

Yeah, the dynamic you're describing exists in all human Organizations or movements

I suppose because every movement every Religion it's there's always factions and every faction thinks they're the only right one

Yeah, yeah, and there's there's purity spiral people on the right to who you think that if you don't go out and say everything that Would get you canceled, you know, you're a sellout or something.

Yeah, so All right. Well, we do a look at Trump. There's a lot a lot of publicans who hate.

Oh, yeah Well, actually, I have a question Drew Smith's asks right now could

Trump be a plant? So I'll I'll let you maybe take that rabbit show right now because I have listeners who won't vote for him because he's not

Pro -life enough or yeah, and I 100 % get that Look, this is what

I say Yeah Yeah It could be that you know that this the world there was rushed that has been Russian Attempts to get inside Trump's circle and he's got pro -russian people around him now

But I you know, I don't think he is a plant Because his whole life, you know, his father was very conservative yet people around him like Roy Cohen He's very consistently taking a strong line against China And it's been pretty tough against the bad guys when he's been in office

Yes, he could be a plant Ronald Reagan could have been a plant who knows you can never rule

You can never confirm a negative not no, I'm saying I think Ronald Reagan was but no,

I don't think he's a plant No And I just want to address this with with people saying the event won't vote for Trump because he's not conservative enough well, because he backtracked on abortion and he's been weak on marijuana and I Absolutely on board with all of that, you know,

I fully understand that but this is that He is applying for secular job

If my daughter was sick in hospital, and there's only one doctor who could save her

I wouldn't impose a purity in a faith purity test on that doctor that doctor was a

Hindu or an atheist or a Jew or a Socialist or a

Roman Catholic or a Mormon. I wouldn't care I want my daughter fixed and I think that is the correct approach

Now, I think the people who say this and I'm not stupid I'm hanging around people all day who have a lot of issues with Trump and I have some issues believe me

But look, this is this is what will happen if Kamala is elected People say we're not gonna vote for Trump because we will come back with a real

Christian candidate in 2028 And we'll we'll be more pure and we'll do this and we'll do that do a little bit of math

There are 30 million illegal immigrants in this country right now minimum minimum

Kamala Harris will give them all citizenship and voting rights Just like Hillary Clinton promised to do that will give the

Democrats more than 20 million new voters Easily more than 20 million new voters

You as most presidential elections are won or lost by less than 6 million votes

You tell me what that does to your chances in 2028 then

She will also flood the country with more of them plus refugees from the

Middle East because she is a Black Lives Matter pro -Palestinian candidate 100 % Plus she will pack the

Supreme Court with at least four new left -wing Justices basically communists so you can never defeat her in the

Supreme Court again Plus she will weaponize she'll pass the

Equality Act Which will put gay rights before Christian rights so every

Christian church in the country that will not do a gay marriage or accept gay pastors or accept gay youth

Pastors will get a five million dollar lawsuit from the Department of Justice plus She will go after the guns because she will already have the

Supreme Court Plus she'll use the weapon organs of the state to go after her enemies

Just like the Democrats did against Trump, but now it's going to be Christian nationalists.

What is Christian nationalists? That's a patriotic Christian who believes in America and borders and God.

That's a Christian nationalist This is being set up. This is a communist revolution people

This is we are one bad election away from having this country taken permanently from our grasp

How do you fight back? When they have 30 20 of 30 million new voters overnight plus they will draft many of them into the army

Who will be then used to put down any little rebellions that might crop up plus just think about the fact that we're 34 trillion dollars in debt now

President Trump if he's in power He will open up the energy sector

He will lower taxes and get the private economy booming again, and then he would negotiate with our creditors

Kamala Harris will tax unrealized capital gains

Meaning if you buy a house for 300, she's gonna give you $25 ,000 to buy a house, right?

Oh, that's nice Okay, but but you buy a house for say $300 ,000 right but in five years time it's worth $450 ,000 every year you're gonna be taxed for that $150 ,000 profit even though it's not realized

You're gonna have to find that money every year because that's a profit every year you make a profit on your house

You'll be taxed for that What do you think that's going to do to the middle class? What do you think that's going to do, you know, look people need to understand and I'll let you look

It don't believe me read my book and then get back to me people need to understand. This is a

Marxist revolution She is just as bad as Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro and Tim Walz is just the same and as I write in my other books house on American security risk senators

We got approximately 40 Marxist senators serving right now Ossoff Warnock and Georgia Patti Murray in You know and in Washington State Chris Murphy in Connecticut all these people plus we got about hundred

Marxist Congress members Plus almost all of Biden's current cabinet members from Judy Julie.

Sue labor Miguel Cardona education Deb Haaland and Interior are all

Marxists all of them You know, we're in a revolution. They need one more election

Legalized 30 million illegals imposed capital gains taxes Shut down the energy industry and you tell me how you're gonna organize opposition to that in 2028

Is she worse than Biden as far as because Biden's already pushing all these things? Yeah, but is she gonna accelerate them like I've wondered at times

I guess if Biden is just an opportunist who isn't really much of an ideologue, but just kind of he's gonna go with whatever but yeah

Well Biden was put in power by pro -soviet operatives But Biden and Biden was very much in bed with the

Soviet Union when he was a senator Very deeply in bed, but because he was in Delaware, which was then a

Republican state He played the moderate game on the on the in the domestically and this is what a lot of these people do

Tim Walz right was in a very conservative district of southern Minnesota where they all go pheasant hunting every every week during the season where they're all

Conservatives and he was pro -gun pro -gun pro -gun soon as he became the governor anti -gun anti -gun total

No more moderation Joe Biden was never a moderate, but he is an opportunist

Joe Biden was working the interests of Moscow since the early 70s Iran since the late 70s and China since at least 2001 but he is still not the ideologue that Kamala Harris's Kamala Harris if she's given the opportunity will finish the job that Barack Obama started because she believes in it

She absolutely believes in it. I was trying to remember the name of She was a

I think a senator from New York years ago Blonde hair Kirsten Gillibrand.

Yeah, that was it. Thank you. Thank you Yeah, I don't know why I couldn't remember her name But I was it was a little before I guess when

I was that interested in politics I was always kind of interested but it was I couldn't vote when she ascended but she was also

I remember big gun rights Because she was an upstate

New York She was upstate New York You had to be in an upstate exactly and this I was actually gonna bring her up next because this is a perfect example

She was regarded as a moderate Democrat when she would held a seat in upstate

New York where people go hunting Where it was a you know a fairly evenly split district, but as soon as she became senator from New York Anti -gun liberalist, you know total socialist

Absolutely. See see this is the thing this people need to understand Look Kamala Harris has got a more left -wing voting record than Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

Okay, but this is what you really need to understand Don't look at what they say

Don't even look at how they vote look at the district they represent and the people they have around them

Because like Joe Biden was in Delaware it was it was a Republic He was the first Democrat to win statewide in Delaware ever

So so is he gonna come out all crazy liberal in a state like that and expect to get reelected, you know

So that is why you've got people like Tim Walz who have a moderate record even a moderate voting record and then conservative record on some issues

But as soon as they get statewide power That's when the true agenda comes they're nuts

I mean Tim Walz is he's a lunatic he's oh, yeah, he's way out there Hardcore communist

But you know Kamala Harris is the Black Lives Matter candidate if you think

Joe Biden was a radical If you think Barack Obama was a bit radical You ain't seen nothing yet because she's gonna go for broke and the big ace in the hole is all of those illegal immigrants

That's what will protect her from any backlash You know

Yeah, it's I mean there's so many things to talk about and yeah, let's we're 42 minutes in Let's just keep going if that's okay.

Yeah, I'm good I do want to ask you about Virginia because you footnoted that so why don't we?

Why don't we go there and then we'll we'll come back to maybe talking about the election and yeah How how things are gonna go in November, but what did you want to say about Virginia specific?

Well, I just want to give an example because you lived there, right? I did. Yeah Yeah, Virginia used to be a really really red southern state, right?

Yeah, it was rock -solid red, you know a part of the old Confederacy. It was never going to change in 2007 the

Liberation Road communist group the pro -chinese Maoists who gave us Black Lives Matter who started

Black Lives Matter They set up a voter registration group in Northern Virginia called

New Virginia Majority There were orange t -shirts like acorn many of them were ex -acorn people and they went out in about three years

They signed up 300 ,000 minority voters at Northern Virginia for the Democratic Party They helped

Obama win Virginia in 2008. They take credit for it and rightly so Then they work with Terry McAuliffe the governor of Virginia to personally sign pardons for 200 ,000

Virginia felons so they could vote too and they went out and aggressively signed up tens of thousands of those people

So that 500 ,000 voting base is what they used to flip Virginia from red to blue now the reason they were so So efficient and so successful as they were using

GIS computerized maps They had every single precinct in Virginia mapped out

They could tell you the income levels the ethnicities which neighborhoods had were mainly

Iranian which neighborhoods were Filipino Whatever so they could send the right volunteers into the right neighborhoods to maximize

To get out the vote. Mm -hmm. Now those maps were made and still are being made on contract by a

Liberation Road communist called Steve McClure Who works out of the

Geography Department of Wuhan University, China? Oh great So he's so so this network has is the reason

Carolina North Carolina has a Democrat governor It is the reason that Georgia has two

Marxist senators Ossoff and Warnock It is the reason why Arizona has two

Democrat senators They are using the rainbow coalition strategy through the southern states

That this is a new Democratic mantra and it's Steve Phillips lays us out in this book

Brown is the new white New York Times bestseller lays us all out You know

Democrats forget about the middle don't worry about chasing these middle voters anymore go into the south run progressive candidates of color and Mobilize the black and Latino and college kid base in the south

Run the rainbow coalition strategy all through the southern states and they know they only have to flip

North Carolina permanently blue Bring Georgia into the blue camp in Arizona and get one or two more southern states

Then the Republicans can never elect another president This is the strategy.

Yeah, this is Andrew Gillum. This is Stacey Abrams this is this is also part of the strategy to take evangelical

Christians and introduce Progressive ID talking points so that they aren't a solid

Republican brought block anymore Absolutely. This is all about and this is why the Southern Baptists been so infiltrated

Because the South is the bedrock of conservative Christianity and the

Republican Party But it also has big black and Latino minorities So if you can shift that white conservative base a little bit to the left

You reach a tipping point where those southern states can be conquered and Georgia right on that tipping point

North Carolina is not far off You know, Virginia has already gone over the tipping point

Arizona is right on the tipping point, but Tennessee isn't that far away

Texas is not that far away either and if it wasn't for Ron DeSantis, Florida would have already been there

So this is the straight this is a Chinese these groups are all connected to the

Chinese consulate in San Francisco They all work with a group called the seed the vote which was started by the

Chinese Progressive Association In San Francisco, which is the propaganda arm of the

Chinese consulate in San Francisco They also started up a group called Asians for black lives, which basically ran black lives matter for the

Chinese consulate so We have got Chinese influence voter registration

Organizations in every key swing state working the black and Latino communities

If anybody's seen Catherine Engelbrecht's movie 2000 mules She talked about how nonprofits were using black lives matter activists to stuff

Ballots in key swing states. Okay. Well, I found those same organizations by following The she did it through cell phone data

I did it through following the networks out of the Chinese consulate Same groups in Arizona they had lucha which knocked on which made 1 .8

million phone calls in 2020 and knocked on 800 ,000 doors and Pennsylvania they had

Pennsylvania stands up in Wisconsin they had black leaders organizing communities block in Georgia They had the

New Georgia project Stacey Abrams group and meant in Michigan. They had Detroit action

All of the key states had major Chinese backed voter registration organizations on the ground in the big cities

Working the black and Latino and and inner city communities to swing those states to Biden Harris This is very methodical

But you think if you were China and you wanted to bring America down, which you know, then we'll know they do

Would you want to risk a multi -billion dollar trade war or a multi -trillion dollar shooting war before you are ready

Would you rather spend a few billion dollars buying American politicians and using the communist networks?

You already have on the ground to influence key elections. What what would you do? Yeah You know the far less cost far less risk

I've got Alex Tom of the Chinese Progressive Association on tape saying our job is to protect

China by bringing down President Trump This is what they say.

This is what anybody who thinks I'm not I'm gonna sit this election out Just understand you're handing the country to China by doing so and I understand your moral qualms

But we are supposed to restrain evil are we not and the way to restrain evil in our time right now is to Make sure the

Democrats do not get permanent power in this country And how do you do that pray tell without voting for President Trump in this election?

We have some comments. I thought this was interesting By the way, 80 % of these illegal immigrants have been sent to areas that didn't vote for Biden.

This is quite intentional I've noticed when I've been traveling. I'm sure you travel I go to Heartland areas,

Boise, Idaho The middle of nowhere in Wisconsin and they complain about the influx of illegal migrants to these areas traffic housing projects going up that contractors have to take it the contractor else they're gonna be outbid and They have money seemingly out of nowhere.

They have thousands of dollars to live on every month and These are areas that you know,

Boise, Idaho, why in the world it's a deep well Why what is somebody from Gabon end up in Boise, Idaho?

You know, I know Because it's that look if you don't believe anything

I've said just do a little bit of math Why would a government open its borders to over 10 million illegals and actually fly in people?

they send planes to Overseas destinations to fly in people if there wasn't a political purpose behind it.

Yeah What why would they do that? Because there's a big a big electoral risk in this

Brianna Hill says I live in a red part of a blue state and we had an influx of immigrants In fact, there is an apartment complex listed online is no longer operating, but it's housing a mass amount right now

The corner around the corner for me. Yeah, why would they send them to Los Angeles? Los Angeles and Portland when they already have those places

Send them to Boise. Send them to Kansas City. Send them to Iowa Send them to they look at all the districts that could be flipped with a few thousand votes and that's where they're sending these people if Trump gets in I Don't I haven't heard him articulate a plan passed.

We're gonna have mass deportations But sure, I would think with all this election interference

And you've so clearly laid this out from foreign governments. Nonetheless, and the Democrats, of course accusing him of this are

Telling on themselves. I think this is what they've been doing. Yeah, he needs to do something about it

Like there has to be a massive crackdown on this if the country's is going to continue or a

Field state at that point. I Write in my book. I talk about a group called a coalition of these groups

Their goal is to mobilize 40 million new voters for the Democratic Party Yeah, it's mind -boggling.

They say there's a hundred million Americans who don't vote We need to get 40 % of those to the polls for the Democrats. This is industrial scale stuff

So what has to happen? That's why I've written a book so people understand the depth of this movement so so people around Trump can read this and understand what they're dealing with because he superficially understands and You know, he's gonna purge a lot of people from the

Civil Service and I think a lot of good things will happen But you're right. There has to be sit there has to be look.

I believe the president has to set up a new intelligence agency Not drawn from CIA or FBI or anything like this

But a super vetted new intelligence agency people from special forces and police departments

Superpatriots whose job it is to root out foreign influence in America That's what they got to do.

And they also got to go and do Rico lawsuits in the Federal Rico lawsuits and the big inner -city voter fraud operations because you cannot clean up Los Angeles from California, you can't clean up Chicago from Illinois That's got to be federal and you got to go in there

Catch low -level people and get them to flip on those above them offer them amnesty

But this new Intel this is what I'll do if I Trump I would set up a new intelligence agency

They're not declare an amnesty Not on illegals. You got three months every foreign operative every traitor

Everybody who's taken foreign money or is working for a foreign entity or globalist institution you've got three months to either leave the country permanently never come back or three months to register with a new intelligence agency and Spill your guts tell us every single thing

You know who you paid off who paid you off what the operations are and if you are truthful and honest you'll get amnesty from prosecution

You can live your life your punishment is between you and God you can make your peace with the

American people you can apologize for your crimes But you will live out your life

If you don't come forward in three months, we'll have so much evidence That we can put you in the slammer for 40 years

I think you would only I think you would have to probably jail about 50 vote fraudsters in America and a couple of hundred traitors to shut down the whole problem

Because you imagine three months, you know every foreign network Iranian Chinese North Korean Cuban, whatever

Every say dirty Iranian businessman bribing a senator He wouldn't know if the senator was wearing a wire and had taken the deal and the senator wouldn't know if the

Iranian Businessman had taken the deal was wearing a wire their whole networks would melt down Though their trust would be destroyed.

This is how you take down organized crime You get low -level informants you offer them amnesty if they will rat out their bosses

This is how they took down murder Inc in the 1930s with Thomas Dewey This is how they went after the

Gambino's etc. You get the low -level guys You give them a job out in Boise, Idaho if they will testify

You know and and this is how you got it. This is how we got to clean out the massive foreign infiltration in this country that is electoral it is

Business community. It's the academic community. It's Hollywood. It's Definitely Wall Street a lot of people get into treason and it not inadvertently

But they are weak and they get in a business deal. They shouldn't have got in they cut a few corners here they get compromised they found in bed with somebody they shouldn't have been in bed with and They get invaded into these networks and they there's no way out because they'll go to jail.

So they just keep on going Well, give them a way out given the way to make their peace with God and the

American people live out your life Be a good person No, but those who are just we it just will not quit

They deserve to go to jail for a very long time and I think if if that happened people would finally understand how deep the treason is how deep the penetration is and They would support the security measures going forward to make sure this doesn't happen again

But do you know you you don't have to have any background check to serve on the House Intelligence Committee or the

Intel? House Homeland Security Committee or the House Armed Services Committee none

You have to get a background check to be a to serve in the intelligence community, but not on the committee

You know, Benny Thompson the head of the Homeland Security Committee who did the January the 6th?

Operation the biggest threat to American democracy and since the Civil War Hey, he used to support the

Republic of New Africa That was a Black Panther Communist group that wanted to split five southern states away from America to set up a black

Republic in the south He worked with the Communist Party USA Communist Workers Party and Democratic Socialists of America and he went to Cuba in 2000 had a meeting with Fidel Castro and arranged for scholarships for a hundred and forty young American Communist radicals to do seven -year medical scholarships in Cuba and now they're all over the country stirring up revolution

That's Benny Thompson the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee Great.

I write about right about him in my book House on Americans, you know You can see some of my books over the back there security risk senators house on America Yeah, someone someone commented that they couldn't take me seriously because I don't have a library background.

So You have quite a few books back there, yeah, I've never read them.

Well, I have you so Yeah, but I think I think John what I want to say to people is

I fully understand Reservations about voting for someone like Trump who you know has a bit of a mixed background to put it mildly

Yeah, but you know look King David wasn't an angel Was he?

You know, yeah, yeah, I think of Trump in the Yeah, I mean people say Samson sometimes which

I think is probably a closer approximation But yeah, this is I mean with the problems you're describing.

Here's the thing like I From California originally, that's where my my parents were born and raised.

Well, my mom was born in Ohio But she was raised in California. So they both of them grew up there, right and It was a paradise and so I I still have this memory even in the 90s it wasn't too bad but it you know, the cancer had already metastasized at that point and Now, I don't even want to go back there.

Sometimes. It's just it's disgusting I mean not not in the outlying areas, but in the outlying areas, it's expensive.

It's it's just not It'll never be The California that they grew up in or the one that I remember from when

I was young Yeah, and that's all of America now in my mind I guess that's what we're talking about all of America is just gonna be

California the Republicans have no chance. Yeah, it's communist at that point Well, it was see how why can

California flipped is because in 1996 the communists got behind They got rid of b1

Bob Dornan. He was Santa Ana area the very hardcore Christian conservative and Put in What's -her -name

Loretta Sanchez that was the communists did that and they were using illegal immigrants to do it that's how they did it and they ran the rainbow coalition strategy in California by bringing millions of illegals across the border and Signing up illegal legals to vote.

That's how they flip, California So this is an example, this is a deliberate program you look at what's happened happened to Pennsylvania now,

Philadelphia You know, you look what's happened to Detroit that started in the 60s when the when they had the communist inspired

Detroit riots then they elected the communist mayor Coleman Young who just drove business out of the city and collapsed the tax base the this the seriously

The goal is a communist America because every communist and globalist around the world

Understands that the only impediment to their goals is a free constitutional

Christian America That's the only thing stopping it right now.

And so what I believe is this, you know President Trump is not a perfect man, but he is deep courage

And he is a proven record of getting things right Economically and standing up to America's enemies of on board.

The next president is going to be facing off against Putin rocket boy jeez, you're paying and the mullahs and The Mexican problems.

Do you think they're going to respect Kamala Harris for one for one second? Do you think they can be scared of Kamala Harris and Tim Walz?

We had four years of relative peace under Trump Because he's so darn Unpredictable that he terrified

America's enemies and they knew he would strike back if they provoked us We've had four years of Biden and how's the world gone in that time?

Yeah, if Kamala Harris is in the US dollar will be sunk We'll have interest rates at 25 % in this country

There'll be unrealized capital gains taxes The flood across the border will increase and the citizens will be legalized they'll be drafted into the army

Christianity will be persecuted and conservatives and patriots will be chased down hunted down like the

January the six people are now if Anybody thinks I'm exaggerating Please please, you know, let me know but I so so if a

Christian says to me I understand the consequences of That America will be destroyed if Kamala Harris is elected

But my conscience does not allow me to vote for Donald Trump and I'm gonna stick by my conscience

Even if that means possibly the destruction of America, I would respect that point of view

It's can at least it's morally consistent But somebody to say well, I heard somebody say the other day

Well, these Christians are gonna vote for Trump because they're worried about the gas prices might get a little bit higher

No, they're worried about the destruction of their country and their children's futures

Yeah, look look to me To me it is a moral duty to stand against evil.

You know, you look at Nazi Germany When when Hitler ran there was no good opposition to him

You know, there was no great Christian candidate standing against Hitler The Christians could have stopped

Hitler if they'd voted for the lesser parties and Hitler only one with 33 % of the vote

But the Christians didn't unite they didn't stop Hitler and then they didn't stand against Hitler when he did get elected

You know, they became good Nazi Christians. They put swastikas in their churches and that led to a disaster that killed tens of millions of people and Who had to sort it out it was

American and Canadian Christian boys who picked up guns and put on uniforms and Charged into Nazi machine guns on the beaches of Normandy You know, we are in a similar situation today.

We can stand together and stop The destruction of our country and give this country a chance to recover or we can stand on our false moral purity and Say we are above this fray

We will not vote for This individual because our conscience cannot be violated.

We will let our children die We will let our country be destroyed. We will let Christianity be persecuted in this land when it could have been stopped

But our consciences will be pure Well, I wonder how I wonder how that'll go on Judgment Day Yeah, I think

What you're getting at I've had to think about this quite a bit actually, you know And everybody should think about this a friend of mine

Ben Crenshaw. I did a great article at American Reformer on this topic and he talks about Conscience and how this is it?

Well, I don't want to get into the whole thing so over an hour, but this is a bit deceptive to I You know boil this all down to a conscience thing.

This is a political vote. This is You you you are having an opportunity to impact the direction that your country is going to go in Yes And in the real world and in the real tangible lives of your children and not just your children

But my children and so when someone says and I have friends who they say this is my conscience

I'm not gonna do it and some of that. I they're not these aren't my friends But I have seen people almost gleeful that God's gonna judge

America Which I don't you're insane man, like my kids are gonna suffer for your your decision here, too

So I am I'm developing a lot less patience for it 2016 I had a little more maybe because of my own naivety, but I thought okay

I can see the whole we're gonna come back in four years with a better candidate. Let's purify the party That's not an option that doesn't exist

We you don't have a country when you're talking about 40 million illegal aliens There's no way to come back and I saw what happened to California.

So yeah So, yeah, I I'm getting I am getting to the point where I'm kind of like You know,

I spare me the conscience talk. I I understand I get it I've been really tolerant of those things because I've been there in 2016.

I was kind of there But I'm to the point now where I'm like, I'm looking at my daughter I think maybe being a father is something to do with this too.

I'm just like 100 % I'm just like, you know what your purity of your conscience on this.

I Understand that's you think that you're doing the right thing, but This is not the same kind of decision as It was for eight years ago.

It's not the kind of decision It is when you're trying to put a pastor into your church yeah, this is a decision for whether or not we suicide ourselves as a country and And To not to abstain from voting or to vote for a third party to me is not a political decision

You don't call it a political decision It's you're sitting out the election and when you sit out the election

You're not engaged in the moral battle that actually exists in my opinion. Yeah Anyway, sorry,

I you stirred up a something in me, but well, I think that's 100 % look look if your little you know, your little child was drowning in the river and you

Couldn't jump and you had a broken league couldn't jump in a big hulking biker walks down the road and he's smoking dope and he's

Covered in tattoos and he's got a lengthy prison record. Would you beg that man to jump in and save your door?

Absolutely Absolutely, you would because that will be the moral thing to do we are we're choosing a secular position here and it is it is

Christians fault that there isn't a great Christian candidate if Christians had been

Not exactly, you know voting 50 % for the last 10 year You know a quarter of Christians vote in this country.

So you wonder why there is no great Christian candidate So the whole country has to suffer now because you weren't active and promoting your values for long enough and deep enough

Yeah, you know, this is the thing. This is a secular position and You know,

I think it's a no -brainer. You always vote. This isn't voting for the lesser of two evils You're voting against pure evil here for someone who's gonna do a lot of good for the country

Maybe some bad things maybe some mediocre things But you're voting for someone who's gonna at least help your children's future as opposed to someone who's going to destroy it

I don't think there's any more I have no moral qualms about advocating people voting for Trump and I've been one of his biggest critics in the past Same you know, well,

I would say if someone's listening and they have they say that's my conscience that I can't do it Please keep it to yourself

Don't go out there and advocate everyone else needs to you know, but at least understand what the consequences

Yes, you know if you understand the consequences and you still do it,

I respect you But don't make that decision when you don't understand the consequences.

That's a false decision. Yeah. Yeah There's a lot of naivety there's a lot of people without political positions living in red areas who think that they can weather the next four years and the judgment it's the

Catastrophe that is coming. I just don't know if people have thought through and once they experience it and get a taste for it

I think they'll feel different but well there but then it's too late as Late to turn it back. It's discernment.

You've got to be discerning. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it would identify evil. Yeah You're not supposed to be naive and Pollyanna She's supposed to be discerning you're supposed to understand evil

You're supposed to stand up to evil and be able to identify evil Yeah You know if your friend in the military cannot identify the fact that this potential commander -in -chief is consumed by evil

It's really on him Yeah. Yeah, I think of what you know Reagan I think famously said freedoms one generation away from extinction

But I think of Roger Scruton and what he said about how good things take a long time to develop and they can be destroyed very quickly and that's what we're living through it took

Generations to get to where we are with the blessings We enjoy in the United States and it only takes a few bad leaders to bring it all down with some very bad decisions and so the question is do we want to honor our fathers as the

Fifth Commandment says and Continue for the America as much as we can where we live that we enjoyed or are we just going to wash it away?

I have boys Honor your father's on your father. We're free because your fathers and grandfathers and great -grandfathers

Fought battles to make us free a great sacrifice and your grandmothers and great -grandmothers

Worked 40 nowadays and factories and hospitals and farms and kept the kids going to school

And stayed up till 2 o 'clock in the morning writing letters to their boyfriends and husbands and brothers overseas

Is it not our moral obligation to preserve that which they gave us? Is that not honoring your father?

Yeah, that's a good point Okay, I have one final question. I a lot of people are lighting it up with questions, but we're we're an hour and 11 minutes

So I I just want to ask you this though for my own curiosity because you've done so much research on communism

And we've been talking I guess we haven't talked as much about Kamala Harris as I thought we would but we've given her you've talked about her communist background and You know the connections that she has there and how the communists

These foreign countries are infiltrating our elections and other things. My question is this Someone made a comment to me the other day and I thought this is really shrewd.

They said, you know a lot of the more right -wing Christian nationalists like people who actually claim the term right not a so someone who actually is advocating for some kind of Christian nationalism

Christian nationalists or you know other right -wing dissident right -wing kind of groups that are

Let's just say if they were a if they were gonna give their name and you knew where their address was

They'd be fired from their job. So they operate in this manner online where they have to have pseudonyms and You don't know who these people are there it's avatars a lot of the time and there's groups

Places like Twitter or gab where you have a lot of people like this and he said to me, you know if I were

Trying to infiltrate a group. That would be the easiest group to infiltrate because all I would have to do I wouldn't even need to provide my name nothing about me not not not anything to vet all

I'd have to do is go out there and post a bunch of Offensive, you know offensive to the left or just offensive stuff that You you could even post, you know, very racially insensitive stuff, whatever, but you end up Building some credibility that you're willing to take risks except you're not really taking a huge risk if it's not your name, right?

Yeah, there's really no there's hardly any risk if it's untraceable and And you could infiltrate these groups you could get into private chat groups

You could end up with in chat groups with very influential people. I've I'll just Full disclosure.

I mean I've been members in the past of chat groups that have Everyone from you know people that I you know,

I'm not even exactly sure What their background is to more influential people, but they're all kind of connected online share each other's articles and these kinds of things

And when this person said that it's not like I hadn't thought about this before But it really it bothered me in ways it hadn't because I thought you know, that's so true and I hear

Constantly I just talked to a young gentleman in the military at a prestigious Academy the other day

And he said they're teaching us in the military that it's the Christian nationalists that are the big threat. They're the terrorists

They're the ones we should focus on if the government's pouring all these resources and this is my question.

I Do you have evidence at all that they are Infiltrating right -wing groups trying to goad them into absolutely

Taking positions that would be bad for them or you just to associate with things that will hurt the movement that kind of thing

Oh look hips it where you saw the case with Gretchen Whitmer, you know That's so -called plot to kidnap right now, you know, that was

FBI agents organized that they got into a group Got some naive people to go along with it

This is a very common technique, you know to to plant agent provocateurs into groups to to egg on Extremism or get people to say racist statements or things that can be used to discredit them or even blackmail them in the future

Look if you're in a group and you see it see people calling for violence or you know

Racial statements that get out of it because you know that your every keystroke you're doing is being recorded

For potential future use against you they if the Kamala Harris gets in you will see a crackdown on Christian nationalism

You will see that you will see people round up. They've already put the leader of the Oath Keepers in jail for a long period of time

You know, the Proud Boys is a precursor of what is to come You know Proud Boys is reasonably extreme, but they they they were doing nothing that deserved major jail sentences

But see now Catholics observe the you know, really a strictly observant Catholics are a threat now

So you're absolutely that this is coming The Christian nationalism is going to be heavily persecuted if Kamala Harris gets in and that means any

Christian who believes in the inerrancy of the Bible or who believes in things like the

Constitution or radical concepts like a border or wants to homeschool their kids

All of those things or stands or doesn't want to accept the homosexual agenda. These people will be the main threat

So you'd be very careful about who you associate with in these groups I would only associate in groups where I know who the people are.

Yeah, you know Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm to that I am in that thinking at this point

I'm just wondering if any of the left -wing publications since you read all the Marxist communist publications if they talk about Infiltrating these groups subversively at all.

Well, I wouldn't say it openly but I know they do I've known that for even back in my

New Zealand days, but they do that But this is now what the FBI is teaching

This is what there's been papers written by Homeland Security about this

Nowadays they used to focus on communists and Islamic radicals. I don't even talk about them anymore

You know this see what we're experiencing is a revolution like Czechoslovakia in 1948

You know Most of Eastern Europe was conquered by the Red Army but check us that and communism was imposed from above Czechoslovakia wasn't it stayed democratic and You know and having a parliamentary democracy to a 1948, but they had an election in 1946 the communists won two cabinet positions and They they got security and they got police and they used those to shut down Their enemies go after their enemies blackmail their enemies and by 1948 they had a communist government

That is that is the model the Czechoslovakia in 1948 is a model for America get control of the security services

FBI Justice Department CIA Etc and turn them from attacking our enemies to attacking this internal threat, which is

Christian nationalism That's that's where we're heading. If this if this election goes the wrong way

Yeah, ordinary decent Americans that have probably different generations who served in the military who go to church

Who have involved in their schools and their communities, but they believe in the Constitution.

They believe in God They believe in borders. They believe in difference reason right wrong.

They do not want their kids subjected to a homosexual agenda or Transgenderism whatever they are the new threat nothing everybody watching this podcast

Will acknowledge the truth of that? Yeah, and and you see you you would see what happens if Kamala Harris gets in it gets in you see what happens to the

Christian nationalist narrative. Oh I'd have no doubt. Yeah, I appreciate you taking that question because that's

I've been thinking about that off and on and I've seen among like I said a lot of pseudonymous accounts and stuff, but people with really no political influence at all, but people who want to Almost sometimes even make it a purity test that you need to say radical things

And yeah, yeah, if you don't, you know, we're gonna say you're a fake or you know there's a purity spiral element to this and It's a it's a just an odd For any group wanting to gain power like the

Marxists do it. They're very smart about it. It seems like they They go in subversively they take advantage of obviously the liberals who welcome them in and And then once they're in there, they start shutting the doors behind them and only letting their people in No, we saw that in enemies within church, you know, that's right

How do you take over a Bible college you get two or three people in influential positions then you never hire any more conservatives

Yeah, they just hire your friends. You only hire they die out. They retire. They yeah. Yeah, and that's what's happened all over the place.

So Anyway, yeah, thanks. Thanks for that. People want to get the book. They can go to Trevor Loudon comm

You can get it now or at least pre -order it get a signed copy there. That's what I'd recommend That's the way to support

Trevor, I'm sure you get more than Jeff Bezos does I do I do and it's very welcome

But I like signing books for people too. But yeah, it'll be it'll be on Amazon, but that's

Just a few days away with when I don't even know exactly the day that will be but it's coming soon

Yeah, the book is stealth Kamala Harris's communist roots and where are you gonna be next

Trevor if people want to see on the road? Well, I'm going to be this week I'm going to be in Southern, California Got two meetings there one

Too many so in California. I've got a tour of Colorado in early October.

That will be well advertised I'm gonna be up in Pennsylvania twice twice through October I don't normally

I haven't been putting my my dates on my website because Yeah, I starting to get antifa types trying to get venue shut down, you know, that's a bit of a problem

They'll phone up hotels and say we're gonna protest if you let this man speak here, you know so But I may just start doing that this month

Because it's such an important time, but I'm gonna be California Kansas City Yeah, I Just wake up in the morning and I have to look at the phone by the bed see what city

I'm in half the time okay, well, I appreciate you doing that and It's a lot.

It's grueling but that word needs to get out there. So so thank you and Yeah, so I just recommend people

Go to the website get the book and whenever Trevor puts the schedule there go see him on the road and give him some encouragement