June 4, 2020 Show with Thomas Parr on “Backdrop for a Glorious Gospel: The Covenant of Works According to William Strong”

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Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania Lake City, Florida and the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth who are listening via live streaming at iron sharpens iron Radio .com. This is Chris Arnzen your host of iron sharpens iron radio wishing you all a happy Thursday on this fourth day of June 2020 and I am thrilled to have as a first-time guest today Thomas Parr pastor of Cornerstone Baptist Church and Anacortes Washington which is a Reformed Baptist congregation.

He's also contributing editor to the Lexham Context commentary and author of the volume on the gospel of Mark in that series today. We are going to be addressing his book backdrop for a glorious gospel the covenant of works according to William Strong and It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to iron sharpens iron radio pastor Thomas Parr.

It's great to be with you Chris.

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Your personal testimony of salvation because whenever we have a first-time guest on this show we like them to give a summary of their salvation story including the religious atmosphere they were raised in if any.

And what. Sovereign. What our sovereign Lord raised up in? Their lives in regard to matters of Providence. That drew my guests to Christ and saved them. But before we do that tell our listeners about Cornerstone Baptist Church in Anacortes, Washington.

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Well now let's move on to a summary of your salvation testimony.

Sure raised in this community in Christ and his lot of evil. I met my master once I read John.

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Amen. So When did you come to realize that you have been given a call by God to Join the ministry. Yeah.

Yes, I've heard of him. I don't know him though. Yeah pastor of praise God. Well, tell us.

About the main figure in this Conversation today other than the the main theme that triumphs overall is of course the glorious gospel. But tell us about William Strong about The era that he lived in and why he is such an important figure to you that you would draw Wisdom from for a theme like this from him specifically.

Yeah, that's a great question. I have that's Reformation Heritage books for our listeners who aren't familiar with it. And yet we. Well, you know.

The Covenant of Works as the Backdrop for the Gospel

The Covenant of Works is A phrase that Brings confusion to a lot of people even pastors that I know who are outside of the Reformed faith. They misunderstand what people even would mean by that and Some have even dared to slander Reformed people as to teach that.

There was a time when people were saved through obedience and good works, obviously that that could never be the case since Since the fall in the garden man has been totally depraved. So there's no way that we could ever do anything to please God even present to him a faith That would save us without first being regenerate Amen, because of our depravity, but please explain this.

Peculiar sounding phrase. The Covenant of Works. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely doing. And then the Westminster. Well.

The the phrase that you used in the title of your book. Yeah that is really an eye-catching phrase. The Backdrop for a glorious gospel is this Covenant of Works according to William Strong, of course.

Why is that? Why is it? Why is the Covenant of Works a backdrop for a glorious gospel?

Sure, that's great part of the air that condemned with Adam. We're born into this world. We're born to die and there's there I guess if you want to put it now, don't you know?

You're not supposed to bring stuff like that up. You're never gonna grow a church if you're talking about wrath and hell and sin. What's wrong with you? Haven't you watched Joel Osteen for Brian out loud?

Well that that is a very common thought or belief or stance by many people in Modern evangelicalism and I'm not even talking Exclusively about the more extreme heretics like Joel Osteen and his followers.

I'm talking about just your average Christian who's conservative Who loves the Bible? Who perhaps is not even living and in a moral way that we know of? They may be living in a very godly way in an obedient way, but people are convinced that That we should not be be mentioning this from the pulpit or from our evangelism.

I can remember years ago when I was still working for WMCA radio as an advertising agent and One of my clients was my own church Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Long Island in Merrick, New York before I that was my church before I moved to, Pennsylvania and I took an expert an excerpt on A sermon on hell from one of my pastors.

That was a really profound and powerful Segment and we were airing that for quite a while and We were getting a ton of Phone calls people saying you don't hear people speak like that anymore. I gotta come to visit your church because I never hear anybody on the radio or TV Really addressing this issue.

It was amazing how how many people responded so positively to something that is supposed to be Keeping people away from church.

Yeah, and I think when you when you when you open your tablet out of the gospel, we've got we have got to yeah and.

It diminishes when you remove. When you remove the bad news from the good news it removes or diminishes or dulls or Really just Makes impotent. What good news it really is. Because if you if you don't if you don't know the horrible consequences to Rejecting the good news.

You're really never going to appreciate the good news at all.

Yes, so true, man. That's so true that you have one of the is. At the most glory they don't realize or maybe they aren't saved and they simply have never come under well.

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That is no and.

This is one thing that's very mind-boggling. I can't understand other than the depravity of man being at the root of this but It still is strange even Knowing that this is coming from a depraved heart and mind.

Why do people in Adam? prefer the first covenant the covenant of Works.

One case that would make it a stranger or perhaps harder to make that point.

Do people who are lost Who are professing Christians? Who believe in the opposite of works righteousness? which is a Works righteousness is a damning heresy, but on the opposite end of the spectrum is Those that believe in Licentiousness Not barring you from heaven they believe they are against the Lordship the necessity of embracing the Lordship of Christ there they militate against The necessity of repentance and they they they militate against a Good tree bearing good fruit that if we are truly justified by faith alone Even though we are justified by grace through faith alone We will do good works.

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Why do people in that category of Christianity, and I'm not saying that every single person who is Wrong theologically on this. I'm not saying that there are many people at Dallas Theological Seminary who on paper believe these things or at least I don't know if how popular that is today there, but They were at one time the headquarters of Militating against Lordship salvation, but but for those who are lost who believe that why would they be in a category of actually? Preferring the first covenant.

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