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Welcome to another installment of Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Roseborough. I'm your servant in Jesus Christ.

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This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the word of God.

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And I pray that you all had a Merry Christmas and that you also will have a Happy New Year.

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I'm a little bit under the weather, but that's okay. What we will do today is we're gonna answer your questions.

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And so that's the whole idea of Ask a Pirate is that you all get to ask me questions and I have to answer them.

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So let's kind of do this. I've already kind of favorited a couple of questions that came up and let's do this.

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All right. So the first question, which seems kind of like a softball question, if you ask me,

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I'm just saying, is from, let me see if I can actually add to the broadcast.

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Yeah, let me put it over here. There we go. Question, and that is, with regards to meat that has been sacrificed to idols, can you comment on serving devil's food cake at a church potluck?

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I would say, go with your conscience on that. If you wanna have devil's food cake, then for sure, do so if you can do so without scandalizing people and having that.

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Although I think devil's food cake is fantastic, but that's a whole other story. And unfortunately named food is the best way

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I can put it. All right, Tommy Phillips. Tommy Phillips, I'm gonna note here. Let's see if I can make this bigger.

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Not sure if my question went through. If it did, just remember that I'm asking the question rhetorically in order to debunk someone who basically believes in purgatory.

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I just want some biblical help. Okay, so Tommy, here's the issue.

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And that is, is that your question didn't go through. And so I need you to repost it so that I can grab that real quick.

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So I will be on the lookout for that particular question as it relates to purgatory.

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And we'll actually talk about that here. But the next question then, let's see here.

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Okay, this one's a more technical one. All right, here we go. All right, so would like to hear about the 70 weeks of Daniel.

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Jesus Christ fulfilled it is my understanding. So good question,

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Leslie. And here's what we're gonna do. I'm going, let me share my desktop real quick here.

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And there, there, that's that. And let's see here.

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I'm going to, let's pull up Logos, okay? Now, I, so I normally study and read from Logos.

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From time to time, I'll actually teach using Logos. But I find that Ecamm and Logos don't always get along.

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So Don asked the question, where do you send the questions? Put them right here in the chat. That's the place to put them, okay.

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So let me show you a resource. So let's do this. I'm gonna go to the book of Daniel.

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And I am going to go to, is it chapter nine? Yeah, I think it's chapter nine.

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And Gabriel's answer, the 70 weeks. Okay, so let me show you a resource that I think is super helpful.

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And in my commentaries, I have quite an extensive Logos library.

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And let's see here. That's the word Bible commentary. I want the

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Concordia, there we go. All right, so in something called the

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Concordia commentary series on the book of Daniel, this is probably one of the better commentaries

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I've seen regarding Daniel. And so let's do this.

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I'm gonna scroll down to the 70 weeks. And these are the Hebrew notes, commentary,

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Gabriel explains the future of Jerusalem. Let's see here. We got the 70 weeks.

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There's a handy dandy, how do I put this? Let's see here.

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There we go. A handy dandy chart that explains kind of the traditional interpretation of the 70 weeks.

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And I would note that many charismatic and Pentecostal folk have a problem.

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And that is that they think there's still one week or part of a week left in Daniel's 70 weeks.

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But let's take a look at how the church is historically understood. So this is the traditional messianic interpretation regarding the 70 weeks.

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And so let me, you'll note it's the text for it is starts in verse 24 of chapter nine of Daniel.

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And let's take a look at this. 70 weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for iniquity, to bring an everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and profit.

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I would note that part of the understanding of all of this is that prophecy gets sealed at the end of the 70 weeks, which kind of begs the question, when does that occur?

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Okay, to anoint a most holy place, know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build

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Jerusalem to the coming out of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. And then for 62 weeks, it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.

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And after the 62 weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.

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Its end shall come with a flood. And to the end, there shall be war. Desolations are decreed, okay?

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And so there's lots of details as it relates to the 70 weeks. And of course, when I moved it, the graphic disappeared.

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Let me see if I can roll that back up here. So here's the traditional interpretation of it.

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The first seven weeks go from the time of Cyrus's decree to basically rebuild the wall, rebuild the temple in Jerusalem, to the time of Nehemiah.

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And so that's your 400, so that's your first seven weeks. And you know, these are not literal weeks.

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If they were literal weeks, they would have been over shortly after Cyrus's decree. These are kind of like the numbers in the book of Revelation.

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They are symbolic of a time period. And then you've got, then from there you have 62 weeks, which will be from Nehemiah all the way to the birth of Christ.

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In the middle of that, you have Antiochus, kind of the type and shadow of the Antichrist himself, desecrating the temple in 167

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AD. And then you have one whole week, which is going to include

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Jesus's birth, Jesus's crucifixion, the destruction of the temple in 70

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AD, and then the completion of the 70 weeks, coming almost middle of the second century with Hadrian, the emperor

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Hadrian, conquering Jerusalem. And if you're not familiar with that, I know a lot of Christians are very familiar with Titus destroying the temple in 70

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AD, but Rome did not make a complete end of Judea at the time of the destruction of the temple.

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It was the emperor Hadrian, because even after the temple was destroyed, the

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Jews in Judea continued to be a problem for the Roman empire. And so Hadrian basically 135 -ish said enough is enough, sent a conquering force into Judea.

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They destroyed Judea, and then literally evicted the Jews out of Judea, and then changed the name of Judea to Syria -Palestinia.

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That was the actual name that the Roman emperor Hadrian put on the place. And so historically, the church has understood that the 70 weeks are completed.

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And I would note that back in the day, when I was learning Christian apologetics, one of the apologetic arguments was that if Jesus isn't the

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Messiah, then ain't nobody can be the Messiah due to the fact that the 70 weeks are completed.

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There's no room for the Messiah. Jesus has to have come during the 70 weeks. And that was a very strong argument used by many back in the day.

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But I would note that the kind of the charismatic, Pentecostal way of interpreting this somehow leaves it so there's one week still left.

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And as a result of it, it's created all kinds of chaos. But if you wanted to read more on this, again,

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I would strongly recommend the Concordia Commentary on the Book of Daniel. You can find it at cph .org.

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You can buy it at logos .com. It's just a fantastic resource. Okay, now let me roll back up through here and see if I can find

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Tommy's question because I didn't see it because it got lost in translation somewhere.

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Let's see here. I'm not seeing it. All right, so,

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Tommy, I'm not, let's see here. Let me see. Can I search?

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Yeah, I can, Tommy, T -O -M -M -Y. Okay, so, okay. Okay, I found the thing.

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Tommy Phillips says, your $10 was accepted as a token to get your question out of purgatory.

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When the coin in the coffer clings, your question from Purgatory Springs. I see what you were doing there.

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I see what you're doing there. If it did, just remember that I'm asking the question rhetorically in order to debunk someone who basically believes in purgatory.

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I just want some biblical help. Okay, so let's talk about purgatory, shall we? And let's do this.

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Number one, there are no biblical texts to teach it. None whatsoever.

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And let me see if I can find the text that they like to go to. I think it's 1 Corinthians 5.

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Let's see here. No, it's not there. Maybe it's second. Hang on a second here.

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I am doing this from memory. Hang on a second.

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Let me find the text. It has to do with fire. Hang on a second. Let's just do this.

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We'll go with fire, and we're going to limit our text to the epistles. And let's see if...

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Ah, there we go. 1 Corinthians 3. That's the one, 1 Cor 3. Okay. Divisions in the church according to the grace.

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Okay, all right. Let's see here.

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Yeah, this is the text. Okay. So this is the passage that Roman Catholics twist to try to smuggle purgatory in here.

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The issue is, is it doesn't work. And then I would note that not even the Apocrypha teaches purgatory.

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I'm just saying. So the Apostle Paul is talking about divisions in the church.

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And so he says, but I, brothers, I could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ, I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it.

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And even now you're not ready, for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way?

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For when one says, I follow Paul, and another, I follow Paulus, are you not being merely human?

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And then Paul says, what is a Paulus? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed as the

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Lord assigned to each. I planted, a Paulus watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only

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God who gives the growth. He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor.

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For we are God's fellow workers. You are God's field, God's building. So note the context here.

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He's number one, basically saying, Paul and a Paulus are nobody. God, you know, one plants, another waters.

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God is the one who brings the increase. And then watch where he goes from here. According to the grace of God given to me like a skilled master builder,

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I laid a foundation, someone else is building upon it. So then let each one care, take care about how he builds on it.

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What's the foundation? Foundation is Christ, right? Christ is the foundation, the foundation of the apostles and the prophets and Jesus Christ is the cornerstone.

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For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now, if anyone builds on the foundation, so no, we're talking about people who are doing what?

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Ministry work, okay? This isn't talking about the general public, okay? No, he was talking about a

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Paulus and Paul. A Paulus, many believe was the pastor of the church in Corinth when all these weird things were happening there.

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Paul is the apostle that planted that church, right? So now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, and straw, how does one do that?

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By preaching the word, okay? Each one's work will become manifest for the day will disclose it because it will be revealed by fire and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.

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Now you'll note in purgatory, in the Roman Catholic doctrine of purgatory, people are being burned up, okay?

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And having the dross burned out of them. But here their work is being tested, right?

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And so I like to think of this passage as kind of like the, you'll note that people who go into the pastoral office, people who do preaching and teaching and do ministry in God's work, the scripture says they have a stricter judgment.

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I think this may be dealing with that, okay? Each one's work will become manifest for the day, will disclose it because it will be revealed by fire, fire will test what sort of work each one has done.

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If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward.

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If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

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I would note there's plenty of Christian out there who's done Christian ministry and built their ministry with wood, hay and stubble.

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I would note that the mega churches are known for that kind of stuff, right? So do you not know that you are

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God's temple and God's spirit dwells in you? So you'll note that this is oftentimes the text that people go to regarding purgatory, but it doesn't teach purgatory.

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It teaches that somebody's work is tested on the day of judgment. What building material did they do their ministry with?

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And did they do it with gold, precious stones and things like this, with the word of God preaching Christ?

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Or did they cut corners and build it with cheap building materials and the whole thing gets burned up?

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That's the idea, but the person is still saved at the end of it. This is not a purgatory text.

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This is a text regarding somebody's work being tested, their ministry work being tested by Christ at the very end.

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That's the idea behind it. But I would note, let me see if I can find this. Twinkling. So there's a verse

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I'm looking for and it's in 1 Corinthians 15. And I would note, this is the text that I just think completely destroys purgatory in any of its forms.

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Number one, in order for it to be a doctrine, it has to be clearly taught in scripture. It isn't, okay?

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So Paul in 1 Corinthians 15 talks about the resurrection of the dead and talks about how we will be raised not with bodies that are perishable and mortal, but with immortal and imperishable bodies.

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So here's what he says in 1 Corinthians 15. So it is with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable.

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What is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor. It's raised in glory. It is sown in weakness.

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It is raised in power. It is sown a natural body. It is raised a spiritual body.

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If there's a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, the first man, Adam, became a living being.

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The last Adam became a life -giving spirit, but it is not the spiritual that is first, but the natural and then the spiritual.

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The first man was from the earth, a man of dust. The second man is from heaven, as was the man of dust.

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So are those who are of the dust and as is the man of heaven, so are also those who are of heaven.

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Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. So watch what he says here.

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So I tell you this, brothers, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

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We need the resurrection because our current flesh and blood is corrupted by sin. That's the point that he's making.

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So then he says this, behold, I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep. And by this, he means not every

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Christian's gonna die, but we shall all be changed. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet, for the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed, for this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.

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And when the perishable puts on the imperishable and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, death is swallowed up in victory.

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O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting? So you note that the scriptures clearly teach that Christians who are alive at the return of Christ, when he returns in glory to judge the living and the dead, they will be changed in the twinkling of an eye.

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And so no purgatory for them. Yeah, that's kind of the point. And then

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I would note the whole idea of purgatory denies the sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice.

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At its core, it's a denial that Christ's death on the cross is sufficient for the forgiveness of all of our sins.

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But the scripture is very clear that Christ died for all of our sins and canceled the entire record of death that stood against us.

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Colossians is, I think the place I would go to kind of make that the most clear. Let's see here.

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Colossians 2 says, in him, in Christ, the whole fullness of the deity dwells bodily. You have been filled in him who is the head and the rule of all authority.

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In him also you were circumcised with the circumcision made without hands by the putting off the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with him in baptism in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God who raised him from the dead and you who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh.

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God has made you alive together with him having forgiven us. And here's the important word. Are you ready?

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All, all of our trespasses, Christ died on the cross for every single one of your sins from the sin that you inherited from Adam to the sin that you commit as you pass from this life into the next one.

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You know, as you breathe your last, all of your sin is covered by Christ.

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So note, it says, God has made you alive together with Christ having forgiven us all of our trespasses by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands.

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That's the entirety of the record of debt. Every single sin that would have been recorded in your book has been bled for and died for.

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And then it says this Christ has set this aside, nailing it to the cross. And so the idea that somehow you have to, you attain the sinless perfection, you know, before you can go straight before God, that's just nonsense.

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That, I think that just reeks of the Pelagian heresy, but that, but what do I know? I, you know, I'm just a confessional

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Lutheran. So you get the idea. All right, let's see here. Rodeo Empire, let's see if I can add this.

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And I, hang on a second here. I'm gonna come back over here and add this to the broadcast.

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We'll put this over here. There we go. All right, let's see here. I have parents that are in the

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Word of Faith NAR. They have been to Bethel million women event. Oh, that was a horrible event by the way.

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Billy Burke, Jen Miskoff, Jennifer Evaz, Heidi Baker. How do I balance honoring them and having nothing to do with the deeds of darkness?

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Okay, so a great question. And I would note that clearly, you know, we have the, you know, we have the commandment.

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You shall honor your father and mother in play. The idea then is this, is that, hang on a second here.

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I'm gonna come back over here. There we go. Is that honoring your father and mother is also going to include confronting them regarding their false beliefs.

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But I would note, it's a little easier for somebody that doesn't know than a family member to talk with them.

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And so always, and again, the technique I recommend is patiently, number one, praying for your parents, praying for the people in your family that are caught up in these deceptions.

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You're gonna note it is above your pay grade to open their eyes. God, the Holy Spirit has to open their eyes and he does so through his word.

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And then the next part of this is actually patiently taking the time to learn what they're hearing and learn what they're believing and then finding the biblical texts that contradict it.

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And then having a conversation that basically goes like this. Do you remember when Jennifer Avaz said this or Heidi Baker said that, you know, and you can name some of the most recent stuff.

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And you say, yeah, I was paying attention. But then find the biblical texts that contradict what they're teaching and then read those biblical texts out and then ask this question.

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How do you reconcile the contradiction between what they're believing and what the word of God says?

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And don't answer the question for them. You need to ask the question and let them struggle with the answer.

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But find those passages where the word of God just legitimately contradicts what they're believing and then ask them, how do you reconcile the contradiction between what you're believing and what you're being taught and what

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God's word says? And I would note, fighting for the faith, this is what we do day in and day out here at Fighting for the

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Faith. We facilitate the collision between God's word and what people are saying.

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You know, I've gotten to the point where I've heard so much heresy and watched so much of it. It's painful to have to do prep work for every episode of Fighting for the

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Faith. But for me, it's not even worth putting an episode together for the most part, unless I can find some way to teach the scripture because the scriptures are the thing that do the work.

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You know, you might sit there and go, well, you're putting all this together. Listen, at the end of the day, if I don't have a biblical text to open up for you so that you can see what

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God's word really says, it's, you know, there's no point in putting Fighting for the

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Faith together. I'm not interested in theotainment. And even our Prophecy Bingo segments, as funny and entertaining as they are, they serve a purpose as well to show people through absurdity that these people are false prophets.

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That's kind of the idea. There's a teaching aspect to it. All right, hang on a second here.

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My apologies. I'm a little under the weather, which means I have to do something really gross here.

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I have to blow my nose. And hang on a second here. I might even mute myself for this.

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Hold on a second. There we go.

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Yeah, I came down with a head cold yesterday on Christmas and it's a little bit of a bummer, but oh well.

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Maybe I should just decree and declare it away. Anyway. Okay, okay.

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So Daniel, let me show this one. Hang on a second. I'm gonna come back here. I'm gonna add this to the broadcast.

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All right. Daniel C says, how do you personally combat those who say

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Isaiah 53 is about Israel and not a messianic prophecy? I would note that that is a new interpretation and it's clearly, it doesn't work in the

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Hebrew. Let me explain. Let me do this and come over here. And if I were to go to Isaiah 53,

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Isaiah 53. Hang on a second here. I'm gonna add a little bit of context because I can go back because this section kind of begins here.

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All right, are you ready? Behold, my servant shall act wisely. Okay, who's this?

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And traditionally, the Jewish rabbis back in the day thought that this was a prophecy regarding Messiah.

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Now you'll note that Talmudic Judaism totally denies that and claims that this is talking about Israel as a whole.

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And so this is somehow dealing with the suffering that they have gone through from the

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Holocaust. They've been made to suffer and stuff like that. It doesn't work. So number one, we're not dealing with a group of people.

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We're dealing with a person. And this is part of the servant song of the prophet

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Isaiah. So behold, my servant shall act wisely. He shall be high and lifted up. He shall be exalted.

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As many as were astonished at you, his appearance was so marred beyond human semblance and his form beyond that of the children of mankind.

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So shall he sprinkle many nations. Okay, now the sprinkling here is a reference to the sprinkling that takes place when a sacrifice is made.

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And so you're gonna note that this doesn't work when you somehow make it about the sufferings of the people of Israel because their suffering is not an atonement.

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Not at all. And so the sprinkling here that is alluded to is a sprinkling regarding atoning for sin, right?

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Kings shall shut their mouths because of him, singular, for that which has not been told them they see and that which they have not understood they heard.

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Now we get into 53. And you'll note that this section began with the stuff we just read in 52.

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So who has believed what he has heard from us and to whom has the arm of Yahweh been revealed?

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For he grew up before him like a young plant and like a root out of dry ground. He had no form or majesty that we should look at him, no beauty that we should desire him.

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He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And as one from whom men hid their faces, he was despised and we esteemed him not.

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And I would note, if you just take your garden variety, Talmudic Jew, right?

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Who hasn't been really poisoned regarding this. This text doesn't even get read in their lectionary anymore.

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And you were to just kind of do the average Joe Schmoe interview on the street and read this out and ask, who is this about?

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Many of us sit there and go, that sounds like it's about Jesus. Because it is, okay? Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows.

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Yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions.

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He was crushed for our iniquities. And upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace.

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And with his wounds, we are healed. This section rules out any reference then to this being the children of Israel, because the sufferings that they've gone through in human history, and as terrible as they have been, they are not an atoning sacrifice.

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They are not propitiatory. Far from it, okay? In fact, one can argue that many of the things that Jews have suffered over the millennia is because of their own sin and their own rebellion.

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And so, but here, this is talking about a vicarious death that wins salvation and wins for us peace with God and true healing.

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And we're not talking about the word of faith kind of healing. We're talking about that healing that comes from being spiritually healed.

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All we like sheep have gone astray. We have turned everyone to his own way, and here we go. The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

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Look at the cross references here. This is the same kind of concept then that talks about then the sacrificial animals during the day of atonement.

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The priest is to ceremonially lay the sins of the people on that sacrificial animal.

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Here, it's describing the Messiah as having our sins laid on him as if he's the true atoning sacrifice for the day of atonement.

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That's the whole point. So I would note that the details of this prophecy completely rule out any kind of exegesis that would make it about, you know, people who are descendants of Abraham.

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That's not, this is not a generic description of the sufferings of the people who are the descendants of Abraham.

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This is the sufferings of a very specific descendant of Abraham, and this is the

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Messiah. He was oppressed, he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth. And like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before it shears the silence, so he opened not his mouth.

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By oppression and judgment, he was taken away, and as for his generation who considered that he was cut off from the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people, and they have made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death, you'll note that that finds its fulfillment in Christ's death.

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Where was Jesus buried? In the tomb of a rich man. Although he had done no violence, there was no deceit in his mouth.

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You can't say that regarding Jews in general. You can only say this about Christ. Yet it was the will of Yahweh to crush him, and he has put him to grief.

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When a soul makes an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring, he shall prolong his days.

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He will, the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand, out of the anguish of his soul, he shall see and be satisfied.

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By his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous.

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And here we go again. This completely rules out generic, the generic descendants of Abraham.

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This is talking about specifically the Messiah, the suffering servant, and it's through him that people are then accounted righteous, because he was the sinless, spotless

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Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. He shall bear their iniquities, right?

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So when you do the exegesis on this, it doesn't fit with this dealing with Jews.

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And then I would notice Christians, we would go to like the book of Acts. Let me see if it's in, I think it's in eight.

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Let's see here. I know it might be seven. Hang on a second here.

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I'm doing this from memory. So sometimes my memory is just not the best.

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Maybe it is eight. Hang on a second here. Okay, Philip proclaims having the magician believes.

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Here we go. Here we go. Acts chapter eight, we have a definitive text that shows us that this is about Christ.

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So as a Christian, we have no option of going off the rails here. An angel of the

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Lord said to Philip, rise and go toward the south to the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.

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This is a desert place and he rose and went and there was an Ethiopian, a eunuch, a court official of Candace, the queen of the

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Ethiopians, who was in charge of all of her treasure. He had come to Jerusalem to worship and was returning seated on his chariot and he was reading the prophet

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Isaiah. So what's he reading? The prophet Isaiah, right? And the spirit said to Philip, you go over and join this chariot.

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So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah, the prophet had asked, do you understand what you're reading?

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And he's, hang on a second here, I clicked that. And so he said, well, how can

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I, unless someone guides me, right? So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. Now the passage of scripture that he was reading was this.

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Like a sheep, he was led to the slaughter, like a lamb before it shears the silence. So he opened not his mouth. In his humiliation, justice was denied him.

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Who can describe his generation for his life is taken away from the earth. So the Ethiopian eunuch happens to be reading

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Isaiah 53. Okay, here we go. So the eunuch said to Philip, about whom

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I ask you, does the prophet say this? About himself or about someone else? Philip opened his mouth and beginning with this scripture, he told him the good news about Jesus.

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This text is about Christ. So I hope that answers the question. But when you, all you have to do is exegetically look at the details of Isaiah 52 and 53.

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They don't fit the genetic, just the generic descendants of Abraham. And their lives, the sufferings that they've gone through are not propitiatory.

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They do not atone for sin or make anybody righteous. The suffering they've gone through is the result of sin, period.

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And then you'll note that we have definitive texts. And I would also say Peter, also in 1 Peter, makes it very clear that this is referring to Christ.

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So that's how I would go after that particular question.

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Tori, let's see here. Hold on a second here, seriously.

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So the question is, when are you going to reveal that Joshua is adopted and I'm the rightful heir of the armada?

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I'm tired of his excessive talent in GQ. I cannot answer this question.

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I am sworn to secrecy of regarding these things. I don't even know what the correct response is.

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Okay, let's see here. And the floor on his knees saying goal.

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Okay, let's see here. Baby video game controller sits in diaper under the word noob.

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Okay, let's see here. All of you pirates have been such a blessing. Thank you. Oh, I guess, let me thank

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Kimbers for her super chat. I wanna thank you for that.

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There doesn't seem to be a question associated with it. So we'll leave that here.

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Also thank you to Chasers for his super chat. That is wonderful. And then also for Teresa Fair for her super chat.

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All of you pirates have been such a blessing. Thank you to the Lord for you pastor. Thank you. It is always an honor to be able to serve y 'all.

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And that's basically what I am. I'm just a servant. So let's see here.

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Germ writes, how should I respond to a parent who states receiving songs from the

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Holy Spirit and hears from him daily? I don't wanna call my parent a liar, but I'm conflicted based upon what

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I've learned. Okay, so your parent is a liar, but here's the thing.

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They could be like honestly deceived. The best way I can put it is that we gotta be careful when we're dealing with the deceived because they could be deceived by other people or they can even be deceived by the demonic.

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And so I would note that a few people that I've run into who claim to hear from God, the

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Holy Spirit, they are having some kind of legitimate experience, but it's not the

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Holy Spirit that's speaking to them. And let me give you a biblical text in this regard. I'm gonna do a quick search in,

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I want the epistles and we're gonna do demons. Okay, here we go.

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First Timothy 4 .1. Listen to what this says. Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times, some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons.

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So we're gonna note then that there is a percentage of people out there who being deceived, they're not intentionally lying.

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They legitimately believe that the experiences that they're having are from God, the

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Holy Spirit, but the source of that is not the Holy Spirit. Instead, it's the demonic.

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And so the idea here is that you don't have to, with everybody who's deceived, you don't have to immediately go to, you're a liar.

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Let me give you an example of a time when that might be appropriate, okay? Years ago, when my kids were still living in our house and we were raising them, we were getting ready to put them all into our minivan and head off to church.

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And I kid you not, like 35 minutes before it was time for us to leave, the Jehovah's Witnesses showed up at our doorstep and knocked on the door.

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And I never wanna pass up an opportunity to share the gospel with a Jehovah's Witness, so I opened the door.

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And a little bit of a note here is that one of the things I've learned doing counter cold apologetics is that when it comes to the

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Jehovah's Witnesses, they have a lot of defenses set up regarding like the deity of Christ and the

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Trinity and stuff like this. Where they have no defenses set up at all is regarding the fact that salvation is a free gift of God.

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It's not by works. And so the book of Galatians is the best place to take a

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Jehovah's Witness. And I know their own Bible, their own translation, the translation that they have.

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And I can read it from there and they haven't gotten rid of the texts. And so I was taking these two ladies through a portion of the book of Galatians that's talking about the fact that salvation is not by works, it's by grace.

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It is not by works, unless anyone should boast. And it's so wonderfully said, especially like Galatians 3 and in the early portion of 4.

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And just push them on this. And one of the ladies,

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I kid you not, she said to me, well, I don't need to worry about sin because I haven't sinned in a long time.

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She said that. Now, the funny thing was is my wife who was trying to get the kids ready for church heard this lady say that, that she hadn't sinned in a long time, that she's practically sinless.

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And my wife came flying out of the kitchen, straight to the front door of our house, went right up into this lady's face and said, you are such a liar.

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And the reason she did that is because she actually has a biblical text to go along with it.

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Let me show you what the text is before you think my wife is just a little out there because my wife is just a little out there at times.

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But here's what it says in 1 John. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

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If we confess our sins, He, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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If we say we have not sinned, we make God to be a liar and His word is not in us. And so if somebody's claiming sinless perfection in this lifetime, you basically say you are a liar.

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But when it comes to people who are following something that may actually be the doctrines of demons, the issue is that they may not be intentionally lying.

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They could be legitimately listening to a demonic spirit and believing that that's the voice of God.

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And 1 Timothy makes that very clear. And so I would note that 1

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John 4, 1, then is probably the better place to go in this regard because your parents may not be intentionally lying.

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They just may be being deceived by a false demonic spirit. So here's what the scripture says.

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Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God.

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For many false prophets have gone out into the world. So the idea then is that if you claim to be receiving direct revelation from the

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Holy Spirit, the scripture says you have to test to see whether that really is the

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Holy Spirit. So the idea is don't pull out the liar card immediately.

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Leave room for the fact that they may be in contact with the demonic. Satan himself disguises himself as an angel of light.

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And so the idea that in the last days, people would be following doctrines of demons, that means the demons are the ones teaching it.

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And so that I think the better way to go with your parents is to assume they're being deceived by the demonic. And then here's the idea, pray.

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Okay, let me explain what I mean here. Let me find the text here. Transfigured, hang on a second here.

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Transfigured, okay. I want the, I think the one in,

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I think I want the one in Mark. Okay, Mark nine, hang on a second.

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Let me show this to you, Mark nine. Okay, we got the transfiguration here.

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But when Jesus comes down from the Mount of Transfiguration in Mark nine, it says this.

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When they came to the disciples, they saw a great crowd around them and the scribes arguing with them.

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And immediately all the crowd, when they saw him, they were greatly amazed and they ran up to him and they greeted him.

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And he asked them, what are you arguing about with them? And then someone from the crowd answered, teacher,

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I brought my son to you, for he has a spirit that makes him mute. And whenever it seizes him, it throws him down and he foams and he grinds his teeth and becomes rigid.

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So I asked your disciples to cast it out. And they were not able. And he answered, oh, faithless generation, how long am

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I going to be with you? How long am I to bear with you? Bring him to me. And so they brought the boy to him.

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And when the spirit saw him, immediately convulsed the boy and he fell on the ground and rolled about foaming, foaming at the mouth.

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And here's the interesting bit here, is that Jesus said, how long has this been happening to him?

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So here you got this kid is fully manifesting a demon and foaming at the mouth. And Jesus talks to the dad first, we'll get to the demon here in a minute.

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So he said, well, from childhood, and it's often cast him into fire and into water to destroy him. But if you can do anything, have compassion on us and help us.

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And Jesus said, if you can, all things are possible for the one who believes. So immediately his father cried out and said,

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I believe, help my unbelief. And when Jesus saw that a crowd came running together, he rebuked the unclean spirit saying to it, you mute and deaf spirit,

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I command you to come out of him and never enter him again. And after crying out, it convulsed him terribly and it came out and the boy was like a corpse so that most of them said he's dead.

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But Jesus took him by the hand, lifted him up and arose. And when he had entered the house, the disciples asked him privately, are you ready?

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Why could we not cast it out? I mean, didn't Jesus give the disciples who would be his apostles authority over the demons?

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Yeah, he did. So they asked like the $24 million question, why couldn't we cast this one out?

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And Jesus said, this kind cannot be driven out by anything but prayer, which then kind of begs the question, what kind of demon is this?

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Well, this is such a powerful demon that not even the apostles of Christ could cast it out, but who cast it out?

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Jesus did. So the idea then is, is that whenever we're dealing with the demonic, we need to pray, okay?

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And the idea is this, if the strongest of demons is cast out by Christ by praying to him and asking him to cast it out, then the idea then regarding your parents is actually simple.

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Let's assume that a demon has gotten them, basically your parents wrapped around its claws.

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I don't even wanna say fingers because I don't even think demons have fingers, wrapped around one of his claws. So that being the case, if the strongest of demons is brought to nothing by prayer,

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Christ being our exorcist, then that's the idea. You pray. You pray that Christ would have mercy on your parents.

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You pray that God would destroy the works of the devil, that he would cast the demon out, that he would cause them to no longer hear its voice, that they would then hear the voice of God in his word and the voice of the real

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Holy Spirit through the Bible, through the scriptures, and so that they can see the truth and that their eyes would be opened and they would no longer be deceived.

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So the idea then is that you may not be dealing with your parents lying at all. They may actually believe that they've come in contact with the

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Holy Spirit, but in fact, they have come in contact with the demonic. So what do we do? We pray and we pray a lot.

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And fasting is in order here too as well. I would note that there's an alternative text in an alternative set of manuscripts that say that basically this kind can only be driven out by prayer and fasting.

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So prayer and fasting are in order for your parents. You don't have to call them liars, but have mercy on them by praying for them first and then pointing out the first John says, you have to test the spirit.

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Have you tested the spirit that is giving you these songs and these downloads and these revelations?

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How do you know it's not the demonic? And because we're not supposed to listen to any spirit that we haven't determined is actually sent from God.

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So that's where I would go with this, okay? Let's see here. Let me come back.

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All right, let's go back over here and to broadcast. Aztec01, for the treasure chest,

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Merry Christmas, carry on, thank you. Thank you very much for the super chat. From baby catching funeral director.

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Okay, hang on a second here. Let me close that one. Okay, I'm not sure what to make of this, okay?

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From baby changing funeral director, Dave Jones UK versus you on eschatology debate.

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Have him contact me. I have no idea who this Dave Jones is in the

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UK, but why not? If they wanna have a debate on eschatology, sure, that sounds like fun.

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So we could do something like that. Can any one of you faithful men of God, hang on a second, here we go.

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Teresa says, can any one of you faithful men of God address a video made by Buddy Brown regarding leaving a letter of hope to those left behind in the tribulation?

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Okay. So here's the issue, okay?

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And this is worth noting here and let me do this. I'll come back over here. Is that when we talk about eschatology, the idea of leaving a note because people are gonna be left behind, this doesn't make any biblical sense, like at all.

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It was the Darbyites and then through the Schofield study Bible that this idea of the rapture kind of came into the church.

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It's a new teaching, but I would note it's easy to debunk and there's like no place for it.

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So let me explain. Let me see here, trumpet. I'm gonna just do a quick trumpet.

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Okay, all right. And I want to go to the epistles for this one.

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Okay, all right. First Thessalonians four, we're gonna note here.

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Y 'all remember ever watching like force 10 from Navarone or the guns of Navarone or things like this, talking about how they would, guys who are on special military missions, they would have to synchronize their watches.

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Okay, did you know that we have a way of synchronizing the return of Christ with certain things?

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And that is that this trumpet bit, let me explain. Here's what it says in First Thessalonians 4 .16.

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The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, with the sound of the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

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Okay, so note what we got here. We have details. Cry of command, voice of an archangel, sound of the trumpet.

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Okay, and what happens then? The dead in Christ will rise first. This is not the day of the rapture.

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This is the day of the resurrection when Jesus returns in glory to judge the living and the dead. Well, when we sync that up with Matthew 24, some of the details in Matthew 24, let me show you how you can synchronize it.

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Here's what Christ says regarding his coming.

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Immediately after the tribulation of those days, okay? The sun will be darkened.

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The moon will not give its light. The stars will fall from the heaven. The powers of the heavens will be shaken.

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Now keep this in mind, okay? What happens first? The sun no longer gives its light. The moon is dark and stars fall from the sky.

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Everybody on planet Earth is freaking out as a result of this, because without the sun, we don't have crops.

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Without crops, we don't have humanity. It's the end of the world. My apologies for my juicy nose here, but oh well.

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So then will appear in heaven the sign of the son of man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory, and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call.

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They will gather his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other. So just synchronize this.

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So in First Thessalonians, the trumpet call is regarding what?

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The resurrection of the dead, the return of Christ. And so here we can synchronize this. All of this happens after the sun is darkened.

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You can't even have it. There's no way to have a secret rapture with the tribulation afterwards if this is the case, okay?

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You get the idea. Just let the trumpets and the archangel call synchronize these texts, and you can see it doesn't work, okay?

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So concerning that day and that hour, Noah knows not even the angels of heaven nor the sun, but only the father, for as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the son of man.

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As in those days before the flood, they were eating and drinking and marrying and giving in marriage until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the son of man.

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Then two will be in the field. One will be taken and one will be left. This is the text that people use to support the rapture.

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One will be taken, the other one will be left, but when you read Matthew 24 in context and you put it in the timeline, this happens when

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Christ sends out his angels with the last trumpet call. This is the last, last, last day.

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There are no days ahead. There's no point in leaving a message for those who are left behind because the thing that happens after this is the judgment of the whole world and then the destruction of heaven and earth and the creation of the new heavens and the new earth.

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Two women will be grinding at the mill. One will be taken, one will be left. Therefore, stay awake. You don't know on what day your

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Lord is coming. So hopefully you found that to be a helpful answer. So there's no point in leaving a message behind for somebody because you're gonna get raptured.

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You ain't. That's not gonna happen. The rapture itself is not a doctrine that the church has even believed until very recently.

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Thank you Darby Ites and Schofield Bible for bringing us that, but the idea here is that when you just let the

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Bible synchronize the details, First Thessalonians four with Matthew 24, then you note that the trumpet blast occurs and the angels are sent out and that's the idea here.

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There's no secret rapture and all of this takes place after the sun is dark and the moon no longer gives its light and the stars fall from the sky.

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So, okay. Hopefully that answered that question. So let's see here.

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Now I, man, I have just a few more minutes. So I've gotta pick a question very carefully is the best way

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I can put it. Let's see here. Let's see here. I'm scrolling through looking for one that I can answer pretty quickly.

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Let's see. Okay. So this is a good break in this.

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So I'm okay. Let's see here. All right. So here's the question. What would be the main reasons why you aren't

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Catholic? And I'm gonna assume that you're asking Roman Catholic. Okay. And so that's the question that's being answered.

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Quite simply it's this, is that Rome has added doctrines to Christianity in the name of tradition.

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Claiming that there's an oral tradition which is exactly what the Pharisees did at the time of Christ. Claiming that the tradition of the elders.

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And so they've added to the scriptures and included in that is going to be the doctrine of purgatory, doctrine of indulgences, the doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Christ.

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The idea that Mary is our intercessor. That she intercedes for us.

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No biblical texts teach any of this. And then I would note that one of the most,

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I think one of the most important documents that I think just completely debunks the idea of Roman Catholicism.

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Now here's the thing. Confessional Lutherans consider themselves to be Catholic. Small C though.

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The idea then is that we are holding to the Catholic faith. And so the document that I think is really important was a document that was lost and then later found in the early part of the 20th century.

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And it's called the demonstration of the apostolic preaching by Irenaeus who wrote that in the second century.

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Now the church knew about this document for a long, long, long time because there were church fathers who quoted from it.

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But we didn't have an extant copy of it until that we can actually examine ourselves until very recently.

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And that's about 110, 115 years ago is when they found it. Take a look at the document, the demonstration of the apostolic preaching by Irenaeus.

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You'll note that what's missing is Roman Catholicism. The way he defines Catholicism is not at all the way

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Rome defines it. And I would note that there are some very, very damning doctrines within Roman Catholicism that Rome not only embraces, they anathematize anybody who contradicts it.

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But those doctrines contradict the clear word of God. So for instance, salvation is by grace through faith apart from works.

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Now, a little bit of a note here. The scriptures are very clear that every

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Christian, it is necessary for them to do good works, not in order to be saved, but because they are saved.

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The apostle Paul puts it this way in Ephesians 2. For by grace you have been saved through faith.

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This is not your own doing. It is the gift of God so that no one may boast. For we are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which

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God has prepared in advance for us to do. That being the case, it's very simple.

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Our works do not merit God's forgiveness. In fact, one of the things I found very fascinating that I just was watching the news over Christmas and saw a report coming out of Rome because you have

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Pope Francis opening up portals, right? And so one of the portals is the holy door leading into St.

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Peter's. And this is kicking off the Jubilee. What I found fascinating was the commentator from the news was basically saying, because this is the year of Jubilee, the

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Pope is giving out indulgences. People who will travel to Rome during the year of Jubilee and do particular things, and they can have their sins forgiven.

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And I'd sit there and go, and that's the reason why I'm not a Roman Catholic, because Christ forgives our sins freely for his sake, not because we've received an indulgence from the

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Pope. In fact, if the Pope truly had the ability to just spring people out of purgatory and stuff like this, then the most kind thing that he can do is to empty the place out, but he doesn't.

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Because what has happened is that Rome has basically made a lot of money teaching man -made doctrines and defending them.

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But all of those doctrines undermine the free gift of salvation that we have in Jesus Christ.

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And so it's absolutely tragic in my way of thinking, because I look at what the scripture says, that Christ has canceled the entire record of debt.

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We already read this in Colossians 2. He's forgiven us all of our sins. I don't need to make a pilgrimage to Rome during the

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Jubilee year in order to receive an indulgence, which would then grant to me forgiveness of my sins.

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All of my sins are granted to me by grace through faith, all on account of what Christ has done on the cross.

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He has been pierced from my transgressions, bruised from my iniquities. The chastisement that brought me peace with God was upon Christ, and also for you as well.

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So that's the reason why I'm not a Roman Catholic, but Lutherans consider themselves to be

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Catholic, small C again. Read Irenaeus' demonstration of the apostolic preaching.

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I think you'll find it eye -opening by virtue of the fact of what's missing. So, all right, we are, that's as far as we can go today for our live stream.

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Great questions, everybody, really good questions. And I pray that not only did you have a blessed

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Christmas, remember there's 12 days of Christmas. I pray that you have a blessed remainder of the

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Christmas season and a happy new year. And we'll be putting videos out shortly after the beginning of the new year.

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And I'm not looking forward to this. We've gotta do a roundup of like the 2025 prophecies that are gonna be released.

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Oy, this is gonna be intolerable, but you get the idea. So peace to you, Lord willing, we will see you all next time.