Hamas, Israel, the Great Tribulation: Are They Connected?

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Welcome. You've obviously seen the title. We want to jump right into it as much as we can.

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We should thank our sponsors first. We're going to do that, yeah. So the title of the show today is Hamas, Israel, the

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Great Tribulation, and Are They Connected? So if you're here and you are a person who's very concerned with handling the word of God rightly, if you're concerned with making sure that we are letting the text speak and we're not doing newspaper exegesis, we're reading every current event from the newspaper or from online websites into the text.

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If you're concerned with that, I think it's an important time for us to have this discussion because once again, as has always been the case since I've been a

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Christian and alive, especially me becoming a Christian late in the 90s, we've been down this road so many times before.

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We're the prophecy experts and the prophecy industry, and it is a huge industry.

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There's no short supply of them. No, a lot of money. Like James has said, Pastor James has said, you do a conference in the

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Trinity, and you're not going to have a lot of people necessarily attending that, and they should, but you do a conference on the end times and blood moons, and you're going to fill the place up.

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It'll be a sold -out prophecy conference. So every incident that's happened with Israel and Jerusalem gets spun into, well, it's probably this

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Bible text or that Bible text. We're right there. I've been watching videos over the last week and a half.

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It's just videos for days, everybody coming on saying this was prophesied in the

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Bible. We're right at the edge here. Jesus is about to return. I was watching a woman yesterday saying we're nanoseconds away, nanoseconds away.

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And I was watching that yesterday, so apparently not nanoseconds because it's today.

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You know, the rapture is imminent, and so I think it's important for us to ask the question because so many people are talking about it, as they should be.

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It's an important world event right now, but does this have anything to do with the great tribulation described by the

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Lord Jesus in the Gospels? You have Matthew 24. You also have Mark 13, Luke 21, the

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Olivet Discourse by the Lord Jesus, where he describes the great tribulation that was coming, what they were to be looking for, the destruction of the

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Jewish temple, and he, in Matthew 24, caps off the entire discussion with all these things must take place before this generation passes away.

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And so how do we handle the Word of God rightly in a situation like this, where we're dealing with very hard things, very difficult things?

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So what we want to do today is sort of like layer this discussion and move our way through how are we to view the events that took place and transpired in terms of just war theory?

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How are we to view people today who are part of the State of Israel, who profess to be

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Jews but reject Jesus as the Messiah? Are they the chosen people of God? We want to answer that question with the

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Bible, and of course do it with a very sensitive heart because we want to reach that mission field. And then we want to go into the text and talk about, are the events over the last two weeks concerning Hamas with Israel or Hezbollah and their involvement in Iran and even possibly

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Russia? Is this Gog and Magog from Ezekiel 38?

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Is this anything to do with what we do or expect? Or did that already happen? Did Ezekiel 38 already happen? So many things we can talk about.

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Cultist for sure. All right, let's jump in. So serious conversation, obviously, dealing with Hamas and even the involvement of like Hezbollah and Iran's involvement.

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You know, it's a serious situation because so much global conflict can erupt as a result of what takes place in terms of the involvement of the

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American military or anybody else. But I think we need to have a discussion at the start before we even get to the discussion of Israel as a chosen people of God, the relationship of the church to Israel, all that stuff.

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Before we get to that discussion, it's really important for us to talk about the horrific, horrific, horrifying, heartbreaking things that have happened over the last two weeks and make sure we lay down as a foundation, praise the

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Lord for His word and the Christian church developing something called

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Just War Theory. I mean, this is a tradition of the Christian church. Just War Theory is a tradition of the

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Christian church built upon the Christian worldview, the Christian scriptures. Going all the way back even to Augustine, these discussions took place in terms of Just War Theory.

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So I'm going to say at the start, praise the Lord that you see people on CNN, which if you didn't know is not the

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Christian news network. It's not? No, far from it. It's great.

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I just was blessed this last week and a half or so listening to like, you know, because random reports come up.

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You're like, is anything new happening? So I happened to click on MSNBC or CNN and to see like CNN and MSNBC, these radical liberals and leftists and people that hate

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God and the Christian worldview talking about just war and protecting civilians and are you making sure you're protecting civilians and you can't go after, you know, you can't go after grandmas, women and pregnant women and babies.

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You can't do it. You can't rape. You can't rape hostages that you take. And I'm thinking to myself. Where did they get that from?

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Praise God for your word. Praise God for Just War Theory. Praise God for the work of the Christian church that developed a

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Just War Theory through the centuries. So if you like protecting civilians in warfare, if you like that sort of a thing, you can just say a prayer of thanks to God for the

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Christian worldview. It's so great to see people talking like that, like to be so horrified by Hamas coming in through paragliders and coming through fences and like attacking civilians at a party, at a rave or attacking people, walking into people's homes and just slaughtering a family and babies.

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Stealing kids. Stealing kids and women. You see that horrific, horrific video. My heart just fell.

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That very popular video. I'm not going to play it on the show today. I'm sure you've already seen it.

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Thank goodness. The video of the woman who was kidnapped by Hamas and the camera gets behind her and you see that her butt is just covered in blood from obviously being gang raped.

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You see stuff like that and the world is horrified and it's like, well, let's talk about a foundation for being horrified.

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It's only with the word of God and with the message of Jesus that you can be horrified at things like that. If there is no

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God, why are the atheists complaining? It's just star dust bumping into star dust.

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African apes doing what African apes do under these conditions. That's all that's happening. Survival of the fittest, really.

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Praise God for the Christian worldview that has so infected the world that they just are horrified by what's happening.

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Of course, you hear the stories of babies, literally defenseless babies having their heads cut off, being decapitated by these murderous beasts.

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By the way, if you don't like babies being decapitated, you should be an abolitionist. Welcome to it,

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CNN. All your complaints about decapitated babies. It's like, well, what's been happening under your nose and under your watch and with your imprimatur all this time in America?

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It's amazing how you're so horrified now with decapitated babies. Yeah, that's a slow day at Planned Parenthood.

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Exactly. Yeah, 40, and they're like, oh my goodness, 40. It's like, well, that's per location in some small towns.

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So we do need to talk. We're going to say a lot of things that are probably going to challenge a lot of our evangelical brothers and sisters.

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We're going to say some things that we want you to just be humble enough just to hear us out in terms of God's chosen people, the people in the state of Israel today, all that stuff.

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We love the Jews. We want the Jews to know Jesus. They're a mission field. We want to lay our lives down for them, 110%.

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We're fully committed to that. But we're going to say some things I am fully confident that are going to upset some of you.

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I would go even further to say we believe in their restoration as recipients of the true and saving gospel.

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Yeah. We believe that God promises that and that he'll bring it to fruition. Every enemy under his feet. We look forward to the day when physical national

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Israel, the state of Israel, turns to Jesus Christ in faith. We look forward to that day. Yes. But we're going to say some things that are probably going to rub you the wrong way.

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If you've been raised in the Left Behind series and with Tim LaHaye and dispensational premillennialism.

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As was I. I know. Me too. We're going to say some things that are going to bother you, and I just want to ask you to please just be humble and quiet enough just to sort of listen.

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But I don't want to get into that discussion without quickly having a discussion about, here's my point, we're going to say some things that are going to rub the evangelical in the

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West in the wrong way. By necessity, because this theology has dominated the American landscape for a long time now.

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Right. But we want you to hear us. And when we're going to oppose so much of what is said today about Israel as a chosen people of God, I'm talking about the state of Israel today, the people there who reject

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Jesus, the ultra -Orthodox Jews, all that stuff. When we question whether they are truly

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Jews, when we question whether they are truly Israel, and whether they are the chosen people of God, it does not mean that we do not support them fully in their right of national defense, and to absolutely annihilate, obliterate, and slam the hand of justice down on Hamas and Hezbollah and anyone else who is involved.

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I pray, you know, here's one thing, and this is where I'll shut up and hand it to you guys. I have been hoping, when

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I heard that there are American hostages, so because, like, okay, we have to think rightly about this.

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We as Christians need to have a just war theory, and that doesn't just mean, like, who's attacked first. It means, like, what should our involvement be as a nation when we weren't specifically attacked?

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We can't be policing the world. We can't be involved in unjust wars that really are issues where they're not our business.

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We need to stop doing that, bring troops home, stop spending taxpayer money of Americans on wars that aren't our wars.

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That's unjust, and as a Christian, we've got to start thinking like that and stop thinking like America, Fox News.

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Like, we need to think Christianly. However, when I heard, my first response was, these terrorist beasts, these animals, brutes, they come in and start murdering civilians.

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Israel has a right before God to deliver the hand of justice and just absolutely annihilate them.

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Before God, they have that right. Scripture would give you full support for that. But I said, and still, though, that's their war, not our war.

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That's their war, not our war. That's just war theory. That's their fight, not our fight. We can offer support from the side and say, hey,

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I'm praying for you guys. I hope that you obliterate the enemy. But when

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I heard that there were American hostages, then I said, well, then we can be involved in that aspect of the fight, and I think we have a moral obligation to do so.

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If Hamas, a terrorist organization, took Americans as hostages, and they have them now, we have every right before God to send

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American military like Navy SEALs, Delta Force, Special Operations Commands, to go get our

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Americans back. I think we have a moral obligation to do so. So I'm hoping to God that they send our very best

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Navy SEALs and every other special force group that can do this and help a bit with getting our

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American hostages back and making sure that these devils meet

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God. So it would be a rescue mission to liberate American citizens. That's right.

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So that's my position. Their right to defend themselves, their right to fight back in response and annihilate

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Hamas, we have a right as Americans now to say we're getting our hostages back, so we're coming in and joining in this too to fight

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Hamas on our side to get our hostages. So I'm fully in support of Israel's right to defend itself and everything going on right now.

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So I want to put that as the outset that everyone understands that's my position. Well, yeah, and I was the one that asked this question because if you guys didn't see,

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Dr. White did a fantastic sermon on Sunday about just a reminder to love

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Muslims, not allow the few that are awful to cause us to hate

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Muslims. And it was a good sobering reminder. Very convicting. But then at the same time,

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I was like, well, but we also can have a righteous indignation against these fools, like Jeff said, acting like animals.

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And even pray maybe some imprecatory prayers. Yeah, absolutely. So there is a line of distinction there.

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And yes, we should absolutely love our Muslim neighbors and friends and pray for them and share

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Christ with them. But we can also have a righteous indignation for these just absolute inhuman people.

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That's what I noticed. And a love for innocent life too. Yeah, I mean, it goes back to rescue those being led to the slaughter lake.

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So anyways, that was my question. I was like, man, we should make a distinction in this conversation because yeah, those guys are evil and they deserve to die.

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I'm glad you brought that up. I'm very glad we didn't skip that. If you guys get a chance, go check out the message that Pastor James preached last

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Sunday at Apologia Church. It's here on this channel. That's so important because it was very challenging.

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You're in the midst of watching all these news reports. You're seeing like the violence and the murder and the GoPro footage, these evil beasts. The anger rising up within you.

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Yeah, and so you see all that. And James just really brought something to me. And I had to sort of like, okay, stop.

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Yeah, he's right. I can't allow what Hamas does to now create such a fear in me that I won't reach the

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Muslim. And so I really, I sat there. I was in the parking garage of the hospital when

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I was watching that. And I remember I sat there for a second. I hit pause and I stopped and I thought, do

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I feel the way about the Muslim community that I do the Mormon community?

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And I had to like sort of, I had to repent there and go, yeah, it's fear.

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It's avoidance. Yeah, over the last week, that's how my heart has gone.

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It's like, this is evil. I didn't even tell you guys. I won't mention the city

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I was in, but I'm across the country for the girls. And I try to get back to my hotel.

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And I'm driving. This is a normal American city. I'm driving down the street downtown.

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And all of a sudden, I see the car in front of me try to like just quickly spin around and go the other. And we're like a one -way street.

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I'm like, what are you doing? And then I look up and I realize there are hundreds of protesters walking.

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This is nighttime. There are hundreds of protesters walking down the street towards me, filling the street up and they're blocking the street off coming towards me.

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There's nowhere else to go but to spin around myself. And they're all holding up the Palestinian flag and they're all yelling,

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Allah Akbar. And they're yelling that.

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And these were like a bunch of Americans too. And I'm just like, this is so strange, like yelling this down the street.

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So I had to like spin around and they were pretty aggressive. But like reflecting on all that as I heard

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James' message was just that point. Like, do I see the Muslim community as a mission field that needs

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Jesus or am I just living in fear from what Fox News and CNN is feeding me?

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Or do I need to love them the same way and reach them? Now, this isn't an argument. This isn't an argument about just war where if you're attacked by terrorists, your government has the right before God to erase them from the record.

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That's a separate category. But in general, like Luke is saying, do

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I love Muslims and want to reach them? It's a challenging thought. A benefit of living in this nation,

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I was at the gun range the other day and there was a Hasidic Jew coming in and I was like, good on you.

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I don't think they could do that necessarily in Israel. Not sure.

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I think it's a really good point. I think it just goes back to as a Christian, we need to have range as in love for the lost, love for God's enemies, but not be afraid to pray that he would also shatter their teeth and arrest the progress of evil.

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Yeah, we can work in both categories or both lanes. I want to reach the Muslim people. I want them all to know

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Jesus. And I also want these guys that are raping women and beheading little babies to be erased from history.

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Sure, I want you to know Jesus. That goes without saying. I want you to know Jesus. But if you're not going to know Jesus, I'd like you to be erased.

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Right. As to not bring further condemnation on yourself, further condemnation on your people, a further disgrace on the image of God.

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Yeah, because what's the principle in Scripture? It's the principle of preservation of human life. Yes, right.

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And if you have a man that is like a wild beast that is just killing a lot of human beings. He won't be taught.

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He won't be restrained. He won't be restrained. Well, then you have to preserve human life. Exactly.

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End his life to preserve human life. Necessary category. Exactly. Okay, so here is the discussion before we get into the

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Great Tribulation discussion. Here's a discussion that needs to be had. I heard so many. I listened to so many sermons this last week of guys that were talking about this in their churches,

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Hamas and Israel and end -time stuff. And I cannot even recall how many times

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I heard pastors saying, I stand unequivocally with Israel.

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And I thought, I wouldn't say that about America. Right. Unequivocally, without equivocation?

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Well, because there's a certain theological commitment. Without a caveat? Right? Like, I stand with Israel in their defense of themselves, their national defense of themselves.

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I stand with them right now. You said, in this category, do you think that they should fight the terrorists and erase them? Oh, 100%.

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If you believe in self -defense. You better do the best job. Avoid the civilian casualties as much as you possibly humanly can.

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But you better do the best job for your nation as a government to make sure your military protects and preserves human life.

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I stand with you in that 100. And I hope we can offer as much support as we possibly can without doing unjust things ourselves.

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However... But if somebody says, I stand unequivocally with the nation of Israel, I'm going to say, be careful.

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Be careful. Because Jesus didn't do that. Jesus had condemning words to the leadership in Jerusalem in His day.

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The covenant -breaking Jews of His day. It wasn't unequivocal. He was challenging even their actions.

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So when you have a Christian pastor standing up before the people of God on a Sunday, on the Lord's Day, saying, I stand unequivocally with Israel, it's like, oh, whoa.

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I wouldn't say that about America. Like, right now, if you say, do you love being American? With all my heart.

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And are you grateful for this nation? With all my heart. I thank God for all the foundations of the Covenanters and the

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Puritans and the Huguenots that developed this nation and laid down the justice that we have.

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And the Christians, I thank God for this nation. I think America is the best nation in the history of the world in many respects.

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But I don't have unequivocal support for this nation because we've got dudes in dresses pretending to be the opposite sex.

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Like literally ordained by the government. We're far removed from our heritage. Exactly.

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Let's just leave it there. When you say unequivocal, it's like, I don't feel that way about my own nation because prophetically, we should confront the sins even of our own nation.

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It shouldn't be unequivocal support. Do you know what that means? Unequivocal, without equivocation, without caveat, without turning aside.

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So it's just a really strange thing to say that evangelicals are like, I stand with Israel unequivocally. It's like, guys, they are sinful people.

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Well, what comes on the end of that typically is this next statement, which is because they're God's people.

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Yes. Yeah. What I was going to say, even look at, okay, so hang gliding in over a homosexual rave and just mowing people down with AK -47s, highly unjust and immoral, right?

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Right. But Muslims do not tolerate homosexuality. Israel is very pro -homosexuality right now.

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So just to go to your point, if you're going to sit there and say that - Unequivocally.

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Yeah, exactly. Unequivocally? Yeah. Really? Can we say that about any nation in history?

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Without qualification? Without qualification at all? And you hear things like that and it just goes to show precisely what you landed on.

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Unequivocal support because they are God's chosen people. It's a theological commitment.

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That's right. Exactly right. And so we need to ask the question, is somebody who is physically descended today from Israel by blood, physically descended from Israel, who rejects the

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Christian message, rejects Jesus Christ as Messiah and Savior, hates the message of Jesus, spits on Christians in the streets of Israel, is that person

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God's chosen people? Are they truly Jewish?

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And look, it's an important question to ask because I - Look, put it all on a table. You're not hearing from people who just always opposed this idea.

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Luke was raised in this. Zach was raised in this. My whole Christian education and Bible college education was right in line with that.

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Those are God's chosen people. God's chosen people. God's chosen people over there. And we're sort of like the stepchildren.

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You know, like, so that's God's chosen and we're like this stepchild. Like, you know, yeah, we get all these blessings and stuff but they're really the apple of God's eye.

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Isaiah 65 has something to say about that. It sure does. It sure does. And so let's go to the

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Bible itself to ask the question, does the Bible give to us this idea that the modern evangelical has today in the

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West about the state of Israel today, the people in the land of Israel today, does it give us the idea that we have been raised with in evangelicalism?

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And I want to say no. No. I'll give you an example.

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We could do this for a long time. We'll go as long as we have to today. You're referring also just to the general idea, maybe sum it up as that God has two peoples, two plans in terms of his redemptive purposes in the world.

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Yeah. And so that's really the question that we are challenging. Yeah. And I'll go ahead and whet your appetite and give you the answer up front.

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I believe that there is an Israel of God and everybody who trusts in Jesus is a part of the true

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Israel of God. And that everyone who trusts in Jesus is truly a Jew. So I'm Jewish.

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Shalom. He's Jewish. He's Jewish. True Jews. Inwardly Jews.

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We've been grafted into the Israel of God. And so we don't believe in replacement theology of like the church replaced

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Israel. We believe there is a true Israel and anybody who's in Christ is in it. I believe that when

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God promised Abraham descendants as numerous as the stars, that I'm the fulfillment. I believe that I'm one of his descendants.

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That's right. Because of the Messiah. Yeah. And so I'll give you an example from an inspired apostle teaching exactly this.

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And we could do this over and over and over again. Verse 27 of Romans chapter 2, Paul's having a discussion about the uncircumcised and circumcised, who keeps the law, who doesn't keep the law.

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Great starting point. He says, then he who is physically uncircumcised but keeps the law will condemn you who have the written code and circumcision, but break the law.

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For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical, but a

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Jew is one inwardly and circumcision is a matter of the heart by the spirit, not by the letter.

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His praise is not from man, but from God. Can you get more explicit than that?

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Then the apostle Paul, a Jew himself saying, this isn't the real thing.

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This isn't where it's at outwardly. It's inwardly. And so the apostle Paul makes it explicit there is that you're not even truly

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Jewish because you are outwardly or physically Jewish. You have to be inwardly Jewish.

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It's a matter of the heart and you could be Gentile, physical, physical

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Gentile, and you could have the spirit of God indwelling you and circumcision to the heart and that's

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Paul saying, that's a true Jew. Wait, but he's not actually physically Jewish. No, but he's truly a child of Abraham.

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He's a descendant. That's true Israel right there. That's a true Jew. And so again, the challenge that I'm making is the typical evangelical in the

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West today that says, those are God's chosen people. I'm going to say they're

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God's chosen people who are spitting on Christians in the street. Let me just give that to you real fast.

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And by the way, I'm so sorry. Some of these are just, some of these are just in short form.

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So you're going to see my screen and it's not going to be blown up. So I apologize for that. But I can, guys, we can pull videos like this.

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Ad infinitum ad nauseum. I was just watching a video two weeks ago of a Christian missionary on the streets in Israel.

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And these Israeli boys were throwing rocks at her face, at a woman, for telling them about Jesus.

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So here's, yeah, here's an example of what happens oftentimes in Israel today with Christians.

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They're spitting. It's a common theme with the

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Orthodox. They'll spit towards Christians. So it's not unusual.

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Here's another example of some ultra Orthodox Jews caught on camera spitting towards Christian pilgrims.

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And, yeah, here you go. See them spit here.

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Even the children. The children. Another one here. Here's some

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Israelis telling evangelical Christians at the Western Wall to go home. So another one.

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Oh, let's see here. Here you go right here. There's a news story on this. I'm going to show you here just as much as I can of this. This is a

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Messianic congregation in Jerusalem, I believe. Here you go. Inside the

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King of Kings congregation, an audience listened to a concert of Hebrew worship songs.

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But outside, something else was going on. 30 to 40 religious men had gathered and they started harassing our people as they were trying to enter into worship, blowing whistles, trying to drown out the sound of worship.

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And that alerted the first wave of the SWAT team from the police that came out.

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The Messianic Jewish Alliance of Israel hosted the concert at the King of Kings community facility, one of the largest congregations in Jerusalem for Christians and Messianic Jews.

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Senior Pastor Chad Holland told CBN News a mob of protesters outside the facility's lobby attacked men, women, and children trying to attend the concert.

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They started by screaming, pushing. Several people were hit. Some were cut in the face. They broke glass.

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They damaged property. They were kicking. They were hitting. They were cornering people. They pushed several up against the wall.

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They pushed down several women as well. They threw water bottles. They spit on a lot of people. And in the end, they started spraying pepper spray.

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Some of the protesters held a sign. All right. Latent hostility, would you say? Towards Christians. Same people that said, give us

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Barabbas. Yep. So... I was thinking of the... Yeah, there were some echoes of that, you know, when you're thinking about what happened.

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Nothing is being said here in any way whatsoever to have you thinking derogatory thoughts towards people in Israel today.

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Right, of course. This is to suggest that actually we should see those who are physically

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Israel today as not true Jews and needing to be true Jews, needing to come to the

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Jewish Messiah. What I'm saying is that we should see the state of Israel today as a mission field. We shouldn't be saying to you, you're the chosen people of God.

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You're good to go. We should be saying, no, nobody is the chosen person of God who rejects Jesus Christ as Savior.

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Because that's what they were relying on in the passage that you quoted. We have Abraham as our father. We have

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Abraham as our father. God can raise up from these stones heirs of Abraham. Oh, so rocks can be

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Jews. Rocks can be Jews. You see the point? I mean, how much of Scripture needs to be brought to bear on this before we're finally corrected as evangelical

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Christians in the West. Stop calling somebody who rejects with rabid hostility the message of Jesus.

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Stop calling them the chosen person of God. Stop doing it. Scripture doesn't do that.

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Paul explicitly says, outwardly, no. That's not what makes you a Jew. It's an inward thing.

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It's of the heart. And God can do that to Gentiles. God can do that to rocks. That is the message of the

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New Testament from Jewish people. Don't forget that. These are people who are physically Jewish who are saying, that's not what makes you

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Jewish. If you want to make a child of Abraham, he'll do it to rocks. He'll do it to rocks. He'll do it to Gentiles.

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There is a true Israel today, an Israel of God. It's comprised of both Jews and Gentiles.

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And so we have to ask the question, should we be calling somebody who's spitting on the gospel that is physically

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Jewish, should we be calling them the chosen person of God? Because they are physically descended from David.

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The New Testament doesn't do that. The New Testament opposes that perspective. And so I think there needs to be a correction in terms of, well, we need to be thinking about the state of Israel today as a mission field, and Jesus is going to win them, of course,

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I believe, in a complete conversion of the Jewish people to Christ. But in the state that they're at today, like Luke brings up, in terms of the state of Israel and the homosexuality and the immorality and the transgenderism and the evil and the spitting on Christians in the street and all that stuff, we need to think about it rightly and biblically and start saying, no, no, we just need to see them as the mission field and the

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Muslims and the Mormons and every other nation. That's what we need to be doing. And so more on this.

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Yes, please. Romans chapter 2 was where we just were. I encourage you all to please just go read that.

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Just read it in its context and Paul's whole discussion there about having the Torah, having the Word of God, but not doing what it says.

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And there are people who actually aren't physically Jewish, but they do the things of the law. Sounds like Gentile Christians to me.

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And he's saying, you're a Jew inwardly, not outwardly. But then you get into the further discussions of like Romans chapter 9, and that's verse 6.

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Powerful section there, actually. I'll read from verse 1.

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He says, I am speaking the truth in Christ. I am not lying. My conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart.

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I'm arguing for that for the State of Israel today. That. That's what I'm arguing for.

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Love. That love, that sorrow, and unceasing anguish in his heart. I'm saying Christians should have that for the

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Jews because they don't know Jesus. That's the point. And so he says,

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For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen, according to the flesh.

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They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the

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Messiah who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. There's a deity of Christ right there, Romans 9. Just a bonus.

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But it is not as though the word of God has failed, for not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.

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And not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but through Isaac shall your offspring be named.

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This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.

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What are we doing? Striking clarity. What are we doing? Christians, what are we doing when we say things like,

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I stand unequivocally because they're the chosen people of God? It's like Paul's arguing explicitly against that idea.

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He's arguing, yes, yes, physically, descended to them. They were entrusted with the oracles of God, he says in Romans 3.

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They were entrusted with God's own word. It is not that they're descended and Jesus came from the

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Jewish people. He's the Jewish Messiah, but his whole point there is not all are

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Israel who are descended from Israel. So there's a true Israel, a spiritual

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Israel, the true Israel, and then there are those who are Israel physically, but not truly

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Israel. And that's Paul's whole argument. So when we start going, no, no, no, Paul will throw that away and just say that those over there who reject

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Jesus as Messiah, they will not be They will not have him rule over them. They, they hate the message of Jesus. They are truly

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Israel? Paul explicitly argues against that idea. That's not true. You Gentile out there who is not descended from Israel physically, you are the true

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Jew. You are the descendant of Abraham. You are, like for real, fully, completely, totally, truly

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Israel. You are the true Jew. That's the argument of the scriptures. You're like, well, wait a minute,

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I'm Gentile. I've got pagan parents and ancestors. Yeah, isn't that amazing how God, who you were once far off, Ephesians 2, has brought you near, right?

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And you were once a stranger to the commonwealth of Israel, right? And, and all these promises were, were, were, you were outside of all of them.

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Now God has brought you near and those covenants plural of the promise singular are now yours.

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But you're Gentile and not physically Jewish. That's the argument of the scriptures. That's where my mind is going, to that passage.

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Go for it. What you just said. Yeah. About preaching peace to you who are far off and peace to those who are near.

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For through him we both have access in one spirit to the Father. Talking about Jew and Gentile because that dividing wall, that partition between the communities has been broken down in Christ.

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He's abolished the law of ordinances and commandments that kept the communities separate. Now they come together.

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They're brought together by the spirit. And then here's the part you were quoting. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets.

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Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone and this is really one of the clinchers I think right here in whom the whole structure being joined together grows into a holy temple in the

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Lord. So we're not talking about a geographical location somewhere. We're talking about what

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Jesus was alluding to when he condemned unbelieving covenant breaking Israel. A complete dislocation and a transference of the locus and center of God's people not too tied to a geographical location but embodied in the temple of the

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Holy Spirit who is the Christian believer who is a mobile tabernacle for the Lord Jesus who is indwelled by the spirit of God and God is actually taking the living stones and building them together 1

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Peter chapter 2 and he is indwelling that structure this body of Christ by his presence.

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That true temple that we're a part of all of us indwell God now dwells with his people. And he calls us he calls us in 1

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Peter 2 a chosen race a royal priesthood that's Exodus. Christians? That's Exodus language.

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He calls Christians that. Exodus 19. But wait isn't that the temple that needs to be rebuilt? Sorry. We can get to that.

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One at a time. But it's so big that language I love when you I just say one more thing about this.

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When God takes language he only speaks about Israel and he applies it to Gentiles.

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He says you're God's chosen rejects. That's what God says through Peter.

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He says you're chosen by God. You're loved. You're called. Royal priesthood.

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Who's the chosen? Who's the called? In the older testament. You would say Israel. It's Israel. Who's the royal priesthood?

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Who did God call as his royal priesthood to be a light for the nations? Yeah. And now he's saying about New Testament Christians who do not trace their ancestry to Abraham.

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Yeah. Chosen, called, loved, royal priesthood. He's taken the exactly those titles that were for Israelites, Jews, and now it's being applied like peanut butter across Jews and Gentiles.

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Yeah. He says in Hebrews you've come to the heavenly Jerusalem.

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Oh yes. You belong to the Jerusalem from above. Yeah. And by the way, speaking about Jerusalem, physical

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Jerusalem, physical temple like Luke brings in, can we just go ahead and put this on record? Every Christian who loves

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Jesus, who loves the fact that God has dealt with our sin in the perfect sacrifice once for all, forever, able to perfect those who draw near to God through him, it's forever.

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It's an end. It's a finished sacrifice. Every Christian who believes that about Jesus, that he was that perfect sacrifice that satisfies the wrath of God should be horrified, horrified, and resist any attempt to build another temple.

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And what's amazing is that we have had such a foreign perspective here about the chosen people of God, Israel, and all these things that there are

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Christians who actually support and encourage and want the Jews to be able to rebuild their temple.

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Do you know what... And re -institute animal sacrifice. Exactly. Do you know what an affront to the face of Almighty God and to our

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Messiah that would be? To rebuild the temple, the physical temple, and to re -institute animal sacrifices in that old priesthood would be literally defying

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Jesus Christ, saying we reject you as the atonement and the sacrifice that God had promised.

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And so every Christian who is like, they're going to build the third temple, they're going to build the temple, we're about to build the temple, we should be horrified.

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We should be using it as a point of evangelism. No, no, stop. Don't build that earthly temple again.

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We have a heavenly city. We have a heavenly temple. You can be a part of God now dwelling with his people. That sacrifice is finished.

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Don't re -institute the animal sacrifices, the blood sacrifices of the animals, the blood of bulls and goats could never take away sins.

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It was completed in Jesus. And we actually have evangelical Christians that are excited about the third temple.

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You're just quoting the book of Hebrews. Yeah. In which the author tells his people, he actually goes to great lengths to say, hey, there's temptation to go back, but don't go back.

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Yeah. Because it's on the verge of being overthrown. And all this pressure that you're facing externally to conform, familial pressure, societal pressure, to go back and renounce your

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Messiah, don't go back. There's nothing to go back to. It's at the edge of being completely overthrown, and it's going to be destroyed.

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Right? It's significant that the New Testament never references the destruction of the temple. Yeah. Because it has not yet occurred in the minds of the authors.

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Right. Because such a destruction would have been completely upending. It would have signaled a new creation, if you will, because the temple is at the center of what it meant to be

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Jewish, what it meant to worship God, what it meant to belong to the covenant people. He even refers, when he comes into the covenant with Israel, in establishing that as creating the heavens and the earth, as a creation itself.

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A new creation. Yeah. Right? That's what Jesus came to bring and to do, is to make a new, make new creatures.

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A heavenly Jerusalem. And so, the Lord Jesus, who is the perfect Jew, the perfect Israelite, the perfect servant of God, what

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Israel's vocation was, was to be the servant of God, but they failed in that vocation. And a light for the nations.

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They sinned in that vocation, that call. And Jesus is the true servant that's prophesied in Isaiah 53.

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He's what Israel was supposed to be, but failed to be. And so, Israel, Jesus is truly an Israelite.

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Jesus is truly Jewish, descended from David. He fulfills all those promises. Jesus says, in Revelation chapter 3, in verse 8, he says,

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I know your works, when he's speaking to the church in Philadelphia. He says, I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut.

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I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.

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Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are

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Jews and are not, but lie. Behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.

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Now, so for Jesus here, these are the words of the Lord. For Jesus here in Revelation chapter 3, he's dealing with seven churches who were dealing with a lot of difficulties, false doctrine, persecution, and in some cases, you actually have throughout the book of Revelation, you have hostility and persecution coming from Rome, the beast, and you also have hostility and persecution coming from Jewish people in the book of Revelation.

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And Jesus says about these Jewish people persecuting the early Christians, he says, they say they're

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Jews. They're not. They lie. They're a synagogue of Satan. So for Jesus in his mind, he could say to a person who is physically

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Jewish, you're not a Jew. You're lying. You're not Jewish. You're a synagogue of Satan.

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So Jesus has the category for a person who was physically descended from Israel who is not actually in Christ as not truly

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Jewish. And so would Jesus say to that person who is not truly Jewish, I offer you unequivocal support as a

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Jew, like or, no, you're truly Jewish. He says, no, you're not actually

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Jewish. Not inwardly. You're actually a synagogue of Satan. Would Jesus call somebody the chosen person of God who rejects him as Messiah?

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No. Unequivocally, no. I can say that. And so I'll let you guys jump in before we go.

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I was just gonna say, we're running out of time here. We hardly got anything accomplished. Thank you for the super chats.

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They're coming in like crazy. So we'll get to those here in a few minutes. Just wanted to mention that. Yeah, thank you guys. So more could be brought out here.

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A lot. A lot more. But let's just look at, let's do

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Romans 11. If you guys... Somebody mentioned that on the chat. Yeah, Romans chapter 11 is an important one.

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It's all in the same essential discourse and discussion that Paul's been having about Israel and God's predestining and the true people of God.

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That whole discussion in Romans chapter 11 starts in verse 11, and it talks about Gentiles and Israelites, Jews.

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He says in verse 11, So I ask, Did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means.

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Rather, through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Now, if their trespass means riches for the world and if their failure means riches for the

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Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean? Now, I am speaking to you Gentiles and as much then as I am an apostle to the

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Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous and thus save some of them.

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For if their rejection means reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches.

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But, if some of the branches are broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches.

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If you are, remember it is not you who support the root but the root that supports you, and then you will say branches were broken off so that might be grafted in.

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That's true. They were broken off because of their unbelief but you stand fast through faith so do not become proud but fear.

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So the point is, is... It's the same root feeding us. Right, the point is, is that Paul's saying like you were grafted into this, not replaced it, you were grafted into this.

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Israel, the true Israel of God. He just argued that you're not truly Israel if you reject Jesus as Messiah.

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So he has this portrait in his mind of like there's this true olive tree, there's true Israel, and you Gentiles, you were grafted into this thing, right?

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You were grafted in wild but now you're in this thing. And so don't be arrogant to the ones that were cut off, these physical

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Jews who reject Jesus, their transgression, he cuts them off. Like you're part of this real tree now.

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You're in it. God did that for you. Don't be arrogant about it but God has this tree of the people of God and you were put into it, right?

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Yeah, those people over there, physical Jews, cut off, yeah, their sin, it means life for the world. But don't be arrogant. You were grafted into this thing.

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But what's this thing? It's the true people of God. So people say like, oh, you don't think they're the chosen people of God so you believe like replacement theology, the church replaces

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Israel. What? I can't stand that language. I can't stand it because it doesn't have anything to do with replacing

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Israel. It has to do with there's one covenant people of God throughout history and the church is merely the continuation of that and the internationalizing of God's promises to bring about his kingdom to the ends of the earth.

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Yes. Like we're talking about a gospel explosion here that I think the apostle Paul goes on to say will lead to the mass conversion of the ethnic

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Jewish people which in turn will lead to the subduing of even more Gentile nations too. That's right. I think that there is a pattern there of world conquest and so it's not about replacing, it's about all of us being engrafted into the same vine, key language there, garden, vine, tree and we're all being fed by the same root and that root is

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Jesus Christ with the seed of eternal life. I believe in a grafting theology, not a replacement one, grafting theology.

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I like that. And so I think that's clear enough. It is interesting in Galatians the apostle

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Paul is dealing of course with the Galatian heresy, the Judaizers who are trying to say okay, yeah,

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Jesus is great, Jesus is the Messiah but you've got to at least keep the sign of the covenant, Jewish circumcision, at least keep that one part of the law and Paul says anybody teaching that is anathema, accursed by God and he condemns that, it's faith apart from any work of law.

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Even this one thing you're trying to add of just keep the circumcision, he says you do that, Christ has become of no benefit to you, whosoever of you attempts to be justified by law you've fallen from grace.

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So it's either grace, faith, or it's law. Paul says pick. That's Galatians 5.

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In Galatians 6 as he's finishing this, remember now, this is conflict between Jew and Gentile in the early church, right?

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Like how much of the Jewishness do we need to keep? Like circumcision, at least that identifying mark for these

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Gentile converts, at least that and Paul's arguing so forcefully against that. He's like these guys over here in Galatians 5 that like love to play with knives,

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I'm paraphrasing here, I hope they go ahead and cut themselves off. Right? Like you guys want to use knives, go ahead and cut yourselves off.

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So pretty strong words from the Apostle Paul there. But it's interesting as he finishes Galatians dealing with this entire conflict, very short letter, he says in verse 11,

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See with what large letters I am writing to you with my own hand, it is those who want to make a good showing in the flesh who would force you to be circumcised and only in order that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ for even those who are circumcised do not themselves keep the law.

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He said that in Romans 2. But they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh but far be it for me to boast except in the cross of our

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Lord Jesus Christ by which the world has been crucified to me and I to the world. For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision but a new creation.

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And as for all who walk by this rule, Jews and Gentiles, peace and mercy be upon them and upon the

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Israel of God. Huh. That's interesting. That is very interesting that the

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Apostle Paul can use that kind of language as he's talking about the Jew and Gentile issue and what matters is new creation.

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Jews and Gentiles together in one body, one new creation. And it's interesting he uses the language of the

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Israel of God. Gentiles also? Gentiles also. What's crazy is you look at that passage you just read and you read the footnotes.

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All the verses are the ones that you've already gone over. Romans 2. Romans 9.

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Philippians 3. What does Paul say? For we are the circumcision who worship by the

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Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh. So who is?

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Gentile Christians? Yes. And Jewish believers. Anyone who the

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Messiah is Lord for. Anyone who has bowed the knee to Jesus. Right. You're the circumcision.

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Yes. Welcome. Welcome to the family. True Jews. True Israel. Yes. True covenant people of God. And how do you know it?

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Where do they profess? Faith. In Jesus. They're part of the new creation. And so obviously a very important discussion.

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We haven't even touched yet the Great Tribulation. But I would like to do it because you're all here. Go ahead. Let's do it. Let's squeeze it in. I know

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Luke has to leave. I have an appointment five minutes ago. Luke has to leave. I have to take a bathroom break.

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There's a lot of you watching right now and I know you're just chomping at the bit to get into the Great Tribulation discussions which

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I want to do. So Luke's got something he's got to do. If you would, Luke, could you do the thing for The thing for the thing?

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Yeah, the thing for the thing. The thing. Yes. And do you want to just take like a two minute break?

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Sure. So we'll do. Luke has something to say to you guys. We're going to do a two minute break. When we come back we're going to talk about does the conflict with Hamas and Israel have anything to do with the

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Great Tribulation described by the Lord Jesus? And so we're going to have Luke talk to you for a second. Take a two minute break.

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Absolutely. All right guys so we are going to do the Great Tribulation discussion as soon as we come back from a short break.

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Don't go anywhere. Very important discussion is the conflict between Hamas and Israel today or Hezbollah or Iran.

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Does it have anything to do with the Great Tribulation that Jesus talked about in the Olivet Discourse Matthew 24 Luke 21

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Mark 13. We're going to answer that question and go through the text with you when we come back. Thank you for watching.