My First Rebuttal Period Against Jalal Abualrub
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Here is a portion of my first rebuttal against Jalal Abualrub, and in defense of the deity of Christ.
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- I simply call my opponent to be much prouder of that. I'd like to turn your attention to a horrific, out of context citation where a verse was cut in half so that it's actual teaching was robbed from you.
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- 1 Corinthians 8 verse 6. But to us there is but one God. That's all you got.
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- I saw this happen with the babes a few weeks ago. I do not understand this. I would never do this to the
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- Quran. Because all someone has to do is go, could you read the rest of the verse please? Because 1 Corinthians 8 verse 6 says, but to us there is but one
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- God. From whom are all things, and we unto him, and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.
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- This is Paul's restatement of the great schmaw of the Old Testament. Filling it in in Christian revelation with Jesus Christ being the creator of all things.
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- How can you quote only part of a verse when the rest of it teaches the deity of Christ? I cannot begin to comprehend this.
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- We're told that every single word of what I said has been disputed. By whom? If I were to get up here and start quoting
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- Shiites and Druze and every other off center group of Muslims and say, ah, everything he says is disputed.
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- Could we ever accomplish anything? If you're going to say it's been disputed, please name by whom so we can examine the sources and have a scholarly debate.
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- We're asked if any Old Testament prophets speak as a Christian speaks. Of course not. What did I say in my opening statement?
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- The revelation of the doctrine of the Trinity and the deity of Christ takes place when? In the incarnation of Jesus Christ.
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- When did that happen? After all the Old Testament prophets. It takes place between the Old Testament and the
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- New Testament. That's why the New Testament writers then take all those words about God in the Old Testament and apply them to Jesus in the
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- New. We're told Jesus did not speak Greek. Really? Almost everybody in that land did. You had to because that's what the
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- Roman soldiers spoke and you better know what they were telling you to do. He said he cited major encyclopedias.
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- Folks, this is a debate that's supposed to be a scholarly debate. I'm a teacher. I do not allow my students to quote the
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- Encyclopedia Britannica in a scholarly paper. You go to true scholarship.
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- When I study Islam, I have spent I don't know how much money to obtain their best materials.
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- Why are we quoting Internet encyclopedias this evening? We're told in Numbers 23 19 says
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- God is not a man. Of course not. It is not our claim that God has eternally been a man. It is our claim that the eternal
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- God who created all things entered into his own creation. I want to ask a question of my opponent this evening.
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- Will you stand before us and say it is beyond the power of a law to enter into that which he created?
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- Will you say that? Yes or no? Are you going to? Then we were scolded in the last debate for anyone daring to talk about the
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- Quran who doesn't know Arabic. But everything I brought up in regards to the text of the
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- New Testament was dismissed by saying well I don't read Greek. Take it up with the people and I'll cite it. Can you imagine if we were having a debate on the
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- Quran? And I got up here and I made a bunch of basic errors in regards to the nature of the
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- Quran. I miscited it. I mistranslated it. I went against all the major Islamic translations of the
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- Quran and I said hey I found that in your guys' books. Don't talk to me. I don't read Arabic. How scholarly would that be?
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- I don't understand that. I can open up the Quran here sir. And I'm taking the time to be able to realize that this tells me.
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- He neither begets nor is he begotten. Correct? Yes. I'm taking time to go this is what it says.
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- And I can go here and I can go to Hebrew and I can see Yalad is the same root. And that comes out in Isaiah 9 6 which says to us a son is given a child is born.
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- A Yalad. That was written 1300 years before this. Why do I believe this comes 1300 years later?
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- We were told for example over and over again that the word that us is used is
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- Satan. 2 Corinthians 4 .4. Actually a good friend of mine Don Hartley has written an excellent thesis where he disputes that actually about Satan.
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- But even if it was that is irrelevant. Words only have meaning in a given context. And the context of John 1 has nothing to do with Satan.
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- Every time you hear it brought up they ask him to use it that way. It is a red herring. We were told that looking at monogamy meaning unique is a trick.
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- No that's called translating the Greek language accurately in accordance with the best scholarship that is available today.
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- We were told that these words were written by people who never knew Jesus. Prove it. I can simply say to you everything in the
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- Quran has nothing to do with monogamy. Prove it. You can't just make overarching statements like this and not back it up with serious argumentation.
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- He said that stuff I got about Constantine I got from their books. He didn't get it from mine. And he didn't get it from any serious historical work because it is just false.
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- If you are going to say Constantine forced the trade of young Christianity then go back and prove it. I can prove he didn't.