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I'm hanging in there. Yeah, I'm kind of I'm kind of a Frustrated with just the stupidity. Yeah of this quarantine stuff. Yeah, making it really difficult to get anything.

Don't people are getting quickly to the breaking point. Yeah, I'm saying we were like, all right, you know two weeks three weeks. Yeah, okay not being able to really go anywhere and do anything and then also seeing the impact that it's having on our neighbors.

It's officially over 20 million Unemployed are filing for unemployment right now and those numbers. I think those are Drastically off because that's not taking into consideration the people that aren't filing for unemployment yet.

Or they just had their hours cut, you know, you got to also take this in consideration, you know. Whatever you think about the issue if they're human beings and image bearers of God that are here right now.

You also have many people who are here illegally. True right and they have families. They're here again. This isn't a conversation about whether they should be here. That's not the conversation. It's just image bearers of God that are here who are impacted by this that aren't right in that system.

They're not letting you know, so I think the numbers are much higher than that and it's gonna continue onward.

Are you saying that the gas station on Chandler Boulevard has had a lot of men standing up recently? That one which one. Circle K that's all the day workers, you know where you go get the day workers on.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes are not Chandler. Sorry. In Arizona, Arizona. Yeah.

Yes. Okay. I was a Chandler. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It's uh, I've got messages from friends from Particularly across the United States of America, but also globally talking about how they've lost their jobs.

I got actually a really sad message from somebody that was in Africa that is stuck in their home right now. Quarantines. They've quarantined the entire building. These people can't get out even to get food right now.

Just there's believers. They're really struggling. I mean just how we're gonna get food.

Yeah.

I mean because they're quarantined to the degree that they weren't even allowed out to do that sort of a thing. So getting access to somebody to go get you food and bring it there I mean just tough tough situations and you're even seeing things happening right now, but Michigan was in Michigan a huge protest.

Forming a lot of people coming in. I believe it was Michigan and maybe somebody on the feed can correct me on that one. So things are starting to take place in terms of people saying wait, wait a tick the numbers aren't what you said and We deal with this sort of thing all the time and we're not destroying the global economy or my family in business to do it.

And so what gives people are asking those questions and we ought to care about those people because they are also our neighbors. We need to love and that of course is not ignoring the fact that we have to take this virus seriously and protect one another.

But we're encouraging balance right balance perspective love for neighbor that is going across the board to everybody. So With that today a very exciting episode we're doing today today. We are actually going to do some epic debate moments.

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You got something I was gonna say. We're getting all manner of questions right now coming in.

All over the board. I'm so sorry guys everyone watching on YouTube live right now. We actually asked the questions yesterday. It's there's a ton over there's like hundreds I think between my thing and then the Apology of Studios.

I'll see what I can do. Maybe we'll just do this again next time. Let's see here quickly tattoos. Yes. Yeah, what are your letters? No? Yeah, what are your thoughts on tattoos? Well, I don't know I guess I just for fun.

I'll answer that one quickly. What are your thoughts on tattoos? Body art that you see right here isn't what's being referred to in the book of Leviticus. Oftentimes people will apply the passage that's seen in the book of Leviticus.

And they'll say cutting or marking your body that is forbidden and so that those are those are sinful. I just want to say when you do an historical analysis. Which we should always be doing when we're reading the Word of God not taking our Current circumstances or perspectives or thoughts and just forcing them into the text.

So in placing them over that's called eisegesis. But we take an historical analysis of the text the passage on tattoos about cutting or marking your body it's specifically in reference for the dead and there is a well there is and there was a very Pagan practice of ancestor worship and that's cutting or marking your body as a form of ancestor worship.

It does still take place in the world today. It does it was court, of course ancient and it's also of course modern. And the cutting or marking your body for the dead that's referred to there is in reference to That sort of pagan cult practice of Ancestor worship and when you're looking at things like this today, it has nothing to do with ancestor worship.

Cutting or marking your body for the ancestors of sorts of things really you do see a lot of warnings in the law of God In the Torah against this kind of syncretism and that's adopting the practices the worship Practices and the lifestyle practices of the pagan culture around about them.

But this one specifically is related to Ancestor worship and has nothing to do with modern body art and it's interesting if you look in the book of Revelation. It appears that Jesus in the book of Revelation has a tattoo on his thigh.

So it's it's interesting. Yeah. And by the way, not literal, but if it was a sinful thing. So to have body art then why is he being described in the book of Revelation as having something on his thigh a mark?

On his thigh. So what you're saying is we should take the entire book of Revelation literally. Well.

No. But that's the point is is if it's an abomination or simple thing to have any kind of body art or marking on your body. Then why is it described of Jesus in the book of Revelation? Again, there's a lot of symbolism going on there, but you don't take a sinful symbol and place it on the body of Jesus.

So that was at least an answer to what's going on in the chat right now. I encourage you guys again to go to apologiestudios .com to get more. I wanted to start with this just because I think it's important and it might be helpful for everybody who's just you know In quarantine right now, especially for our brothers and sisters that are in, California right now.

This is from a day ago California governor Newsom outlines six steps for reopening the state. Now many of you guys will Remember that California was one of those first states that was, you know fast mover right and coronavirus COVID -19.

Shut down, San Francisco. I mean, that's one of the first things I saw was Washington, San Francisco. And San Francisco was like look, what was it two or three week quarantine? It was like shutting the city down Quarantine it was like wow big drastic step there.

And then of course it just started falling like dominoes across the United States of America but California has taken some drastic measures and Has a shelter-in-place order stay-at-home order. You've seen people who are out paddleboarding out in the ocean by themselves being ticketed or cited or arrested for paddleboarding on the ocean.

That's a significant social distance right there. So, I mean there's some been some drastic measures. My concern is for Californians.

Who.

Are struggling with how am I gonna feed my family right now? That's a normal. That's a normal concern for California.

It is right. It is. No, I know it's weird because one of the things I was thinking Luke was San Francisco is so dang expensive. Yeah, I mean, it's it's intense intense. Just go look up some documentary videos or videos on YouTube or wherever you get your video stuff from on San Francisco like rent San Francisco rent prices.

People have done like stuff like walkthroughs of their apartment. They're like, hey I pay.

$3 ,000 a month or whatever and it's like it's a tiny little studio. Is that why there's so many so much feces on the ground.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, they get the homeless issue in in San Francisco. And yeah, I guess people be pooping. I Guess.

There's a isn't there a poop map. It's called snap crap snap crap, and it's pretty awesome. Actually, I saw a video on it. You can like if you find a pile you mark it and it goes up on the app. Yeah, San Francisco, right?

Yeah, and so basically like the entire city's just brown. It's got like little brown poop emojis. Oh, no kidding. Like the whole city. Wow said well.

So so with with that. So there was already problems to begin with apparently but now we were being thrust into more problems.

And.

So if you guys have been tracking with us over the last couple of weeks if you listen to the messages we've given an Apology at church or if you listen to apology or radio or if you listen to pastor James on the dividing line You've heard some of what were our concerns are and that is just in terms of the impact this has on Our neighbors and our children in our future.

We need to show consideration and love for those people and those issues as well. And so governor Newsom outlined six steps for reopening the state and I wanted you guys all to hear that because I think is.

Actually.

Very interesting. We're talking about people who need to eat and work today and there are six steps. He says yesterday for reopening.

The most important framework is our capacity to expand our testing to Appropriately address the tracing and tracking of individuals the isolation and the quarantine of individuals using technology and Using a workforce that needs to be trained in an infrastructure that needs to be in place.

In order to begin the process to transition I'll talk more about that and we'll be more prescriptive in terms of what that looks like. The second phase is Maintaining our vigilant on protecting the most vulnerable populations in the state of California from infection and spread primarily our seniors those with immune order issues and specific strategies and interventions around addressing the needs of our homeless as examples of addressing those vulnerable populations as a top priority.

Number three is Addressing again the ongoing needs of our hospital and alternative care delivery system to meet the needs of potential surges as We adopt new strategies as we now. This is something you see a lot.

Isaac leave that up for a second here. So everyone can see that this happens a lot when you see the major media talking about coronavirus and kovat 19. They will show numbers like this from John Hopkins updated April 14 2020 and it'll show countries with the most cases and you'll see United States is Leading the world in most cases five hundred ninety seven thousand eight hundred twenty five Cases of coronavirus and then you're moving your way down to see Italy Germany France United Kingdom and all the rest.

Well, I'm gonna just speak to that for a second. It's interesting because when you look at this This number here you're thinking myself. Oh my goodness. This is a serious it by the way this serious, but this is like catastrophic Pandemic look America has the most right now globally but actually when you look at this in the context of the size of your country and numbers of people that it's impacting United States actually would be lower on the list in terms of percentage and mortality and those sorts of things and so it's I just I'm amazed at how the national media will play with the numbers in this way by you know Making it look a certain way.

But when you actually put it in context it you see oh, oh, wait a second. It's it's not quite the. It's not it's not the black plague or black death. It's not close. So it's not quite what they're trying to demonstrate here.

The numbers actually have remained pretty consistent in terms of like the mortality rate of coronavirus like 1 and lower. You're not even taking into consideration the fact that it's demonstratable and it's it's admitted to that you have people being deemed a death from Coronavirus that didn't necessarily die from coronavirus.

It's just sort of being said We'll just call that one a coronavirus death.

It's like wait a second. You can't do that because that's gonna mess the numbers up when you look at the the numbers of heart disease and Diabetes and all these other things that normally kill people.

Why have those numbers plummeted? So so drastically interesting.

Yeah, yeah, so you have the fudging of the numbers with people being scored as a coronavirus death. Who didn't actually die from coronavirus and then you have the fact that many many people and this is demonstratable.

You can you can show this many many people have pointed out that coronavirus is actually here much earlier than we were suggesting. Or we understood and a lot of people have had coronavirus or have Coronavirus that did not report or are not reporting.

So in terms of the mortality numbers when you put all that together, it actually lowers The number in in terms of the mortality aspect of this and people might be saying are you just trying to minimize this?

My answer is no no attempt at minimization at all. It's just a question of wisdom for the government how do you manage a Viral crisis in an appropriate way that is not heavy-handed and not Destructive.

You don't want the cure to be worse than the disease. Nobody wants that I suppose right if I hope so and so you have to ask the question with real numbers and real wisdom because You it's something that Tucker brings up on his interview with the New Jersey governor.

You know, you you've got on record more people dying from the flu. Why do you take these steps for that and there's really no answer to that and it's again, please hear it in categories. It's not comparing COVID -19 to the flu saying it's the flu.

It's just saying the numbers of mortality Have to be compared. Yeah, you've got to do that aspect because you have people dying from the seasonal flu by the way with a vaccine. Yeah, isn't that interesting?

Yeah, more people dying of the flu with a vaccine available. You've got to compare mortality rates and numbers and put them aside by side and say, okay. Are we actually handling this appropriately? And how do we get people to not starve to death?

That's that's all so a little bit more from the governor.

Listen the stay-at-home orders ultimately and eventually the prospect of increased infections and spreads. We need to make sure that that infrastructure is protected and to make sure that those assets are well prepared PPE not just again the masks and ventilators and gowns and shields, but also Making sure that we have a myriad of other protective gear for that workforce and to make sure that we're capable from an ICU perspective and hospitalization perspective to meet any additional surges.

The fourth frame is to continue the work that we've been doing on a weekly basis and that is to engage academia. To engage our research partners to engage those that are on the front lines and they happen disproportionately.

To be here in California companies like Gilead companies like Genentech credible operations of support that are coming from our hospital systems UC's Stanford USC's scripts and others including our national labs to make sure that we're really advancing and continuing to promote more protocols on Therapeutics which are profoundly important as we bridge ultimately Towards the herd immunity and the vaccine within.

We hope the next year or so.

Sorry. It's not what you think. It's allergies. Year away from a vaccine. That's interesting. I've even seen this that's crazy. Well, I've even seen the talk Regarding the vaccine talking about reopening states when the vaccine is available and you're like, wait, wait.

Yeah, there's a year from now. Yeah, it's insane. You're talking about like desolation. It's gonna be like Mad Max beyond the Thunderdome. It's gonna be intense. It won't be possible and people won't.

People won't tolerate it at least in the United States. They won't. I can see riots forming over something like that waiting that long.

Number five is the incredible importance of redrawing our floor plans and that is quite literally a Responsibility if we are moving into a next phase of our businesses. So that we can practice safe physical distancing within the premise of a business within and around a school site.

And facilities large and small public and private all throughout the state of California. So quite literal strategies guidelines and Expectations on what physical distancing would look like within those facilities not just broadly out on the streets our parks Playgrounds and in our coastlines.

And finally our capacity always to turn on that faucet again and reinstate more vigorous controls. And that's just a Process that will perhaps be the most challenging if indeed we lean in. But we have to then lean back out as we toggle.

From stricter to looser interventions back and forth.

So a lot there and Just wanted to play that so everyone can kind of hear what is being said in terms of reopening and how things are gonna be Restructured. I just want to point out I think it's important to point out that one of the things that our government and well governments in general tend to forget this.

Well, unless you're a complete Marxist society or communist society that it just maybe assumed a different direction. But they seem to forget that the like for example United States of America is a constitutional republic system.

That's what it's supposed to be a constitutional republic. And so we are not in the United States of America subjects we are citizens and We are the ones through Industry through the marketplace through Working and laboring with our hands and creating technologies and businesses and markets and all the rest.

We are the ones providing the funding and life to the government system and what seems to be forgotten say in California and some of these other states is that there is no government's funding without the private sector and the sit the citizens Actually producing so there is such a thing as government.

Yeah, right. There's no government's without money and money does isn't created by the government money is created by the citizenry. We create industry the marketplace and money and money is supposed to go voluntarily Voluntarily from us to fund a government that is functioning for the purposes of justice and protecting the righteous.

But they just seem to forget this that there there is no position for governor without the marketplace. Feeding that so if you if you choke off the life that funds government eventually there is no government unless of course it becomes totalitarian and Essentially says well now you're all subjects and we will own Everything and there is no private property see the difference you see the difference and you see you see you're seeing the pressure now being applied that could lead to a more communist version of The United States of America, right because that you got to ask those deep questions because that's a different system altogether.

No private property the government owned. It's everything is owned really not by you but by the government and they control everything and so they think well This is all ours. Nobody owns any private property, but the United States of America was essentially It was born out of a Christian view of reality and life and justice and finances and all the rest and governments and so there's a different view of how government should work and it's supposed to be the citizens that form the government and ultimately really are in charge of This whole thing because it's a government by the people for the people you get it big difference by the way We form the government's right by the people for the people but communism doesn't think that way.

But it seems like a lot of these governors are forgetting how all this is supposed to work here, right? It's us that make your job. Not you giving us the right to have a job you work for us my friend, did you see the.

Arizona Department of Transportation just finally shut down. I was like, thank you. Finally, that's all it took was the Corolla virus. For the Corolla virus for the Department of Transportation. I completely unneeded an unnecessary governmental program to shut down.

So yeah kudos kudos on that.

Alright, I hate everything about them. Yeah, so yeah. All right. Let's go to this clip. I think it'll really be enlightening. Instructive in many ways. Okay. So this is Tucker Carlson and by the way, oh my goodness.

Just so you know I gotta state this because people are gonna see this and you just you sort of load assumptions and you're seeing two Christians Who are who are quote pro-life and we're now we're playing a clip from Fox News.

I just want to make make an observation here. I just played a clip from MSNBC. We're not the typical red state conservatives that are sort of like blind followers of the Fox News kind of a thing. But Tucker Carlson had a great interview here with the governor of New Jersey.

New Jersey has an extremely high rate of a tightly compacted Population extremely high rate of kovat 19, but I highly encourage everybody go look at this interview. Just look up Tucker Carlson, New Jersey governor and it's about 15 minutes in length.

It's a really good one and it's very revealing but Luke and I wanted to play this particular portion for everybody. This is the portion where Tucker really challenges the governor of New Jersey on the restrictions around religious worship and.

I'll let Tucker do the talk in here. You guys just check this out. I noted before 15 Congregants at a synagogue in New Jersey were arrested and charged for being in a synagogue together now. The Bill of Rights as you well know protects Americans right and shrines their right to practice their religion as they see fit and to congregate together to assemble peacefully.

By what authority did you nullify the Bill of Rights in issuing this order? How do you have the power we were that?

That's above my pay grade Tucker. So I wasn't I wasn't thinking of the Bill of Rights when we did this. We went to all. First of all, we looked at the day. I can tell science and it says.

I can tell that was excellent. That was a great moment and very revealing. Yeah, that's that's the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw that was that's so revealing that you today can You can get to this the position the role of the governor.

What's the ultimate seat in a state and and not? Know the Constitution. How about the Bill of Rights? Can we at least have that? Yeah didn't know it. He's like well, that's above my pay grade, baby. No that you're supposed to be the expert in that.

You're supposed to be the expert in that. You're the governor of a state in this Union and it's a constitutional Republic. We have a Constitution. We have a Bill of Rights. These are inalienable rights.

In other words, they're not rights given from the government to the people their rights that are assumed their rights from God. There's transcendence to those rights and here's a governor who's like that.

It's above my pay grade. Bill of Rights was into my mind when I was doing this and Tucker's rights like well, I can tell.

That's a problem. This is a real problem. That's exactly is what your pay grade is. That's what you supposed to do.

I'm wondering am I wrong on this? No, what what. But isn't there supposed to be. There's a swearing-in thing for governors as well. Right, like the president the president goes up. Yeah swears. Yeah.

Yeah police officers go up and swear, right? Doesn't the governor of a state also put his hand up and swear. Maybe not, New Jersey. Maybe not. Maybe not Jersey. I we've got brothers and sisters in Jersey.

You guys maybe let us know as the governor raises hand and say I'll protect this thing. I'll uphold it I'm pretty sure when you go and you you enlist in the military you go into a room and one of the first things you do is raise your hand and.

That's kind of the thing for government right and defense is you have to protect that thing. He does. It's above his pay grade.

The first bill.

What number one like the amendment one?

We're not even asking him to get to five. No, just one number one.

Did you read. Did you even crack it at one house. All uphold it number one. What does that mean. Above my pay grade. Wasn't thinking about that? Well, maybe you should. Well.

I think a lot of politicians are Going to be losing their jobs after we get through all this boy. I hope so. They're they're. Incompetence is being exposed very quickly. Like is that a wrong thing to suggest?

I know is it a wrong thing to suggest that if you are a politician during this time and your actions are in fact Unlawful or violate other human beings that you should actually lose your job. I would think so I think that that's appropriate because that works in any private industry if you if you stink at your job.

Yeah, you fail your job if you lose the company money if you're hurting employees. They you you get the boots. Yeah, why does a an elected official not have the same standard applied in terms of? Legislative issues.

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