Fight Laugh Feast 2023:Michael Foster, Keith Foskey, Jason Farley, Cody Fields, Davis Younts DMW#192

Let's see you sing along, let's go. Exploring theology, doctrine, and all of the fascinating subjects in between. Broadcasting from an undisclosed location. Dead Men Walking starts now. Oh, I need my mug, you guys.

Where's my, I don't know where it's at, you know? Well, hey, welcome back to another episode of Dead Men Walking Podcast, but this is special. You're gonna hear a mashup live from Fight, Laugh, Feast in the Ark Encounter.

Wait, is that Williamsburg? Is that where we're at? It is, but we're no longer from an undisclosed location. I know, I really. I was gonna try and keep it quiet because of that, but. So here's what happens.

We announce an undisclosed location, and then I immediately tell everyone where I'm at. That's what we do on Dead Men Walking. From an undisclosed location, four, five, four. Yeah, so that is the voice to my right, if you're watching, to your left, the voice of Jason Farley.

How are you, Jason? Doing great. And sitting to his right, go ahead and introduce yourself. Keith Foskey. Keith Foskey. I don't have enough of you in my, say that again. There's never enough of Keith Foskey.

There's never enough of me. That's why he has to keep eating at McDonald's. Let's do it again, say it again, say it again. Testing one, two, three. There we are. I can hear myself. That's how we do things unprofessionally here at Dead Men Walking.

We don't have the right volume levels, and we just start the program. But, so Keith's hanging out with me. He came down to Fight, Laugh, Feast. We have a booth here, and so you're just gonna be like jumping in on some of these episodes,.

Maybe do a few. I'm gonna be the Andy Richter to your company, Brian.

I'm gonna be your sidekick. Color commentary. Color commentator. Oh, I like that. Which, you know, Andy Richter, full disclosure, he didn't say a lot, but when he did, it was good. It was funny. He just got in there, said his funny lines, yeah, and got out and got paid.

That's the way to do it. And Jason, oh, go ahead. We're getting paid? I'm getting paid? I was just fixing to say. In sparkling water, yes. I have a sparkling water for each of you afterwards. But of course, Jason, associated with lore .tv, give me the official title that you hold there again.

I am the chief content officer. So I find the movies and television shows that we put on the platform. Yeah, so we talked with you and Marcus, geez, that was a couple years ago now. It was in South Dakota, I think, the last time you were on.

We had a fun time. You kind of explained to everyone what it is you guys are doing. We've got some new listeners since then. So maybe in a nutshell, just tell everyone what it is lore .tv does again. Yeah, so we're a new funding and streaming platform.

So we're trying to solve the problem that makes Christian movies suck so bad by connecting the creators directly with an audience through our website so that the audience can decide what movies they want to see made, what movies and TV shows that they want to see made.

And so we put up movies and TV shows and let the audience vote with their loot. Yeah, so this is an interesting concept. So I paid Netflix or whoever pays whatever astronomical amount they're up to now, 17 bucks a month or something if you want to share passwords.

I think that's what it is. Funny thing is that's how they sold their platform eight years ago. Hey, you can get a miniature as much as you want, right? Everything comes to an end when you need to see increased profits.

So I send them that money. I don't get to have a say in what I want to see. And most of it's garbage, dude. They're all about quantity now. Netflix used to be about quality. Let's put as much stuff up there, put a fancy little digital poster so you click on it and it's not that great of content to where you guys go, hey, pay us a couple bucks each month.

We'll convert that into kind of like a digital loot or shareable loot. Yeah, digital currency. And then throw it at what you want to see. So when something has enough loot or is fully funded, then you get to see it.

So it's this kind of cool thing where as a subscriber, you get to choose what content you see. Yeah, what content goes onto the platform, right? So that way, you're building out a platform that other people will want to see too and that other people will come and see.

So it's basically, you get to be kind of super fan of particular projects and help bring those projects into the world. And then they exist in the world and everybody on the platform can watch them whether they funded it or not.

But it is a way of sort of paying it forward. I'm helping this get made, helping this come out. And that way, the rest of the world can come watch it too. Yeah, and one of the things you guys had too, which drew me in was your tagline from years ago.

And I went, oh, I'm gonna like these guys. Their tagline is Christian movies shouldn't suck. It's close to that. There's a couple of taglines. And I resonated with that. That's been one of our more popular taglines, yeah.

Yeah, just So you're not gonna have Alex Kendrick films on? That's hurtful.

Forgive me, Lord. The Kendrick brothers make really long sermon illustrations. Yeah. And they know that's what they're doing. That's what they make. Is they're not really trying to make movies per se as in the sense that it's the art of a movie.

They're making sermon illustrations because they're pastors and that's what they do. Right, yeah. So what are you guys geared towards? I mean, you have a wide range of content. But what are you looking for when you're looking, because you're the content guy, what are you looking for when you're looking for content?

What I'm looking for is the storytellers that are looking to serve an audience, right? So rather than looking to, you know, right now you go out and whether it's Netflix or Disney, everywhere you go, they're really making propaganda for an ideology most of the time.

You know, you get something good here and there, but most of it's just propaganda. And the art of just making a movie that serves an audience, making a TV show that's just a good story, that's serving an audience, that's what we're looking for.

So we've got some really great content, like Barely Biblical, which is animated stuff, teddy bears acting out the most violent Old Testament Bible stories. It's just wonderful. I think the tagline on that was, and they're bears, so it's okay.

It's like they're animated bears, so we can do it. Chopping their heads off.

And running swords through their guts. Here's your 204 skins, my lord.

No, seriously. That's one of the jokes in the pilot, yeah. They look at Michael, and one of the brothers said, she's worth at least 104 skins. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad. It's the greatest pickup line in history.

I'm glad Keith and Jason are talking, because these guys are gonna be friends, because you guys both have that weird sense of humor that's just awesome, you know? It's like, where'd that come from? But so yeah, so stuff like that.

So animated, are you guys? So we've got, yeah, animated. We've got some adult animation that's about to be announced. We've got stand-up comedy. We've got kind of conservative, underground, patriotic stand-up comedy that's going on right now.

And then we've got Western, and we've got some documentaries, and we've got a great reality show called Breaking Laws with comedian Joseph Granda, and he's traveling the country breaking the most ridiculous laws he can find, and then he turns himself into the cops and sees what they do.

You know what's funny about it? And then he finds a pastor in town and asks if he broke Romans 13. Yeah. It's just such a funny show. He messaged me probably about a year and a half ago, and he goes, hey, would you be on, would you be guest on this new podcast I'm doing where I'm researching like crazy laws that you can break?

I go, sure, yeah. Then I didn't hear back from him for like six months, and then I messaged him, and then he's like, oh, I'm working with Lord TV. We turned that down. I said, okay, that's fine. But I'm glad you guys hooked up, because that was a great premise.

Yeah. Great idea. And it's cool to see you guys kind of have that wide foundation of different stuff. Sometimes when streaming platforms first start, they really focus on just one thing. It's all docs.

It's all animation. It's like you guys are kind, and like you said, it's subscriber funded. So if they want to kind of, you put something out there and people respond to it, look, we're making it. Right, and that's exactly it.

So we've got an upcoming one. This is an example of a satirical rom-com called The Lesbian and the Lumberjack about a woman who thinks she's a lesbian, but it turns out she's just never met a real man.

Oh. Oh my God. And it's the sort of thing where you think, I think there's an audience for it, but it's not gonna get made on speculation in Hollywood anywhere. Right. But if we can take it to the audience and say, isn't this a movie you'd like to see?

And they say yes, then it's, we've already got the Christmas village in Central Oregon reserved,.

And can film it in and everything. I'm gonna get Kevin Sorbo to play the lumberjack. I hear he's looking for work.

I just. He works a lot. I'm just kidding. And he's actually a really good actor. It's just not always great options out there, but that dude acts in a ton of stuff. Well, he acts in a ton of stuff, but also with his beliefs and what he's outspoken about, it's a death sentence in Hollywood to say the things that he says.

Sure. I mean, there's three or four guys to, or even like, you know, I'm a big comedy fan. Even the guys around in the late 80s, early 90s, Dennis Miller starred even just going conservative, not Christian, just conservative.

And he goes, it was a public, it was like a choice. I go, I'm not gonna have work anymore. And just by being conservative. So that's another thing too, where you see these guys that lean a certain way or have a certain agenda that's not Hollywood's agenda.

Dean Cain's another example. He pretty much got exiled as soon as he stands up for pro-life and stuff like that.

I'm one of those weird people that think Dean Cain is a great Superman. I thought he was the best too. Yeah, he was really good. What was the show? Lois and Clark, right? Lois and Clark, yeah. Oh, I love that show.

That was my, because I grew up with Christopher Reeves. He was the next one. Right. And I've been a Superman fan. I have a comic book collection. That's sort of my thing. You're right, we are gonna get along.

I told you. So. I have a file at my comic book shop around the corner from my house where they just set aside the ones they know I'm gonna buy. So I just go in once a month and they're like, hey Jason, here's your Hellboy and here's your, all my favorite comics.

We should do a DC Marvel debate. Yeah. As long as I can argue for Dark Horse, then we're good. Yeah, okay, all right. So wait a minute, as a non-comic dude, what is Dark Horse? I do know DC and Marvel, so I'm not that dumb.

But like, I don't. Dark Horse is a smaller comic book publishing company that does more experimental stuff. Okay. They did Hellboy, right? They did Hellboy, yeah. Okay, so yeah, you're one of those hipster comic guys.

You can tell I'm hipster. Well, I'm just saying, it's like, well. You can tell I'm hipster. Not mainstream comic. Because of how thin I am. Yes, yes, yeah. Yeah, I wear skinny jeans, but it's because I have no other choice.

Yeah, yeah. When you're our size, all jeans are skinny jeans. I hear you, I hear you, guys. No, that's good, but yeah, comics I never really got into. I was a big Trekkie growing up, but never into, probably because I grew up fundamentalist, too.

It was kind of like, hey, drums are bad, comics are bad, everything's Satan. But atheistic space travel's good. Yes, yeah. Which, looking back on that, if you go back and watch TNG, like the next generation was kind of my generation in the 80s.

That's the one I watched, too. Yeah, lots of progressive agenda stuff going on there. Like, so hardcore. Like, more than anything that was going on in pop culture, you're like, oh, they really snuck it in there.

You know, so I was allowed to watch that for some reason, you know. But. The progressive movement's always coming from space. You gotta be careful. You gotta watch it. Yeah, they come from space. You gotta watch out for lesbian aliens.

That's his next show. That's his next show. The lesbian aliens and the lumberjacks who love them. Did we just create a new comic together? Yeah, you did. Oh, man. Earth Girls were easy, but not anymore.

That's. Oh, no. The musical. We can't define what Earth Girls are. Yeah, they are. They don't even know what a woman is down there. Let's go. It's the sequel. Yeah. I interviewed the guy who wrote, oh, he was on Jimmy Kimmel, Amish Vampires from Space.

Ooh. Have you ever heard that book? No, but that sounds incredible. Got really, Jimmy Kimmel picked it up and was talking about it and put his sails through the roof. But he's a believer. He's a reformed believer.

But it's. Dude, I got a 12-hour car ride home. You gotta get the audio book, dude. Amish Vampires from Space? I can't believe I've never heard of it. That's like right up my alley. It's this weird thing, too, to where it's like it uses a lot of the principles of the Amish and conservatism and they're fighting this thing in space.

You'd think it wouldn't go together. I got about halfway through before I talked about it. I was like, this is actually not bad. It's a bestseller. But yeah, any of that science fiction stuff I get a little interested in, you know?

But so anyway, back to lore, or we can just talk about anything. But I'm really excited about lore, too, because like I said, I was, jeez, we got someone in the background yelling. I was kind of there when you guys were kind, when Marcus and you guys, because you came on really early, too, just tossing the idea around to now seeing it a lot more places in just a few short years.

I don't think people understand how hard it is to do a startup, how to get funding. So if anyone's listening right now, too, who would they contact or go to if they wanna, you know, you guys are still taking investors or not?

Yeah, we're still taking investors. So we've got the tech built and it's launched and it's running and we've got all of our numbers and customer acquisition costs. And so we're out still looking for some investment, although mostly we're just looking for subscribers.

But we're basically closing out our SAFE round on the investment side now that we're launched and before we, you know, we're not gonna go public or anything. We're just trying to find some investors. So if they want more information, just go to lore .tv.

Check it out. Go subscribe. There's actually a spot where you, if you're interested in investing, that we've still got the tab up there because we've been, because we, that's what we spent, you know, the last couple of years doing is finding investment to run a beta and then finding investment to turn that beta into reality and get it launched.

And so that tab is still there. It won't be there for very much longer because. Right. I imagine though, you know, if someone walked up to you six months from now and said, hey, I wanna invest $5 million.

It would depend on the terms. But yeah. If the terms are right, you wouldn't turn it down, right? If the terms were right, we wouldn't turn it down, yeah. That's crazy, man. So if you have $5 million and no terms.

No terms. Yeah, exactly. I'm just gonna give this to you. Yeah, I mean, I think that when. The guy's just like, hey, I heard you on Dead Men. Here's $5 million. I just want the lesbian in Lumberjacks in space.

Is that what it was? It was an Amish lesbian. Oh, an Amish lesbian. But yeah, I mean, when you're a customer, we know the value of the tech we built and we know the value of the customer's acquisition costs.

And so. Right, right, right. So that's what I mean by depending on the terms. It's like we've built a money printing machine, basically. And so we don't want to sell it off too much. It's funny. Oh man, all right, cool.

Anything else going on, man? We're at the conference. This is gonna be clips, you guys, from Fight, Laugh, Feast at the ARC, almost said the ARC Museum, ARC Encounter. So you're gonna have all these different guests.

We're gonna mash them up for you. Probably come out in a few episodes. But Jason, you're the first. Yeah. I'm so glad to see you again, man. Yeah, it's good to be here. I know we kind of pass each other.

We only really see each other at these conferences because I think you guys are east out in Arizona or no? Where are you at? I'm in Spokane, Washington. Spokane, man, geez. Moved up from the Bay Area.

Yeah, it's gorgeous out there though, right? Oh, it's amazing. Never been out there, but the. It is gorgeous. Northwest. Come out here and people are like, yeah, we're going over to the mountains. I'm like, what mountains?

Because you gotta live in the Rocky Mountains. Those are the real mountains. Right. You're like, this is what the psalmist said about foothills, dude. This isn't a mountain, this is, yeah. It's funny, because on the way down here, John, who came down here with me, sitting right behind Keith there, he said, we're going to see some mountains.

I said, I think they're foothills. Because, I mean, the mountains are mountains.

I'm from Florida, so it's all mountains. You're like, it's all mountains. I'm used to swamps and valleys. I remember the first time I was coming, as a kid, I was coming up and I saw the mountain rise up out, like, because you're driving, it starts to rise up.

Yeah. And I had this sort of Godzilla moment. Is this real? Yeah.

What is that? That's a mountain. I hope somebody's got a giant mech somewhere. All right, cool, man. We'll shut it down, guys. Thanks for stopping by, though. And we'll be here, you guys will be hearing from me, and then also Keith's gonna, like I said, gonna jump in on some, too.

Just because we like Keith. He's a good dude. We like hanging out, and he's fun, and he's smart, and intelligent, and handsome, and you gotta pay me later. Yeah. $50, okay. Wait till you're paying him.

This is what I'm talking about, terms. Like, the terms are shifting before my eyes. Greg is the reason I have friends. That's what it is. He builds me up. All right, guys, go check it out, lore .tv. Super cool, fun way to fund stuff and see what you wanna see on there, and it's stuff that doesn't suck.

It's not the run-of-the-mill Christian stuff. It's gonna be in your face, it's funny, just kinda like how we're talking here, and you go, what, that's a Christian podcast? You can say the L word? Yes, we can talk about those things, we can animate those things, we can, well, not, maybe not, not the ax, I'm digging a hole here.

You understand what I'm saying. We can talk about these themes that are sharp objects. Yeah, now I'm concerned what the L word is if we're animating it. For all your animated lesbian needs. Okay, we're done, bye, we're out.

Nevermind, nevermind. Oh, we're recording everywhere, dude. It's already started.

What was his name? You didn't know it. Have you ever seen Office Space? Yup. Oh, yeah. That's a classic. What would you do if you had a million dollars? I'll tell you what I'd do. Nothing. That's what you just asked me, what I'd do.

I'd do nothing. Pretty good at it, man. You ain't got a million dollars to do nothing. My cousin don't do nothing.

Yeah. He's broke, don't do crap. Yeah, he's broke, he don't do crap, yeah. That was a good, that was a sleeper movie, that did not do well at the box office. And then, just, you know, anyone who has ever worked corporate or office understands that movie.

I'm from America Online and AT &T. Me too. AT &T, yeah. In the center, yeah. Oh. On my drive here, it was a 12-hour drive. Yeah. A lot of people are like, oh, I listen to podcasts, or I listen to a sermon.

Very spiritual people. What I did. They just listen to the same Votie Bauckham sermon on repeat so they can memorize it. I wanna be able to preach like Votie.

No, what I did was I listened to movies that I know so well that I don't have to look at the screen. Yeah. So, the four movies that I listened to on the way here were Smoking the Bandit, because I was driving.

Yeah.

And I wanted that. You wanted your truck to fly, right? I love Smoking the Bandit. You have no idea how.

You are driving the right truck down to this conference for that. I love it. I was behind you last night with those Doolies. And that, we got glass packs on it. You're just swerving all. I'm like, dude, he's running from the law right now.

What is going on?

The movie Vacation. I did all driving movies, by the way. So, it was Vacation and Tommy Boy.

Oh, Tommy Boy's great. If you don't think about it, that's a road trip movie. Yeah, oh no, it totally is. I don't remember the other one. Wait a minute, Tommy Boy is the one with the brakes and everything, and then Black Sheep is the political one, right?

Yes, Black Sheep is the political one. Yeah, because one of my favorite scenes in Black Sheep is when, I don't know if you've seen it, but when he's delivering, when he's out, because I knock doors as a elected official and stuff, and he's got, every vote counts, and he's at the top of the hill, and then he just falls down a hill for eight minutes.

Little root, he's hanging onto the root and falls again. And he has the best line. He just gets up and goes, what the heck was that all about? That was, you know what I mean? I've had those times while door knocking, sweating, I trip in some guy's ditch, and I'm just like, Lord, what is going on?

But yeah, Tommy Boy's good too, though. It's funny because I just had, we were really big in hospitality in our church. So, I mean, we've got a young church, got about 650, 700 people. Probably half of them are under the age of 30.

Big families, we're really big in, you know, making sure we're multiplying and, you know, taking dominion and all that. Yeah. That's right. So, but because of that, I get invited to a lot of dinners, probably once a week.

And most of these guys are in their,.

Who do we have over there? I just saw a dude with the coolest hair. You, my friend, have awesome hair. He's not even looking at me. Well, you, that's right. That is sweet.

I'm going to make this story short. First flow at the conference, right? Essentially what I'm saying is I noticed I'm the old man now because of my movie references when I go to dinner with these early 20-somethings.

You know, I'm like, yeah, you know, like in Dumb and Dumber and Tommy Boy.

They're like, what? Yeah. I've never seen that. I get the same thing musically being a, being a mid -2000s emo and pop punk kid heart. Oh yeah. That Taking Back Sunday album. And their eyes glaze, who is that?

Yeah. They're like, we listened to That's not Post Malone. You know? Yeah.

And we listened to a little Muzzy or who, I don't know, whoever that is. And making up rappers. I've never listened to music in my life. You're a good Baptist. You know that? No, it's not that. I just, I literally, when I was a kid, I would, I would take movies.

And like I said, on my car trip, I would take movies and I had a VHS player and an audio recorder. And I would record the movies on audio.

My first time I went You're pirating copyrighted music and audio? Someone send this to the FBI.

My wife got in my car the first time. She opened it up, opened up my tape case. And she's like, why does this say a goofy movie? But it wasn't the soundtrack from a goofy, it was literally a goofy movie.

It was the movie I had filmed. Her video, cause I'm just that guy.

I love movies. Wait, isn't there a cartoon movie called a goofy movie though? That's the movie. That's the one I'm talking about.

Oh, you had actually taped it on. I had taken the VHS tape, recorded onto a audio tape and listened to it while I drove. And let me tell you something, Powerline, one of the greatest artists ever.

Wait, see, okay. I was so confused. And so you're listening to video. You're listening to a movie. I'm listening to this. But you're not watching it.

No, I can watch it right here. I've got it all up here, baby. I know this movie. I don't know why I have this stupid photographic memory. I remember everything I see. Wow. In fact, my brother, I'm gonna tell you a story about my brother.

Okay. I'm sorry. This is crazy. We will allow it. My brother. Welcome to Keith's show, everyone, where he tells all the stories, says all the things, and no one else gets to talk. Go ahead, Keith, talk about your brother.

That's Keith Foskey, by the way, and Cody Fields from Westminster Effects. And now we know Keith. He's been on the podcast. They both have, and we're just chopping it up here at Fight Lab Feast a little bit.

Everyone knows Keith. Four people know who I am. Yeah, one person knows who I am. Four people knows who Cody is, and Keith is getting selfie requests every 15 minutes. It's more often than that. Yeah, let's be honest.

Now, he's starting to charge, and we're not allowed to look him directly in the eyes. That is one of his rules. We did bring him all the green M &Ms that was on his rider.

And we can only speak to him if he speaks to us first. Yep, yep, yep. If he walks into the room, we have to stand up. That's true. Yeah. He said he's starting to charge.

He's thinking like a bull. He has been, he told me personally, he's thinking about a light bow. He would like a light bow. Oh, okay, we can make that work, yeah. Kind of a Asian, Japanese kind of. Just a quick one.

Kison, yes. I do have a black belt. That's true, he's a fourth degree, or is it a fourth degree, fifth degree black belt. Sorry, I didn't mean to steal a degree from you there, buddy. He looked at me when I said fourth degree.

He's like, you son of a, it's five. It's fifth degree.

All right, go ahead. Your brother, anyway. Just, my brother, he calls me one day and he goes, hey man, I was having a rough night the other night. He was all by himself. He was going through some stuff.

And he goes, but I wanna know if this ever happens to you. He said, do you ever just lay at night and watch a movie in your head? And you're like, we are related. Absolutely. I could start right now. One crazy summer is my favorite movie of all time.

John Cusack, Demi Moore, in the beautiful days when Bobcat Goldwaite was an actual cultural phenomenon. And I can watch that movie beginning to end in my head. No way. I can just start right now. The very first thing is the cute and fuzzy bunnies.

He's drawing the cartoons. It's awesome.

Can I tell you something? Is the right word juxtaposition, juxtapose that? I was watching Mission Impossible 4 or 3, whatever the last one was, on Prime. And I got half, yeah, it's whatever the last one was.

I got halfway through it. I'm halfway through it and I'm like, oh, I bet you I know what he's gonna do. That guy's probably the bad guy, right? And I'm so proud of myself to my wife. I said, I figured this out.

She goes, you watched that last month. I watched it 30 days prior and I didn't even know it. I was halfway through it. I thought I was figuring out the plot. I figured it out. It was like a remnant of a memory.

And I was like, oh, I bet you that guy, she's like, you just watched this a month ago. So that's how I remember movies, not at all.

I'll cop to being not a huge movie guy, but the two movies that I can quote pretty much front to back are Monty Python and the Holy Grail and O Brother Where Art Thou? Yeah, O Brother Where Art Thou has some family significance to me.

So my entire extended family, my parents, et cetera, are all from Northeast Mississippi, from Corinth and Alcorn County. Okay. But not to Corinth. Not to Corinth.

We just, we're just joking. They don't know what we're talking about. That's a Trump joke from two Corinthians. Yeah.

But O Brother Where Art Thou was filmed and set in Tishomingo County, right next to where my parents grew up. Nice. And I tell you, not much has changed from the 1930s in Tishomingo County. There's still nothing there.

What is it? Wait, Tishomingo? Tishomingo. Is that Native American?

I assume so. I assume so. Yeah, it means one Texaco. Hey, where's my, I need my, oh, I just erased all my drops. So there we go. We need a lap track for him. The only drop I have left on here is my, is my favorite one.

Joel Osteen's talking. Oh, go ahead and hit that one. When he's talking to, who is it? Larry King. I almost said Larry David.

Good Lord. Larry King. No, not, he's like, not great, not great value, John Piper.

It was awesome because you know how great value John Piper. You know how Larry King was. He was like, so Joel, I'm a Jew. I don't believe in God. I don't believe in Jesus.

Am I going to hell? Go, and his was his answer. I just, I'm very careful about saying who and would and wouldn't go to heaven. I just think that only God can judge a person's heart.

And then two weeks later, he had Bono on and he asked him the exact same question and Bono just lays out the gospel for him. Bono. Bono. He goes, look, there's only one way to the father. It's through Christ.

You know, he changed my life. And you're like, so the rock star is preaching the gospel to Larry King, but the mega pastor, I can't, I can't judge. I don't know who goes to heaven and who doesn't. And I mash those two videos up before.

And I always post it about once a year, just to remind people, you know, you can't really,.

You know. That Bono is a better Christian than Joel Osteen.

Or just at least professing the gospel. Yeah.

For your listeners who aren't familiar with me, I have a pedal called the Osteen Distortion that Joel Osteen knows about. Yeah. We'll put it up if you're watching this too, I'll edit it in. His music minister, one of them at least, confronted me about it at a trade show several years ago.

And he was adamant that Joel Osteen was not a health and wealth preacher. He's like, no. And I got home from that trade show and this guy is playing guitar and Joel Osteen lays out the most health and wealth bullcrap I've ever heard in my life.

And I'm like, are you kidding me right now?

Yeah. So he was trying to tell, cause you said he worked for Joel Osteen, or worked with him, right? Yeah.

And he found your pedal. And he does work for Worship Musician Magazine, which is, you know,.

This is a mega charity. On the Joel Osteen effects pedal for guitar, that's what we're talking about here, Westminster Effects, he does effects pedals.

What's the settings? Tell us really quick, cause I love that. The EQ section, so your bass, metal, and treble is labeled health. The gain, the amount of distortion is wealth. And then the volume knob is labeled listen friend.

Listen friend. Yeah. So yeah. Oh, that's good. His music director was not happy with me. But then the next year, he was kind of walking down the row at this same trade show and realizes that I was the next booth too late.

Total deer in the headlights. So of course he had to try the pedal. Right. And then he liked it. And then he liked it. Gotcha. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome.

You will like that Osteen distortion. So what else we got going on today? Obviously guys, if you're listening to this, this is a mashup from Fight, Laugh, Feast. We're podcasting here until Saturday evening.

I've been here since Wednesday. So we got a few days here and we're on a break. We've got, who do we got coming up next? I think it's session three. Oh, it's Ben Merkle. I think it's Ben Merkle. Who we talked to last night and he's going to swing by.

So hopefully we'll hear from him, get an update on New St. Andrews College out there. You guys got anything else? We got Joe Rigney later. Oh, Joe Rigney. And then I think Wilson is tonight. We got Doug Wilson, Michael Foster tomorrow.

Yep. And I just got a text from Michael. He's going to try to swing by and jump on. And we're going to talk about maybe his book and all the controversy he caused by just talking about biblical manhood.

Oh, very good. Who would have thought? Yeah. You say it's good to be a man and it's good to be masculine. It's good to work and provide for your family. And you write a book about it and people go, you can't say those things.

Is the counsel for a biblical manhood and womanhood not good enough for you?

Right. Well, most of those people that are saying that though, they have a real they, them vibe. Vibe, if you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean? I understand what you are saying. Oh man. All right, cool.