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Well greetings and welcome to The Dividing Line. I hope you're hearing me. We're hoping this is working, but I'll be perfectly honest with you

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I've made it a stressful end of the year for someone whose first name

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Sounds like which I Don't know.

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I was I was thinking about the program today. We had planned to do a program today Couldn't do yesterday for particular personal reasons, and I don't do any look

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New Year's for me is Trying to keep my cats from having a heart attack basically

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When it sounds like the Iraq War is erupting in the alleyway behind the house, okay? That's that's all it is to me.

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I don't watch anything. I'm not watching any football It's just it's just not a

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New Year's has never been a big a big deal for me And so I'm like, hey, it's a

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Friday. We've only done one program this week. There's important stuff to be talking about Let's do this and as I'm looking at what

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I want to be able to do This This is cool.

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Okay. Okay and rich rich got that so I'd never do anything about it I did it just showed up one day and rich is like you're gonna like this and it's taken me months to figure it out but now he's very proud of the fact that I'm sitting over there tap tap tap tap tap tap doing my thing and and I Know how to make it work

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And I think now I think about it. I think there's a second generation of it out now too. But anyway, this works.

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It's great It's beautiful. It's wonderful. And so I'm coming down here and I stopped at my favorite little

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Italian place to Get to get some food and as I'm walking in I'm like, um,

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I sent a text message Because we're gonna do it remote rich is gonna be at home and we've done that a number of times now from the other studio

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Using both cameras. Nobody can tell I'm just in there alone. And and we've got it dialed in and works fine, and I'm like I Wonder if we can do that in the big studio because it's a different it's a different deal, you know

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It's it's it's not the same thing But I was thinking all the stuff he's been doing recently might be possible and Lo and behold, it's working at least so far anyways

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And so here we are and I'm I'm in here all by my loan so there's nobody down here, but me myself and I and Rich is at home doing his thing and we just hope it's gonna work and hope it'll be a

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Blessing in in the process. It's supposed to start raining I don't think we're getting much out of this one sadly, but because I was honestly

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I was hoping it would just be coming down gangbusters tonight and Keep those morons the alleyway with their m60 firebombs that just about break the windows in my house

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But we will see we will see So anyways, we have important stuff to get today we have the big board up and we've got

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God's Word on the big board and that's Why we do the things that we do here and I wanted to start off With scripture.

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I think that's a you know we're finishing a two difficult years and I'd like to pray that that 2022 will that God would see fit to Shine the light of his his truth in our culture.

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That's the only hope we have I mean how divided we are how divided we have become the the depth of the depravity of secularism is all around us and As far as I can see right now it has completely taken control of the party on the left and the party on the right is

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Doesn't have a meaningful worldview to stand on and so We just pray that the gospel would go forth a great power

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It has in this land before and that's the only hope this land has So may

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God be merciful in 2022 and may he use all of us to bring that about But I want us to think about a key text

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In the scriptures that I have here on the screen right now, and I have three columns

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I have the 1977 NASB over here my favorite and the

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Hebrew Biblia Hebraica Stuttgart Tennessee in the center we have Ralph's Septuagint on the right hand side and the reason for having all three up obviously is that we are looking at a text that Many people are very very familiar with and that is

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Exodus 3 14 and I Can't think of of too many texts in The Tanakh the

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Torah the Nevi 'im the Ketuvim. I like the term Tanakh better than the Old Testament There's a specific meaning to Old Testament that you know, we use it for the

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Hebrew Scriptures, but Hebrew Scriptures Tanakh I think is a better descriptor than just Old Testament But anyway in the

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Hebrew Scriptures, I can't think of many other texts That you can just immediately point to and Recognize that what's going on in that text has deep theological meaning

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That will carry straight through to the New Testament Exodus 3 14 this self revelation of God And God said to Moses.

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I am who I am and he said thus you shall say to the sons of Israel I am has sent you and God furthermore said to Moses thus you shall say the sons of Israel Yahweh the

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God of your fathers the God of Abraham the God of Isaac God Jacob has sent me to you This is my name forever.

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And this is my memorial name to all generations Now immediately sadly in some ways you know,

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I've thanked the Lord more than once that I Did have to go to a seminary that was way to my left

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Because that has been vitally important to being able to engage with the left in our day, but at the same time there's a

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You know as soon as I see that The classes I took in Old Testament, even though I had good professors

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I had to learn the left's view of The Tanakh and I look at that immediately and I know that in Yeah Minimally 90 % of the seminaries in the

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English -speaking world of around the world at all In 90 % of the seminaries someone would look at 314 315 and automatically draw a distinction and if they held the

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JEDP Yahwist Eloist Deuteronomist Priestly viewpoint of the redaction of the

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Old Testament, they would draw a line right here Did I turn that off? Come on, baby.

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All right. There we go That's on. There we go. They would draw a line right here and they would say there's been a redaction

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And why would they say that they would say that the Yahwist because here's Yahweh So here's 315 and so here's

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Yahweh and they would say that Because in 314

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God gives his name as I am who I am Hey, yeah, hey

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I share a hey I Am that I am right there they would say well

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That was the original and then 315 is added in by the Yahwist source because you have to have

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Yahweh in there The reason being

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I wasn't gonna get into all this but the reason being that once you presuppose that the nature of The Tanakh is a badly redacted and edited

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Mess that has no supernatural Origin and source to it, which is not what

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Jesus believed Then you're stuck with this kind of stuff you just it just always is the way you have to think

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So you don't even get to think that what you have here is that 314 is giving us one aspect of the self -identification of God and The second is giving us the covenantal or my memorial name

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To all generations Yahweh the God of your father's guy of Abraham got a bit a

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Isaac God of Jacob and that you put the two together and it's beautiful But no, that's not how you get to do things with with the

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Tanakh in in most seminaries and Bible colleges It so back to Exodus 314

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Burning bush There's there's been some fascinating film portrayals of this

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Trying to in some way Capture what it must have been like for Moses to see this amazing thing and The God who reveals himself there

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Says thus you shall say to the sons of Israel. I am has sent me to you

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And so the I am part there is the same as right here

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Hey, yeah, hey and this most scholars now that Just tell you ahead of time.

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There are a tremendous number of theories Concerning exactly what's going on here and exactly what this phrase

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Especially Yeah, hey, I share I hit What what is that related to and how to translate it because it's technically future

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So I will be who I will be I am who I am And you will get a lot of interpretations as to exactly what is here and and the the problem is that as far as Explicating the grammar in Hebrew over here in I think it is we do need to point this out.

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I think it's important over here in the Greek Septuagint God said to Moses and here is your key phrase right here

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Ego I me ha own They go I me ha own. I am the one being ha own

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If you're familiar with the with the term ontology Ontology the the study of being that is from own the

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Greek ontology I am the one being and Thus you will say to the sons of Israel ha own

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Sent me to you Now a lot of you will recognize Ego I me

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We'll get to that later on but it is important. Please catch this if you're

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If you do evangelism to Jehovah's Witnesses Especially tune in here.

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Maybe even some of the sharper black Hebrew Israelites those types of folks

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There are a lot of books and tracks and things out there

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That will take you from passages like John 8 58 where Jesus says before Abraham was

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I am and They will transport you directly wholesale right into exodus 314 and say here's the connection

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But if you're looking with me, you see that there needs to be a stronger connection made.

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Yeah, I go I'm he's there But the The emphasis the the the power

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Part of the phrase is ha own Because you see that's what's translating a yeah.

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Hey, so tell the sons of Israel ha own Sent you and that's the second part.

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I go. I mean ha own the one being sent me to you and so If you don't build the proper connections

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Which we'll be looking at a moment That's a illicit jump

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I I it's it's an appropriate connection. We can talk about who revealed who revealed himself to Moses at the burning bush, and I think you can make a strong argument in light of Isaiah 6 and John 12

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Genesis 18 19 Especially because that the Genesis 18 19 account is before this temporarily anyways

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That we are talking about another pre -incarnate Theophany appearance of the

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Sun But the point is the emphasis here is ha own the one being

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So in the Greek Septuagint, it's a present participle. I am the one being so that's how the

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Greek Septuagint translators understand it so How much can we read into This particular text

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How much of God's being is revealed in the phrase

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Hey, I share a hey They go I mean ha own well some people in the past have certainly

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Freighted this text With a massive amount of theology proper a

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Massive amount. I don't think there's any question that God's self -existence is found here and How would

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I defend that as a person who believes that exegesis needs to be the source of your beliefs?

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Well One thing that I'm afraid we very frequently miss when we read the

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Old Testament is There is a tremendous amount of very appropriate apologetic being provided in The Tanakh and if you remember what

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Israel was surrounded by and Who surrounded Israel and if you take some time?

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to to do some reading in In What's called Annette?

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Anet the ancient new East Near Eastern texts Pritchard the editor

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Big old well back in the day my day. It was sort of a reddish Maroon volume

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Came out with a supplement to it because so much stuff's been found since then But if you you take some time to to read in that material you get a sense of The Canaanite gods the

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Assyrian gods the Babylonian gods and That should be should be in your initial

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Understanding of a text from 1 ,400 years ago. I would say 1 ,400 years others would say 1 ,200 years

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But in looking at text from Moses and I can say

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Moses while other people will say Pentateuchal author That's something I wouldn't want to have to say very often.

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Um, I can look at this and say that initial context

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Should be the first thing That you're seeing can we make extended application?

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Yes, but we need to recognize its extended application If we don't recognize that we're doing that We can fall into some serious errors and And so what what would this have meant in that day

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To Moses who has just come out of Egypt he's been raised in Egypt.

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He Everywhere he has walked especially since he was viewed as Pharaoh's son Everywhere he has walked

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He has been surrounded by the gods of Egypt and he knows all their mythology and All their mythology these gods

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Did not create all things they they can order things and they can they have certain divine powers, but the cosmos

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Does not exist Because of the will of a god there are many gods they interact with each other they have limitations and their powers

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There are none who are ha 'on No God of Israel Would say ha 'on in this sense

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They might claim some type of authority and self -existence within a certain realm but not like this and that's the first thing that you have to understand and Once you've got that then you can ask is it appropriate to make further application?

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Now the question becomes how is this used in? The New Testament, I mean because we only if all you have is this you have to be

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I think Humble And simply say and I don't know why it's doing this

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I'm trying to keep an eye on certain Not not all of not not all of Arizona is is is quite as nice as all other places in Arizona let's just put it that way and for some reason

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This will only work for 20 minutes at a time. I'm not sure what There you go. I may have to go over there and tap it once in a while just to keep it to keep it happy anyways, apologize, that's the other reason, you know when you're here alone and You sort of don't want to go out to your truck and find it sitting on blocks

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It's one problem with being Within two and a half hours of the border anyway, well, we don't have a border anymore.

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So why does it really matter? What were we talking about Moses in the bulrush is pretty close there actually not too far

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Actually after that point in time so you start there and Then you ask the question

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How much more can I put into this? I am who I am. God is the self -existent God God is not dependent for his being

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Upon the created order that is a fundamental part of the revelation that Yahweh makes of himself to the people of Israel No question about it.

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No question about it But how much farther can that can that be taken? Because if you

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Take the time to look into Aquinas's use of this text it becomes central to his establishment of a

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Foundational metaphysic Borrowing from Aristotle, but Aristotle's God was not this

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God so Aquinas has to modify Aristotle but he's still using

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Aristotle's categories and Exodus 314 is central to how Aquinas accomplishes this and sees in this this

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Emphasis upon the essence of God and Utilizes that in in his writings

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Well, how far can that be taken because there's obviously been down through the centuries a lot of argument and I've noticed it's interesting

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When a well -known theologian who upon his death

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Achieves some level of Respectful notoriety

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When they held a certain position they taught a certain doctrine There is a hesitancy on the part of many

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To question that not if it's one of the central issues, but especially if it's Becomes popular or or commends itself or just gets repeated a lot

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All of us know how often we have heard

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Something repeated for example. Well, let's just let's use an absurd example first because it's it's rather clear

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Look at the independent fundamentalist Baptist King James only guys The bad preacher clips fellas fella fellas

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Posted a whole series I think yesterday demonstrating that this

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Psalm 12 mythology Goes back to Ruckman all this stuff is only goes back to the last century.

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It's it's it's a modern tradition But it goes back to Ruckman and he posted all these people saying the exact same thing

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That Ruckman said about being purified seven times and all the rest of that kind of stuff.

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So here you have a small group and a figure Repeats this and it sounds like it's a good argument and so it gets repeated over and over again, but uncritically no one really thinks through and in fact, there is a

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There's a hesitancy To critically analyze the claim

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Because that may may put you outside The power structures. I'll give you another example.

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Let's go outside Woo, woo, woo, wooville and How many times have you heard a preacher preach on the words of Jesus from the cross

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Eloi Eloi Lama suboxonee My god my god, why have you? Abandoned me forsaken me and they have with great

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Passion and fervor and emotion Spoken of that moment when when the the father turned his back on the son it's even in that song the father turned his back away and and The father turned away and that's turns back away turned away.

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Whatever it is in the song. We've all sung it and It's normally around, you know

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Easter time and then you're preaching about the cross and why it's just so powerful and I grew up hearing that I grew up hearing that and Then in My early adult years as I am

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Developing as a theologian and as I'm studying as I'm as I am constantly feeling because I'm doing apologetics that pressure to be consistent

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I Analyze that tax and I realize

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This is this is a quotation from Psalm 22 and And Jesus is

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Identify himself as that servant in Psalm 22. It's the most messianic Psalm in the in the

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Psalter and the Psalm ends with the vindication of the suffering servant and The idea that at the very time

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Jesus is using the second person. He's addressing God. He's not saying God's gone away He's not saying why did he go away why why have you forsaken me

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But those are the words of the psalmist And so if Jesus is using this is actually Jesus pointing people to this 22nd

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Psalm Being fulfilled in him and hence the vindication at the end. This isn't anything about it.

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I Mean literally a disruption of the Trinity itself When this the very point where the son is is

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Offering himself. He's doing the very will of the father is When the father turns his back on him

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The very next words that he says from the cross father into your hands I commit my spirit there's there's no sense of separation at that point and I realized that That's strong Passionate and you've heard so many people preach it

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We're gonna play a portion of a sermon today and it was it. I'm not gonna play that portion, but it was right the end same same application

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I've heard so many men that I love and respect and they're good brothers and I just go

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You know a part of Christian maturity is

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Learning to love men who say things you don't agree with That's part of Historical maturity and reading men from the past It is

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It's a wonderful thing when you can break out of that Fundamentalist mindset that you had as a kid and actually read church history and appreciate people who worshipped differently and dressed differently and had forms of liturgy that you wouldn't feel comfortable with but and You can actually start recognizing that God has been

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Fulfilling his promise through Christ to build his church and it's a wonderful thing really is point is

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There's an example of a tradition and there is there is a strong pressure exercised upon someone to just look if all these people said it it must be true as If The fact that it's been repeated means it has been critically analyzed each time.

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It was repeated How many times was it not analyzed at all in that first example?

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I gave none of those IFB guys are analyzing anything. They're not giving any critical thought to it they're just repeating it thoughtlessly and In the second example, how many people sit back and and really go now now

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I need to I need to be careful here I need to okay. This is Psalm 22 and no you've heard it preached that way and there is a less than subtle emphasis and pressure to To go with what?

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your favorite Preacher teacher or whatever has said that's why

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Anybody watches this program how many times I said you check everything out. I've got my blind spots

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I'm not gonna be one of those folks. It says you just Know I could do that.

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So point being When we look at something like Aquinas's use of exodus 314 is

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The fact that there have been many people down through the ages or at least in the century since then who have

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Utilized the categories that he Delineated does that mean that they

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Sat back and Looked at this text and said well hmm how are these

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Hebrew and Greek phrases used in the rest of the Bible and Is the is the

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Metaphysics that are behind this the same metaphysics that would come From reading this is this

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Moses's metaphysics. Have we given up on even having an idea what Moses's metaphysics would have been?

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Are they thinking these things or they just running with it because well my my professors and seminary said that my professors and university said that and It just gets repeated over and over and over again

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It's an interesting question So let's think about this phrase

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Ego I me I go I me ha own and let me go to Another set of texts here

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This will be Let's see. Oh, that's right Did it did it did it there it is

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Oh And I thought I had

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Blown them up a little bit, but I Didn't there we go

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Gotta make it big enough for folks to see if I didn't big enough for me to see let alone you I Mean, it's only what is this 72 inches.

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I don't even know how big it is. But I Remember I said earlier that there is a step that we need to That we need to be aware of Hopefully those taps will keep it from turning off there

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When we Look at this phrase ego. I mean there is a place as F and I I can't scroll back to it right now

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But the primary place is you're gonna find The connective bridge to Jesus's uses which is

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John 8 24 8 58 13 19 and 18 5 through 6 in John because there's

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Argument to be made that When Jesus reveals himself as the I am when he's walking upon the water that fits in as well and that's in Mark But the specific johannine uses

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You can see That the first is Isaiah 41 4 and immediately let me just some people get upset with me for doing this.

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I'm sorry Again it comes from having gone to a seminary way off to my left

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But I have had Young men come up to me over the years and thanked me for doing this part

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They admitted it had bothered him at first But they ended up at like even at a Christian University or something like that and they started getting hit with this stuff

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And they said you I was prepared because you did this So I just I keep doing it.

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So It it hinders the flow, but I think it's important Why do

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I say this When Again when

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I look at this when I look at this list of texts Where I go I me is used the

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Hebrews on a who I didn't put the Hebrew up in this but The first thought across my mind again coming from My education in the left is

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Is We'll get the Notice where it starts

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Isaiah 41 for now 40 to 48 trial the false gods massively important stuff, but what you're gonna hear in a almost any standard

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Old Testament class is All of this is called what they will call it is the spell it right

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Deutero Isaiah second

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Isaiah starting chapter 40 and so the the theory is and and again what

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What what what what gave rise to this have we ever found? Manuscripts word it ends at 39 and so no we haven't

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The theory behind it is starting in chapter 40. You have reference to Cyrus and since that's in the future

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We can't have writings that know people's names in the future and so this must be

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That the first section of the book was written pre exile and the second part is

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Added in later Now that Cyrus has come along and it and they throw his name in there and call him the well

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He's actually called the Mashiach He's called the anointed one, you know that yeah and so this is

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This is what you're when you go to that dangerous place called the Christian bookstore if any exists any longer and you buy the commentaries, this is what you're gonna run into and I think it's better to point this out here and point out what started it.

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The assumption is there's there's no There's no prophecy It's better to hit it now, did

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I say dootro? Good dootro. There we go Better to hear it now than to run into it in the context of unbelief.

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That's that's my that's my view So anyways wanted to throw that in there just for the fun of it because it's fun now

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First one Isaiah 41 for who has rotten done these things the one calling her from the beginning of generations has called her

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I God Ego theos, I God Am the first protoss

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Chi ice top ep air commoner ego, I mean and for the things that are coming

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Ego, I mean I am Hmm. There's a lot of that in Isaiah I'm with the first the generations the one calling her from the beginning of generations

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There's a lot of that in Isaiah 40 48 But here's the first place where we have a go. I'm II being used as a name of God Well, let's see if that continues

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Next one is one of the most important texts and we've gone through this in the past But you have

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Isaiah 43 10 so so so very important Isaiah 43 10

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Be my witnesses I am a witness says courios atheos and my servant whom

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I have chosen and here's he not note a

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Chi pistew Saita Kai Sunita Hati ego. I mean don't have a whole time a lot of time do this but go to John 13 19

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Look at the Greek Jesus quotes this Himself in the context that's not 17.

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There's supposed to be a 9 there there you go in the context of the Last Supper in the context of prophesying just as you have right here

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You may know and believe and understand that ego. I mean I am here ego. I mean is being used as the name of God in the book of Isaiah in The same form.

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There's no hot own here In the same form that it's used in the exact same form with the

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Verbs not all three of the verbs both with the verbs same same thing in John 13 19. Jesus is quoting of himself

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Now most of us know Isaiah for you Tim because this very last phrase Before me there was I go no

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God for him and there should be none after me because we use this with Mormons all the time but it is an incredibly rich text and There you have ego.

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I mean now look at Isaiah 43 25. Look at this Ego, I me repeated twice

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I Am I am The one who blots out who forgives?

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Your sins I am the I am that does this There you have the use being used in a very strong sense and then

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Isaiah 45 18 Look at this Ego, I me courios ha to sauce say

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I am The Lord I am the courios Who created you

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Wow? The connections that we could that we would have to this is called a study of intertextuality.

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You have two texts You've got Isaiah You've got the Tanakh general Old Testament and the

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New Testament, so when you're looking at the Relationships, but especially here Isaiah into John Isaiah into Paul I am courios, so courios, of course

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Standard term for the Son over against theos for the father though. They are switched But normally you look at first Corinthians 8

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They also use the father courios use the son I am The Lord who created you and There's just just go over to Colossians chapter 1

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It's all over the place there. You have the Son as the creator as the maker

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There is no other than I am and Isaiah 45 18, I mean this really is the

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The source here's a go I mean used again twice With courios and Isaiah 45 19.

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I mean it's all through Isaiah 45 19 ago. I mean hot they us 45 22 46 9 ago.

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I mean hotly us You see what I'm saying here is this is where you have to go from the

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Ohanian corpus From Jesus's usage to trace this properly back because now once you're once you're firmly established here

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With a guy me being used of Yahweh now You can take it back to Exodus 3 and you have a solid connection if you just jump between the two, that's that's not

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That's not the best way to To do it This is much stronger, okay, but the point is

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When we're looking at Exodus 3 14 Now we've looked at the utilization of that terminology in the

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Greek Septuagint and We've trans now we can when we go into the

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New Testament We go into G is saying unless you believe that ego I me you will die in your sins

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We go into John 13 19 Jesus demonstrates who he is his

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Messiah ship. He demonstrates who he is by Utilizing this terminology.

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This is where the open theists fall apart If you remember the debate I did with the open theist fellow who passed away last year, didn't he was this year?

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Yeah, I think I'm recalling that correctly I think he did I think it was sudden unexpected he wasn't that old

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He's older than me, but wasn't that old? But anyway that that was part of that debate that we did

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Was I focused upon John 13 19 and and what's goes on there? Of course, John 18 5 to 6

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Soldiers come who are you seeking Jesus ego? I me Susan says they go. I mean they fall upon the ground

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There's your connection and now The Now you have a firm solid basis for saying that at least part of what is being revealed in Exodus 3 14 is

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That this one who is I am Will reveal himself as the creator by entering into his own creation

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Which is what he's done the burning bush, isn't he? Now see there you have

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Exegetically grounded foundation for saying what

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I'm saying to you is biblical. I Did not have to go outside of Scripture now,

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I just might say oh, yes you did you talked about The apologetic content of the

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Old Testament and and the ancient Near Eastern texts and so you went outside of Scripture. I I did in the sense of looking at the context

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But I did not derive the categories to interpret this from that It's one thing to look at those categories

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That is the what the Babylonians believe what the Assyrians believe what the Canaanites believe? It's one thing to look at that and then look at the text go.

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Oh This the text is saying these guys are wrong That's one thing that's an appropriate use of external sources

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It's another to go out here and get your categories and then put it on this and say oh

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It must be saying this because these categories say that see the difference. It's a big difference.

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It's an important difference and it's one we We need to really stay focused upon I think that's that's very very important All right love this board thankful Like anything to the

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Lord that we have it and I hope it's useful to you and I just want to Thank all the people who gave so we could put this because that was only when was the first time we did this here

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When was when was our when did we start that was like? Yes, Jeff I watched the video and so I know and and Honestly Jeff when

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I said that I had you in mind Love you, bro, but yeah, mm -hmm you show up at my house with all those things and There's gonna be an excommunication

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Sorry, okay Now you want to know how crazy and sane

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I am I'm going to criticize Sinclair Ferguson on the dividing line

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Can I tell you something? I love listening this man preach. He is a wonderful brother -in -law. We've never met It Is not fair,

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I think I do a Brit I think I do a good Scottish bro, I really do but he's really

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Scottish Well, so am I but he lives there. Well, he's lived there And here's here's again where it's like We need to have a level of maturity in the reform community where we can actually have

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Conversations with one another and there needs to be a level of robust Confidence so we do not become brittle and Easily shatter when there is disagreement

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It it just must be There was a

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Facebook post See if I can find it Yeah there was a

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Facebook post on December 29th by Chad Vegas Chad is a former

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Baptist pastor over in the communist country of California and So we need to be praying for Chad and all those people under That communist rule and the insane people there in Sacramento Anyway At 10 19 p .m.

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He posted this sermon from Sinclair Ferguson And here's what he introduced it with quote this sermon is well worth your time

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It would be great if men like James White listened to it. Let me just mention

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It's just astonishing to me How many Individuals Just assume that if you don't hold their positions, it's just because you haven't done the reading that they've done

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I pointed out in response to to brother

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Chad that You know, these weren't I said remember back in the 90s,

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I don't know Chad, I don't know I remember back in the 90s we weren't I Spoke in Reformed Baptist churches all over the place.

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I spoke at Reformed Baptist conferences. I We were not focused on this this was this was not

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Nobody was no one even raised the question in all of the sermons that I remember well into the 2000s

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But now if you don't just automatically embrace this

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Then it's just because you just haven't done Enough reading I was I was teaching church history starting in 1990

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I found out later that Chad wasn't even converted at that point and I think became Reformed Baptist somewhere around 11 years ago

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That doesn't make me right or him wrong, it's just I really wonder at the willingness that people have to assume

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Well, if you don't if you don't agree with me and I'm talking about within our own groups here

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That's just because you're just haven't done the reading that I have because if you've done the reading I have you're gonna agree with me and We need to sort of get past that it's

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Anyway, it would be great. If men like James White listen to it. We need to understand these modern definitions of simplicity

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Being posited by men like white are not the biblical nor the historically Orthodox doctrine of Christianity Now keep that in mind that term biblical

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Because We were just talking about what makes something biblical

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It is biblical That the I am statement in exodus 314 is connected to the use of that same phrase in Isaiah and And From that into the self -identification of Jesus as the

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I am in the Ohanian literature and possibly the Markan context as well That's biblical most people admit

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That the what's called the DDS The divine doctrine of simple of simplicity doctrine of God's simplicity whatever terminology you want to use

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That the form of that doctrine That is being not only emphasized but insisted upon today that specifically asserts that odd intra

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The attributes of God are one and indistinguishable See it's not it's not

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The basic doctrine that God is not made up of that part has almost disappeared.

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It's just it's That I think is what's most important for people to understand is that God is not made up of lesser parts but by Going beyond that and making an assertion about the internal Reality of God because that's what you're saying

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It that add intra in internally to God His attributes are one in the same

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So that his omniscience is his omnipresence is

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His mercy is his justice add extra outside of God in a metaphysically lesser sense

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In a way that is not definitional of the being of God. These things are distinguished for us

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But internally to God These are one The metaphysical assumption being that if they're not one then they're parts of which

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God's made up. I challenge that That is a metaphysical assumption that has no foundation scripture anywhere period nowhere

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But many people believe it traditions are traditions, yes But that is not you can not demonstrate that from Scripture.

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You can't And the more you try the more desperate it sounds so this this again is most people had never heard of any of this before and Yet now all of a sudden it is the thing it is the way to find out if you are truly

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Orthodox or not So I say that is an extended

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Primarily Thomistic Application of a divine truth. I believe in divine simplicity.

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I Don't believe God is made up of lesser parts. That is biblical No question about it, and I think

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I am that I am would at least be relevant to that Okay But now the assertion is no.

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No. No, that is not enough you have to go into an assert a positive assertion about the

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Internal reality of God himself. It is modern revision that denies the very thing it purports to revise

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I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I'm not denying simplicity. I'm denying a Thomistic Extension of what could biblically be defined as simplicity anyway,

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I have confidence some of these men will come to see the truth and abandon error as I once had to do myself

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Sinclair sermon here could be a helpful start So you have a sermon from Sinclair Ferguson on The simplicity of God and Here it is up here.

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We're going to listen to that particular section. This is the same one where at the end he does go into the My god, my god, why have you forsaken me material and and I would disagree with the application there, too but once again if if you've never sat in In a conference and Listened to someone speak and disagreed

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I Would could not call you a very disturbing person okay, I Really I really wouldn't that that would concern me

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I I have listened if especially someone like myself when

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I When I travel I listen to a lot of people who say things where I go

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And I'll be honest I'll have people walk up to me after someone else is spoken and they'll ask about it and I'll be honest

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And I'll say yeah, I I wouldn't put that way. Yeah, I'm not I wouldn't necessarily go there and if we're mature

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We can do that in love without stabbing somebody in the back and saying yeah, I just can't believe it this guy's clueless

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He's in error. I Hope he'll repent. I I hope he'll he'll come to see the truth and abandon his errors.

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I Mean, that's serious language. That's serious accusation really is It would be much better to to say

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Because because as far as I can see biblically that the best that can be said for this position is we think this is is is

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Incredible insight Into the nature of God. All right. Well, let's let's let's look at the scriptures about well, we're gonna

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We're gonna look at that in a moment. Well Let me be consistent here and then let's close up with this because I'm looking at the clock and that's gonna take some time, too

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So I responded To the brother And I said so Chad, I'm sorry

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You think someone is an error to not follow you in making these extended claims specifically the God's wrath is

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God's mercy or God's justice God's omniscience, by the way, some people have decided that God's wrath is not an attribute

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Okay. So we do want to just use justice because Some people would some people don't whatever

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I realize these assertions are based upon a metaphysical foundation It claims that if you can distinguish things in the mind, they are separable in nature

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In reality a common notion the medieval period especially But that important discussion aside, maybe you could do what no one

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I have yet Heard has done show me where I am in any way shape or form violating a single word of God's divine revelation in scripture.

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I Affirm God is one unchanging evident creator of all things eternally triune indivisible I simply do not believe any prophet or Apostle said indicated even thought that God's grace and mercy is the same attribute as God's justice and wrath

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I See no reason in Scripture to believe that what is true in God's revelation, which plainly distinguishes these attributes is untrue in God's being

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There are many things in God's being beyond us that he does not reveal to us And if you want to say that in some mysterious way your assertion is true in God, but it's not true in Revelation That is your prerogative

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But you have no basis saying a fellow believer is in error for not believing such an extended mysterious assertion that has no foundation in Scripture nor is it a necessary result of holding together the teachings of Scripture if you find the concept helpful fine

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But unless you can ground it firmly and unquestionably in Scripture binding my conscience to it is itself a grave error.

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Is it not? 177 people 86 replies just that one

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And I haven't even read all of them. I don't know how anybody keeps the the form of Facebook has been

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Horrific from the start. I'll be honest with you So Pastor Vegas was

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Very Kind to not not only respond

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But he invited me to invade a communist country and Have a chat with everybody and by the way,

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James Dolezal is one of his elders in his church so that's where this is coming from and I said

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I'm not coming to California, but There are other other places that things like that can take place in the future, but you know it

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I am Somewhat frustrated by the fact that in years past Before the

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Internet These types of controversy. Sometimes these type of countries never even got started because time would pass before an answer could be given and And even the old

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BBS days you'd at least have two or three days for a message would bounce back to think about things and Be emotionally calm and and things like that but I haven't even

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I guess we today sort of started on some of the biblical evidence because I Said what less than two weeks ago

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That I will interact with dr. Dolezal's Biblical presentation, what's the biblical evidence of simplicity?

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We can play the section from the 2015 Southern California Reformed Baptist Pastors Conference We can put the quotes on the screen

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We've got the books in Kindle that makes it nice and easy to throw up on the screen and do things like that Just like we did with Willem and Craig People still want to wait for that kind of stuff.

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That takes too long Well, yeah, I This isn't the only thing

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I do, you know still still dealing with issues relating to Molinism and Takes time.

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I don't nobody else puts this stuff together. Like I said, I'm down here alone. I Preached last

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Sunday. I still preach at a church I'll be doing the sexual ethics

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God's law and sexuality sermon January 16th. I hope everybody's remembering that John MacArthur's joined in with the with the fun shall we say and they're gonna preach on that subject on January 16th, and we're gonna be doing that apology and I'll be doing that sermon and so this isn't the only thing

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I do and Believe it or not in the midst of all this stuff. I'm still doing my CB CB GM research

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There's one thing I can guarantee you none of my all my critics All I have to do is show them a see a graph of CB GM and ask them to interpret any of it

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And they'd be going I have no earthly idea But yeah, I'm the number one that doesn't do any reading.

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Anyway, so I Let's have some patience some time, you know, this if this stuff is important This stuff's been big, you know,

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Aquinas died a long time ago. It's nothing We're we're probably gonna all end up in the same gulag together anyways, we'll have plenty of time

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Won't have any food or water. We'll have plenty of time to be debating these things at that particular point in time but Chad responded and I just want to say that I I appreciated the response but there was one part of it that just Grabbed me and I'm just gonna read it briefly comment on it.

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But this to me is This is the issue

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All right. He's talking about categories of things. We need just we need to talk about We really need to define sola scriptura and What our theological method is in light of it?

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You make demands in your comment above which plead too much.

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I Read you the comment. I Was pleading for too much First you demand for an accounting of divine simplicity

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Remember what I was asking for was that extension into the very internal being of God You demand for an accounting of divine simplicity on the basis of scripture alone

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Which while I think can be done. I do not believe ought to be done

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Let me repeat that you demand for an accounting of divine simplicity on the basis of scripture alone

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Which while I think can be done I do not believe ought to be done the doctrine of God excluding the

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Trinity is A mixed article of the faith

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We know it is true That would be the doctrine of God Excluding the

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Trinity. We know it is true from nature and Scripture Scripture teaches us that God reveals himself in both now.

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I Seriously thought about starting off in Romans 1 today because There is no doubt and now you now you see

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How all this is related to what? Dr. Johnson has been saying in his dealing with natural theology natural revelation

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Emphasizing that there is a difference between the two and there is Why I read the material from Muller on Program two programs ago

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Where Muller differentiates between different kinds of natural theology you've got is there a possibility of natural theology?

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From the unregenerate mind versus natural theology from the regenerate mind. There's all sorts of these things but the fact is this

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I was watching a EPS dialogue on Simplicity from a couple years ago.

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You can tell because I was wearing a mask That's what a what a division of time that is and One of the pro

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Thomist presenters in answering objections specifically said the beginning

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No Divine simplicity is not a biblical revelation

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It is it is it's again it like like William Lane Craig says about Molin ism. It's a

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It's consistent with it doesn't contradict Scripture, but it's not dry from Scripture and he was just straight -up fries.

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I think most most people would admit that I'm not sure if my fellow

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Reformed Baptists would admit that but the reality is the categories that allow you to go from God is not made up of lesser parts to The assertion that the attributes of God are one in him ad intra

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But distinguished ad extra so as to glorify him

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Very key issue that I don't see much discussion about the categories that allow that jump to the extended claim

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Come from quote -unquote natural theology. They do not come from Scripture They do there is absolutely positively nothing in the

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Bible that applying the same kinds of methodology that we were using just a moment ago and Looking at Exodus 3 and Isaiah and John Nothing Will lead you to that conclusion.

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It has to come from external considerations has to But there but think about that you demand for an accounting of divine simplicity on the basis of Scripture alone

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Which while I think can be done. I do not believe ought to be done That's an assertion that the proper theological method

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Is one that privileges natural theology with the ability to provide constitutive definitive elements of dogmatic belief

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I Deny it Deny it Romans 1

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God's Revelation gets through What gets through that he exists and we ought to glorify him and give thanks to him

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There is nothing in the natural order that gives us insight into the internal operations of God That requires his willful self -revelation

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I Never thought that there would ever be any dispute

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Amongst Reformed Baptists or anyone who's reformed on that issue never dreamed it I'm just trying to be consistent and I have been all along have been all along.

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All right, so Hmm Okay, I got a look through here like that, okay, this will be interesting.

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All right, let's Now I'm hoping this is gonna work We tested stuff as best we could

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And I'm hoping I'm gonna be able to hear it so let this is this is hey this first time folks if this works

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I'll give rich all the credit. Sure. I thought of it today, but I'll give rich all the credit

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Let's see what happens to the Lord. But Lord, who are you when the people say to me?

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What is his name? What am I to say in response? Jehovah gives this

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Enigmatic answer that has puzzled the theologians and the exegetes ever since I Who I Tell them

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I Has sent you And among all the other things

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God is saying I am the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob I am the God who has come down to deliver you in redeeming power with my outstretched right hand

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He is also saying to Moses There is nothing that you can provide by way of analogy to Describe who

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I am in the very quintessence of my being I simply

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Sometimes Scholars suggest that the Hebrew mind was so different from the

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Greek mind the thoughts of the divine simplicity that seemed to be such a

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Metaphysical philosophical idea could never have been part of Old Testament scriptures revelation

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But the truth of the matter is that the Hebrew mind was perfectly capable of grasping metaphysical truth

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It was just a custom to grasping that metaphysical truth through the historical revelation of God in space and time

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Now, let me just say That's an important statement It is commonly assumed that The That the

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Tanakh the Hebrew scriptures has a Hopelessly muddled and simplistic metaphysical foundation and I disagree with that Obviously But what is different in?

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The Hebrew mindset he's right they base their metaphysics upon what?

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divine revelation so if we follow their lead our concern should always be

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To be making sure that our metaphysics are derived from divine revelation and when we discover

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That there is a tradition That maybe men we really really really respect in the past or even today hold that requires us to embrace a metaphysics

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Not found in Scripture What should be our duty and here in this remarkable way when

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God says to Moses I am who I am he provides as it were a space -time illustration of what that means in this bush that was burning and Yet was not consumed

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The fire that was in the bush Present in the bush, but preserving the bush

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It was a symbol of God's redemptive power But notice especially the fire that was in the bush, but was not dependent on the bush for its energy to burn a fire that was independent of That on which all fire depends a fire that was in a bush without burning up the bush a most pure fire a fire that was nothing but fire a

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Fire that was not a compound of other energy sources But had its energy source in itself as though God in this

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Singularity were saying to Moses Moses in your pilgrimage here.

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You will never encounter another Analogy of who I am the ever -living ever being

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God who cannot ultimately be Described in any other terms than I am who

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I am If you want to know who I am Then you cannot get to know who

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I am without knowing who I am There is no other way

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And so not surprising that he finds himself as we're told in verse six hiding his face because he was afraid to look at God as the philosopher

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Nietzsche said sometimes in his ravings sometimes Expressing the truth of the human heart with stark

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Simplicity if this be God, how can I bear? Not to be this

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God because his very existence Threatens the weakness of my existence.

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So what do we mean when we speak about the simplicity of God? We mean by the simplicity of God That God is not a compound of anything

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God is not Dependent upon his attributes for his being

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God is not the consequence of those attributes being balanced together

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Okay. Now, let me Again normally when

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This position is being presented This is the argument that's being made that God is not the sum total of his attributes agreed

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Attributes are not things. They're not building blocks You don't have wrath sitting over there or justice sitting over there or omniscience sitting over there infallibility over there

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They're there you can't buy any of it. You can't weigh any of it. They're true statements about God's being

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But they don't make up God. You don't put a bunch of attributes together and get God You can't take an attribute out and get something less than God You The only way you could take an attribute

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I've got is to lie because they're true statements about God's being Which is why God is glorified in our seeing and understanding his attributes because they speak truth about him

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They're perfectly balanced with one another There is no division in God he is not made up of lesser parts

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All those things are true Absolutely No question about it.

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We haven't gotten to the extended assertion have we? We haven't gotten to the part where you've got the chasm you got to jump over To then say yeah, that means his

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Omnipotence is his omniscience That means his his justice is also his grace

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Where the the the distinction of those things which God is glorified in our recognizing at extra

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At intra have to has to disappear. I Say to you that is only

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Because of a metaphysical consideration there is nothing in the biblical teaching of attribute to anything else that requires that What we just said we can agree with right?

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Okay God Simply is God when the older theologians

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Wrote about this and spoke about this one of the things that they emphasized about this

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Was the simplicity of God? Harmonized beautifully with the attributes of God But the simplicity of God harmonized perfectly with the

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Trinity of God But the simplicity of God evoked wonderfully

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Doxology to God And I want us as we close our day to meditate for a few minutes on these three things the simplicity of God and his attributes the simplicity of God and his

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Trinity the simplicity of God and our worship First of all the simplicity of God and his attributes the simplicity of God means this

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That the being of God and the attributes of God are one with each other that the essence of God's being and the attributes of God's Possession are not two different things that by some kind of inner divine

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Superglue are held together But are in fact one and the same thing

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God is his attributes now this requires that Metaphysical foundation where you

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Notice that the illustration is super glued together. What are you doing?

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You are concretizing Attributes you're turning them into a substance

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That is then distinguished from the essence of God and now God is complex He's made up of stuff and you gotta glue them together.

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I wasn't gonna do this and I next week I'll have another way of doing it even better, but I have it so why not

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I did some shopping Now I if we if if I was

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Joel Osteen I would have punched through the bathroom wall and made this a diamond We put rich what would be fine if we punched to the bathroom wall here not much

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So I got it's it's just a it's just a crystal But let's can we pretend it's a diamond.

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Can we can we do that? Let's let's pretend it's a diamond And right now there are a number of different lights shining on this as it moves

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I'm seeing all sorts of different facets of it. I can see it reflecting on the on the Podium top in front of me and there are different colors all different colors.

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The rainbow are Coming from this crystal now

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The facets of the crystal are distinguishable to my eyes The colors are different the colors change depending on which lights and what's in the background and there's yellows and greens and blues

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It's very very very pretty. That's what they're sort of designed to be. Oh, hi But it's only one crystal and the yellows are really yellows and the blues are really blues and the greens are really greens and Is my assertion is my assertion that there's only one indivisible

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Crystal Compromised When I recognize that oh that reflections blue and oh that reflections yellow

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No, because they're both true I'm not dividing it up. I'm not I'm not saying it's made up of these things.

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They are true statements about it's one being so if we say

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God's being cannot be divided up into parts and it's not made of lesser parts, but That they're but that it's very

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Nature is such That to know it truly we need to know

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God's omniscience. We need to know God's omnipotence. We need to know God's justice.

01:22:30

We know God's wrath We need we need to know these things and God has has revealed these things to us.

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That doesn't mean That it's not one crystal does it? Why would it?

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Well, it would in the medieval period because the medievals Functioned on an epistemology and metaphysics

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The basically said if you could imagine it in your mind then it exists in reality So the entire ontological argument the whole great making thing

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The whole whole concept of that is based upon that kind of metaphysics Nobody in the

01:23:11

Bible functioned on that basis So, why should I? Why should

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I? It's what I'm asking and It is not appropriate answer to say because people in the past have

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I am NOT saying you just throw out all of church history, by the way. I'm not I'm saying that the filter through which you will

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Best appreciate church history is that which is provided by the lens of Scripture That which is theanoustos and by the way

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There is one thing that is theanoustos The church is not theanoustos

01:23:47

Creation and nature is not theanoustos There is one thing that is theanoustos

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Scripture all Scripture pasa grafe theanoustos Once you start trying to expand that category

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Bad bad things gonna happen bad bad things That's different from you and from me

01:24:15

You and I have attributes, but we lose one of that attributes For example, we are kind and gentle and something happens to us and we become malicious and personally dangerous we lose that Attribute people say he used to be so characterized by kindness

01:24:35

But he's lost it all it was too much for him and he lost it all and yet You are still the same person.

01:24:43

You are still the same man the same woman You are not identical with your attributes your essence and your attributes are two different things

01:24:53

But the essence of God's being is his attributes and his attributes are his essence

01:25:06

It isn't that God has goodness God is goodness

01:25:14

It isn't that God has Holiness it is that God is holiness but the holiness that he has is the holiness that he is and That the goodness he has by which he is good is actually the goodness that he is

01:25:36

But the attributes of God are not as it were Attached to his being

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This is what he is Okay up to this point again

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We can we can agree with all of this the But behind this we are hearing one thing

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We recognize God is goodness That it's not just simply something added to him from outside we get that but there's more to it to the metaphysics here

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The metaphysics are insisting that existence in essence cannot be that again.

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We're going back to Thomas. Okay and There are a lot of problems that could be raised about this

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That we haven't even gotten into yet I'm just wanting to respond to this particular aspect of it so you can see how it fleshes out because look vast majority people

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Never heard of any of this before And I'm not gonna spend the rest of my life on it either. I can assure you that But we do have people who

01:26:44

I mean, I've gotten some text messages like So Someone says you're not a

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Trinitarian anymore. It's stuff like this like Oh brother so and There there's a lot of things.

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I I don't do well, but one thing I do do well is I can Help explain difficult things so that a lot of people can understand it

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And I think that's somewhat frightening to some people because I can now of course if you do that Then people accuse you of misrepresenting it.

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You're straw manning it. That's not really, you know, it's how many times do you don't understand Molinism? Okay, fine, whatever

01:27:26

Same thing here. I just don't understand. You just haven't read enough had a young 20 -something.

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Yeah, you know fellas Like you just need to sit down and listen learn Okay, and There's everyone all of us have things to be learning.

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No question about it. I try to keep doing that every single day and That's fine, that's wonderful, but You you take away some of the language and Help people understand what's really being said and it's like well, wait a minute.

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Yeah. Why why do I have to believe that? Hmm interesting Through and through And the implication of that is if you will follow me for a moment that if his being and his attributes are one

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With each other then his attributes and his attributes are also one with each other which is to say that his goodness is his holiness and His holiness is his goodness and His righteousness is his holiness and his goodness and his goodness is his holiness and his righteousness

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And that these are not many things in God as they are Discrete and distinct things in you and in me, but these are one and the same thing in God This is who

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God is in a sense. We could say God has only one attribute

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He is only one attribute and his attribute is

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Godness All right, well

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That's what happens when you you make the leap to the other side of the chasm and You say all these things

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That God is intent add extra. He didn't go into the add extra add interest Turretin did

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I think Turretin felt the the problem here and So add extra

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God's attributes interact with each other we thought about that What what does

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God's mercy and grace do it fulfills His justice and therefore the necessary wrath that falls upon sin

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So there's an interplay between two clearly differentiated in scripture attributes right, but while we glorify

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God for what those two distinguishable Necessarily distinguishable not just because we're temporal beings and not just because we use human language the the the very essence of redemption at the cross

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Means that God's justice is not His grace they are related they come from one

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God They're absolutely in harmony with one another but you have to distinguish between them if you say they are the same thing, you cannot communicate anything to us to glorify

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God and So this physician says well, but that's just externally

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So what we glorify God for? externally is false in him that So it's being said and when you ask why and you ask

01:31:22

Show us some scripture. Well that ought not be done. Okay Not okay as in I'm gonna accept that but okay, that's your position we'll

01:31:35

Talk some more about it in the future Okay. Wow, we went long and It worked

01:31:44

Congratulations Very very much. Yes. Well, that's gonna be hard to do in what

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I have it playing on but I'll do my best I can't cue it up ahead of time, unfortunately, so I'm gonna try to cue the music up here

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But it's gonna be it's gonna be a little bit difficult to do Just keep it real low rich and then

01:32:03

I'll get it down there How's that but thanks for watching the program today my sincere. Thanks to Rich Pierce for making this work.

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This is amazing That we got this to happen this thing really really does help to do this kind of discussion and So I I think it was great to be able to have it and I do hope that you have a safe New Year's Eve To certain dear brothers and friends of mine look

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If you blow your head off tonight I I get your remarkable to tablet.

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I'll just use as a backup just saying it, you know Just just just the way it is Have a safe enjoyable evening tonight and as you're looking toward 2022

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We have great challenges, but we have a greater God let us press forward together and Let us seek to advance his kingdom even in very very very dark times

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So thanks for watching the program today, and we will see you next time on the dividing line.