August 16, 2022 Show with Andy Woodard on “New York’s Spiritual Legacy”

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I have as a returning guest a very important pastor who is going to be

talking about a very important topic and also promoting a very important conference.

His name is Andy Woodard, pastor of Providence Baptist Church of New York City,

one of the very few churches in that great city of New York

that has not been overcome by, infiltrated by,

swayed by the horrible and cancerous

heresies of critical race theory and the woke movement and

all these other intrusions that have been eclipsing the gospel

in churches and denominations that were formerly known to be biblically faithful and conservative.

And Andy Woodard is remaining steadfast and unwavering in

his declaration of biblical truth and his exposing and condemning of error

such as those heresies that I mentioned.

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there if you haven't already.

Today we are going to be addressing New York's spiritual legacy and we're also going to be

announcing the Nonconformist Ministries Conference later this month on the theme,

Faithful.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharp and Zion Radio, Pastor Andy Woodard.

Tell our listeners in more detail something about Providence Baptist Church of New York City.

So Providence, that's a mouthful, so

sometimes we just call it PBC and we are a Reformed Baptist church that meets on the Upper East

Side of Memphis.

We began two years ago in August of 2020 and a Reformed

Baptist church

that right now we're averaging around 70 -75 people on a Sunday.

And making disciples, baptizing,

being a simple Bible.

And if anybody wants more details on Providence Baptist Church of New York City, go to pbc

.nyc.

Pbc, for Providence Baptist Church, dot n -y -c.

And I'm sure I will be repeating that towards the end of the program.

Well, tell us about this exciting conference that you have coming up.

And I'm going to try to attend it the best that I can.

Coming up later this month.

And I really am excited to hear about the

speakers at this conference.

Including my old friend of many years, Michael O 'Fallon, who in fact will be on

Iron Sharpens Iron Radio this Thursday to continue a promotion of this

conference.

But tell us about this conference and also about the speakers.

So this is actually our second December.

And I was there.

I was there and loved every minute of it.

Kind of the title of it, or the theme, was A Line in the Sand.

And issues

like

critical

race, move the

ball down the field and not get stuck

talking about CRT forever.

Because CRT is not the only issue and it's not

the only invading the church or society

towards

being an

encouragement.

So

that's why the

evangelicals across America are somewhat informed.

Like they don't have to be an expert.

But if they know anything about New York evangelicalism, hey, what do you think of Christianity in New

York?

Recent memory would be, well, examples like the governor preaching,

saying you need to be my apostles for a vaccine.

And

there

would be a

Muslim woman.

Or there

would be no

one ever learned of their sin.

And these are names, the most prominent

evangelical influences in recent years in New York City.

Come to mind when you think of New York Christianity is not

New York,

you knew, hey,

that's the

city dominated by the gospel.

Thinking about it.

Now you have returning from the last conference that I was at,

Michael O 'Fallon, who I mentioned earlier, founder of Sovereign Nations.

And you also have returning Mike Abendroth, who I've had on this program as well

several times, senior pastor of Bethlehem Bible Church.

And that's in Massachusetts.

He's also the host of the daily broadcast No Compromise Radio, along with

his co -pastor Steve Cooley.

But you have some new, oh, actually, also John Benzinger, pastor of Redeemer Bible Church

in Gilbert, Arizona, who will be returning.

And he hosts the Redeemer Bible Church podcast.

So you now have coming men that you did not have speak last time.

You had Patrick Abendroth.

I'm assuming he is a relation of Mike because he, in fact, even looks a lot like Mike.

And David Lovie, very fascinating brother, who I had the privilege of meeting

with you.

Well, you already knew him, but he was with you, and I met him at the G3 conference in Atlanta.

Perhaps that was a year ago or more.

And it was a joy to get to know David, and it was good to

experience hearty laughter again, enjoying fellowship with

David, and a new face and name

coming to the conference, and speaking at your conference is Brian Ottinger,

director of Expansion Love Life USA.

Tell us about some of these speakers in more depth and

why you invited them and the themes on which they'll be speaking.

You could go through all of them, if you'd like, briefly.

In my

opinion,

he's also got

Mike.

He's the guide in

understanding what's a

guide, and I wanted someone to

speak on

that.

I'm not certain something

like

diversity and

out

at TMS.

It's that, hey, Andy, I know exactly what you're going through.

We had that

same thing

happen to us six

years

ago,

the

DEMAN program.

And I live

up in the area

to speak on the topic

of ministry.

Is it all about faithfulness, or is it all about truthfulness?

And the reason I asked him to speak on that is

because it's

on faithfulness, but that's the wrong paradigm.

And instead, you need to be focused on truthfulness.

In other words, it's all about results.

We found that

actually John and

his message, and then

Mike is going to be speaking on connections and connection between

faith and faithfulness, and particularly justification.

There's a lot of theological controversies and debates,

like federal vision, and are we

justified by faith, or are we justified by faithfulness?

Mike is going to

be

listening to

what's called the Paxum,

and a theology podcast before, but he's a

Javendroth, and I know that if Mike is a friend of mine, then I'll probably like

Pat and his

DEMAN down at

Ligonier, back when

the Ascension.

A classmate of mine, also

a program at

TMS,

coming to New York and speaking at the event from generation

to generation.

And

then at

the end, Ben

Oettinger, he is the

director of expansion for Love Life.

Love Life is

Love Life

as far as

we

see, probably two to three babies saved a week.

Praise God.

And it's been incredible.

We used to go out on the sidewalks before we got connected with Love Life, and trying to

minister to these abortion -minded mothers, and in a year or two of

doing that, I mean, we were out there four or five days a week, and we literally saw one turn around.

Now through training with Love Life, and

just when one person is speaking to the mom, let the one person who's talking to her talk, and don't

try to butt in.

Just simple things like that to your sidewalk counselors.

And so through that, we've seen this incredible increase in over 100 babies

saved last year.

Hallelujah.

These moms

are then like really walk -along,

Christian -minded,

more geared toward

that lobby for bill

work, but New York is like 95%.

The idea of passing any kind of legislation,

again, same with

title we've got right now is New York

and our way of thinking and our ministry and our lives.

That's the quick rundown on the conferences, on the conference and the messages.

Great.

Well, if anybody is interested in attending this conference, and if you live anywhere

near Manhattan, that is in New York, of course.

There is at least one other Manhattan in Kansas, and there are a couple of other Manhattans, but this

is the real Manhattan.

If you are interested, and you should be interested, if you live near New York, New York,

I would strongly urge you to go to the Providence

Baptist Church of New York City website, pbc .nyc, and

click on Conference Registration.

That's pbc, for Providence Baptist Church, dot nyc, and click on Conference

Registry.

You will not be disappointed.

And we are going to be discussing today the

theme that you are likely going to be addressing at the conference,

New York's spiritual legacy.

What is it about New York that has such

a heritage that you could even develop a

conference around it?

New York has become so liberal and even leftist,

and the population there over and over and over again

amazingly keeps reelecting people that are destroying that city.

I don't even understand, it's mind -boggling how even the

liberals there would want to see their

phenomenal restaurants shut down and taken away from them, as

happened during the ridiculous and tyrannical

season of mandates over COVID.

In fact, my late wife and I treasured a restaurant,

a Russian restaurant in Manhattan called Firebird, that has forever closed its doors

as a result, and I'm sure there are many others.

And also the theater.

All these are the things that, I mean, not only liberals love them, I love those things, but

liberals are known, they're identified in Manhattan with all those things.

They very often run these things.

You can't go to a Broadway play without seeing

noticeably homosexual staff working there.

And you wonder, how could they allow these things to be taken away from them?

But people, because they see New York for what it has become, they may not realize

that there were some extraordinary revivals that began

there by the grace of God.

There were extraordinary gospel ministers over the centuries that were there.

Why don't you tell us about some of this?

Yeah, New York

City

was making money.

Unlike some of the other colonies in the United States,

Liberty or, you know, by pilgrims, well, New York was founded

to make money.

And understanding that is the

thing that might be obvious for

somebody who's from this area, probably don't really think about it,

but you

don't just have

the flow in

this

metro

complex.

Now, New York still is.

Manhattan wasn't an island.

And

there would

be,

for instance, in the

height of trying to maximize a

limited amount of

New

York

City's

founding,

being

founded

by

the Dutch as

a trip.

And tragically, now an apostate church in the RCA, Marble Collegiate Church.

Yeah, now Marble Collegiate is in Midtown.

Yeah, I know personally one of the very, very rare pastors who remains faithful to the scriptures is

solidly conservative and reformed and against egalitarianism,

Pastor Y .C. Tan in New Hyde Park, Long Island.

But right now, he's the only name I can think of.

Exactly.

Okay, yeah, a friend of mine,

he's

a new pastor at

Chelsea, called Manor Community Church.

And Manor was started as the Chelsea

Manor Chapel because the neighborhood we called, and

through Marble

Collegiate Church in Midtown, they wanted

to have a chapel,

and that church was RCA Church.

The Bible

was initiated by,

even

that

didn't

come

nationwide, and

they estimate the

revival spread

through sermons by Spurgeon, and the date on that is 1858, 1859.

And so what came shortly

after was believed

that in sending the revival, it would save

a great number of these people that would then end up dying.

Revival

connection

or started.

In fact, pick up, reluctantly, pick up on Charles Finney when we return from our first break

because we've got to go into our first break right now.

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conference titled Faithful.

If you have a question, submit it to chrisarnson at gmail .com.

We left off, you were listing noted Christian and

pseudo Christian leaders, prominent names from history that were

affiliated with New York City.

One of them, the last one that you named was the false

Christian, the charlatan, the plagianist Charles Finney.

If you could pick up where you left off there.

In all fairness to Billy Graham, as much as he was riddled with theological problems, he

wasn't as heretical as Finney.

I just wanted to insert that in there.

Yes,

he died in New

York State.

He was raised there

and he became very disillusioned.

He

denied

original sin.

What we mean by that is that humanity has fallen in Adam.

We sinned all.

Adam sinned as our federal head,

the individual.

Not only could or

should or you must,

he also denied penal substitutionary atonement and what we mean by that is the idea that Christ

is in our place.

Finney denied that.

Behavior modification.

He wrote

Theology

of the Great Awakening.

He was involved in that.

It was marked by if I think of George Whitefield, for example,

is

marked

by.

Then

this ties in with his New Measures.

New Measures is another term that he coined.

New Measures may not necessarily

be factored.

If you follow these steps, a

few of the

more tactics or measures involved things like the altar call.

The altar call was kind of fallen out of favor in recent years, but for

a hundred years the altar call was the idea that at the end of the message you would have a

prayer.

Then what

they

would

call it,

the sawdust trail

is literally in between

sawdust in weeks and months of all these revival meetings,

the aisles would get very muddy.

If you would walk

the aisle and you come to the anxious bench, if you're not crying enough, if you're not sorry enough, if you're not

emotional enough because conversion was primarily about an emotion, and so you would come up and sit on the

anxious bench in your

hands, so more

tears.

Part of that was highly emotive or manipulative music that would be

points where all, he

got

results.

He got people to come forward.

If you're

looking for a

really good book on that, you can read Ian Murray's book Revival and

Revivalism, The Making and Marring of American Evangelicalism.

In many ways,

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and thought

and

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directly into pragmatic Christianity.

Pragmatic Christianity basically says if it works, we do it.

If it doesn't work, it must be bad.

Church

marketing

movement

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I'm sure all of this is true.

And it's a tragedy that Asahel Nettleton who was a

preacher during those same years as Finney rose to the height of

popularity.

Finney is the one that is still lauded and

praised by especially fundamentalists which is very strange because fundamentalists

typically rightfully declare the heresies of Roman Catholicism

and yet Finney was more of a Pelagianist than Rome.

So it's very bizarre but it's a shame that Asahel Nettleton who is the figure that Ian

Murray contrasts against Finney in his book Revival and

Revivalism.

It's a shame that hardly anybody knows who Asahel Nettleton is.

But we have to go to our first break right now.

I mean, I'm sorry, our midway break.

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Pastor Andy, I want you to pick up where you left off if you haven't completed your thought, and I'm hoping

that we also get to highlight more of the great men of God

whose examples we want to follow and benefit from, whose legacy we want to

introduce to a whole new audience like the aforementioned

Ichabod Spencer like great 18th century Christian

heroes like Gardner Spring, like other great 19th century heroes in New York

City like Spencer Cone and we could go on and on, if you could pick up where you left off

and let's continue.

Talks about new

measures

came

out

of

that and then I believe it's Phil Johnson

uses the expression, he says.

It's as if every demon from release and

all of these in the wake of Charles Finney

is also considered

part of that

through William Miller the seventh day of Venice and

then the Mormon

church

started

lots

of

churches.

Yeah, Stephen

H.

Ting from the 19th century has written some treasures of literature

published by Solid Ground Christian Books and he was a well

-known.

At the time, he was a well -known.

Bulwark.

Of biblical orthodoxy he's not tragically well -known or even known much at

all today but a great man of God for sure.

Yeah, and then men

wearing

collars and then speak with them.

For sure.

Just to interject here for the sake of giving our listeners caution.

I know a lot of conservative reformed Anglicans and some even within the

ACNA and you have to approach each congregation individually

with a bit of caution and skepticism because they are a very mixed bag.

I just thought I'd insert that in there.

I didn't.

Anglican, Episcopal, whatever that actually would believe the gospel and be relatively

in my upbringing.

There was none of that

and a lot of the Episcopal

and then their buildings are gone now but a lot of the even

if they're Sunday and.

And the irony of any liberal touting Gandhi as a

hero what many people if not the vast majority of people don't realize is that Gandhi.

Was.

Without question a racist.

You can hear an interview I did years ago.

Called.

Behind the Mask of Divinity which is a biography of Gandhi

exposing his racism people view him as a great hero of equal

rights but what they fail to realize is that he was only a

champion for equal rights for the Indian people to be treated

equally with white British folk and white South

African folks.

He hated black people and it is very clear it could be very easily verified in

going to the internet to the collected works of Mahatma Gandhi and

till the day he died he referred to black people as kafirs which is the South

African slang term that would be equivalent to the N word here in the United States

and in most places.

So these liberals have really got to start doing their homework because they're really absurd.

But anyway.

And that's going to be devout

people that show up every Sunday to the most nominal kafir but nevertheless huge percentage

of New Yorkers

that figure roughly 8 million.

Next to Judaism you've got orthodox, ultra -orthodox.

Judaism is the most progressive

and then orthodox in

neighborhoods

in Manhattan as well but not very strong.

And just to insert here also a lot of people don't know that chosen people ministries

which began in the 19th century in Brooklyn, New York was started

through the evangelistic efforts of Calvinist Presbyterians.

Who.

In their evangelism efforts led a rabbi to Christ who

then sparked a great work of evangelism to the Jewish

people that still exists today and Mitch Glaser who continues to.

Lead.

Chosen people ministries.

Although a dispensationalist is a five point Calvinist I just thought I'd throw that out there.

And

then

according

to Pew

Research

I think they estimate that it's around 8

Looking

at them, you passed 99 and 99 out of 100.

Do not an evangelical church.

Manhattan is the least evangelical of the

five

evangelical.

Christianity goes talking about

history and legacy that could have

been written on that and trying to

push back against the black church not being as doctrinal or conservative

but the ones

that

are so called evangelical

but

they do

exist

and

I

was.

Thrilled to meet at the banner of truth conference as were you Pastor Otis Buckley.

Form theology

out of a.

I'm finding that

somewhat common

but

when

you're

looking

at.

Now.

As I said earlier are there going to be at the conference highlighted any

of the wonderful men of God whose legacy we are

trying to revive in places like New York like the aforementioned Ichabod Spencer

and Gardner Spring and Spencer Cone and other heroes of the faith that

lives in centuries past in New York.

Yes so I would like to do that.

More names that you.

Ichabod Spencer is the only one of these

nicknamed the bunion of Brooklyn and has his

speaking and

less

others that have been made like logic on fire or the Calvinist documentary.

So Tim wants to do a film about or create a film about Ichabod Spencer wants to shoot

that in Brooklyn.

I'll be sure to tell Mike Gadosh that the founder of solid ground Christian books because of the

fact as I mentioned earlier they have brought back into print a pastor's

sketches and once again anybody listening who would like to get a hold of that book go to solid

-ground -books .com and that's a pastor's sketches by Ichabod Spencer.

A -C -H -A B -O -D.

Spencer.

And of course I think I've mentioned to you in the past that

my friend John Thornberry wrote the biography of

Spencer Cone titled a pastor in New York the life and times of Spencer Cone.

That is so remarkable that somebody who has the funding

and the talent should create a movie about this guy's life because it

is absolutely amazing.

He was not only a lawyer and a teacher at one point but he was a

stage actor who left that career because he became

convicted that it was not proper for a Christian to be participating in that kind of

activity.

And keep in mind this was the 19th century he was a war of 1812

hero was a pastor involved in all kinds of theological

conflicts that were going on in New York City of the day.

And he was standing firm for biblical truth just a utterly remarkable man.

So I'm hoping that.

That happens

one day.

Yes,

funding

for making these films like it cost a lot of money to make it happen but what they found is that they can

raise the funding through it could

be done.

Talk to David if you can come to this

conference otherwise I'll try to connect you with Tim.

Do you know.

Tim Cannon?

I met Tim at the G3 conference and in fact it was intended that I

would be interviewed for the cessationist documentary and the morning that they wanted to meet with

me to film that interview.

I was sick and wanted to make sure that I slept properly

late to regain strength to be back at my exhibitors booth at the G3

conference.

But we're going to our final break right now and if anybody wants to submit a question

to Andy Woodard I would advise you do it very soon because we are rapidly running out of time

and our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com.

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I'd like you now to summarize in several minutes, uninterrupted, what you

most want our listeners to know not only about your conference, but about what

is burdening your heart about the city of New York where you serve as a shepherd of God's

people.

Are you there, Pastor Randy?

Pastor Randy, are you there?

Hey, good to

see

you.

They

think that

bending to cultural and religious pressure

is predated

by where it's going to leave.

Having the financial pressure want you

to appease

them.

One of the

muscle up and try harder, do better.

I

believe

our last conference was incredibly encouraging and I think that this next one is also going to be very encouraging.

And so if we have listeners anywhere in the New York area and they would like to come, we'd

love to have them come.

And if they want to come but they can't afford it or money is an issue,

free is

not a problem.

Now,.

How hard is it for you as a pastor.

To keep.

An optimistic attitude in a very dark city like

New York, spiritually dark especially.

Where.

It seems you could hardly find a faithful voice that

is unwaveringly committed to the scriptures at all cost.

If people are not being overtaken by the woke movement

and liberalism, they are being silent about these dangers.

They, perhaps because of the astronomical cost of rent

for facilities in New York City and other matters that involve finances, they are

just terrified of people leaving and they are

compromising what they are presenting from the pulpit.

And.

It's just one of the most leftist mission fields on the planet.

How do you keep motivated with an optimistic attitude about the ability of

God to change things radically which is

within his power to do.

It might not be in his will to do that in New York City, but it is certainly within his power to do.

How do you keep motivated about this?

I'm post -millennial, I don't have an up -and -to -the -right attitude.

Theology, like my confidence in Christ's power of a

reason, God has given me a personality that I'm just not really, that

has to be significant to

get

me down, but the other thing is, like

someone told about

talking to someone and they're like, well, why are you going there?

Nobody wears shoes here.

And he's like, well, because nobody wears shoes here, that means everybody is eligible to buy what I'm selling.

Because that means, like, everybody's eligible, like, hey, everybody's, everybody needs to go

to church and they need the gospel, they need Christ, and they're not currently a

follower of Jesus.

I think, like, hey, it's what you could

use for it, but rather be,

because I'm

like, well, why wouldn't I be

encouraged?

People, the members and attendees of the church

coming in with a desire to hear the Word and to be in a faithful church.

What's not to love?

What's not to, like, why wouldn't I be encouraged getting to do

ministry?

Well, don't forget.

Folks, if you want to attend the Non -Conformist Ministries Conference

on the theme Faithful from August 25th through the 27th at Providence Baptist

Church in New York City, go to pbc .nyc and click

on Conference Registration.

Also, don't forget, if anybody wants to purchase a book by a faithful pastor

in 19th Century New York City, Ichabod Spencer, A Pastor's Sketches is

the title of the book, and go to solid -ground -books .com solid -ground -books .com and

there are many other books that will fascinate you in their catalog.

I want to thank you so much, Pastor Andy, for doing such a great job today.

I want to thank everybody who listened, and I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus

Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.