August 16, 2022 Show with Andy Woodard on “New York’s Spiritual Legacy”
August 16, 2022
ANDY WOODARD, Pastor of Providence Baptist Church of New York City, who will address:
“NEW YORK’s SPIRITUAL LEGACY”
& announcing the upcoming Nonconformist Ministries conference in Manhattan: this month: “FAITHFUL!”
Transcript
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I have as a returning guest a very important pastor who is going to be
talking about a very important topic and also promoting a very important conference.
His name is Andy Woodard, pastor of Providence Baptist Church of New York City,
one of the very few churches in that great city of New York
that has not been overcome by, infiltrated by,
swayed by the horrible and cancerous
heresies of critical race theory and the woke movement and
all these other intrusions that have been eclipsing the gospel
in churches and denominations that were formerly known to be biblically faithful and conservative.
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his declaration of biblical truth and his exposing and condemning of error
such as those heresies that I mentioned.
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there if you haven't already.
Today we are going to be addressing New York's spiritual legacy and we're also going to be
announcing the Nonconformist Ministries Conference later this month on the theme,
Faithful.
And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharp and Zion Radio, Pastor Andy Woodard.
Tell our listeners in more detail something about Providence Baptist Church of New York City.
So Providence, that's a mouthful, so
sometimes we just call it PBC and we are a Reformed Baptist church that meets on the Upper East
Side of Memphis.
We began two years ago in August of 2020 and a Reformed
Baptist church
that right now we're averaging around 70 -75 people on a Sunday.
And making disciples, baptizing,
being a simple Bible.
And if anybody wants more details on Providence Baptist Church of New York City, go to pbc
.nyc.
Pbc, for Providence Baptist Church, dot n -y -c.
And I'm sure I will be repeating that towards the end of the program.
Well, tell us about this exciting conference that you have coming up.
And I'm going to try to attend it the best that I can.
Coming up later this month.
And I really am excited to hear about the
speakers at this conference.
Including my old friend of many years, Michael O 'Fallon, who in fact will be on
Iron Sharpens Iron Radio this Thursday to continue a promotion of this
conference.
But tell us about this conference and also about the speakers.
So this is actually our second December.
And I was there.
I was there and loved every minute of it.
Kind of the title of it, or the theme, was A Line in the Sand.
And issues
like
critical
race, move the
ball down the field and not get stuck
talking about CRT forever.
Because CRT is not the only issue and it's not
the only invading the church or society
towards
being an
encouragement.
So
that's why the
evangelicals across America are somewhat informed.
Like they don't have to be an expert.
But if they know anything about New York evangelicalism, hey, what do you think of Christianity in New
York?
Recent memory would be, well, examples like the governor preaching,
saying you need to be my apostles for a vaccine.
And
there
would be a
Muslim woman.
Or there
would be no
one ever learned of their sin.
And these are names, the most prominent
evangelical influences in recent years in New York City.
Come to mind when you think of New York Christianity is not
New York,
you knew, hey,
that's the
city dominated by the gospel.
Thinking about it.
Now you have returning from the last conference that I was at,
Michael O 'Fallon, who I mentioned earlier, founder of Sovereign Nations.
And you also have returning Mike Abendroth, who I've had on this program as well
several times, senior pastor of Bethlehem Bible Church.
And that's in Massachusetts.
He's also the host of the daily broadcast No Compromise Radio, along with
his co -pastor Steve Cooley.
But you have some new, oh, actually, also John Benzinger, pastor of Redeemer Bible Church
in Gilbert, Arizona, who will be returning.
And he hosts the Redeemer Bible Church podcast.
So you now have coming men that you did not have speak last time.
You had Patrick Abendroth.
I'm assuming he is a relation of Mike because he, in fact, even looks a lot like Mike.
And David Lovie, very fascinating brother, who I had the privilege of meeting
with you.
Well, you already knew him, but he was with you, and I met him at the G3 conference in Atlanta.
Perhaps that was a year ago or more.
And it was a joy to get to know David, and it was good to
experience hearty laughter again, enjoying fellowship with
David, and a new face and name
coming to the conference, and speaking at your conference is Brian Ottinger,
director of Expansion Love Life USA.
Tell us about some of these speakers in more depth and
why you invited them and the themes on which they'll be speaking.
You could go through all of them, if you'd like, briefly.
In my
opinion,
he's also got
Mike.
He's the guide in
understanding what's a
guide, and I wanted someone to
speak on
that.
I'm not certain something
like
diversity and
out
at TMS.
It's that, hey, Andy, I know exactly what you're going through.
We had that
same thing
happen to us six
years
ago,
the
DEMAN program.
And I live
up in the area
to speak on the topic
of ministry.
Is it all about faithfulness, or is it all about truthfulness?
And the reason I asked him to speak on that is
because it's
on faithfulness, but that's the wrong paradigm.
And instead, you need to be focused on truthfulness.
In other words, it's all about results.
We found that
actually John and
his message, and then
Mike is going to be speaking on connections and connection between
faith and faithfulness, and particularly justification.
There's a lot of theological controversies and debates,
like federal vision, and are we
justified by faith, or are we justified by faithfulness?
Mike is going to
be
listening to
what's called the Paxum,
and a theology podcast before, but he's a
Javendroth, and I know that if Mike is a friend of mine, then I'll probably like
Pat and his
DEMAN down at
Ligonier, back when
the Ascension.
A classmate of mine, also
a program at
TMS,
coming to New York and speaking at the event from generation
to generation.
And
then at
the end, Ben
Oettinger, he is the
director of expansion for Love Life.
Love Life is
Love Life
as far as
we
see, probably two to three babies saved a week.
Praise God.
And it's been incredible.
We used to go out on the sidewalks before we got connected with Love Life, and trying to
minister to these abortion -minded mothers, and in a year or two of
doing that, I mean, we were out there four or five days a week, and we literally saw one turn around.
Now through training with Love Life, and
just when one person is speaking to the mom, let the one person who's talking to her talk, and don't
try to butt in.
Just simple things like that to your sidewalk counselors.
And so through that, we've seen this incredible increase in over 100 babies
saved last year.
Hallelujah.
These moms
are then like really walk -along,
Christian -minded,
more geared toward
that lobby for bill
work, but New York is like 95%.
The idea of passing any kind of legislation,
again, same with
title we've got right now is New York
and our way of thinking and our ministry and our lives.
That's the quick rundown on the conferences, on the conference and the messages.
Great.
Well, if anybody is interested in attending this conference, and if you live anywhere
near Manhattan, that is in New York, of course.
There is at least one other Manhattan in Kansas, and there are a couple of other Manhattans, but this
is the real Manhattan.
If you are interested, and you should be interested, if you live near New York, New York,
I would strongly urge you to go to the Providence
Baptist Church of New York City website, pbc .nyc, and
click on Conference Registration.
That's pbc, for Providence Baptist Church, dot nyc, and click on Conference
Registry.
You will not be disappointed.
And we are going to be discussing today the
theme that you are likely going to be addressing at the conference,
New York's spiritual legacy.
What is it about New York that has such
a heritage that you could even develop a
conference around it?
New York has become so liberal and even leftist,
and the population there over and over and over again
amazingly keeps reelecting people that are destroying that city.
I don't even understand, it's mind -boggling how even the
liberals there would want to see their
phenomenal restaurants shut down and taken away from them, as
happened during the ridiculous and tyrannical
season of mandates over COVID.
In fact, my late wife and I treasured a restaurant,
a Russian restaurant in Manhattan called Firebird, that has forever closed its doors
as a result, and I'm sure there are many others.
And also the theater.
All these are the things that, I mean, not only liberals love them, I love those things, but
liberals are known, they're identified in Manhattan with all those things.
They very often run these things.
You can't go to a Broadway play without seeing
noticeably homosexual staff working there.
And you wonder, how could they allow these things to be taken away from them?
But people, because they see New York for what it has become, they may not realize
that there were some extraordinary revivals that began
there by the grace of God.
There were extraordinary gospel ministers over the centuries that were there.
Why don't you tell us about some of this?
Yeah, New York
City
was making money.
Unlike some of the other colonies in the United States,
Liberty or, you know, by pilgrims, well, New York was founded
to make money.
And understanding that is the
thing that might be obvious for
somebody who's from this area, probably don't really think about it,
but you
don't just have
the flow in
this
metro
complex.
Now, New York still is.
Manhattan wasn't an island.
And
there would
be,
for instance, in the
height of trying to maximize a
limited amount of
New
York
City's
founding,
being
founded
by
the Dutch as
a trip.
And tragically, now an apostate church in the RCA, Marble Collegiate Church.
Yeah, now Marble Collegiate is in Midtown.
Yeah, I know personally one of the very, very rare pastors who remains faithful to the scriptures is
solidly conservative and reformed and against egalitarianism,
Pastor Y .C. Tan in New Hyde Park, Long Island.
But right now, he's the only name I can think of.
Exactly.
Okay, yeah, a friend of mine,
he's
a new pastor at
Chelsea, called Manor Community Church.
And Manor was started as the Chelsea
Manor Chapel because the neighborhood we called, and
through Marble
Collegiate Church in Midtown, they wanted
to have a chapel,
and that church was RCA Church.
The Bible
was initiated by,
even
that
didn't
come
nationwide, and
they estimate the
revival spread
through sermons by Spurgeon, and the date on that is 1858, 1859.
And so what came shortly
after was believed
that in sending the revival, it would save
a great number of these people that would then end up dying.
Revival
connection
or started.
In fact, pick up, reluctantly, pick up on Charles Finney when we return from our first break
because we've got to go into our first break right now.
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conference titled Faithful.
If you have a question, submit it to chrisarnson at gmail .com.
We left off, you were listing noted Christian and
pseudo Christian leaders, prominent names from history that were
affiliated with New York City.
One of them, the last one that you named was the false
Christian, the charlatan, the plagianist Charles Finney.
If you could pick up where you left off there.
In all fairness to Billy Graham, as much as he was riddled with theological problems, he
wasn't as heretical as Finney.
I just wanted to insert that in there.
Yes,
he died in New
York State.
He was raised there
and he became very disillusioned.
He
denied
original sin.
What we mean by that is that humanity has fallen in Adam.
We sinned all.
Adam sinned as our federal head,
the individual.
Not only could or
should or you must,
he also denied penal substitutionary atonement and what we mean by that is the idea that Christ
is in our place.
Finney denied that.
Behavior modification.
He wrote
Theology
of the Great Awakening.
He was involved in that.
It was marked by if I think of George Whitefield, for example,
is
marked
by.
Then
this ties in with his New Measures.
New Measures is another term that he coined.
New Measures may not necessarily
be factored.
If you follow these steps, a
few of the
more tactics or measures involved things like the altar call.
The altar call was kind of fallen out of favor in recent years, but for
a hundred years the altar call was the idea that at the end of the message you would have a
prayer.
Then what
they
would
call it,
the sawdust trail
is literally in between
sawdust in weeks and months of all these revival meetings,
the aisles would get very muddy.
If you would walk
the aisle and you come to the anxious bench, if you're not crying enough, if you're not sorry enough, if you're not
emotional enough because conversion was primarily about an emotion, and so you would come up and sit on the
anxious bench in your
hands, so more
tears.
Part of that was highly emotive or manipulative music that would be
points where all, he
got
results.
He got people to come forward.
If you're
looking for a
really good book on that, you can read Ian Murray's book Revival and
Revivalism, The Making and Marring of American Evangelicalism.
In many ways,
practice
and thought
and
also tied
directly into pragmatic Christianity.
Pragmatic Christianity basically says if it works, we do it.
If it doesn't work, it must be bad.
Church
marketing
movement
flagship church, and even in the world.
I'm sure all of this is true.
And it's a tragedy that Asahel Nettleton who was a
preacher during those same years as Finney rose to the height of
popularity.
Finney is the one that is still lauded and
praised by especially fundamentalists which is very strange because fundamentalists
typically rightfully declare the heresies of Roman Catholicism
and yet Finney was more of a Pelagianist than Rome.
So it's very bizarre but it's a shame that Asahel Nettleton who is the figure that Ian
Murray contrasts against Finney in his book Revival and
Revivalism.
It's a shame that hardly anybody knows who Asahel Nettleton is.
But we have to go to our first break right now.
I mean, I'm sorry, our midway break.
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Pastor Andy, I want you to pick up where you left off if you haven't completed your thought, and I'm hoping
that we also get to highlight more of the great men of God
whose examples we want to follow and benefit from, whose legacy we want to
introduce to a whole new audience like the aforementioned
Ichabod Spencer like great 18th century Christian
heroes like Gardner Spring, like other great 19th century heroes in New York
City like Spencer Cone and we could go on and on, if you could pick up where you left off
and let's continue.
Talks about new
measures
came
out
of
that and then I believe it's Phil Johnson
uses the expression, he says.
It's as if every demon from release and
all of these in the wake of Charles Finney
is also considered
part of that
through William Miller the seventh day of Venice and
then the Mormon
church
started
lots
of
churches.
Yeah, Stephen
H.
Ting from the 19th century has written some treasures of literature
published by Solid Ground Christian Books and he was a well
-known.
At the time, he was a well -known.
Bulwark.
Of biblical orthodoxy he's not tragically well -known or even known much at
all today but a great man of God for sure.
Yeah, and then men
wearing
collars and then speak with them.
For sure.
Just to interject here for the sake of giving our listeners caution.
I know a lot of conservative reformed Anglicans and some even within the
ACNA and you have to approach each congregation individually
with a bit of caution and skepticism because they are a very mixed bag.
I just thought I'd insert that in there.
I didn't.
Anglican, Episcopal, whatever that actually would believe the gospel and be relatively
in my upbringing.
There was none of that
and a lot of the Episcopal
and then their buildings are gone now but a lot of the even
if they're Sunday and.
And the irony of any liberal touting Gandhi as a
hero what many people if not the vast majority of people don't realize is that Gandhi.
Was.
Without question a racist.
You can hear an interview I did years ago.
Called.
Behind the Mask of Divinity which is a biography of Gandhi
exposing his racism people view him as a great hero of equal
rights but what they fail to realize is that he was only a
champion for equal rights for the Indian people to be treated
equally with white British folk and white South
African folks.
He hated black people and it is very clear it could be very easily verified in
going to the internet to the collected works of Mahatma Gandhi and
till the day he died he referred to black people as kafirs which is the South
African slang term that would be equivalent to the N word here in the United States
and in most places.
So these liberals have really got to start doing their homework because they're really absurd.
But anyway.
And that's going to be devout
people that show up every Sunday to the most nominal kafir but nevertheless huge percentage
of New Yorkers
that figure roughly 8 million.
Next to Judaism you've got orthodox, ultra -orthodox.
Judaism is the most progressive
and then orthodox in
neighborhoods
in Manhattan as well but not very strong.
And just to insert here also a lot of people don't know that chosen people ministries
which began in the 19th century in Brooklyn, New York was started
through the evangelistic efforts of Calvinist Presbyterians.
Who.
In their evangelism efforts led a rabbi to Christ who
then sparked a great work of evangelism to the Jewish
people that still exists today and Mitch Glaser who continues to.
Lead.
Chosen people ministries.
Although a dispensationalist is a five point Calvinist I just thought I'd throw that out there.
And
then
according
to Pew
Research
I think they estimate that it's around 8
Looking
at them, you passed 99 and 99 out of 100.
Do not an evangelical church.
Manhattan is the least evangelical of the
five
evangelical.
Christianity goes talking about
history and legacy that could have
been written on that and trying to
push back against the black church not being as doctrinal or conservative
but the ones
that
are so called evangelical
but
they do
exist
and
I
was.
Thrilled to meet at the banner of truth conference as were you Pastor Otis Buckley.
Form theology
out of a.
I'm finding that
somewhat common
but
when
you're
looking
at.
Now.
As I said earlier are there going to be at the conference highlighted any
of the wonderful men of God whose legacy we are
trying to revive in places like New York like the aforementioned Ichabod Spencer
and Gardner Spring and Spencer Cone and other heroes of the faith that
lives in centuries past in New York.
Yes so I would like to do that.
More names that you.
Ichabod Spencer is the only one of these
nicknamed the bunion of Brooklyn and has his
speaking and
less
others that have been made like logic on fire or the Calvinist documentary.
So Tim wants to do a film about or create a film about Ichabod Spencer wants to shoot
that in Brooklyn.
I'll be sure to tell Mike Gadosh that the founder of solid ground Christian books because of the
fact as I mentioned earlier they have brought back into print a pastor's
sketches and once again anybody listening who would like to get a hold of that book go to solid
-ground -books .com and that's a pastor's sketches by Ichabod Spencer.
A -C -H -A B -O -D.
Spencer.
And of course I think I've mentioned to you in the past that
my friend John Thornberry wrote the biography of
Spencer Cone titled a pastor in New York the life and times of Spencer Cone.
That is so remarkable that somebody who has the funding
and the talent should create a movie about this guy's life because it
is absolutely amazing.
He was not only a lawyer and a teacher at one point but he was a
stage actor who left that career because he became
convicted that it was not proper for a Christian to be participating in that kind of
activity.
And keep in mind this was the 19th century he was a war of 1812
hero was a pastor involved in all kinds of theological
conflicts that were going on in New York City of the day.
And he was standing firm for biblical truth just a utterly remarkable man.
So I'm hoping that.
That happens
one day.
Yes,
funding
for making these films like it cost a lot of money to make it happen but what they found is that they can
raise the funding through it could
be done.
Talk to David if you can come to this
conference otherwise I'll try to connect you with Tim.
Do you know.
Tim Cannon?
I met Tim at the G3 conference and in fact it was intended that I
would be interviewed for the cessationist documentary and the morning that they wanted to meet with
me to film that interview.
I was sick and wanted to make sure that I slept properly
late to regain strength to be back at my exhibitors booth at the G3
conference.
But we're going to our final break right now and if anybody wants to submit a question
to Andy Woodard I would advise you do it very soon because we are rapidly running out of time
and our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com.
Chrisarnson at gmail .com.
As always give us your first name at least your city and state and your country of residence if you live outside the USA
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Don't go away we'll be right back with Andy Woodard and the spiritual legacy of New York City
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I'd like you now to summarize in several minutes, uninterrupted, what you
most want our listeners to know not only about your conference, but about what
is burdening your heart about the city of New York where you serve as a shepherd of God's
people.
Are you there, Pastor Randy?
Pastor Randy, are you there?
Hey, good to
see
you.
They
think that
bending to cultural and religious pressure
is predated
by where it's going to leave.
Having the financial pressure want you
to appease
them.
One of the
muscle up and try harder, do better.
I
believe
our last conference was incredibly encouraging and I think that this next one is also going to be very encouraging.
And so if we have listeners anywhere in the New York area and they would like to come, we'd
love to have them come.
And if they want to come but they can't afford it or money is an issue,
free is
not a problem.
Now,.
How hard is it for you as a pastor.
To keep.
An optimistic attitude in a very dark city like
New York, spiritually dark especially.
Where.
It seems you could hardly find a faithful voice that
is unwaveringly committed to the scriptures at all cost.
If people are not being overtaken by the woke movement
and liberalism, they are being silent about these dangers.
They, perhaps because of the astronomical cost of rent
for facilities in New York City and other matters that involve finances, they are
just terrified of people leaving and they are
compromising what they are presenting from the pulpit.
And.
It's just one of the most leftist mission fields on the planet.
How do you keep motivated with an optimistic attitude about the ability of
God to change things radically which is
within his power to do.
It might not be in his will to do that in New York City, but it is certainly within his power to do.
How do you keep motivated about this?
I'm post -millennial, I don't have an up -and -to -the -right attitude.
Theology, like my confidence in Christ's power of a
reason, God has given me a personality that I'm just not really, that
has to be significant to
get
me down, but the other thing is, like
someone told about
talking to someone and they're like, well, why are you going there?
Nobody wears shoes here.
And he's like, well, because nobody wears shoes here, that means everybody is eligible to buy what I'm selling.
Because that means, like, everybody's eligible, like, hey, everybody's, everybody needs to go
to church and they need the gospel, they need Christ, and they're not currently a
follower of Jesus.
I think, like, hey, it's what you could
use for it, but rather be,
because I'm
like, well, why wouldn't I be
encouraged?
People, the members and attendees of the church
coming in with a desire to hear the Word and to be in a faithful church.
What's not to love?
What's not to, like, why wouldn't I be encouraged getting to do
ministry?
Well, don't forget.
Folks, if you want to attend the Non -Conformist Ministries Conference
on the theme Faithful from August 25th through the 27th at Providence Baptist
Church in New York City, go to pbc .nyc and click
on Conference Registration.
Also, don't forget, if anybody wants to purchase a book by a faithful pastor
in 19th Century New York City, Ichabod Spencer, A Pastor's Sketches is
the title of the book, and go to solid -ground -books .com solid -ground -books .com and
there are many other books that will fascinate you in their catalog.
I want to thank you so much, Pastor Andy, for doing such a great job today.
I want to thank everybody who listened, and I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus
Christ is a far greater Savior than you are a sinner.