Divisive Doctrines - Limited Atonement (Part 1)
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Galatians 2:5 But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the Gospel would remain with you. Today on NoCo, Pastor Mike starts off the show by talking about the IBS class that he is teaching titled The Christian Home, the upcoming conference featuring Dr. Stephen J. Nichols from March 30th-April 1st (Click here to register), and his new book titled: The Sovereignty and Supremacy of Jesus: Bowing to the Gracious Despot.
Pastor Mike then starts a mini-series on divisive truths/doctrines. The first divisive truth examined is Limited Atonement. What are the differences between Limited and Unlimited Atonement? What was the intention? Was Christ's death meant for all, some, or none? Whose punishment did Christ bear? What is the purpose of the Atonement? Listen in as Pastor Mike answers these questions--Jesus died for a particular group of people. While Christ's death was sufficient enough to save all, he died only for the elect. Christ came to save all those that the Father had given Him.
Reasons (Biblical Proof) For Why You Should Believe In Limited Atonement:
1. Scripture show the limitation of Christ's death. We are told that Jesus died for the sheep, not for the wolves or goats. John 10:26-30, Titus 2:14, Isaiah 53, John 11, John 6, John 17, Acts 20, Ephesians 5, Hebrews 2, John 15
2. The Bible ties Christ's death with sanctification. If Jesus died for you, the Bible teaches that He will sanctify you. But, there are some people who will never be sanctified. Ephesians 5
To be continued next week...
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- So today on No Compromise Radio, divisive truth number uno, limited atonement.
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- Limited atonement. We might as well stick the pig in the eye right to start.
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- Is that what that'd be, right? Are we able to eat pig in this dispensation, in this covenant, in this society?
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- I think so. You can get some pretty cheap spare ribs down the street, down the church there, and we could have yourself a grand old time with spare ribs.
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- And so probably my Messianic Jewish friends are saying, I don't think so, but I think Jesus declared all foods clean, didn't you?
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- Limited atonement. Limited atonement, people don't like the word, because Christ's death was a wonderful death.
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- It was of infinite value. It was such a great death that it could save billions, trillions,
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- Googleplex amount of people on this planet, and if there were people on other planets, which there are not, it would save them too.
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- There is no limit to the surpassing value of the atonement.
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- That's why when you say limited atonement, who are you to limit the atonement? It just doesn't sound good.
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- And so maybe we should call it particular redemption, that Jesus died for a particular group of people.
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- Or you could call it definite atonement, that Christ definitely died for the elect, those that the
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- Father had given him. And he, in contrast to an indefinite death, just dying to make people savable.
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- So, if you're thinking about the atonement today, you're saying, that's kind of divisive, I've never heard of that,
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- Jesus only dying for the elect, for God so loved the world. I would say to you that, first hear me out, because there are men better than me, better than I, I am better than other men,
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- I, me, direct object, indirect object, there are other men who are much better that have believed in limited atonement,
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- Spurgeons of the world and Calvins of the world and the MacArthur's and R .C. Sproul's of the world.
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- This is not a weird topic, although it's weird in evangelicalism today. In 1750, here in New England, I'm only an hour from Northampton where Jonathan Edwards was the pastor, and only an hour from Boston where we had other
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- Calvinistic pastors, Cotton Mather, etc. This was the prevailing doctrine in evangelical churches.
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- Now, certainly it was not prevailing in the Unitarian University churches, I mean, Universalist churches for unity, didn't
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- Todd Friel say that every church that has a UNI in it is not good? But what if it was a university
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- Bible church? What about that? Huh, Todd? What about that? Just kidding. I got a text the other day from someone,
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- But limited atonement, the question is really, did Jesus' death actually accomplish the salvation of anyone, those that the
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- Father had given Him, or did it remove all obstacles for salvation of all men so that people were savable?
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- Lewis Berry Chafer said, Christ's death does not save either actually or potentially, rather it makes all men savable.
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- And so that would be unlimited atonement, and I disagree with that. Did Christ bear our sins as substitute?
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- Limited atonement. Or did He merely die to make salvation possible? Unlimited atonement.
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- And so the issue is not sufficiency, His death was sufficient. Both limited and unlimited atonement people agree with that.
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- Did Christ die for everyone? Unlimited atonement. Did Christ die for just the elect? Limited atonement.
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- Both agree that Christ's death was sufficient for all. All who believed could come.
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- Both camps believe, both four -pointers and five -pointers, that Christ's death was effectual for only the elect.
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- Both believe that. Both believe, both limited and unlimited, four -pointers and five -pointers, people that believe
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- Christ died for each and every person who was ever born, and Christ died just for the elect. They both believe that the only one's going to heaven, that the application of the death of Christ was only to the elect, because four -pointers and five -pointers are not universalist.
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- Unless you're a universal redemption, meaning that Jesus died for every person, therefore every person goes to heaven, unless you believe that, you believe that Jesus' death was sufficient for all and efficient for those who believe.
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- But that's not the real issue when it comes to limited or unlimited atonement, definite or indefinite redemption, particular or inparticular redemption.
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- That's not the issue. The issue is intention. Okay? Let me repeat that again on No Compromise Radio. The issue is intention.
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- Was the intention of Christ to die for all, some, or none?
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- What was the intention? The limited atonement, people would say, just for those whom the Father had given
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- Him. The unlimited atonement, Jesus died for everybody, people would say, Jesus '—the intention of Jesus was to die for every person.
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- That's the issue. Sufficient for all, yes, both agree. Efficient for just the elect, both agree.
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- But the intention is where the rub comes. So Christ's death is of infinite worth, and it could redeem angels if God said these angels needed redeeming.
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- It was a wonderful, great death. But the issue is whose punishment did
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- Christ bear? Whose punishment did He bear? And you have really three options that I've alluded to just a minute ago.
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- Christ died to save all men without distinction, so it didn't matter what kind of distinction—Jew,
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- Gentile, male, female, old, young—He died for every person, inclusively.
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- And so if He really died for those people, that would be universalism. That's option one. Option two,
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- Christ died to save no one in particular. That is the Arminian view. He died to save no one in particular.
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- That is to say, He procured potential salvation. He died to make people savable.
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- He died to remove all obstacles, and then they have to decide. They have to make a decision.
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- They have to trust Christ. So that's Arminianism. That's option two. Or option three—as
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- I lose my voice—option three, Christ died to save a certain number, the elect, those whom the
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- Father had given Him. And this death, therefore, as Calvin would say, would be a positive and effectual salvation.
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- The purpose of the atonement, Setan said, did God intend to save all men or did
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- He not? If He did not intend to save all men without exception, but only the elect, then the work of Christ on the cross is a glorious success,
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- John 6 .37. If on the other hand, it was God's intention to save the entire world, then the atonement of Christ has been a great failure, for vast numbers of mankind have not been saved.
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- So we believe in No Compromise Radio, as well as Bethlehem Bible Church, that Christ came to save all those the
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- Father had given Him, in the covenant of peace, the covenant of redemption, the Father, Son, and the Spirit, the
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- Father giving the Son some to die for. He could have given them all to die for. Nobody deserved it, so certainly we believe in grace, so no one deserved it.
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- That would have been an option, like the angels. No plan of redemption. God would have been just and holy and righteous.
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- No plan. Die for no one. God could have said, go die for everyone. He could have done that.
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- Grace can give to anyone it wants, and so, like in Matthew 20, do whatever
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- He wants with those that are His, or He could have said, go die for these some.
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- So we're going to look at some reasons why I think particular redemption or definite atonement is the biblical pattern.
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- Now, immediately you're jumping and you're saying, desires all men to be saved, for God so loved the world.
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- Now, I agree with God so loved the world, but I don't think that has anything to do with the atonement's intent.
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- Desires everyone to be saved, I think you're going to look at 2 Peter 3, verse 9, and find out everyone's not the right
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- Greek word. You say, yeah, you guys just do the whole Greek thing. You don't like something? You say it's
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- Greek. Well, that's not what I'm trying to do either, but NIV's translation of 2
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- Peter 3, verse 9 is a four -point translation. Did you know translators have a bias?
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- And so the NAS, four -point, NIV, four -point, et cetera. So let's look at some proofs in no particular order.
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- Maybe the first one's in good order, but I'm going to try to convince you that people who call themselves five -point
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- Calvinists, that is, they believe in limited atonement, the fifth point between a difference between a four -pointer and a five -pointer, is arguing on the atonement, the intent and the extent of the atonement.
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- I'm going to just try to tell you that I'm not teaching some kind of weird Romulan doctrine.
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- How about that? Number one, the reason why
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- I think particular redemption is right is that Scripture shows the limitation of Christ's death.
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- We are told explicitly Jesus died for the sheep, not the wolves, not the goats, but the sheep.
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- John 10, I am the good shepherd and I know my own and my own know me, even as the
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- Father knows me and I know the Father, and I lay down my life for the sheep.
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- Those are the ones that he laid down his life for. You say, well, that doesn't tell me much, chapter 10, verse 26 and following, but you do not believe me because you are not of my sheep.
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- My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and I give eternal life to them and they will never perish and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
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- My Father who has given them to me is greater than all and no one is able to snatch them out of my hand.
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- Similarly, Titus 2, verse 14, who gave himself, speaking of Christ for us, to redeem us from every lawless deed and to purify for himself a people for his own possessions, zealous for good deeds.
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- You can go through the list and find out those for whom
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- Christ died. The many, Isaiah 53. The children of God, John 11.
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- Those given him by the Father, John 6 and John 17. His church, Acts 20,
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- Ephesians 5. And then implicitly you see this with many sons, Hebrews 2.
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- His brethren, Hebrews 2. The children, same chapter. The seed of Abraham, same chapter.
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- The people of God, same chapter. His friends, John 15. If the
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- Bible wanted you to grasp the concept that Jesus died for everyone, without distinction, why would these terms be used?
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- Secondly, on No Compromise Radio, why you should believe in limited atonement?
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- Because the Bible ties Christ's death with sanctification.
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- In other words, if Jesus died for you, the Bible teaches that he will sanctify you.
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- Now let's stop and think about that for a minute. There are some people, unbelievers, who aren't being sanctified.
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- And the unbelievers that don't go to heaven, that don't get saved and then go to heaven, they will die in an unsanctified state, having never been sanctified, in no way being sanctified, and they'll go to hell.
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- There are some people who will never be sanctified. So if Jesus died for each and every person, and the
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- Bible ties his death to sanctification, then why aren't all sanctified?
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- This yields the only conclusion possible, is that Jesus didn't die for everyone.
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- But those he died for, he sanctified. Ephesians 5, husbands love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself up for her.
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- That he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that he might present to himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and blameless.
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- So my point is this, there is a tie between sanctification and Christ's death.
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- And if Christ died for you, thankfully, he'll sanctify you and eventually glorify you.
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- But what's happening with people who believe in unlimited atonement? They have a
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- God who dies for people, but then never sanctifies them. Let me give you another thing.
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- It's the same, well, I don't even know if I have enough time, I don't have enough time. So no Compromise Radio today, here's what we're doing.
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- No Star Trek illustrations, no Wrath of Khan. We have what?
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- We have a God who amazingly sent his son to die for us. I think both of us can agree with that, the four and five pointers.
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- If this is just an academic exercise, you've missed the point. That God would send his son to die for someone like you, for someone like me, a greater sinner than you.
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- That is an amazing thing. That is amazing love. How can it be that, oh my
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- God, he should die for me? Jesus is God, that he died for me, that is an amazing fact.
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- And so it should give us motivation, it should give us gratitude, it should give us thanksgiving, that God's son should die for us.
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- And so if this is just a theological exercise, then you've got it all wrong. But if it really goes back to understanding the mind of God so we can praise him and understand him and grow in the grace and knowledge of the
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- Lord Jesus Christ, then you're going the right way. That Jesus would die for us is an amazing truth.
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- And with that, we can have a distinction without separation, because I love my four -point friends, and we'll find out what's going on more in part two next week.
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