October 28, 2022 Show with Jimmy Contino on “Reaching Young Minds With the Gospel on the #1 College Campus for Lost Students”

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Wishing you all a happy Friday on this 28th day of October 2022 in fact that would ask all of you to say an extra prayer for me today because today happens to be my precious late wife Julie's birthday and I miss her dearly and days like this the The grief can be more intense Than it may typically be on other days.

So I appreciate you Lifting my name up to the Lord's throne of grace and prayer today. I am very happy to have as a first-time guest somebody That was referred to me by his father. Perhaps some of you may have heard me interview Not so long ago pastor Jason Contino who is the associate pastor at Harborview Christian Church in Port Jefferson, Long Island, New York.

I enjoyed that interview so much that He afterwards said you should get my son on the on the program because he is involved in a very important church plant and mission work in Halifax, Nova Scotia, so I took pastor Jason Contino up on his suggestion and today we have the honor and privilege of Having Jimmy Contino on the program.

He's a former president of the Fellowship for Christian Athletes at Elon University in North Carolina Who received his master's degree in Christian ministry at? Southeastern Theological Seminary and is now involved in planting Port City Church of Halifax, Nova Scotia where he is the student director working with youth mainly focused on university students and Jimmy is going to be addressing Reaching young minds with the gospel on the number one college campus for lost students.

And that's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to iron trip and Zion radio Jimmy Contino. It's an honor to have you on the program and We have a tradition here Jimmy whenever we have a first-time guest and that would even include when I recently interviewed your dad.

We have that guest Give a summary of their salvation testimony. That would include the kind of religious atmosphere in which they were raised if any and the kind of providential Circumstances our sovereign Lord raised up in their lives that drew them to himself and saved them and I would love to hear your story.

Salvation, Family Influence, and Conversion to Christ

Right before he met my mother and most of my life pretty much left the Catholic Church the Catholic faith gradually as I took replace of that became My God for most of my life went for a few trips and things like that and ended up playing University my main God.

It wasn't until teen years old until I met Jesus. Along story when I was a freshman in College I get a phone call from my dad saying that he started to go to church and he wanted me to take a weekend off and Come.

And I was going to school at the time Fairfield University in Connecticut. So just have to take the ferry down there and could basically walk to the church I wanted to. I told my dad, you know church church is not for me as you know, I appreciate it.

Thanks, but no, thanks and now it's kind of the end of the story, but I kept getting these phone calls from him inviting me to come back and Come to church. I decided to go.

Now in order to in order to Further entice you to go to church. Did he happen to call one of the frequent Diners at Amado's restaurant Carlo Gambino to put it over. If anybody listening has no idea why I brought that reference up Listen to after this live program is over.

Listen to my interview with Jimmy Contino's dad Jason Contino that was aired on August 24th of this year on iron sharpens iron radio. Just go to iron sharpens iron radio .com and Type in the search engine Contino co n ti n o and that interview will come up, but I'm sorry.

I interrupted you.

I did decide to go in about the afterlife, you know, I didn't really think they were smart people necessarily. I was interested to be challenged simply to Christians who asked me two different questions Do you believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God and and as he answered?

Yes he began to really dive into scriptures pretty heavily and and You understand the biblical Jesus not the Jesus of the Jehovah's Witnesses and. And then a few weeks later he's talking to another guy that he was close with and he asked him if you were to die today, where are you going and why and.

And my dad is beginning to justify why he was a good cop at the time, you know. Good detective good husband a good father, but then he realized that you know What what he's read in the scriptures none of that would would amount to being good enough before God.

And he realized I need the blood of Jesus don't I and it was that the trend that really helped him to See Christ and start to go to church and and for me. It was really seeing my my father who was now a new man a man who would not sit down at the dinner table.

And and read his Bibles and you know, read his Bible in the morning a man who? Desired to pray desired to go to church, you know, my dad was never a Very angry person, but he would get angry once in a while and and I remember anticipating when he would get frustrated about something.

And I'll say why are you getting mad and he would look at me and say Jim. I'm not mad. I'm not upset and just seeing Him be radical forced me to think. Okay, there's even two options here either my dad has Completely lost it.

He lost his mind or I've missed my entire life and months. I began to challenge Him and ask him questions. I began to go to the Bible studies that he was a part of and I began to realize you know These aren't just people who want to who wants to just have a hope for something in the future you know, they're they're smart people and and these people were very you know slow to speak and quick to listen with me and Sophomore year I transferred down to Elon University.

Sitting in my bed September 13th 2017 and I was being challenged for over a year at that time teachings and these Bible studies talking to my dad and He would be able to accept Jesus as my Savior. I would also have to accept him as my Lord and how I'd have to lay down my life of sin 13th of 2017 where I was laying in my bed about that He did love me and that he did send his son Jesus through dying the cross and regardless of he did that personally for me.

And I was the first time in my life when the gospel really hit my heart. That was about five years ago in my bed at the time begging him to save my soul.

Burden for University Students and Early Evangelism

Now when did you have a burden upon your heart a burden placed upon your heart? To begin to reach out to youth with the gospel, I.

Would know the love of Jesus and I might have looked like a nut at the time probably still do it at times. But you know, I was telling my teammates guys You're not gonna believe it, but God is actually real and he and and sharing the gospel with them.

And a few months after after I came to faith. I was and For Thanksgiving break and I get a knock on our door Probably about 11 o 'clock at night. That wasn't unusual for Chris to come by at that time.

I don't kind of how our relationship was. We just would hang out late have deep conversations. I remember opening the door my best friend looks white as a ghost and he sat down at our table and just started to pour his heart out about how he was struggling with alcoholism and How broken he was and I remember being Just so excited to share with him for the first time who Jesus was and and I poured my heart out and I shared with You know that the gospel and I was expecting Chris to fall over, you know and give his life to Jesus, but instead he looks at me with like I had three heads at the time and Said no, that's not it Jim.

That can't be it. So I didn't hear from him for two months and then two months later. I get a phone call and says Jim I think you're right I came to Christ and he's been walking with the Lord ever since leading AA meetings and all those things in internship with his church.

But I've had a heart for university students specifically I think because I think the faith in university I know what it's like to be living completely forced in as College and then also a life to be wrestling and fighting against in and living by the Spirit so I think university is a place where a lot of people a Lot of a lot of kids begin to be challenged.

They're usually maybe lonely because they're far away from home and the whole world is sometimes, you know flipped upside down and Just knowing where I was. When I came to faith, I have a heart specifically I think for for youth for the pretty young adult.

And What why did you? Enter into.

Southeastern Theological Seminary, did you have aspirations to become a pastor and is that still an aspiration. Bible on my own? And a little bit more of a form theology and I remember calling up my good friends at times saying hey in Romans 9 What's up with Jacob and Esau?

You know, I'm just kind of freaking out and I Kid you not I read I was going to Romans 9 so much that the page ended up falling out of my Bible because I Just was trying to understand this and my church at the time was teaching something a little bit different, you know.

And he invites me to come out to Mercy Hill Church at the time, by the way.

There's there's there's nothing that's just a little bit different if a church doesn't believe in the reform.

Yeah, he invites me to come out to Mercy Hill and Community there. My best friend is potentially go be a federal probation officer up on Long Island. That was my plan. It was not to go into ministry. I figured you know, if I'm gonna go into ministry, maybe that would be later on down the line.

I would love to do that, but I maybe didn't feel equipped and You know just felt like this might be a safer route to do something like being a federal probation officer. And the day before I was Supposed to go into my interview I get an email With them saying we just got a new chief and we're freezing our hiring process.

So that same friend Daniel said hey Mercy Hill has this opportunity to do a two-year residency program Where you'd be able to focus specifically with university students and get a master's degree. So Mercy Hill partners along with Southeastern Theological Seminary and We were able to do a cohort where we were able to receive a degree from Southeastern In a master of arts and Christian ministry.

So it was through that program working at Mercy Hill for those two years where I was able to Be hands-on on campus and be sharing the gospel and doing a lot of evangelism on campus reading Bible studies and things like that.

And then where I would also be able to get an education at the time.

Well, I Just hope that the Lord And pray that the Lord continues to use your passion for him and his gospel Directed towards the youth and to every other human being that he by his providence Places you in their path and that whatever his will may be as far as Pastorate positions or whatever.

I will hope that you and your dad keep me updated on that progress. And How did you become connected with the church planting work that we are going to be discussing today as our primary theme Port City Church of Halifax, Nova Scotia.

And also Perhaps before you tell that story Give us a little background on Port City Church.

Port City Church, Halifax, and the Forgotten City Study

Yeah. People on that's including kids that move their lives in terms that we have. Jeremy Dacre He was about nine years ago. It was about a year after that where he began to be challenged and think man Maybe I need to think about planting a church in in Canada and he brought that up to his wife.

His wife immediately said I don't think that's a good idea. They didn't discuss it until about nine years later or about eight years later and they connected with spend Network and Partnered with another guy Chad McDonald and we're looking at what would be a smart area.

This is the You know, that's one of the fastest growing cities in Atlantic and it's largest city. It is a port city. So that's where we would get the name. So when you reach a port city, you technically would be reaching the world as people would be going out large international population, so they began to really have their affections and That's that's where they kind of were we're getting.

I'm when Jeremy one of the executive pastors was was thinking about planting Here in Halifax, and he pulled me aside and says, you know, Jim, I want you to consider. Thanks my wife I it's kind of funny to joke about this, but we were in school.

She said to me Jimmy I'll move anywhere in the world with you. I'll go anywhere with you. I just don't want to go further north in North Carolina. I Knew I knew in the back of my head, you know, there's no way we're going out.

We're going to Canada we're not even going further north in North Carolina and She's not doesn't like the cold but um I brought it up to my wife that day and and we began to pray and pray and cry and cry and I Mean, it's a long story, but over time God truly Began to do a work in our hearts back in 2017.

There was a study done by the North Carolina Baptist Convention where They were looking at cities in North America to see where there are more secular cities where there wasn't much of a gospel presence in the city and Where the universities were in those cities that didn't have much of a gospel presence at the university.

And what they were trying to do was they were trying to figure out where would be the most lost universities in North America. So they called this study the Forgotten City done back in 2017 was actually the same year that I came to faith and They do this study and the study was was kind of forgotten about over time.

But as Jeremy and Chad begin to think about where they want to plant after they decide on Halifax they decide to go back and look at that study that was done and They find out the number one on that list was st. Mary's University in Halifax and They figured you know, we we want to have a gospel presence on that campus.

To help get that name off that list if we're going to be there might as well be working doing gospel work on that campus, so They they reached out to us and said hey, would you be willing to come and?

Specifically focus With university students in the area to help make that possible and not that you know. Not that that's not happening on campus that is happening and there are other gospel centered churches in the area.

But through that we really began to challenge and question, you know, is God leading us in that sort of a direction and We began to ask the question instead of asking the question should we go we ask should we stay and The more we began to ask that the more we realized that we would be staying because of comfort.

We would be staying because we love our friends. We would be staying because we love the warmth. We'd be staying because we would want to be close to family and those aren't good enough reason to not Not be sent by God to an area such as this.

And we're going to pick up where we left off there when we return from our first break. If anybody has a question for Jimmy Contino About reaching young minds with the gospel our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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Who will who is addressing reaching young minds with the gospel on the number one college campus for law students? If you have a question send it to Chris Arnson at gmail .com. Chris Arnson at gmail .com as always give us your first name at least your city and state and your country of residence.

Jimmy how far along in the process is this actual church plant? Port City Church of Halifax.

To Halifax some were here already. But we've been meeting until we all were able to actually move here. We've been we've been meeting for Probably maybe six to eight months online. Before that we've all been in contact in different ways, but in person it's been about two to two and a half months of Continually meeting on Sundays going through Teaching sharing meals together and things that do want to be a part of the launch team that that is possible as well.

But we do have people who are joining our our core team to officially launch the church come March.

And Tell us some more details specifically about the theology and doctrinal positions of the church, etc.

And can you repeat the convention to which it belongs.

Okay, that's the first time I'm hearing about it and and well if anybody will repeat this information later God willing, but if anybody has more information that they would like to discover About Port City Church of Halifax, Nova Scotia, whether you have friends family and loved ones In or near there or you're going to be vacationing there or you live there yourself.

Go to Port City Church dot CA. Port City Church dot CA. Now tell us more about st. Mary's College or university. I can't remember exactly the name. But is this a Roman Catholic? University. Is it a nominal?

Roman Catholic University as Many are and that would even include sadly evangelical colleges and universities in this day and age they have really drifted far from their roots and moorings. So tell us about this University where it has been determined.

It is the number one college campus for law students in North America.

It was a Roman County you can Have a Solid relationship with the chaplains where they've allowed us to come in and use some of their spaces for some of the work that we're Doing and about a hundred and eighteen Countries would be represented on that walk on the campus.

It would feel a secular Done there. I do see that God is Reaching those students and not just those students, but the other universities in the area as well. Even just yesterday. I was on campus and we ended up getting into a conversation.

He had a cross around his neck so he began to have a You know discussing what the cross actually means how the cross actually works and and he told me that just two months ago Began a relationship with Jesus and came to faith.

It's just it's beautiful to see those who's on that campus You know very new to that campus just learning the environment. Especially coming from where I came from in North Carolina with the church that I was working with there.

It could oftentimes feel lonely, but God is absolutely Moving here as well, which is which is awesome.

Amen, and I Don't remember how This Determination was made that you mentioned in the beginning of the program before the last break. But how was this? College st. Mary's. How is it determined that they were the number one college campus for law students in North America?

Individual who Put together this study began in 2016. It ended in 20th. Mention They paid for the study and what they did was they were trying like I mentioned earlier but what they did was they were on cities specifically cities where not much of a gospel presence in that city and Then looking at those campuses and seeing If there was much of a gospel presence on that on that campus whether there's organizations or not and things like that Christian organizations or not.

So I'm not too sure on the details of Certain parts of that study, but that from my understanding. That's how it was determined. Was they were. Yeah, that's basically what they were doing. All righty.

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Let's see, we have an anonymous listener. The anonymous listener says I've been having difficulty hearing the program during Due to technical issues, but from what I have heard I am very Encouraged to see about what God is doing there in Nova Scotia.

My question is What is the typical reaction to a student in? Nova Scotia who does not know the Lord when you present the gospel to him or her or as their Argumentation is their appeal to Typical leftist answers to questions about eternal issues.

Is it more of a pleasant indifference? Can you give us more specific answers?

Sharing the Gospel on Campus and Typical Student Reactions

People I think a lot of it has to do with the approach. If you go up to somebody and just begin to just preach at them, you're gonna get more of a negative response. I do think that that a lot of it has to do with if we would say it's very hard to share the gospel at The university I would say and it's actually a lot easier to share the gospel on the university campus.

Not that it's not scary or or Intimidating or anything like that, but students. Typically university students are being challenged on their beliefs all the time. They're they were raised a certain way now they're being challenged to think outside the box and all these kinds of stuff and I Don't think it's that uncommon for them to come across people who would have different views Than them and for me my specific approach.

I when I was at Mercy Hill we had an evangelism coordinator who we brought in to work with our college team who impact my evangelism immensely and He would go on campus with us and model for us what it looks like to go share the gospel.

And I've taken a lot of what I've learned from from Josiah Roethlisberger over there at Mercy Hill. But even something as simple as going up to somebody and saying hey, we're on campus today. We're going around to different students and we're asking her if they would be willing to have a conversation about a relationship with Jesus.

What I've realized is about 50 of the time or more students are actually willing to have that conversation. That might be a surprise might not be but to me that was a surprise because I always think if people don't want to talk About Jesus, they don't want to get into a difficult Conversation.

Students are willing to get into those conversations. And what you do when you present it that way of saying hey, we're on campus today. Asking people they want to have a conversation about a relationship with Jesus.

Would you be willing to have a conversation with us? What you do is you set the tone for that conversation for the rest of that conversation. So if the conversation starts to drift in another direction, you can always say hey, you know.

When we approach you you agree to have a conversation about a relationship with Jesus. We don't want to do that. That's okay. We can we can move on. That's totally fine. Not, you know, we're not going to force you to have the conversation, but that's what we're here to do.

Usually, you know, I'm sorry. Yes, I'm I'm willing to have that conversation. There are times where people are are pushy or will push back what I've realized personally is usually the pushback isn't because Isn't because they like I mentioned earlier in my own testimony that they really need more evidence or Or are really asking me specific questions.

The reality is is that our hearts do not want God they don't want God is our hearts naturally want sin because we are all to praise and and I think being able to keep the focus of the conversations on the gospel and not Not steering off in all these other directions.

Let the gospel change people's hearts and lives and don't expect non-believers to start acting like believers. And start to believing believing things of the Christian faith before they even can understand the gospel.

So that would be. I hope that that hit on on the question if there's anything else I missed we can address it.

But well, I I just know that something very important About what you said is something that I have to constantly remind myself about and most people I know who are Christians Have to remind themselves about it too.

Is that we have to remember not to expect an unbeliever to act behave think and speak like a Christian and. Very often I find myself and so do friends of mine and friends of mine and other brothers and sisters in Christ Have shared with me that they have a problem with frustration anger and impatience with people that they know because they are acting in some way.

That is an unbiblical ungodly manner that has placed an additional tension upon the relationship. That I or anyone who is having this experience has with others and. One of the reasons that we go through this anger and frustration or anxiety or a host of other emotions is because we are forgetting that we cannot expect an unregenerate heart to behave like a New heart that has been given by Christ.

Like you it's a dark place whether you realize it has to come from a regenerate heart and and getting somebody to vote. Vote right is not going to bring them into heaven. Getting somebody to change their views on abortion is not going to save their soul.

Although those things, you know, although you know biblical truths are vital. They're not God. The gospel is the focal point and that's what's going to. Serve the pot and get people to then agree with amen and.

Tell us about some of. In regard to anecdotal experience. Tell us about some of the encounters that you've had with some of these young people.

Gospel Conversations, Discipleship, and False Religion

Yeah. Conversation. I stopped conversations. I stopped a couple weeks ago. I spoke what I was doing. What we're doing is we were actually helping start a new church here being very honest. We're just trying to understand a spiritual climate of st. Mary's University.

Would you be willing to fill out a nine question survey and and have a discussion and it's very it's very similar to. Just a method of sharing the gospel. Those questions are meant to push and Challenge certain things and as we're walking through the survey with these two brothers.

There there you can tell when somebody's eyes and the heart begin to to came to faith in that moment. But um, but what happened was they said hey we we would love to Get together. We would love to meet up with our friends who?

Who actually says that he's a Christian and they tell me they go a friend a friend. You're not gonna believe he doesn't. He's actually not having sex until he's married. So I start to laugh, you know these guys, you know think how crazy that would be.