Daniel 9

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I'm talking. Maybe our, maybe our viewers are wives, which is good. That's his wife. I said, what's up? Some responding. That's a great. Yeah, great. Awesome. So we want to talk about Daniel tonight. Dan and I have been going through the book of Daniel.

We've been talking about our understanding of eschatology, which which is just means in things and it is led us to looking to look at the prophecies of the Old Testament. We've started in Daniel been walking through Daniel and now we're in chapter 9 of Daniel and we want to walk through Daniel 9 with you tonight.

Daniel 9 kind of starts us back up again in in some of the prophecies. There was a gap there. Well 8 does but there was a gap where we we we learned some of the famous stories of Israel's history. You have the Shadrach Meshach and Abednego and stories like that and that gap between prophecies and Daniel, but the it seems like there's a progression with the prophecies in Daniel.

You have you have similar prophecies talking about the same thing. They're presented in a different way. They're presented to different people. You have first the prophecy vision going to the king. The king wants it interpreted and then you have you have a different king sitting and writing on a wall and then you have a king who who sees a vision you have visions coming to Daniel.

You have visions coming to Daniel and the angel touches seems to touch Daniel physically and interprets the the visions for Daniel. There's an agreement in these prophecies speaking of times to come and what to look for you going to have these different kingdoms and what these different Kings and kingdoms are going to look like so there's consistency in these prophecies.

There's something familiar in each of these prophecies. And as we approach chapter 9 verse 27 the last verse in chapter 8. As I was telling Dan seems like a good introductory verse for chapter 9 because it shows us it shows us the man Daniel who he is and I was just thinking about how it's good for us to I know we can't do it.

We can't do it to the degree that it would help us the most but go back visually and and with the best imagination that we can. Daniel was a part of the Jewish nation the Hebrew people and they were exiled and they were part of this this prophecy.

I mean they were in the middle of a prophecy that was being fulfilled right in front of their eyes. So they were taken from their homeland because their own doing but this was part of prophecy not in their own country in a time where you know, we're close to having the the comforts that we have in our day and then you have you have these visions you live in a time where somebody could you could be killed just by the King's orders and in the blink of an eye he could get rid of you and you know, and he was he was interpreting visions.

He was interpreting dreams for the King and how fearful that was and then you they're thrown into a fiery furnace. We don't face those things every day. We we do not face anything like these folks faced back in that day and and here he's it looks like he's feeling the weight of these visions when the vision that they are currently in and facing is the the 70 years of exile and it's coming to an end and he knows that he sees the here's the interpretation sees the the visions of the the Kings and the kingdoms and what's to take place in verse 27 of chapter 8.

He says then I Daniel was exhausted and sick for days. Then I got up again and carried on the King's business, but I was astounded at the vision and there was no none to explain it. So on top of the life that he has to live and the harsh reality which to us it is is just normal every day for him, but he's feeling the weight of these these visions the the weight of the nation the what's to come what's as you were talking about earlier Dan, he realizes that this 70 weeks is ending and he doesn't know what's going to happen next.

Just just in this time of uncertainty and what he's what he's getting is just probably heavy on his heart and making him emotionally sick which which exhausts him and causes him to be physically sick.

And kind of gives us the heart of the man of Daniel as we I think we will continue that as we begin to look at the first section of chapter 9 any any comments on that introduction.

Then yeah, one of the things that that probably enhances exhaustion his sickness is found in that that very last little bit. It says there was none to explain it. He had the visions. He had the knowledge, but he didn't he didn't understand what it meant.

He had information, but no no hope. I mean he had the hope. He had the knowledge that the God is good and that he was going to follow God and the God had him all taken care of but he he was given all these these incredible things.

I mean we hear of these visions like a ram and a goat ramming into each other and we think you know, I've seen that before I've seen a maybe not ramming a goat, but I've seen no Rams hit each other thing goats try to headbutt one another.

You know, what's the big deal? Why did it affect them so much? We have to remember that we weren't there to see these visions. We don't know exactly the experience of seeing those visions was for him and to see all these great incredible God-sized things happen to him happen right there and then have nobody to talk to nobody that he could go to that had any idea what he was talking about.

He goes to somebody and brings it up. They're like Daniel. I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, I can't help you but he had no one to turn to so he did the exact right thing. It was went from I'm not mistaken chapter 8 was in the time of Belshazzar.

So a few years later. You've got Darius showing up in chapter 9. So a few years later still has nobody to talk to him about all these things and I can guarantee you he this wasn't his first prayer as to what all this meant and he had no one to talk to who would he talk to?

He's going to talk to the one who gave him the visions is going to pray to him and it probably took a while but as we see later God was faithful to answer when he answered it was incredible.

Yeah, so let's start in Daniel chapter 9. We're going to read Daniel chapter 9 1 through 1 through 14 and we're going to we're going to see the heart of this man and the where his focus lies who is hardest for as we look at Daniel chapter 9 starting in verse 1 in the first year of Darius the son of Osiris the of Median the son of who was making over the kingdom of the Chaldeans in the first year of his reign.

I Daniel observed in the books the number of the years which was revealed as the word of the Lord to Jeremiah the prophet for the completion of the desolations of Jerusalem namely 70 years. So I gave attention to the Lord God to seek him in prayer and supplications with fasting sackcloth and ashes and I prayed to the Lord my God and confessed and said alas O Lord the great and awesome God who keeps his covenant and loving kindness for those who love him and keep his commandments.

We have sinned committed iniquity acted wickedly and rebelled even turning aside from that commandments and ordinances moreover. We have not listened to the servants the prophets who spoken in thy name to our kings our princes our fathers and all the people of the land righteousness.

Belongs to thee O Lord but to us open shame as it is this day to the men of Judah the inhabitants of Jerusalem and all Israel those who were who are nearby and those who are far away in all the countries to which thou has driven them because of their unfaithful deeds which they have committed against thee open shame belongs to us O Lord to our kings our princes and our fathers because we have sinned against thee to the Lord our God belong compassion and forgiveness for we have rebelled against him nor have we obeyed the voice of the Lord our God to walk in his teachings which he set before us through his servants the prophets indeed all Israel has transgressed the thy law and turned aside not obeying thy voice.

So the curse has been poured out on us along with the oath which is written in the law of Moses the servant of God for we have sinned against him thus he has confirmed his words which he has spoken against us and against our rulers who ruled us to bring on us great calamity for under the whole heaven there has not been done anything like what is what was done to Jerusalem as is written in the law of Moses all this calamity has come on us yet.

We have not sought the favor of the Lord our God by turning from our iniquity and giving attention to that truth. Therefore the Lord has kept the calamity in store and brought it on us for the Lord our God is righteous with respect to all his deeds which he has done but we have not obeyed his voice.

Yeah, we definitely see the heart of Daniel and he is his realization of the sin of the nation the sin of his people and he's confessing he's crying out to the Lord their sin and the 70 weeks or 70 years that we were talking about earlier comes in in verse 2 the desolations that God was bringing upon Jerusalem through those 70 years that prophecy was in Jeremiah and they were this was they were in the middle of fulfilling that prophecy and it was coming to an end.

What's your commentary on that section?

Dan it starts. I guess we need to start by understanding exactly what these 70 years were all about. Yeah, got to go to two places in Scripture. Number one is in Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy chapter 30 verses 1 through 5 pre before this.

God had been speaking to the nation of Israel. They're about to cross over the Jordan into the land of Canaan. They're going to face Giants. They're going to take over them. They're going to take the land because God had promised it to him.

These were the the faithful generation who actually going to go in. He told them he says you you are going to fall down and then he describes in incredible detail the things that will happen when they're being destroyed when the Covenant is finally completely broken, but he says also that if they fall away, they'll be taken off into exile in chapter 30 verses 1 through 5.

It says so it shall be when all these things have come upon you the blessing and the curse which I have said before you and you call them to mind in all the nations where the Lord your God has banished.

You know, there's they have lost the land. They've gone off into exile and you return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your heart and soul according to all I command you today you and your sons then the Lord your God will restore you from captivity and have compassion on you and will gather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you if outcast in the ends of the earth from there.

The Lord will gather you back or yeah, we'll gather you and from there he will bring you back the Lord your God will bring you into the land which your father's possessed and you will possess it and he will prosper you and multiply you more than your fathers.

So what they were doing the place where they're at in the middle of this is that they had gone off into exile. Jeremiah speaks of it. He's telling them right before they go off into exile, you know exactly what's going to happen.

So he says this and in Jeremiah 25 11 through 12 says this whole land will be a desolation and a horror in these nations will serve the king of Babylon 70 years then it will be when the 70 years are completed.

I will punish the king of Babylon and that nation declares the Lord for their iniquity in the land of the Chaldeans and I will make it an everlasting desolation. So he's he's saying that they're going to go off into exile is going to be a 70 year exile and then they're going to be punished of the Chaldeans of Babylonians, but that he will call his people back to himself.

Now he talks about this again in chapter 29 of Jeremiah says for thus says the Lord when 70 years have been completed for Babylon. I will visit you and fulfill my good word to you to bring you back to this place.

And this is very interesting because a lot of folks yoink this one directly out of context says for I know the plans that I have for you declares the Lord plans for welfare and not for Calamity to give you a future and a hope this was in the context of his covenant blessings to the people of Israel while they're in exile telling them that the end of the time where they were being under the curse of God that at the end of that time God was going to bring them out because their end their final purpose wasn't to be destroyed in Babylon.

Their final purpose was for a hope was for a welfare was for something good which as we find out by reading, you know on into the New Testament was Jesus coming and forgiving men of their sins. That is the plans that God had for them to prosper and not to harm them.

It is not about us getting a Bentley or a nice house. So just put that right back in context actually makes us it's better when you put it back in context than when you think of God as your magic genie.

Oh, no, I'm going to hear from some people on that one, but that's okay. You needed to hear it. So when when Daniel's here Daniel sees he's close to the end of that 70 years. He's Brian year 67 or 68 of this 70 years and he says, oh man, we we need something to happen because we're over here in exile and it doesn't look like we're repenting.

It doesn't look like we're turning back to God. It doesn't look like look at verse 13. It says and it was written in the law of Moses. All this calamity has come on us and then remember what it said. It said and if you turn you and your sons you turn back to the Lord God will go wherever they are and restore them.

But look at what it says here as is written in the law of Moses. All this calamity has come on us yet. We have not sought the favor of the Lord that promise of return to the land of the Lord Lord our God by turning from our iniquity and giving attention to your truth.

Therefore the Lord has kept the calamity in store and brought it on us. They had opportunity to go back to the land of Israel after their time in Babylon, but while they were there, they didn't even turn from their sins.

Then they almost hardened themselves. They know a new generation have been born there and that generation love the things of Babylon. They didn't turn turn back to God. So what Daniel is seeing here is it kind of it fits really well with his anxiety with his being exhausted with his no wondering what is going on.

There are rams running into each other. There's supposedly a hope of a golden statue and and silver and bronze and iron and iron and clay all falling down, but there's also you know, I saw what God did to Nebuchadnezzar now the calamity that we have it's still going to be here, you know, what's going to happen.

We thought Babylon was going to be it now. Here we are. We're in the Medo-Persian Empire and we're still suffering. We haven't gone back home yet and I thought this the 70 years was going to be it and so he's wondering, you know, what is God doing?

And he prays a little bit more and then in true God fashion. He he answers him quite impressively. Yeah.

And I found that as we were talking earlier that verse that you find in scripture that that helps to helps me to reorient my thinking my theology my way of approaching God and you're exactly right. I can see how you can see where his anxiety comes from because the his his nation has not sought the favor of the Lord.

I mean, he he's pulling from Moses. He this promise and this returning to the land which I'm sure he desires and would would rather be there than being captivity and be underneath someone else, but his people have not sought the favor of the Lord, which you know, you read which Moses spoke of and and what does turning what does seeking the favor of the Lord look like and that's what was interesting to me.

It was turning from our iniquity and giving attention to the truth. How I mean how far off track do we as or to the church leaders? How far off track do we get from where we should be? I'm sure the desire at least hourly anyways is to seek the favor of the Lord.

We want God's blessings. We want his favor. We want him to be pleased be him him to be happy, but we we choose our own direction. We choose our own path. This is this is what will bring in the people.

This is what you know, this will this is what will bring pleasure to God if we do it this way or whatever but but Daniel is saying and of course pulling from Moses pulling from Deuteronomy to find the favor of the Lord is to turn from our sin and give attention to the truth.

Of course, the truth is is God's word and the truth is is Jesus Christ himself. So I think we can heed we would do well to heed this. I'm the scripture here for practical purposes for us in our lives individually and as leaders in the church.

Just to have the favor of the Lord is to turn from sin and give attention to the truth. So let's look at the next session 1515 through 19. Let me read it for us real quick. And now old Lord our God who has brought by people out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand and has made a name for thyself which is going to come up here in a second as it is this day.

We have sinned. We have been wicked. Oh Lord in accordance with all thy righteousness righteous acts. Let now than anger and our wrath turn away from the city Jerusalem the Holy Mountain for because of our sins and the iniquities of our fathers Jerusalem and the people have become a reproach to all those around us.

So now our God listen to the prayer of thy servant and his and to his supplications and for thy sake Oh Lord let thy face shine on that desolate Sanctuary. Oh my God incline than ear and here open than eyes and see our desolations and the city which is called by thy name for we are not presenting our supplications before thee on account of any marriage on our own but on account of thy great compassion.

Oh Lord here. Oh Lord forgive. Oh Lord. Listen and take action for thine own sake for my God do not delay or oh my God do not delay because that city and that people are called by thy name. So it seems like Daniel Daniel's perception here is that the only way out of this is to appeal to to God's.

The God's own name to God's own glory. Even though it's our it's our sin that has caused this desolation on Jerusalem and on the temple, but for your your sake for your namesake for your reputation for your face, please please shine upon Jerusalem again.

What do you see here in this this next section?

This is extremely. It's extremely important. Especially when we will look at the last four verses. Of this chapter to see why exactly God was planning on you know, the favor that he's going to hear about from Gabriel.

Why is why are they going to receive it? We already know that God had promised to them that if they were no evil, they would be sent off in exile if they were if they turn to repent of their sin while they're in exile to be brought back.

They they don't but still we know that there was Jews in Jerusalem with a rebuilt temple at the time of Jesus. Why did all this happen? It's exactly the basis of Daniel's request is exactly right. God glorify yourself because you're worth it.

It's not us. It's not your people. Your people are sinful man. I think about myself. I mean God we want you to bless our nation. We want you to we want to see Revival in Oneanna and I'm like, why would God do that for us?

Now think about it, but certainly not because of me because I'm a horrible wretched sinner. But why do we really want God to bring Revival to our city? Why do we want to see our rulers do? Well, we do it because God's not being worshipped by them, but he deserves to be worshipped by every single create create creature.

Sorry, I was having tongue troubles every single creature that he's created. No, was it saying in was a Psalm 150 everything that has breath praise the Lord everything every rock every fish. I know rocks don't breathe but bear with me every rock every fish every bird every blade of grass everything that he has ever created every comet out in space all of it.

God deserves to be worshipped by them. He doesn't deserve to have his creation rebel against him. And so for his namesake on account of his goodness and his mercy Daniel pleads to God to act when they don't deserve it which really is the basis of our salvation God.

We need to have our sins forgiven, you know, well, why nothing in me because I didn't know just said I'm a sinner. That's why I have sins that need to be forgiven. So why why should God forgive us and God should forgive us because God is good.

He deserves to be worshipped by his creation. That's why God does anything it's for our good and for his glory. And so Daniel, you know, like a true Holy Spirit inspired prophet of God hit the nail right on the head.

Exactly.

It's interesting how he makes that transition, you know, we stopped in verse 13 where he says we've not sought your favor. We've not sought the favor of the Lord our God by turning from our iniquity and giving attention to that truth and then he transitions over to it's not happening.

It's not going to happen if it's going to happen is going to be you right and it's going to be because of you and for you. So that's why I'm appealing to you God because we we can't do it. We didn't do it.

We haven't done it. We're not going to do it. He it's like he sees the heart of man and knows the heart of man that it's not going to happen that finding favor with God through obedience. It's just it's not going to happen.

It's almost as if he like you said being being filled with the Holy Spirit. He is he is one of the ones that is seeing what God wanted them to see, you know, how in the New Testament the idea of who the Messiah was was was foggy to them.

Well, I guess they they understood it clearly because they saw it one way but then it become foggy when Jesus began to present himself as the Messiah but differently than what they expected. And here Daniel is is like he's getting it.

God is asking us to obey God has given us these commands. He's given us the Commandments the 10 Commandments eat, but we can't do it. So I'm appealing to you to you the only one who can do it. So I find that very interesting and enlightening that that that transition there.

So we see Daniel seeking the Lord. Let's let's move on to the next section verses 20 through 23. And this is where we begin to hear answer from the Lord now while I was speaking and praying and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel and presenting my supplication before the Lord my God in behalf of the Holy Mountain of my God while I was still speaking in prayer.

Then the man Gabriel whom I have seen in the vision previously came to me in my extreme weariness about the time of the evening offering and he gave me instruction. And talk with me and said Oh Daniel.

I have now come forth to give you insight and understanding at the beginning of your supplications. The command was issued and I have come to tell you for you are highly esteemed. So give heed to the message.

And gain understanding of the vision. So what a blessing for Daniel that he like you say like you pointed out in verse 27 of chapter 8, but I was astounded at the vision and there was no one to explain it.

So he's living in this loneliness. He's living in like you said in a time where he can't he doesn't have any companions, co-workers, no one to confide in, confidant, whatever you want to call it and he goes to the only one he can go to.

And so what a great comfort for Daniel here that the only place that he can go is not silent and answers him. And so to me, this is blessing from God of grace and kindness compassion from God that that Daniel goes to the only place he can and God answers and he's God is sending his messenger Gabriel again to Daniel and from what I see Gabriel is setting him up to give him a new revelation on top of what he's already experienced before with the visions of the kingdoms and the statue and the goats and the Rams.

He's going to give him a new revelation and this confirmation so that this transition that we were talking about from this insight that it seems Daniel has of not being able to do him individually and the people of his people Israel.

They're not able to do things. They're not able to obey and so he begins to appeal to God. He has affirmation here in in verse 23 for you are highly esteemed. So it's affirmation that his thinking his prayer is his heart is in the right direction.

So it would we would do well in my opinion to you know to heed that heart of Daniel where God finds favor with that kind of heart. To seek him in that way. So what's your what's your view here on versus 23 23 Daniel.

Was struggling and God responded several ways first. He sent him a friendly face and somebody that he could talk to that knew what he was talking about somebody that can answer some questions. Oh man, Daniel must have been must have been like, you know, thank God you're here.

I needed somebody to talk to and then to have him say, you know, Daniel, you've been going about this the right way. You've been esteemed by God. God is happy with the way that you're doing this. You're praying to God for the forgiveness of your sins.

You're trying to seek the forgiveness of the sins of your people. You're going about it the right way. I'm gonna throw you a bone here. Give you a word of hope which is very important, especially when you look at what that word of hope is because there's a lot of folks today who will look at these and say this isn't a hopeful message.

This is a message in which you know, it doesn't isn't prophesied much good. I mean, there's a little good but mainly the the main point is that things are going to get destroyed. Um, but we have to remember know what was the original understanding of this prophecy as given to Daniel.

It was a message of complete and utter hope here your bud. You need this. You need to know that when you're down and out and you look like things aren't going to get any better and nobody else is trying to repent and everybody's trying to stay locked up in their sin.

Here's some hope for you and your folks.

It's just incredible. So here we are on the last section versus 24 through 27 and this is where it gets controversial for folks even even between Dan and myself. There's going to be some probably some discrepancies, but we're not going to look at that tonight.

Next time we're together. We are going to look at the portion of this passage that that deals with time. You have the the 70 the 70 weeks of Daniel and you have Daniel breaking down those those 70 weeks into three different sections.

And you have how to interpret that what that looks like how to add up the 70 weeks. What does 70 weeks mean? We'll take a look at the time the time frame and how the different types of interpretation or different kinds of interpretation that there are the ones that are legitimate the ones that are less legitimate in our opinion.

We'll look at that in the next video, but for now we want to look at our perspective where we pretty much have agreement on Dan and I but also where we differ and it may come across different like like Dan was saying this next section.

If you if you hold a certain position on end times, you'll come back to Daniel or you'll hear folks come back to Daniel to try to put a certain character in in Daniel put a certain time gap or in in Daniel chapter 9 that we don't see.

We don't see those things in Daniel. We see something different. So that's the part that we're going to focus on tonight. We'll focus on the time aspect in the next video. So let me look or let's read together Daniel chapter 9 24 through 27 and we'll look at look at the place and the people that he talks about 70 weeks have been decreed for your people in your Holy City to finish the transgression to make an end of sin to make atonement for iniquity to bring in everlasting righteousness to seal up vision and prophecy and anoint the most holy place.

So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks in 62 weeks and it will be built again. And with Plaza and moat even in times of distress then after the 62 weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing and the people of the Prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary and it's in will come with a flood even to the end.

There will be war desolations are determined verse 27 and he will make a firm covenant with the many for a week for one week, but in the middle of the week, he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate even until a complete destruction one that is decreed is poured out on the one who makes desolate.

All right, I underline in verse 24 when he says 70 weeks have been decreed for your people and your Holy City. So this is what come to mind. When it when I first look start looking at this section and and I see who it was intended for thinking about the end times theology that I grew up with the pre-millennial dispensational view.

They want to put a gap and undetermined amount of year gap between the 69th week of Daniel here in chapter 9 and the 70th week and they call it the time of the Gentiles. I think that's what Daniel you referred to it earlier in our conversation the time of the Gentiles or the church age and and I find it interesting that here in verse 24.

What Gabriel tells Daniel is that 70 weeks have been the decreed for your people and your Holy City. No gap. No Gentile age. No church age the 70 weeks from one end to the other has been decreed for your people and your Holy City.

So you can comment on that here in just a second. The next part is you'll see six things that Gabriel brings up that must happen. You'll hear some people talk about how maybe some of these have taken place, but not all of them or none of them have taken place going back to how I usually what I usually bring up in the introduction of these videos is that Dan and I hold a preterist position where most of the prophecies have been fulfilled already in the past preterist means past.

And so I see and I think Dan also sees that the six things that that Gabriel brings up here at the end of verse 24 that must take place have taken place. You'll you'll see the part about and to anoint the most holy place, you know, we see that that's how you've got a certain in-house position that is looking for a rebuilt temple in our future.

But and you see that in verse 25. So you are to know and discern that from issuing a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Messiah. So I would say that we're talking about the the same the same temple the same rebuilt temple in in all these verses.

Those that hold to the the pre-trib Rapture view. They're going to agree with us on some of this dating some of this measuring but then differ between the 69 and 70 weeks, but I would say that the reissuing of the temple is that rebuilt temple.

We're not to be looking for one to come in the future in our future. I don't think anywhere in Scripture. It speaks of another rebuilt temple and this is definitely something that I don't understand that in in that rebuilt temple that's supposed to come in our future.

Guess what? They're supposed to do again. They're supposed to reinstate sacrifices. What a spit in the face to Christ and what he did on the cross. How in the world you get that? I don't know but but here I would say that the the rebuilding of the temple the the to anoint the most holy place the the temple Jerusalem the sacrifices everywhere that it's speaking of a temple is speaking of the same temple.

It never jumps to a future temple thousands and thousands of years later. I may have some more comments but then I'll let you take over and you tell me what you think and and go ahead and explain to us about the the Messiah the prince the the Messiah is to be cut off and help us understand the postmillennial position there.

Yeah, this is 70 weeks or 70 sevens, which that's the word for weeks. It actually says sevens in there have been decreed for you and your people and your Holy City. Now, what's going to happen? What's going to take place among the people in the city in that time period?