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Well greetings, welcome to the dividing line here We are in the big studio mainly because I just didn't want to make rich move all these cameras to the little studio

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You have to do something about that I'm not sure what exactly we're gonna do, but I I actually think rich likes doing it

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There's he gets this little twinkle in his eye when he's crawling around amongst wires And and he he talks to himself constantly by the way

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I mean, you know rich is around when he's talking but he's only talking to himself and and So he's you know, well, that's 60

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B and that's 0 DB and I'm doing It just I sort of sit back and you know, okay, whatever.

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So here we are four days post operative here and Pushing it probably a little bit too hard people tend to do that I'm I'm sort of feeling it, but I've just got so much to catch up on.

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I just I What am I supposed to do? July is coming fast

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Less I've got I've got less than two months before my next trip and You know lots of stuff to do between now and then and I've fallen so far behind physically

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As far as fitness is concerned. It's gonna be pretty tough to get caught back up. So you just got to push it and There's no reason for me not to push it because the issue that I've been having

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Once it's taken care of and it's until it happens again Doesn't really matter how hard you're pushing yourself.

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You're not gonna make it happen faster or slower anything else So you just do what you got to do. So anyway,

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I was looking at Various things that I had stuck in My Bookmarks folder on Twitter and You know, you'll see stuff in a boy

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We that'd be something to be worth talking about and you stick in there and then you don't think about it And so I wanted to sort of clean some of that out which means we'll probably be covering a lot of different topics today thinking biblically for all of us who are biblicists and are not ashamed to say that we are and continue to go those of you who keep redefining it in some other way as if That means you only have the

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Bible and can only use Bible words Stop Quit it.

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I have on the board. I Was disappointed last week Cruz Was one of the people defending

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IVF and stuff. I realize that's complicated issue, but it's It was disappointing, but he was questioning

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Sarah Netburn Now Sarah Netburn The Biden regime

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I don't call it administration never have from the beginning It is a regime. It is an anti -american treasonous regime

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It is intent upon destroying everything that makes

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America American and of course, it's people it's populated by people who have been trained in this way of thinking for decades now and So The Biden regime has nominated this woman judge

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Sarah Netburn for the Southern District of New York Sarah Netburn and Cruz went after her for a decision that she made

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She Placed a six foot two tall man now again

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I live in the real world. I live in the world of reality I live in a world that doesn't play games and insanity

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No morals, no ethics Nothing like that. This is a man. He has male genitalia and even if you

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Remove the male genitalia. He's still a man There's something called chromosomes

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When we when we dig up a body That was buried, you know 4 ,000 years ago

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We can still determine whether this was a male or female you can do that a number of different ways the skeletons are different and The you know, if you you could happen to find

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DNA you'd be able to tell From the DNA whether this is a male or female This is a male serial rapist

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Who confessed to having raped a Nine -year -old boy and I think a 17 year old female

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So an equal opportunity rapist now in a just society. He would have been executed by now

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That's what God's law says He would have been executed by now But this isn't a just society.

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We don't believe that life matters and In fact, we are our moral and ethical brains have been rotted so badly

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That we don't realize That when we go, oh, you know, we should just put them in prison and you know, give them, you know food and clothing and medicine and if they want to have sex change operations, they can do that and It's insanity and it will it's part of the the death rattle of Western society and So here's this man six foot two serial rapist self -admitted

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Who decides he's a gal? Okay, that's insanity. It's rebelling. It's stupid. It's ridiculous

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No society that will last for any period of time at all Will even give a second look if there was a meaningful judge

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Involved in this they should have immediately gone. You're nuts. Go back to yourself What are in the end of that?

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but no, it ends up before Sarah Netburn and Sarah Netburn is a secular nutball the product of The university training of today

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There is no reason to respect university training today. Hello. I don't know why we keep doing this

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If if you are not taught to be able to think rationally If you are if you can literally look at a six foot two tall man and go hi, sweetie

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Why are we respecting this I I have no earthly idea none Sarah Netburn Sends this six foot two male to a female prison because he says he's a woman

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And you know, I Let's say on my 30th birthday.

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Someone had Given me a fiction story about this happening

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We all would have gone I Could never get that crazy.

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Well, here we are. Well, here we are and And of course the

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Biden regime wants to reward her for her complete insanity because that's what they want

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They are seeking to destroy this society And they're smiling and they don't they don't care if anybody knows it doesn't matter to them

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Their voter is going to vote for them and it doesn't matter what they do It doesn't matter whether they're the people voting for them can't afford groceries anymore

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It doesn't matter where they lock them in 15 -minute cities, which are also called concentration camps It doesn't matter if all their liberties and freedoms are taken away from them.

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They'll still vote for them Because they dole out the money that they've printed on the printing press in the back room and so The the founders knew that that was a danger and so this nation was not originally designed to allow any of this to happen, but Court decision after court decision step after step step after step takes time but even something that was

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Grandly designed can be taken apart slowly and has been taken apart slowly and that's that's where we are today so Ted Cruz goes after Sarah Netburn and I thought it was well worth

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Listening to this Clip because Just because here we go

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In your court what matters more The rights of individuals or your political ideology

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I Apply the law to the facts. I asked a question which matters more My political ideology doesn't matter at all.

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Okay, so I don't believe you okay, I was just completely through I Appreciate I Appreciate Cruz Trying to do what he's doing

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But that really wasn't the best question There is a much more basic Issue facing us in situations like The rights of individuals

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Political ideology What we're you know, we no longer function on the idea that there is a immoral an object an objective morality

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That should be referred to here. Most people just don't don't believe in objective morality any longer and you can't even really

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Pretended even in our political process, which means that political process will die of its own eventually and I think this case demonstrates that You are willing to subjugate the rights of individuals to satisfy your political ideology this case

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Involves a male defendant who raped a nine -year -old boy

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Was he guilty of that? Yes, the petitioner pled guilty to that. Okay, so he raped a nine -year -old boy.

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He also Raped a seventeen -year -old girl was he guilty of that? He pled guilty the petitioner pled guilty that crime as well.

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So was he guilty? I hope so because she pled guilty to it. He was a he when he did this.

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That's correct One year after being released again, he was convicted of having child pornography, is that correct?

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I'm unclear on exactly the time frame that you're at But but the petitioner was convicted of distributing child pornography child pornography that was images of adults violently raping children

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Abhorrent conduct. Okay for which there are real victims and this individual

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I just have to ask a abhorrent conduct in in whose world in Whose opinion who gets to who gets to determine these things?

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We're just this close to saying that's not abhorrent. That was just simply that's how they're born. That's what they want to do that but I mean objectivity is gone

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There is no objective moral standard any longer And You know, there's a lot of discussion going on right now about The Constitution and You know, is it too late for the

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Constitution? Things like that. It's not a matter of is it too late for the

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Constitution? The issue is is it too late for this society? And a lot of people are quoting

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John Adams which who I have been quoting on this subject for years and years and years I was quoting that Adams quote long before I ever heard anyone use the term

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Christian nationalism Long before that and Adams was the one who said that the

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Constitution cannot provide guidance.

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It cannot rule it cannot function for an immoral irreligious people, it's only for a moral and religious people and obviously

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His context and the context of everyone around him Religious wasn't just some vague

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Idea it was Christian now, it could be different kinds of Christian For most the colonies it didn't include

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Roman Catholicism, but it was Christianity and God's law and the

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Bible That was the assumed moral fabric To which appeal could be made

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We now live in a secular society where there is no there can be no appeal made to such things and So the honest question is

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Can you go back to the Constitution and what would that require well it would it would require a massive change on the part of the populace

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The population itself it would require a massive revival That rarely happens historically apart from major judgment national calamity invasion war famine pestilence whatever

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And So that's where that's where a lot of these questions are now coming from is

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What do you do When the people of the nation are themselves so degraded and While the primary mechanisms of the degradation has been the public indoctrination system the government indoctrination system

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So degraded morally and ethically that they can't live up to The standards of the

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Constitution which can grant to them freedoms and liberties freedoms and liberties require a

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Christian view of mankind otherwise, they have to be

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They can only be given to the people who can then use the power to take freedoms liberties from others to give them to themselves

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Tyranny of all the different forms So yeah when you hear

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Graduates of Brown University like this Talking about Horrific behaviors on whose standard

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That's the question Joel six foot two Biologically a man a minute ago.

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You said that when this Man decided that he was a she you you said this individual was quote.

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I wrote it down sober and entirely a female That phrase struck me as remarkable.

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Did this individual have male genitalia? I think what I said or at least that is a verbatim quote entirely a female

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Sorry, what I meant to say was hormonally a female. Okay, but that's What Hormonally a female

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Okay, you've got male genitalia. You're six foot two. You went through puberty as a male.

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You're a serial rapist and you are now Hormonally a female I have no respect for someone that can be this dull this deceived

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This is a cult It's a cult You know,

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I had experience in my 20s dealing with the Moonies Okay had some fascinating experiences dealing with the

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Moonies In those days even helped get a guy out of the

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Moonies Very beginning of this ministry long long time ago and So I've I've seen people who are who are in cults and we're talking mind control cults, there's the face of one a

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Judge in the judiciary of the United States of America. There is no reason to respect someone

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They can literally sit there and say well She's hormonally a female

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Right. Okay That's that's why she can assault females

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Sexually, there's a little bit of a problem here. Yeah, it's it's insanity. It's not entirely

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Did this individual have male genitalia? Yes, so you took a six foot two serial rapist serial child rapist with male genitalia and he said, you know,

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I'd like to be in a women's prison and Your answer was that sounds great to me.

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Let me ask you something the other women in that prison. Do they have any rights? Okay, I get it.

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I Get that this Judge Should be held accountable for endangering the women in base.

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I get it, but that's not the basic and foundational issue and maybe from Cruz's perspective

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We've already lost that that battle and so we can only fight it up here Which means we can never really fight it at all, but the issue is dealing with reality

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How stupid morally and ethically do you have to be? To have a six -foot -two cross -dressing person

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Serial rapist staying in front of you goes. I'm a girl now and you go. Okay.

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How stupid do you have to be? Seriously, this woman shouldn't be a school crossing guard

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Let alone a judge and if these the people we have how long can this last?

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How long can this last Is that a question?

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Yes, the other women in that prison. Do they have any rights? Of course Do they have the right not to have a six -foot -two man who is a repeat serial rapist put in as their cellmate?

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Senator Cruz I considered the facts presented to me and I reached a decision. I asked you a question

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I asked you a question Do they have a right not to have a six -foot -two man who is a serial rapist put in as their cellmate

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Do those women have a right to that every person who's incarcerated has the right to be safe in their space?

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But you didn't think so, you know, you didn't think so and in fact, I'm gonna give some quotes from your order because Senator Kennedy is right.

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This is not a judge's order. This is a political activist by the way, the beginning of your order big says at birth

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People are typically assigned to gender I got to say that would astonish a lot of Americans a lot of Americans think you go to the hospital a baby is born and He's congratulations.

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You have a little boy a little girl the assigned to gender I know you went to Brown but it sounds like it's in a college faculty lounge and there's our problem and there's our problem

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We've You know, I remember decades and decades ago hearing this insanity

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In the faculty lounges in the papers being presented and you know what we did

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We just went Yeah, there's those there's those university not nutcases again trying to get published and and we dismissed it because well

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It's just it's that's it's gonna stay there It didn't stay there and we should have known it wasn't gonna stay there

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But to me I just thought this is so insane it has to stay limited to that realm where you can have insanity and It's considered normal but we were wrong and Here it is out in the open and they they do not seem to be ashamed at all

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She's sitting there thinking what a Neanderthal man She has she has been taught to look back at Centuries of Western jurisprudence and common law and Theology as having been so far beneath where we are now

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So so much lower than we are. That's what she's sitting there thinking

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She's not embarrassed and until we start seeing evidence of the movement of the

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Spirit of God Causing these people to be ashamed of their thinking in their words and their behavior.

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It's just gonna keep going on like No bearing on reality the

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Bureau of Prison argued What I'm saying right now that if you put this person in a female prison

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There will be a risk of sexual assault to the women and you know what you did You said you didn't care about the women.

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Have you dealt? In what universe is someone who is a serial repeat child rapist

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Not at a risk of reoffending Senator as I do in every case.

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I know you've been told to repeat the line. I follow the law I asked a question in what universe is

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Someone who is a serial repeat child rapist not at risk of reoffending Sir I looked at the facts that were before me in this case all of the evidence including the statements of every

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Warden who had supervised this petition. I have to say if I think what she's saying is that There were people who submitted briefs on this motion who

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Went. Oh She is wonderful and This woman goes.

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Oh I'll believe what she says because she's a she and To recognize he's actually a he goes against the narrative of my worldview

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So he was right with the first question What's more important your? Ideology and obviously her ideology is most important because as a secularist, that's all they have

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That that's all there is. I think that's what she was saying. If I were the father of one of those women and You decided that my daughter

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Selma Was going to be a six -foot -two man who over and over and over again committed violent sexual assault

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I would say the entire justice system is absurd and it is clear on your record your political

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Ideology matters a heck of a lot more than the rights of those women that you endangered

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I think you're a radical and I think you have no business being a judge Well, that's obvious.

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Okay, let's let's just be obvious that that's obvious that she has if you have a

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Woman Pretending to be a judge who does who makes this kind of decision

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Again in a in a Same moral world that would be the end

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But we're not in a sane moral world and it can anger us and it angers me

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By the way, because I'll forget this if I don't I was riding yesterday again,

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I When when everything went south for me on the trip,

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I was I'd gotten back to us 500 kilometers ahead of my yearly goal as far as how far

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I want to ride and Then everything crashed and burned and so yesterday,

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I'm you know, so I'm going to go back and I'm going to go back and I'm starting to try to undo that damage and Try to at least catch up some of it.

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And so part of that is just having time in the saddle pedaling and So you've got to have stuff to listen to and so I Put together

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I grabbed Mike wingers Benny Hinn Video which came out.

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I don't know about a month and a half ago, I guess And I think it's four and a half hours long and Believe you me.

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I I know how much work goes into Having if you go four and a half hours and you're playing video clips

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And you have taken time there was one of them that he was there's one of him he was showing where This you know, it's in one of these huge rallies and He points out that what

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Hinn says is he's not doing the healing the only people he brings up on stage are the people who have already been healed and And now

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They're demonstrating that they've been healed but what he did with this, especially this one woman who had

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Cancer had metastasized into her shoulder and what he did is he he

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Took the time to go into The audio and You know crank up because Benny's over here with the microphone and They're over there.

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So so what they're saying is very difficult to hear So he'd go in and try to crank up the audio so that you could hear

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What the person was actually saying? and I guess at one point

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I guess Mike's mom had passed away last year from pancreatic cancer and They had someone brought up on stage who had allegedly just now been healed of pancreatic cancer and What Hinn does with this person these are all these people all just props

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Kosti Hinn has talked about the editing process and the vetting process and all this stuff that that goes on at these crusades and You know

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Mike said I'm really having to pray here because I know how painful this is

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I watched my mom die of it and to see him knocking this woman over knowing the agony.

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This is causing her and Then trying to get her to say that she's been healed or the pains gone and the pain isn't gone

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And he He People did lose it at one point said you're says it says to him.

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You're such a scumbag And I don't blame him the slightest bit for saying that and not just because of the situation was mom, but it just but for I think it was four and a half hours and So I just wanted to thank

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Mike for doing that I I don't know that I could stomach Doing something that long.

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I I thought this morning. I didn't get around to doing it. I would like to contact Justin And ask him if anyone has reliable information on the total income

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The total amount of money that has been donated to Benny Hinn ministries since its founding I would think at least on some level that kind of data is out there

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Because As he pointed out at the beginning, you know Benny Hinn goes to Africa and has

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Astonishing numbers of people hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people

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That come to his crusades and I would say these kinds of individuals are some of the

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Hinn and people like him. Not only are they just wolves just feeding on on the ignorant masses

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But they are probably the greatest hindrance to the progress of the true gospel in the entire continent of Africa and So I didn't finish

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I didn't ride that long and I was listening at faster speed try to get through it a little bit quicker

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But look it up on YouTube Mike Winger and his just put

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Mike Winger Winger Benny Hinn And it'll it'll pull up and I think you'll find it to be very useful

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Very helpful. So anyway Speaking of apostates

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There's a lot of them a lot of them out there I grabbed this video from Protestia a couple weeks ago

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This guy looks familiar to me the name looks familiar to me too What was the

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PC USA? Yeah, Mark Sandlin PC USA president church of the

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Covenant PC USA is the guy's name I Don't know.

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You know it I Could be completely wrong But I just have this feeling that I've had some communication contact something

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But if you want to know how far PC USA has gone You know,

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I've told the stories before about where the PC USA was back in the 1980s when I was at a large

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Southern Baptist Church, and I ran a television camera and Sometimes Sometimes we get hired to to do stuff for other people and Friend of mine who's now at Apologia Also did that kind of work even though at a much higher level than I did and He had been at the

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PC USA convention in Phoenix when they made their first big capitulation to the homosexual movement and And I had a number of PC USA professors in seminary as well and So This has been going on for a long time when

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I did the debate with Barry Lynn in 2001 I believe it was

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That was at a PC USA Church, and they were one of the last PC USA churches that was trying to hold out

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Trying to hold on And You know that they've all lost out

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They've anyone who continue to have almost any level of biblical faithfulness has had to abandon the

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PC USA Well, how bad does it how? What happens when a denomination goes full bore woke?

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Well, this is what happens so here is a brief one minute and four seconds

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Here is a PC USA minister at least it's a guy. I suppose there's something to be said there

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Answering the question do you believe Jesus was God? Do you think

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Jesus was God well? If you look at the synoptic Gospels Matthew Mark and Luke During his life and in his teachings

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Jesus doesn't even seem to believe he is God That idea actually was added much later like in the

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Gospel of John, and it's likely you know something that was just Written into his story and for me actually

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Jesus not Being God is a good thing it's actually a very good thing if if what we hope to get from the life and teachings of Jesus is to Learn how to love one another and how to develop a closer relationship and understanding of God through it

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And I for me that is what it's about It's much more helpful To see a person who is actually a person doing it rather than a

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God doing it It's it's even hopeful now. Do I do I believe that Jesus had a unique relationship with God?

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Well, it's hard for me to read the Gospels and to think anything other than that But I don't need him to be

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God in order to believe that Okay, so here's here's where the the

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PC USA has gone You Know There's supposed to be a confessional standard called the

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Westminster Confession of Faith but All of that, you know

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Once the Bible becomes a living document that you can interpret as you wish And that's what you just heard.

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You know, what you just heard is the impact of the Bart Ehrman style A Perspective being applied to theology and So what you'll hear in and again, you need to recognize this

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This is this is true in the vast majority of seminaries and everything else today

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Fan on there we go turn the fan on so we can stop sweating up here and Turn there we go.

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Yeah now we'll hopefully cool it off a little bit in here This is this is so normal in the majority of Bible colleges and seminaries that most of the people listening this in this audience would

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Be stunned. Hopefully if you've been listening for a long time, you've heard me say over and over again.

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We're in the minority Well, the reasons I don't buy these Majority scholarship arguments because they're bogus

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This is this is what you get at Fuller this is what you get all over the place is what you just heard

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There is no they do not believe even when I was at Fuller and Fuller was much more conservative back then

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Even when I was there the idea that Hmm so you're saying the synoptics and John are giving us

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Contradictory views of Jesus because he said we read Matthew Mark and Luke Because he's got admit you read

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John that's pretty clear even Bart Ehrman says that and Back when

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I was there what you would hear was Well, there is a

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There is a tension in the text a Tension in the text,

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I don't know how many times I heard there's a tension and So fundamentally what that ends up leaving you with is

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I get to choose Which aspect of the text

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I want to put emphasis on and I can't tell you you're wrong to put emphasis someplace else

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That's why I can still see the guy's face in my mind Don't remember his name, but I I can see his face in my mind real nice fellow that started at Fuller at the same time

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I did here in the Phoenix extension and Over the years that I went there

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He ended up when he graduated with he graduated with an MDiv in confusion

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He knew what he believed when he started he didn't know what he believed me finish and He wasn't the only one that had that happen to him if you didn't if you came in Not knowing what you believed

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You weren't going to be given any encouragement To actually solidify your beliefs. You're gonna be getting a lot of encouragement to de solidify your beliefs in a context like that But at the same time one of the things that this does

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Emphasize and I I wish I had The link

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I wonder Yeah, I don't think I could find it anymore. I did some somewhere

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Between 2010 and 2017 somewhere in that time period

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I Did a series of sermons? Where I presented the deity of Christ from the

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Gospel of Mark and I I would just highly recommend highly suggest to everybody that if you if you want

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You know people will ask me, you know, what can I do to Strengthen my Christian life strengthen my devotional life strengthen, you know do things that it's gonna make me a stronger

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Christian Well, let me suggest something to you Investing the time to learn how to recognize

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Mark's testimony to the deity of Christ That involves understanding What synoptic

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Gospels are Old Testament backgrounds? There's a lot to this but Becoming proficient in the scriptures enough

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To be able to sit back and hear someone like this guy going. Well, yeah

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Mark And go no, that's that's not true and in fact, there's tremendous consistency between Matthew Mark Luke and John and all this stuff that you've been taught in seminary is really bogus and and it doesn't seem to me that there's probably almost any meaningful discussion as To how bogus it is in those seminaries any longer.

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I Was Fuller's token fundamentalist in the late 1980s graduated in 89

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So even then It was becoming less and less normative to have any voice that questioned the left -leaning

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Consensus and I doubt it exists at all now in that in that context at all.

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So I would just you know When you read Mark chapter 14 and you see

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Jesus quoting from Daniel 7 and Psalm 110 and Identifying himself as the

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Son of Man and the high priest tears his robes You heard the blasphemy what further witnesses what need witnesses?

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It's not enough to just have that written down the flyleaf your Bible in the back when you can

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Identify the sources See how the being put together Make the application and explain why the high priest is going

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Blasphemy right there that's That's when you've you've managed to glom on to something and and go with it from there okay, uh,

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I Hope this is gonna work. Let me Got one more here

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Okay, hold on a second wait a minute Don't do that. There we go. All right.

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Now this is really badly done and I don't know all the context here But a

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Fellow by the name of Timothy Gordon. I know he is Other than he's a sophist and if you don't know what a sophist is

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You haven't read much about I read much of the Reformers respond Roman Catholicism Timothy Gordon Says no

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Protestant will debate the epistemology of solo scriptura with me because of this proof watch until the end now it's not long

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It's two minutes and 13 seconds. So at least you can The nice thing about this is you can sort of get the outline

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There's so many times People will post something and and I'd sort of like to Respond to it, but you'd have to invest two hours and Put something together from the 40 minute mark and from the 48 minute mark and from the hour and 12 minute mark

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Put it all together to finally have what the argument is and I don't have two hours to do that So I I generally don't

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But It is helpful. I mean we have done this over and over and over and over again

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On the dividing line down through the down through the decades We certainly have dealt with inerrancy inspiration canon the need to properly

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Categorize what we're talking about very frequently. These things are you know, since they're related

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But not identical people will mix the categories and it becomes very confusing at that point

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But the vast majority of evangelical preaching and and teaching in our churches and in a lot of our seminaries will not deal with Challenges like this and certainly it's obvious to me amongst

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Roman Catholics Because this is the Roman Catholic argument There is very little self -reflection as to the ambiguity of their own position and What I mean by that I'm probably gonna

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I would totally freak rich out if I stood up. I don't know. I might make it. I Might make it

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I'm gonna try it. Anyways, let's see. Yeah. See I yeah, see I'm too tall for it. Yeah.

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Okay, so anyway We press on Roman Catholics think that because they have a

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Allegedly infallible canon That they have no epistemological issues in regards to how that canon was

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Defined they also don't seem to recognize that the people who have been defending The idea of inspiration

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Mechanisms of inspiration consistency of scripture have not been the Roman Catholic the

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Jesuits pretty much put an end to that Many of them do not have any idea How Violent the attacks of Rome were on the

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Reformation and hence on the original language text of the Bible for example

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So much of what I have to deal with with people pushing tr -only ism and stuff like that came out of a time period where Reformers the

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Reformation was fighting for its existence against the counter -reformation and the attack was Against the validity of scripture as a whole.

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I think the Jesuits and the counter -reformation were trying to make the

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Bible dependent upon the church and so What they don't realize is if if you find information online that helps to defend the historicity consistency and Interpretation of Scripture inspiration of Scripture it probably didn't come from Roman Catholics.

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It came from believing conservative Protestants and in this day with Francis With the with the collapse of any kind of meaningful argument that there is a

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Unchanging apostolic tradition. Did you hear we played it yesterday?

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I could pull it up But did you hear? What Francis said about What a conservative is who want to hold on not look beyond it.

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How are you supposed to conserve? Supposed apostolic tradition if you have that idea and that is the idea of of Liberation theology and he is a liberation theologian from South America So in this day of Francis where everything is up in the air where the consistent teaching

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That in the year 1600 in 1592 you have the Catechism of the Council of Trent capital punishment is

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Said to be proper and appropriate Now it's always a sin

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I have said and I've yet to have anyone mount a meaningful argument in response

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Pope Francis would have been burnt the stake By the Inquisition the year 1600 if you can't it mount a defense guys

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Tell me that's not true. How are you gonna tell me? If he said the things he said back then and stuck to them

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Do you really think? That that would have been allowed to just go on by no, he would've been a heretic

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Who didn't burn the state? That's a fact. What does that say to you?

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Epistemologically because you have linked and connected your epistemology to an office that is unbiblical and has developed and Changed over the centuries and that is a fact

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Indisputable the indisputable fact so The fact is the

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Roman Catholic Church did not have a dogmatic canon of The Scriptures in the

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New Testament in particular but the Scriptures as a whole because they decided to make a decision that the

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Tradition of the church before that had not made With in regards to the deuterocanonical books the apocryphal until 1546

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April of 1546, so if you're gonna argue you must have an infallible

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Canon For scripture to function as scripture scripture could not function Until 1546 in that way to do well, they just simply relied upon the

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Pope. That's not true. That is not true. I It's not true

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How do you have the Council of Nicaea? How do you have counsel? Well, but they had to be approved by the

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Pope That's anachronism. No one back then believed that That developed later

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It just isn't true Scriptures function from the start

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Without a dogmatic canon That's a fact. Oh But you have to have an infallible canon and that has to come from some tradition and well, how do you know?

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It's your tradition You can't know anything about tradition anymore if Francis can change tradition as easily as he has

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Don't talk to me about your unchanging tradition. It's a bunch of baloney You don't have it.

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You can't even tell me with dogmatic certainty How many ecumenical councils we've had and when it comes to interpretation of Scripture?

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You can't tell me which verses have been infallibly interpreted and even when you claim you have

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There's about six or seven verses that have been used in dogmatic definitions

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To where let's say well you have to accept that definition, but we're not saying that's the only

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Interpretation of that text It's Oh Bogus absolutely bogus

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You can't tell us what the Bible says you didn't have an infallible can until 1546 You don't even know which ecumenical counselors are supposedly ecumenical.

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There's been arguments about that back and forth and Now you got Francis which just You know turns the burner up to high on All of this stuff.

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So let's let's listen to this argument here You may have to play with the volume because and I'll crank it up as best

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I can But it it's bad It may not even be usable. If it's not we'll just go on from there

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Nothing there. Oops Well, I is there one inherent

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Bible? Christian must answer. Yes Can't answer now

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Yes, therefore if someone claimed Huck Finn was a book of the Bible or the John's Gospel wasn't

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Would either version still be the Bible the Christian must answer? No Can't answer.

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Yes that I have those versions Huck Finn Bible or the John this Bible would be the Bible. You must answer.

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No as a Christian One too few or one too many inerrant books cannot unifically be called the

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Bible Okay, let me just stop this for just for a moment Dealing with the

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Canon and especially the fact that Both between Malachi and Matthew and then between We don't know revelations last one written, but whatever the last news hasn't written was and The end of the fourth century

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Similar time frames similar context and situations and You will have time periods in there for example,

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Justin Martyr clearly did not have a complete Canon in the New Testament. Does that mean he didn't have a

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Bible? No, this is something that God Since it's not a divine revelation

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Since it's not an angel coming down with a golden index Since that's the case then and you don't have

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Instant telecommunications, you don't have fax machines or have telephones that have computers You're going to have not only in places in The early centuries where books are unknown

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But you might have situations especially in Rome because everybody brings their books to Rome where you have books

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That become popular in Rome that never become popular elsewhere Shepard of Hermes Epistle of Barnabas or you'll come to mind

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And so it's not this nice easy thing because the theory that States that you have to have

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This kind of cut and dry divine revelation type That you have to have this cut and dried kind of Canonical revelation just didn't happen in history

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So that bothers some people it shouldn't if you if you understand history If you've studied history, it really shouldn't, you know drive you crazy, but for some people it does

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Well, yeah All right. So let's just let it run here this time. All right Would either version still be the

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Bible the Christian must answer No Can't answer. Yes that I have those versions

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Fin Bible or the John this Bible would be the Bible. You must answer. No as a Christian one too few or one too many inerrant books cannot unifically be called the

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Bible who would Equivocally be referring to the Bible would be something else Therefore does scripture as divinely revealed contain an inerrant table of contents the

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Christian answer must be No, every Christian knows the Bible does not have its own inerrant table of contents.

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It's not Christian belief Since the answer is no, it doesn't we say doesn't then inerrancy require promulgation

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The Christian answer is yes it does To say that there's no promulgation of a

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Bible was not Christian belief. So we answer. Yes Can an inerrant promulgation be accomplished by a non infallible promulgator?

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the answer must be No, an inerrant promulgation cannot be

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Accomplished by a non infallible promulgator you can't say yes an inerrant text

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Can be promulgated Authoritatively published or edited by a fallible

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Editor publisher Promulgator this would be a violation of the first principle the logical axiom called the principle of proportionate cause

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In this case, it means no amount of finite evidence adduces

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Infinite certitude so the now, okay So this is where you get into sophistry you start using nice big words and make everybody go

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Oh, well, then we must have to have a infallible interpreter Even though they don't interpret anything infallibly and they haven't and they've contradicted themselves and are contradicting themselves and but it doesn't matter

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Don't worry about those things. Don't worry about the man behind them behind that behind that curtain over there The problem here is this kind of sophistry

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Could have been used by Jesus's opponents during his ministry

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Because there was no infallible canon so when

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Jesus quotes from Isaiah when Jesus quotes from Any of the

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Old Testament books all the other side has to do is well You don't you have violated the principle of blah blah blah

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Because you can't give me this infallible certitude as to what scripture is and so What all of this does is subjugate?

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scripture to Human authority and in this case human tradition infallible tradition

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And let's not worry about the fact that we don't have an infallible tradition That there is all sorts of clear evidence that the more people knew

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About the Old Testament books in church history the less likely they were to believe the apocryphal books were scripture

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That Pope's taught against this that all the way up to the time of Reformation It was clearly recognized

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Jerome and others Obvious stuff. It's right there on the surface, but we have an infallible tradition and I will tell you have an infallible you have to because you have to be able to promulgate it with infallible certainty so you have to assert infallibility of the promulgating mechanism even though what

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God did in history if you know anything about textual criticism is He promulgated the text of the

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New Testament in a wide and Promiscuous and fast fashion why because he knew what was coming from the

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Romans In other words, you had to get the manuscripts copied and get them out there

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There wasn't anything about being an infallible scribe or an infallible church or anything like that God got his word out there and preserved it that way and he really wasn't concerned about sophists who wanted to come up with silly little philosophical arguments that run smack dab into the

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You know do face plants on history Which is what this kind of stuff does now.

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I have to admit, you know, no all Respect given That particular that particular video.

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Hey, at least it was readable You know, it wasn't the it wasn't the best Quality, but at least it was it was readable.

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I had some more stuff to get to there's one other thing in the in the Twitter Folder for the DL that I'll have to get to at a point in time in the future, but we've

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Actually gone a little past our time. So I hope The wide variety of things we discussed today, you know was encouraging to you in one area or another

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We try to help you to think Biblically about a lot of things and that's what we tried to do today