Matt Slick Bible study covenant and dispensationalism

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Okay, no sandwiches for me tonight. All right. All right, so have you noticed the format's a little bit different last week. Well when I did the show here, we did it with a camera and a laptop about 12 feet away.

And now we're doing with my phone so we're just giving it a go to see how the sound goes and things like that and get some feedback and some stuff and I can read the text in here off the phone. It looks pretty good.

So what we're gonna do is pray we're gonna discuss the issue of it because you're an air-conditioning on even more because you're hot. No, it's it turn it on turn it on, you know, there's a lot of how hot in air especially hot air here.

That's what I'm talking. That's because it's. Yes. Yes, we have air conditioning issues here people. No, make it colder make it no make it warm, okay, so let's get going here. We're gonna be discussing covenant and dispensationalism.

I'm most absolutely definitely a covenantalist not a dispensationalist. We'll go through what different covenants there are and then I'm going to discuss dispensationalism and try and give it a fair shake.

Okay. So let's pray and I'll just jump right in. All right. Lord Jesus, thank you for today, and I thank you Lord for the technology. Hopefully that's fixed and continue to work today. Will you ask for your mercy or grace and as we go over the topics Lord just ask for?

The wisdom from my words and that I would represent both sides properly and that the result would be that we would Grow closer to you and that you'd be glorified in our efforts. So Lord Jesus, we give you thanks.

And we ask this in your precious name. Amen. All right so a covenant let's talk covenant the basics of what a covenant is a Covenant is a pact or an agreement between two or more parties. It's a contract.

It's an agreement. There's promissory aspects to it conditional aspects to them there are stipulations. Rewards punishments. There's all kinds of different covenants. We're going to get into several of them tonight.

So one of the most common covenants that we are aware of is a marriage covenant and we got a couple here who's married and There's married married married so Married. You're not married. Okay. Well if you're available anyway.

So a covenant is a pact or an agreement between two or more parties and covenants have signed. So here's a covenant sign. My wedding ring. There's a covenant sign and That's how God works biblically is he.

He establishes a covenant and that which is an abstraction and then what he does. Sorry distracted by the cat and then what he does. I see movements and then I start looking where movements are. Yeah, and so where was I?

Define the covenant if I'm the covenant. Signs rings so God work covenantally. He develops covenants in in all kinds of ways you want to use this. It's fine. Okay. All right. Kind of help you out. All right, we'll get we'll get into this.

So the word covenant in Latin is testamentum and so we had get the word test testament. We get Old Testament and New Testament. We have the Old Covenant the New Covenant. Basically, the Old Covenant will be discussing how many there are with the very nature of the covenant is but the covenant actually begins in The very mind in the heart of God you go to Hebrews 13 20.

It talks about the blood of the eternal covenant the eternal covenant. Now, what is that covenant? It doesn't exactly tell us what it is in the context. But what we see from other areas of Scripture is that it appears to be.

This is what I hold to is that the father elected? Chose we know over election and predestination too bad. You weren't here last week day. Election and predestination. So we went over that last week, but God elects he chooses people in Christ Ephesians 1 for where and the the father elects picks chooses the son is going to be the one who Redeems the elect and the Holy Spirit applies their redemptive work now.

There's more aspects in there. But those are the three basics that we can kind of work with so we had the father Choosing the son redeeming the chosen and the Holy Spirit applying the redemptive work to the chosen ones.

They believe. So this eternal covenant was something that was established from forever ago forever ago. Because of the nature of the Trinitarian Communion God has always existed and his knowledge has always existed and he has always known everything.

There's no place in time when his knowledge increases. Sorry open theists, but that's just a biblical position. You're you're wrong. And so God has always known and so God has always covenanted in the eternal covenant to elect redeem and apply the redemptive work of Christ and This is for the elect the universe exists for the elect.

Now a lot of people don't think that but if you think about it The reason the universe is existing is so that we could exist in it and there could be a redeemer. So that we can be with God forever. So God has drawn people out of eternity to have fellowship with for him with himself.

Forever. He already has fellowship with either Trinitarian Communion the non elect Will reap the benefits to some degree of the atoning sacrifice of Christ. The reason they do is just an incidental. The reason they do is because God for the sake of the elect does not destroy the tares.

So allow both the wheat and the tares. Matthew 13 love both the wheat and the tares to grow together at the time of the Harvest. I'll say to the Reapers first gather the tares to burn them and the wheat are gathered and put in the barn so we know that the tares and the wheat are simultaneous but the instructions of the landowner are do not tear up the Unbelievers, you might tear up the believers with them.

So the unbelievers their judgment is stayed is held back. Because for the sake of the elect. So this has happened all through history. This is the covenant promise. Well, the thing is that much of the aspect of the covenant is that the elect who are Chosen from the foundation of the world Ephesians 1 for aren't manifested in real time.

All the time, but I mean by that didn't come out Right is a there might be someone who gets saved tomorrow who's been elect, but we don't know that so they're not all manifesting that election right now.

And so what we're gonna find is that as time increases more and more people will discover who have been born who have been Elected or granted belief Lipton's 129 granted repentance second to be 225, etc all right, so Covenants have patterns and Would back when I was in seminary we had Meredith Klein Come in and teach and Meredith Klein was Impressive.

He was impressive. He was going through his Bible turning pages like this and reading, you know reading this is English Bible just going through when they go back to this he had these verses memorized.

He was just going except that he wasn't doing it in English he was doing it from Hebrew to English as fast as we could talk and he was going back and forth in the Hebrew Bible and When I discovered that I was like, okay, and then He taught himself some other languages like you go Riddick I don't know if those are real when he knew but that kind of guy, you know He's the one who basically discovered what's called the suzerain vassal treaty pattern of the third millennium BC third and fourth millennium BC and suzerain vassal treaty pattern is this a suzerain is a big king of vassals a smaller King.

And so the suzerain would make a treaty with the vassal now. There might be one suzerain and ten vassals and lesser Kings. So you might have a kingdom one major King and you might have a geographical area for example divided into four into a ten areas and there'll be a small a vassal a king small the king leading each one of those groups and so what would happen is that the the suzerain would make a treaty with the vassals and They would say well, this is who I am.

This is what I've done because a vast the suzerain would say my name is so-and-so I've done this I've delivered eight you know one eight wars and provided this and that and you know did all this stuff, but you know and Then he would say here's the stipulations that I'll provide Military protection for you if you provide, you know 10 of your food production to our house then and we'll store it and if anybody has any problems then we'll distribute it you know, it's just these kinds of things it was for the mutual benefit and Then each party in the covenant Agreement would get a copy of the coven of the government the document.

Why is this important? Because when you look at the Ten Commandments and I've got no I said this so many times before. The Ten Commandments are two copies of the same thing. You see it all the time. It's four and six and five and five forget that just toss that it's ten and ten.

And the reason it is because it's a suzerain vassal treaty pattern found in the Ten Commandments. Because it says Starts off. I'm the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of slavery.

This is who I am. This is what I've done and it is my you know, my name is Lord Yahweh stipulations are given you shall have no other gods before me. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain and then there are punishments involved for breaking the Commandments.

You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain for the land. For the Lord will not leave him unpunished who takes his name in vain. Honor your father and mother that your days may be prolonged so if you broke the the Agreement those punishment if you kept the agreement.

There was a rewards the suzerain vassal treaty pattern. This is what I'm absolutely convinced. This is what it was because that was the time and the place when the Ten Commandments were written. So, of course the come the covenant is between God and his people.

He gets a copy they get a copy ten and ten. That's it ten and ten because it symbolizes that the people had their copy. And God had his copy there to eat not equal parties. But dr. Sousa and vassal treaty pattern and so they had the copies.

That's what was going on. Now, where were those Ten Commandments copies kept? Are gonna covenant what was on top of the Ark of the Covenant the mercy seat with the cherubim now so. Then King David rose to his feet and said listen to me brethren and my people.

I Had intended to build a permanent home for the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord and for the footstool of our God. So I had made preparations to build it the Ark of the Covenant and the footstool. It looks like the mercy seat is the footstool.

Because of what he says here. This is first Chronicles 28 verse 2. Now we don't know that for sure, but it certainly seems to imply that In Isaiah 66 1 thus says the Lord heaven is my throne and earth is my footstool in Excuse me.

Psalm 132 7 and 8. Let us go into his dwelling place. That's the tap tap vernacular temple. Let us worship at his footstool. Arise, oh Lord to your resting place you and the Ark of your strength. So the footstool is More than one place related to the Ark the presence of the Ark so this is why a lot of theologians really do believe that the These are the mercy seat or the Ark of the Covenant is the footstool of God.

Not that the footstool is Something that is lowly because when a king would sit on his throne he did and the throne was elevated. Well, he didn't want his feet to dangle good. It kind of just doesn't look distinguished.

So they would give a footstool and it became a symbol of Subjection that you you know, my feet will be on you as my feet are on this the footstool, but it also is a Representation of the place of the throne where God himself is sitting.

So the presence of God is in the Holy of Holies. So there's a holy place in the Holy of Holies we should do a study on the Holy of Holies the holy place the temple tabernacle, but. And so as the high priest would go into the holy place.

They were separating the holy place from the Holy of Holies was the veil. You'd go around the veil and the holy place was the Ark of the Covenant. With a mercy seat and in the Ark was the ten commandments, right?

Two tablet two tablets ten commandments the bud of the Aaron's rod and a jar of manna. So we have the formation of life out of death. We have the manna, which is the habit word out of heaven. I'm skipping ahead what that basically is and the Ten Commandments is the law of God or reflection of the moral character of God.

So it symbolizes that the Commandments one copy is in the presence of man and another copies in the presence of God. That's where we're getting this Ten Commandments stuff. So people say seminary and they call it cemetery.

I hate that when I do that some are bad, but I learned this in Seminary and I've been so grateful. Because that one thing opened up a lot of other stuff about covenant. We're gonna get into some of this stuff of how God works and why he does this now.

God Institutes covenants he institutes covenants. He created the marriage covenant. He created the eternal covenant. Well, I can't say he created it because if you really think about it, it always was that way.

So it couldn't come into existence, you know, we get to logical priority issues. We're not gonna get out of all that. All right. So covenant is how God first decided to deal with man with mankind the eternal covenant.

He was 1320 and The conditions of the eternal covenant. I'm just gonna some stuff later. Okay, I'm gonna get ahead. There's a lot here. There are two basic types of covenants conditional and unconditional.

Unconditional is where it doesn't matter what the responding party does or does not do. So In a marriage covenant, it's it's kind of interesting is both conditional and unconditional. Because you know, my wife's right there and it doesn't matter how nice she is or how not nice she is I'm to love her on that's there's not conditioned on how she is and vice versa but on the other hand our covenant is dissolved when one of us dies and.

So it's both conditional and unconditional. So an unconditional covenant has aspects where God says I will never leave you or forsake you it's not conditioned on our behavior. He was ten five. I think it is.

So he's promised to be with us and he will never leave us. He'll never forsake us. Period it's part of the eternal covenant, which is another reason eternal security is true. Okay? How many people are in the room?

Okay, so a conditional covenant. It does depend upon the faithfulness of the both parties. So example, you know as if when one of us dies then the covenants broken you know as soon as one of us dies the other one's no longer married period single and so.

There are various ones in the Old Testament. Now. You may be familiar with the one where I forget where it was. Where God had an animal? Dissected and. Then the pillar of cloud went through between those two halves.

You know why that was. Now there's shedding of blood which is interesting but he was saying this let it be done to me if I break the covenant. Okay, the blood Signifies the ratification of a covenant you go to Hebrews 9 15 through 16.

For the ratification is when the death of the testator occurs and you also go to Hebrews 8 7 8 13. I think it is our covenant is ratified without the shedding of blood. There is no real covenant and In this sense what we're talking about here.

Let me tell you we can go over this and There's a lot more that we can get into there. This is a deep deep topic. So the question that becomes how many covenants are there? I don't know. You studied a lot of theology.

How many do you think there are? At least five. Anybody how many do you think there are? That's a good question, I don't know. Nick, how many do you think there are? 53 probably might be there might be that many in the Bible recorded.

But Major was at least five. Some say There's three covenants some say there's two something there's only one. The reason they do this is because of how you look at what a covenant is. So for example, the eternal covenant is one covenant, but all other covenants are the result of that one covenant.

So in that sense we'd say well There's really only one real covenant and the other ones manifest out of that. Then there's a covenant of grace and the covenant of works. We'll get into that well, then we consider two main covenants or We can say inside the covenant of grace.

There's certain covenantal aspects like the baptismal covenant or the which enters you into that new covenant and then the communion elements. Which is the participation of the continuation of the covenant?

So how many covenants are there? Yes. That's a good question. I lean towards one covenant. But sometimes two. Then go back to one and then I go wait a minute could be seven. But no, I think it's one and so what I'm doing is just admitting.

It's not that precise and some very brilliant theologians have argued but as I always say it always comes down to what your definitions are if you More precisely you define something than the better off you are in.

Saying how many there are and so all our answers here are basically correct because we have not Really defined real precisely what it really is in all kinds of situations or to get it. So the basic definition of a covenant is a pact or an agreement between two or more parties.

But it advanced that a little bit a pact or an agreement with stipulations. Rewards and punishments generally, but not all have Punishments because if it's unconditional see. Well, then which covenant we can Definition we're gonna go with and this you can see why go away.

Okay, so if it's one covenant we defined it as unconditional. Then there's only one. If it's you define covenant with conditional aspects, then we could say there's more than one. Okay. All right. So let's talk about the eternal covenant.

The father is all my notes. Okay on just covenant. The father required of the son that he should atone for the sins of those whom the father had given him first. John 2 2 right. John 6 39 and. That he would do what Adam failed to do by keeping the law.

Adam failed to keep the law and Jesus did keep the law now. How many Adams are there? To the first Adam and the last Adam first one is 15 46. I think it is the last Adam. Jesus is called the last Adam now.

That's interesting because we've already talked about the issue of federal headship before federal headship is where the male represents a descendants so in Christ. All All live in. I know in Adam all die in Christ all shall be made alive first Corinthians 15 22.

So in Adam in Adam is a sign of federal headship that everybody was in him. Represented by him and then there's a group represented by Jesus. We called in him. Were you going outside? Something I said.

My wife's going outside. What is it? What's wrong? What what? Oh, okay. She goes man so. What's gonna get wet. What's gonna good what's gonna get wet. The fire. Okay, don't get the fire get wet. I'm so asking for trouble.

What do you guys leave all right. Now so oh that that's it's a distraction. Okay. We'll wait. All right. Okay, go ahead. Right month spin open sin month.

But the Covenant sign right now Dave was not.

We'll get. We'll get to that. We're gonna get to the different covenants. We're gonna get to that. We'll talk about it the Noahic Covenant. Okay, we'll do that because it There's no way a covenant month.

That's it. I like that. Oh. Okay, I'm gonna get sidetracked. That's good question. So the requirements of the eternal covenant is that the word Would become man that he'd place himself under the law Galatians 4 4 and that after accomplishing forgiveness of sins and eternal life.

He'd apply that to the elect the Holy Spirit would be involved in there. All right. So this is the basic idea of that. Then we're going to have manifestations of the covenant in different forms different times now.

We're gonna get to what's called the Adamic Covenant, which is also called the Covenant of works the Covenant between God and Adam where Adam and Eve Was to maintain his right position with God via works and obedience to God's command.

So he was to keep his position with God by his works. Could he you know in a sense? Yes in a sense. No, if he'd have kept all the commandments and just done what he's supposed to do. Like not eat don't one just don't eat that tree.

That's it. Would he have continued to live forever if he had never eaten that tree? Yeah. Okay. I don't know how long you guys would have been. I'd have been up there. What's that tree for? You know? And the covenant command was to multiply and subdue the earth.

Matthew Genesis 128 and The one the conditions was don't eat the tree the knowledge of good and evil Genesis 2 27 and if you do you'll die stipulations, okay and. But the word covenant is not used there at all.

It's not used there, but as we can see it is it's a covenant and the covenant sign is the tree. Okay, it's what represents and. Now We need to bring up the idea that in a lot of covenants, you can negotiate the terms and that before you come to an agreement and.

So when I performed you guys marriage ceremony. We met beforehand it went over the covenant documents and the covenant requirements and what these things met meant and why it was so Serious and things like that and when we got married The pastor gave us a copy of the covenant promises and in there was a promise that the wife would obey her husband and.

And So I wish you'd kept it in but I took it out. But anyway, so what I did was I asked him to to remove that and the reason was what's that? She's going. Yes it was my idea and the reason was because I take I think I take it so seriously my commitment to God and.

And my wife has a great commitment to the Lord as well. And if she had made a promise to obey me, what if I said to do something wrong, right? Whatever. She didn't do it then. She'd be in sin. And so I.

That was a way of protecting, you know, I don't want that so we've negotiated the contract a little bit now. I wish I'd have said some other stuff in there. But hindsight what's that. She's a good sandwich maker.

She's a good sandwich maker. She's a good cook and I will probably put in her more smooching. You know, there's some smooching stuff is like smooches, you know on morning smooch. Oh, she's going like this now.

She's hiding herself, but I put the camera around and show maybe I should do that here. Yes, I should do this. Yeah. There it is. There she is. Say hi, hon. There she is. Okay. So there she is. Okay, I had to show everybody.

It's my wife. All right. He's my favorite wife also. All right now. She's the only one I got that's right. So the covenant sign was a tree of life and in it we see that Adam represented all people. Now this is I'm going to say something here that I think is really important to understand.

The covenant obligation was to Adam. You are to multiply you're to fulfill the requirement of subduing the earth. Now that subduing of the earth is very important. It is to be done in a godly way under the guidance of God.

It's not being done today very much at all plastics trash things all over the place. Raping and pillaging the land. It's like when in our country here when the Buffalo were basically annihilated they shoot him for fun.

You know, this is ungodliness. Now here's a question. Does this covenant requirement? Does it? Does it include? Everybody in Adam, so does it include the unbelievers as well as the believers as an obligation to fulfill this covenant?

Don't think about. Now I'll give you some more information in Adam. I'll die. Right first goodness 1522. Romans 5 18 says through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men. So did Adam represent everybody?

Yes, he did. So Does the obligation For of the Adamic responsibility is it passed down to the progeny to the descendants? Yes. So the unbelievers have the moral obligation to treat the earth. Well. It's just one of the aspects of the covenant.

There's more because of faithfulness. There's you know, there's the issue of one husband one man one woman's that are breaking that in pride month and Divorce is so readily available. They're breaking the covenant and they are under the responsibility of The Adamic Covenant now they may say well, we don't like that and I've had atheists they don't like that kind of stuff and I just say so.

Okay, you don't like it. I don't like it when I stub my toe. It's just a reality. Well, I don't accept it. Well, you don't have to accept it. You're gonna face God on the day of judgment. I don't believe in God you will when you face him.

You know, I just keep talking like that. It's all true and I say to say to them a theological description for your position is for you is your host. And All right. So the covenant of grace or the covenant of redemption the covenant between God and the elect is Based entirely on God's grace and not man's effort or will now that's important.

Some people would say that the covenant of grace is dependent upon our ability to keep that covenant in order to stay saved to that. I say malarkey no, if our Covenant faithfulness is what was required for us to maintain our salvation.

It's going to be gone it's gonna be gone very quickly very quickly. Okay, especially for Dave because Dave would be gone. He'd be over and he'd. He'd when Dave you missed your opportunity. He said when you blew it you'd come over and find me to go.

Oh, you were already here Matt. Yeah, that's true. So it's between the the Lord God and the elect. Now a lot of people don't like the idea of God only dying for the elect. But that's what Colossians 2 14 says and Jesus says he leaves it lays his life down for the sheep and John 10 It says you're not my sheep.

If you pay for its debt the debt doesn't exist anymore. He paid for a sin debt. So this is an unconditional. It's conditional but it's unconditional. It's conditioned on the work of Christ not on our faithfulness.

But so you can see it's kind of conditional non-conditional as far as us goes. It's not conditioned because Jesus says, you know, John 10 27 28 my sheep hear my voice. I give eternal life to them and they shall never perish.

Notice he says I give eternal life to them and they shall never perish in John 3 16. It says God's love the world to give his only begotten Son that whoever would believe in him would have. What have everlasting life never perish.

Or it says never perish but have everlasting life forget which order is now but? Never eternal life and never perishing are coupled. This is because all that the father is given to the son. The son will not lose.

John 6 37 through 40. This is because in the eternal covenant the father gave the elect to the son and the son came to redeem them and Jesus Can't fail to fulfill the covenant requirements in the inter-trinitarian communion.

Which ultimately means that when people say you can lose your salvation. They're saying that Jesus failed to keep the covenant bounds. Which would men mean that he sinned furthermore. It would mean that those who teach you could lose your salvation.

You got to keep it by how good you are. No, you don't you keep it by by believing. Well, do you choose to believe? Yes. Well, then take credit for your own believing and I've asked people that you take credit for your own believing.

Of course I do. I don't even take credit for my own believing. There's nothing good in me. Jesus is the one who lives in me. He's the one who awakened my heart my mind. He's when he granted that I believe Philippians 129.

That's it. So I believe because of what God has done for me and that's it. So I am eternally secure in Christ. Can I go out and sin all I want? Yes, I can. But I'm regenerate. John 3 3 through 5 2nd Corinthians 5 17 5 17 5 7 5 21 were made new creatures in Christ.

Take me to 517 made new creatures. So I'm changed. I don't want to go out and and sin. I war against all this because The regenerative work of God is concomitant with salvation. Which then means that we are saved we're in the camp of Christ and we're gonna war against our sin.

That's the manifestation of redemptive work of God in us because of the covenant of grace where he's made up between the us and the elect. I mean God in the elect and The conditions of the salvation are faith in Christ.

Period. That's it. There's no condition in which you lose your salvation. Faith in Christ Romans 5 1 having therefore been justified by faith. And who's the mediator of the New Covenant? Barely hear that word Christ very good.

I Got to work on them. I get it. Okay, and the Covenant sign of the New Covenant is The cross Communion which represents the cross. And I think baptism is the means by which we entered into that covenant the way the circumcised were entered into the Abrahamic Covenant and once you're in the Covenant you had certain signs you were to participate inside of that Covenant one of them was Participating the Passover.

Well, it's a lot. My position is that the covenant about the sign of baptism it enters you into a covenant relationship, which why it could be for children and You participate in the covenant boundaries later on you get older and stuff like that.

That's been good expand that more some other time. All right, the eternal covenant is the model for the covenant of grace. If there was no eternal covenant between the father and the son there could be no covenant of grace between God and man.

And the elect all right. So this is why when I study this I go yeah, there's really one main covenant the covenant of the eternal covenant and That's where it all began. But some definitions of those covenants underneath it don't exactly fit each other.

So the differentiation but they're there under the umbrella of the big one. So I hold to the umbrella idea of the covenant of the eternal covenant and then I kind of lean towards covenant of grace a covenant of works to covenants and then you could get into variables in there, but then if you just go to like we already had the Adamic Covenant and we've already talked about the Eternal Covenant, that's two and now we've talked about The covenant of grace, which is the covenant with the elect.

There's three the covenant the Adamic Covenant already got that. That's we have three so far. Let's get into the covenant of Noah. The Noahic Covenant. It was a promise of God to Noah to never again destroy the world with water.

With water will he destroy the world again? Yes, he will second Peter three nine and ten, but he's not gonna do it with water and He talks about this covenant in Genesis nine so the covenant sign. Why I didn't ask you what's the sign of the eternal covenant cross?

Its future when it was ratified. Okay, so The covenant sign of Noah was the rainbow and the rainbows interesting. It's formed out of water. Reflection of light and water light and water light, you know, God is light through that water.

It's interesting stuff, but don't take it too far. So what we have now is We have unbelievers who mock The truth of God. They use the rainbow flag as a sign of pride and Yet It ultimately is a sign of their own destruction.

If we were to take time out and take a tangent where we went to Hebrews Romans 1 starting at verse 18 the wrath of God is being revealed against all ungodliness of heaven. In verse 26 to 28 they exchanged the The function of the woman for the function of the man and you know, it talks about this.

I don't have it memorized and it clearly talks about homosexuality and the perversion associated with that. So homosexuality is a perversion it is unrighteous it is aberrant sexual behavior. It is a sin and they need to repent of it.

It doesn't mean we hate them. It doesn't mean that we want to damage them or hurt them, but it does mean that they need to repent of this great sin. It's one of the few sins in the scriptures. I think it's only what I'm even aware of where when you commit it Not just once but you're in it.

God gives you over to it and that's the judgment. That is the judgment. He gives you over to the depravity of your heart in your mind to a reprobate mind. He gives it. Oh gives you over to it. So they believe the lie and then the last verse says they go promoting that lie.

So now what we have in the world is a false governmental and social system that is Has done what Isaiah 520 warns us about beware of those who say good is evil and evil is good. This is exactly what's happened.

And our country now as an official stat state status of the government is to promote homosexuality and we know it because when Obama was in hit a rainbow flag on the White House the rainbow colors and which I considered an abomination and.

And If you stood against that you're now the one who's evil. You're the one who's the bigot. You're the one who's in Incompetent morally you're the one who's got the problem when this shift occurs then The wicked will persecute the righteous.