September 24, 2020 Show with Dr. Jeffrey C. Waddington on “A New Series on the Book of Romans” (Part 3)

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This is Chris Arnzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, wishing you all a happy Thursday on this

24th day of September 2020, and I'm thrilled to have back one of my favorite

returning guests, Dr. Jeffrey C. Waddington, pastor of Faith Orthodox

Presbyterian Church of Fawn Grove, Pennsylvania, author, conference speaker, vice president of the

Board of Directors for the Reformed Forum, and articles editor for the Confessional

Presbyterian Journal.

And today he is entering into part three of our new series on the Book of Romans, and it's my

honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Dr. Jeffrey C. Waddington.

Oh, well, thank you for having me back on.

I get run out of town on the rail, so it's

my privilege to be with you, Chris.

Amen.

And for our listeners who have not yet heard you, tell our listeners about the

Faith Orthodox Presbyterian Church of Fawn Grove, Pennsylvania.

Sure.

The Orthodox Presbyterian Church on

the border at E

.D.

Church

in

that

sense

was

a

beautiful

goddess

group,

but

without

being

years

ahead.

I

do

appreciate that very much.

And for anyone who is interested in finding more about Faith.

Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Fawn Grove, Pennsylvania, go to faithopc .net, faithopc

.net.

Now also tell us about the Reformed Forum for which you are vice president of the

Board of Directors.

I think I could be wrong, but when I speak to people who are

Reformed and I happen to mention you for some reason or another, the Reformed

Forum seems to be the place where most of my friends and brethren

from different Reformed circles, whether they be Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist, most of them will say,

oh, yes, from the Reformed Forum.

That seems to be the place where most of my friends and acquaintances are

familiar with you.

Yes, the Reformed Forum basically grew out of

conversations

on

these conversations

in 2008.

So

since

then,

you

don't

get

a

degree

when

we don't,

in 45

minutes,

our groups

that...

Man, in fact, you just reminded me by some things that you were saying, you reminded me on

how we came to meet.

I remember getting, I believe it was an email from you saying to me,

I have listened to your program since you first launched in 2005, and

I know that you've just moved into Pennsylvania.

Let's have lunch.

And that's how we first met.

That was back in 2015.

Yeah, that's right.

You're a

great encouragement.

We have another one, by the way.

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And we're going to be doing our theme on, God

willing, on parenting, a generation influenced by the

woke movement in the wake of the pandemic.

So that will be our theme, God willing, and it will be held here in

Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

If anybody listening wants to attend that, it is for men and ministry only.

And I include in that invitation, deacons and parachurch leaders.

So, any kind of a leadership position that you have in your church?

I was going to say, I can

attest to the

value.

I salute you in doing that, brother.

Yes, and all credit goes first and foremost to God, obviously, but

secondly, to my beloved, precious late wife, Julie.

It was her idea to have these luncheons.

And we have been having them, other than the four -year

hiatus, I went off the air after her death.

We have been having them all the way from the early

90s to 2011.

And then we relaunched them in 2015 when I

relaunched the radio program and moved to Pennsylvania.

And they are continued in the memory

and in tribute to my precious late wife.

Oh, I forgot to mention your website for Reform Forum.

If anybody wants to learn more about Reform Forum, go to reformforum .org, reformforum .org.

And last but not least, tell our listeners about.

The Confessional Presbyterian Journal.

Sure, that is a

theological journal

that we all publicate.

And of

course,

why

don't

you tell our

listeners

who

are

unfamiliar

with

the

late.

Greg Bonson.

By the way, am I appropriately using the adjective, the late, when he has been in heaven.

For quite a long time now?

Well, I use the expression, but yes, he is with the Lord.

Dr. Bonson, who

was

also

a

person,

he

passed

away

and

his came out.

Yes, and

Dr.

James

R. White.

Yes, James White.

Dr. White actually specifically, very frequently in his public

events, whether they be debates or sermons, he

frequently pays tribute to Dr. Bonson as being an

apologetic hero of his, upon whom he bases much of his approach to

apologetics.

Yeah, it's amazing,.

1985.

The atheist.

Yeah, the

atheist, the high school

text, not while we might

say before,

he's with the Lord, he's in heaven, and yet.

And if you

could repeat any kind of information where people can learn more about

the Bonson Project.

Yeah, I believe that the Bonson Project.

I do.

Plan on, by the way, at the request of Bill Shishko and others involved in the Bonson Project,

I intend to do, God willing, even a week -long tribute

on this show featuring different guests for the Bonson

Project and in tribute to Dr. Bonson, because obviously I know that this

this cause involves fundraising,

desperately needed, urgently needed fundraising because of the fact that you're trying to purchase the rights

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By the way, I just found out that the Bonson Project website is bonsonproject

.com.

Yes, dot com.

And then there.

Is no the in the URL, even though there is

a name,

bonsonproject .com.

Yes, and I, every

time.

Somebody mentions him, I get so furious at myself because I had the rare

privilege of interviewing Dr. Bonson in the study of Steve Schlissel in Brooklyn, New

York, when Dr. Bonson was preaching there for a special,

I believe it was a weekend of services, if I'm not mistaken, but I remember clearly him preaching on the Ascension of Christ,

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of Christ.

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you to have some private time with Dr. Bonson with the portable recorder and interview him.

So I did that.

I lost the tape, just like I lost my keys today,

and I would lose my brain.

I still don't know where my keys are.

Thankfully I had a second set.

But anyway, I am getting to be more and more forgetful as the

days go by.

But join the club, brother, that's all I can say.

And going back to the Confessional Presbyterian, for those of you who are listeners who want to find out more about that,

cpjournal .com, cp for Confessional Presbyterian, journal .com,

cpjournal .com.

Well now we are entering into our third discussion on the Book of

Romans, and if I'm not mistaken, we are picking up.

In the first chapter of Romans,

in verse 18.

Remember

that for introduction, he

wrote

this

perfect, the

truth

known about

God, things that

have been

made,

foolish

hearts were darkened,

the immortal

God, God

for, and

God gave

vision, natural relations for those

that are likewise gave

up now

to

practice,

which

will

highlight

the, in

fact,

you

just

said,

you

just hit the.

Nail on the head, and I have a feeling you will agree with me.

The very largest, most significant problem with

the modern evangelical church today, modern preaching, modern publishing,

is that what you just described is completely absent from the

communication of the alleged communication of the Gospel from modern pulpits and modern

publishing houses.

They only want to give the pretty, beautiful side of

at least what they think is a side of the Gospel and of Jesus Christ, and yet they don't even

seem to realize that they're diminishing the beauty of the Gospel and the awesomeness and

the amazingness, if that's a word, the amazing quality of the Gospel.

They're ripping the Gospel of those things by only trying to give the

lighter side and by removing the black, the dark, gloomy,.

Horrifying backdrop that you just mentioned.

That's the fact of the matter.

Refer to what we're talking

about

is in the

background.

Now, you

know, we

might get into

why God is

in answer come because we

are fine.

Martin of

Eden is

the

like

him.

I'm

going

to actually

preach

the way

it's even a

Gospel at all.

Galatians

says, if anyone

brings

to you a

Gospel other than

the one

that

I have.

Well,

this

is

where we

have to

pick up where

you left off,

because we have to.

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We are entering into the third part of our new series on the Book of Romans.

If you have a question for Dr. Waddington, our email address is chrisarnson at

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If you live outside the USA and only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter, and if you could pick up where you left off there,

brother, before the break.

Oh,

absolutely.

And

we will

speak

and

we

will

reveal

their

sin.

God

is

uncomfortable

with it,

against

all

revelation,

that

God

is

ungodly.

So

that

tells

us

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the Reformed Forum.

We are entering, or we have entered, I should say, into our third program

as Dr. Waddington seeks to exegete the Book of Romans.

And before we return to that discussion, I just have a couple of announcements to make,

very important ones.

Tomorrow, a mutual friend of Dr. Waddington and mine,

Pastor Bill Shishko, who pastors The Haven, an Orthodox Presbyterian

Church in Bohemia, Long Island, New York.

They may be returning to Deer Park, Long Island, but I know that they are,

at least temporarily, meeting at the building of the Orthodox

Presbyterian Church of Bohemia, which was actually a church plant that

Pastor Bill was very much involved in quite a while ago, a church plant sent out

by the Orthodox Presbyterian Church of Franklin Square, Long Island.

And Pastor Mike Plogman pastors the OPC in Bohemia, but Bill Shishko is pastoring The

Haven OPC congregation, now meeting in Bohemia at the OPC

church building.

Pastor Bill is going to be joined by Jennifer Michelle Greenberg,

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I'm sorry, the title of the book is Not Forsaken, not what I just mentioned before, Not Taken for

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As I've already mentioned, we are conducting our third program on the book of Romans.

Dr. Waddington intends to be our guest once or twice a month to

provide exegesis for us on this glorious book of the Bible that has been used

mightily of God over the centuries to bring countless millions

to salvation and to bring reformation to the church as

well as it is a primary book that influenced Martin Luther to repent of

and abandon the heresies he had embraced of the church of Rome as an

Augustinian monk and which led to the protestant reformation and which led to

millions of churches globally over the centuries carrying on

the true gospel with them.

And so if you have a question on

the email, chrisarnson at gmail .com.

So if you want to pick up right where you left off before the.

Break.

Sure.

So we were talking about the fact that God has made himself known to all.

There

are

no

exceptions

received

ever.

So the

invisible

attributes,

if

they

live up

to

that

light and

gone

in writing

in this

triune

nature

of salvation

with

the revelation,

it's what

the

person receiving and

receiving

in

rap

21 for, although

they

knew

God failure

to

speak

for

yourself,

you

need

to

do

what

has

God

resembling

mortal

man

there,

the

drugs and

that

are

the

religious

God

he

is and

becoming

tended

and

receiving

in

themselves.

Sexuality

is

not

to

say

updated

elsewhere.

He says,

beginning

telling

us

that

they

did

not

see from

unrighteous

or the

boat

full

and veterans of evil.

In

fact, we

have to get

to our final break, but I will read a question to you.

Okay.

Uh, from a listener.

In fact, if you could, I'm echoing back to me.

I don't know if you could turn off whatever you have.

That's playing my own voice there.

Um, we have a listener.

Uh, Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County, Long Island, and

Ronald in Eastern Suffolk County, Long Island says that the hermeneutics

that most evangelical and liberal churches use

to give legitimacy to the ordination of women, in my experience, is the most important thing.

My experience with the folks that I know in either feminist

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cave in and embrace homosexuality and other things.

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And Jeff Waddington, as you may remember, we received a listener question before the break

from Ronald in eastern Suffolk County who wants to know if the hermeneutic used

to legitimize the ordination of women will always

lead to the acceptance of homosexuality and other depravity.

Well, yes,

in

fact, you

are a

former leader in the Salvation Army, which has women.

In leadership.

Has that denomination ever reached the extreme of having

a soft view of homosexuality.

Or embracing it in any

way?

At least the last, although there have been times where they look

like

you might,

sexuality, but then we got

to this

end, the

problem

isn't...

And of course we do know of denominations, even though we would

vociferously and adamantly oppose their view of the ordination of women

and their egalitarian understanding of leadership.

At the same time, there are some denominations, they're probably a minority, but there are some that

come from the holiness Pentecostal movement, the Wesleyan holiness movement, that

still to this day have women in leadership and yet in every other way are.

Conservative, so...

Yeah, that's correct.

It's not

that I called

it a hat.

Well, now we'd like...

Think about it that way.

Yeah, well, now I'd like you to summarize what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our

listeners in regard to what we have.

Had you exegete today.

Okay, well, I never want to conclude,

because

the Father sent

us

that

there

is... who are

not...

Continue to trust

in Christ, continue to

grow in your love for Him, to grow in your

desire to please Him.

The end of the discussion...

and you

notice

what he

says, he says, we

know that we...

Well, thank you so much, Dr. Waddington, for always proving to be a

very capable guest and a fascinating guest, and a guest that I

can have confidence is sharing the Word of God with truth

to our listeners, and I look forward to our next time to continue in your Exegesis of

Romans, the Book of Romans, and we'll still be in Chapter 1 at

this point.

And I want to remind our listeners of the various ways you can find

out about Dr. Waddington's ministry.

You can go, first of all, to the church website, faithopc .net, faithopc .net, that

is the website for Faith Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Fawn Grove, Pennsylvania.

You can also go to reformedforum .org, reformedforum .org.

You can go to cpjournal .com, and that stands for Confessional Presbyterian CpJournal

.com.

And last but not least, find out more about the Bonson Project that Dr. Waddington is helping to

spearhead, a very important project to make the works of the late Greg

Bonson, a great hero to many, make his works available for free to the

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So, the Bonson Project website is bonsonproject .com,

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Thank you so much, Dr. Waddington.

And remember, folks, we are going to have Bill Shishko of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, known

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He's going to be joined by author Jennifer Greenberg tomorrow to discuss, help, there

is domestic violence in my church, and get your questions ready for both Pastor Bill

Shishko and Jennifer Greenberg.

And as I always like to remind you at the end of this program, I hope that you all never forget

for the rest of your lives, and that you always remember that Jesus Christ is a far greater

Savior than you are a sinner.