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Well greetings welcome to the dividing line we are back here in the regular old dividing line studio that we've been in since 2006 and So first time or it says first time in a month since we've been in this studio

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That's certainly I think the longest we've ever not been in this particular room at least once during that period of time

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Not that we weren't Doing our duty. We've been quite diligent.

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I think in doing our duty and doing as many programs as we could as we could fit into the traveling schedule

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I To be honest with you given the direction I came home From Idaho, I'm not sure how

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I could have routed myself any better there there just isn't a lot between Boise and Las Vegas other than Reno and And There that those are desolate desolate stretches

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It is very very easy to understand why people put the aliens out there

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And that's what that one was that one movie where the the all the atomic bombs and created all these

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Mutant things that come up out of the earth and eat you and stuff I Could see that.

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I Was worried that if I had a flat and I had to step off of the road that some creature was gonna

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Because there's nothing else out there man. There is one huge lake. I don't know what that one

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I mean, it's it's as big as the Sea of Galilee just about and It's right near an army base, it's the world's largest ammo depot

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All I know is that when the zombie apocalypse hits the the smart people are heading there because if you want if you want ammo that's where you're gonna that's where you're gonna find it just miles and miles of of depots with ammo

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Yeah nowhere to find it. But anyway, so made for long trips at the end of end of the day

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So I'm I'm actually I didn't tell you this I'm trying a different program for the next run just to compare them and this one

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I can put in how far I want to go and it draws a circle on the map and stuff like that and and It's got it's called our

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RV life. I think and it's got like every RV park on the planet marked I mean, it's it's a it's so, you know exactly what to do.

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So anyway, which speaking of which Just last night

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I was talking to a family that visited from Atlanta well, actually from outside of Atlanta, but they flew from Atlanta and They're probably not watching today because they went up to the

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Grand Canyon which is much more interesting to look at than me I can assure you of that. I Would much rather be at the

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Grand Canyon too. But anyway Asked if the father of the family was going to be going to g3 and Discovered only a few days ago that the man behind the

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Behind the controls is going to g3 too. I had no idea. I just figured we hadn't talked about it, but I just figured this year wasn't gonna happen and so Evidently, we're gonna have a booth and People's and everything, huh?

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Wow, so for those of you who were maybe not going to g3 because rich wasn't gonna be there now you need to go to g3 because rich will be there and So because most people come up to the booth to meet rich.

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They're asking for croissant recipes and and stuff like that, so so the so the

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The doctor in life guys are gonna be there, you know, I'd put this in but I think it's gonna hurt

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Yeah, the doctor in life guys are gonna be there. They're gonna be taking care of the booth and they're gonna bring swag Oh, they're gonna have stuff for sale and all kinds of other fun stuff

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So and there's even gonna be you know The backdrop that we put up behind the booth and all that brand new one. Oh, oh, so Josh is already designed it

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It's there you go sent in so plans within plans. Well, I had no idea and so That means

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I I have to make my road trip work or because on Friday at g3

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I've been graduated up. I've been graduated out of the morning Group that those the

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C level speakers. I've graduated the B level speakers, which are in the afternoon And so it's gonna be me

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Vodi and Paul washer, that's The three and three in a row on Friday afternoon, so I'm I'm feeling the pressure now because When you're followed up by Vodi Balcom and and Paul washer you better you better come up with something better swing hard Yeah, swing away

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Merrill So I'm gonna swing away as as best

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I can so Anyway, I'm putting together the trip going out there and coming back and I've gotten a connection

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And I'm hoping to hoping this is gonna work out haven't confirmed this yet but there is a connection down in the

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Niceville area of Florida Because remember we have some we have a

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King James only fellow down there by name of Stouffer Who back

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I think in 2006 or so? Had Launched a few salvos our direction.

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We found out then that he liked he likes to talk a big talk But doesn't want to don't want back anything up. He won't won't debate won't defend what he says and So he started doing it again doing a whole series on How he forced me to change my book and all the rest of stuff and it's just bogus as the day is long

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It would never survive cross -examination. It would be another Steve Tassi debate. It really would be and So I sent emails

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I've I've I called while on the road I I called the church office and gave him my phone number.

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Let's let's arrange a bait. I'll only be four hours away Let's let's do it Nothing silence

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Do not talk to the idolaters So So I'd assume that whole area since it's not far from Pensacola is pretty soaked in King James only ism

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The reality is if if you know anything about argumentation consistency of argumentation

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Church history and Bible translation you have nothing to fear from King James only folks.

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Okay, so I'm hoping that we're gonna be able to go down there into that area and do a nice positive

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Presentation a new testament reliability because you know King James only us. They're only a small percentage of population so what you want to do is you want to prepare people to really do the work of ministry and then either as an addendum or even a second evening do something in King James only ism and just set the record straight prepare people to as Best they can because there's there's

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King James only ism. That's based upon preference. There's King James only ism that's based upon ignorance and there's cultic

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King James only ism and Cultic King James only ism is is ugly which reminds me

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I Should have I was having a few that's interesting

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Hmm strange My accordance setup is is a little confused there for saying anyway

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Let me see if I can pull this up real quick, I apologize a new window here

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There was a debate I want to see if I can find the debate Tomorrow Just doesn't want to come up.

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It's not Cooperating so, you know, things are bad when you have to have to actually type

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YouTube KJV only debate see if it comes up it did yay

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If you just put in KJV only debate right now on YouTube the very first Debate that pops up interestingly enough.

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The second one is mine and it's the Mount impassable debate from Revelation TV It comes up on YouTube From 10 years ago, but if you just put in KJV only debate one week ago

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This one's posted by Bible missionary Baptist Church but There was a debate between a guy named

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Mitch can up or can up can up Sorry, I'd never heard him before never heard of him before.

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I've I Don't really follow independent fundamentalist

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Baptist King James only guys around He was something else but he debated

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Nathan Cravat And I think

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I have I have a feeling there's some German somewhere back there Nathan because Cravat Is a tie

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Wouldn't be spelled the same way but anyway, um Nathan is one of those guys who's blessed to look like he's about 15 years younger than he is

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Which is totally unfair Especially for those of us started losing our hair at 25, I just think that we don't really like you people but anyway

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Nathan went into the lion's den okay, this was a clearly a extremely

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Biased group. I don't know if he had anybody there on his side. I I did hear about two people clapping at his presentations like You know like that But when when when when brother

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Mitch was speaking it was your There there is

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God there. Hey Hey, it doesn't matter what he said. He goes said Blue suede shoes.

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Hey, man it's just it is We laugh but it's it's real and it's extremely distracting and He said so many

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Completely fallacious things stuff that anyone who knows history realizes he was making it up on the fly or He was making connections between stuff that again any serious historian goes

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Why are you smoking? and Hey It's just constant

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It's hard to listen to because of that if if that if you find that off -putting Which most of us do especially because it's it's mindless

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There's no there's no literally, he could have said anything and There's it's just this mindless

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It's it's as bad as the Allah who Akbar's in The debates

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I've done with certain Muslim folks where the young guys and Allah Akbar Allah Akbar doesn't matter what the guy said

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My pencil is green Allah Akbar, you know, it's it's that kind of Mindless agreement going on within a within a debate situation.

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Anyways, there were some incredible things said There were incredible connections made during the course of this debate and I was driving while listening to it and I just couldn't finish and I got about two and a half hours in and had gotten into the audience questions and I Think it was the communal celebration of ignorance

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That just eventually you just go. Oh, I've got to do something else. It's just this is just It's a black hole of rationality

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But so I've asked brother Nathan to join us tomorrow I I want to talk to the man who went into the lion's den

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Talk to the man who can get King James only people to actually debate him, which I seemingly can't sense

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About ten years ago. I think about the last but the last debate was that one in London and after that it's sort of like Yeah, no

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Relax, we didn't get your email. You called us. No, really We've been having problems with our email must be our spam filter, right?

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Okay So tomorrow on the program at five o 'clock Eastern Daylight Time The man who kept his cool in the midst of all the habit habit stuff

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Is going to join us and we'll find out how do you keep your cool in the midst of? When you're when your opponent has just turned history on its head

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And he did say that I appreciate Nathan just came straight out says It's the sum of the stuff the brother

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Mitch says is Just so far from the truth. That's truly concerning That's one way of putting it truly concerning very very very very much.

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So yeah So yeah there there there you go. That's I just realized we've been out of this room so long that the calendar is on July That's that's true, yeah, that's that's wild so tomorrow

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Nathan brother Nathan will be with us to talk about if you want to take a get a feel of the debate

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Just put in KJV only space only space debate.

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The first one comes up and you'll be able to listen to portions of that and compare it to the debate

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I did With on Revelation TV and you'll see a lot of similarities.

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Let's let's put it that way between the two Okay, so that's tomorrow and I invite you to be with us at that particular

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Point in time Before I Get into the main topic today

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I've already briefly thanked The many people that made it possible for us to do the recent road trip from which we have learned a great deal of things many things

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Obviously, my confidence has increased greatly. The stress level has gone down a lot

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I I know I can hook this thing up and I can get it where it needs to go and Get it hooked up and get it unhooked up and make it functional and hey,

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I I made eggs I actually cooked eggs on the on the stove. Yeah, and I haven't used the oven yet, but I can't remember last time

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I used the oven at home either Not sure That's really relevant.

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Um, I let the wife do that But the only thing I ever used the oven for is making

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Czechs party mix we call it nuts and bolts you remember nuts and bolts My mom would make really good nuts and bolts and Kelly makes really good nuts and bolts and now summer makes really good nuts and Bolts, that's how it's supposed to work

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You pass pass it on down the pass it on down the family and I'm sure that Cadence and Clementine and Janie will be making really good nuts and bolts in no time fact knowing summer

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She'll have them doing that this this Christmas. I would imagine and and Thanksgiving It's not that difficult to do folks, but it's really good.

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It's extremely fattening But that's how it works but I did like I said, I I actually used the burners on the on the stove didn't burn the thing down Yeah, so and I'm still sitting here waiting for rich to go.

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Okay. All right. I did expect you to blow it up, but you didn't so fine You you you did good.

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So that but he hasn't done that yet. He won't you just like yeah fine, whatever Just saw how it works

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But so that's how we're gonna do g3 looking forward to that but So many people made it possible.

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Thank you very very much While I was in Idaho, I was in Moscow at the

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The beginning of the conference there was a men's The conference got so big that they had to meet in two different places

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So you had you so you you had a presentation but you had to make the presentation Multiple times and then there's a pre -conference thing for men

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Because they still know who met men are women are and stuff like that and I Spoke on the man in his work and Doug Wilson spoke on I think it was a man in his family.

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I We learned a new song and I noticed that They've posted this song and let me see if I can

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Man accordance is really having issues today and it's gone

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It died Let me see if I can Okay.

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Yes. I know that I can only do so much with a computer that's going. I'm not happy Things aren't working, right?

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I'm gonna hope that this is what I need to send it to because it doesn't say It doesn't say

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HDMI. There are no HDMI is listed So but there's one plugged in Let's see if this comes up.

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This is the song we learned and the first fellow You see is the guy who taught us to us. I think

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I'm pretty sure I thought this was really well done and I'll talk about it.

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Let's let's see if let's see if it works first Let him be your fear let him be your dread

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Ben break burn and blow to the Testimony and law to the word to the word we go if they don't speak this word

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They have no light at all Ben break burn and blow a stone of stone in a rock of offense

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Against this word there is no defense So I will wait upon the

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Lord To seek the one who must be adored

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If they do not feed on this word Hunger and thirst and die

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Testimony and law to the word to the word we go if they don't speak this word

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They have no light at all Ben break burn and blow

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Yeah, so um that is that will be that will be stuck in your head

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For the rest of the day. It's extremely catchy. It's a sea shanty and You may notice that they were seeing it in full harmony four parts and I Couldn't tell you how many times we practiced it before we actually did it

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But yeah there there you go It was it was quite it's quite good very very challenging to it's been a while since I had

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Had to be reading those bass notes quite that closely I Did I did take voice for four years, and it's sad as you get older It just doesn't work the way it used to work anymore

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But but there you go Okay obviously

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I You know I haven't actually seen it But I've seen Biden talking about it as was reported today the

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Food and Drug Administration Demonstrated that it is just as politically corrupt and irrelevant to medical science as the

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CDC and that is Without public comment in a way never done before At a speed never done before on a foundation never provided before The FDA now says oh those vaccines.

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They're great They're approved and so now the president's out there saying to all employers need to mandate vaccines and As was pointed out by a medical doctor who knows a billion times more about virology than Joe Biden ever could we are vaccinating for last year's disease

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We're vaccinating for last year's disease this vaccine was developed when there was no

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Delta variant and There was a report out of the

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UK PHE report that indicated that for vaccinated individuals below the age of 50 the current vaccine is

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One -third about 30. It was a 30 is he a 31 or 37 percent. I didn't pull it up It's in the 30s percent effective

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Which means it's 60 to 70 percent non -effective We are vaccinating for last year's disease

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But forcing it into people anyways Because it has nothing to do with stopping a virus and We have never

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I have challenged people on this it stops them dead in their tracks But then they just go on the the

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Karen cult has them And I've never had anyone provide a single answer to the following question name me a single respiratory virus

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That has been banished from the human experience through the use of vaccines doesn't exist

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You can't get rid of respiratory viruses with vaccines It's not possible. And so that's the goal as I drive down my roads right here in Phoenix, Arizona I am the street signs.

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Tell me that I can have my part in Getting rid of kovat 19. It's a lie and The vast majority of the

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American populace is so ignorant of basic biological facts that CNN has been successful in Convincing them that yes, you can't.

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Okay, name you one other we've done they can't As soon as I start trying to well about measles, that's not a respiratory virus so what you do is you set up an absolutely impossible goal and That way you keep the war going all the time

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Just look at what that what Look at the formerly free and beautiful city of Melbourne.

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I Sort of feel like I sort of feel like AOC Because we know that AOC has been getting

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Therapy and and stuff because of January 6 because she she was so close to dying

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Even though she was in a different building and no one ever came closer But she was so close to dying that she's been getting therapy and stuff like that well

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What? Yeah, I know that I know that. Yeah, I know that I know that but I Sort of can now understand where she's at because I was in Melbourne in December of 2019

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Yeah, and I think it's December 2019 it was 2019 it was the last it was the last time I was in Australia Was in 2019.

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I thought it was December Sometime around there and I Got out just in time

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Because it's now a prison city It's a pretty did you did you watch the video of of the

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Australian cops? Just wailing away on people choking them out spraying kids in the eyes with with you know, because they were protesting this

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Draconian tyranny that has now descended upon them. I got out just in time and I'm sorry for you guys. I really am

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I really honestly am because there were great guys down there, but You you have you have succumbed to tyranny utterly and completely we may all but Some are gonna go down with a fight and some are not and down there just Doesn't seem like well there was

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William Wallace didn't put in a did you see William Wallace show up for the There there is a guy at the at the

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Melbourne Protests that showed up on horseback and he's literally riding around screaming about freedom

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No, it wasn't horns man, he had no horns on thankfully That he's still oh, yeah, he'll he'll he's there all those people are gone forever.

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We literally have political prisoners in the United States that Because you offended the left

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You are in solitary confinement and you will never see the light of day again It's astonishing.

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It it really really is We are there we've got

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Pravda going the whole nine yards It's just they just got to pick us off one by one to to get that Get that thing working.

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So anyways the FDA approving These things that in any other era of our experience would have taken minimally and given the experimental nature nature and the various reports the confirmed deaths of pericarditis

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Spontaneous abortions Etc, etc Would have been a minimal seven probably ten -year process and Here it is

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What they started in December I think less than a year and Here we are which to me as a rational person

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Going give me the safety data. Show me the facts They decide they're not going to have that part of the discussion anymore

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The public doesn't get to ask questions. The public doesn't get to express their their concerns

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It's just nope. We've decided it's good. It's fine. Let's go and You know why that is they can't answer those questions.

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They know that They know it and So there you go

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So the FDA today proved itself to be just as much of the shill of the left as the

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CDC I would sit here and say change my mind

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But what I like is show me facts and you can't you can't you won't

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There's you're not allowed to have that give -and -take anymore and if they knock this video down just further proof

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Absolute evidence that they simply can't engage with the stuff.

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Do you see what's going on in Israel? Did you see the graph the spike in Israel?

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Israel is one of the most vaccinated nations of the planet Like I said, we're vaccinating for last year's disease and Fauci's even said it

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Everybody said it the next variant after Delta, which for some reason they're calling lambda I'm Thinking about starting a long line online petition petition to Require people to actually learn the

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Greek alphabet before they start using the Greek alphabet Lambda is not the next letter after Delta But they may have decided it's the most recognizable or the friendliest.

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I don't know. Maybe it's because it starts with LGBT anyway The next variant our vaccines will be irrelevant to it

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Irrelevant to it. And so now that you've gotten everybody to actually accept the idea that vaccination is the only way unlike Everything we've ever done in the past Now it's it's it's like 2019 beforehand was the

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Stone Ages, man Stone Age that we don't care what we did back then. We don't we don't care that we treated these people

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These things that we that we focused upon things that are effective treatments We have to prevent it because every case is a terrible thing well again pure deception

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Ignorance if you apply that in any meaningful way to the rest of the family of human diseases

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We're done the only way to deal with Cancer and heart disease and tuberculosis and meningitis and leukemia and everything else

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I know leukemia is a cancer is to Give all power to the elites

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Won't change anything. They don't care if you die but you'll feel better and Some Christians will tell you you're loving your neighbor

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In the process. There you go Knew it was coming.

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Everybody knew it was coming. There wasn't any question about it There wasn't a question about it

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There was no way the FDA was gonna do the right thing and say actually we need to stick with what we've done for the past Well, since we were made the

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FDA and actually apply what? Nothing.

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Okay. I was just rich was talked to somebody on the phone and gives me this look like oh

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Anyway So it's that I'm not meaning honestly to well and so Samuel say tweeted an article from the

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Calgary Herald by John von Slotn or Slotin pastor up in that area

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That Let's see this week

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Our church leadership team decided that when our church opens for live gatherings next month, which tells you where they've been all along All attendees 12 in order will need to be fully vaccinated

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Even though it's temporary measure there will be temporary measure remember temporary measure remember a temporary measure used to mean

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Three weeks to flatten the curve two weeks flatten the curve, whatever even though it's temporary measure there will be online alternatives and And Unvaccinated people will still be able to attend with proof of a recent negative kovat test.

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It still feels wrong It should it should pastor van

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Slotin. It should feel wrong Now again These this is a church that's been closed for how long now.

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I Mean, they're not even opening up till next month that they mean they've probably been closed for 15 16 months They need to be aware of the fact that a lot of churches that have been closed that long when they reopen discover that 80 % of their people are gone and are never coming back and To be honest with you if you've closed your church that long your church needs to be gone.

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I Have no problem with your church just simply disappearing if if you've been closed since March of last year

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Then you've abdicated all of your responsibilities to your people and they've gone elsewhere and a lot of us churches who never closed are

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Bursting at the seams because we know where your people went They wanted to hear the

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Word of God preached. They wanted to have the Lord's Supper. They wanted to see baptism they wanted to have fellowship and They're members at our church now

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That's how it works That's how it works. So I'm honestly I look at something like this and I'm like,

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I'm not surprised. I Wouldn't be I would not surprise me in an least bit for Andy Stanley's church do something the same.

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Yeah, why would that why would that surprise anybody? And if that means fewer and fewer people hearing a watered -down

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Governmentally approved message, no problem. Okay But it's when

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The government comes along and says that's what you're all gonna have to do and you know, you know

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That's what they're gonna do. And one of the things that will encourage them to do that is people like this

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Well, there are Christians and they think it's just fine So you're not really representing a

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Christian position. That's That's the issue that's that's what's gonna be hitting us right up the head okay, so I Need to get in touch

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Todd Friel really do

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Todd Todd. What you doing? What bro?

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What you doing? You know, I love you You've always been the wildest craziest

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Interviewer on the planet and if I'm gonna see it g3, are you coming to g3

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Todd? If you are I don't care how tall you are I'm gonna cut you down to size

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For your own good You know what's going on You I'm I listened to the now viral wretched radio episode that I saw

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Friday or Saturday and I listened to the whole thing and I've now downloaded because he made reference at one point to another video on YouTube I've got it and I'm gonna be doing some driving around We're trying

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To get some basic warranty work done on the fifth wheel You know those things

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Those four things you drag them you drag them down the road and you you you subject them to about 30 earthquakes per trip

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And eventually something goes wonky in the process So I've got some driving around to do and So I'm gonna listen to the other one as well

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Because I you must have I looked at it briefly when I was converting its mp3 so I could listen to it

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Looked at it briefly You did in that one you did go more into Romans 13, and I want to hear what you have to say because What you said in what

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I listened to this morning? Was Woefully insufficient in Actually dealing with what you have in In Romans 13 what you have in the scriptures on this subject it just far far too shallow to To explain what's what's really happening and so I want to limit my

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Comments To the worst example that you could have given and It's it is what the memes were made off of I didn't make the memes

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I learned about it from the meme I was sent the meme and I said he didn't say that and then

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I was sent the video and the time stamp and you did say that and It was

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Here I'll play it for you I Am I queued it up? so here's

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It is what everybody's talking about and I think we need to we need to talk about it

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We've come to this. I've got to abbreviate and not say the word You can watch that presentation and noodle through it

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It's going to be very important in the days ahead that we understand what the role of government is in our life

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And how we're supposed to respond to it when it makes really personal bad decisions the church

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Historically Has basically said submit to the gum just do what you're told

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Now there are some folks these days that believe in something called the lesser magistrates that you as a lesser magistrate

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You are you are responsible for making sure that the the upper magistrates behave

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Well, if they don't you can deal with them in whatever way you see fit. I do not adhere to that position

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I believe that if the government tells me to put Pinwheels on the side of my head every time that I go to Publix I'm gonna put pinwheels on the side of my head

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Could look like a lot of pastors these days. The point is I think we submit to our government

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But the gut but church history tells us more and this goes back to the subject that I think is so important and that is

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The subject of the body. What is okay, so it goes on from there and and properly addresses issues regarding the unknown long -term impact in The body it doesn't go into details.

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He's obviously read in some of these areas. I'm sure he must be aware of the fact that there are numerous people who have expressed grave concerns about impact on fertility spontaneous abortion especially in younger younger persons the impact upon people who've already had kovat 19 and the

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Deleterious effect of vaccinating people who already have natural defenses against the the virus

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And of course danger of ADE which More than one person is whispering about right now in regards to Israel because I mentioned

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Israel most vaccine one the most vaccinated and analyzed populations in the world

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Having a virus spike in the summer Now they're claiming.

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Well, it's amongst the unvaccinated but they're they're all the percentage of unvaccinated in Israel's tiny

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Note that there are lots of other people saying no, it's not it's amongst the vaccinated

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But they're being told not to say that because they don't want people to not get the vaccine. So the all this stuff going on and The trustworthiness of government numbers

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The fact you couldn't trust the Biden regime as far as you could throw it, you know, they're professional liars

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That from the start but The issue that caught everybody's attention

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Was the assertion Earlier than this he had quoted from Peter. He quotes from Romans 13 says these are airtight airtight about what what are they airtight in?

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And it sounds like the illustration. It was a bad illustration Okay, I've used the illustration illustration

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I came up with so so Doug Wilson came up with an illustration about wearing a blue beanie on Alternate Thursdays or something like that.

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I before he did that I came up with Sticking a pink colored cotton swab up your left nostril

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For seven hours and 14 minutes per day would protect you from COVID Okay, so if so if Anthony Fauci comes out and says that are you gonna believe that are you gonna do that There's there's not there's not a scintilla of evidence

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That that's true But are you gonna do that? And I'm for most of us.

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We're just simply illustrating That what we're being told to do

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Runs against science against common sense against everything that we know

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Um, but it wasn't so much a submission to the government type thing so here

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Todd says stick pinwheels on the side of your head and you go to Publix and If the government says to do it

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Romans 13 says stick pinwheels on the side of your head and go to Publix And I say that's absolutely

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Absurd. How how do you read Romans 13 and come up with that and I'm Concerned that what it represents

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Is Not a difference in how to do hermeneutics

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Historical grammatical interpretation going the original language, etc, etc But is how you are to relate the themes of scripture so you can say every soul every person is to be subbed in subjection to the governing authorities and And We I'm not gonna go back over what we talked about when we

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I've preached sermon on this and I'll try to remember to find the dividing line that we did in the other studio where we walked through this and talked a little bit about What governing authorities might mean it's possible that term means?

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authorities that have superior Moral character to them. We talked a little bit about the possibility of those meanings

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For there is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God. So Government is established by God.

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No question about that. The family is established by God and yet There are families that break apart

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There are families where sin Mars that family unit and where pornaya enters in and breaks what was designed by God and You do not keep that family unit intact when it's been destroyed covenantally

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Even Jesus said except for fornication pornaya. That's a broad category So why in that Would we recognize that there are times when that goes wrong and therefore it needs to be done away with But not with governments

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Governments are always right always to be subjected to well, there's a problem because the government that's described here

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When Paul says therefore whoever resists authority is opposed the ordinance of God and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves

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He then describes who it is that they've been resisting Who is it?

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For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil so Todd As soon as it says good behavior and evil

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By what standard? By what standard? We literally now live in a day when there is a form of government

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That was first seen amongst men at the beginning of the last century Had never been seen amongst men before this

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There had never been a form of government That was thoroughly atheistic

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Thoroughly secular Every government had in some way shape or form before The beginning of the 20th century had to make some room for some acknowledgement of a supernatural realm

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My talk at the conference last week of Moscow was on Darwinism Darwin opened the door

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For what is now? Listen to me. Think about this, please everybody think about this

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Is this true or is this not true? secular humanism is the greatest and fullest denial of every truth contained in Jesus that Mankind has ever

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Created think about a moment

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We know I hope you already know The myth of neutrality

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I Hope you already know there's no such thing as a neutral worldview the government is not neutral and The government being described here is a government where the rulers are

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Not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil that is not true

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Under secular humanism a secular government is a cause of fear for good behavior and They encourage evil behavior, right?

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Can we agree on that? Some people would say no Some people say well, we don't we can't

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We can't apply theological standards to another kingdom and that's why the two kingdoms stuff needs to be rejected

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You can't understand Romans 13 1 & 2 if you don't recognize that the for application by the

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Apostle Paul Assumes the reality of being able to define good and Evil and for the

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Apostle Paul the source of that is found in Christ in his law and there can be no question of that Secular humanism because It has

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Darwin has no creator has no judgment has no transcendent meaning

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Therefore there is no law. There is no redemption. There is no resurrection Everything that is good and powerful and beautiful in the gospel of Jesus Christ is fundamentally denied

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By the secular system. It is the greatest enemy that has ever stood to its feet in the presence of the risen

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Christ now Obviously what that means

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For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil Do you want to have no fear of authority do what is good and you have praise from the same?

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therefore if you have a governing authority That does cause fear for good behavior

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That promotes evil That causes fear of authority for good people, but not for evil people

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That by doing good you receive condemnation From the same

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For it is a Diakonos a

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Deacon a minister of God Ice ta Agathon for the good

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Yes be in submission to such government authorities and When you face government governing authorities that are in opposition to everything that is good the role of the church is to warn of the

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Judgment that will come upon such governing authorities

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But I suppose Todd might say Sure Go ahead.

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Tell them that they're gonna be under judgment, but you still got to wear the pinwheels Not if the pinwheels mean that I am acknowledging that that government is actually good or That it has true authority as the servant of God.

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It's standing opposed to God when a government

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Demands that you do things that are fundamentally in opposition to being made in the image of God things that are absurd

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Things that are untruthful Things that go against the reality of the created order

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It is good for Christian people to stand up and to condemn

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Such absurdities Because any government that continues in that way will not only destroy itself, but those under its authority

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So if we want to stand for life Then we must stand for what is true and what causes human flourishing now

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Todd you said The church history has told us

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Todd I Appreciate the fact you've done programs church history you and I Did a whole thing on church history at least in regards to the

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Bible remember but church history says no such thing

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It is Inappropriate it is not right to Use the phrase church history teaches us in that fashion

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There are all sorts of sources that I could point you to you live in a land that was founded by men who if they

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Heard you say what you said back in the 1700s would have slapped you upside the head to put it mildly

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There have been I mean to say that church history teaches any kind of singular interpretation of state -church relationship is just is just to make a mockery out of the complexity of That relationship and how it has gone through so many

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Amazing manifestations down through the years. I mean you've got to deal with the rise of sacralism.

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You've got to deal with the nature of Feudal Europe and then

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Kings and the Holy Roman Empire and as There's you'll find all sorts of differences between the

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Reformers on things and then you've got the whole issue of sacralism amongst the Reformers and the inconsistency that that led to amongst the

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Reformers there is no one church history answer to any of this stuff I mean, come on I Was just stunned when you said that That's just not true

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Anyway so that was a bad example in a bad situation now you did go on to say that you know you

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Very clearly recognize that a person who's convinced That their bodily integrity their life their children's future

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Fertility ability to have children continue the race Health development

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Vitally important centrally important and Given the reality of the

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Crash of efficacy of these vaccines. I mean now we're literally getting the point saying well, yeah

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Vaccinated people will actually carry more virus Than unvaccinated people which make them super spreaders

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That was predicted, wasn't it? That so vaccinated people can have more virus

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But they won't get it quite as bad. Well 99 .97 % of people under 70 don't get it bad enough to die

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So now with it going down into the 30s and efficacy against the

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Delta variant, isn't it obvious that There's something else going on here are

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Christians allowed to recognize the global lurch

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Into totalitarianism you mentioned it Todd you said it at the beginning of the program. You see the totalitarianism coming you see you you see it

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Why can't we factor that in does Romans 13 literally say? Christians should be the last people to stand for life and freedom and liberty against the onslaught of totalitarian secularism

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We should just do whatever the totalitarian secularists tell us to do

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Until we have a theological point That's the whole that's there's another one of the problems what's a theological point

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Well until they tell you to To not say that Jesus is Lord.

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That's when you can finally draw the line When they tell me that I cannot teach my grandchildren what a boy is and a girl is

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They've already told me to deny the gospel to them right You better believe it

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You better believe it seems to me that The Christian message has a much wider and fuller message

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To those who would be tyrants in our world Then just well, we're just gonna sit over here and let you do what you want in secular affairs but Don't mess with our passing out the four spiritual laws.

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No, it's much more than that It's much more than that. So Dude I'm gonna listen to the other thing you did.

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I want to hear how you deal Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection not only because of wrath

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Wrath against what against goodness? That's what we've that's we're facing right now, but also for conscience's sake.

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Yeah Exactly my conscience will not allow me to wear pinwheels to Coles Because that's stupidity

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That denies the Imago Dei that it denies the transcendent human value of human life it grants to the government an authority based upon insanity

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Not a minister of God for your good there. There is a that line show me how those to whom you're saying

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I am to be in submission are a minister of God to me for my good and I almost always somebody jumps immediate from that.

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Well Roman Emperors were pretty bad people This is supposed to be for all people at all times. It's supposed to work in China is supposed to work in Brazil This is even supposed to work in Melbourne, which is tough these days

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How is this a minister of God for the good and how do you define? Ta Agathon How would

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Paul have defined Ta Agathon? That's the question.

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That's the question So anyway Love you, Todd. I just think that was a face plantingly bad attempt and You said it might be and I'm just here to tell you it was it was you

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There's a book coming out Todd and I'm gonna challenge you to read it in fact,

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I would challenge you to interview its author and I would be happy to act as intermediary

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To set up such an interview. I have a good position.

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Not only has he been a guest on this program But some of you may know I didn't make a big deal out of it here on the program but I'm very thankful to have been made a fellow of the

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Ezra Institute just a couple of months ago and And Therefore I have the ear of dr.

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Joseph boot the head of the Ezra Institute If you have not seen his magisterial work the mission of God, I would highly recommend it to you

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I know that you're gonna disagree with a lot of it, but It's compellingly written

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But he has a new book coming out and And it is the

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Lord of Kings it is specifically on this subject the relationship of Christ Lordship and human government and Unlike the mission of God which takes you weeks to read

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I'm guessing this one. I have the PDF. I should I should look at it But I'm guessing on the basis of how long the recording was

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I'm guessing 140 to 150 pages awesomely written

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John Cooper read it a skillet loved it wrote a commendation for it as did

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I and I'm gonna challenge you Todd Have Joe boot on I'll bet you anything

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Joe would send you send you the PDF immediately if you want to read it In fact,

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I'll ask Joe if I can send it to you because I think there are some fundamental issues here and you have a voice and These are important times very very important times and The church has much more of a voice and much more of an authority to proclaim

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Christ Lordship Then I think pinwheels on the side of the head really illustrate. So there you go went a little bit long

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Tomorrow brother Nathan's gonna be on We're gonna We're gonna talk about mm -hmm

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Whether whether you can actually be saved by anything on the King James Version of the Bible, it's actually yeah,

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I came up yeah, and One of the most amazing descriptions of Calvinism I've ever heard too.

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That was that was pretty wild But anyways, so we'll see you next time on the dividing line If there is a dividing line in the future after a program like this might be the end of all that who knows