Reformation Celebration, Kanye, and #BAMH2

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I don't want to rock a boat, I want to sink it! I'm gonna burp all day.
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Delusional. Delusional is okay in your worldview. I'm an animal. You don't chastise chickens for being delusional.
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You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your worldview is perfectly okay. It doesn't really hurt.
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You hung up on me! What? What? Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men.
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The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men, lauding them for their courage.
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Go into all the world and make disciples. Not go into the world and make buddies. Not to make brosives. Don't go into the world and make homies.
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Disciples. I got a bit of a jiggle neck. That's a joke, pastor.
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When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.
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Take an amazing journey, so you will never be the same again.
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation.
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To everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it, the righteousness of God is revealed from faith.
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For faith as it is written, the righteous shall live by faith. What's up, guys?
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Welcome back to another episode of The Gospel Heard Around the World. This is Apologia Radio. Very big day for us here today at Apologia Studio.
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Some of you guys already know what's up. Welcome, guys, all around the world, everyone watching on them
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Internets. Make sure you guys like and share everything you guys can all over the world. And I am Pastor Jeff Durbin.
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They call me the Ninja. That is Luke the Bear Pearson over there. And then we have King Ginger with us today, Marcus Pittman.
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Hey, welcome, guys. And I will say a very happy Reformation Day to you and to you, sir.
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Oh, and to you. Happy Reformation Day. The same. So did anybody catch the significance of the verse that I read?
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Maybe, maybe not. Romans chapter 1. I was trying to get this on the pub. I missed it. Romans chapter 1, a famous story in history, is, of course, the story of Martin Luther.
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He was a Christian within the Roman Catholic communion. And he was, of course, the story goes, very, very grieved over his sins.
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He felt despair because of his guilt and his shame. He understood the holiness of God and all the rest.
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And so Martin Luther, of course, is famous historically for spending so much time in that confessional, confessing his sins for so long and being so detailed about it.
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He was wearing out the other priests. And good for him. Good for him.
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So what happened was, of course, the story goes, Martin Luther was reading Romans chapter 1.
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And he comes to this particular text about the righteous shall live by faith.
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The gospel is the power of God for salvation. And that's where his eyes were opened to the glory of the gospel, the biblical gospel, the historic gospel, the gospel the church had believed throughout the ages.
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And, of course, the Roman Catholic communion had corrupted and continues to corrupt to this day.
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Roman Catholicism is an apostate Christian communion, which means not
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Christian because they deny justification through faith alone in Christ alone. They deny the gospel.
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The Council of Trent was the nail in the coffin for Rome, where they determined to essentially shake their fist up at God to deny biblical orthodoxy, historic orthodoxy concerning salvation.
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And Council of Trent was their official nail. Boom. We're standing where we stand, and we have fallen into apostasy.
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So welcome to Reformation Day, guys. Very big day. And, hey, I just got to say, it's
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Reformation Day. I was driving back. Marcus and I had a very long morning. And night. And night, yeah.
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His night was longer than mine, for sure. And we ended up speeding here at around 745 in the morning to get here because we had some technical issues with our film.
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I'm trying to get around YouTube's de -platforming and shadow banning.
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So the film is, of course, Babies Are Still Murdered Here. Babies Are Murdered Here Part 2. We launched it, of course, on both platforms,
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YouTube and Facebook. Don't necessarily go to leave here now to go watch it, but make sure you guys go.
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It's underneath this video, in our videos, on YouTube, Apologia Studios, and on Facebook. We launched it this morning.
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I think we had at one point today about 1 .8 thousand viewers live.
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I saw 1 ,000 at one point. Yeah, at 8 in the morning we had almost 2 ,000 live viewers. Oh, wow.
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Yeah, at a certain point. Numbers were just kind of getting weird there for a little bit, which causes some confusion.
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So we had that. We had about 1 ,500 shares when the movie was finished. I might be saying, you know, why do you care about those numbers?
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It's a big deal because as of right now on the platforms, Facebook and YouTube, it is extremely hard to get across Christian content, quote -unquote pro -life content, anti -abortion content, all that stuff.
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It's very, very difficult. You've got to work around a million different layers of algorithm and stops and all those things.
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And so we had a very, very successful launch of the film. It's Reformation Day.
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It is very symbolic. It's, of course, on the one end of the spectrum, the area of Reformation in terms of pointing the church of God back to the
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Word of God to always be reforming ourselves according to Scripture, which is the ultimate authority,
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God's inerrant word. It's the standard. It's the reference point. It's the principium. The church throughout history, throughout the ages, has always gone to the
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Word of God to settle disputes, to sharpen doctrine, to fight error, to cast out heretics, whether it's
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Arianism, whether it's Marcionites, whether it is— well,
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I would say the church coming together in the Council of Dort is some pretty serious business to fight against the
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Armenians. So anyway, but in the area of Reformation—Marcus, bring us into this, please.
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The area of Reformation in the Christian witness, gospel witness, and culture for the area of abortion, we are calling for—
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Demonetized. Yeah. We're calling for Reformation, and we're calling— You just need like a weird sound effect.
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So every time you say it, you're just like— You'll all know. We'll tell you. We mean this. When you hear beep, just know we mean this.
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We'll hold like a sign up. This is what we mean. But they'll see the words now, so. Yeah, they can't read the text if it's from a sign on our side.
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Yeah, maybe. Put the text into the video. Yeah, maybe. That's right. They might be able to read it, those scoundrels. Okay, so we mean that there needs to be
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Reformation in the church in the area of abortion, male ministry, and ending abortion. Marcus, is the pro -life movement
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Christian, and why do we need Reformation? They're the least Christian organization.
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They're stealing our worldview and pretending to be Christian, but they're not.
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I mean, they don't hide it. I don't think there's anything controversial about our interviews with National Right to Life and Carol Tobias and Olivia.
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Ganz Turner. Ganz Turner, yeah. I don't think there's anything controversial about that stuff because they boldly proclaim it.
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So they'd probably watch our film and be like, oh yeah, they portrayed us accurately. I mean, there isn't anything hidden that we exposed.
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But they say in the film, and you can go on YouTube right now and watch it, they say very clearly that they don't use the gospel, they don't use
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Christian preaching, the call for repentance, all that stuff, because they want to get a large audience as possible in order to change abortion.
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But, I mean, it's Reformation Day. It was one dude. Well, listen to that one dude.
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Wait, hold on. Let me get... There you go. The best part. Okay, here we go. What is your answer?
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Yes or no? Will you recant or will you not?
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Come on, Martin Luther. Since Your Majesty and Your Lordships desire a simple reply,
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I will answer. Unless I am convinced by scripture and by plain reason, and not by popes and councils who have so often contradicted themselves.
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Or pro -life leaders. Yeah. My conscience is captive to the word of God.
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Boom! There you go. Now, we say Reformation Day and how it's all relevant in the area of protecting the gospel, justification through faith,
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Sola Scriptura, all that stuff, but also it counts here too. Yeah, yeah. On the word of God.
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The popes and everything else and all these people contradict themselves. Hey, isn't it interesting that many of the pro -life movement are...
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Well, not only do they contradict themselves, they boast about it. Yeah. So if you watch the film, there's that scene with Allison.
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I don't remember her last name. But she's one of the top people at live action. Yeah, it's about three quarters of the way through the film this comes out.
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Yeah, so live action and they're talking about... I'm interviewing her and I asked her,
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I said, just last week there was a lady who stabbed her newborn baby and she got sentenced to life in prison.
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And I go, isn't that inconsistent? And she goes, oh yeah, it is inconsistent.
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And she laughs about it. She's like, what? Because they don't punish women. They don't want women who've had abortions to be punished.
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Right. And she actually was offended when you said, when she thought you suggested that they use the gospel.
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She was like, what? What? Not us. Who, us? Not us. Not us. That was golden.
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Yeah. So they're very, very adamant. Don't say that we're using the gospel.
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We're not using the gospel. And I think for most of the people who are involved in pro -life, they're not going to care.
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But I think for the Christians, for people who are faithful and who believe that the
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Bible is the standard to end injustice in America or in the world, anyone who at least has that knowledge will be able to look at this film and go, yeah,
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I can't roll with them anymore. Right. How about this? Okay, here it is. So you guys are all listening. We've got a bunch of people on the live feed right now.
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Thank you guys all for joining us. Listen to this clip from Babies Are Still Murdered here. This is at an hour and 25 minutes, 47 seconds -ish.
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Listen to this clip. It's what Marcus is describing. It's actually a powerful moment. Listen. No mainstream pro -life group in this country has ever endorsed penalizing women.
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What do you think? What about women who have an abortion? Should they be charged with murder? No. We need to talk about who's really to blame, and that's the abortionist.
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Right. So if anything, we would say that this abortion doctor knows what they're doing, and they knew that.
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So that's what we're seeing happening in the state right now. How do we overcome the objection that women who, let's say like the other day, there was a lady and she stabbed her baby like nine times, newborn baby, and she was charged with murder.
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Sure. But a person, a woman who has an abortion is not charged with murder. Yeah. I hear what you're saying. And it's a logical inconsistency, what you're saying.
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Okay. Right? It is. Right. Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally. That's it. So listen.
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I mean, think, wait, hold on. Like how can you be responsible for a million -dollar organization, and when somebody says, hey, don't you think the foundational position of your organization is inconsistent?
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And you're like, yeah, totally. Yeah. You're beating the air. You're fine. Listen, that's huge.
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Everyone, please listen to this. That's massive. I don't think we're catching like the gravity of it. You are working for legislation to supposedly end something, so you're working on a legislative aspect, arm of something.
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And then when someone says to you, so what's your position? Like is it bad? How bad? What should happen?
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And someone says, I don't really know. And you go, well, like is she guilty of a crime?
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Well, no, no, she's not. She doesn't know what she's doing. She's a victim. But that abortion guy over there, he's guilty.
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And you ask Tony Lowinger, who's the vice president of the National Right to Life, the biggest pro -life organization literally on the planet.
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You ask him. You say, well, is the abortionist guilty at least? Is it at least him? She's not guilty.
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Is it at least he guilty for tearing heads off of little boys and girls like he disembowels little boys, he cuts their bodies in half?
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Is he guilty of murdering an innocent unborn child? And then Tony Loweringer goes, oh, maybe it's a fine point.
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And then Olivia. I don't really think we should call that murder either. And then Olivia, she mentions, well, my boyfriend, he's not the enemy here either.
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Who is responsible for this stuff? Nobody's guilty. They're operating from neutrality. They're trying to end this from a neutral position, and that's why they suck.
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Babies are still murdered here. That's right. The name fits perfectly. So this movement is confessionally.
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That's a good word. This movement is confessionally opposed to biblical worldview, biblical justice, biblical gospel, and the biblical way to transformation out of this.
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That's what you need to hear. They are confessionally against it, right? And so when we think about Reformation Day and all that's in there, when you think about Reformation Day, brothers and sisters, and you have celebrations on a day like today, and you think back to what
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God did to heal the church, and it's still being healed. God sanctifies the church through time. You think about that grand moment.
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What was the Reformation ultimately? How did it bring so much light? Post -Tenobras Lukes, right?
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Or however you want to pronounce that. What does it mean? After darkness, light.
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What brought the light? It was the move back to the Bible. It was the move back to Scripture as the foundation for everything.
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That's where there was darkness, and then there's light. Brothers and sisters, that doesn't exist just in the world of theology, right?
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And heady theology thinking up here, but that exists in the world of justice too. If you want justice in the world, if there's darkness around us and injustice, there's going to be light only when you go back to the
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Scriptures. And brothers and sisters, I know, because dude, it was in the feed today. The film was going, and we're literally addressing the concerns in terms of like, what's wrong?
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Back to Scripture. God says it's ineffective. It's inconsistent. And somebody said, I think you guys are wrong.
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The pro -life movement does a lot of good. They save a lot of lives. And we have to repeat this every single time.
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And it's amazing that we do. Listen, we are grateful to God that He strikes straight blows with crooked sticks. We're so glad that God in this fallen world accomplishes
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His purpose even through inconsistent means and people who do things wrongly.
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But just because God actually works graciously to save babies with crooked sticks, it doesn't mean that we're supposed to look around for crooked sticks to hit people with.
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We're supposed to say, what does God desire? What is justice? Put it this way. Just because Obama did some good things doesn't mean
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I'm going to vote for him again. Exactly. Yeah. So basically we've had 46 years. Foundationally, I'm opposed to Barack Obama.
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Yeah. Right? Exactly. So I can't, even though I go, oh, look at the good things. I can't think of any at the moment. But look at the good things.
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I'm sure he did some. I don't even know. Let me start that one again. We've had 46 years of darkness in the pro -life movement, so our hope is that this film is what brings the light to the darkness.
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Yeah, but we talk about, I mean, one of the things I hope got across in the film is you have these pro -life lobbyists, like National Right to Life, Live Action, all these organizations that are working closely with the political establishment and the conservative pro -life elected officials who claim to be pro -life.
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So they're all just working up here, and they're just completely ignoring you. National Right to Life doesn't care about you.
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They don't care about anything we're saying. They don't care about the Christians or what their thoughts are because they're only interested in keeping
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Republicans in office, even if they're pro -choice Republicans, too. So they're only interested in keeping Republicans in office.
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And so what this film shows, and I think through Jeremiah Thomas was a great example of that, is that if the people come together, they can demand of their politicians what to do.
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And we don't need the pro -life lobbyists and organizations. We don't need those. Because, like Jeff Leach, Jeff Leach needs to be removed from office immediately.
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He has a great name. Yeah, he's a leech. It's perfect. It's a great name.
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No question. He leeches off the pro -life movement. He does. For money and courage awards.
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And votes. Yeah. When you fight against a bill to criminalize and end abortion, and then turn right around and try to take glory for saying, well, we should at least protect babies who are born alive.
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Yeah. It's so repulsive. I thought one of the most disgusting parts of the film is we know what he did, and then when
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Rusty got up and spoke and he was like, oh, your son was a hero. Yeah, your son's a hero, and I'm totally not going to support any of this.
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Oh, my goodness. But your son is a hero. I'm not. But your son is. So here's the thing.
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Some of you guys might be saying, well, you guys are really heavy -handed. And the answer is, yeah, we are being very heavy -handed because babies are dying.
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This isn't a disagreement between my brother, whom I love so much, who is a
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Presbyterian, and I'm a Reformed Baptist, and we have side issues we may disagree with. We're good together.
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We're serving Jesus together, worshiping God together, and we're together. We have minor disagreements that we don't get to be heavy -handed with each other.
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We don't get to be. We're not allowed to be because it's the wrong context. But when you're talking about the situation where you've got babies being murdered today in this city, and you've got upwards of 3 ,000 babies a day being killed in the
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United States of America, yep, it deserves a heavy hand. It deserves a heavy hand. When do you see
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Paul and Jesus dealing heavy -handedly with people? When they're destroying people's souls?
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That's when? Like religious perversion that destroys people's souls. Heavy hand.
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Jesus gives a heavy hand in Matthew 23 to religious hypocrites and to the Pharisees and the scribes and the covenant breakers.
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Heavy hand. Brood of vipers. Whitewashed tombs. You're full of dead men, stinking, rotting corpses.
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And then the Apostle Paul, look in the book of Acts. You see the heavy hand he dealt out when people would actually try to come into his ministry and cause disruption to people's lives and souls.
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And then, of course, Galatians, very short letter. What does he say? He says, go to hell.
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Essential, anathema. Anathema on you, and let me go to hell. Let me go to hell forever and burn forever by God if I preach any other gospel.
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As a matter of fact, last couple chapters there, the Apostle Paul says this, and I'm about to get very biblical here, so protect your
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Christian ears. In Galatians 5, the Apostle Paul basically says to these people who want to circumcise, he's like, you guys love circumcision so much.
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Look, if you're trusting in that, then you've abandoned Christ, you've abandoned grace, you've abandoned faith.
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He says, you know, and these people that love to, like, you know, circumcise, he says, I hope they go all the way. I hope they cut themselves off.
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I love how the Christian translations do it, of course, too. Like, I hope they go all the way, I hope they mutilate themselves.
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He says, yeah, I hope you cut your penis off. Demonetized. Yeah, that's what he says.
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Now, that's the Apostle Paul, and you might be saying, well, my goodness, so should we be like Steven Anderson?
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Should we be the kind of person who is putting on a show and is just always angry and every issue is a heavy -handed screaming issue?
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No. How do you know that's wrong? Because you see the life and behavior and pattern and biblical model of our heroes, prophets,
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Peter, Paul, John, the Lord Jesus, they don't deal with a heavy hand always, but guess what?
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They do when it deals with people's lives and people's souls. And in a situation like this, when the pro -life movement is actually taking millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars to pretend to work to end abortion, which is what they're doing.
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Let me interrupt this breaking announcement. What's that? National Right to Life responded. No kidding. So they say, someone said, did you watch it?
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Not all of it. I watched enough to see their take and am not surprised. They are not fond of us, and they are not totally honest.
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Really, I'd like to find out where we're not being totally honest. But that is on them. I don't have two hours to watch the whole thing. Thanks for dropping by.
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Who is that? We don't know. It's from the National Right to Life Facebook page. They think that we're not pro -life.
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They think we're crazy, and I'm quoting them. Right. But I was going to say, along the lines of what you were saying,
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I talked about this on Saturday. If you look at the total number of abortions since Roe v.
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Wade, it's about 3 ,000 per day. In the last year or two, it's dropped to about 2 ,000.
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Praise God. But that's not a victory. That's not a victory. That's not winning. I said it's basically like we're bailing water from a sinking ship and buying his time, but it's not victory.
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The reason the abortion numbers are dropping is because of the regulations. They're correct, but they're going to the non -regulated industry, which is the abortifacients bill, which is just like taxi cabs.
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This is business 101. Taxi cabs are highly regulated. Therefore, Uber and Lyft started, and it was regulation -free completely initially.
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So people say, well, nobody's taking taxi cabs anymore.
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Yeah, but a lot more people are taking Uber and Lyft than ever took a taxi cab. And then the same thing is like Blockbuster had late fees, and so people went to Napa.
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Right, that's true. You know, the regulations are just causing more people to go to a better market.
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Yeah. It's just, I mean, for them to say that, and they deny that over and over and over again.
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Well, I'll release a clip this next week of we actually asked a congressman when me and John, this is so much stuff didn't make the film.
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So we were in D .C. at the Family Research Council meeting, and we asked a congressman about the regulations, and he just goes, well, he just stutters and stammers for like two minutes and never addresses the core of the question because they know that's exactly what regulations do.
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It moves people. Regulations forces businesses to find the path of least resistance.
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That's what regulations do. Plus, I was just going to say along those lines, that's a great point, but the people who's shutting the abortion clinics down, it's not
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National Rights of Life. No, they've never shut down. It's people that are. It's the Christian churches that are standing outside of abortion clinics that are closing those clinics down.
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Right. Actually closing them down. Whereas National Rights of Life will close the clinic down because of regulations, and they'll spring up a brand new multimillion dollar facility.
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Or you might get people like Abby Johnson who actually stopped the shutting down of clinics. That's shit. Yeah. Let's just talk about that.
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Everyone, we're going to go to break here in a second, and then we'll come back and talk about Kanye and some other things, but that's a good point, is to bring that to the front of the church to say, hey, brothers and sisters, pay attention to this very closely.
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Look very humbly. We're suggesting. Look at what God did. He sent Christians out to the abortion clinics to preach the gospel.
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Lives were saved. The abortion mills shut down. So isn't it interesting? When the church rises up to bring the gospel and the biblical worldview into conflict with darkness, the darkness starts to scatter.
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Darkness starts to dissolve. Right? And then amazingly, you start to have Christians now, because of,
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I believe, because of what's been happening in the last decade. Babies are murdered here. Another Christian church is going out, using the word murder, saying,
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I want criminalization. All of a sudden, you start to see this bubble starting to form in these states where they're going, no, we need to get serious about this.
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We need to talk about bans. Like in Planned Parenthood, all of a sudden it's going, they're talking about banning abortion. We're like, yeah, because Christians are being consistent, finally, saying murder, end it.
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Murder, end it now. Justice today. Right now. So it's pushing on these cowardly pro -life leaders to actually do something.
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This is in the film where you have, for four years, the head of Ohio Right to Life talking about how bad heartbeat bills are.
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And then the people demanding a heartbeat. Now, we're not the biggest fan of heartbeat bills, but I put it in there to show that it doesn't really matter what the bill is.
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They want to make their own decisions and go against the people. And then when the people demand a heartbeat bill and a heartbeat bill does get passed, which they said it never would, there they are clapping in the room, cheering for it like it's a great thing, even though they've been fighting against it for four years.
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That's right. So they're just populist. So they just go wherever they think the people want them to go.
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So the truth is, and this is sad but true, if Christians actually start to rise up and influence the culture with the truth, it forces these weak, cowardly, pro -life leaders to actually finally start yielding to what is actually righteous and good.
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Because they have to, because the culture changes. If the people in Texas were to rise up next election and vote
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Jeff Leach out, or even put up a Democrat because they split the vote with their own candidate, at least you know where the
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Democrat runs. And Democrats are powerless in Texas at the moment. So I'm not saying vote for a
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Democrat. I'm just saying even if it resulted in a Democrat being elected, it would still be better because now what you have is
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National Right to Life who's put all this money into Jeff Leach. Suddenly he's gone.
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And now they realize you just took their God away. Yes, that's right.
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And so that's the move, man. I would say the people, the church, rise up and vote against Jeff Leach.
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Get him out. He needs to be out. He can't be elected again. I want to say something real quick before we go to break. Because this would be a good point to not get us off too much.
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One, for the jerk that just said I'm a waste of space on the show, I'm going to put some input into the show.
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That's one. Two, someone on here keeps yelling at us in all caps about vaccines.
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I'm just going to say this quickly. What angers me to no end is
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Christians who get all up in arms about vaccines because there's aborted fetal cells in it, but they don't have that same passion and desire to end abortion outright.
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And that should be our desire and our focus is ending abortion. Quit messing around and freaking out and wasting time with vaccines when there's babies being aborted.
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That's where our energy and focus needs to be. Well, if you think about it, because that's a good thing and I want people to maybe hear that, the reasoning behind that.
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If you are opposed to the issue of vaccines, and I understand, of course, the reasoning behind that. Trust me, we understand.
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How do you stop the use of those things, the aborted fetal cells? Right. You're so passionate about vaccines, probably posting about it every day,
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Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all the articles and all the rest, which is fine, all the scientific data and everything else.
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But how do you get behind all that to end it? Exactly. By talking about vaccines? No, let's end abortion. Exactly.
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Let's end abortion. Then we don't have aborted fetal cells in vaccines. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Passion directed to the right position, passion directed to the right platform will actually accomplish something.
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It's attacking the heart of the issue. Yes. Vaccines isn't the heart of the issue. It's abortion. So, for example, imagine this for a second.
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I like to use this example. Then we're going to go to commercial. Carmen, get ready for that commercial break. Imagine that it's 1 .30
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a .m. You hear your window crash. You leap out of bed. You're shaking.
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Your legs are shaking. Your hands are shaking. Your adrenaline's pumping, right? You can't even see straight because your blood's pumping so hard in your neck.
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All of a sudden, you hear boots running down your hallway, right? You have an enemy in your house coming to destroy you and your family, right?
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And you've got this one shot to destroy this enemy. Let me ask you. The enemy bursts through the door, right?
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They see this large towering figure burst through the door, and you've got one chance to destroy this person, to take him down.
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I ask you, brothers and sisters, do we jump and attack that tall figure and start biting his ankles, punching his kneecaps?
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What do you do to take down an enemy that means to destroy you and everything you love? What do you do? Well, I would say you actually take him out, use a weapon, go for the jugular.
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You go for the death blow. And when we have this issue of abortion confronting us as Christians, I think we've often actually gone against this thing coming to destroy everything in our lives and in our culture with that kind of mindset.
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Like, let me just, let me punch him. Let me box him. And my wife's calling in a bunch right now.
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Let me punch him. Let me box him. Let me bite his ankles. Like, no, you need to destroy the enemy and destroy him quickly.
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That's what you need to do. It's like David and Goliath. That's right. He didn't do that with Goliath. He went right for the headshot. Right for the headshot.
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And I love how my wife, my wife, honey, I love you so much. Stop calling me.
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So that's a good point. We'll end with that. David and Goliath, all of Israel is looking at him going, look how big that dude is.
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Right? I can't, I can't, I can't take him. I'm totally scared of him. And David's response when he sees it is, who are these uncircumcised
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Philistines coming against the armies of the living God? Who do you think you are? You uncircumcised
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Philistines. You don't know God. Unbelievable. So we have to have the mindset of like the heroes of the faith, the people who had courage to trust in God, where they're like, you know, of course the famous thing like, you know, this guy's too big to hit.
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And he's like, David's like, no, he's too big to miss. Right? I can get him and I'll kill him. And so when we look at this giant like abortion, like, oh, we have all these things that are in front of us and so hard.
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It's this massive giant. The people of God need to look at this and say, who are these uncircumcised Philistines coming against the armies of the living
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God? I'm going to take this giant down for the glory of God. That's what we need to be doing, guys. Stay with us. We'll be right back.
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Right here on Apologia Radio. Quick commercial break. We're back to talk about Kanye. The goal for New St.
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Andrews College as it trains its students is not to make people who will be able to go out and just get jobs, people who will just be bricks in the wall of our society.
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The goal for New St. Andrews College is to make students into men and women who will really impact culture.
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I want their faith to not just be something that stands, but something around which culture can be built.
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We want students who can think critically about arguments, but also about the culture around them, that can then speak clearly to it, and that also have the ability to influence and shape because of the power of their message.
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Because that's really what the gospel does. The gospel throws down all the arguments against it. It speaks to the hearts of people.
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It influences, and it changes. Go to ApologiaStudios .com.
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