Everything from Tongues to Pantsuits to the Trinity with Sam Brooks
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Although Sam Brooks takes the Biblical orthodox position on a whole host of issues, he came under fire from Kendrick Murray, the theatrical leader of what purports to be "THE" church. In defense of Biblical orthodoxy, Pastor Jeff Kliewer of Cornerstone Church in Mt. Laurel, NJ and Sam Brooks of Christ Fellowship Baptist Church in Mobile, AL address the points made in the video that Murray aimed at Sam. 1. Is speaking in tongues necess
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- Hey, I'm here with my friend Sam Brooks. My name is Pastor Jeff Cleaver. I'm up in New Jersey, Mount Laurel, New Jersey the church is called
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- Cornerstone Church and Sam and I met over the internet. We we had mutual interaction on a video and So what
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- I've come to discover is that you have been under attack brother. It sounds like there is
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- There is a man named Kendrick Murray who has put out a public video and tried to just put you on blast so I wanted to give you a chance to introduce yourself and what we'll do is we'll kind of propose some of these ideas and Test those by the
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- Word of God Acts 17 11 says that we should be Bereans that the Bereans were more noble than the
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- Thessalonians because they didn't just take what Paul said they Tested to see if these things are so Right.
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- Amen Yeah, so let's get into this video it seems like there's about five points of conflict here
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- One is this this gentleman proposes that one must speak in tongues in order to be saved
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- That's a big one, yeah, there's another one just as big as that but the second one is divorce and remarriage
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- He has a very narrow view and in many ways there are some good insights. He has in that direction
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- We got to be very careful But I think he takes some things a little too far and then the same thing with braided hair and pants suits for women
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- That seems to be a big one And then baptism in Jesus name rather than the
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- Trinitarian Father Son and Holy Spirit And then lastly for me, this is even the biggest and that is the
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- Trinity. He flat outright rejects the Trinity So, how about this why don't you introduce yourself and then then we'll get into some of his clips and we'll respond one by one
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- Okay. Well, my name is brother Sam and I'm from Moby, Alabama, I Attended Kendra Murray's church back in from 2009 like the middle of 2012 so I left the ministry and as I as I left
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- I always Was had concerns about his teaching like every other year. I would hear his teachings and I would just reach out to him
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- I just said hey brother Let's let's sit down and discuss these things and you know He would always kind of just pull me off like hey, man
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- This what I believe, you know, you can either believe it or you can leave up. I'm believe the scriptures I said, well,
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- I believe the scriptures too, but I think it doesn't misunderstand about what we believe But here's the problem with him this is the problem with men like him that teach these things because they believe that I Can know he believed
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- I can't teach him though. So that just shows the very pride that's in him the pride for a proud spirit which
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- God does not like Abomination really and uh And I just want to get in touch up on these doctors that he's teaching because I believe they are critical to the body of Christ and people need to really have full understanding with these doctors mean and how they can be added to the
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- Gospel and very diminished the gospel of Jesus Christ Amen, brother.
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- So issue number one. Let me share this screen and we're gonna play video
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- Here From Him introducing you and then I'm gonna jump ahead to where he starts to make his biblical
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- Exposition to prove his point. So here's the now. Let me say concerning this first email.
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- I Am taking the time tonight To read this email not that I believe that I can be a help to this brother
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- Because I don't believe that but I am going to deal with his email
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- To help us To just show you the result show you the end result of Dibbling and dabbing in the spirit world
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- Okay, so he's gonna address you. I have a quick question for you, brother Are you dibbling and dabbing do you love to dibble and dab?
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- This seems to be a primary accusation against you. Is that you dibble and dab? Yeah. No, no, I don't
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- I don't understand. What do you mean right there first and first to start off? I never emailed him
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- So, I don't know if you don't understand Facebook messenger or Facebook comments versus Actual email so number one.
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- He's starting on wrongly. I'd never email you so that's not an email He read I don't even have his email address.
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- So that's a red flag already. We start now. So yeah, that's
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- Dibble and dab point so That's the purpose of me dealing with this email tonight, this is from Sam Brooks Sam used to attend service here
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- Sam attended here for a good while He hadn't seen
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- Sam now it's been some years But Sam attended service here for a good while and Sam was taught the
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- Word of God He was taught God's Word according to the Scripture But he loved to dibble and dabble out in the spirit world
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- That's what he loved to do all right, I'm gonna pause this here because he's gonna go on this kind of spree of Bashing you because all these number of things that he gets into but let's jump ahead
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- So we're not just wasting time. Let's jump right to his exposition of the first argument
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- Which is that one must speak in tongues in order to be saved.
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- So we're going to 12 25 On here. Actually, I'm gonna start at 16 because he's still on this dibble dabble point right here
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- That's what happened you go I had dibbling and dabbing in the spirit world This is what Sam writes
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- This is a false teaching now We was teaching how when they received the
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- Holy Ghost they speak with other tongue that the Spirit gave us That's what we was teaching. He writes.
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- This is a false teaching and everyone was speaking tongues Well a way to twist the
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- Scripture Paul made no distinction about tongues. It is a language and everybody won't speak that You're right
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- Everybody won't speak only them that receive the gift of the Holy Ghost You are right
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- Sam. Everybody won't speak it. That's why you hadn't spoken because you hadn't received the gift of the Holy Ghost You understand the
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- Bible said well, well he writes it is a language and Everybody won't speak that now y 'all.
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- Wait a minute Now what I want to do is look at the Bible and compare it to the writing of Sam Acts 2 and 1 son and when the day of Pentecost was fully come
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- Listen before we go to acts 2 and 1 give me Jesus in Luke 24 49 I Jesus gonna tell them where to go and what to do
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- They're gonna be told to go to a certain place and they got a weight on something There's something they got to wait on when they get there
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- Luke 24 49 said what and behold and behold I've seen the promise of my father.
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- I've seen the promise of what? The promise of what? Is that the
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- Holy Ghost? Is that the gift of the Holy Ghost I Send the promise of my father of all you but do what but Terry he in the city of Jerusalem Wait in Jerusalem.
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- Just wait right there. I'm gonna send the promise of my father What do you say son?
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- But Terry he in the city of Jerusalem right in Jerusalem until you be endued with power from on high
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- Go to Jerusalem, I'm gonna send the promise of my father. You wait right there till you receive this power
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- Is that what the Bible is saying? Give me acts 2 and 1 son and when the day of Pentecost was full of come.
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- All right They had Jerusalem They don't obey Jesus. They there and they're waiting
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- Acts 2 and 1 said what and when the day of Pentecost was fully come when the day of Pentecost was fully come
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- They were all with one accord in one place And suddenly there came a sound from heaven
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- There came a sound from heaven As of a rushing mighty wind As of a rushing mighty wind
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- And it filled all the house where they were sitting It filled all the house where they were sitting And there appeared unto them clothed in tongues
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- There appeared what? Clothed in tongues What did it say? It was like fire
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- And it sat upon each of them Upon how many?
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- And what happened to them? And they were all filled How many?
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- Filled with what? And what happened? And began to speak with other tongues
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- As the spirit gave them utterance How many was it? They were all filled
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- And what did they do? And began to speak with other tongues As what? As the spirit gave them utterance
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- How many received it? And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost And what did they begin to do? And began to speak with other tongues
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- As the spirit gave them utterance Is that in your Bible? Give me
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- Acts son Give me Acts chapter 10 Give me
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- Acts chapter 10 Let's start at verse 44 Let me talk you now Peter down here with some
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- Gentiles Acts 10 44 While Peter yet spake these words
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- The Holy Ghost fell on all of them Which heard the word All of them
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- All of them which heard the word The Holy Ghost Fell on all of them
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- Which heard the word And they of the circumcision which believed Were astonished As many as came with Peter Because that only
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- Gentiles Also was poured out the gift Of the Holy Ghost Of the Holy Ghost How do they know they got it?
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- For they heard them speak with tongues And magnify God Did y 'all
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- Bible say that? They heard them do what? Speak with tongues And magnify God Alright Now when they called
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- Peter's hand About preaching to these Gentiles Give me Acts 11 15
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- And let's see what Peter gonna say What did he say Grayson? And as I began to speak
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- Peter said as I began to speak To them Gentiles The Holy Ghost fell on them
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- How? As on us at the beginning Hold on Holy Ghost fell on them
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- The way Sam said As on us at the beginning As on us at the beginning
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- As on who? On us at the beginning Let's go back to the beginning Acts 2 and 4
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- As on us at the beginning Acts 2 and verse 4 Said what? And they were all filled with the
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- Holy Ghost And began to speak with other tongues As the Spirit gave them utterance
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- That's what happened at the beginning When he said as on us At the beginning They received the
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- Holy Ghost They spoke with tongues Peter testified that on them Gentiles The Holy Ghost was poured out on them
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- Just like it was on us at the beginning Did y 'all Bible say that? Alright Give me
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- Acts 19 son Start at verse 1 Give me Acts 19 and 1
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- What did it say? And it came to pass That while Apollos was at Korea Paul having passed through the upper coast
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- Came to Ephesus Came where? Read it son And finding certain disciples He said unto them Have you received the
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- Holy Ghost since you believed? Have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed? And they said unto him We have not so much as heard
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- Whether there be any Holy Ghost What did the Bible say son? What did he say?
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- Unto what then were you baptized? How were you baptized? And they said
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- Unto John's baptism Then said Paul John barely baptized with the baptism of repentance
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- Saying unto the people That they should believe on him That is on? And when they heard this?
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- And what happened? When Paul laid hands on them
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- The Holy Ghost came on them The Holy Ghost The Holy Ghost And what happened?
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- Did y 'all Bible say that? So when I read in the
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- Scripture Where it speaks plainly They received the
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- Holy Ghost They spake with tongue As a result of receiving the Holy Ghost That's what
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- I read In the Bible The only reason why a brother Or a sister will fight against this
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- Is because they have not had This experience It is no way you
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- Have had this experience And you're going to fight against the experience The reason you're fighting
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- You never spake with tongue By God Because you never received the Holy Ghost I don't trust the
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- Holy Ghost That's different than what I can read I don't trust receiving the
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- Holy Ghost Different than what I can read He writes
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- Kendrick Murray's teaching You must speak in tongues Or you're not saved
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- I teach the same thing these brothers Taught in his Bible And let me tell you something Sam I got it the same way they got it in the
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- Bible Do you understand? Look here, I can close the book I can close both of these books And Murray can testify to Sam And to the world
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- Let me tell you something I got it just like they got it I got it just like they received it
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- I was calling on the Lord Jesus Listen Sam I was tarrying Just like Jesus told them to go and tarry
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- Murray was tarrying In other words, I was waiting But while waiting
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- I was doing just like they was doing Praying I was praying, I was crying out to the
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- Lord Jesus And all of a sudden Something happened Something happened my
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- God Something got down in there And my mouth came open and I started talking In a language that Ella Murray did not understand
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- And from that day Until this one I could feel the presence of God I could feel the power of God on the inside Hallelujah to God I know what the prophet is talking about When he said it's like fire
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- Shut up in your box I know what the scripture is talking about Out of thy belly shall flow
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- Rivers of living water This ain't just ink on paper I experienced this back I feel this thing moving
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- If you ever had this experience You wouldn't be writing me stuff like this You wouldn't talk like this
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- You talk like this because you haven't had the experience Do you understand? My God, man, you don't need to be near a pool pit
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- You shouldn't be allowed to dust a pool pit Much less be in it Trying to preach to somebody Do you understand?
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- The Bible said, my God, you'll receive power After the Holy Ghost has come You ain't got no
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- Holy Ghost You ain't got no power Sit down somewhere My God, man, you're looking at you to run past the
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- Lord Give me talking now Alright Okay Is the only reason
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- Why you reject his teaching Because you haven't experienced What he's experienced
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- Or do you have another reason, brother? I believe The truth can cut him
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- That's what I believe He sounds real furious He's real furious
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- I can tell the scriptures I presented to him He can't refute them
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- So that's why he went Because he didn't even actually go to the actual Message that I really sent him
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- About the scriptures that show that You know, cases where People had received the
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- Holy Spirit And they didn't speak in tongues He never refuted that, he just went to With the doctrines that I just went with I guess thinking that he had
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- But he's But really, he's really fell in the trap Because I finished showing the scripture
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- That Paul That Paul did not make no distinction Between tongues Now he believed that There's a certain tongue you have to speak in On the day of Pentecost Now on the day of Pentecost But on the day of Pentecost They spoke in literal
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- Actually authentic tongues Languages Am I correct? Yeah, there's two views there
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- One is that the miracle was in the hearing And the other was that they were speaking Say, you know, the 17, 19
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- Different languages that Each person might be speaking one of those So I don't think that's even necessary To prove the point
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- But go ahead In either direction, go ahead Yeah, so I mean
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- The reason why I went to that point Because the tongues that they say God has moved upon them to speak in the church
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- First of all, if God moved Upon you to speak like that in the church There should be an interpreter There to bring out the understanding
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- But if you're just doing it Basically it's in vain It's no good So you're being disobedient
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- Your church is basically parroting After the Corinth church Which Paul rebuked
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- So how are you saying the Holy Spirit Moved upon you to speak And then the tongues that I heard them speak They're not tongues, man
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- They're not tongues It's just a bunch of babble Words that are not Basically Spoken clearly where you can understand
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- A real fluent language That's not the tongue they speak I heard them speak in tongues
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- It's just basically a lot of excitement Zeal and rush
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- About doing this But they haven't actually spoken the language Of an authentic language
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- So that's what I want to say But I want to get to what Peter What Peter was quoting
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- When Peter talked about on the day of Pentecost He was quoting The prophet Joel That's what
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- Peter was quoting I'm finna read what I wrote down On the day of Pentecost The apostle Peter quoted the prophet
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- Joel Chapter 2 verse 28 -32 Notice that Peter In regards to the
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- Holy Spirit Is speaking of a promise Just as Jesus spoke in John 14 -26 Nowhere in this passage
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- Do we read that Peter is saying That one must speak in tongues To show proof that the
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- Holy Spirit Has answered you He didn't teach that tongues is the Holy Spirit Peter is quoting the prophecy
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- Of Joel 2 -28 -32 And notice that Tongues is not mentioned in this passage
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- Nor do we find with the evidence Of speaking in tongues Because that's what they believe That this is the evidence
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- That God's spirit has answered you And I'm like Well man
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- Now he always Real eager about I believe chapter and verse
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- But he can't show no chapter and verse Where it say that So I mean
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- His understanding is off And in fact the scripture says Precisely the opposite In 1
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- Corinthians chapter 12 Verse 10 To another The working of miracles
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- To another prophecy To another the ability to distinguish Between spirits To another various kinds of tongues
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- To another the interpretation of tongues In the context which is by the way A very Trinitarian passage 1
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- Corinthians 12 Father, Son, and Spirit The apportionment of the gifts Different people receive different gifts
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- And not all receive each and every gift But the Lord apportions as He wills
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- That is the explicit teaching Of the scripture I think that one of the areas where Where Murray gets off on the wrong direction
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- Is a failure to understand The prescriptive and the descriptive Nature of the book of Acts So some of the things in Acts Are descriptive
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- In other words If you read Acts chapter 2 And you take the instruction
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- From Luke 24 This is descriptive Prescriptive of what
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- Jesus said To that group Of believers Now you can't just say that all of it
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- Is precisely prescriptive to us Otherwise Why is this
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- Murray Hanging out tarrying In Mobile, Alabama Shouldn't he be in Jerusalem?
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- Precisely prescriptive He should be tarrying in Jerusalem So you just can't make that one to one
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- Correspondence that everything in Acts Is prescriptive Whereas when you do get to the didactic portions
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- Of scripture, for example 1 Corinthians 12 When the church is being taught How to practice the spiritual gifts
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- In the body, things of that nature It does become prescriptive It's a teaching for the church
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- So what he's doing is he's taking the book Of Acts and trying to make it All prescriptive
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- But you know the thesis of Acts is Acts 1 -8 And the gospel is going to go from Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria And to the ends of the earth
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- And with each progress of the gospel To those places, you see a confirmation That the
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- Holy Spirit is also Welcoming that people group So he skipped over Acts 8 because it doesn't say Speaking in tongues, but in Acts 8
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- The apostles come down To confirm that Samaria Has experienced the same
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- Salvation When the apostles are there to witness it They in some way manifest
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- The spirit being given to them We don't know if it's speaking in tongues Or some other spiritual gift because it doesn't say
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- But it says That's kind of like the next stage It's going Acts 1 -8
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- From Jerusalem to Samaria And then it will go Acts 10 to Caesarea To Gentiles, but they're still in the land
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- Of Israel, and then finally The final stage is the ends of the earth In Ephesus, Acts chapter 19
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- So you see the progress of the gospel Descriptive, not necessarily Prescriptive the way
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- Murray takes it, so the verse I'm referring to Is Acts chapter 8 Verses 14 through 17
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- The apostles come down And this is in Samaria It says, verse 17
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- Then they laid their hands on them and they Received the Holy Spirit Now we'd have to assume
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- That there's some manifestation Of the spirit in order for people To notice that they've received the spirit
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- Otherwise it's just an invisible transaction You can't know that So it might have been speaking in tongues
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- But it might have been a different manifestation of the spirit The text doesn't tell us However, when
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- Simon saw this Of course, Simon, he wanted that gift Whoa, something powerful happened there That's where Simon comes in, he wants to buy it
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- Yeah Yeah, that's true And see Paul In the same chapter 1
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- Corinthians chapter 12 As we go down Paul was speaking on Asking a rhetorical question
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- And he was asking 1 Corinthians chapter 12 Verse 29 And verse 30 and 31
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- He reads, are all apostles? No, the answer would be no Are all prophets?
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- No Are all teachers? No Are all workers of miracles? The answer is no
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- Do all have the gifts of healings? The answer is no Do all speak with tongues?
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- The answer is no Do all interpretate tongues? No And now he'll take this scripture
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- And try to say Well, you know This was a gift of tongues This is the language
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- But the other tongue is the evidence No, no, Paul did not teach that Paul did not make any distinction about tongues
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- Matter of fact, 1 Corinthians chapter 14 Is the chapter that you need to get A better understanding of all tongues
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- Paul taught a whole chapter on tongues Told you how it needs to be done Everything, so we're gonna go there
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- Matter of fact, I'll tell you what We can go there now 1 Corinthians chapter 14
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- Yes sir, we can go there now Verse 27 and 28 I think he wants to keep the conversation emotional
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- It's based on experience If you had experience, we can put the book down Well no, we don't put the book down We pick the book up And we say, as Bereans, what does the word of God say?
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- We don't care about your experience Your experience doesn't mean anything to me I want to see it in the word
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- So yes Amen 1 Corinthians chapter 14
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- Verse 27 and 28 If anyone speaks in a tongue Let there be two or at the most three
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- Each in turn And let one interpretate But if there is no interpreter
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- Let him keep silent in the church And let him speak to himself and to God See this is the order right here
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- I haven't seen this in the Pentecostal, apostolic, holiness church They don't teach this
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- What they do is everybody get up And start speaking in tongues And have this whole
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- Outburst of tongues And it's confusing, it's the very thing that Paul taught not to do
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- Matter of fact, we can go to verse Let's move up a little bit Go to verse 23 Paul said
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- Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place And all speak with tongues And there come in those who are
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- Uninformed or unbelievers Will they not say that you are out of your mind And I'm telling you man
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- When you see everybody up speaking in tongues That is confusion And the unbeliever coming in and saying
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- Man what is this, this some kind of circus I mean no man It brings no understanding
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- You know it's confusion So that's why Paul said don't do this This is wrong And you know when you see this man
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- I mean people walk around and say Oh yeah I got it, I got the Holy Ghost No, the evidence of the
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- Holy Ghost Is that you have the fruit of the spirit Which Jesus talked about I'm going to go to Matthew Chapter 7,
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- I just want to give you some understanding Matthew chapter 7 I feel like teaching
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- I feel like See Kenzie don't think he can learn Enough from me, but Kenzie I'm going to teach you today
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- You can learn something from me brother Don't put your pride down You can learn something from me Matthew chapter 7 verse 18 and 20
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- We're going to go there Jesus said it like this A good tree cannot
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- Bear bad fruit Nor can a bad tree bear good fruit Every tree that does not bear
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- Good fruit is cut down and thrown Into the fire Therefore By their fruits you will know them
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- You see that? Not about a tome, but their lifestyle You're going to know the tree
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- By what fruit it is, but you're going to know that person By the life that they're living That's what Jesus is talking about And we can go to Galatians chapter 5 where Paul correlates that with What Jesus is saying, we'll go there real fast
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- Galatians chapter 5 Paul is preaching the same thing
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- Galatians chapter 5 Verse 22 And it reads, but the fruit of the
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- Spirit is Love, joy, peace Long -suffering, kindness Goodness, faithfulness
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- Gentleness, self -control These are the fruits These are the attributes of the
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- Spirit This is what's going to be manifest in you And you're going to walk it out This is going to be shown
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- They're going to see that in you, that's the Christ in you That's going to be manifest right there That is the evidence that you are saved
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- Not because you just spoke in tongues Because I done heard a lot of them speak in tongues And yet they be so mean
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- And hateful Look at him, look at how he talk He can quote the Bible front and back
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- But he's so angry Just furious Like, why are you so mad?
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- Let's sit down and discuss these doctrines He always tell me, I'm through with that I don't want to talk about that What pastor will say something like that?
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- How many times we had a discussion I want to see what you're talking about Let's discuss, let's see what you're talking about Let's get into the word and see what the word of God says
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- But your pride won't let you do that Because you believe I can't teach you And that's where you're wrong there, brother
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- In 1 John The apostle had the chance to say Speaking in tongues is evidence of salvation
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- He didn't, he said love of the brother He said the fruit The life that you live
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- He talked about faith, a number of tests And it was never speaking in tongues Yeah, right
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- And I wanted to show the people The audience That those are going to be listening
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- That's following him or in his church Because he said in one of his videos Show me a scripture
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- Where when the whole of those fell on somebody They didn't speak in tongues I'm going to show you some scriptures
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- I got more than one, I got many right here I'm just going to read a few Let's start at Acts chapter 2
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- Acts chapter 2 Acts chapter 2
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- Verse 40 and 41 Make sure Make sure that's where we at 40 and 41
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- Okay, and it reads And with many other words He testified and exhorted them saying
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- Be safe from this perverse generation Then those who gladly received His word were baptized
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- And that day about 3 ,000 Souls were added to the church Now right there
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- Did it say they spoke in tongues right there? No They was added to the church
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- God added them to the church When they believe the Lord That's it, the
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- Lord has granted them salvation It's there That's what the scripture is saying
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- It didn't have to go off and say Yeah, yeah, it's going to say Nah, nah, that's right there
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- Showing that they are believers They was added to the church When you added to the church You're a believer That's what he's saying right there
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- We can move down to 46 46 and 47 Okay, Acts chapter 2
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- Verse 46, 47 So continuing daily with one accord In the temple and breaking bread
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- From house to house They ate their food and gladness And simplicity of the heart
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- Praising God and having favor With all the people And the Lord added to the church daily
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- Those who were being saved You see that? Did it say
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- They spoke in tongues? No, I didn't read that right there And we can go to Acts We just move on,
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- Acts chapter 8 I mean, I'm sorry, Acts chapter 4 I want to give people these scriptures
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- So they can go back and read it themselves Because he didn't read these scriptures He ain't going to read these to you
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- See, I'm going to give you all of it What does it say? Total scriptura, all the scriptures
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- Jesus said, man shall not live by bread alone But by every word that proceed Out of the mouth of God We take all the scriptures, not jumping from here
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- And there trying to complete your doctrine You got to deal with all the scriptures All of it in its totality Okay, Acts chapter 4
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- Verse 8 Okay, hold on, I'm sorry Did I say 4? Okay Yeah, Acts chapter 4
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- Verse 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit Said to them
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- Rulers of the people and elders of Israel If we this day are judged For a good deed done
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- To a helpless man By what means he has been made well
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- Let it be known To you all and to all the people of Israel That by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Whom you have crucified
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- Whom God raised from the dead By him this man stands here before you So right then and there
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- The Holy Spirit came upon Peter And Peter spoke the truth Healed this man
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- This man was made whole So when the Holy Spirit fall on people It's going to cause you to do a lot of things
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- It may cause you to speak tongues To somebody in their language It may cause you to prophesy
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- It may cause you to heal somebody It may cause you to raise somebody from the dead Whatever, it can do a lot of things
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- It ain't just limited to no tongue When the Holy Spirit fall on somebody It was preaching
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- The Spirit fell on him, it was preach When the Spirit fell It does not say anything about speaking in tongues
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- He actually spoke intelligibly Proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ That was the filling of the
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- Spirit Amen, right, that's right there The proof right there when he spoke that truth Let's go to Acts chapter 5
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- Verses 13 and 14 Yet none of the rest
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- Dare join them But the people esteemed them highly And believers were increasingly Added to the
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- Lord Multiple of both men and women See right there Standing right there, people was added
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- To the Lord, men and women When they didn't stop and say But they spoke in tongues, no
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- It was added to the church If the Lord wanted us to know that, he would have said that in his word Because this is
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- We're dealing with salvation Paul would have taught that He would have said, listen, in order for you to be saved
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- You're going to have to speak in tongues He would have made that clear, abundantly clear He didn't do that He didn't make no distinction with the tongues
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- That he said, because matter of fact, Paul said I spoke in more tongues than all of you And see,
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- Paul had the gift of speaking Many different languages because he had to go out And minister to different nationalities
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- He had to have that gift And that's what the rest of them had to do too Because they're going to have to bring this gospel to the world
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- But we got to know how to speak in these four languages That's why God did all this That's just the power of God His work is miracles
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- We'll go to Acts chapter 6 I got a few more to read And then we'll move on Acts chapter 6, verse 7
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- Okay Then it says, then the word of God spread And the number of the disciples multiplied
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- Greatly in Jerusalem And a great many of the priests were obedient To the faith You see that?
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- The number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem The Lord just added to his church daily
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- I mean, when the word comes forth This is what happens So we can move on to Acts chapter 7
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- Acts chapter 7 Verses 55 and 56 This is
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- Stephen right here I love this one right here Yeah, this is dealing with Stephen right here
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- Acts chapter 7, verse 55 and 56 Okay And it reads
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- But he being full of the Holy Ghost Full of the Holy Spirit Gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God And Jesus standing at the right hand of God And said
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- Look, I see the heavens open And the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God Look at that Look at the
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- Holy Spirit coming up on Stephen You know, filling him with the Spirit He looked up there and seen the
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- Father and the Son Right there in heaven Seen them And that's what made the people mad, they wanted to stone him
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- He spoke that truth And they were mad after that They were like, we've got to kill him now That was the truth, the
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- Holy Spirit spoke up Moved upon him, and see that's what the Holy Spirit will do When he comes upon us
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- He makes us speak the truth That cannot be refuted You can't, the truth is solid
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- You know, it's sound You can't touch it, all people can do is get mad And angry, that's all they can do
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- But they can't do nothing with it That's why I like the truth, it doesn't matter how Convincing and strong they may sound
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- It doesn't matter How confident they may sound When the truth is spoken It cuts
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- It's sharp Like a knife, like a sword Hebrews 4 .12
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- Now let me interject here, I can imagine a listener Or maybe Murray himself saying See Sam, this is an argument from silence
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- Just because the Bible Doesn't say that they spoke in tongues Doesn't prove that they didn't speak in tongues
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- But actually the reverse is true Because Murray is making the argument That salvation requires speaking in tongues
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- And then There's no argument for that Paul doesn't say such things In the book of Acts you can cherry pick
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- The occasions of speaking in tongues And use that to say All, as if What Acts 2 had to say with all
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- Meant all people, all Christians of all time To make it prescriptive rather than descriptive But the argument from silence
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- Is actually in Murray's court He would need to prove That speaking in tongues is essential for salvation
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- But I just want to interject and say To make that claim Contrary to scripture is a big deal
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- Like it's anathema According to the book of Galatians Remember what Paul said to the
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- Galatians They were adding one thing To salvation, circumcision You have to be circumcised
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- In order to be saved So he Judaized the gospel by adding one thing How much more to add speaking in tongues
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- As a requirement for salvation It goes directly against sola fide That salvation is by faith alone
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- So it's really What he's saying It's a big deal This is according to Paul Galatians 1, 6 -9
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- This is anathema Amen, that's true I mean I know he's doing it probably
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- Ignorantly but Him being a pastor and you being a shepherd Over God's flock
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- You're required to know these things It shouldn't have to take A brother as myself
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- Coming in but it's just A part of being a Berean Studying I don't know the guys in this church
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- They don't study like that I'm pretty sure a lot of them got questions for him But they probably won't ask him
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- But while I was there I questioned his teaching I questioned it because I don't care
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- I'm following the Lord Jesus Christ And I don't care how convincing you may sound Or how strong and confident you may
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- Preach a word If it ain't aligning with the scripture And it must be rightly divided of course You can't just, let's see what he'll do
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- He'll go around and quote scriptures Now you can do that sometimes But all the time you can't do that because A lot of those scriptures mean something else
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- You have to read that whole chapter To get the very understanding of what he's saying
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- Amen For the sake of time, I think the point has been Fully established from the scripture
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- Can we move on to the next arguments That he makes? I'll play this screen share
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- Divorce and remarriage Braided hair And then we'll maybe get into Baptism in Jesus name
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- Finally the Trinity Let's take at least a couple of these Just so that we're able to keep it moving
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- Okay, that'll work Alright I'm going to share this screen
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- And see if I can Get it to play
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- Got it freezing up on me Alright, ready? He said the teachings of Kendrick Mercer Can't divorce and remarry
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- Now listen Now this brother was here And this brother was taught the word of God But this is the result of giving and nagging
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- Out in the spirit world Now he's being critical Of what we teach from the bible
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- He said can't divorce and remarry Ain't that something? This is the result of Dibbling and diving in the spirit world
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- This is where his mind is at now Do you understand? Hear me talking
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- Brothers and sisters It's like the bible says Don't be tossed and driven with every wind of darkness
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- Because you hear all this junk being taught Come back to the bible Do you understand?
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- Yes, yes we teach That you can't go and divorce And remarry someone else
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- We teach that We're not the same We're not the same
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- If you divorce Hallelujah to God Let me change that If you want to divorce and remarry
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- Alright, if you're to divorce By God, your first companion You can remarry her
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- Do you hear what I said? If you're to divorce your first companion You can remarry her
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- But you can't remarry no one else Do you understand? 1 Corinthians 7 and 10
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- Hear me talking now 1 Corinthians 7 and verse number 10 You want to divorce and remarry
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- Alright, if you're to divorce your first companion By God, they're going back and remarrying By God in God's eyes
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- She was yours the whole time 1 Corinthians 7 and 10 said what? Unto the marriage
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- I command Yet not I But the Lord Let not the wife depart from her husband
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- Let not the wife do what? Depart from her husband Let not the wife depart What did it say, son?
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- But if something take place Well, she just gotta depart
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- Something done took place She got to go What the Bible said? Let her remain unmarried
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- No, no racism That ain't what Sam said That ain't what Sam said
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- The Bible said let her Get her another one Let her get her another one
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- Remain unmarried Let her do what, racism? Let her remain unmarried
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- Or be reconciled to her husband Alright, you divorce your husband By your first husband
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- You can remarry him, but no one else The Bible said, read that again And unto the marriage
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- I command Yet not I but the Lord What did it say, son? Let not the wife depart from her husband But if she depart
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- Let her remain unmarried Or be reconciled to her husband Let me tell you something
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- Paul ain't teaching no different than what Jesus is You understand? He said, except maybe for fornication
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- If fornication been committed You can divorce him You can get away from him
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- My God, man, you can depart from him But if you want companionship If you got to have a man
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- Or if you got to have a woman You're going to be reconciled back to your same companion Paul ain't teaching different than what
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- Jesus said Do you understand? Yes, my God, in fornication My God, man, have taken place
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- If they out there sleeping around him or her Yes, you can divorce them You don't have to stay in that But my
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- God, man, if you got to have companionship First correct their seven and ten Or be reconciled to her husband
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- Or do what? Or do what? To who?
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- I don't care what Sam Mouth said I'm stuck in the word of God Now stay with your churches out there
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- Where you can divorce your wives My God, man, divorce your husband You see, they like it out there
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- They like They like churches like that You understand? My God, man, you can do like you want to do
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- You can do what you want to do You understand? You understand that some church, some false prophet Will justify you and whatever you want to do
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- But not here Here, we're going to the book We're stuck in the book over here Do you understand?
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- I done had these conversations with brothers Who believe they can divorce their wives And get them another companion
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- Women who believe they can divorce their husbands And get them another companion And let me tell you something
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- Let me tell you something It's never ending with this stuff It depends on What group you talk to They come from a different angle
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- One group said, well, we wasn't Saved when we got married So therefore
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- Being we wasn't saved when we got married Now I'm in the Lord I can go marry me a man that's in the
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- Lord Or I can marry me a woman in the Lord Only one problem My God, the Bible said marriage is honorable
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- In all God honors sinners marriage Just like he honors saints marriage
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- Do you understand? In the world you got married You still bound to that man
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- You married in the world Do you understand? Others come along and say, well, Murray It's an unequal yoke
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- I hear all this foolishness All this foolishness Others come along and say, Murray He said accepted me for fornication
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- You see, I heard one preacher He tried to present it to me That even if He said he called it spiritual fornication
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- Spiritual In other words, if the man leave truth And go out in falsehood
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- He called that spiritual fornication That's grounds to get a divorce And the sister that's still in the church
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- Ain't gonna marry somebody else that's in the church I'm telling you, this stuff is never ending It's depending on what
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- Group you talk to My God, man, the bottom line All these folks got these folks living in a yoke
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- That's the bottom line I asked a preacher Out of New York When he started preaching this foolishness
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- I asked him this question He said accepted me for fornication This is the question
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- I asked I said, so let me get this right I said, if I go out
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- And See a woman That I'm attracted to And this is the way
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- I put it to him I said, I see a woman that I'm attracted to I said, if I go late
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- With that woman I said, that broke Sister Murray And Elder Murray's Marriage vow
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- I said, so now, does it free her To go and remarry Or does it free both of us to remarry
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- He said, it frees both He said, both of you are free I saw a woman
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- I was Attracted to, I went and laid with her So that freed Sister Murray and Elder Murray I asked him,
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- I said, now Can I marry the woman now That I slept with Because I was attracted to her
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- He said, well, I suppose you can So I'm free now
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- I can go ahead and marry that woman And look, he was saying It's okay in the eyes of God Because the marriage vow been broken
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- I'm a free man, I can marry That woman that I laid with And it's okay with the
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- Lord And Sister Murray can go and marry Someone else also, but I didn't Stop there with it
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- I said, okay I said, I see another sister
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- The third one I said, I'm sure enough attracted To her now She sure enough got my eyes
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- I said, if I go Late with her Do that break the marriage vow To the second companion
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- He said, yeah I said, so now Me and the second
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- Companion is free to marry again Yes I said, so now the woman
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- That I slept with, the second The third one rather The third one, I said, now
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- I can marry her He said, now God know your heart now
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- God know your heart I said, no, no, I want to know Can I marry her now that I'm a free man
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- He said, well, God know your heart You can't trick God, but I guess so Do y 'all hear me?
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- I had this conversation with a preacher out of New York Who started preaching that same joke So all we gotta do
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- Get in a church like that You're tied up, bruh
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- Do you understand? Go lay with this one You're free Tell the Lord, look, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna go ahead and marry her
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- It's alright with God Because she's a free man Take this Take that doctrine
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- And flush it down the toilet Flush it, and flush the toilet Twice, so it don't come back up That's a bunch of junk
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- Do you understand? That's a bunch Yes, Sam, we teach you can't divorce And go and remarry
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- While your first companion is alive Why we teach it? Because that's what we read out the
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- Bible Now stay with your churches that let you live any kind of way He goes on to say
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- Number three He's talking about marriage teachings now And look y 'all, this is what he's posting A brother that attended here for a long period of time
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- A brother that attended here for a long period of time Alright, what do you say, Sam? Yeah, I wanna deal with the Divorce and remarriage
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- Oh man, because There's people in this church, man, that You know, have been out in the world
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- You know And I'm just gonna pose a question to you Let's just say you was out in the world, right?
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- You was out there living your life, you know Living the life of the devil, you know Chasing women and all that You met a woman out there in the world
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- Now both of y 'all are not Christians Y 'all are sinners Y 'all two done got married
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- Y 'all done divorced in the world You done went on with your life, she done went on with her life You know, you done came on to Christ And gave your life to Christ You know, you even got saved and everything
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- According to his doctrine He said that It doesn't matter since you done got saved
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- It doesn't matter no more because Your wife is still living, so you still Bound until death do you part
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- Now let me ask you a question, Pastor Yeah When you came to the Lord, did the
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- Lord Just forgive, you know A few of your sins, or did he forgive All of them? What I read is that the entire code
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- Of law that was against me Was nailed to the cross It's under his blood Amen, so the
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- Lord just didn't forgive A person, you know, just for all the Other sins, self of marriage, of remarriage and divorce
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- Now I'm gonna hold that against you But these other sins I forgive you from, that don't even Make any sense, so when a person
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- Has come to the Lord, you're being washed By the blood of Jesus Christ You are forgiven for your sins
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- You done moved on from that But now I wanna just deal with it a little bit Because I know it's a dangerous thing
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- And I do wanna treat it, because there is some truth To that now, being bound by the law And I understand that with marriage
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- But I wanna just deal with the part that Jesus gave The exception clause, you know He gave you a choice, you know, right here
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- This is your choice, now we can go to Matthew chapter 19 And we'll read verses 1 -9
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- Okay, and it says It reads, it says, now it came To pass when Jesus had finished these sins
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- That he departed from Galilee And came to the region Of Judea Beyond the
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- Jordan, and great multitudes Followed him, and he healed them He healed them there
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- The Pharisees also came to him Testing him, and saying to him Is it lawful for a man
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- To divorce his wife for just any reason? Okay, and Jesus Responds and says
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- And he said to them Have you not read that he Who made them at the beginning
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- Made them male and female, and said For this reason a man Should leave his father and mother
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- And shall be joined to his wife And the two shall become One flesh, so then they are
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- No longer two But one flesh, therefore what God Has joined together, let not man
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- Separate, then they said to him Okay, when They said
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- Why did Moses command To give a certificate of divorce And to put his own wife
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- Away He said unto them Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts Permitted you to divorce your wives
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- But from the beginning it was not so And I say to you Whosoever divorces his wife
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- Except for the sexual Immorality or for fornication And marries another commits adultery
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- And whoever Marries her who is divorced Commits adultery Okay, so right there
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- Jesus Gave you, okay From the beginning, God made them Male and female and joined them together
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- Don't let nobody separate y 'all So yeah, of course, in the beginning God put you together
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- You're together They'll do you part I'm going to say it like this
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- In a case Like this, a sexual immorality Case of fornication or adultery
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- You have the choice to Jesus gave you this choice Either forgive her and be reconciled
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- Or you can move on Because if you think about that, man That is a hard thing That's a challenging thing to just say
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- Okay, I know what I do, I'll forgive my wife You can't say that because That's why Jesus left that right there
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- That could be your choice Because that could be a struggle on that person They got to deal with What you doing out there behind their back
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- Because you didn't commit adultery You didn't broke a trust, you know You didn't broke a covenant
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- And it had to be a struggle Okay, I'll make this exception for you You can move on And you can remarry somebody
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- It's got to be for this reason It's got to be for this cause Of fornication or adultery That's the option that he gave
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- And now I'm going to read 1
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- Corinthians Because Paul just basically picked up What Jesus left off And he just elaborated more
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- On the The clause, you know, the deception clause So we go to 1 Corinthians chapter 7
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- And we'll start at verse 15 1 Corinthians chapter 7
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- And verse 15 Okay, and it reads
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- But if the unbeliever departs Let me start at verse 14 For an unbelieving husband
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- Is sanctified by his wife And an unbelieving wife is sanctified by her husband Otherwise your children would be unclean
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- But now they are holy But if the unbeliever departs Let him depart
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- A brother or a sister Is not under bondage in such cases So So right there
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- If a brother Let's just say a brother Get up and leave his wife
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- This could be a Christian brother Now let's say a Christian brother Get up and leave his wife And first According to 1
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- Timothy chapter 5 verse 8 He has denied the faith And he's worse than an infidel He's worse than a sinner
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- So you're an unbeliever According to scripture The believer has the right to move on And marry
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- He said you're not under bondage in such cases You're not bound to that marriage in such cases like that You can move on You're free from that law
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- In a case like that That's what Paul is teaching He's teaching the same thing
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- Jesus taught In Matthew chapter 19 Those are the exceptions Like 1
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- Timothy chapter 5 verse 8 A brother denied the faith He's worse than an infidel You have the right to move on If you are
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- If you just came into the world If you was in the world And you came to know Christ And your wife
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- She may just be You know y 'all have both got saved Or she probably wasn't saved And y 'all was married together
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- And you still having to give your life to Christ But she's still an unbeliever And she wanted to leave you
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- Paul said you're not under bondage in that Let her move on And if she don't want to be with you
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- It's cool, let her move on But you're not bound to that marriage Now he said that not the unbeliever want to stay
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- He or she do want to stay Then you keep them You don't run them off But now they leave and abandon you
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- Then you're not bound to that I mean where's the mercy at You know what I'm saying Like brother we're talking about Jesus Christ the merciful
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- You know mercy endures forever I mean how in the world can a man Teach something like that And now you got people
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- I mean one caller calling at his church And they was saying You know the man he felt he just sounded sad
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- And can you tell him According to scripture I think he had been married a couple times
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- And his wife was still living He told that man according to the scripture You're still bound by that marriage
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- Because your wife's still living So he had to divorce the wife That he was with right Went back and got with the old wife
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- I'm like what kind of confusion is this And you know that's the stuff people take And it's just so disheartening
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- When I hear this stuff Because my concern is for the people I don't care about what he's saying
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- I want to tell the truth about the word And people need to be free from that Because that is confusion of the scripture
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- It is In fact all you got to do is go back one chapter From the point he was making in 1 Corinthians 7
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- Which had some valid aspects to it But 1 Corinthians 6 9 to 11 Or do you not know 1
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- Corinthians 6 Talks about all manner of sexual immorality So you could say somebody who was an adulterer
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- Or someone who was never married Just sleeping around But then this person comes to get saved It says this is 1
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- Corinthians 6 9 to 11 Do you not know that the unrighteous Will not inherit the kingdom of God Do not be deceived
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- Neither the sexually immoral Nor idolaters nor adulterers Nor men who practice homosexuality
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- Nor thieves nor the greedy Nor drunkards nor revilers nor swindlers Will inherit the kingdom of God And such
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- Were some of you But you were washed You were sanctified
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- You were justified In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God Hallelujah It's a washing, it's a cleansing
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- Someone who had been in the world Sleeping around, committing adultery A number of different things The blood of Christ is powerful enough to cleanse from all unrighteousness
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- Amen Praise the Lord That's a powerful scripture That's a good one Let's move on to braided hair
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- Because now we're getting into some crazy legalism here A misunderstanding of the scripture Right Let's do this because We want to try to keep this video within a couple hours
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- I think We got to keep it moving I don't want to be late for it, you're right
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- It's important stuff This is gospel right here These are gospel issues
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- So let me hit play And actually
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- I'm going to move this up to about I think 32 is where he gets into that So we'll see Somewhere in here
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- This is what you're dealing with here Do you understand? I'm not walking on another preacher heels
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- I'm teaching what the Bible said It said not with braided hair Try this again
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- We teach what we can read Do you understand? Verse 10 in chapter 2 Verse 9 said what?
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- That women In modest apparel
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- In what else? And Not with I teach what the
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- Bible said They said not with They said not with Do you understand? You're dealing with decorative
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- You're dealing with the decoration here Just like in the old times Some of them wore braided garments
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- Which was decorated garments You're dealing with decoration here This is what you're dealing with here Do you understand?
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- I'm not walking on another preacher heels I'm teaching what the Bible said It said not with braided hair
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- I teach exactly what I read out that Bible I don't care what Sam Brooks or nobody else mouth The Bible said what?
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- Not with braided hair Or gold Or pearls Or costly
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- He said women wearing pants Give me Deuteronomy 22 Give me talking
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- Deuteronomy chapter 22 It doesn't matter to me what you believe Give me talking You did the right thing
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- Go on out there and find a church that will believe what Sam believed You understand? Whatever y 'all choose to believe
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- Deuteronomy 22 Said what? Pants Originally it was a man's garment
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- It was a man's garment Search it Do your homework It was a man's garment
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- Time fell me to go back into the history of it Why they came about It was for a man not for a woman
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- The Bible said that all things be done decently and in order All you got to do is have some decency
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- It is not appropriate for a woman To have some garment on That's showing every cut and every groove she got
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- It's not Give me talking My God man Elder Murray is very confident
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- And proud of what we're teaching from this Bible Give me talking He goes on to say
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- Uh If you haven't been baptized Alright What do you have to say about that Sam Oh man
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- Just keep getting better Keeps on giving
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- Lord I'll tell you I'm going to go read 1
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- Peter chapter 3 In verse 3 and 4 I wrote something down for that It says
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- Do not let your adornment be merely outward Or arranging the hair Wearing gold or putting on fine apparel
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- Rather let Rather let it be the hidden person of the heart With the incorruptible beauty
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- Of a gentle and quiet spirit Which is in the very precious sight of God Okay Now I wrote right here
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- Peter was not Peter was not here condemning women Or plaiting their hair Wearing gold or jewelry
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- And wearing nice apparel or clothing His condemnation was with the women Who was putting more attention
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- On the outer appearance Rather than making sure the inner man The Christ in you be the ornament
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- That shines and reflects Jesus Christ This is what Peter was saying Peter wasn't teaching that He was telling you not to braid your hair
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- You can't put on no jewelry You can't wear expensive clothing You know
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- I mean I'm trying to see how is he coming with this But I understand where this comes from Because I did some research
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- On the men that he came up under He's the man that he followed One of them was named
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- Apostle Bishop L. Hunter And all of them had a strange teaching
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- About Jesus Christ the Godhead He had a crazy teaching about You can't divorce and remarry
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- Women can't wear pants They got to wear long dresses Looking like Muslims I mean just legalism
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- That's all it is And all these guys names started with Okay the guy
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- Bishop L. Hunter His name was Apostle The other one And he set up under this guy
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- Bishop L. Hunter And the other guy Apostle Pastor Gino Jennings Leader, teacher, guide, general overseer
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- The almighty God The whole truth Gino Jennings You know he corrupt
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- I've been trying to bring that guy to a debate For a couple years now He ain't going to debate nobody
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- He wants me to walk in there and act crazy Yeah And then
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- I think the other guy Now the other guy Gino Jennings Followed was Apostle Bishop F .C.
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- Johnson And the other guy was Apostle Bishop Randolph Goodwin All these men denied the son of God See this is the teaching he came up under And so it makes sense why he still
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- Hold on to these doctrines Although the Lord was merciful to him To give him the gospel of Jesus Christ Open his eyes up to see the gospel of Jesus Christ Can't remember what you should have done
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- You should have went back and searched the rest of these doctrines You should have examined the rest of these teachings Any man that stood up on a teaching
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- Where they denied the son of God I have to examine all his teachings Because man And then they hold the title apostle
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- Man these men ain't no apostles Not like the apostles of Christ You're on to the last section now
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- Baptism in Jesus name And then finally the trinity Let's play that and then we'll finish it up You'll have some time to respond to all that Is that cool?
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- Okay that'll work Alright You're still in your sins
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- He's got a problem With baptism in the name Of Jesus Christ To my knowledge
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- I can't remember We've been baptized so many But now
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- He's speaking now Against baptism He's saying now That This is
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- Murray Beliefs he's writing He said he believed You haven't been If you haven't been baptized in Jesus name
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- You're still in your sins The Bible said that This is the result of Dibbling and dabbling in the spirit world
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- The Bible said that Give me Acts 2 .38 Give me
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- Acts 2 .38 Then Acts 22 .16 Acts 2 .38 said what? Then Peter said unto them
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- Repent and be baptized Repent and be baptized Every one of you how?
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- In the name of Jesus Christ In the name of Jesus Christ In what name?
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- In the name of Jesus Christ For what? For the remission of sins
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- So if you're baptized In the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins If you haven't been
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- Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ It's your sins removed The Bible said repent and be baptized
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- In the name of Jesus Christ For the remission of your sins So that lets us know
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- If you don't do this Your sins have not been removed This is a result of Dibbling and dabbling in the spirit world
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- And can you imagine Someone talking like this In a pulpit They shouldn't allow him to have pledge
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- And a dust rag To dust it Do you understand You shouldn't be allowed to dust a pulpit
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- You shouldn't even get that close to Number four he writes
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- Denies the trinity He went deep did he
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- Denies the trinity Listen to what he writes y 'all Denies the trinity
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- For God he Then he got in parenthesis Father son and holy ghost This is a state of confusion
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- Elder Murray Do not I'm going to say it again Elder Murray do not deny the
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- God he Do you understand I preach the God he I deny the trinity
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- Because it's not in the book Do you understand But the trinity
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- Is not the God he I'm going to say that again
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- The trinity is not the God he Trinity is not in the bible The God he
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- Is in one place You don't know what you're talking about Do you understand you should have struck around And let somebody teach you
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- Colossians chapter 2 Colossians chapter 2 And start at verse number 9 son
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- All I get it You don't understand I deny the trinity So now apparently
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- He said Sam is a trinitarian He said
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- I deny the trinity So now he's a trinitarian Do you understand Hallelujah to God And you know what y 'all
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- I try to be As Paul said I try to Comprehend with all things I try to I have ignored this brother for a long time
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- For a long time He's been riding foolishness on our side For a long time And I have ignored him
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- But I said to Someone about a week ago I said you know what The Lord is showing me
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- I'm going to have to deal with I'm going to have to let folks I'm going to have to introduce Sam to the world
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- Do you understand That way you that are Communicating with him and his foolishness
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- You know what you're dealing with You know what you're dealing with Let me talk The last time
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- The brother reached out to me This has been maybe the beginning of this year Or last year
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- I can't remember when it was After a lot of foolishness He had been riding He reached out to me he called
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- And he requested To meet with me To discuss what he believed
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- I don't have that kind of time I am the Bible Told me to shake the dust off my feet
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- I You was here and you was taught The word of God Now you know
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- I had many meetings with this brother When he was a part of this ministry Many meetings with him
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- Trying to get him to understand the scripture Now you know went out there and got tied up In all this foolishness
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- Now you want to come and share your beliefs With me and you want me to sit And listen to that nonsense
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- I don't have that kind of time I told him very humbly I said listen brother
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- I said At the end of the day You believe what you believe
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- And I believe what I can read I said There's no use in you and I Sitting down And you trying to show me
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- Your beliefs You don't need my validations Do you understand
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- Whoever is teaching you Go get them to validate But I'm not fixing to waste time
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- Going back and forth with you With no trinitary belief Divorcing and remarrying
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- And against Or saying you ain't got to be baptized In the name of Jesus Christ Man you was taught this stuff
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- For years while you was here And now I'm going to Sit and go back and forth with you about it
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- There's too many people that Want the truth For me to waste time with them
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- Who simply want to waste my time I don't have That kind of time
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- I told him brother I'm not interested I said at the end of the day
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- You believe what you believe I said and I believe what we can read out the Bible God bless you
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- But he kept writing He kept writing Do you understand And a person that keeps doing this
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- It lets you know they're not comfortable Within their own self They're not He writes denies the trinity
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- Or Godhead Give me the Godhead some Colossians chapter 2 In that verse 9 where did it say
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- For in him Give me verse 7 who is this talking about Rooted and built up in him
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- In Jesus Christ where did it say Established in faith Start in verse 6 where did it say As ye have therefore received
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- Christ Jesus This is who this is talking about Christ Jesus Jesus Christ Where did it say
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- The Lord So walk ye in him Rooted and built up in him
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- Established in the faith As ye have been taught As you have You have been taught
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- Sam was taught Abounding therein with thanksgiving Beware Abounding therein
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- In giving thanks That you've been taught the word of God Beware Lest any man
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- Spoil you Beware Lest any man spoil you
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- Through philosophy And vain deceit After the tradition of men
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- Of men That's where your trinity come from It's simply a man's tradition It's not bible
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- It's the tradition of a man Where did it say son After the rudiments of the world
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- And not after Christ What did it say In Christ Dwelleth all the fullness of the
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- Godhead Body In him That's in Christ In Jesus Christ In the son of God Dwelleth all the fullness of what
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- Of the Godhead body All the Godhead Is in Jesus Do you understand
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- Don't say You know I deny the
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- Godhead All the Godhead Is in the son of God Jesus Christ That's who I preach
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- I deny the trinity because it's not in the bible Number five
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- He writes He believes Talking about Murray He believes that Jesus was a creature
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- I don't know where he's coming from With this He believes Jesus was a creature And a created being
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- Listen to this He believes Jesus Was a creature and a created being
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- He writes Imagine that Shaking my hand That's what he writes
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- Imagine that He got SMH Revelation 3 .14
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- Revelation 3 .14 Hear me talking now I'm going to shake my head
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- What did the bible say Brayson And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write
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- Now he's saying That I believe Jesus I don't know what he's talking about with a creature That's foolishness
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- But for it's being Being created For it's the son of God being created
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- The bible said Revelation 3 .14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write
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- These things say of the amen The amen The amen
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- The faithful and true witness The amen The faithful and the true witness The beginning
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- Of the creation of God The beginning of what
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- Of the creation of God Of the creation of God Sam you didn't know that I'm shaking my head
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- The beginning of what Of the creation of God He writes
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- All these man doctrines Not God Will fall under heretic
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- And cult teachings He wouldn't be classified He would be classified as a cult leader
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- With his doctrines He believed Well Thank God you out of your cult brother
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- Thank God you out of it You understand But one thing for sure I promise you this
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- You can call me a cult leader But the teachings that's coming from this cult leader
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- From the bible You gonna face them in judgment That I can assure you of You understand
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- That I can assure you of Take that to the bank Next email
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- Alright To the bank To the bank Alright I say the same thing man
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- The same teaching that he's saying He got the answer on judgment day That's right Yes sir
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- So where do you want to start with Let's do baptism in Jesus name Because I see the same error here
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- As in the first segment Namely that he misunderstands Descriptive and prescriptive language
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- In the text So Matthew 28 19 Baptizing In the name of the
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- Father Son and Holy Spirit That's part of the command of the great commission It's Jesus' own language
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- Of how to do the baptism And then in the descriptive text of Acts You hear the shorthand of Jesus Or Lord Jesus or Jesus Christ As shorthand for the
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- Trinitarian message And he takes that as prescriptive and denies What actually is prescriptive
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- Namely Matthew 28 Right Yeah And I can remember being in his church
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- Because I was Baptized there And the previous church I used to go to was It's called
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- It's a missionary Baptist church And they believe in baptizing The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost I was baptized
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- Father, Son, and Holy Ghost But hearing his message I first used to watch him on TV So I said let me just go to his church
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- I was hearing that Jesus name And the way he would teach it If you ain't been baptized in Jesus name
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- You in your sins tonight So I'm like I'm a kind of you don't believe
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- I didn't really understand the baptism I said man you know what It sound good So I started fellowshiping with him
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- I was like man you know what I may need to get you baptized He baptized me
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- And after that I just kind of went on believing in his doctrines
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- I never just really Looked deep into it I just kind of read it It say in the name of Jesus I guess that's what it mean
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- But as I began to do further study About that phrase
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- In the name of Jesus And this was like beautiful man The Lord just opened my understanding up to this
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- And I trace it all the way back To this particular phrase Deuteronomy chapter 18
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- Verse 19 22 I'm going to read that first Deuteronomy chapter 18
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- Verses 19 through 22 The greater profit
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- Than others Yeah And it reads Okay 19
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- And it shall be that Whosoever will not hear my words Which he speak in my name
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- I will require of him But the prophet who presumes To speak a word in my name
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- Which I have not commanded him to speak Or who speaks in the name of other gods That prophet shall die
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- And if you say in your heart How shall we know the word Which the Lord has spoken When a prophet speaks
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- In the name of the Lord If that thing does not happen or come to pass That is the thing which the
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- Lord has not spoken The prophet has spoken it Presumptuously You shall not be afraid of him
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- Okay now If you go back to verse 22 When a prophet speaks
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- In the name of the Lord Whenever that phrase In the name of the
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- Lord Is referring to the authority of the Lord By his authority In his authority
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- That's what that phrase meant I'm going to go to where David used the same phrase We'll go to 1
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- Samuel chapter 17 1
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- Samuel chapter 17 Verse Yeah, yeah, that's right
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- Chapter 4 to 5 Then David said to the
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- Philistine You come to me with a sword Or with a spear And with a javelin
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- But I come to you in the name of the Lord of hosts The God of the
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- The God The God of the armies of Israel Whom you have defiled
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- And you see that phrase But I come to you in the name of the Lord of hosts See David didn't even have to say
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- Jehovah When he said in the name of the Lord of hosts He said I'm coming in the authority of God Jehovah I'm carrying his authority
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- I had his permission by him to do this You know to kill you I come in his authority
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- His power and authority Under the rulership of the Lord That's what he's dealing with He's not saying
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- I come saying Jehovah Jehovah, Jehovah No, no, in the name of referring to In the authority of He came in the power and authority of God the
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- Father Or Jehovah or Yahweh That's who he represented He was an ambassador of God the
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- Father Or Jehovah That's what he's dealing with He wasn't saying about a name So that phrase, this phrase was all back in the
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- Old Testament Now I'm going to take it over and bring it up to date To the New Testament We'll go to Matthew chapter 7 verse 22
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- Matthew chapter 7 And verse 22 Verse 22
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- Here's Jesus Many will say to me in that day Lord, Lord Have we not prophesied in your name
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- Cast out demons In your name And done many wonders In your name
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- And then will I declare to them I never knew you depart from me You who practice lawlessness You see that phrase again
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- In your name Was Jesus saying That he was going around saying
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- Jesus, Jesus, Jesus No, in your name You was carrying his authority You was saying that you was
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- Under the authority of Jesus Christ I'm doing this by the authority of Christ I'm doing these things
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- That's what Christ is dealing with He's not saying people was going around saying Jesus, Jesus, Jesus Because that's what they believe
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- Go up to somebody and lay hands on them You have to say the name You know, like, you know, even with the baptism
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- You know Ain't nothing wrong with somebody Taking somebody down on Father, Son, and Holy Ghost In Jesus name, but whenever you say
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- If you haven't been, if you've been baptized In Father, Son, and Holy Ghost And you haven't been done, you know, baptized in Jesus name
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- You and your sins, then that's where the problem is Because see, there's no formula That the apostles taught like that You know, that phrase in the name of Jesus Was dealing with coming in his authority
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- His power and authority For the sake of Christ, do this What happened when the seven sons of Sceva Tried to cast out demons in the name of Jesus whom
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- Paul preaches But they didn't know that Jesus They weren't filled with the spirit of that Jesus Right It was just a formula
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- Right, right They got beat up, ran out clean and naked Yeah, yeah, playing around Talking about in the name
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- You didn't have his authority to do that You went under the authority of Christ To cast out no demons, so therefore
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- The demons say, hey, I know who Paul is Know who Jesus is, but who are you? Because you didn't have his
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- Because the person didn't have the power The authority of Christ to do those things You can't cast nothing out
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- You see what I'm saying? Yeah, and Acts uses the name The issue of the name, it's his authority
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- It's his lordship, you need to confess That Jesus is Lord And the tradition in Rome Was to say that Caesar is
- 01:24:38
- Lord Pinch a bit of incense And drop it on the altar and say Caesar is Lord But no, this is the call
- 01:24:44
- To profess Christ as Lord Jesus as Lord Just because it doesn't mention
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- Father and Spirit It's all encapsulated in that Right It's descriptive of the advance
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- Of the gospel, the advance of the name It begins back in Matthew Chapter 1
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- When his name shall be called Jesus Matthew 1, 18 -25, the issue is the name
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- And just like you're seeing here In Matthew 7 The issue is the name, so it's the advance
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- Of the name, that's what's being described I got a whole bunch
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- I'm just going to read them all And maybe they can go back and read them Sure, his name Yahweh is salvation
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- Yehoshua saves Jesus, Joshua That's what that means, God, Yahweh Is salvation
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- It's carrying the whole message of the gospel in the name Right, yeah, it entails all of that It's the power and authority
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- It's the worship of the Lord The following of the belief of Him In the name, it carries all of that That's what all of it comprises of You know what
- 01:25:52
- I'm saying? And it doesn't undo Jesus' own formula If there's a formula
- 01:25:57
- It's when he prescribes baptizing In the name of the Father and of the Son And of the Holy Spirit Right, because if somebody ain't a believer
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- And they're trying to baptize somebody They don't have the power and authority Of Christ to do that You're not under his rulership
- 01:26:13
- You can't do that You're an imposter You've got to have the authority of Christ To baptize anybody, you've got to be a believer
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- Possess his authority Bring those scriptures and then take off with the Trinity What you have to say there
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- For those of the audience I want to just give y 'all something to go back And do your study, do some research on these scriptures
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- And you'll see whether this phrase was used It didn't mean saying Jesus' name It meant in His power
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- And His authority And I'm going to read Mark Chapter 9 You can go read
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- Mark chapter 9 verse 38, 39 Mark chapter 16 I mean, yeah,
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- Mark chapter 16 Verse 17, you can read Luke Chapter 19 verse 37 and 38
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- John chapter 5 Verse 43 John chapter 10 verse 25
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- John chapter 14, 13 and 14 John 14 and 26 John 17 and 6
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- John 17 and 12 John 17, 26 John 20, 31
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- Acts 2 and 38 That's what it like to run to the most, right The Acts 2, 38 And Acts 3 and 6
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- Acts 4, 17 and 8 Acts 9 Let me read Acts 9, 29 real fast
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- I want to read that one too That's sure enough to help them right there Acts 9, 29
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- Let me see, okay I'm going to start at verse 27 Just for context, okay 29, 27, okay
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- But Barnabas took him and brought him to the apostles And he declared to them How he had seen the
- 01:27:55
- Lord Referring to Paul Had seen the Lord on the road And that he had spoken to him
- 01:28:00
- And how he had preached boldly At Damascus In the name of the Lord Jesus Now he wasn't saying
- 01:28:07
- He was going around saying Jesus, Jesus, Jesus No, he spoke boldly in the authority of Christ In the power, in his name
- 01:28:14
- In his authority And then it goes on to verse 28 So he was with them at Jerusalem Coming in and out
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- Coming in and going out And he spoke boldly In the name of the
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- Lord Jesus And disputed against the Hellenians But they attempted to kill him
- 01:28:32
- You see that right there, that phrase, he spoke boldly In the name, or in the authority
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- Of Jesus Christ Amen Now you want to go
- 01:28:44
- Which way to where? Which one you want to go to next? Some comments about the Trinity We could do a whole other show on the
- 01:28:50
- Trinity This is very important He's basically saying That everybody from Whitfield to Spurgeon To every, you know
- 01:29:01
- Of the hundred million Chinese underground believers in our day Who are Trinitarian All of these are heretics, right?
- 01:29:09
- Right, yeah This is his denial of the Trinity But ultimately our authority is the Scripture Which the
- 01:29:14
- Bible clearly teaches the Trinity In that same verse I referenced, Matthew 28 But there's plenty of other
- 01:29:20
- We talked about 1 Corinthians 12 The beginning has that Trinitarian formula Ephesians 2 .18
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- You see all three of the Trinity In Ephesians 2 .18, but what you got on that? Oh, the
- 01:29:31
- Trinity? Yeah I was going to go back to Because they all say that Trinity is not in the
- 01:29:39
- Bible Of course it's not in the Bible, all it means is three, man I mean, just like Bible Is not in the
- 01:29:44
- Bible, right? The word Bible But we do know the concept Of the Trinity in the Bible We do understand the
- 01:29:50
- Bible is Scripture, Holy Scripture We do know that the Trinity is basically The concept is there
- 01:29:56
- Father, Son, and Holy Ghost Three divine separate individuals I mean, it's there, you just have to read it
- 01:30:02
- And I can show all three of them I'm just going to give all three of them here Being spoken all together
- 01:30:08
- Yes So we'll go to Isaiah 4 .8 Verse 16 Yep See, he won't
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- Read this Scripture They'll never read these Scriptures, man That's what's so amazing
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- I ain't never heard him talk About these Scriptures, but I'm just going to read them To his audience so they can see for themselves
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- And go ask the Lord to open your eyes To these Scriptures too as well Okay, Isaiah Chapter 4 .8,
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- Verse 16 Now, here it is, this was not the Prophet speaking, now, this was not the Prophet Isaiah speaking, but the
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- Lord speaking through him Right He said, come near to me, hear this I have not spoken in secret
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- From the beginning, from the time that it was I was there And now the Lord God And His Spirit have sent me
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- You see that? Right there That's the Trinity right there, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost Right there, Christ speaking through the Prophet Isaiah He mentioned the
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- Lord God, which is God the Father He mentioned the Holy Spirit, His Spirit Father, Son, and Holy Ghost Right there, the
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- Trinity Yes sir, I love it, you can't deny it He ain't got nothing to do with it And I want the one that's following him to go
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- And read this to him and present it to him Ask him about it, you know, see what he say But we can go off until Let me see, one, two, three, four, five, six
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- I got six of them I want to read About showing all three Father, Son, and Holy Ghost together in unity Let's go to Matthew Chapter 28
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- Verse 19 Matthew 28 19
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- Okay, here's Jesus Even the Great Commission Go therefore and make disciples of all nations
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- Baptizing them in the name Of the Father And in of the Son and of the
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- Holy Spirit Teaching them to observe all things That I have commanded you And lo, I'm with you always
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- Even to the end of the age There it is, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost right there Jesus came out of His mouth and told you right there
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- You still don't want to believe it Ain't that something man Jesus sitting here telling
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- Father, Son, and Holy Ghost Oh no, that means that He's talking about the name Man listen,
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- God's name They believe that God's name was Jesus And the Holy Spirit named Jesus Scripture don't teach that man
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- I mean, that's crazy man How can you come up with that stuff man It's something man, but I'm going to read
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- Mark Chapter 1 I'm going to debunk all of that Mark Chapter 1, verses 10 and 11
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- Let's go there Mark Chapter 1 Verses 10 and 11
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- I want to show the Trinity He was mocking the Trinity man I ain't like that man
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- That wrote something in me then You're dealing with the Lord God Whether you know it or not He's doing it ignorantly
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- You're dealing with God, God Almighty Father, Son, and Holy Ghost The Thrice Holy God The Triune God Don't let that word trip you up They think the word
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- Trinity automatically Subconsciously, you just blot it down No man, look at the scriptures where it shows
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- Three separate divine individuals In the Bible And I'm going to read it to you right here
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- Mark Chapter 1, verses 10 and 11 And it reads And immediately coming up From the water
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- He saw And it came to pass in those days That Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee And was baptized by John In the
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- Jordan And immediately coming up from the water He saw the heavens parting And the
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- Spirit descending upon him Like a dove Then a voice came from heaven
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- You are my beloved Son In whom I am well pleased Right there, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost Right there
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- In that verse Okay, we can go to Luke Chapter 3, verse 22 Luke Chapter 3
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- Verse 22 Man, I love the Trinity I love the doctrine of the Trinity You know what's so crazy?
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- I had got exposed to the Doctrine of the Trinity, man On a conversation I was having with a Jehovah's Witness That was so crazy
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- He went to the In the King James Version, you know about the verse That was not there But he went there in 1
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- John Chapter 5, verse 7 He read that to me And when he read that, man It's like my understanding
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- The Lord just showed me 3 And I was like From that day on, I was studying the 3
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- And I went on, man, the Lord just Showed me my understanding with the 3, and it's there I always thought it was something crazy
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- Before you read this next verse What Murray does with Revelation 3, verse 14 is precisely
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- What the Jehovah's Witnesses do They take Arche, which means Beginning, as if he is
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- The first created one But Arche means the source point The creation comes from him
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- He's the beginning of it, it was Sourced in him, which is therefore Consistent with all the passages
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- Which present him as being the creator of all Colossians 1, John 1 Verse 1, all of these
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- Passages teach that Jesus is in fact The creator, but a creature The word creature just means
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- A created being A living being that was created Jesus is not a created being
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- He's not a creation, he's the beginning Of creation, the creator That's the consistency of Revelation 3, verse 14
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- Same confusion that you see With the JW movement Right, it's one of the
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- Scriptures, I think, in John 16, verse 27 Where, you know, he said Jesus said, I came out from God, see that's what he
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- Believed that Jesus actually lived Literally lived inside the Father And when the Father spoke
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- Jesus came out of his mouth, like Became the word, so he don't believe that Christ always existed with the
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- Father You know, always self -existent By the Father, he believed Jesus lived inside the
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- Father And when the Father spoke Jesus came out from the Father What kind of teaching is that?
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- How do you believe Jesus Christ is God then? I mean, how can he be God? God is All -knowing, self -existent
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- Definitionally so, yeah You know, eternally The word was with God, the word was
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- God Right Eternally, man, never was created Yeah, when they
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- Take John 1, 1, they say Well, he's only a concept in the mind of God That then gets spoken forth into existence
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- Well, in Hebrews 1, 2 The world was made through him It doesn't say through the word, it says through the
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- Son, the Huyas So, he was already the Son When the world was made through him
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- Not just a concept in the Father's mind So, yeah, it's some It's some twisted theology
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- So, for him to laugh and say I'm saying he believed that Jesus is a creature Yeah, that's what you believe
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- If you believe Jesus was a created being From his eternal state, you're saying He's a creature
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- He's trying to mock you, but that just turns around You see what I'm saying? You ain't have to say it, man
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- Your doctrine is basically saying it So, you know, that's weird Let me continue on with this
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- Luke 3, verse 22 Let me show you the Trinity Let you go back and read it
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- I'm going to give you something to go back and search the Scripture with Luke 3, verse 22
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- And the Holy Spirit Descended in a bodily form Like a dove upon him Meaning Jesus And a voice came from heaven
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- Which said, you are my beloved Son And you I am well pleased
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- That was the voice of the Father right there We see the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost right there Working, working strong together
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- You see that? In love and unity I like that unity that they display, man Because if Jesus ain't going against the
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- Father The Holy Spirit ain't going against the Father They all working together with this thing of salvation The plan, man, to save humanity
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- Amen, brother You know what I'm saying? Man, I feel like preaching, man He talking about, you want to let me preach in the church?
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- You need to let me preach in there So I can get them to Trinity, because they need to know this stuff They do The only way that there is such thing as love
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- For God to be love, there has to be Father, Son, and Holy Spirit Otherwise, there was no love until he created
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- The first thing But God is essentially love In his essence, he's always loved the
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- Son The Son has always loved the Spirit There's always been perfect unity, perfect love Within the
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- Godhead So the Godhead is the eternal being The word Trinity is a theological word
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- But the concept is that There is only one God There are three persons who are
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- God And each person is fully and equally God Each of those statements are absolutely biblical
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- There's only one God That's the Shema of Israel Mark 12, 29, Jesus affirms that There's only one
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- God There's a distinction between In the beginning was the word, the word was with God So there's a distinction between Father and Spirit You showed that at the baptism
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- There's a distinction between persons And then each one is fully God You can't diminish them at all
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- You can't take them down From even the slightest notch And say, well, Jesus is created No, you're diminishing the eternal
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- Deity of Christ You can't do that Hebrews 1, 2 So the point is, yeah
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- The Trinity is a biblical concept Just a theological word to describe the
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- Bible And the truths that are in the Bible The word Bible is not in the Bible But all 66 books are the
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- Bible Yeah, yeah I'm glad you clarified that Because they'll mock that They'll say, oh man,
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- Trinity, the word Yeah, of course it's not in there But all it means is three, man That's all he's basically saying there
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- He's trying to make it seem like We believe in three gods That's what they say Oh, you believe in three gods?
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- No, no, brother. One God Three divine individuals, man The Holy Trinity John 14
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- Verse 16, 17 John 14 Verse 16
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- Make sure I get that right Verse 16 and 17 Yeah, that's correct Yeah And it reads like this
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- And I will pray the Father And he will give you another helper
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- That he may abide with you forever The spirit of truth Whom the world cannot receive
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- Because it neither sees him Nor knows him But you know him, for he dwells with you
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- And will be in you And I will not leave you And I will come to you
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- You see, that's the beauty about the Trinity You know, when a person gives their life to Jesus Christ Automatically The Father And the
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- Holy Spirit come and live within you Father, Son, and Holy Ghost come and live And abode with you Jesus said, me and my
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- Father, we will come And abide with you, and abode with you And suck with you They come and live inside you, man
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- And Father, Son, and Holy Ghost Whenever you get Jesus Christ, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost They all three live inside you, man
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- They work in this thing, man I love that God is one being Yeah, yeah, man
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- When you understand And come over by the God here, the Trinity Man, it's going to put a smile on your face
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- You're going to say, man, you know what I got to apologize to Brother Sam Because this thing is beautiful, man I love that, man
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- I love the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, man The beauty that they displayed in the scriptures And you got John chapter 15
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- Verse 26 It's pretty much You know, he's saying the same thing, but when the helper comes
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- Whom I shall send to you From the Father The Spirit of truth who proceeds
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- From the Father, he will testify Me, and you will also Will bear witness because you have been
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- With me from the beginning See, when the Holy Spirit comes He's going to testify Make you glorify about Jesus Christ He's not coming to take the glory
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- You know, it's just like when Jesus Christ came He came and glorified the Father Now when
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- Jesus Went back to heaven And sent the Holy Spirit, now the Holy Spirit Is glorifying the
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- Son He's leading you to Christ because Christ is The head of the church So he leads us to Christ to learn more
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- About Jesus Christ Jesus is our master, our Lord, so we got to learn About the Lord And let me read
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- One more scripture, 2 Corinthians 13 14 Now this one going to help them out a lot
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- One verse right here Yeah, now they got to argue with the other ones This one just going to be
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- Showing up playing for you, right But you can't argue about the other ones This one just showing up, put the icing on the cake 2
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- Corinthians Chapter 13, verse 14 Okay, the grace
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- Of our Lord Jesus Christ And the love of God And the communion of the
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- Holy Spirit be with you All, amen Did you see that?
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- Did you see that right there? The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ And the love of God God the
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- Father And the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you All, amen Praise the
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- Lord, I can say amen to that too Well you know what? Let's wrap it up on that note
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- Even though we could keep going Yeah, it's just so much man It's so much,
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- I have a thousand things I want to say right now But I think we need to wrap it up And we can get back together again and do this again
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- But before we sign off, let's pray I want to pray for Murray, you know, I only want good things
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- For him, I want him to know the Scriptures and I want him to believe And I don't want him to be an island just trying to be
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- The church of Jesus Christ As if everybody else has it wrong I want him to come
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- And be part of the body And he can celebrate for all eternity With Whitefield and Luther And Calvin and everybody that He's derided
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- The truth is we're one body who believe In the true Christ So let's pray for him That's all the reason
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- I reached out to him To try to have fellowship with him And show these teachers, man, look at him We can have fellowship together
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- We don't need to be divided It's too much, we need to become unity So we can go out and give the gospel to these
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- People that are dying on us It has to be built on truth, though, that's why a conversation Like this is so important It needs to be done in love, it also has to be done
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- In truth, so How about I close in prayer? And then we'll sign off So Father God, we do come to you now
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- And pray for Murray, Lord, I don't Know this man, I do pray Lord, that you would save him if he's
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- Not yet born again, I pray, Lord, that you Would open the eyes of his heart To see the truth of your
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- Word, I pray that you would bring humility To him, that he would be able to listen to Sam And to others that you would send
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- With the truth of your word, God, we do Pray for those who are also under his teaching Lord God, that in each of the areas
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- That we've discussed today, that your word Would be upheld You say you hold your word and your name
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- Above everything else, so I pray That everybody who was listening to Murray would also hear what we've
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- Said today, but that your word Would be the thing that triumphs in Jesus Name, we pray, amen
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- Amen, hallelujah I appreciate you, man, this was really fun talking Yes, sir This is actually the first time we've talked face to face
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- Yeah, I know, right, we've talked on the phone Like I say, man, I like The teaching that you was giving, man,
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- I say, you know What, I gotta reach out to my brother, man You know, Christ got You know, Christ got people all over the world, man
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- Whether I don't know you personally I know when you The spirit of Christ, you just feel that unity
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- I felt it the first time we talked, I feel it now Is there a church that people Could go to there in Mobile, Alabama?
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- Yeah, you got Christ Fellowship Baptist Church Christ Fellowship Baptist, okay Yeah, is there a website or something?
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- You just go to Christ Fellowship Yeah, just Google that We're at Cornerstone Church in Mount Laurel, New Jersey, so if there's anybody up this way
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- We'd love to fellowship, and brother We gotta do another video like this sometime That'll work, man
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- Yeah, alright, man Yes, sir, well, man, I appreciate you Giving me the opportunity, man Getting to this word together, man
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- And I pray, man, you and your family have A great Christ day Christmas day, amen
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- All about you And I'll definitely get back with you sometime later on this week Alright, sounds good