Dr. Dan Biddle Interview with Roman Juranek - EVIDENCE FOR CREATION

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Dear friends, welcome to another episode of our Virtual Conversations series. Today, our guest, both mine and yours, is

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Dr. Dan Biddle, whom you know from various materials I've already shown you on the

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Valuable Life channel. He is also the producer of the film that some of you have seen called The Ark and the

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Darkness. So, I managed to invite him today for a virtual conversation and we will talk a bit about how

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God has worked in his life, what happened that made him believe in the Word written in the Bible and where the

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Genesis Apologetics ministry comes from, and so on. Could you tell me how you became a believer? Have you always been a believer or did you become a born -again believer later in life?

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So, I came to faith in Christ when I was about 11 years old. I was saved. I came home from church camp and basically my parents announced a divorce, and so I began a spiral and I became a rebel teenager.

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Not to blame it just on that, but I chose a rebellious life and I came back to Christ when

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I was about 17 years old and I've been trying to walk with him ever since.

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I didn't know that the Genesis account was a real historical account, however, until about 15 years ago.

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So, I lived for decades through my Christian life believing in the secular version of natural sciences, believing also in Scripture and believing that God somehow used it.

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But like most Christians, I was probably somewhat of a theistic evolutionist, just believing that God used some forms of evolution over millions of years and maybe believing that the

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Genesis account had some mythology blended into it. But about 15 years ago, the

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Lord woke me up to the truth that Genesis is a real history book and if I could put three chapters of Scripture on that, that moved me, it would be

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Luke chapter 3, which has the genealogies of Jesus all the way back to Adam, and I just realized that couldn't be mythology.

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They're linked and chained genealogies. And then it says Adam was a son of God, not the son of Homo habilis or Australopithecus, Australopithecines, or anything similar to that, but he was a son of God, so I knew that God had to birth

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Adam as the very first man. And then, of course, Genesis chapters 1, 5, and 10 really left me no way of believing in any form of evolution and it was only after I had humbled myself as a child under the authority of Scripture that the

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Lord began revealing to me, really through dinosaurs, that Earth is young and Noah's flood happened recently, just thousands of years ago.

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When I first started exploring the topic of creationism, it was, of course, all thanks to God because he convinced me to do so.

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In the initial phase of my search, I had a problem with dinosaurs because atheists and evolutionists want us to believe that these creatures walked the

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Earth millions of years ago and here we have this confrontation, the novelty that dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time.

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How is this possible? You know, it is incredible because people, Christians and people who are not yet Christians, need to wake up on two fronts on dinosaurs, and I will sing this message until I die.

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There's a big message about dinosaurs and there's a small message about dinosaurs, or a macro and a micro.

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The big one is simply this. How in the world do you have 13 states in the middle of America filled with dead dinosaurs mixed with marine life?

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How do you do that without Noah's flood? And it's obvious, secularists will admit this, they were buried catastrophically.

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They're buried in hundreds of feet of mud. Just look at the Morrison Formation. It's 300 feet thick.

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It's like a mud pancake. It spans for 600 ,000 miles over 13 states and that 300 foot thick mud pancake is filled with two things, dinosaurs and land creatures and marine life, all mushed together.

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Noah's flood is the most obvious thing in the world, but people have been trained to look right over it.

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And on a small level, so that's the big picture, this is the small picture, is microscopically dinosaurs are irrefutably young.

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The ship has left the station. There's no way out of this. Evolutionists cannot justify it.

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There are 16 different biological materials that have been now discovered in dinosaur bones.

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And this has been established over 120 peer -reviewed scientific journals, not creationist publications, peer -reviewed scientific secular journals have now established this.

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And two of those materials have very, very clear time decay rates.

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The first one is collagen. Collagen has a known decay rate that can be tested, improved within a laboratory, and they've even stretched it out way beyond what most scientists would agree is reasonable.

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Most scientists think, all right, the known decay rate of collagen may be 10 ,000 to 30 ,000 years.

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Some will stretch it up to 100 ,000 years. But the Buckley study would go as far as 900 ,000 years.

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Even if we give it to them and say, all right, collagen can decay from its representation in the fabric of bone down to zero in a million years, how in the world is it still there over 65 million years?

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It's impossible. The case is closed, and in 2019 they established that the collagen that they're finding in dinosaurs' bones is not contamination.

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It's not intrusion from some other animal. It's been proven at the molecular level to be organic to the creature that they're finding it in.

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So dinosaurs at a small level with these 16 different bio -organics have been proven to be young.

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The last two that they've just found, increasing the list from 14 to 16, are cartilage and nerve cells.

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Not remnants of cartilage, real cartilage, actual dinosaur cartilage like the soft stuff that's in between your knee joints, and nerve cells.

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Not impressions of nerve cells, but nerve cells. So it's case closed. Dinosaurs carry the weight.

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Earth is young, and that Noah's Flood happened recently. You were talking about that region in the

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USA, which I cannot precisely show now, but it is behind me on the map. Fortunately, my viewers know which region it is from your video about human fossils.

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But do we have such a region here in Europe? You know, I really wish I could.

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I have studied fossils worldwide, but what I've learned is that Noah's Flood was so messy and so big that you really have to pick a few regions that you can know well.

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Like, I would never, I don't trust what creationists say, generally speaking.

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Well, let's say I'm skeptical about what they say about the state of California, where I live, because it's so messy.

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You've even got Jurassic material folded on top of Cretaceous material, not the other way around.

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So California is a very complex landscape. However, things like the

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Morrison Formation are very clear. It's hundreds of feet thick. It's got marine life and dinosaurs all mixed together.

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They were killed. Here's the catchphrase to remember. They were killed by the products that they're buried in.

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They weren't killed and then died and then covered over millions of years later.

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The dinosaur taphonomy, which is a study of how a creature dies, proves that these creatures are found buried in the material and killed by the material that they're buried in.

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And the most convincing thing of that is, if you look in just the state of Utah, for example, you can find layers, sometimes tens of feet thick, of ash.

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And they know that that ash came from the Independence Dike Swarm in California, which is a 300 -mile -long linear volcanic chain that went on a linear rip that happened during the flood.

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And so these dinosaurs are buried in three different products, mud, sand, and ash.

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And it all had to be produced while the time they were being killed because they were killed by these three products, which now forms a matrix that these creatures are buried in.

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So it's complex. But when you really get it and the light bulb turns on and you find a dinosaur skull buried in mud, sand, and ash, you have to ask, were these three materials involved in the process that put this dinosaur down?

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And the answer is yes. So it's really, like I say, it's a case -closed issue for those who understand it.

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Watching your latest film, The Ark and the Darkness, which some of my viewers also had the opportunity to see,

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I realized that the ground we walk on mainly comes from flood sediments. These layers can be clearly seen, for example, in the

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Grand Canyon, right? Yes, it's incredible. In fact, the dinosaurs are buried in stratified layers, and these stratified layers build on top of each other like pancakes through horizontal material moving very quickly.

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And so we know what happened during the flood because of the process of what's called catastrophic plate tectonics.

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You can see where the tsunamis came up on land carrying mud and where they sheeted in backflow back to the ocean, depositing those layers one after one after one.

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In some cases, like the Tanis location in the Dakotas, you can actually see the direction that the tsunamis came up and receded back, leaving their muddy deposits as they sheetflow back off the continent.

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They came back up again, left the deposits, came back up again. Again, it's the most obvious thing.

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When your eyes are open and you see it, you can't unsee it. My viewers recently watched a new, for us at least, video about human fossils.

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After posting this video, some atheists responded, claiming that if the world had indeed been flooded as we assert, everything would look different.

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They are, of course, proponents of millions of years, and you know where I'm going with this?

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Let me approach that a couple different ways. First of all, and I'll say this emphatically, and some of my courageous friends will disagree with me, there are pre -flood fossils of humans that have been found.

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Our channel talks about this. I know it's a controversial topic, but I know creationists who have found the gold mine.

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John Mackay is one of them, and secularists admit that there are pre -flood fossilized humans that are fossilized in materials that's way too old for them to be in.

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So that's the first thing to consider. For those of my Bible -believing listeners, also consider this if you're going to rest under the authority of Scripture.

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Think what God said about the flood. He said, I will destroy them, meaning evil, wicked humanity, with the earth.

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I'm going to use the earth as a mechanism to eradicate these humans, and that's exactly what happened.

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Then in the middle, think about this. Humans had 150 days to flee to high ground.

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To the Zuni happened. The Zuni is the last process that happened, catastrophically burying everything.

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It's what secularists call the late Cretaceous transgression, what we would call the zenith of the flood.

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So they had five months to build makeshift rafts and go to high ground, and humans could cover, what, 10 miles a day, 20 miles a day, going, going, going, until they hit the granite crests of different areas, the highest ground.

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Then they drown, and they float, they bloat, they decay, and they go down, and they're never to be seen again.

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There were probably only single -digit millions of people on earth when the flood happened.

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So that's what happened to humans, is they had time. They had five months to go to high ground.

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They were eradicated later. They drown, they float, they bloat, and then they decay, and the little crabs show up and take up all the remnants.

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A lot of them were just covered over by sediment. In fact, I'm firmly convinced if you looked at what's called the

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Great Sand or the Whopper Sand south of Texas in the ocean there, most creationists believe you would find all kinds of human fossil remains in those areas.

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After the first and so far only screening of the film The Ark and the Darkness, which took place in the small town of Skorzencin here in Poland, a topic related to the so -called

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Nephilim came up. Could you say something about this topic, as I know you recently wrote a book about the

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Nephilim in your country, right? It seems to be quite an intriguing topic for believers.

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Maybe some of our viewers know what it's about, or maybe not. Could you tell us? Certainly. I want to be respectful of Christians who have different views on this.

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Some people think it's so they were the mighty great men or they were the sons of Seth. I acknowledge that there are different perspectives on this.

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I hold firmly and I'm utterly convinced on the perspective that the

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Nephilim were the descendants of angel -human relationships, and I think that's a very strong position that I hold.

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Tim Chafee's book called Fallen, which you can get on Amazon, has hundreds of pages worth of emphatic evidence on that topic, but I'm very, very convinced that Genesis 6 -4 says that the

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B 'nai Elohim, the sons of God, looked upon the daughters of men and took them to themselves, and giants were born unto them whenever the sons of God, the angels, had relations with women, which happened both before and after the

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Flood. That's Genesis 6 -4. So it happened in the Americas. I'm very convinced of that.

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It also happened in Bible lands, where you've got the sons of Anak, you've got the Raphaim, the

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Anakim. Of course, Goliath is the most well -known Nephilim who stood over 9 feet tall.

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And if you just take the head of his spear, it was 600 iron shekels in weight, approximately 16 pounds, 11 ounces.

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There's no way a human of any frame could handle that. I've tried it. I've got videos of it.

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I've got a 6 -foot -4 football player trying to wield a 25 -pound spear that was probably between 9 and 12 feet tall with a 2 - to 3 -foot -long spearhead that weighed 16 pounds.

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Humans of any variety and shape cannot handle a weapon like that effectively in battle.

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You can wield it, you can poke with it, but you can't swing it around like would be necessary to harry a blow or do a thrust that's going to be meaningful.

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So they existed. They existed before the flood, and they also existed after the flood.

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Deuteronomy chapters 1 through 3 is very clear about this. Genesis chapter 14 has a leading king of the

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Israelites coming against several different Nephilim giant tribe chieftains, if you will.

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And it also happens in the Americas. Some people think it's speculation, but if you just look in the

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Americas for about a 300 -year period, there are 885 documented records that we have reported by 1 ,196 people of over 3 ,000 giant skeletons that have been found.

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The Smithsonian admits or found 17 of these between 7 feet tall and 7 feet 8 inches.

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And of course, not all of them are of Nephilim descent. But some of them could have been from Nephilim lines, especially when you look at what they were doing in the early

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Americas, building these earthworks, and they were obsessed with sun, moon, and star worship.

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And they were making calculations using geometry and pi and some other things and had advanced knowledge of astronomy and levels that were practiced by the contemporary

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Native Americans that were encountered by the pilgrims when they came over in the 1600s and 1700s.

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And even Abraham Lincoln, one of our past presidents, says, look, the mounds of America are filled with the bones of an extinct race of giants.

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So he knew it. Many of the upper brass in the 1800s knew it. And so there was a reincursion that happened, which also impacted humans in the

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Americas. I had this thought and would like to know what you think about it.

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Were Adam and Eve significantly larger than us as modern humans? Let's start with what we do know.

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They were the optimally designed humans for taking dominion over Earth.

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They were designed to not die, to live forever until the fall came. We also believe, and this is where we get into speculation, we believe that Earth was different.

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We don't know if it was different gravity levels. We don't know if it was different oxygen levels. I would speculate that it probably was, but ultimately we have to say we don't know about their size.

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There are some interesting myths and legends about Noah being larger. I would speculate that maybe they were in fact a little bit taller, but we really can't know.

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And yeah, there's lots of people that want to speculate about human fossil footprints and things like that.

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I've seen some things that look pretty interesting, but unfortunately we'll never be able to know how tall they were, at least not from Scripture.

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Since we are on the topic of Adam and Eve, I would like to mention Cain and Abel. The Bible initially mentions that Adam and Eve had only two sons.

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After one is killed, Cain flees and other people appear in the Bible. Atheists seize on this as a narrative error, claiming it's evidence that the

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Bible is wrong. It even seems that the Bible talks about a nation founded by Cain. So where did all these other people come from?

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Certainly. Let's start from Scripture, and then let's look at history, then let's look at science. So first of all, from a historical standpoint, we know from Genesis 5 that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters.

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And then if you look at history, Josephus is a pretty reliable historian. He says from Jewish history that Adam and Eve had over 30 sons and daughters.

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We'll never be able to know if that's true, but he reports at least at the time that that was Jewish tradition, and that seems reasonable to me.

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Then if we look at science, there's just that weird mathematical phenomenon that happens when you start factoring numbers, like 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256.

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You can have populations that escalate quickly, especially when reproductive ages are kept lower than what they are today, between, say, age 13 and 17.

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So it's very easy to show how we can get a population J curve to represent the original people that came,

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Adam and Eve, of course, after the flood, just Noah. In fact, I would say the fact that we have just 8 billion people alive on Earth today is very good evidence that we only started reproducing about 4 ,400 years ago before the flood.

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And the last thing I would say is if you look at the human genome, from a genetic and DNA perspective, there's a variety of ways to get at it, but it's also very clear we came from an original set of parents.

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I wish we had more time because our conversation is very interesting, but we are slowly coming to an end.

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Tell me, what was the reaction of the viewers after the screenings of the film The Ark and the Darkness?

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Yes, I can tell you my favorite reaction, and I would think that this reaction is why we made the movie, why the director,

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Ralph Strang, and I joined together to make this movie is because we wanted one outcome, and it can be typified by a call

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I received from this one gal who was in her 30s or 40s, and she was simultaneously ecstatic and happy, and she was also mad.

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I'll explain why that was valuable to me. The first thing is she says, Dan, great movie for this guy.

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Congratulations to you and the director, Ralph Strang from Sevenfold Film. You guys did an awesome job. I love it. I'm so happy.

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I'm ecstatic. I see the world differently now. I can trust my Bible. My roots are now going all the way down to the beginning of Genesis.

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But then she said, you know, I'm also mad that I've been duped for decades. No one told me this was true.

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My parents didn't tell me. My Sunday school teachers didn't tell me. My youth pastor didn't tell me.

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I didn't get it from the pulpit, and that's true of what's happening in American churches today as they're not standing on this book of Genesis.

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In fact, I've got an old Bible downstairs. It's got a newspaper clipping in it, and that newspaper clipping, it says that a handful of students, like six of them or so, failed to get their seminary licenses to become ordained pastors because they couldn't recite the age of the flood, 1656.

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And it's amazing. So that's the scrutiny that people used to have about the authority of Scripture and the high regard for Scripture.

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But nowadays, I would say that probably at least half of the youth pastors in America have no idea when the flood happened or if it really happened and its implications to theology today.

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And I'm not being critical. I'm just saying as a behavioral scientist, that's a fact. And it's a sad thing.

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We do surveys of people all the time, and people really don't know their Bibles. But that's some of the reactions that we're getting.

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But the reason that Ralph and I joined to make this movie is because we want wake -up calls. We didn't do it for money.

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Our payments are changed lives and open minds, and we're very grateful that that happened on a mass scale.

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That's why we put the movie out free on YouTube. You can just go to noahsflood .com, plural, but no apostrophe f, just noahsflood .com

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and watch the movie for free. Or just go to YouTube and type in Ark in the

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Darkness. And that's why we did it. We want changed lives. Some people in Poland have seen the film thanks to it being on YouTube.

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A very small group of people saw it at the screening I organized. I would really like to bring this film to Poland to show it to a wider audience, but the film needs to have a

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Polish narrator. Maybe, with God's help, this can be done either by my ministry, Valuable Life, or with the help of a partner, the

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Gorzow Bible Center. We'll see if we can make it happen. Let's move on to the last question as this program has its time limit.

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I see behind you the poster for Out of Babel. This is a film, right, about how today's Native Americans, their ancestors, came to the

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American continent. As the next step after this interview, I will show viewers your conversation with a certain chief.

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So, could you tell us more about this new film project? Yes, we love what happened at the

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Tower of Babel. We love what happened with the Native Americans and their records of it and everything. A summary version would be to say that Native American history, as well as the

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Y -chromosome markers of the genetic migratory paths that we can find now of humans based upon the

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Harvard -trained geneticist Dr. Nathaniel Jensen from Answers in Genesis, we can now see how at least some

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Native American tribes made their way over from the Tower of Babel dispersion all the way over to the

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Americas. Our movie is going to cover that. It's also going to cover the topic of dragons and dinosaurs, as well as giants in North America.

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You can just go to outofbabel .com. The movie should be coming out next year sometime or the following, as my slide over here says, 2026.

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Let's say sometime hopefully next year maybe, but it may come out the following year.

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But we're working with Brett Varvel as the producer -director of that movie. I've done a number of films with him before in the past.

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He does a great job. I'm looking at the script now. They're on their second wave of revisions, and it's going to be an amazing, amazing movie, and it will cover how the

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Native American populations arrived in North America and what America was like when they got here.

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So I'm super excited about that movie. How did they reach the American continent? By boats, rafts, how?

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We believe that the contemporary Native American tribes did go over in the classic way that even evolutionists would agree with, over the

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Bering Strait during the Ice Age when the Ice Age produced better land bridges than what we have today.

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And that's how they actually reported getting over here as well. If you look at some

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Native American records like the Red Record or the Wallum Olum that's been substantiated by Dr.

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Nathaniel Jensen from Answers in Genesis, that's how they report coming over. But I would also say that other groups came by ship, and it's controversial as to which groups those were.

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Some people would say there's great evidence that the Vikings came over to the east coast of the Americas earlier than we would expect.

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And of course we have the classic reports of Columbus and other groups coming over. But I do think there's good evidence that some other groups made it over earlier than would be reported.

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You look at copper trade and things like that, there's some very clear scientific signatures that there was actually even trade going on between Europe and North America before what people would admit that there was seafaring going on between those continents.

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But we know at least that the Native Americans, at least some of the tribes did come over across the

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Bering Strait, yeah. Unfortunately, our available time is up, but I hope this first time won't be the last.

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There are so many things to discuss, including your latest project, which I will be watching as it develops.

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On my channel, I try to show as much as I can, but certainly that as believers in God's Word, we don't have to fear scientists or feel foolish.

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You are a scientist, you believe, and you even have scientific evidence to support it.

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Amen, brother. And I would encourage your users who are of scientific mindedness like I am, the way that I came to understand it scientifically about my faith was not by studying more science, it was by humbling myself under the authority of Scripture and realizing there is no other way but divine that God could have assembled that book over a 1 ,500 -year period in multiple languages, 66 books that don't disagree, that prove history.

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When I humbled myself under God's Word, that's when I became having a greater scientific understanding of things like the age of the earth and Noah's flood.

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But it didn't come through science, it came through the Bible. Dan, thank you for your time and for this very interesting conversation.

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I hope we can repeat it someday. I also thank my viewers for joining us and watching. Our guest today was

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Dr. Dan Biddle. Sounds great. God bless all you guys. Take care.