June 9, 2017 Show with Aaron Dunlop on “FAME: Friends of Africa Missionary Endeavor”

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He's an author and he's the founder of ThinkGospel .com. Today we are discussing a ministry that he is involved in that his father is also intricately involved in, and that is FAME, F-A-M-E, which stands for Friends of Africa Missionary Endeavor.

We're also going to be talking a bit about or promoting the Foundations Conference in New York City, an event where Aaron's father, Alan, will be speaking, among other speakers. But if you'd like to join us on the air, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com.

If you have a question for Aaron Dunlop on FAME, Friends of Africa Missionary Endeavor, that's chrisarnson at gmail .com. But it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back.

To Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Aaron Dunlop. Thank you, Chris. It's good to be back with you.

And tell us something before we go into FAME. For those of our listeners who have not yet heard you, they did not catch our last interview with you, tell our listeners about ThinkGospel .com.

ThinkGospel .com began while I was pastoring in Victoria in British Columbia. It initially looked like a website that our congregation could go to, to direct others on some jargon that we so often fill our evangelism with, and the church misses out.

It developed then into what we keep up to date. And yeah, in fact, the last time you were on, it was good to hear that.

People were discovering and enjoying that blog. And now that you are working with your father, Alan, with FAME, Friends of Africa Missionary Endeavor, please let our listeners know a bit.

About how this ministry came into being. Right. Well, I was born, as you said, in Northern Ireland. And my father, but in 1990, he went to Africa. He's from our church. He got of the African church, the people in Africa, whom we call our brothers.

And we had also missionaries in Kenya. So he had visited Kenya also. And so he got a heart for missions in Africa, and he traveled back and forward from 1990. And up until 1996, then he began this mission, Friends of Africa Missionary Endeavor.

And at that time, it was simply to help them in the farming, in medical training, and so forth. And so he died in 1996, and he began to develop.

And I'm sorry, I interrupted you.

Sorry. I might say also that in 1996, I myself, I had been there in 95 with him in that area. But in 1996, I went to Bible College. And then it came across to North America to study further the ministry disconnected from his work in Africa.

And it's only in the past.

Now, if you could tell us something about the specific area of Africa, that FAME is doing their outreach. And I believe it is primarily to children. But if you can give us something about the culture, the religion, and just some more detail about that specific area, because I know that Africa is not a monolith.

It's a very large continent with a variety of different cultures, and religions, and so forth, involving many countries. So if you could tell us about the specific area that FAME is working.

Right. The area that we work in, in a half hours, in that area, on false village region of Kenya, working against the elements, they're working against the work among these people. And you know, my new friend, Pastor Sam.

Oluwoch, or Oluwoch, I kept mispronouncing his name when he was on the program recently. He is a pastor in Kenya, and he expressed a lot of interest in meeting with you, and discussing further how perhaps FAME and his church can cooperate.

Yes, I heard that interview, part of that interview.

Yeah, he is the pastor of a Grace Baptist Church in Kisumu, or Kisumu.

Kisumu, yeah.

And in fact, I will make sure that you get the website and all that. In fact, I have it right here. This is for our listeners as well. A Grace Baptist Church, Kisumu, K-I-S-U-M-U, that's K-I-S as in Sam, M as in Michael, Kisumu .blogspot .com.

So it's Grace Baptist Church, K-I-S-U-M-U .blogspot .com. And Pastor Sam Oluwoch is the senior pastor there. But you have three main avenues which you are helping those in need in that area of Kenya.

You provide medical aid, child rescue, and evangelistic outreach. How specifically is FAME, we'll go through all of those, how is FAME providing medical aid?

The medical aid is, we began a copy of the gospel.

And when you have child rescue endeavors there, specifically, what does that mean?

The child rescue, we could say, is when we develop children or have died in childbirth.

Now, is that something that is rampant? Are there a lot of children just being left in the street,.

Even infants? Now, I know you can't be a mind reader in this regard, but have you been able.

To get some kind of a consensus on the average mother who is leaving their child in the street somewhere just to fend for itself or to die? From what you can grasp, are these women confident that someone is going to rescue these children, like a person who might leave a child on the doorstep of a church or a hospital or something?

Or are they just leaving there assuming that they're going to be killed? Or just perish from exposure or something?

I would say both. Many mothers who have been incapable of caring for their children will try to get somebody to care for them who is equally incapable. Aunts have tried to and can't care for alcoholism or drug abuse.

So there's multiple scenarios from which the I know there are also children on the street and in the towns and drugs running around with nothing, with nobody to care for them.

What kind of drug abuse is prevalent over there in that area?

Anything that I have seen back in the... My childhood was a big thing. It has developed obviously. They get their high. And one of the things that you do is evangelistic outreach.

We all appreciate those organizations that reach out to the impoverished with food, water, clothing, and shelter. But it's not really a Christian endeavor unless there's an evangelical outreach or an evangelistic outreach.

How specifically are you doing this?

Well, our outreach is a general Rodney Davidson motorbike. Now, what is the theological perspective of those ministers in charge of the preaching,.

Teaching, and training up the local folks in the gospel? Where are they coming from theologically?

Well, they're trained locally. One man in particular has been trained outside of Kenya. He studied with me 20 years ago. A good man, Titus Nzuka, reformed. And that's an area that we are Bible colleagues who are training them.

And that's why that's what I've got involved with in the path of Bible teaching. And that's an area that we need to develop.

We have two questions for you from Jenny in Ben Salem, Pennsylvania. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to read these questions to you. And I'm also going to email you her questions so you have them right in front of you.

And then you can answer them when we come back from the first break. Okay. The first question that Jenny from Ben Salem, Pennsylvania asks is, how would you briefly describe the kingdom of God in conjunction with the gospel for non-believers?

And our second question is, your missionary work in East Kenya through fame must face daily challenges, though I am sure that you reap great rewards in heaven for all that you and your fellow laborers do in carrying out Christ's commandments.

What are the toughest challenges you face in that part of Africa? And is there any guerrilla warfare in the region that the mission faces? And I'll email this to you. If anybody else would like to join us on the air with a question of your own, our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com.

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This is Chris Arnsen, if you just tuned us in. Our guest today for the full two hours is Aaron Dunlop, a native of Northern Ireland, a graduate of Geneva Reform Seminary in South Carolina, an author and founder of ThinkGospel .com.

We are discussing an organization founded by his father, Alan Dunlop, FAME, Friends of Africa Missionary Endeavor. Aaron's father, Alan, is also going to be speaking at the Foundations Conference in New York City this June 22nd through the 23rd.

I will be giving you more details on how you can register for that conference as well. I intend to be there, God willing. If you'd like to join us on the air with your own question for Aaron Dunlop, our email address is ChrisArnsen at gmail .com.

ChrisArnsen at gmail .com. Please give us your first name, your city and state, and your country of residence if you live outside of the USA. Before we went to the break, we had a listener in Ben Salem, Pennsylvania, Jenny.

She wrote in a couple of questions. She said, let's first of all go to her question, how would you briefly describe the kingdom of God in conjunction with the gospel for non-believers?

Thank you, Chris, Jenny, for the question. It's a massive question, so I like the way you put it. The kingdom of God, when I think of the kingdom of God in relation to unbelievers, I think of it in two categories.

God is sovereign over all. The fundamental sense of the word kingdom in the scriptures. Lucifer, of course, rebelled against God and established his own kingdom, according to Matthew 12 and verse 25 and following.

And so there are these two kingdoms, the battle of the ages ongoing. In evangelism, unless we inform the minds of those whom we are evangelizing of this point in presenting them with the kingdom of God's sovereign Mount Sinai, the law, and Mount Calvary, the grace that is presented in the gospel.

How would I briefly describe the kingdom of God in conjunction with the gospel for non-believers? I present them, first of all, we present them evangelistically, divided them up, and we taught them in the morning on the subject of Sinai and the law, which condemns them, and in the evening concerning Calvary.

And her second couple of questions are, she says, your missionary work in East Kenya.

Through fame must face daily challenges, though I am sure that you reap great rewards in heaven for all that you and your fellow laborers do in carrying out Christ's commands. What are the.

Toughest challenges you face in that part of Africa? Depends on which part of the world we're thinking at a particular time. If I'm thinking from my perspective, the Somalia and the Horn of Africa had not come.

They did come, and they were weak already, and then it changed. Really? That's right, yeah, just the day before I left. I didn't even know that that was a phenomenon,.

That rain would kill animals, unless, of course, it was some kind of a flood involved or some kind of a real serious storm with debris and trees and so on collapsing,.

But just the rain itself was killing the animals. Yeah, because they were already weakened, of course, by the, it wasn't the rain itself alone, they were weakened by the messiated, by lack of food, and so the change of climate and the rain did the last, and that was on the news just the day before I left.

So the drought at the minute is a major, major problem, and we have at the mission station there implemented famine relief at the minute to a village, and they'll preach the gospel already in place, an appeal out in Northern Ireland and America here, North America, to try and raise funds for that relief, and we're limited, of course, by funds.

Towards the end of that appeal, the rice would be a major... And her, Jenny from Ben Salem, Pennsylvania's third.

Question is, is there any guerrilla warfare in the region that the mission faces? Yes, I'm not sure.

If you remember a year ago, or maybe more than a year ago, at Garissa, about an hour north. Well, thank you,.

Jenny and Ben Salem, Pennsylvania. Keep listening to Iron, Sharp, and Ziron and spreading the word about the program in Pennsylvania and beyond. Well, since we were mentioning the drought and how a rain and change of weather actually killed many of the animals, tell us about the water tank project.

That FAME is involved in. At the center, and the tank is normally went to another area, we would like to minister water. There's a large, large area of a natural dam where we're in the rainy season, the water will be in the...

In that case, then dig what we call a shallow well. They dig a hole in it, and they're bringing out brown, dirty water. They're carrying that on donkeys for an hour hole. So their day is taken up by...

But a problem we have with the bore... In August, is the borehole sufficient... Village are looking... It's looking water from that borehole. We need to find out from the experts whether the water has gone down in the bore...

We have another listener, Linda in Hilltop Lake, Texas. She... I have to enlarge her email because the font is very small. And Linda in Hilltop Lake, Texas, says, please ask Brother Dunlop what the denominational situation is in Kenya, whether Anglican, Reformed, or Pentecostal, or other.

God bless FAME for spreading the gospel of Christ in that part of the world. And may he bless Iron Sharpens Iron for illuminating the Christian world about this.

Ministry. And that's Linda from Hilltop Lake, Texas. Yes, thank you, Linda. The denominational situation there, we work with a couple of... On the Presbyterian denomination within Kenya, the... Made the announcement that...

Now, what religious background was he from,.

Or denominational background? I think he was Baptist. Well, thank you so much, Linda from Hilltop Lakes, Texas, for your excellent question. Keep spreading the word about Iron Sharpens Iron Radio in Texas and beyond.

And we have a Christian in Suffolk County, New York, who says, what are you willing to overlook or compromise on, if anything, in regard to working with other churches and religions in regard to meeting the physical needs of those in the area in Kenya where you are working?

I understand that we can never compromise on the gospel of Jesus Christ or primary issues in the scriptures. But when you're faced in a situation like that, especially regarding physical needs, when life and death are at stake, are you willing to bend at all on theology and working hand in hand with those outside of your specific theological circles?

No, in the denominational mission, when we go into an area to... Go into an area to give medically a... We don't ask them what religion they are. That's not a question we ask. We give them the... And we preach the gospel as our catechist, as our evangelist.

These men are going out from our mission with reformed teaching and they're getting good reformed teaching at our center and through our mission. I think that Christian was not.

Asking about the recipients, because I'm sure you would help a Muslim or an atheist with physical needs. I think he was referring to those whom are helping you in providing the physical needs. Where would you draw the line in linking arms with an individual or a church or a religion or a group of people?

How sharp and clear are the lines or.

How soft are they? Evangelical reform.

Right, right. Well, of course, you would never compromise what you're believing or teaching. For instance, if, let's say, a Word of Faith Pentecostal group or even a liberal group says, we want to help you dig a well or we want to help you build a medical center or something like that, where they're involved in physical aid to you.

Would you accept that kind of aid from anyone, regardless of what they believe? I'm not talking about the recipients.

Okay, yeah. No, I'm not sure, because the scenario in that case comes out of Africa itself. So that we would have to discuss, I would not, without it having happened on the evangelical witness, and that's where we stand.

It's the same in North America, just as it would be in Africa. You raise your flag, you raise your banner, because your banner is up. Well, we're going to our midway break right now. If anybody else would.

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They want me to make these public appeals. I have gone many years without making a single mention on the air of a need for donations and new advertisers. But we have reached a crossroads at Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, and if we want to remain on the air, we need your help, not only through your donations, but if you know of a pastor, a leader in a parish church organization, or someone who is a doctor, a lawyer, a dentist, a chiropractor, somebody who is a business owner, a corporation owner, or somebody who is having a special event, or maybe you are one or some of these things, please email me at chrisarnson at gmail .com, chrisarnson at gmail .com, and let me know in the subject line that you would like to advertise.

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We also thank from the bottom of our hearts those of you who have already given to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio. Some of you, multiple times, some of you have made Iron Sharpens Iron Radio a part of your regular monthly giving, and we've been so excited to see that.