Releasing all those, I don't know as a podcaster what you do, but like, yeah, I think I started it in 2020, basically what happened is we had been part of the X29 network, and X29 had been pushing, kind of unbeknownst to me, I was pretty naive, a lot of woke stuff, and you know, they brought in Eric Mason to speak a lot, and all these other, to BD, and Russell Moore, and I was just kind of like, man, like, I'm young, so I guess I should trust my leaders, and trust what they're saying, and 2020 hits, and I just had kind of have to face reality, I think that happened to a lot of people, like, what is this, what have we been drinking, what kind of, you know, admixtures is that we've been putting in our system, our theology, and so once I kind of did a deep dive on a lot of the critical theory stuff, you know, I'll stand up late, I was like, I wonder what, you know, academics think of this, where are the academics, these people that we're supposed to respect, where are the DA Carsons, where are the kind of big names in evangelicalism, aren't they saying things, I'd like to talk to them, so I just started reaching out to professors from seminary, or other institutions, and I would get on the phone with them to ask them their thoughts, and I was like, man, I should publish these conversations, I wonder if anybody would be game to get on a podcast, because I think we're thinking at it at a level that's a little bit more philosophical and theological, and I'm trying to do it, at least back then, I was trying to do it in a way that was pretty, like, fair -minded, and I would say it's definitely shifted from the beginning, as I've learned and grown, because doing a podcast, what I found is it's like an accelerant, in terms of my own personal growth, as I kind of, I just want to have people on that I can learn from, or I'm curious to hear their thoughts more, maybe I've had that thought, but they're articulating it really well, or maybe they challenge something I've believed about democracy, or something like that, and so I try to do interviews with people that, you know, a lot of my friends are reading, whether my elders, hey, my elders are reading this book, why don't I talk to the author, and ask him questions I might have, or ask questions that my elders have, and people in my church, and so that's kind of the impetus for it, was kind of self -development, self -learning, and then sharing that kind of self -learning with others, and come to find out a lot of other people have the same questions I have, they're interested in that, it's been weird, because some people, it seems like the audience enjoys, like, when I just get on and kind of talk, and that's a little bit more, like, I like to prepare when I give a talk, anywhere, and so that takes more work, whereas if I just interview you about a book, you know, I can kind of, I can read your book, and I can have some questions, and that, then I get to let you talk, but some of the bigger episodes have been, like, when I talked about TGC, getting rid of all that guy who was a senior fellow with the Keller Institute, or something, anyways, that was, like, a really popular one, and then most recently, like, Rigney, and Wilson, and Oren McIntyre have been popular ones, so it's kind of an overlap between theology, philosophy, culture, politics, that kind of stuff, just stuff I'm interested in, it kind of naturally maps onto a lot of the PhD work I'm doing, and it's a way to get, I view it as, like, free consulting, because I get to promote their work, and I get to learn myself, and other people get to hopefully reap the benefits of that, so it's just been really fun, it is a little bit of work, you know, it's annoying to get on, and go to post, and you got to edit out where your guest, you know, coughed, or the feed dropped, and you got to export it, then you got to upload it, then you got to promote it, and then you got to, you know, follow up with people who email, so that's kind of the grunt work that I don't enjoy so much, if I could just do conversations all day, and then hand it off to somebody else, I would, but my podcast doesn't generate enough, I don't have the sponsors like you've got to where I can do that, and so maybe one day, but for now, it's just kind of a fun ride, and now we're up to, we got up to 100 ,000 downloads on the pod, and then we're almost up to 2 ,000 subscribers on YouTube, and so, man, it's just been a really fun way to learn myself, that's, people ask, who's your target audience, and I was like, me, you know, like, I, like, if I don't, that my interest, my curiosity, theologically, as a Christian, kind of drives the content, so that's kind of the gist of it.