The Equality Act: A Christian Overview

The Equality Act: A Christian Overview

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Well, welcome to another edition of The Wrap Report. I'm your host, Andrew Rapoport, with my co-host from the sunny land of Florida. Greetings, Andrew.

Are you feeling any wiser today? Oh, yeah, there's fresh hope every morning, right?

I was just thinking bud is wiser, you know, just bud-wise.

If you come in my office, you'll see I do have a neon bud sign. I don't have it turned on right now. And it is not, you know, the promotion of alcoholism. It's your name. It's my name.

All right. Well, to start off, before we get into our topic today, today we're going to deal with a topic that we really would prefer not to deal with. And we've had a couple of these type of topics we prefer not to deal with.

But we do this for you. So to help educate you on what's going on in the world, this topic will be on the Equality Act that is going through, I guess it's past, is it past the House? I think it needs 60 votes, which I don't think it's going to get.

But we're going to talk about this bill, the importance for you, especially as a Christian, to understand this bill and its effects. And how to have a Christian response to this and a Christian view of it.

So that's what we're going to deal with. Before we do, we got an email that someone sent in. So Rodney contacted us. This is a little bit of a longer email, so I'm going to chop it up. There's some things he's asking.

The main question he's asking we're going to answer, but there's a couple of things that are going to be educational for folks because there's things that are things he says that people think and we'll just need to give some corrections.

How to Address God

So he says, how should we address God? So that's really his main question. How do we address God? We do not know the correct pronunciation of the tetradermaton because of the ancient Israelites apparently only spoke it in the temple and even then only on specific holidays and after the Romans destroyed the temple, they no longer had, for lack of a better word, permission to do so and always said El Elohim Adonai or the like.

So before we get to his main question, how do we address God? I want to do this one correction here. Many people have this thinking that the name for God is the tetradermaton and that it was not spoken, and that's true.

It wasn't spoken. It wasn't, as he's saying, spoken only in the temple. It just wasn't spoken at all. They would replace it with Adonai. This is because of the second commandment to not speak God's name in vain.

So there's three names in the Old Testament for God. Elohim, El would be the singular version. Elohim is plural. So Elohim, Adonai, and what we might say is Yahweh or Jehovah, which is referring to the tetradermaton.

Now, as you look at those three, Adonai is used for men. It means Lord. You can have that being used for men. Elohim is not used in men. There's one place where it is used, referring to men as judges, and that's in Psalms, and the assumption there is that that's still, it's when men are acting in the role of God as a judge.

So Elohim would be the name for God. But when Moses in Exodus asked, what should he call you? He knows the names of the gods of Egypt. What is your name? He says, I am. I am that I am. And the I am is the tetradermaton.

So you could say, call him I am. That's really the language. I mean, we have the word Messiah. In Greek, it's Christ. In English, it's anointed one. So it really is a question of the language. So Jewish people didn't use that to not violate the, to use God's name in vain.

It wasn't that it was used in the temple. It wasn't used at all. And so, so how do we address? So he says, should we, should we be addressing the creator with a specific name or title, or would we be attempting to even say the personal name of God?

Be wrong. Should we only address him as God or Adonai? Or some, or is it somewhat of a Christian liberty in which he, he forgives us. If we address him correctly. Incorrectly, because he has promised to forgive us all our sins and cast them from the East is to the West and remember them no more because our faith in Jesus is doing sacrifice.

So let me again, just kind of give us some correction here. God doesn't forget our sin. He's omniscient. He knows everything when he uses the language saying that he's going to forget it. East from the West.

It's the idea. He's not going to bring it up anymore. Every sin we've ever committed was paid at the cross. According to Colossians, it was, that's where the payment was made. So they're all, all of our sins were future to the cross.

So it's, it's not an idea of that there's a, some sort of sin. Some people would say, well, we don't use God's name properly pronounced, but the question here is in what language, you know, you're going to have a different pronunciation based on the language.

So as you look, you know, what is it you're going to do? You have names that could be pronounced one way. And my name, Andrew, you know, would be different in Spanish than in English and English, where we'd say, Andrew, it's actually from the Greek, you know, but in Spanish, Andre, Andres, that's different.

Is it wrong? No, it's, it's a different, a different language has a different pronunciation. So if you call Christ Messiah, or you call Christ, Christ, is it a difference? Yeah. The difference is the language, but the meaning is still still the same.

The name is still the same. So I don't think there's a specific word, a specific way to, to answer it, but we have to use, you know, there's people that say, you have to say, you can't say Jesus, you say Yeshua.

And that's what his name would be. Yeah. And in, I guess, in really in Latin and where we get our derivative of, we call him Jesus, but it's the same name. So I don't, there's some people that get hung up, I think on the specifics of this specific name.

And I just don't think that that's, we don't want to go too far to say that it's a sin. When God has never said, use only this name for me. Yeah. And if he did, then the Jews would have been in sin for all those years, not using the name, substituting it out of a fear of not using it in pain.

They actually would be committing the sin of not using it properly. So if that was the case, I would think God would have said something about that. And we don't see him saying anything about that. So anything you want to add to that?

No, you know, I'm just thinking Paul says what was written, you know, before it was written for our destruction, God has revealed his name to us. And, and even if you go to Christ in the model prayer for disciples, for those who are regenerate, the model that we're using prayer is our father.

So that speaks to the personal nature of God and the familial nature in Christ that we have with him. Yeah, I think it wasn't revealed for us not to know, nor fail to use. There you go.

So with that, let's get into our topic and just to, you know, this is one of these things that I'm hoping, but that it doesn't put you to sleep, even though we're going to refer to an article that you wrote.

Well, Oh my goodness.

I apologize upfront. I've felt like I've needed to repent all week research this stuff because it is just so vile.

You, you, you went through it. So there's an article at striving for training .org. You can read the article. It's linked in the show notes, the equality act, a Christian overview titled the same as this podcast episode.

So if you read that, we're not going to have time to cover everything that, but put together in this, and this is law. You've edited it since I read it. And there's more in here. I can see,.

You know, seriously, I'm researching and I'm making my notes. I started this thing three or four times and deleted it and started over because I would, I would study something and I'm like, well, wow, this, we need to speak to this.

You need to be aware of the impact here and, and. Oh, there's this too. So yeah, this is pretty expansive. And, and I tried to cover a lot of ground about the potential impact that, that this, this monster would create throughout society.

And so, yeah, it's, it's not a fun read.

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You know what? There better be some royalties forthcoming. As a result of this, I'd just say get Lindell on the phone and make it happen. I am trying to get them on the phone. Actually.

I'm trying. But so let's, let's deal with the idea of the equality act. This is an act where it's what they're trying to do with this, just to bring people up to speed who may not be following the news.

Overview of the Equality Act

Basically what they're trying to do is take the civil rights laws that were passed back in the sixties and where you're not allowed to have discrimination, right? You can't discriminate against someone's race, the color of their skin.

There's only one human race, but how much melanin they have in their skin. You can't discriminate against someone if they're male or female. So when you, you go to hire someone at a job, it is illegal to basically hire someone or not hire someone based on the way they look is, is the idea.

And what they want to do is add into this sexual preferences, gender preferences, things like that. And what bud basically had done was go through all the different areas. This is going to affect, and there are a number of areas that are going to be affected by this.

And really you put a quote in here from John MacArthur that I think really does summarize what this bill is. Let me read that from John MacArthur quote, we're making laws to make the insane feel normal.

Laws are being made to criminalize, criminalize righteousness, unquote that quote. I mean, that's a great quote to use for this because that really summarizes this bill.

Oh yeah. That's exactly what this is doing. And technically it's, it's called a SOGI piece of legislation. SOGI, sexual orientation, gender identity. And, and you're right. What it does is amends the civil rights act in 1964 to make a subjective category, like what you think your gender is, or what you think your sexual orientation is.

Again, that's a very subjective thing to you. It's going to take and amend the civil rights act so that that subjective feeling is equated with something that is objectively valid, such as race or ethnicity or biologic binary gender.

So it's going to equate that. We're going to take something that is objective, amend it with something that is subjective, and that becomes a law of the land. And it has implications all over society.

And it certainly will have implications for Christians in society and the church as an institution.

Romans 1 and the Equality Act

And when we look at this, the one thing that I think we have to deal with in my opinion is what the scripture has. When we look at this, this bill I see only one scripture that comes to mind as we, we look at this.

And this is Romans chapter one. So if, if we can look at Romans chapter one, starting in verse 18, I'm going to read a lengthy portion of this because I want, I want folks to, to understand that this is what scripture predicted.

All right. So Romans chapter one, starting in verse 18 for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them for God made it evident to them for since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes, his power, his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen being understood through what has been made so that they are without excuse for, even though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations and their foolish heart was darkened professing to be wise.

They became fools and exchange the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four footed animals and crawling creatures. Therefore, God gave them over to the gate.

Sorry. Therefore, God gave them over in their lusts and their hearts to impurity so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For they exchange the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the creator who is blessed forever.

Amen. For this reason, God gave them over to a degrading passions for their women exchange the natural function for that, which is unnatural. And in the same way, also the men abandoned the natural function of women and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons, the due penalty in their error.

And just as they did not fit, see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind to do those things. Which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice.

They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful. And although they knew the ordinances of God, that those who practice such are worthy of death, they do not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to the practice of them.

That is the description of the equality act. Romans chapter one, 18 to 32. That really does, this lays out for us what we see when we speak of the equality act. This is people who have, they know God exists.

The evidence is there that God has revealed it to them. He's made it evident to them. They suppress that truth. And once you start suppressing truth, any error becomes true. You'll substitute any error for it.

And the thing you end up having is our country, our culture has gone this way. And what happens? People are saying, you know, is the equality act, you know, is this going to bring about God's judgment?

Well, no, according to what we just read, the equality act is God's judgment. It's not going to bring it about. We are already under God's judgment because God has already given over this, this country into the, the, the hands of wicked people that are now turning everything in where they want, as it says here, they want to give hearty approval to those who practice these evil deeds.

You know, when we look at homosexuality, it has morphed people used to describe it, that this was a curse. It was a sin. And that would be the biblical way of viewing this, but somewhere in, in the we've seen a change in our culture where it went from being a curse to a cross that had to be bared.

So they were bearing this cross. They couldn't help themselves. This is the way they're born is the argument would say that there's, there's no way to stop it. But in the last decade or so, we've gone from it being a curse to the cross to where now they would argue it is a crown.

It is something to be celebrated. And this act is that this act is the idea of celebrating as if they're the, they're wearing a crown of glory. It is giving, as the scripture says, giving hearty approval to those who practice them.

So as we go through this article that Bud has written, I want to just give, lay this out where we are scripturally in this. So we understand and why we see our culture doing what it does. You know, when you look and you read Romans there and you read 27, to 31, you're going to be like, wow, this is really sending a whole lot of, you know, or describing a whole lot of what our culture looks like.

And this is, this is everything that we see in culture or this whole list. This is what a culture looks like when they give themselves over to depravity, when, when they suppress the truth. And so, so with that, I'm going to give you, you wrote the article and I want to kind of let you start us off with some of the key points.

There's some, there's some areas I'm going to really want to focus in on when you start taking. You, you talk about the, the impact that this is going to have. So I want to give you just, if you can give us the overview of what you've written down, as far as what the act is.

And then I want to spend the remainder of our time in really the impact of it. Yeah, sure.

Let's just use the language of, of the bill itself. There's it's technically from the house. It's called house resolution. Number five, the short title of it is quote to prohibit discrimination on the basis of sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

And for other purposes. No wait, wait, that's the short title.

That's the short title. Short title. Okay. That's like, you know, I was, I was sending an email last night and I was trying to figure out the subject line. And my wife gave me something like this. I was like, the subject is supposed to be short.

Is it both? You know, like a few words,.

Not a whole sentence. Short title. What's the long title. The well. The long, the long description is this, and I will read it because I think we need to understand this. It's in the article. I've quoted it.

This comes from gov track. Us. It's a website that publishes the status of any kind of federal legislation that you want to look at, but here's what it describes the bill as it says, this bill prohibits discrimination based on sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity in areas, including public accommodations and facilities, education, federal funding, employment, housing credit, and the jury system.

Specifically the bill defines and includes sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity among the prohibited categories of discrimination or segregation. The bill expands the definition of public accommodations to include places or establishments that one.

Provide exhibitions, recreation, exercise, amusement gatherings, or displays and two goods services or programs or three transportation services. In conclusion, it says the bill also, the bill allows the department of justice to intervene in equal protection actions in federal court on account of sexual orientation or gender identity.

Now there's an, there's a key point that is omitted in this bill, which is. It amends like 59 different existing federal legislations, primarily the civil rights act, because we want to make sexual orientation, Gender identity equivalent to race or.

Sexual discrimination or age. Creed national origin, those kinds of things. We want to equate that with this bill or in this bill, but what this bill does not do. Is very telling the bill does not define.

What sexual orientation actually means. It leaves it incredibly subjective. To the whim of the individual. But it's, it's just a wicked act. It's going to have implications all over. It's, you know, it's going to attack the first amendment.

It's going to have economic impacts. It's going to have medical. I mean, major medical impacts, not only on adults, but also children. And that's another category that we kind of cover in the article.

Women. It's going to affect the language that you can use. It's going to affect the beliefs that you can defend. It's going to affect the behavior that you're going to be allowed or not allowed. So very comprehensive.

And I think what. I noticed that you brought it out. The fact that they don't define it. They don't define what sexual orientation is. Once this bill gets enacted. They're no longer. It becomes who gets to define it because they didn't define it in the bill.

So you're no longer going to be able to say polygamy is wrong. No. If I, if I, my sexual orientation is with animals, you can't say that's wrong. You're you're, you know,.

Men with little children. Well, and that's the thing. I woke up at three o 'clock this morning thinking, I've got to finish this article up. And what I woke up thinking about was what about pedophilia?

Correct. You know, are we defining that as a sexual orientation?

So, but they have. They don't call it pedophilia anymore. You're not allowed to use that term. It is now maps minor attracted people. Syndrome. Yeah. Right. So, so it's, I just have a minor attraction, attraction to minors.

That's all. And that's, that's the way they will argue. And without a definition, you're putting children at risk, you know, and we'll get to this with some of the implications of this. But one of the things is now you can't define who's a male and female.

So anyone, any man can go into any women's. You know, bathroom. Yeah. In locker rooms at gyms. I mean, we'll get to, I know I want to get to this later, but I'll just say it now. I think one of the things is, I mean, this is going to set back women's rights.

Completely. You're going to have women that will stop going to gyms. Because they're going to go into a gym with a shower and there's going to be a guy who just wants to look at the women getting undressed to go take a shower.

And you're going to tell me that some of those guys that are willing to do that are not going to be willing to, To then take the next step and rape a woman.

No, of course not. There have been cases where that's happened. I actually didn't put some of those in the article, but yeah, there've been cases where that has happened. And this law, if it's passed into law, we'll protect that man because all he's got to say is I identify as a woman.

Correct. He is immediately legally to be allowed access to that shower or to that restroom. This would, this would completely eradicate. Sex specific spaces.

But because they're trying to protect a certain group of people, what ends up happening is even if a rape does occur, as has happened. Because there was a case with someone who, a guy who raped a girl in a bathroom, but he identifies as a lesbian.

And so because of that, they, they protected him, the rapist, not the woman. So I, I think women are going to stop going to gyms places where they have to, where there's locker rooms like that. I think they're just going to, you know, they're not going to feel comfortable.

I'm already hearing there's places where girls go to school. They don't, they don't go into the bathroom. They try to hold it. They're trying not to drink water all day long because they don't want to go into the girl's bathroom anymore because they don't know who's going to be in there.

And it puts them in a vulnerable, you know, in between a classroom, your high school, the in between classes, not as many people are in the bathrooms. You have some guy just sitting in the bathroom, waiting for any girl to come in.

You know, this is like, this is, there's a reason we separate men and women's bathrooms. I mean, the, the, the really the only solution to the bathroom thing is to have everyone have a unit stalls. Everyone has an individual bathroom that you go in and you lock the door behind you.

And it's amazing that they, the same proponents of this argue that that would be discrimination. Like, how's that discriminating? That's not discriminating anybody. Everyone gets their own bathroom. You know, would that be an economic thing to have to change all the bathrooms?

Yes. But these companies that want to try to pass this bill and say, oh, we're going to, you know, let everyone use any bathroom they want. Well, that's still going to cause you problems, but I think it's going to set back women's sports.

It's going to set back just women's, what they could, what they feel comfortable with on an every day, just where they go. Are they going to feel comfortable going shopping and going to a restroom in a store?

I, you know, these, these are things they're not talking about. And then you get into the fact that it's not defined. Now you have some guy that says, well, I have an attraction to minors. He's going to be the one protected as he sexually abuses someone that may not be old enough to make that decision.

And you already see some of that happening. There was just some, I couldn't believe this, the consent teaching that's going on in middle schools. So they're teaching children now purportedly they're teaching them that they have the right to say no, but the obvious inverse is they also have the right to say yes.

And you've seen cases, or at least when I was researching this cases where you have a 14 year old who gives consent and a 21 year old has sex with her. The parents have no rights to litigate. They can't go after the guy.

It's not a criminal act. The 14 year old gave consent. Well,.

Here's why I have a problem with that. Oh, I have a problem with it too. No, but here's the thing that they don't consider in these laws. Grooming. Well, you and I addressed this on Apologetics Live when we talked about Ravi Zacharias, this whole idea of the grooming process.

We, I think we kind of touched on it when we covered Ravi Zacharias on our show, but the grooming is something that you, you get a 40 year old man with a 14 year old girl. Yeah. Can coax consent from her.

You know, you want evidence. You just look at Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, that's what this guy did. His whole argument was that they, they, they gave consent. He paid them. He gave them money. He made them feel that they had no other choice.

Ravi Zacharias got consent from the women. There's some, there's at least some report of one woman that didn't give consent, but the others did. That you can't say. So you're going to say that what he, what was done was not wrong.

Then you see, this is the problem when, when you say it's based on consent, you don't define things properly. And then, or you don't give a definition at all. Now you've just opened the floodgates to abusers to victimize.

Absolutely. Absolutely.

And with this, you would have legal protection, not for the parents, not for the child, but for that abuser. I mean, I mentioned one case, which is, is a precedent with regards to parental rights. You know, a 14 year old girl in Ohio who wanted to transition from female to male, the parents didn't want that.

They actually wanted the child to get dysphoria counseling. The judge, however, said, no, you can't do that. The child has determined that she wants to transition to a man. You have to provide her, you know, the hormone treatments and mastectomies and eventually took the parents rights away so that the 14 year old could pursue this.

So the agenda is extremely vigorous, both in the academic world, where it's being taught in K through 12 and certainly beyond, but it's already vigorously being pursued in, in the legal arena and the protections are not going where the protection should go, but that's because it's based on the sort of subjective ideology, which has absorbed the culture.

Yeah. Well, let's do get a break right after this break. What I'd like to do bud is I would like us to deal with the impact on this equality act right after this break.

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Impact on First Amendment Freedoms

So let's deal with the impact of the equality act. Now you, you, the first one that you mentioned here is, is, is the first amendment first amendment freedoms. You know, I, I let, let's just see that every, every aspect of the first amendment is going to be affected by this.

So let's read the, what the first amendment actually says, because unfortunately, but many people don't actually read the constitution and don't know the laws of our land. But quote, Congress shall make no law regarding an, an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or of the people, sorry, or of the right of the people peacefully to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, unquote, you know, every aspect of this is affected by this.

I mean, let's start with the, the not so much the establishing of a religion, but the prohibiting of the free speech. This is going to prohibit the, the exercise of, of religion. This is going to, to require that churches must hire those who, because those who practice homosexuality, because remember there was no, usually what you have with, with bills like this is you end up having a exception, a religious exemption.

And this doesn't have that.

It doesn't have it for a reason. Churches are the target. Yeah. Ultimately of course, churches are the target and, and this bill actually specifically excludes the RFRA, the religious freedom restoration act, which was passed in 1993, kind of to bolster the first amendment so that it adds strength to religious freedom.

But this act specifically excludes any appeal to that in defense of an accusation that may be brought against a business or an individual for discriminating against, you know, sexual orientation or gender identity.

You can't appeal to now this RFRA is exactly the act that was used in like the Hobby Lobby case with regards to the affordable care act and the contraception mandate. They argued this before the Supreme court and the Supreme court upheld it on the basis of a, an appeal to the RFRA, but this equality act specifically excludes.

It says you cannot appeal to RFRA for violations of the act. Unbelievable.

And when you think about it, so religion is going to be affected by this because they're going to, they're going to force churches to be celebrating homosexuality, which we could argue. If we look at this, that I think I can start to make an argument.

That's some of the, the, their views are the establishment, establishing of a religion that everyone must believe a religion of human secularism, but freedom of speech is going to be affected. We're not going to have the freedom to say that homosexuality is a sin.

Something that has been held to be known as true for 6 ,000 years is now going to be illegal, which also, by the way, folks will, will make illegal every Bible you own. There'll be illegal under this bill.

So your freedom of speech freedom of press. Well, the, the press will not be allowed to report on anything that will be against homosexuality or, or, I mean, you, you're not going to be able to get to be able to, to report any, any of these things that would be against the, this whole movement.

No. And you've already seen that the, the book, and I referenced it in the article with Amazon that what was the title of the.

Book? When, when, when. Harry. Sally, uh,.

And Amazon removed it, it's a conservative view. A look at the transgender movement.

It's a response to the transgender.

Yeah. And Amazon, they took it. They said the removal was based on the fact that they will not sell any books that quote that frame the LGBTQ plus identity as mental illness,.

Which, which is what it's been held as for years, especially the transgender ism has been held that way. And now it would be illegal to be able to report on that. So the press is going to be affected.

Um, you know, you look at each one of these things and it is going to have a massive impact on the first amendment. It's going to be completely restrictive, especially for the church. We'll get to that more detail of how, but you you're going to see that it's going to have an, an economic impact.

Economic Impact

Okay. Let me read a quote from that you have here from the heritage foundation quote, the equality act would force employers and workers to conform to new sexual norms or lose their businesses and jobs.

Unquote. The, the, the alliance for defending freedom States that quote, government officials have repeatedly used local and state SOGI laws to target and punish small business owners. Unquote. So, so this is where, you know, I've said this year for years and people are just now starting to realize it, but when Barack Obama said he wanted to fundamentally change America, people assumed he wanted to try to make it more socialist.

And he does, he, he did. He, and he does, but he knew he couldn't get there that quick. What he did was he spent his time focusing on the big tech companies, the, the, the major companies and getting them to push his CRT programs in their businesses to force that.