Matt Slick Live: July 22, 2024

The Antichrist, Political Ideology, and End-Times Control

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick. You're listening to Matt Slick Live. I hope you're all having a good day and that you have, or you had a good weekend. I did. And today's date for the listeners, podcasters, is July 22nd, 2022.

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So, um, as you guys know, as I tell you that I frequently go into chat rooms and, uh, I'm always targeted, uh, by a lot of people for a lot of different things, sometimes just for questions, but a lot of times for really nefarious kind of, um, comments and accusations.

Okay, whatever. And, uh, I was in a room with some atheists and we're discussing various things and it occurred to me to write an article on which political party the antichrist would belong.

To.

And so I did and I wrote the article and I released it and I wanted to go over it a little bit and talk about it to see what, uh, some of you might be thinking about it because I think it's an interesting, um, I think it's an interesting idea.

I do. I think it's an interesting idea to talk about, uh, which political party might the antichrist belong to. So not a big deal, but I'm going to share my screen here so that others can't. Let's see if I can do it this way.

Yeah, there we go. I think that works or is that one better or let's see this one. I'll do that one right there. Now, uh, anyway, so I did this, I released a video on, uh, that I did this already, but I released a video on, um, YouTube and rumble about this with the article.

I think it's important to us to consider this. So I'm going to be using this, uh, more and more talking with, uh, with people because Jesus or first John says a spirit of antichrist is already in the world.

And it occurred to me that, uh, the people I speak to so often are antichrists, particularly the atheists and the mockers and the liars and things like that. So what political aspects or aspirations does the, uh, the antichrist have according to the Bible?

Well, uh, I'm going to go through my article a little bit and get to those points, but, um, there's some aspects about the, uh, the antichrist. A lot of people don't know he's going to have a withered right arm and a blind in the right.

Eye.

He's going to receive a head injury and some think that he might be resurrected or a false kind of resurrection to mimic the resurrection of Christ and, uh, he will have great power.

All right.

So I'm going to go over some of this stuff. I'm going to read the, the verses that deal with this. This is out of Daniel 1137. He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other God for he will magnify himself above all.

Now he will have no regard for the desire of women. So this tells me that, uh, he's probably going to be homosexual. If he's homosexual, that means he would approve of the LGBTQ movement, wouldn't he?

Because he'd be right inside of that movement. So I would say that politically speaking, the antichrist would be pro LGBTQ. Also, since the antichrist activity would be in accord with Satan, uh, second Thessalonians two nine, and Jesus has Satan was a murderer, Johnny 24, then the killing of the unborn would be something he'd support.

So he'd be, so to speak, pro-choice. I hate that phrase pro-choice.

Yeah.

We're for a choice.

Yeah.

To kill the life in the womb.

Yeah.

Anyway, so, uh, as it says in second Thessalonians two nine, uh, he's the one who's coming in arrival is in accord with the activity of Satan and John eight 44. He was a murderer from the beginning. So he undoubtedly will be pro, uh, pro abortion.

And how about this? Um, one of the prophecies about the antichrist deals with his ambitions for worldwide economic control. All right. So he'd probably advocate for globalism, open borders, okay. A reduction of natural national sovereignty in a worldwide system of identification.

Now we can say that because, uh, he had to have his mark. So revelation 13 seven, it says it was also given to him to make war with the saints. We'll get to that later and to overcome them and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.

So he's going to be in economic control and he provides in revelation 13 17, uh, he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

We know the number of his name is six, six, six. So he would support a one world government.

Okay.

He would definitely do that. Now you could draw some more things out of it, but, uh, basics so far, what we have is he'd be pro LGBTQ, he'd be pro abortion. He would be in support of one world government.

Does this remind you of a political party yet? It does with me. And I'm not going to say which one I want you to decide what you think, because this could go into Europe as well. People could ask the same question.

Um, check this out. Now this is the idea that he will force compliance with his policies. As mentioned above, he will be in political control of many nations. So in light of this, it makes sense to say that he would seek to indoctrinate people into accepting his policies.

And how would he do that? Well, he would use schools, work, the media for liberal indoctrination. Hey, which party's doing that? In fact, his power and control will be so great that many people will even accept him as a divine figure.

A lot of people don't know that, but that is the case. Again, uh, let's go to revelation 1317. He provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

And here's where it says, uh, you'll get to this in Revelation 1312. He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and he makes the earth and all who dwell in it to worship the false beast whose fatal wound was healed.

So he's going to be looked at even as a divine figure. Now, the political parties that we're aware of don't do that yet. So I don't know. You know, um, now, well, I won't get into that. It's really stretching there.

So, uh, he would, uh, would want to force compliance. Well, obviously you can't buy or sell without his mark. I mean, he's going to force compliance and that's going to be done in a lot of ways. And he'll have control of the schools, the media and workplaces.

I see this in the workplaces, liberal places of the work. You know, you have to have a leftist values in order to continue to work. And how many of the leftists do you know of where they have attacked conservative groups and try to get banks to cancel their ability to even just do commerce?

You know, the left is so fair, isn't it? They want, they want fairness and compliance. They want to be able to have, uh, uh, they want to be able to have free speech for them. And if you don't agree with them, well, then you're the trouble.

And if silence you in the hypocrisy of the left, which political party is that to you? How about this one? He will use deception. Uh, the antichrist would employ deception to gain and maintain power. That second Thessalonians two nine says that is, that is he, he is the antichrist is the one who's coming is in accord with the activity of Satan with all power and signs and false wonders.

And second John seven for many deceivers have gone out into the world. Those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ is coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. Notice the antichrist is associated there with deception.

Now, is there a political party, uh, or movement that you know of where deception is, uh, very commonly used where deception is something that they do, you know, uh, a Russian disinformation, etc, etc, which party is using that as a form of control.

And here's another one. Um, uh, we'll make war with the Christians that was already mentioned, but I'll go into it a little bit more. Daniel seven, 25, he'll speak out against the most high and we're down the saints of the highest one, and he will intend to make alterations and times and laws.

Now that one, I got to study, uh, that one, I got to study. He's going to want to have a lot of laws changed now that'll be interesting to get into. But, uh, also in, again, a revelation 13 seven, it was also given to him to make war with the saints and overcome them.

So he's going to be against the Christians against the conservative Christians. He, uh, he's going to be an evil individual now. So let's review this really fast. So which political party would be the party of the antichrist pro LGBTQ pro abortion supports one world government will force compliance with his policies will use deception and we'll make war with the Christians.

All right. So, uh, which one does that bring to mind for you? But Hey, look, let me tell you something. The, uh, the scriptures tell us and something revelation, 1920 and 1411 and 1920 and the beast was seized and with him, the false prophet who performed signs in his presence by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped his image, that these, these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire, which burned with brimstone and then revelation 1411 and the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever.

They have no rest day and night. Those who worship the beast and his image and whoever receives the mark of his name. So something to think about. I think there's a lot of liberals out there who are in alignment politically, morally with the antichrist, and I have no problem saying that they will probably accept the mark of the beast when they, uh, when he arrives and, um, that they will be a gung.

Ho with them.

They'll offend at the Christians to, uh, persecute them. And this has already happened. That's another video to talk about. So I just want to tell you, you need to trust in Jesus and what he did on the cross to escape the coming judgment, because that's what the Bible says.

Those who joined with the antichrist and his movement and accept his mark and everything, they're going to be under eternal door, torment and judgment. And the only way to do that is to receive Christ as your savior, to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.

If you want to know more about what that means, go to carm .org forward slash gospel C-A-R-M dot O-R-G forward slash gospel. It'll forge you to a, an article I've written on the issue of the gospel.

It's in depth, but it's not too in depth. It's just enough to give you to understand really what's going on. It's about a three, four minute read and it's worth, uh, it's worth eternity, isn't.

It?

So there you go. May the Lord bless you on that. Let's get on the air and look, Oh, give the number out again. Eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. I want you to give me a call.

Propitiation and the Extent of the Atonement

We have three open lines. Let's get to a Ryan from Pennsylvania. Ryan, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, Matt, I have a question for you about a Bible verse. And after that, I also need your permission to repeat a quote of yours. I want to make sure that I'm doing it accurately. And, um, um, well, I don't want to misrepresent you.

So I think it's appropriate that I've, uh, repeated a quote of yours and see whether or not it still represents your position. Is that fair enough?

Sure. Sure.

Okay. Uh, first John two, two, and he is propitiation for our sins, but not only our sins, but for the sins of the whole world. How do you execute that and, um, um, cause it to apply only to the elect?

I don't cause it to, that's what it says. Oh, well, propitiation it's in the Greek. It's a loss. Moss propitiation is a sacrifice that removes wrath. It doesn't make it possible. It's accomplished by the issue of what is done.

It's not dependent upon someone else's action. That's what propitiation.

Okay.

So we'll have a break coming up. We'll get back from the break and I'll explain why it necessitates limited atonements. Otherwise I'll have universalism. We'll be right back folks. After these messages, please stay tuned.

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All right, buddy. Welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Ryan from Pennsylvania. Ryan, are you still there?

Yes, I am. Thanks for letting me wait.

Sure.

As I was saying, just to clarify, propitiation means that it's a sacrifice that actually removes the wrath. It actually does. So if it's done for every individual who ever lived, they have to go to heaven because the wrath is gone.

Okay. All right. Hang on. He is propitiation for our sins. Who is our sins there?

Uh, the, uh, the Jews and anybody else who would be there, uh, believing.

Yep.

And who hasn't.

Okay.

Not only our sins. Okay. And not only for ours, ours only. Who's that referring to?

Well, the believers right there.

Yeah.

But also for the sins of the whole world. Who's that referring to?

Not just the Jews, because Jesus was sent in Matthew 15, 24. He was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And the Jews understood that the Messiah was only for Israel, only for the nation of Israel.

Come on, Matt. So it's, you know, that Matthew's purpose is different than John's, you know, that they're different writers in different contexts. The fact of the matter is he has propitiation for our sins, which is believers, not only our sins, which is believers, but for sins of the whole world, which is more than just believers.

And it's just that simple.

So it's actually, you have to understand the theological perspective that all of the scripture is together. And did is did Jesus say he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel or did he not?

Well, and Matthew, you know that the emphasis of Matthew is different than the emphasis of John, you know, that, you know, that if you take the hang on, you know very well, if you to take the perspective of Matthew and impose it upon John, it's I said, Jesus, you know, that's no, it's no, it's not.

You're making a mistake there. So look, did Jesus say in Matthew 15, 24, I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Is that what he said?

Sure.

OK, the house of Israel is the nation of Israel. So covenantally, he was only sent to Israel. Israel broke the covenant. We, the Gentiles, are grafted in. Now, the word propitiation means the sacrifice that turns away wrath.

All right.

It doesn't make it possible. It's accomplished. OK, so did he turn away the wrath of every individual who ever lived?

Yes.

OK, so then does anybody go to hell?

Yes.

So how do you have the wrath of God turned away from you while you also experience the wrath of God?

The writings of John tell us this also, they love darkness more than they love.

Light.

But they have wrath of God because Christ died for them all.

It doesn't make any difference. The wrath of God has been removed from them. So wrath of God is due to their sin, their rebellion. So if you're going to say the wrath of God has been appreciated, that means it's removed from everybody.

Then you have to have the doctrine of universalism.

No, that's not the case at all, because Christ died for all does not necessitate that all is saved. That is the mistake that you are making. And it's a straw man argument. OK, you are. You have abandoned.

What does it mean to die for all? What does that mean?

Well, depends upon the context and John one twenty nine. It means all of creation and John three sixteen and seventeen. It means all of mankind. And in John's first John two, two, it means all of mankind.

So he died for everybody's sin. He bore everybody's sin.

That's correct.

What do you do with first Samuel. Three fourteen?

OK, well, if you haven't noticed first. Well, if you haven't noticed Samuel first Samuel three fourteen is in the old Testament. It's a different context, a different writer. And it has a different meaning.

That is not the purpose of John and the gospel of John, nor in the letters of.

John. Well, wait a minute. Is it not the case that when God speaks about something, that we should include it in our understanding of Scripture? Because I can read what God says about atonement. And he makes an interesting statement, because God says, therefore, I've sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever.

All right. And sacrifice atoning and sacrifice is different in the Old Testament than it is in the New Testament. You know, that's it says the covenant is different in the New Testament.

You know, that it says forever is Jesus a sacrifice. It was his death on the cross, a sacrifice.

Of course, we have that in first very clearly in first and John one twenty nine.

OK, so when God says the iniquities of Eli's house will not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever, does the term forever include Jesus sacrifice?

Well, if you once again for Samuel is a different context and they have a different understanding of what atonement means. And during that time, that was the the slaying of the lambs and the whole governmental process they had in the Old Testament.

That is not applicable in the New Testament. You know, that's good. You know, you don't you don't take things out of context and impose it upon a foreign context. You know, this map it God's talking.

He says, I think God understands the context. I think he understands atonement. He says, I've sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever.

Does that include Jesus sacrifice?

No, of course not, because atonement and sacrifice meant something different in the Old Testament than it does today. And we have that abundantly clear, abundantly clear in John one twenty nine. You know this, you know, you are taking a foreign context and imposing it upon John.

When you go to Matthew, you know that that it's a different context, a different writer and a different purpose. And you're imposing those things upon this verse. And that is the definition of Jesus. You know this.

We sure are saying, you know, this a lot. So when God says that the iniquity of Eli's house will not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever, it actually means they will be atoned for by sacrifice later on in.

Jesus. Right. Once again, their understanding of atonement, their understanding of sacrifice, their understanding of offering is different than what it is in the New.

Testament. You know that it's God talking, it's God talking. And so God says this, he says that their sins will not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever. Do you think God understood what was going on?

Well, it was also God talking in first John to to when it says not only our sins, but for the sins of the entire world, it was also God talking in John one twenty nine when it says he was the lamb of God, which comes to take away the sin of the world.

And so, you know, you're trying to you're the you're trying to take a foreign context from the Old Testament and impose it upon something in the New Testament.

Well, I don't know about that. I mean, just I know just know that God said that the sins of that house wouldn't be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever. So what I believe is that the sins of the house will not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever.

That's just what I believe. So I don't know. So well, I don't believe that a person.

John. Well, when you John says his propitiation for our sins and not only our sins, but for the sins of the whole world, apparently you don't believe that because if you believe that, you would believe that the sacrifice of Christ was more than just for.

Believers. So what does the word world mean there?

The world means the all of all of mankind. Oh, you know that. Because it is very clear, this is not only ours, which is believers and for the sins of the whole world, which is believers and then some which is nonbelievers.

Just like John one twenty nine is completely consistent with it.

OK, so that means every individual to you. OK, so then propitiation means the sacrifice that removes wrath. So let me ask you, did he remove the wrath of those who are judged to eternal damnation? Yes.

We've got a break coming up, we got to follow up on this. This is great. And then we'll get to another verse. Hey, folks, if you want to hold frame, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned.

It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

All right. And welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Ryan. Are you still there?

Yes, I am. Thank you very much. I appreciate you letting me continue with this. Before we go on, do you mind if I ask your permission to repeat a quote of yours and make sure that it is an accurate quote?

Sure. Go ahead. A while back, you made the statement on your show on this show. Quote, if there are any infant or any babies that die in infancy that are in hell, they're there because they deserve. Is that still an accurate understanding of your current position?

I would say that if there's any babies in hell, it's because it's the right thing for God to do to send them there.

OK, so once again, this was your original quote, is if there are babies that die in infancy that are in hell, they are there because they deserve it.

Is that? Yeah, I would say so, because because they're made sinners in the fall of Adam, we are all by nature children of wrath. So it would be something that belonged to them as it belongs to all people who are born in Adam, which First Corinthians 1522 says in Adam all die in Romans.

It's going to be in Ephesians two, three. We are by nature children of wrath. So, yeah, and because of the of the righteous judgment of God, that they would be there if that if it occurs.

OK, by the way, your buddy Charlie just entered something into the chat and your buddy Charlie is lying through his teeth right now.

Let's let's let's stop that. Let's stop that. Let's stop that. I want to stick on topic. OK, let's not do that.

So. All right.

So so you're telling me that propitiation, which means a sacrifice that removes wrath, you mean then that that he removed the wrath of those who are damned?

Well, OK, according to what you posted up there, there was three different ideas about what propitiation means. You posted it up on your screen and there are three different ways of describing it. OK, you're picking one of those and saying that's what it means here.

When there are three options that you're and you're choosing the one that is going to be most adherent to your own theology that you have imposed. But anyway, once again, it's not true.

It's not true. I just looked at the definitions like it means turning away of anger by the offering of a gift. That's in Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible. Nineteen eighty eight in the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia says removal of wrath by the offering of a gift.

So I said, oh, look at that. So that's a propitiation. That's how I learned it. Right.

OK. Yes. So. So, yes, Christ turned back the wrath of all of mankind.

OK, because all of our people in hell, if the wrath has been removed.

Well, because they love the darkness more than they love the light, just like it tells us in the first chapter of John's gospel.

So the wrath of God's removed from them, but it's also not removed from them.

Right. Well, the that is why no man is without excuse, because if Christ did not sacrifice for all, then someone has an excuse and say, well, the reason I'm here is not my fault. It's your fault because you didn't die for me.

This removes any excuse from them being condemned. And so the simple biblical fact is that Christ created all things, all things fell without him. Christ loved all things. Christ died for all things. Christ is present in all things, revealing God to all things.

OK, so sin is breaking the law of God. First John three, four. Sin is lawlessness.

That's not all it is, Bill.

It's not all it is, but it is that. And Jesus says our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. In Matthew six, twelve, he said, forgive us our debts. And in the parallel, Luke, eleven, four, he said, forgive us our sin.

Would you agree that Jesus equated sin with legal debt?

In that particular passage, yes, but in other passages, not just associated with debt.

So in Colossians two, 13, the last part of it, it says he made you alive together with him, having forgiven us all our transgressions. And then verse 14, having canceled out the certificate of debt, consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us.

He's taken it out of the way, having nailed to the cross. What is a certificate of debt that he canceled?

Well, the certificate of debt is obviously the in that particular passage of Colossians. That's something that Paul uses that way. And you know this and there are other passages that refers to the grace of God being more than just for the forgiveness of sins, such as Romans five, 20, where sin has abounded.

Grace has abounded even more.

I just asked what's the idea of what's a certificate of debt he canceled?

What's the debt? Obviously, a sin, obviously.

OK, so it says having canceled it, having nailed it to the cross. So when did he cancel the sin debt?

Obviously, when he was when he was sacrificed, obviously, there you go. That's propitiation. That's not the only aspect of the sacrifice of Christ. So everybody who ever lived to Christ, did he cancel it for everyone?

Oh, he did. So he canceled the sin debt for everyone who ever lived. And he removed the wrath of God from everyone who ever lived. And yet, apparently, they still have sin and the wrath of God upon them because they go to judgment.

How does that work?

Again, because they love the darkness more than the light, just exactly as John tells you. And if you if you are consistent with what you're saying about the about the sacrifice of Christ, that it's only limited to the elect, OK, then you're going to have very serious problems like you've already shown.

You cannot exegete John 1, 1st John 2, 2. You cannot exegete John 1, 29. You cannot exegete John 3, 16. You cannot exegete 1st Peter 3, 9. You cannot exegete a whole slew of passages that clearly show that the sacrifice of Christ is more than just for the elect.

OK, so you're wrong about that. But so did he take away the sin of every individual who ever lived according to the law? Yes. I mean, John 1, 29. So he took away their sin. How do they go to hell then if they took away their sin?

If God did well, if you had studied the the prologue of John, you know that take it the way is different than propitiation. You would know that is different than atonement. And take it the way is an idiom that comes from the Aramaic, and it is not for the forgiveness of sins, but it is, again, a it's it's actually expiation.

And expiation is something that the sacrifice of Christ is applied to all of creation. So when he says, behold, the Lamb of God, which take away the sin of the world, notice that it is singular. It's referring to the fallenness of all things.

You're just going on and on. I'm just asking simple questions. So you're saying he took away the sin of every individual. How does someone go to hell if their sins taken away?

I just told you because they love the darkness more than they love that sin, that sin.

So it's taken away. So how do they go to hell for that if it's taken away?

I just told you the sacrifice of Christ is there to to make salvation available. But if they are it's mistaken.

So it's available depending upon what we do. So did Christ remove the sin that at the cross or not? Yes, it is not dependent upon what we do, is it? You're a humanist.

Well, the salvation is completely because of Christ. If you know this, the the light of Christ is in all of mankind. He was the true light, the light of every man that comes into the world.

We're talking about the issue of the sin debt. OK, he canceled it at the cross. It's not canceled when you believe. Did you know that?

Well, you didn't have a notice. Salvation begins when you believe.

What occurs when we believe biblically?

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and he is risen from the dead and thou shalt be.