Mormon Missionaries at the Door

Webcasting around the world from the desert metropolis of Phoenix, Arizona. This is the dividing line. The Apostle Peter commanded Christians to be ready to give a defense for the hope that is within us.

Yet to give that answer with gentleness and reverence. Our host is dr. James white director of Alpha Omega ministries and an elder at the Phoenix reformed Baptist Church. This is a live program and we invite your participation.

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A Chance Encounter With Mormon Missionaries

Well and good evening and welcome to the dividing line. My name is James white and I'm just thinking about a time. I was sitting we used to have we used to have offices. They were sort of public offices in the sense that there was a you know.

You could just walk in and I remember I remember sitting in my office once I looked out and here came these Jehovah's Witnesses and they came up the stairs and and right right into our office and we've got a sign right there, you know, and They came in and sat down in our front office and man we started talking.

And I remember that was the time the guy told me that no one had believed in the deity of Christ until the 12th century. I found that one a very very interesting fascinating particular discussion, but something like that sort of just happened.

I Had gone home. It is. Its crunch time. Okay tomorrow night in 26 hours. Well, is that the same time up there I think was the same time as Utah right now it changes over the weekend anyways about 26 hours from now a Debate will begin at the University of Utah between myself and our Dennis Potter on the nature of the atonement substitutionary atonement does the death of Christ perfect anyone and then 24 hours after that Robertson Jennison, I'll be facing off in the mass as a perpetuatory sacrifice and So it's crunch time.

I am busily packing things up printing things out. Putting together notes and you know all the rest that same time the same type of stuff and and so I'm pretty busy. And so I decided to run home about 415 grab a bowl of cereal or something like that before the program so that I can come straight back to the house get a workout in with my son and Finish my packing and be ready to get up very early in the morning to head for Salt Lake City.

And I was just reaching for my cereal bowl. When out of the corner of my eye look out the front door and who's walking past my house but two Mormon missionaries and so I Thought I wonder if they're gonna come up here because sometimes they don't sometimes they just walk right on by.

Because ooh, it's that house. But no now they came right up to the door and We and I've just started doing this people ask me. You know what how do you? How do you approach these folks? How how do you get a conversation start with Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons?

You know what I do anymore. I tell them exactly who I am and what I'm doing that. That's just what I've and I have found that it works. Really? Well, I said hey, this is this is funny. I'm Getting ready to leave tomorrow morning to go to the University of Utah.

In fact, it was funny. It's funny how they started the the missionary said so have you ever seen? missionaries like us before. And I'm like well Yeah, a couple thousand of you since I first talked to elders Reed and Reese back in 1982 and the guy goes that was before I was born.

So Horrifically old at that particular point in time as soon as it was before I was born. Oh anyways We had a nice conversation. I'm trying to get hold of mr. Pierce's attention, but he's not paying any attention to me at all anyways.

Trying to get a little more volume in the old headsets here, but hey, he's talking to somebody else I'm not all that important at this particular point in time. He just knows I'll just talk and talk and talk and it's no big deal.

Thank you very much. That's a little bit better. Anyways, I Just told him exactly What I what you know, we're going up there. These are debates. We're gonna do these the debates we've done and then I mentioned a little book that I wrote and One of them said I'd really like to see that.

So hey, you know what? Come on over. Come on over. So they're just standing five feet from where I am right now I'm showing him my LDS library gave him both copies letters to a Mormon elder. It was great.

Just just had a grand old time Tolberg. We doing the webcast, you know and Days left about five minutes ago. I sat down here and now I just told you all about it. So. But they left with copies of letters to a Mormon elder in their backpacks and let's Let's hope and pray that they will they will accomplish what well, you know what I gotta share this with you I was climbing Squaw Peak Monday morning.

I Did I mention this on Tuesday, you know. Sometimes I start losing track of what I've mentioned what I haven't who I've told and who I haven't. I don't think I mentioned this on Tuesday. On the dividing line since we were late getting it started but on Monday morning, I'm climbing Squaw Peak and I hear someone mentioning I use these hiking poles and I heard someone up ahead of me on the trail a little ways.

Mentioning something about poles and then as the guy one guy was coming down. He was asking someone going up where they had gotten him. And so I looked up I saw the guy. I said, yeah I got mine at REI, you know, they're over in Tempe and they they were great.

Take 30 of the weight off of your Take 30 off of the weight off your knees. You're coming down the hill. They're great. And I looked a little bit closer at the guy and I normally don't look at folks on climbing Squaw Peak if you ever climb Squaw Peak, you know why because if you're looking at people you're gonna fall off and die.

So but I looked at the guy and I I realized I know this man. And it's been a long time, but I know this man. So I stopped him. I said, I know you. And he looked at me and you got it realize. Actually, I think I spoke with this fell about 1985.

Okay, so it's been a while and I've changed. You know, I had hair. I had glasses big glasses. I'm wearing massive Oakley Pro M frames bald as a cue ball and. So he's looking at me with a real puzzle look but he hadn't changed early at all and I'm looking at him.

I go. He says where do you work? I told him Alpha Omega Ministries. I said you ever go to North Phoenix Baptist Church, and he goes James. I said, yeah, and I shook his hand. This was the first Mormon missionary I ever led to Christ.

Let him out of the church. He's still out this was 18 years ago now and It was really exciting. To get a chance to meet him. We didn't get a chance to talk for a long time we're sort of an awkward spot in the trail there wasn't a lot of room, but he when he left he shook my hand and he said Thank you so much for what you did for me and what you've done for so many others.

And I just about ran up the rest of the trail to the top because I was I was Cranked at that particular point in time and very encouraged and it was it was really neat. So So like I said, you know, you never know Where where those books are gonna go where those tracks gonna go stuff like that.

So Pray for those two more missionaries. They all know God knows who they are. So just pray for the two more missionaries that dr. White just spoke to and Pray that those books will make it home at least and won't get thrown out or something like that.

Or burned as I've had some things that I've given to more missionaries in the past take that that's happened then too. So Anyhow, eight seven seven seven five three thirty three forty one. We already have one caller online so if you want to get in today you have questions and Comments and stuff about whatever feel free to Watching.

I'm watching people giving a blow-by-blow Discussion of what I'm saying in the channel because somebody for some reason can't get their real audio to work. Boy talk about doing it the old-fashioned way.

Anyways, eight seven seven seven five three three three four one if you'd like to call in make some comments I'm holding the brand new current edition of the Christian Research Journal. Which one is this?

Volume 25 number three two thousand and three whatever that means and as normally very very well done and If you open it right up to the middle And right where the staple is in the middle of the thing you will see the article is entitled examining Muslim apologetics and If you look at it on one side has the Bible.

Yes I have the Quran somehow they managed to find almost identical editions of the two so they look very much the same and it's by yours truly and it is a It is a discussion of the differences in textual background and Perspective in regards to the the Bible and the Quran and so that's in the current edition of the Christian Research Journal.

If you do not subscribe then you might want to get hold of this one if that sounds like something that's interesting to you little article we wrote there, so let's go ahead and Start clearing the lines from the many people who are calling in actually there's just one moment.

But if you'd like to call in at eight seven seven seven five three three three four one remember. This is only an hour long program these days. We do two hours a week, so you get more per week than you did before more per month.

But it's only an hour at a particular Run there, so let's go ahead and talk with Harry in Pennsylvania hello Harry.

Good hey listen. I just before I ask the question. I just I just have to thank you greatly somebody Recommended to me Dave hunts book what love is this and I just did an internet search and found the open letter and It greatly intrigued me.

This is about nine weeks. Maybe ten weeks ago and Boy when I started to read your letter and just started to see all the misrepresentations. And I'm actually a pastor, and I didn't realize my understanding of Calvinism was so thwarted and and Since then I've read in Potter's freedom listen to a lot of your mp3s reading Bettner's book and and The grace book by Boyce and and Reichen and you know it almost feels like a second conversion experience.

It has been absolutely marvelous. You know I'm so excited to Play in a church about six years ago run about 253 and I just wanted to turn it around and preach the true doctrines of It has been it has just been marvelous so brother.

You have no idea what a blessing. Well.

Well, I I do in the sense that I recall of my own coming to understand those things and I've had such a wonderful blessing and being able to introduce many other people to those things I've also I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell you straight up.

I have encountered many a person who has then in seeking to explain these to others been simply amazed at the emotional response the unwillingness to To consider the text of Scripture and especially in churches.

I can I can tell you about two pastors right now who are either in different churches or are looking to get back in the ministry because they they sought to bring Reformation to their churches and the people in the churches would not have it and As a result they they then had to leave and Now they're not they they jokingly blame me but they do so in the sense of of you know I'm very thankful that you caused me to think through these things and and Focus what ministry is supposed to be out and things like that, but still it's been it's been a challenge for them.

And I know that that I ended up at a different church after trying and Seeking to be faithful. I mean I don't leave a place easily and But eventually the the issue of consistency forced me to be in a place where There was a consistency between what I was saying and what was being preached from the pulpit And I I'm very very thankful that there was a church in my area where I could go Where that would be the case for some folks that's a difficult thing so I I pray that God will bless you that You know I have a good friend John Sampson here in the Phoenix area a new American former former Brit and He's doing the same thing in his church, and he's bringing these things out to folks and and so far they've shown a real willingness to Follow the Word of God, and that's that's what you've got to find out if your people Want to know the Word of God and be in obedience to the Word of God Then it's just simply a matter of time and being faithful and applying these things to the entirety of the of the Christian life.

Unfortunately if you've got a large contingent of folks that primarily believe what they believe on the basis of tradition Rather than a love for the Word of God. That's when Issues become difficult that's been my experience anyways, but that wasn't even your question.

But I thought I'd tell you about it, and I really appreciate that too already. I mean, I just feel so fired up about it all and in I'm actually doing a Sunday school which I normally don't and just preaching on the attributes of God the The sovereignty of God, and I'm just finding it all over the scriptures.

I appreciate it ecstatically, and I can't believe the way the passages are jumping out that I never saw before. Have you hit.

Have you hit Isaiah 6 yet?

In fact I'm going to be hitting Isaiah 6 because I'm in Revelation 4 this week. Well there you go.

I mean I used to have a little tagline on some of the emails I'd send out. May God grant you an interview. And then I put Job 38 through 40 and. And how God Asked Job. All of these rhetorical questions that had no answers.

Where were you when I did this. Where were you. And I did this. There is as you know. When God reveals himself to us through his word in that that gracious way. We are changed we we are we do not see others or ourselves or God in the same way ever again.

And We can't help but want to share that with those around us especially those who are the closest to us. In that relationship of you are a pastor you have a pastor's heart. You want to teach the Word of God.

And you want them to have the same? Experience of the seeing the holiness of God. Have you seen Sproul's book the holiness of God. Hello. Hello, did we lose everybody here big man on the other side of the wall?

Lost the collar. Oh, please call back. III would love to get the Harry give us a call back. I'm not sure what happened there, but we can get Harry back. Hopefully we actually we have two lines busy, so is there still one open he can get to.

I hope so Harry give us a call back. Would love to continue that conversation. I was going to say hey. Track down the holiness of God by RC Sproul. I read that during the same period of time that you're describing in your own life.

And and could not put it down. Had to read it in one night. Had a had a tremendous impact on it. Really did. So are we going to be able to go to other callers? Or what do you what are you gonna? How are we going to handle this here?

Yes, I guess that means we're good. Other colors. Harry give us a call back. We'll handle your question about Cornelius. When you get a chance to call back Howard in Scott City, Kansas. Howard are you there?

How are you sir?

Good talk to you. I'm I really want to say first of all thank you for the Potter's freedom. It kind of made me to. I guess I was a closet Calvinist, and it kind of set me free from the closet. A closet Calvinist.

And I do lay preaching out here in Western, Kansas on behalf. Oh, and it is really a helped me out quite a bit.

I used to drive every single summer when I was a kid while I wasn't driving because I was a kid. But to Kinsley, Kansas the south of Lawrence. Off of this off of 70 there. That's more in the central area, but all I remember is it was really really flat.

Yeah.

But actually it's not as flat as it is out in Western, Kansas right. And anyway my question for you today is To go to that. I'm actually taking there, and they're doing extension program over the internet.

Oh, I see and it's the first all my professors idea. Sure yeah. And I I'm trying to none of them have given me any explanation of scripture for it. Everybody just seems to assert it and I I can't really figure I can actually quote it illogical.

But I can never get pasture when the Bible talks of the elect. I focus is that saying that Jesus is the elect one.

Yeah, is that what they're all trying to say yeah in essence and and what it allows folks to do is to is to say Yes, I am dealing with the election passages. However. I'm also holding to a form of either libertarian free will or Some strong form of free will at the same time and and I just want to allow the tension to exist.

I don't want to over Theologize the the text of scripture and come up with a systematic theology. I just want to let these Tensions exist and that was real popular when I was in seminary. Basically the term tension was used for when a professor was saying the Bible contradicts itself.

Yeah, that's not not saying it's necessarily what they're saying, but it sounds very. There's something right about how it sounds. The problem is as you yourself have noticed. You say well, where does the Bible say Jesus the elect one and there's there's one place when he's called the choice elect cornerstone over in Peter's epistles.

And that's not in Ephesians 1 though. It's imported in by most people into Ephesians 1 as if that somehow was part of Paul thinking. But in reality when you have the verb elected or chosen the direct object is always personal.

It's us and the sphere in which it takes place is in Christ. There's no election outside of Christ, but it is very confusing to me as well as to why? Someone Cannot see that the choice is in Christ and it's in union with Christ, but Christ is not the one who's chosen.

It really doesn't answer any questions and and the fundamental answer to your question as I have heard I've discovered over the years is this is another example where you have tradition. That that in essence Destroys exegesis or at least allows a person not to engage in it.

And so you may have individuals who you know, I don't know if you've listened to the Programs we did. Oh, I think it was last summer Where I responded to Adrian Rogers. Yeah, and I pointed out in one of those programs That when he was going through Romans chapter 8 verses 29 through 30 August last year, thank you that when he got to the subject of justification he did a tremendous job on Justification he didn't do a tremendous job in seeing how that fit in Romans 8 29 to 30.

But you see talking about justification when he's talking about did not impact his tradition and so his exegesis was great. But then as soon as he got back into the context of divine sovereignty and election all of a sudden the exegesis fell apart again.

Now what can explain that is this something that's being done purposefully? No, it's very obvious to me That Adrian Rogers and many other individuals have at a point in time in their past adopted a particular Tradition they do not feel any Major pressure to re-examine that tradition.

They just keep referring to it when encountering those passages when encountering questions from students such as yourself and They move on from there and until there is something something happens in their lives.

That's going to force them to really think through these things. They just keep doing that and I think that Adrian Rogers He he heard these answers long long ago, and he's just stuck with them and in my experience Generally, they don't listen to the questions are being asked to realize that their answers really are not giving an answer to the question and Instead they tend to start thinking well If this person really starts pushing this Then this person sort of is a little bit unbalanced and you know There's sort of a they're a hyper Calvinist or something like that and it's really not the case at all.

So I really think that what you see there is the power of tradition and you see it I think I've obviously from my perspective the greatest example of this and that I've encountered is Dave Hunt the power of tradition just absolutely Keeping him from hearing anything that said to him it will have less effect upon others.

But still it's the issue of tradition and wouldn't But see realize the There's a there's something I said to Dave Hunt a long time ago that I think people really need to hear and that is When we were discussing a passage of scripture and he was he was giving me a response on a passage of scripture that was not Exegetical it was not derived from the text.

It was Isogentical was being read into the text and I said Dave that's your tradition speaking and he said to me James I have no traditions and I said Dave The man who thinks he has no traditions is the man who is the most enslaved to his traditions.

And so what you just asked is well, wait a minute if that don't they see the relationship between scripture in their tradition. Well, they would say so in fact, I can't hardly think of hardly anyone. It's southwestern.

Who would not affirm solo scriptura and the ultimate authority of scripture. However, if You don't realize that you have a tradition in a particular area Then you're not going to examine it and you're not going to see that in essence.

You're violating a solo scriptura by elevating your tradition because you don't know it's a tradition. You just think it's an interpretation. But in reality, it's a tradition that's been delivered to you.

It's not based upon the text. I mean, I Don't know if you've heard the debate that I did with John Sanders who is a avowed Armenian On the subject of inclusivism, but when I asked this man, this is a PhD teaching systematic theology and Christian doctrine at Huntington Christian College.

When I asked him about John chapter 6 Verses 35 through 45. He opens his Bible looks at it and says in the debate. He says well, I've never really done any work on this passage and you might sit here and go.

Well, wait a minute.

You've got a PhD you're teaching us. How can that be?

You just need to realize that's how it works and You can't assume that in these classes that you're taking that. This issue has been thoroughly discussed and and and hashed through. It may not have been in fact in many schools.

It's it's really frowned upon to raise such issues. And so it's easy to maintain that that kind of tradition. So I really think that's where it comes from. I appreciate it. All righty, man. You have you keep serving the Lord out there in Kansas and I like I said some everyone's a while though get out of Kansas and see a mountain.

Actually, I'm from New Hampshire, so I know there you go.

All right, God bless thanks for calling. Thank you. All right. Okay. I think we got Harry back From Pennsylvania. Harry you there? Yes, I am. Hey, we you just sort of went poof and we know I heard a click and I Was gone.

Oh, man. Well, I was I was right in the middle of asking if you had seen.

RC Sproul's book the holiness of God. Well, you know, I'm actually I actually have you on real player running right now and I heard that and I was kind of amazed because this Tuesday and I've only been at this thing about two months nine weeks and this Tuesday night We're starting a men's study going through art of God.

Well, there you go. See what I'm trying to do. I figured I'll start there and then from there move into either sovereignty or chosen excellent or reform theology.

I don't know yet. I just need a lot of prayer though. That's oh, yeah. Well, yeah and a lot of patience and start with the foundations because if you if you can if you've got people who Believe the Word of God they're under the authority of the Word of God start with the foundations build upon that and You know, I was mentioning my friend John Sampson.

He hasn't even had to use the buzzwords. You just start let the Word of God speak. Let the exegesis speak for itself and then as people start asking questions. Then you can start bringing in the terminology to help answer it.

But that's I think that's the best way to go that it's not guaranteed that it's not going to bring some level of resistance but the point is that's I think the best best direction to go and once someone grabs hold of what RC is talking about in the holiness of God and And really starts to see their own thin God's complete otherness.

That to me is the most shattering thing. That's what shatters the traditions. That's what shatters the the false conceptions We have of God and opens up the eyes to the the beauty of God's grace and his power and his holiness and things like that.

So I think that's really the the direction to go. Well, thank you, brother.

I it's it's it's really had an incredible effect on me. In fact, there's at least a couple guys now that I've been I've been giving them a lot of the mp3s and listening to a lot of sprawl and some of your debates and and.

Yeah, I just think it's so clear. I can't believe I've been saved 18 years and I've never seen it. Like I see it now. Yes, it's like an awakening. I understand. Listen, this is my question. I remember hearing you a debate once in a Romans 8 7 passage where The flesh is hospital to God.

They can't they cannot submit to the law of God and they cannot please God. And as I'm reading through acts and I see Cornelius that you've probably heard the question before. But your prayers and alms have ascended as a memorial before God.

Speaking he says in every nation and it does what is right is acceptable to go back to no man fears God. And then when he went up to Jerusalem and and and he was given the explanation and then in verse 14 of chapter 11 He says a message by which you will be saved.

So evidently it appears like Cornelius was in an unsafe state yet his prayers Ascended as seemingly something pleasing to God, right? And so my question is how does that all fit?

Cornelius, Common Grace, and the Non-Normative Nature of Acts

Well, I think it's similar to what we have in a number of places in this section of Acts starting about Acts 8 Through Acts 12 you have the gospel going out into non-jewish areas first. You have it going down the Samaria and what you have in this situation Samaria is you have an unusual situation?

And that is the disciples have to come down. And even though these people believe the Holy Spirit hasn't come upon them and that's we know from 1st Corinthians. That's not normative. Acts relates to us a number of non-normative situations here.

We have Cornelius. Here's an individual very clearly God is already active in this person's life. It's amazing to me. See some people actually use this. Pelagians will use it to say see. You don't need to have any grace.

Cornelius was a good guy without God's grace. Well, I Can't believe that someone could actually read what Peter says and come to conclusion. That means that he was good without God's grace, but the point is there was a preparatory work going on in Cornelius's heart.

However. Despite that still God has to go through and a miraculous event. To send Peter to him and as you pointed out in chapter 11 verse 14 He had to speak to him the gospel by which he would be saved that Cornelius was not in a saved state.

But obviously God was already working within this man's life. And so some people take this and this is the the noble Pagan the Christian pagan is actually how the inclusiveness we use this phrase Cornelius is the Christian pagan.

Well, no, he wasn't but obviously God did intend to bring him into relationship with himself and went through miraculous Measures to do so by sending Peter. I think it's very similar to what happens happen.

I'm not sure if you heard the program we had last week with Peter in the United Kingdom. Here's a man who grows up on the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan. No missionaries outside of a missionary who came through at one point and left a New Testament here the New Testament functions the same way Peter did for Cornelius and he reads the New Testament and he Embraces Jesus Christ as Lord without anyone preaching to him and in the case of Peter that was on the program.

Just through the ministration of the of the Word of God. It was just absolutely fantastic to hear his testimony. I'm not sure if you if you didn't get a chance to hear you might want to listen to the archives and catch that.

I would like yeah I would. And what. And I guess another thing that was kind of giving me comfort in it all was was verse 18 of 11 Where it says God has granted repentance, you know to the Gentiles, right?

It really does seem like the Lord is initiating I mean sending the angels supernaturally.

Right. I think I think the problem is if we try to make Cornelius Normative it causes all sorts of problems and that's what what happens when we're in Acts. There are a number of things here deacons generally are not teleported to do evangelism today.

Okay, you know, I mean With Philip, you know and and the same thing a pot. You've got Apostles active here and you've got you've got two things going on here. You've not only got Cornelius But you've also you guys forget you can't forget part of this is for Peter, right?

Peter is still very much in Entrenched in his tradition and God has to basically in a supernatural way hit him upside the head three times With a vision to get him to understand what it means. Do not call what I have called Clean unclean and so he's working Cornelius his life.

When Peter comes in he sees this and that's what confirms in his thinking What God has revealed to him God has brought me to this place God is working in these people's lives. God is bringing the gospel to the Gentiles.

It's not just for the Jews anymore. So I really think that's what's going on in the text. Well, thank you, brother. Hey, just just quickly. Are you on you're on Thursday nights and any other we're on Tuesday mornings at 11 a .m Mountain Standard Time and I think over the weekend this is going to change as to what time that is for you.

Because here in Arizona, we don't play with our clocks. We we respect that God is the maker of time. You just set your clock and let it run the rest of you folks play with your clocks as if you have power over time.

You know, we don't do that. So next week. It'll be an hour different.

If you're where are you located? So turn the clocks ahead. I'm assuming it'll be 12 o 'clock next week for me.

Actually the other direction because we become the same time as, California Next week, I believe so. I think it'd be a three-hour difference. So right now it's two-hour difference because it's 534 here.

So however, you figure it out. We know we're all on the same time 11 a .m On Tuesday mornings Mountain Standard Time and 5 p .m. Thursday evenings Mountain Standard. Thank you very much. Alrighty. God bless you, brother.

You too. All righty. Hey, we went a little bit over on that one. So we're gonna need to take our break, but we have another caller online and lines open for you at 8 7 7 7 5 3 33 41.

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Calvinism, Tradition, and Election in Christ

What is dr. Norman Geisler warning the Christian community about in his book chosen, but free a new cult. Secularism. False prophecy scenarios. No, dr. Geisler is sounding the alarm about a system of beliefs commonly called Calvinism.

He insists that this belief system is theologically inconsistent. Philosophically insufficient and morally repugnant. In his book the potter's freedom. James White replies to dr. Geisler, but the potter's freedom is much more than just a reply.

It is a defense of the very principles upon which the Protestant Reformation was founded. Indeed it is a defense of the very gospel itself in a style that both scholars and laymen alike can appreciate.

James White masterfully counters the evidence against so-called Extreme Calvinism. Defines what the reformed faith actually is and concludes that the gospel preached by the reformers is the very one taught in the pages of Scripture.

The potter's freedom a defense of the Reformation and a rebuttal to Norman Geisler's chosen. But free you'll find it in the reformed theology section of our bookstore at a omen org. Millions of petitioners from around the world are employing Pope John Paul II to recognize the Virgin Mary as co-redeemer with Christ.

Elevating the topic of Roman Catholic views of Mary to national headlines and widespread discussion. In his book Mary another Redeemer James White sidesteps hostile rhetoric and sites directly from Roman Catholic sources to explore this volatile topic.

He traces how Mary of the Bible esteemed mother of the Lord obedient servant and chosen vessel of God Has become the immaculately conceived bodily assumed Queen of Heaven. Viewed as co-mediator with Christ and now recognized as co-redeemer by many in the Roman Catholic Church.