August 2, 2019 Show with Audrey Werner on “The Quest for Biblical Sexuality in Uganda: How One Mom Is Influencing a Nation on Sex Education”

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Wishing you all a happy Friday on the second day of August 2019.

I'm thrilled to have back on the program a very fascinating woman.

Her name is Audrey Werner.

She is the Dean of life issues and professor at Masters International University

of Divinity.

She's the president and founder of the Matthew 18 group a Purity

paradigm for our homes churches and nation.

She is a former sex educator and STD that is sexually transmitted disease

clinic nurse.

She is a purity speaker for life talk crisis pregnancy center National speaker for

RSVP America sex education expert for the American Academy of

Biblical counselors and author of the book that we Discussed with her last time she was on the air.

Ten tips on how not to talk to your children about sex.

Today we are going to be addressing the quest for biblical sexuality in Uganda and how one

mom is influencing a nation.

On sex education.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio.

Audrey Werner.

Thank you, Chris.

It's always an honor and a pleasure to be on your program.

So thank you for having me back.

Well, it's my pleasure and I'm sure it is the pleasure of our listeners.

Please before we go into our main theme today.

Let our listeners know especially those that missed you.

The last time you were on or the last times plural that you were on.

Tell our listeners about Not only the Masters International University of Divinity, but also

about the Matthew 18 group.

Sure.

Let me share where this all began which was about 25 years ago.

As you mentioned in the intro, I was a former sex educator.

I was trained in the standardized training that everyone in the country has to go through To

teach children about sex and we were told that parents aren't doing their job, so we need to go into

the schools and do it for them and that we would actually decrease the pregnancy and the STD rate

and They told us that we would hear we might hear a lie out there that if we went in and talk to kids about sex.

That they would go out and do it and that's just simply not true.

So I was diligent my husband and I were newly married.

We had no children at the time and so I was diligent as I thought I can help parents so I

went in and to the schools and Talked about sex education and taught the children about

specs.

Now.

We were never encouraged to talk to the children about abstinence.

We were just to talk to them about condoms and birth control.

So after five years we were blessed with our very first child and I still wanted to work for the Health

Department where I had been working as a Sex educator, but the I did want to work

part -time and be home with my baby a little bit more.

But the only part -time job available was working in the STD or sexually transmitted disease

HIV clinic and I thought Okay.

Not that's a little out of my comfort zone.

But I will go ahead and do that and it's as if over that eight -year period of time that the words that I want you To see the fruit

of your labor and I saw things getting progressively worse.

So I was challenged myself to go.

Wait a minute.

I was told that sex education would improve the situation but it seemed like children were becoming sexually active

at earlier and earlier ages and Sex abuse was exploding date rape was exploding

and I wanted to know who was behind this who was behind sex education and at the time

my husband was a family life youth director for the Lutheran Church and the

Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate and somebody challenged me to look at the Lutheran sex education program.

Which came out in the 1960s.

It was the first Christian sex education program and I What I did in my

research was uncovered the fact that not only was the Lutheran sex ed.

But all sex education was developed with the help of Mary Calderon who

was the director.

The past medical director of Planned Parenthood.

We had Hugh Hefner who was giving the initial seed money for sex education and a man by the name of

Alfred Kinsey.

Who was considered the father of the sexual revolution?

So I thought to myself.

Oh, wow.

This is huge.

Not only do I need to wake up because this Lutheran sex ed was being taught at the school.

Where now my firstborn was entering kindergarten.

And I had gone to the same school and gone through the sex ed in the 1970s.

So I realized I needed to wake up that school.

I needed to wake up those parents.

But I also realized I needed to wake up the Lutheran leaders and then as I kind of thought about it I have to wake up

the entire body of Christ across the world.

To the fact of where sex education came from and what it's doing to our children.

And of course, I had an argument with I thought how can one person just

do that?

But God every time I have questioned how can I do this?

The Lord has put someone in my

path in my path who

is in the areas wearing.

So I have continued to be wowed by the Lord and I realized that we have to wake up

parents.

I realized that we have to start talking to youth about purity not about sex not about abstinence.

But we need to really reaffirm their identity in Jesus Christ and talk about how do you live

a pure life in today's culture?

I also realized that we needed to wake up the shepherds because if you can get to a shepherd He of course

can affect the whole flock.

So the Lord opened the door for me to teach at Masters International University of Divinity.

Where I teach a course called restoring biblical purity in the church, and I have had

the opportunity Over the last six years to teach that to pastors all over the

world as well as crisis pregnancy center staff and Also biblical

counselor students, so I have as I said, I've continued to be wowed and amazed

through this whole process.

And then the Lord led me to Uganda.

So.

What's going on.

Well, I'm looking forward to discussing Uganda with you and.

Anyone who wants to look up more information about the Matthew 18 group?

You can go to Audrey's website, which is Matthew 18 and Matthew is spelled or should I say

Matthew 18?

The 18 part is spelled with the Roman numerals XVIII.

And I think you may have an alternative website that actually has the the normal

1 -8.

Domain.

Yeah, Matthew18 .org and you can go either way Roman numeral or regular.

Yeah, I know that there are a lot of people who are Roman numerically challenged.

So they might prefer to go to Matthew18 .org.

Right, yeah.

And I'm gonna give our listeners our email address right now in case they have any questions about sex

education about What's going on in Uganda?

More about Audrey's ministry.

Etc.

And our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com chris ar n z n at

gmail .com.

And Please as always give us your first name at least Your city and state of residence

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And by the way that website I gave you Matthew18 .org.

You can also purchase copies of Audrey's book there ten tips on how not to talk to your children about

sex.

Before I go into the Uganda Situation.

Your visit to Uganda and This one mom who is influencing a nation on sex

education.

The thing that's remarkable about.

The number of churches that have been deceived by the modern

sex education movement very heavily influenced by

Kinsey who was vile and disgusting and satanic Pervert.

Can you give us an update on the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod, which it's

remarkable that anyone in that denomination.

Especially in leadership would be deceived by such things knowing of the

conservative nature of that denomination the Love for and dedication

to the inerrancy of the scriptures.

Being very careful in the ties that they have ecumenically

outside of the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod you don't have rampant modern

ecumenism going on with that denomination where they are linking arms with liberals or even Roman Catholics

and those outside of what we would call reformational theology or

historic evangelical theology, so tell us.

Have you got any updates hopefully for the positive in regard to the Lutheran Church?

To be honest with you Chris, I Spent several years reaching out to them.

The Lord opened the door as I had shared with you in the late 1990s the

president of the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod at the time.

Dr. A .L. Berry had written me back and appreciated the information and

He had said that this is alarming to me as well, so he opened up a

Dialogue between me and the Lutheran Publishing Company, which is Concordia Publishing

House.

So what in essence happened was there was a debate going back and forth with President Berry being the

moderator.

For that and I have all of the correspondence going back and forth.

But there was a clear resistance on their part to admit That Kenzie's science had

been used to Develop the Lutheran sex ed program even though the

original bibliography from the 1960s books Directly

quote Kenzie as well as Hugh Hefner is one of the books that's recommended to the teenagers to read

a book written by Hugh Hefner.

Yes, and several of the members of the organization that was kind of

the Official organization to start sex education, which was called CECIS, which

is an abbreviation for sex Information Education Council of the United States.

It was launched at the Kenzie Institute and as I said Dr. Mary Calderon of Planned Parenthood

was the first director.

Everyone who had ties to CECIS when it started had connections to and

firm beliefs in humanism Communism and eugenics so as we

look historically any society if we're going to tear down a society you really push sexual

morality and Sex education is the pillar to the sexual revolution.

In order to keep this movement going now We're to transgender and we're now going to

teach pedophilia to children as just another sexual orientation in California.

That is called sexual attitude restructuring, which is at the foundation for sex education.

You have to indoctrinate children early into these beliefs into these

sexual Deviations and and of course away from God's Word in doing that.

So I Have continued to try and correspond with CPH,

but Dr. Berry died suddenly.

So I lost that communication then Linda Bartlett who was the president of Lutheran's for life Took up the

gauntlet and she actually arranged a personal meeting so I actually met someone from

CPH in person at the Lutheran's for life headquarters and At by that point as I said, the

Lord had already given me national leaders To help to put together a lot of information for

them with a lot of facts on It's being you know, their sex ed being harmful to children

and being developed by Kenzie science and there was Again,

if if I think there's kind of if we ignore her she'll go away.

And so I thought okay Lord if I can't wake up Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate Then I guess I have to wake up

the world and so the Lord has opened some doors actually this last

winter in January I Actually presented at our

Texas Capitol in Austin I did a legislative briefing briefing

all of our legislators on where sex education came from who developed it and what was the

intent and then I came back in April and we actually There were a couple of moms

just moms I call them jams, which is just a mom because that's how I started this whole thing myself and

Four moms came together and we testified on a bill that Two of the moms had put

together To actually get sex education out of the school

and so.

So.

Again, the words open some other parts, but I would love to say that the Lutheran Church has reached out to me.

I have reached out to every president since dr. Barry with absolutely no response.

Do you think this is more an Area of not wanting to

admit that we've already done something wrong because the Missouri Senate Lutheran Synod

The Missouri the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod doesn't seem to be caving in

in many ways to the modern sexual Ideas the heresies the blasphemies,

etc.

That are being championed in the liberal mainline denominations and being championed

just in The world in the political arena and the social arena and so

on.

They don't they don't even allow women into the ordination

as ministers there.

And of course, they don't permit homosexual Ministers as well.

Those who are you know having Abomination Who are

committing the abomination of?

Same -sex relations and so on.

They still teach that that is a damnable action.

So, what do you think the motive is there?

Your death is as good as mine.

I I don't fully understand that because you're right I'm the Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate has stood

firm on Many of the moral issues and not caves like a lot of the other denominations.

I I don't know I can't you know I have shared with you before that the learning

about sex series has been around since the late 1960s if it has indeed

been harmful to children imagine the recall on that I don't know what melody maybe of

them knowing that this has been harmful to children, but continuing to ignore My

suggestion because when I did meet in person with the CPH representative ironically

on October 31st of 2001 I Met with them and gave them

all the information with suggestions because you don't just present a problem.

You have to come with some solution and I said that we don't have very many

curricula that are on Purity chastity purity modesty self -control.

We we need to get back to teaching parents how to do that and So I said the Lutheran Church could

lead in this we could actually be in the forefront of doing this.

And you know, of course, we would need to you would need to recall this series and you need to say why it's

being recalled.

Because it's not just the Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate all other Christian sex -ed programs that have been

developed since that one Patterned off of that one.

So you you know, I like to say you you you find Kenzie in every denomination.

His his science is in all of our Christian resources that have to do with sex education and

marital intimacy a lot of times I go to church libraries and I can find Kenzie in The

bibliography of the books that are there.

So It's a matter of we've got to humble ourselves.

We've got to turn from our wicked ways.

We have to purge Kenzie out of the church and until we do that things aren't going to get better in this

country and You know, I would love to say that they've reached out to me the matter of fact

Concordia Publishing House.

Some of them had a Nickname for me.

I'm called the toxic woman.

So.

Teal teal XIC.

Yes. Yes.

Wow.

Woman because I brought forth an error in the church and I'm a woman who brought forth an error in the church.

Look how well that goes over.

Well, I have a number of.

Very very conservative Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod pastor friends who I've interviewed on this program and

I'd like to.

Sometime after this show is over try to get them riled up enough to help you accomplish

something for the cause of Christ in this area because this is ridiculous and.

There are some Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod pastors that are aware of my work and aware of what I'm doing.

It's matter of fact when I was over in Uganda I met a missionary that's teaching at the Lutheran Seminary

there that recently been started up and he was a pastor over here in the States and recently went over there

and He was so wonderful because I told the whole thing to him and he said my

heart just breaks.

You know, we have an error here that we have got to correct.

We've got to be held accountable for what has happened and you know the Lutheran Church has

contributed to the sexual revolution just as much as Kinsey has and We've got to get rid

of that concept of sex education and that's why going over to Uganda and being able to speak to

all of the major leaders there and Talk about how we have to get this message back to the parents

who can train their children and have the best.

Effect on their children.

Well, I I strongly urge our listeners if they don't really have a grasp on

How wicked and satanic Kinsey was that's

Alfred Kinsey, right?

Go to the iron sharpens iron radio website iron sharpens iron radio .com and

Go into the archives and type in Audrey Werner and you will get

previous interviews that we've had with Audrey and at least one That specifically

deals with Alfred Kinsey and you'll I would I would strongly urge you to listen to this on an

empty stomach.

But this stuff is horrific and nightmarish Lee

evil and It's just so bizarre that anyone professing the name of Christ could be in any

way Swayed to include anything from this

grotesque human beings Laboratory experiments

that included the sexual molestation of children and infants,

yeah, I mean mind -boggling mind -boggling but um.

Well you recently came back from Uganda and

I was excited to receive that email from you.

I have heard about a lot of things going on in Uganda that

the folk many Christians there are trying to have a positive influence.

They're not only first and foremost with the gospel of Jesus Christ To bring salvation to the lost but also

in the realm of sexuality they've also the The

the politicians and those in governing authority in Uganda many have been

Scrutinized and When the subject of ridicule and

Harsh Criticism and I'm not sure how much of it is slander.

I'm sure a lot of it is but there seems to be an exaggeration of

What Uganda What the Ugandan government has as its policies and stance

against homosexuality.

There is there is a picture being portrayed by liberals that Uganda is becoming a

fourth Reich when it comes to homosexuals being the victims rather than the Jews

you know, you have all kinds of Inflammatory things being said and by the way, just a side note very quickly.

Many of our listeners might not even realize when they when you hear the the term Nazi being thrown around by

liberals and leftists all the time there were many homosexuals open homosexuals in

the original Nazi Party Including Ernst Rome

Who was the leader of the brown shirts?

He was an open Homosexual pederast.

He was not in the closet in any way.

So the idea that Nazism is somehow in its root against homosexuality is a falsehood.

But anyway, that's just a side note.

So tell us about how you got this invitation to Uganda and what you discovered there.

About two years ago.

I was at Dallas Theological Seminary I live in in Texas in the Dallas area and a friend had

asked me to go to an event Through Dallas Theological Seminary.

They have a program called reach where they invite 25 to 30 pastors

from all over the world to come and go through some training and then they go back to their countries and Then

use this training with other pastors.

So I went to the event at the seminary and across the room

was a lovely man from Africa and he was smiling at me and I was smiling at him

and I ended up going up and talking with him and he came over to me and his name

was Pastor Ronald Mutu and he was from the community where the AIDS epidemic began and

I shared with him what I do and what my ministry is and he said I would love for you to come to

my community and speak to my people and I thought wow, isn't it like God to send

a purity message to the community where the AIDS epidemic began?

So he has started a school for Children over there as you

know Education you have to pay for it over there and because of the poverty not many children can go.

And because in his school there are children who have AIDS there are children who have been orphaned because

of AIDS.

So he has grown this to now 400 children and as so

I thought well Lord if you want me to go over there You're gonna have to open away because I don't have the money and the means and it just so

happened that the Lutheran Church I attend one of the members of the congregation.

He also goes over to Uganda three times a year to help.

He's very instrumental and helping with the Lutheran the only Lutheran high school there.

So his name is Steven and so I said Steven you go over there all the time and I've never been over there.

So he said I would love for you to come with me Audrey, and I'll be your bodyguard.

The Lord opened the door another Lutheran Church out of the blue.

I've never even spoken at this church.

They had been bequeathed a large sum of money and they wanted to tithe it.

So they picked three ministries to tithe to and I was one of them so that pretty much paid for my trip.

I'm like, okay, Lord.

I guess I'm going to Uganda and What happened was I I served on a

national kind of an international coalition called protect child health Coalition

and so one of the members she works at the UN her name is Sharon Slater.

And she has a wonderful organization fighting for families fighting for the unborn.

Fighting sex ed fighting Planned Parenthood and her organization is called family watch international.

So she said oh you're going to Uganda.

I have a few people there you need to meet so she connected me with a couple of people there and

So I had let them know I was coming but when I got on the plane all I knew was I was going to the community

where the AIDS epidemic had begun and I was going to be speaking to about 60 pastors and

Very quickly it turned into a speaking tour across the country where I was able to

reach 450 major religious and government leaders in Uganda

praise God.

So so in regard to what I just said the the picture I painted or should I say the

the description of the picture that leftists in the United States and in other parts of the world in

Europe and so on are painting of of Uganda making it out to be this

monstrous hateful government trying to

Persecute homosexuals as much as they can in very harsh and evil ways.

Okay.

How do you respond to that?

Uganda surprised me of course, it's a third world country.

They're very poor.

But the people there are wonderful and Christianity is the foundation of that

country.

I was able to speak at the largest university and I spoke to students as well as professors and to be

honest That was probably the talk I was most nervous about because I know if I would go to the

largest University of the United States and talk about Christ I would be heckled and thrown out of there and

One professor actually when I was doing the Q &A with people after my talk one professor

said but Professor Warner what you needed to do with that last question.

If you needed to tell that parent that she needed to pray first and ask for the wisdom of the Holy Spirit.

And I just kind of stood back.

I go, I'm sorry, can you say that here?

And she's like, of course you can say that here.

And I was like, oh my gosh.

I said, you know, I told her what happens in America when Christians try and speak up.

So, um, Pornography is not legal there.

Sodomy, yes.

Homosexuality is not legal there.

Sex education is not in the schools yet.

But look at the timing of me going over there because sex education.

They there were people in the Parliament that resisted it.

There were ministers and assistants to the president that had resisted this however.

Because of the pressure from the US from the UN from the Bill Gates from all of these UNICEF

all these organizations that are coming in with lots of money to help this poor country.

Somehow it was snuck in so legally sex ed can be put in the schools now.

But they hadn't put it in the schools yet.

And here I come in to share the message of where sex education came from who developed

it.

What was the intent and more importantly what has it done for America since the 1960s?

Where are we at today?

Okay.

Well, we'll be finding more about your trip to Uganda and I

especially want to hear about This this

national.

Attention to the subject that you've discovered there, but if you could

Send in your emails to Chris Ornson at gmail .com.

If you have a question for Audrey Warner.

C H R I S A R N Z E N at gmail .com.

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If your question involves a personal and private matter and what I'll do Audrey is I'll read a question for

you that we've got and you can answer it when we come back From the break.

This is a question from Mary and Cork, Ireland.

And I just had it in front of me and I'm looking for it right now.

Mary in Cork, Ireland, she writes.

Do they perform Circumcision on girls in Uganda.

This is also called vaginal circumcision and obviously in the minds

of most people this is sexual mutilation of Of young girls.

Is this legal.

Is this prominent in Uganda or is that likely in other parts of Africa and

You could answer that when we come back from our break.

Chris Ornson at gmail .com.

Chris Ornson at gmail .com.

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This is Chris Arnzen.

If you just tuned us in our guest today is Audrey Werner author of ten tips on how not

to talk to your children about sex.

And today we are discussing the theme the quest for biblical sexuality in Uganda How one

mom is influencing a nation on sex education and our email address is Chris Arnzen

at gmail .com.

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Please give us your first name city and state and country of residence if you live outside the USA.

Please only remain anonymous if your question involves a more personal and private matter before the break.

Oh Audrey as you probably remember Mary from Cork, Ireland asked if there is

vaginal circumcision or female circumcision.

Which most people would just call the sexual mutilation of young girls.

Is that still going on in you or is it I should say going on in Uganda or is that mainly in other parts of

Africa?

Well again.

In.

In the African countries, this is something that has gone on as a tradition

in in some of the tribes, so.

In Uganda, however, it was outlawed in 2010.

So it's not legal to do that practice, but there are still people

who believe in that in there in that country, but You know if they're

caught they they can serve prison time for that and is this this is

outside of.

The boundaries of Islam, isn't it?

Don't even those sometimes these tribal Groups who profess to be Christian and involve themselves

in this.

Yeah, and again, I'm not an expert on that.

So I can't really speak to who's behind it or you know.

What's the the origins of it?

All I know is that in Uganda, which is.

Again I was just astounded with how much Christianity is in the universities in

as well as in the Parliament building.

Many many Christians that you know, even the president of Uganda is Christian, so.

You know that is is throughout that country and and certainly it's felt.

Now going back to the question I had before the break.

So I'm assuming you think that much if not most if not all

of the claims of real harsh cruel persecution

of those involved in homosexuality is.

A.

Slanderous description of the Ugandan government.

You said it's illegal, but that doesn't necessarily equate persecution or harshness

right.

This this country had homosexual activity outlawed and until very

recent history.

Exactly, so and and keep in mind folks that just because you as a

nation or as a government Outlaw something doesn't mean that you hate the people involved in the

activity.

You met you're very often trying to Prevent them or protect them

from being involved in Dangerous and deadly activity that is not only dangerous and deadly for

themselves, but also for the community surrounding.

Right, absolutely, and you know just speaking from the field of science the act of sodomy is

is Damaging to the body whether you are homosexual or heterosexual.

That is an act that God never intended People to do and that's why it was called an abomination in

Scripture and I always say, you know God loves the sinner not the sin but

unfortunately because of the Bible and what it says.

You know here in this country.

We are now talking about the Equality Act, which will make it illegal for churches to even

speak to scripture regarding sodomy.

There's a lot of hatred that goes toward anyone who is putting up the biblical standard and

that would be also inclusive for Uganda.

They are under a tremendous amount of pressure when I spoke in Parliament building

to members of Parliament to various ministers of one the Minister of

Ethics and Integrity the Minister of Primary Education the Chaplain for

the Parliament.

After I gave my presentation they each gate got up and shared the response to

what I had shared and One of them said that the our former

Secretary of State from the United States has called Him personally and had

said listen United States.

We have five million dollars.

We would love to give your country.

However, you have got to accept you have to change your stance regarding homosexuality

and this gentleman said without even skipping a beat he didn't hesitate he said

To our former Secretary of State you can keep your money because we would rather be

poor and honor God than to defy our Heavenly Father.

So tell us about any interaction that you may have had with

parents in Uganda.

Parents who are trying to raise their children properly that perhaps they've already been doing

something that is biblically incorrect and they want to Change that or what.

What kind of interaction have had you had with the parents that you perhaps met?

Yes, and as I said, I primarily dealt with The church leaders

the very first day I was there Bishop Charles Bameka, who's the head of the Lutheran Church of

Uganda had me present to all of the Lutheran pastors in Uganda

and they in turn from that information said We have got to have you train trainers

to to go to the parents to help train them on how to do this.

The.

From what I understand in Uganda It's usually not the parents who give the sex

talk because they're uncomfortable which is true here our parents are uncomfortable Talking graphically to

their kids about sex.

But again, if we go back historically.

What did we do prior to Alfred Kinsey and the sexual revolution?

We used to talk to our children in a very modest indirect way.

We talked to them about God's life process.

Through the flowers the birds and bees.

We didn't shift to describing make sure they know the genitals the names for the genitals and the act

in detail.

Until after Kinsey and Hugh Hefner and Planned Parenthood.

Who came up with that idea?

So, you know, we're actually sexualizing children when we give that approach, but that's the norm

today.

That's what we expected.

So for parents in Uganda, they would usually though I believe it would be paternal auntie.

Would be the one who would talk to the children, but many of them don't talk at all.

So It was revolutionary for them to hear, you know, why they were

uncomfortable giving that talk and they were Encouraged by the

fact of I can talk to my children.

I'm much more comfortable talking to them in a modest indirect way so they were

appreciating the Permission to go in that direction with this.

I think the other thing that I also noticed with the parents in Uganda is as you know, because not

every child has a Cell phone or you know an iPad or whatever

like our children do and of course through the social media.

Our children are being bombarded with pornography and and horrible messages and over

there.

It's just coming.

They're just now getting their computers and you know.

Some of these rural areas and they're they have horror stories of their children are watching

pornography and they have no idea.

And how they're having to deal with that.

In talking to their children about not looking at those images and you know I had one parent

that prayed about it and and said that she said this is Satan's tool.

This is how he wants to lead you to hell and I thought wow.

She you know, she she had prayed about wisdom on how does she talk to her child about it?

And you know re -emphasized his identity in Jesus Christ and You know talked about the

consequences the biblical consequences of when we go down that path of following You know Proverbs

6 and 7 that seductive woman which is pornography which leads us to that.

So so I like I said, I didn't talk as much to parents as I did to leaders.

I.

Spoke at the Catholic Secretariat at the Capital of Uganda

father Jonathan opio who's a Catholic leader there?

He arranged for that meeting and I met with all the youth leaders for the Catholic churches over there.

And again, they were enthused to find out why you know because this country is getting a lot of

pressure to put the sex ed in and.

They've been uncomfortable with that but they needed the fact to help them, you know to turn away from it.

So.

So like I said, it's it's it was amazing.

All the places but the Lord took me at just this time.

The timing was incredible.

We have.

Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania.

Who asks you've been advertising this program as how one mom is influencing a

nation on seduction?

Sex education, is that one mom your guest Audrey?

Well, yeah, and I would say actually it's the word I'm just one person that's

being used.

The Lord opened like I said incredible doors For me to be able to do this and

one of the connections that Sharon player from Family Watch International.

She connected me with Stephen Langa who is he's considered like the James Dobson of

Uganda.

He has an organization called Family Life Network and he met with me the night before he had arranged

for me to speak at the largest University and then at the largest church in Uganda to the pastors there and

He also arranged for me to speak in Parliament and he said Audrey when you go to Parliament

this this is historical.

What you're about to do is historical and will have major implications because

This is where we're at right now with text that we haven't put it in the schools yet but it's been approved

and you're that the timing of your message is so crucial and What he did was he

filmed my presentation to part the Parliament members and to the other government officials.

And also present there was father Opio the head of the Catholic

Church, and then you had Bishop Charles But Mika the head of the Lutheran Church.

You had another gentleman there who was the head of the Anglican Church.

And it was amazing to watch these government and church leaders after hearing the information

I presented come together and make a vow that they were going to fight sex education

being put into the schools in their country with the help of the Lord and I thought what an

honor That I got to be a part of watching history in Uganda.

And I just was a messenger that just brought the message in and then flew right out.

So.

So, you know I would say the God just had me at the right place at the right time and I've been dealing

with this You know started with the Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate and here I had the head of the Lutheran

Church of Uganda.

Personally taking me to every single event that I had to speak at he was with

me along with two other Lutheran leaders so.

Which was great.

Versus what I've dealt with here in the United States with the Lutheran Church to have the Lutheran leaders

there enthusiastically embrace my message and You know be supportive of me was

just so wonderful.

So what we have to go to our midway break right now.

In fact, what I'll do is I'll ask a question of a listener and you can respond to it when we return.

We have John and Bangor Maine who asked the question.

You say that the Ugandan nation is A Christian nation how much of that is

nominal or liberal or apostate?

Christianity is that mainly the group that is opposing the more

conservative and restrictive laws and policies in regarding to

homosexuality and sex education and other Progressive things in Uganda

and we'll have you answer that question when we come back.

Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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Chrisarnson at gmail .com and Audrey you may recall before the break we had a listener ask

if the Christian climate of Uganda.

Is much of it genuinely?

Christian, you know, is there a huge number of

Regenerate people there who are truly Christian or just like for instance We have situations like in

the Bible Belt where you have a lot of nominal Christianity.

You have a lot of people who are Christian in name, but aren't really born -again followers of Christ.

But also the the question that our listener asked was specifically asking is there a lot of liberal mainline

Nominal Christianity that is pressuring the government to add these sex education

curriculums that you've been protesting against or warning about Into the school

systems and all that kind of thing.

I think they have more outside pressure than they have inside pressure for the sex education.

Certainly when I say Christian nation, you could say America is a Christian

nation, but we're a Christian nation not because we have more churches or more Christians or a

Christian behavior, but rather our laws and our government were founded on the principles of the Old and New Testament.

And of course what has happened with the legalization of abortion and pornography sex education

sodomy.

All of those laws that used to be in place based on the Bible had been thrown out and New laws

the model penal code and the sex offense section has been brought in and that is based on Kinsey's

science.

So when I'm looking at Uganda, they still are adhering to the biblical

laws with that so you know, of course every nation has a

mixture of.

But certainly in the circles I I was in and even in the Parliament building

to have the religious leaders and the government leaders working together for

the good of Uganda Was certainly very impressive to me.

So I would say the the pressure that they're getting is from the outside and I

will share.

When I went into the community where the AIDS epidemic began and I taught my course.

We have a mini version of my course restoring biblical purity in the church what they were expecting.

60 pastors and they had a hundred and twenty show up and they also had time

to do question and answer with me and one of the pastors Stood up

and he said I have to share with you.

That I have been so angry with America because you have this thing and God we trust.

Yet you're pushing homosexuality on us.

You're pushing sex education on us and abortion and I I was so

angry with you Americans, but now.

Today I see there there's you and I know there's others in America who are fighting

against that.

And that gives me hope and he said I'm going to look at Americans Differently now because I've realized you're

not all like that.

So I thought wow.

You know.

We do.

Other countries are looking at us because of this pressure that we're putting on these countries to accept gay

marriage to accept sex education to accept abortion.

That's what America is known for across the world.

We're the world leading distributors of pornography.

We're the number one country that is purchasing sex whether it's through pornography

child sex trafficking we have become.

This is the outcome of the sexual revolution.

So.

You know when we're going to look at who's Christian and who's not we need to start in our own Backyard

and as I say Lord start a revival.

Let it begin with me and my circle and then I can affect My family and

those around me in my community and then my nation.

We have let's see here Arnie in Perry County, Pennsylvania and

Arnie says There are many people that will say if

we try to Restrict the behavior of the citizens of any country in

regard to their sexual activity.

We are going to be thwarting the spread of the gospel because these people will not hear

What Christians have to say about Christ in eternity if we are mixing politics and their

private sexual behavior?

With our message of Jesus Christ and him crucified.

Can you say any words that may correct the thinking in those people many of whom are well

-meaning Christians?

But I believe sadly mistaken in this area.

Um.

Yeah, I mean there's always been that that mindset and I think Christians stood back for a while and said, you know separation of

church and state.

So I'm not going to get involved politically.

But again when we look at the foundations of our nation every

state Constitution goes back to the Ten Commandments.

And really law points the way and our founders knew that they knew in order to have freedom.

We had to have restrictions whereas sexual freedom brings

chaos and Usually what comes from that is socialism and communism,

which is what we're seeing in America today.

So, you know, that's a loving God, but he gets us lost not to because he's not a fun

God.

He gets us lost because he loves us and he knows that if we go outside of that behavior It is going

to be harmful.

For us and for those around us.

So that's why those laws were put in place.

So, you know again understanding that if you want to even if you're

not a Christian you want to live in a Christian nation because that's where You will obtain your most freedom.

Because these laws are in place and they bring order and God is a God of order.

So, you know again, we love the sinner but not the sin and so

these laws are put in place to protect us and that is something that we have to look

at and Statistically wise as we have taken these laws out the crimes

against women and children in America have exploded.

The the institution of marriage has fallen apart and our families are

in Desolation.

So again We need to get back to God's law.

Dr. Judith Riesman, who's the one of the top experts in the world on Alfred Kinsey she was one

of the people who had actually trained me and She told of when she met with the

late Justice Scalia.

And she shared this information of how our lives have been changed using this fraudulent criminal science of

Alfred Kinsey, which isn't science at all and He said Instead of us coming up

with new laws to protect what we are losing.

If the old laws which were based on God's Word if the old laws were thrown out based on this

fraud.

That shouldn't we restore the old laws and make them honorable again, and I say amen

to that.

Amen.

When you were saying that you're not going to be involved politically.

Exactly.

What do you mean by that?

Because that that could mean a lot of things.

I mean There there is a big debate between even conservative Bible

-believing Christians as to whether or not or how much

involvement People should have as Christians in politics.

There are very few that I know outside the Amish or Mennonites or Some other groups that would say we should have

no involvement, but there are many people that have a stark contrast between

A church for instance rarely rallying around a candidate or a pastor

Being very actively involved in politics as opposed to a private citizen who is a Christian doing that.

So what do you what do you mean by that?

Yeah, and because of our 501 c3, you know a church can't endorse a candidate.

However, a church can show who's pro -life and who isn't they can show

how?

Candidates vote on the moral issues and then the parishioners can make the decision based on that.

What I meant when I said that I didn't intend to get involved politically.

Was that I didn't think I would have to go in and talk to legislators About

this.

I my passion has always been to wake up the church to wake up parents to wake up church leaders

because that's where.

You know, we're failing as a country because our churches are turning away from God.

You know the church's point the way also and as they embrace the lives of the sexual

revolution.

They are dragging, you know, their parishioners down.

So I had a passion to wake up the church.

That's where I started but I have The Lord has opened up opportunities now

for me to not only meet with state Legislators but now got to meet with government

officials from Uganda.

So and what I'm finding is that nobody knew That the why

these laws had changed and who was behind it when I went into the Texas State Capitol I blew

up from Kinsey's sexual behavior in the human male.

From that book.

He has a table in their table 34 and it's on page 180 I believe and

I took it to a printer and I said could you blow this up and the lady looked at it the table horrified and she Was going to

refuse me until I told her what I was using it for and on that table Kinsey has

documented how many orgasms do children have some of them in a 24 -hour

period of time.

Which is a horrific thing to even wrap your head around because that means an adult Was raping a child as young as

five months old.

Up through the age of 14 and Someone was documenting this so these are criminal

activities that occurred, but this is the foundation of sex education.

So I have that blown up.

I walked into the Texas State Capitol with that and I showed it to them and they had no

idea.

They had no idea who developed sex ed who was behind it and what the intent was and more importantly

you can look at The STD and pregnancy rate and see from just the cost effective not just the

destruction of marriage and families.

But what does it cost to the state to the country to have sexual morality the

cost of the?

Teenager who is pregnant.

Or has the venereal disease it has been extremely costly.

For that so for the children that are living in poverty because single -parent families

Exploded right after sex education was put in the pool.

So in terms of my own state representative is a pastor.

When I was in the state capitol it was awesome because he came off of the the floor of the house floor

and prayed over.

The four moms that were going to testify later that day.

He actually prayed over us, and I thought how awesome is this that you know yes, you can have that.

And I know in Uganda I believe it was in the 1990s

that they they were Calling for born -again Christians to get into

political positions to get into the Parliament get into the different offices.

Because we all have different worldviews.

And if we have you know if you have a lot of people in office that have a different view on death as we have in Spanish

side now that is Horrific so of course we need Christians in

office and need to be politically active and and involved.

We have Let's see CJ in Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York who says.

I have heard the cries of liberals and leftists who say that

Vigilante violence is on the rise in Uganda against those involved in homosexuality

Due to stricter laws that have come into play.

Is this Exaggeration or is it outright falsehood that there are groups professing to be Christians that are

roaming around beating up and torturing.

Homosexuals.

And you know there probably is there is here I mean there there are people that in the name of Christianity are

going in and shooting up or You know committing violent acts, but

again We have to you know you will know them by the fruit by their fruit and obviously with that

type of behavior.

That is not Christian.

You know that's a fallacy for us to to believe that.

So.

You know again.

I did not come across that.

I think again.

Anybody who's going to stand up and say this is more immoral and wrong?

According to scripture is going to be vilified.

That's in the playbook for the LGBTQ.

And.

Anyone who resists is going to be demonized and so here's an example

in Uganda.

They are getting a tremendous amount of pressure From a lot of people who have a lot of money and a lot of organizations that

have a lot of money.

To cave on this issue, and so they are being vilified by this and that I mean that's a typical.

Yes, and of course.

I mean, I I don't think there has been any proven epidemic of

people in the name of Christ committing violence against homosexuals there there are isolated

incidents of skinheads and you know people like that and even

even people that turn out to be homosexuals themselves and involved in this violence, but people

equate Anything that may Use in some way

the name of Jesus Christ of Christianity as a Christian movement, which is absurd.

I mean there are no Evangelical groups doing these things.

I mean you would hear about it globally on every news.

Yeah, every church leader I met over there, and I met a lot of them none of them

would advocate that at all.

And even and even with the hate crimes that we hear about in the news that

are Committed by those who are neo -nazis Klansmen skinheads,

this is a tiny minority of what is going on in the world.

I mean or even in our nation I mean it seems like the most hate crimes We see regularly in the news are

those committed by Antifa against innocent victims, but.

All right, we're gonna ask another question before we go to our final break, and then you could

answer it when we return.

We have RJ in White Plains, New York who asks what in your opinion?

Can we as a nation here in America learn from Uganda and.

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asked what you believe our nation American can learn from Uganda.

The thing that just struck me when I was on the Parliament building is that these government leaders

sexuality sodomy in that country?

It's not because they hate gays.

It's because they want out so

much in this nation.

What are we willing to stand up for and say no.

Not on my watch.

Not anymore.

When I was in the Capitol building in Austin, Texas I met a mother who had a book that's

in the school for children young children called It's perfectly normal.

She didn't care whose office she went into whether it was a Republican a Democrat.

She went office to office just showing them putting this book in their faces and saying look at what the

children are looking at.

We have got to start to take a stand because we've got to get back to honoring God in this country.

And I'm going to close it with John Adams the second president of the United States said.

No matter how heedless insensate materialistic selfish greedy of society may

be if there can be found in it a few clear and powerful voices that Speak out

unafraid against it the corruption the spirit and the hope of reform can

persist.

Amen.

And the leftist agenda in our nation is gaining

such strides and such strength and such authority.

Tragically, I think largely because Their rhetoric which is

accepted as truth wrongly accepted as truth is that they are not promoting religion.

They will say we have to be a nation of a nation that separates church and

state which of course they Misunderstand the concept of that.

To begin with we have to be a nation that does not establish a religion.

And yet they are.

Really even if they never call it a religion They are establishing the religion of secular

humanism and leftist totalitarianism.

It's just because they don't call it a religion that they get away with this in the minds of many even many who

disagree with them.

Think that they are correct that we have to remove Christianity from the public square and

from the political arena, which is absurd but they are really establishing their own

religion the religion of Secular humanism leftist totalitarianism and Satan

himself if I may be bold so bold to say.

That's right.

I can stand against it.

It takes just a few.

God just needs a few.

He just needs a few.

That's the whole point.

Amen and right now you are in the midst of a speaking tour so I wanted to give you an opportunity

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more about those speaking engagements.

Yes, I'm currently in Michigan.

I just spoke at First Baptist Church in Greensburg, Indiana.

I am speaking at a very small church in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, but on

August 12th and 13th, I will be touring the state of Missouri.

So anybody in Missouri.

If you contact Bev Beverly Eden, it's Ehlen of

Concerned Women for America, Missouri.

She will have the schedule of where I'll be and I would love to see you there.

Do you have any of this information on the Matthew 18 group website?

No, I don't have it there but you can get it through like I said through Concerned Women for America of

Missouri.

That'll be the primary one.

So, okay.

Well, you'll have to do some googling I guess to get the exact website, correct?

Okay.

Well, I want to thank you so much Audrey for being such a an informative guest.

Once again, I look forward to you returning to this program.

I want to thank everybody who listened today, especially those who took the time to write in questions.

I hope you all have a safe and blessed and happy weekend and a refreshing weekend

and especially an honoring a God honoring Lord's Day.

And I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than you

are a sinner.