May 2, 2022 Show with David Bissett on “Communion with God”

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May 2nd. We are thrilled to have A very First time guest a man that I have known for Known of I should say I have known I have been aware of his existence for many years and Have known of his church's existence for even a longer period of time.

His name is David Bissett and he is senior pastor of Clifton Park Community Church of Clifton Park, New York and I'm so delighted to have him on for the very first time on the show and we're going to be addressing a very important theme communion with God.

Which is also the theme of the upcoming banner of truth East Coast ministers conference in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania where my guest David Bissett will be one of the featured speakers. But it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to iron sharpens iron radio David Bissett.

To be a part of your radio as am I brother and.

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Clifton Park community church org and we have a Tradition on this program. Oh before I even get to that tradition I just want to make sure before I forget that one of my pastors at Grace Baptist Church of Carlisle, Pennsylvania John Miller told me to extend to you his greetings and he was thrilled to know that you were my guest today.

Yes, great, well we have a tradition. I was just as I was just about to say.

Here on the program whenever we have a first-time guest We have that guest give a summary of their salvation testimony that would include The kind of religious atmosphere if any they were raised in and the kind of providential Circumstances our Sovereign Lord raised up in their lives that drew them to himself and saved them.

And I'd like to hear your story.

But my dad was don't think I ever read it when my best friend inverted I thought he was in a cult so I Spent some time with him. I dust off my Bible to try to the hell air find what the gospel is and and by my reading the Word of God for myself The Lord worked upon my heart.

So at the age of 18 as a senior in high school Kneeling by my bedside. I prayed Lord Jesus. I did that was way back in 1978 it's blessed me and.

Praise God and how and when did you learn of the doctrines of sovereign grace, which are Commonly nicknamed reform theology Calvinism the doctrines of grace the doctrines of free grace comes by a number of Nicknames, how did you discover?

Yeah, how did you discover? How and when did you discover these truths that we hold very dear and and when did you come to embrace them?

Great question to understand more of how God brings about our salvation. We need to talk theologically we need to describe what's in the Bible and how God works. So as a young Christian, I was studying the Bible.

I was mentored by some great folks. I joined inner varsity as a college student and following the too far from Wisconsin reform.

The Doctrines of Sovereign Grace and Reformed Theology

PCR. Yeah, Philadelphia conference on reform theology, which has a very vital place in my own heart and life and my own Coming to really Understand and embrace the doctrines of sovereign grace and not only the PCR T but actually going Several years in a row to hear and see.

Dr. Boyce preach in Manhattan as well as the Philadelphia area with my late wife. We both loved. Dr. Boyce and Yeah, he it was such an honor for me because every time I saw him He vividly remembered who I was.

When when he was still with us before I had my own radio program I worked as an account executive for WMCA Christian radio, which is a part of the Salem Media Network the largest Christian radio network in the world and every time I would see dr. Boyce either at the radio station or At an event of some kind he immediately recognized that I was the only reformed person at WMCA.

And he was very very grateful more for my presence there because of that.

He's a great guy. I have a doctor voice, but your question was coming in. That is so dr. T. I went to first one. Dr. John Gerstner was preaching a message on depravity. And I won't imitate.

I Have done my own imitations and in fact RC Spurl loved my imitation of Dr. Gerstner when I met him in the basement of a church in Manhattan where he was preaching and and the funny thing is that.

RC's voice at that time was not very different from dr. Gerstner. It's a lot of similar, but dr. Gerstner Cole, you know, I'll bet you we were at the same PCR T because one of the.

Early PCR T's Attended featured dr. Gerstner and The the names that you just mentioned and I don't know why. Roger Nicole that was it. Roger Nicole whose voice sounds from my memory very much like Henry Kissinger.

Yes, I don't know if if indeed this was the same conference that that I'm thinking of the same exact one.

There was a very memorable scene at the conference where John Gerstner With James Montgomery voice sitting behind him looking as white as a ghost because I think he was fearful about the Really outspoken way, which dr. Gerstner said this.

But he he said I think that he developed an Acronym for Arminians that was lilac. If I'm not mistaken, it could have been a different flower but it brings about and he said you can't be a Lilac Christian actually believe what you say you believe and be saved.

Let me repeat that you cannot be a lilac Christian actually believe what you say you believe and be saved. And what what he meant by that I believe is that if you take Arminian ism to its logical conclusions I don't think he was discounting the salvation of evangelical Arminians.

Which why is why dr. Boyce I think was very nervous by his statements. But but I think he was saying if you really were to take those views to their logical conclusions, you would have a false gospel.

Yeah, yeah. In dr. Gerstner We might refer to dr. Boyce is maybe the more intellectual of that squad dr Nicole as well as some good men in college some older classmates.

Well, I'm gonna give our listeners our email address if they care to send in a question. Since our guest today David Bissett is a pastor. We will broaden The subject matters over which you may ask him a question to any Theological issue regarding the scriptures or even a pastoral issue.

But we are mainly primarily speaking on the theme communion with God and we would prefer questions on that theme. And our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Chris Arnzen a gmail .com. As always give us your first name at least your city and state of residence and Your country of residence if you live outside the USA.

Well hearing a title like this communion with God. Very likely you may have listeners perhaps they're new believers and Perhaps they're not very familiar with a lot of the terminology of Christianity.

They might immediately jump to the conclusion that you're speaking of the Lord's Supper the Eucharist the Lord's Table. And of course that does without question involve communion with God. But there's a much broader and deeper issue that involved in this theme in this phrase.

Perhaps if you could just define it right off the bat. So our listeners and that will know Where what direction we're heading here?

Yeah, but is to draw upon the broader understanding that was popularized by the Puritan John Owen that our communion is With God the Father Son and Holy Spirit maker of heaven and earth. The Apostle John with our hands praise God.

Communion with God in the Puritan Tradition

Well. Before I start to dissect with you even further that theme of communion with God. Do you have the specific topics that you are addressing or topic singular that you are addressing at the banner of truth conference?

Yeah, the banner of truth conference. I want to chime in a little bit an opening address and I shadow of the Almighty.

And I'm very excited about this conference because not only does it feature you it features Rhett Dodson and Ian Hamilton and a man that I consider to be the most powerful preacher alive on the planet earth Conrad and Bayway who I've heard.

Oh, I've heard him preach many times. In fact, I don't know if you're aware of this. But the church where I was saved Which eventually became Went by the name Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Long Island on Long Island, New York.

It was originally called Calvary Baptist Church of Amityville but very first American church where Conrad ever preached was Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Long Island in Merrick and I was present there for it.

In fact, I helped promote it when I was working for WMCA radio and over a three-day period we had not including the Members of our own congregation. We had over 500 visitors During that three-day weekend to hear Conrad because of the radio commercials that which included a clip of him preaching.

And he's become a very dear friend. And if anybody wants to hear his Interviews with me on this program. All you have to do is go to the Iron Shepherd Zion radio .com website click on past shows podcast and type in Conrad in the search engine and nearly all of the interviews that pop up will be interviews with Conrad and Bayway, I believe I have interviewed other people by that name at least one other but Conrad and Bayways interviews certainly will come up and The conference also features John Payne and Chad Van Dix horn, so I'm really looking forward God willing to being there myself.

It's always a great time of not only learning and being edified but fellowship as well.

Conrad and Bay brother. An encouraging and joyful brother, but he's a few men I've ever well.

I want to give our listeners the website if they want to find out more about the conference and if they want to register for it. You could go to banner of truth org Banner of truth org and then you can click on the events tab Banner of truth org and click on events and then you will click on East Coast ministers conference.

And if if any of our West Coast listeners a desire to attend the West Coast conference Just click on West Coast ministers conference. That one will be in November first through the third in Ramona, California.

But the one that's coming up very very soon the East Coast ministers conference in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania is May 24th through the 26th. So I hope to see many of you in my listening audience there in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania at the banner of truth conference.

Go ahead. I would get about it to check the website today. I think amen and.

We are going to go to a Station break route right now because I don't want to interrupt you in mid-sentence. So I think this would be a wise time for me to take our first break if anybody listening. Would like to send in a question.

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This is Chris Arnson. If you just tuned us in our guest today for the entire program is David Bissett the pastor at Clifton Park Community Church in Clifton Park, New York. He's also one of the featured speakers at the upcoming banner of truth East Coast a conference Of the banner of truth East Coast ministers conference and That is on the theme the communion with God and we are also discussing that theme right now.

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If your question involves a personal and private matter, and in fact before we enter into The theme of the communion of God. We do have a listener who has an off-topic question. This is this is CM from Avril Park, New York.

Mm-hmm, and he says pastor Bissett who is the man of lawlessness of Second Thessalonians? Chapter two. Oh, and then he's saying just kidding Oh now I see his name is his first name is actually Chad.

Yeah, and he's a interviewee.

Great. Well his real question Apparently is how do you keep up and maintain communion with God on a daily basis? Further will you be addressing the work of John Owen on this subject and I assume he means in the conference.

But perhaps he means in this interview either or both. So the first part of his question is how do you keep up and maintain communion with God on a daily basis. Well, thank you Chad and guess what since you are a first-time questioner Not only have you won the book that you that you asked about communion with God by John Owen you're also going to win a free New American Standard Bible.

So, please give us your full mailing address in Averill Park, New York, and we will have CV bbs .com. That's Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service. CV bbs .com ship that out to you and we want to thank banner of truth Right here in Carlisle, Pennsylvania For providing with us a limited number of copies of this book by John Owen for listener giveaways and I think it would be wise to let our listeners know I mean, it's unlikely that most of our listeners do not know who John Owen was but we have Very often gotten emails with questions From new believers and even non-believers on a rare occasion even a Muslim or an atheist and agnostic Roman Catholic Even on rarer occasions a Jewish individual Orthodox Jew.

But for those of our listeners who are unfamiliar with John Owen please let our listeners give us a thumbnail sketch of him because he is truly one of the giants of Christianity and one of the things that I loved about him is that even though he was a prominent and beloved academic He was humble enough and wise enough and discerning enough to share his pulpit with John Bunyan who was didn't did not have any formal education and Was also an ex-convict Because he was arrested for proclaiming the gospel as a non ordained Minister of the gospel.

He was a baptistic Evangelist and minister and pastor and not ordained in the Anglican Church, but if you could.

Living. Yeah, I've got to get Carl back on my show because I want to interview him on his new book strange new world.

And he has been on before and has written a very glowing commendation of this program. Well, thanks again Chad for that great Question and or questions and keep your eye open for the Bible. And by the way the book By John Owen, you're gonna have to be patient with us because banner of truth is Republishing it with a different cover.

So they have informed us that it may take Several weeks before we can ship that out to you. So just be patient with us, but you should get the Bible sooner than that. Thanks a lot.

Right here, yeah, I just.

Had instantly recalled to my memory the rare jewel of Christian contentment by Jeremiah Burroughs Which is a part of that series of Puritan paperbacks and all of those all of those volumes in the Puritan paperbacks are must reads and You will for those of our listeners who are apprehensive when they think or when they hear a Puritan wrote this what possible application will this have to my life in the 21st century you'll be amazed How often the Puritans, right?

And in spite of any Grammar or outdated vocabulary that they may have if a if a work has not been Translated in an updated English edition modern English edition. You will be amazed at how relevant These writings are even in the 21st century.

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That's Cumberland Valley Bible book service CV BBS calm. And they have all of banner of truth's titles, but I'm sorry. You were about to say something David. Oh.

I hope the young listeners cradle on the internet around the world. I think modern Christian bookstores are filled with a lot of fat. We have another listener.

We have Bobby in Hartsdale, New York who asks Can someone truly have communion with God and lose it or is?

Communion with God something that is only granted to the elect and rather than Communion with God call God father out them at our church and then the Holy See so so in other words an elect person.

Especially when you are considering The understanding of backsliding. I know that there are many reformed Christians that don't like that term because it's an Old Testament term but the The concept I mean, it's it's just it's patently and blatantly obvious That there are Christians not all I mean every Christian sins, but there are some Christians Who temporarily fall into a deep dark state of rebellion and I can even say Because I've said it many times in this show.

I Am such I am one such person. I Over a decade ago fell back into or dived headfirst into a sin, that was my prominent sin before salvation and that is habitual unrepentant drunkenness and I was under church discipline and I followed all of the Orders of the elders in order to be restored to full fellowship and to demonstrate genuine repentance.

I went to a Rehabilitation a Christian drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility in Boone, North Carolina Called Hebron colony. I highly recommend anybody listening Who is in that predicament to go there, but it did without question Halter and Disrupt my communion with God during the that season of darkness Before I was restored to sanity, but we're gonna pick up right where I left off there.

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