Dead Men Walking Podcast Greg Moore & Jason Hamlin Episode 6

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Dead Men Walking starts now. Well hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of Dead Men Walking.

I'm your host Greg Moore. I just want to say thank you guys so much for listening, for following on YouTube and Instagram and Facebook and for downloading on Apple and Google Play and Spotify and all the places you find our podcasts.

The response has been overwhelming, I do appreciate it. Well I think we have a semi -announcement today.

I think we drafted, finally I drafted Jason Hamlin to be the co -host of Dead Men Walking.

So right hello there. Where's the claps? Hold on, hold on, ready? Let's go. Nope that's laughter.

That would be better. Jason Hamlin, our co -host. This is high school all over again.

Right, but I think we have drafted him into into being a co -host so you're gonna see, you're gonna hear a lot more of Jason as we go forward.

So how you doing brother? I'm doing awesome. Yeah? Yeah, things uh. How's your week been? It's been great.

I mean here we are still in COVID -19 land. Yeah. You know still trying to get through and figure out exactly what's going on.

I'm still holding out on you know waiting on to see what's going on with all the numbers, the actual numbers.

Sure. Hopefully we can actually get some true real numbers from this whole thing because I'm pretty sure didn't the

CDC just come out with some. I think they came out with new numbers and you know.

No one's numbers match either. Yeah nothing. Everything's kind of fluctuating. Yeah and I mean we have things that are you know you have people that are dying where they're just putting

COVID on it no matter if it is COVID or not. Yeah. It's like wait what you can't really call pneumonia.

Well. You know and cross but they're getting paid to do that so. Well here's here's the issue is not only do

I first -hand knowledge of that. I have second -hand knowledge of that. Here where I live in the county

I live. I am a county commissioner so I'm in in contact with our health director and things like that.

Our very first case that we that we classified as COVID -19. The gentleman had underlying issues.

He had diabetes, heart disease, some other issues and we just classified it as linked to COVID -19.

Okay. And when I questioned the health director they said well we tested positive for COVID -19 but we don't know if that's the cause of death.

So anyone who tests positive and they die that's the cause. Wow. Which which is a you know maybe a little misleading if it's not clarified for people they just assume it's you know oh they caught this virus and then died from it.

And then I have a friends two friends that are nurses a family member that's a nurse registered nurse and then also a doctor a good friend of mine.

And they said that's kind of the same thing if there's any type of respiratory issue they just classified as COVID -19 because they say they don't have the test and then move on from there.

Okay. Which you know it's it's it's unfortunate because looking back on this we really won't be able to tell if we're not you know classifying these correctly we won't be able to tell.

Right. You know where people were actually affected who had it how it was transmitted.

Yeah. You know miss miss diagnosing the cause of death can really cause problems as we study this virus in the future.

Right. Yeah yeah so I'm not quite sure why we're doing that yet. I mean there's all kinds of theories about it.

Lots of conspiracy. A lot of conspiracy theories which I mean. Which isn't helping anything.

No I'm just. Which you know it's there's there's truth to some conspiracy theories there's you know there's not truth to some other ones.

I think we have to use discernment and everything we look at. You know when I look at the COVID -19

I see you know studies coming out that say you know mortality rate now is 0 .1

to 0 .4 percent fatality rate excuse me. Survival rates in the 99 and a half percent because they a lot of people have already been infected with it but have already you know autoimmune to it or antibodies and don't show any science.

Right. And this study came out of USC in L .A. County which isn't exactly known for being conservative.

Yeah. It's a pretty you know not you'd hope that science isn't political but unfortunately we've seen that it can become political on both sides.

Numbers and stats and polls and scientific research. So they're estimating that 70 percent of the population has been infected with it.

I mean that's huge. And they say most of those have no no symptoms.

Yeah. Which drops that more you know that fatality rate down to less than one half of one percent.

Right. My my wife in December came down with this weird just cough.

You know in this in this she started. I want to say she had a little bit of a fever but but she still says to this day that she survived

COVID. You know. So I know it was like it went through her through the salon that she works at.

Yeah. You know and everybody had this weird thing just random weird cough and I mean who knows what it was.

I know a lot of people that think they had it in late November. Yeah. Early December December. If you think back to December I remember how many people had this just they just kept calling it a real bad flu.

Yeah. You know and they classified anything with respiratory issues as the flu.

Right. Because they didn't know. I had no idea. So I mean it's crazy. It's it's also you know it's it's a great lesson on just trusting in the

Lord as well. Yeah. Because we've seen I mean just fear and anxiety enter the public sphere just instantly overnight over something you can't see you know something like a virus.

And I think it just really lets us focus that much more put our attention to trusting in the

Lord instead of trusting in our own might. Our own science. You know our own understanding.

But yeah. So way to start out with a downer there. Sorry. Sorry. You know and I just fed right into it.

I'm just kidding. I'm messing with you. Yeah. I can throw I can throw a few more things in there if you want.

How's your daughter. Oh Emsley Jane is amazing. Yeah. A couple of months old little over a month.

She is three months. Oh my gosh. On Sunday. Wow. I want to say something like that.

But yeah. But yeah. I mean she's she's starting to do little giggles. Yeah. A little laughs and she laughs at me all the time.

You know just like our audience did there for a moment. No I'm just joking. But. But yeah

I mean she's awesome. She she threw up on me before I showed up here. Had to change my shirt. Nice. Which was cool.

You know it's all good baby love. Yeah. Which what shirt are you. Are you wearing that shirt tonight for tonight's subject.

Yeah. Sola Scriptura. I decided to go ahead and throw on. Yeah. One of the five solas.

That's what we're gonna be talking about tonight. Yeah. Yeah. We wanted to get into the five solas kind of history of where they came from.

Where they're found in scripture. What are they. Yeah. Some people aren't familiar with them. I had no idea what they were.

Probably about a year ago. Yeah. And even now I mean like it's such a deep subject.

I mean it's. You can go so far into that. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Five solos is amazing.

Well it's weird for me because I grew up with some of them being taught to me but not being called that.

OK. You know when when I was younger it was well the Bible is the inspired word of God.

That's what we listen to. That's that's our authority and nothing else. Right. But I was you know we were talking about Sola Scriptura but that term never came up or where or why do we believe that.

I didn't even know until I got much older that there was other denominations and other religions within the

Christian heading that believe differently. You know Catholics for instance have church tradition and the scriptures that they say define that are both authoritative.

Yeah. Which we can get into that discussion because that one's that one's kind of a head twister where they say well one doesn't supersede the other but essentially church tradition does interpret scripture.

So in my mind I would say your tradition is actually the last authoritative word over scripture if you're a true

Catholic. But but we're getting ahead of ourselves. So yeah. So the daughter's doing good.

We're still getting through the COVID -19. COVID. Yeah. I mean like I mean in the

Hamlin household life is good. That's good. Us too. We are. Yeah. I mean are you guys.

Have you changed much. I mean I know this is your. This is the way your life kind of looks already. You guys are homeschooling.

Yeah. You know home from work. Home from work. And I know I've had a couple of deals with real estate go through even during this time stuff that was already on the market that was vacant.

People are purchasing now in real estate they're purchasing without viewing until they get to an inspection phase and the inspectors can kind of can can have a term that they use that get them into the house that it's essential.

So then you know the realtors and the buyers can go at that time. So it's I always find it funny that you know free markets will always find a way.

Yeah. And it's it's I'm talking to people that are you know here in Michigan classified as the non -essential but they're still finding a way to get things done whether it's virtual or you know some some loopholes created in the executive order.

So for me it hasn't changed too much. I'm loving you know here in Michigan it was 74 degrees today sunny.

You know we were outside playing soccer and football and you know doing all that kind of stuff. Yeah.

Planning to build another building here on the property a garage. So I was kind of talking to a contractor about that just right out here on the side.

Probably like a three car that faces the house. Do some finish off the asphalt and stuff like that. Sweet. But so that kept me busy for a little bit.

But yeah not too much has changed. Did you go up to Lansing the other day. I didn't. Yeah here in Michigan.

I was looking for you in the crowd was like it's great. No I had someone reach out to me with his AK -47.

You gonna be there Thursday at nine. I said I might try to make it but I didn't make it up there. But yeah here in Michigan for those listening outside of Michigan there was geez three

I think three protests now one in front of the governor's mansion one at the Capitol and then another one at the Capitol. And we have a whole legal issue going on there.

Our legislature did not renew the authority for the governor to extend the executive order.

She says she does have the authority without going to the legislature. They're both referring to two different public acts to back up their claim.

And then our house state house submitted legislation that said we have the right to sue you if you do extend.

They voted that in. She immediately extended to May 28th for the shutdown and non -travel between certain places.

And it looks like we're gonna be in a court battle for most of the summer. Does this I mean you know

I know you're you're in positive. I mean I mean is this more political? Does it look more political?

Is it more than you know I'm saving lives. I'm like the wrong guy and the right guy to ask

I guess you would say. I'm the wrong guy because I think once you're involved in it everything becomes political.

It's it's so sad. I mean everyone and then there's double talk. So they they talk one way but you know the real reason why why they're doing it.

I said from the very get -go under public act of 1976 in Michigan.

She needs to be checked by the legislature. She's the executive, the legislature, the state house, and the state

Senate. That's they were voted in by the people. Now the governor you know is voted in by the by the people as well.

But they're the voice of the people especially the house. They run every two years and they're closest to their constituents.

And you have to have a balance of power. You can't have a governor. I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat or any party. They can't have full control of you know what's over private business even too of what to do and what to say.

The legislature keeps them in balance. That's you know we have the three branches of government for that reason. And I was really worried that the that the

Michigan legislature was going to abdicate their power to the governor. But I'll tell you what when you have a thousand people show up in a protest and you know and kind of voice their opinions online and and you have grassroots from both sides of the aisle really that are displeased with some of the things that are going on.

You're elected representatives they have to respond. And they did on April 30th by not extending that.

I think both parties Democrats and Republicans want to see us reopen.

And I think both parties want to do it safely. I don't think Democrat I'm not going to demonize

Democrats or Republicans and say oh one just loves business and the other one just doesn't want anyone to die you know.

But they have different ways of going about it. But I think too it's hard for a democratically elected you know elected

Democrat to go against a Democratic governor. Yeah. And I think really when

I I've been in politics long enough there's some other political stuff going on here. I don't have any firsthand knowledge but I would say from her actions our governor she is vying for a

VP slot with Joe Biden. She knows that the more time she gets on camera the more time she can update.

I mean even some of her words like my state and my my mine it's like well it's kind of a we thing. Right. It's not just you doing it.

I mean you know you have state police and sheriff and legislatures and local county governments all private businesses and business owners all working together.

It's not just because you've decreed something and then you know the solution happens. People have to obey it and you know social distance and do all those things.

Tyranny. Yeah. So when I look at it I go man I don't know maybe

I'm jaded but I think there's some political motivation from our governor there as well. Right. You know she's already thinking about re -election two years in.

You normally do as a governor so. Yeah I mean I you know I don't know just just watching a lot of these small businesses.

Is this mic going in and out? I think this mic might be going in and out. Yeah it was last episode too but it didn't show up on the recording so I don't know if I've got something in the corner but you should be good.

Okay but yeah just small businesses watching you know some of these some of these people that are losing their businesses that that know that they're not gonna be able to reopen you know or there's way too many way too many just what's the word

I'm looking for here? Restrictions and sure the way you're gonna run your business by wearing face masks and face shields gloves you know changing your your gown every you know you're covering like if you're at at Mandy's salon my wife's salon they're gonna have to wear a face mask a shield wear a covering you know like they're cutting hair yeah and but they're gonna have to change that every single person that comes in they're gonna have to change it and it's like man oh man like how much extra money is she gonna have to pay that's her business so it's like how much money are we gonna have to pay to have all of this extra yeah you know so it's well here and here's the argument that you get because the argument in the

United States politically now has really been emotion versus logic and you get that a even in Christianity to what

I feel versus what is true right right and in politics you know the left is very good at emotionally driven arguments and sometimes that's good like you have to have empathy for people to also help legislate and then the right usually uses facts and logic a little bit more heavy and say well no this is the issue we should do things by what the reality of what it is not what it feels like obviously

I tend to lean more towards logic in fact and truth and the reason why is because biblically you know

Jeremiah says do not trust your heart or emotions they will mislead you every time you know yeah so when

I look at this here's the issue when you say I feel for businesses and spending this money you know maybe someone from the other side of the aisle or even someone who is more mercy motivated and emotionally driven says oh but what about people dying and this and that and I say okay

I don't want to be cruel and I'm not being non -empathetic but if we logically look at this disease versus other disease or viruses versus other viruses this has an are not of like two and a half which means for every one person affected you can infect two and a half people right we now know that it's a 0 .1

to 0 .4 percent fatality rate which is less than the flu or influenza influenza strand that happens every year you have most people that are passing away from it that's a secondary issue they already have primary issues with their health so when you look at the coronavirus or COVID -19 it kind of equals up really to like a like a flu virus yeah maybe a little more contagious but overall it actually has now it we found out has less of a fatality rate than the flu so for the last hundred years when we've been tracking types of flus we've never shut down a government for influenza and I'm not trying to sound crass here or you know unemotional but we have anywhere from 60 to 100 ,000 people every year that die right from these types of viruses or there were

I think there were 44 cases in March when we shut the entire country down yeah 44

I don't know if it was I want to say it was 44 deaths sure you know and and we shut the entire country down in the

CDC that's what it's what it it's what they came out with their numbers sure the only issue with that is in February and early

March we weren't testing either so I do understand that argument you know if I if we ran no test we can say no one has

Corona yeah awesome it's done obviously the more tests that we have the more positive results we're going to get to have the actual but my my greater point to that was it's always risk versus reward what are we risking versus the reward and we have something that essentially mimics the the flu and we are literally crushing people's livelihoods and putting them out of work and taking away their businesses that they've worked for for generations sometime that's not a good thing and that can't last you know this virus is going to be around for years to come oh yeah the flu doesn't go away

SARS hasn't gone away Ebola hasn't gone away you know h1n1 hasn't gone away which we had one in five

Americans affected by h1n1 under Obama in 2009 and 10 we did nothing like 60 million

Americans infected that's no 60 million right we're at a hundred thousand right now right and h1n1 is much deadlier than anything we're talking about so when

I look at it through you know logic and kind of you know history and what actually is going on it's very hard to justify all of this you know the executive orders in the you know pandemic status and all these in a shutdown a private business you just go well we didn't do this before and we were just fine and now we're gonna have much much bigger risk of hurting the

American people then you know not doing it including debt on the nation

I mean look look where our kids gonna be paying you know I mean grandkids great grandkids

I mean this is gonna go over I really think it will unless you know it was funny

I was listening to he's a I can't remember his last name I think it's Kyle Kalinsky he runs like a

YouTube show he's an atheist and liberal and I always tell people be informed about all sides of an issue yeah you know

I'll dip into some atheism dip into some NPR dip into some MSNBC every once in a while just to kind of see what they're talking about they're talking points where they're coming from because I don't you know all those things

I just mentioned are not my go -to news sources and my beliefs but he was saying well see we can do

UBI which is universal basic income we can do health care for all we've just found four trillion dollars out of thin air and I went yeah we didn't find it literally just devalued the currency by four trillion dollars and added it to our debt exactly you know and we're already at 23 trillion dollars

I mean this can't keep going right and if you know and people go oh well you know

I'm getting a stimulus and I'm gonna spend that money it's like well we essentially just devalue the dollar by two or three percent instantly so your dollar has three percent less buying power overnight and really the oh you know you know who that harms the most is people who actually save money right or invest in the stock market if I have a hundred thousand dollars saved in the bank and you print four trillion dollars out of thin air you've just made my hundred thousand dollars worth ninety seven thousand dollars and I haven't done anything right all

I did was hold on to it and save it like I should have yeah no you're not I heard that I heard

Dave Ramsey actually say that um I think it was something like 40 % of the population in America could not pay a $400 bill when all of this happened sure they had they don't have enough safe emergency yeah

I mean that you know just that in general I mean it's it's just surprising yeah you know

I heard ship I heard someone say in just full disclosure to everyone listening

Jason and I we are not financial advisors no we are not theologians we're not licensed psychologists so everything we say take it with a grain of salt and measured against the

Word of God and your conscience but you should play Taylor guitars but you should play

Taylor to guitars yeah did you see that comment on Apple they said I'm gonna I'm gonna keep listening even though I'm pretty sure that was

Vince it has that Vince that's a buddy of ours and the

Taylor vs. Martin debate but yeah no it's yeah it's it's definitely it's definitely crazy right now yeah so let's let's maybe move on to some other things some some godly scripture some some awesome awesome

God stuff you know when I was going through these solos yeah the topic I mean

I was interior the entire time I'm just talking about salvation man

I mean I'm just like I mean and even the other night when we were having a conversation with Savannah her telling her testimony yeah

I mean just just hearing your testimony I mean and I still get choked up about my testimony I mean just from where I was dead and you know spiritually dead sure you know to where God has brought me

I mean it's you know and I'm still a work in progress for sure sanctification still happening yeah but but man it is it is an awesome awesome topic to go through man so which it's such a good point you know

I every day I just go man I've the Lord had no business saving me and then

I say that quite often jokingly and I kind of got rebuked one time and and I just heard the

Holy Spirit tell me yeah you don't even get to say that you don't get to say who the Lord chooses to save and who doesn't who he extends grace and mercy to and who he whom he doesn't and I went yeah even that can you know you don't want to get too prideful in that either right but yeah so the five solos

I had a lot of people actually before you brought this up this is such a cool confirmation reach out to me and you know private message me say here's some subjects we like to hear about and probably two or three people said the solos nice and for for those listening that are familiar some of this will be review for those of you that are listening and you don't know about them that's gonna sound familiar and maybe we'll just classify it for you and maybe you don't know about it at all do you want to run down the five solos for us yeah yeah you have them there in front of you

I could do that rattle them off so I'm gonna ask you how to say this in Latin though all of these all of these you know yeah are said in Latin but sola gratia is that how you say that or do you because I always want to say grazia and I'm like wait a second that's that's

Italian isn't it yeah isn't it grazia but Latin and Italian kind of right there yeah yeah right yeah so sola gratia yeah yeah that's a grace alone yep solus

Christus Christ Christ Christ alone sola fide yeah faith alone soli deo gloria glory of God alone to the glory of God alone yeah sola scriptura which is on my shirt scripture alone scripture alone yeah so the five solas really came out of the

Reformation I mean that's really where there started to be some focus on these kind of theological points and to you know and for people listening you will never find the term five solas in the

Bible right first of all it's Latin Bible wasn't written in Latin but it's almost

I liken it to the Trinity right we don't have the word Trinity in the Bible but any

Bible -believing Christian knows that the Trinity is in the Bible right so the five solas are kind of summing up five biblical principles that are found throughout the

Bible and what happened during the Reformation I mean the overview there was you know obviously 95 things that Luther found you know problems had problems with with the

Catholic Church and he nailed them you know on the door there but really what it came down to was soli fide which was by faith alone

Luther had a real big issue with work salvation and kind of at the time how the

Catholics were saying the Catholic Church was saying that it took both faith and works to be justified in Christ and I mean it really came down to the book of Galatians for Luther and he was saying no you know there was all kinds of issues he had indulgences and selling you know forgiveness and things like that with the

Catholic Church but he stood up he said no we've really strayed from what the Word of God says and out of that within the first hundred years after the

Reformation which was what October 31st 1517 right 1517 then that first hundred years we really started to see these solas kind of as a theological and doctrinal issue develop and be categorized they really didn't even get categorized all five until the 19th century

I mean through you know you see stuff in the 1800s where that you had faith alone

Christ alone and scripture alone and then you kind of had the other two in and out of there for a couple hundred years it wasn't until I believe like 1913 or 1914 and boy

I should know the name of the theologian that coined all five and called them the five solas but I can't you guys can google it so about that but it really wasn't until the last hundred years or so to where we've even referred to him as the five solas just before that we just knew that they were doctrinal issues that were found in the

Bible and Protestantism adhered to them okay yeah most of the most of these outside of maybe

Christ alone you might have some other denominations like Catholicism have some issues with we kind of touched on solo script

Torah but which one did you want to start with yeah yeah I you know I think I I was gonna ask you know with with the start

I mean we're talking about the dead deadness and the wrath of God right sure talking about being dead and sin so I I wrote

I wrote down a few verses and I'd like to just go through them maybe sure try this out let's do it so Romans 3 9 and 10 what then are

Jews any better off no not at all for we have already charged that all both

Jews and Greeks are under sin as it is written none is righteous no not one and then if you go down to verse 23 for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and then if you move on move on over to Romans 6 23 for the wages of sin is death but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our

Lord and Romans 5 9 since there since therefore we have now been justified by his blood much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God 1st

Thessalonians 1 9 and 10 for they themselves report concerning us the kind of reception we had among you and how you turn to God from idols to serve the living and true

God and to wait for his Son from heaven whom he raised from the dead

Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come oh good

I had yeah I mean some more have quite a few man just I mean that just the you know the deadness you know the spiritual dead and just the wrath of God and how we're you know rebellious and you know we're guilty sure

I mean before Christ right yeah and Romans 3 23 through 25 there it probably for me is a very clear along with Ephesians 2 which we'll get into is a clear picture of grace alone yep grace if you read that one do you have that why haven't front all have sinned and fallen short of the glory but all are treated as righteous freely by his grace because of a ransom that was paid by Christ Jesus and I'm sorry

I think you have ESV there I might be reading out of I know you text me before and said what are you using but I'm using common

English Bible okay I don't know how I even got a hold of this Bible it's my one that just sits out here in the office but all good yeah so that that's a great one for grace alone if you flip over to Ephesians 2 for 4 through 10 do you have that yeah read read that for me yeah yeah but God being rich in mercy because of the great love with which he loved us even when we are dead in our trespasses made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved and raised us up with him and sealed and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace and kindness toward us in Christ Jesus for by grace you have been saved through faith and this is not your own doing it is the gift of God not a result of works so that no one may boast for we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works which

God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them well yeah man so that's so straightforward to me right it's almost all was taking out the argument at the knees right because he knew what they were gonna say goes look at you saved by grace alone through faith which even that is a gift even faith is a gift from God it's not something you have in you to where you can work up enough of it or you can gain more of it even the even the gift of faith is a is a gift that God gives to you so you know when we talk about grace alone or solely grass yet rather yet excuse me we have multiple

Bible verses that show this another one I had written down here was first Corinthians 1510 yep that was my next one do you have that one too oh yeah brother because a lot of these are you know we'll probably have some of the same one oh yeah definitely just because we both did a little study yeah we both did our own independent studies of this and yeah these are yeah great versus let me read 1st

Corinthians 1510 I am what I am by God's grace and God's grace hasn't been for nothing in fact

I that is with me no I'm sorry I have worked harder than all others that is it wasn't me but the grace of God that is within me sorry

I skipped the line there yeah that's so I mean even there you're seeing again repeated it's by grace it's by grace it's by grace there's nothing that you've done that can merit your salvation right yeah we have 2nd

Corinthians 9 8 as well yeah jump to that one God is able to make all grace abound to you so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times you may abound in every good work yep yeah so I think this these five solos that we're talking about too

I think are foundational to Christian faith right I don't think that it's this especially to Protestant faith

I don't think that we you know these are much more popular I think in the

Reformed in the Calvinist circles but I think Protestants in general adhere to and there's some smaller denominations that don't but for I would say 98 % these aren't outside of the the realm of salvation for most right

I wouldn't think I mean it's grace Christ you know scripture I mean which one in when

I talk to people about these the biggest comment

I get is oh I understand that concept that I've been taught that concept but I didn't know they were grouped like that or had

Latin phrases attached to them that you know we we actually you know identified as that right which was the experience

I had growing up yeah so do we have any more for grace alone yeah grace alone

I had two more if you would like to hear those Romans 11 5 & 6 so to all at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace but if it is by grace it is no longer on the basis of works otherwise grace would no longer be grace

I mean that's just that's so straightforward that was gonna be my next point as well yeah the definition of grace is undeserved right right and if we believed in a faith that said we contributed to our salvation in some way through works that would kind of not only would it contradict every single verse in the

Bible that just says there's no one righteous your righteous works are like rags all have sinned but it would also

I think put God into not only a box but I don't know if that's any

God that I want to serve that some of my salvation depends on me right

I'm pretty horrible person I pretty much mess up everything I do you know with I heard the parable during this study

I heard somebody talk about Lazarus and how he didn't you know he wasn't the one that that came alive by his by himself it was by the grace of Christ you're calling him forth you know yeah so that's the same with us we're spiritually dead you know and we're being called out of that by grace because it's a gift absolutely we're not making that decision where it's not like 90 % us and then 10 %

Christ you know it's like no no no we didn't that's not how it works which I would say you know we say that's not how it works but there are many believers and scholars and theologians that argue this all the time as well too right you know saying what part do we have in our salvation

I think the most biblically true belief is that we have no part in it right that way that God is the author and finisher of our faith the

Bible says that the Bible says repeatedly and even Christ himself said repeatedly throughout the

Gospels and in the epistles the Lord draws unto himself a people and elect people so when

I read the Bible I see hundreds of verses that talk about Christ being the altar author of our salvation and not the other way around I don't really see anywhere where we contribute it in fact

I saw a funny meme a few years ago and it's a picture of Paul you know falling off the back of a horse and a light you know basically a light from heaven coming down and he goes there

I was on my way to Damascus when I decided to give my heart to the Lord and it's like yeah

I don't think Paul Paul didn't have too much of a choice in there I mean he was knocked off his beast blinded for three days you know aren't our works like filthy rags to ya says your righteousness

I mean that's the scary part of the gospel is you know not that all have sinned it's like that your goodness in your in your righteousness in your own works are like filthy rags to the

Lord right yeah yeah so yeah grace alone number one out of the five and I think

I would say that most Bible believing Christians would agree with that and really you really can't very off that really the only big jump

I see and it's not not to pick on them but when you get deep into Catholicism there is a lot of works and faith works and grace to be justified which that was one of the big splits we had like I said in 1517 with the

Roman Catholic Church right when I go back to the early church fathers and and look at grace alone

I see grace alone permeated throughout their writings I don't really see a whole lot of I see some minority voices but I don't see a whole lot of grace plus works or faith plus works gotcha

I know I know Mormons in 2nd Nephi 2325 they

I got a written down yeah after all we can do like like your works are what give you sure all your salvation and I know that's going into a completely different I wouldn't even you know meet me personally when

I look at the core doctrinal Christian beliefs which are like we said in the very first episode we talked about those core beliefs include things like the divinity of Christ the work on the cross the resurrection the

Trinity those are core doctrinal beliefs that call you Christian there are three or four of those that do not apply to Mormons so if there are any

Mormons out there listening that that would love to have a discussion with me I could probably point you to three or four core doctrinal beliefs where we differ on right one being the deity of Christ also being the

Trinity things like that so we can't become gods right when you say when you say

Mormons I set them outside of Christianity yeah Christian family I'm not trying to be harsh

I'm just trying to say according to the Word of God it's true yeah it's true so grace alone what do we want to go into next

Christ Christ alone Christ alone which a few of these we I think we touched on you read in the very beginning a few that I picked up on that could be

Christ alone yeah I had John 14 6 written down here okay as a biblical read it which

I don't have my phone on me do you have a Bible app where you can get to that John what or do you want me at 14 6 or I can flip to it in my

Bible here 14 6 I got it right here Jesus but the reason we're doing this too is because I think it's very it's very important to always measure everything against the

Word of God so if you have a doctrinal belief or a systematic theology I think it should be measured against the

Word of God amen and when we're talking about these five solas I think we want to show biblical support for him too right so Christ alone

John 14 6 what do you got yeah Jesus said to him I am the way and the truth and the life no one comes to the

Father except through me well that's pretty straightforward very straightforward so there's no other mediator to God except through Christ and this is the one that I would say that out of these five solas

I think even our our our Catholic believers would would the majority of them would believe in that as well too there there are some certain sects that they take the veneration of Mary a little differently and say that she needs to intercede as well but that's even split within the

Catholic faith as well but I don't think you know I think this is a core belief a core doctrine

Christ alone he's the only mediator he advocates on our behalf is only by his work on the cross

I would say that's this one out of the five here are probably the most widely believed within the

Christian faith would you agree with that or would you say there's you know I look at like you don't agree which is fine well the only the only thing that I'm wondering is don't they the

Roman Catholics believe that the Pope is our mediator yeah when he's wearing that there mediator he's the one that you know

I mean Jesus is our high priest in the order of Melchizedek right sure it's like they a

Catholic may want to go to their priest rather than speaking to Christ yeah I don't know

I should probably clarify that church dogma would not agree with this

I would say if you talk to 100 Catholics 90 90 of them would agree with this because a lot of Catholics don't even hear to their own dogma okay and I'm not dogging on them no pun intended believe me

I can go to Protestantism I go to a non -denominational or evangelical Church Methodist Church Lutheran Church and I can ask a hundred of them a question about their denomination and they probably don't adhere to it either yeah so you could ask me something three years ago and I probably don't hear which is fine if you're an error and you want to learn and grow and be sanctified and all that but I would say you know with 2 .9

billion adherents the majority of Roman Catholics yeah don't even really understand you know the terminology of the

Vicar of Christ and the Pope interceding and things like that I would agree with you that most of them would go to a priest instead of having

Christ be the mediator so yeah you kind of got me back around on that one we could say that maybe this one isn't the most universal because once again this was

I don't want to make this about you know the Catholic Church but this came out of right when I say

Catholic Church you have to realize that was the only church right at the time up until that point

I mean you had one universal Church and you know even the term Catholic is sometimes still used to for universal

Church now it's been so long that we have Protestantism and Catholics that you know when we sit when me and you say

Catholic or you say to someone on the street they think of the Catholic Church and all that dogma doctrine and theology you know opposite Christ still on the cross right and so so you know that that's all there was so the

Reformation truly was that it was a reforming of the church we look back and talk about it now 500 years later but then to Martin Luther and after that John Kelvin they were just merely reforming the universal

Church and saying hey we need to get back to basics here we need to get back to Scripture yeah yeah so I also have first Timothy 2 5 okay or Christ alone would you mind

Timothy scrolling through that for me yep Timothy 2 5 for there is one

God and there is one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus oh yeah so that's what you're just talking about love it right there it's like the man the man the man he's the man no that's so yeah what you were just talking about we just brought it up and there's a proof text of there's only one mediator and it's

Christ Jesus no amen no one else can mediate for us on our behalf not a priest not a Pope not a man but Jesus Christ fully man fully

God right you got anything else on Christ oh yeah yeah I have I have a few let's do it once again

Hebrews 9 12 he entered once for all into the holy places not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood thus securing an eternal redemption yes and nothing's going to be added to that you know like it's it's his blood it makes it very straightforward it's final it was once there's nothing else needed yeah that's a great verse for Christ alone yeah

Galatians 221 I do not nullify the grace of God for if righteousness were through the law then

Christ died for no purpose Wow yeah that's pretty heavy Galatians 5 2 through 4 look

I Paul say to you that if you accept circumcision Christ will be of no advantage to you

I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law you are severed from Christ you who would be justified by the law you have fallen away from grace and go

I know you could talk about that one man well what do you know the law and sure so how do you think how do you think that verse reflects

Christ alone why did you pull that one yeah I on that I mean obviously it he's saying that if you add anything to it or if you're trying to pull anything from the law to justify you know in justification or in righteousness sure you know you are you're off base you know if you do anything outside of Christ I mean it's

Christ alone yeah no that that that's you know and we should and we should clarify when it says

Christ alone these are all talking about salvation salvation comes through faith alone

Christ alone grace alone to the glory of God alone and by scripture alone that's kind of so these are all salvific which we should have said that at the top of the show in case

I meant to read but yeah so when we're looking at verses that are talking about Christ is the only way till salvation that's why those apply because salvation comes through Christ alone right no one else what else did you have on 2nd

Corinthians 521 for our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin so that in him we might become the righteousness of God so that in him you might be

Romans 5 17 through 19 for if because of one man's trespasses death reigned through that one man much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man

Jesus Christ therefore as one trespass led to condemnation for all men so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men for as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous

I love that verse and it's so cool because not only do we see the word justification in there but we also once again see these overlapping concepts within one verse so in that verse you have grace alone you have a cry you have justification by faith alone all wrapped up within a few verses there so good yeah so you know when we're talking about these solas once again you will never find the term five solas in the

Bible but you will see all five of these throughout the Old and New Testament this is the last one and this one's this one's really cool yeah

Romans 8 1 through 3 there is there there is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus for the law of the

Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death for God has done what the law weakened by the flesh could not do by sending his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin he condemned sin in the flesh so no condemnation yeah yeah

I just I just you know yeah and I think it's fair to point out too if we're gonna define terms common condemnation is different than guilt there absolutely is guilt in sin because you have been found guilty of sin in fact both

David and Paul in Galatians and David I believe in Psalm 39 you have to double -check me on that says that guilt is a great motivator for repentance so you can be have guilt of of a sin that's our natural moral state when we have been regenerated and have been saved and we sin against God we do feel guilt but condemnation means he holds it against you and condemns you because of that you can feel guilt for sinning but there will never be condemnation in Christ Jesus because as the word says he takes that sin and as far as the

East is from the West which I absolutely love that because we also know that you know the universe itself is expanding at an exponential rate

I thought you were gonna say the world is round no I was gonna be like dude there might be some flat earthers on here man you gotta watch out well even they believe the earth is round it's just flat but you know that the universe is expanding you know faster than the speed of light it's the only thing they know that's faster than speed of light is you know the expansion of the universe and the

Lord takes that sin and as far as the East is from the West so it's always just flying away towards us at an exponential rate so there's no condemnation in Christ right

I think some people think oh well since there's no condemnation kind of like you know since there's grace

I can just keep sinning and may sin abound right and there's no consequences and there's no guilt or I shouldn't feel guilty about sinning

Oh No Romans 6 I would say if you don't feel guilty about sinning

I would even say that you need to strongly question your salvation right because the you know the worst thing you can do when you have been made new in Christ is to sin against Christ and and there should be some guilt there of course there's not going to be condemnation not held against you or Lord it over you right but I just want to make that clarification so those were our

Christ alone's yep a lot of scriptures in there yeah when we do the video upload on this too and when

I upload it to Apple and Spotify and all the places we'll put these scriptures in there for each section if you guys listening want to refer back to them which one you want to go to next faith alone faith alone sole fide yeah solely feed a what do you got on yours there man

I got like seven oh good I only have one we'll start with mine since I have one you did a lot more study than me dude

I I just I I don't know man I just fall in love with this with I love the word so much it's so much fun and I'm I am no scholar

I am I am just a a Christian man in love with his Savior yeah and I just love the word

I mean if I'm off on some stuff here please let me know but I mean you know it's it's like man how can you look at this scripture and not just get pumped yeah

I mean this is just this is great man so absolutely anyway so which one do you want to start you want to start with your list let's go no no go one you had you had the you did it you wanted you did way more home were you the kid like no

I was terrible at school like hey teacher you forgot to give us homework no man I couldn't stay in school

I mean I was you know straight D student no I don't right was but isn't that funny though when the Lord gets a hold of you and then oh man says word in you and you're just like oh

I just want to study it's just amazing I mean I yeah I mean I yeah yeah

I'll have you jump to Romans 5 1 Romans 5 1 I'm sorry

I didn't tell you but I kind of just made you the impromptu reader but I'm totally fine with it so we'll go to Romans 5 1 and read that one yeah

Romans 5 1 therefore since we have been justified by faith we have peace with God through our

Lord Jesus Christ what's the second verse there read the second through him we have also through him we have also obtained access by faith into his grace in which we stand faith alone and we rejoice in the hope of the glory glory soli deo gloria yeah of God awesome yes so we got four of them in that two verses

I should have said five one and two as soon as you start reading and I went I think there's something on two yeah yeah so we got four of the five just on those two verses right and I think that's why

I put that one down there because I love them when they cross over to so what else you got Romans 328

I think we're gonna be spending a lot of time in Romans here yeah man Romans is is the juice is the jam whatever you want to call it it's it is literally the protein shake oh that's the one when you sausage protein shake when you teach it that sounds weird but when you when you need to protein and carb up yeah

Romans or Hebrews by the way where's your venison jerky I'll give you some before you leave I got some inside Romans 328 where we hold that one is justified by faith bone part from works of the law

Wow yeah it's good that one kind of just puts an arrow right through the heart of work salvation right you know needing works to be saved that in the whole book of Galatians but that what a great text verse that is for for for work salvation what else you got

Galatians 216 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ so we also have believed in Christ Jesus in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law because by works of the law no one

I reiterate no one will be justified oh I love that one ding ding

I'm giving that one a Christ on the foundation baby Romans 4 4 & 5 this is gonna knock you off your off your feet let's do it now to the one who works his wages are not counted as a and to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly his faith is counted as righteousness yeah

I mean

I I could keep going here I mean I I don't know how much the the audience wants to hear read one more give us another one you like check this out for faith alone what if I jump down to the

Westminster who chapter 11 paragraph 2 faith okay thus receiving and resting on Christ and his righteousness is the alone instrument of justification yet it yet is it not alone in the person justified but is ever accompanied with all other saving graces and is no dead faith but works by love

Oh beautiful so and that was the Westminster confession that was correct which is a creed yes not that's not canon right that is secondary but those creeds were created from biblical truths exactly to help clarify issues for believers the only thing that we may have to touch on yeah maybe

James went into some of the work stuff yeah and it kind of sounded like he was saying works sure you know does instead of faith you know so so check it out so James 2 24 he says you see that a person is justified by works and not faith alone right so in in Romans 328 though Paul says we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law sure but they're saying the same thing correct correct and what are you quoting there

James what James 2 24 I think if you go a couple verses above and a couple verses below do you have the whole chapter there in front

I have James 3 I could yeah bring up James 2 started like 18 and and then move through that from like James 2 18 to to like a couple after that 26 all right 218 is but someone will say you have faith and I have works show me your faith apart from works and I will show you my faith by my works you believe that God is one you do well even the demons believe in shudder do you want to be shown you foolish person that faith apart from works is useless yeah was not

Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar you see that faith was active along with his works and faith was completed by his works and the scripture was fulfilled that says

Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness and he was called a friend of God you see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone yeah yeah so in context what he's saying is he's arguing back to them and trying to teach them that when we say faith alone we don't say oh it's faith alone and then we do nothing right all we have to do is say a sinner's prayer have a belief a head knowledge and then we just sit back and it's fire insurance and make sure we don't go to hell he's saying they're very specifically hey look at you show me yours with faith just faith and no works

I'm gonna show you in a lie that's a dead faith because it says later on it's useless and dead he says but in a live faith produces works so you're not justified by faith alone that faith has to produce works or it's a dead faith so he's basically saying the same thing but he's letting people know that you know it's not just faith and then nothing happens if it's if your faith doesn't produce good works then it's not a true faith just like how people tell me oh well let's meet questions can a

Christian X Y or Z and it's usually one of those difficult questions that I usually reply with well if a

Christian is doing that then I would probably question the salvation or say maybe they weren't truly saved to begin with because they don't reflect the will of Christ or the will of God and I think

James is making the same argument there he's basically saying look at you can't be lackadaisical if you just profess it with your mouth and there's no outward change right well then

I would say that you haven't had faith at all because you know in wherever it was in 20 or 21 right before we got to 24 he's talking about faith alone but he's saying look at you're not justified by faith alone in the sense of you can just have you can just have a head knowledge or a confession of faith and then that that that's all that's that's where the sanctification and your walk with Christ stops he says no and the live faith actually produces works and those works justify the faith it proved that the faith is real right that the conversion and the regeneration is real right amen love it so what else did we have for faith alone yeah but we could we could move on to Soledad Gloria okay reminds me of a

Christmas song every time which I don't know that I in Excel nuts and excelsius day oh gotcha more

Latin but I'm going in and out over here man

I don't know is it yeah yeah I don't know we might need to check this connection now I think you're good okay you sound good to me no

I had the issue last week I'll figure it out but it came out fine on the on the recording cool all right so let's go to yeah so a day of Gloria how many did you have any to the glory of God alone yeah flip to Isaiah 43 yep get that get that nifty smartphone up there

Isaiah 43 7 I don't even remember what the verse is I just remember tagging it and going

I think I would like to talk about that so when you read it you'll surprise me yeah Isaiah 43 7 everyone who was called by my name whom

I created for my glory whom I formed and made keep going to 8 what does 8 say bring out the people who are blind yet have eyes who are deaf yet have ears man so then he's even okay so even 80s going into like physical ailments and talking about for his glory alone so the solo that says for the glory of God alone is essentially saying that the

Lord saves redeems holds in his hand lifts up draws unto himself for his glory alone has nothing to do about your glory and when

I say you I'm saying the listeners you me everyone included it doesn't say well you know what

I mean I want to save Greg so he gets a little bit of a bump in his status or he gets a little bit a bump with his wife or kids or family or friends has nothing to do with my glory but everything that the

Lord does and everything that the Lord accomplishes even in salvation is his for his glory and his glory alone so Isaiah 43 says that very plainly everything

I do is for my glory and that's the Lord speaking there so what else did you have for yeah yeah second

Corinthians 415 for it is all for your sake so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase

Thanksgiving to the glory of God oh that's beautiful yeah that was second

Corinthians 415 okay Ephesians 2 8 and 9

I think we may have already read but for by grace you have been saved through faith and this is not your own doing it is the gift of God not a result of works so that no one may boast okay

I'll see your first Corinthians once again doing it as a gift even when the

Lord gives gifts to his children glorifies him right how much you know how fun was it when you went from being a kid and going

Christmas is the best time ever I can't wait to get all these gifts this will never get better ever in my life

I can't wait for Christmas every year right to cut to 20 years later your parent and you're like oh my gosh watching how excited right my kids get about opening gifts yeah can this is way better than when

I was a kid I would I would trick you know what I mean so as you mature and as you grow up right if we can once again if we can give gifts to our children and get that immense pleasure right we feel a little bit glorified like how good about it you know

I feel so great about myself when I get a gift specifically for one of my kids and they absolutely love it in that moment yes they're being blessed but I'm being glorified and not in a prideful way saying it feels good to me how much more to a holy and righteous

God when he gives a good gift to his children and he's glorified right it's that same kind of concept I never want to put

God into human terms but we really we really only can we have such a feeble you know understanding of God yeah so I look at that and when

I hear in God gives gifts to his children for his glory I go yeah I totally get that like if I could get just gift upon gift upon gift to my children because I love them so much

I get just as much satisfaction out of that as they get receiving the gallery and that's how we should treat our

Heavenly Father yes we're blessed through the gift but he gets all the glory and forgiving it as well yeah this one's a little bit longer but read it it's okay 1st

Corinthians 1 26 through 31 five verses you're fired here we go oh my gosh five verses see if see if I can read in one breath no

I'm joking what is this a Methodist Church five verses J's come on guy

I got football to watch yeah not right now yeah no sports see

NASCAR doing digital racing they have like Dale Earnhardt jr. an actual NASCAR drivers like with the iRacing with those and they're competing against like normal people and millions of people are tuning in and watching it because they're so hard I'm saying that would be pretty cool though yeah but you can like jump on there's like you know 18 drivers or something in a room and you might just be racing against like Jeff Gordon that's funny or you know and beating him he did like it like a little six -year -old yes

I know like some kids like the king of like racing he's like 16 and he's beating all these NASCAR drivers that's hilarious it's just like you know

I'm getting on YouTube and trying to get something explained to you by a ten -year -old just like okay how do you do it oh

I just got a plug in my phone okay that's how you charge it we watch this one guy for Nintendo switch it's it's the guy in his son but his son does like all the videos and his production quality is like a green screen and like how to get to certain clues and certain games and I'm like this is like the top -level stuff awesome it's just him him and his son you know probably like eight and his dad probably does the video but yeah you know and I'm on it three times a week now for Luigi's Mansion and right you know

Mario party trying to figure out stuff caves yeah but anyway let's get back to the sorry sorry that's super long five years first Corinthians 126 through 31 for consider your calling brothers not many of you were wise according to worldly standards not many were powerful not many were of noble birth but God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise hmm

God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong God chose what is low and despised in the world even things that are not to bring to nothing things that are so that no human being might boast in the presence of God and because of him you are in Christ Jesus who became to us wisdom from God righteousness and sanctification and redemption so that as it is written let the one who boasts boast in the

Lord so wow that's good that's so so we see a lot of things going on there but the reoccurring theme

I'm seeing in to the glory of God alone is the other side of that coin is so that you may not boast right because when

God is glorified we are humbled when we're humbled we're without pride it's pride when we're without pride we become intimate with the

Lord yeah and that's jumping down I'll jump down to the last verse that I have okay Isaiah 2 12 through 17 another five verses but these are again amazing but the

Lord of hosts has a day against all that is proud and lofty against all that is lifted up and it shall be brought low against all the cedars of Lebanon lofty and lifted up and against all the oaks of Bashan against all the lofty mountains and against all the uplifted hills against every high tower and against every fortified wall against all the ships of Tarshish and against all the beautiful craft and the haughtiness of man shall be humbled and the lofty pride of men shall be brought low and the

Lord alone will be exalted in that day and what was that what was that verse that was

Isaiah 2 12 through 17 Wow yeah that was so we got two from Isaiah for glory yeah glory of God alone yeah offer all for God being exalted so cool all right so let's move on to our last one so the scriptura sola scriptura not to be confused with prima scriptura which means it's just just the premium it's like premium gas it's like the prime prima premium

I don't know I'm saying it wrong essentially meaning it's there's other faiths that believe that it's not scripture alone but it's scripture and so scripture and tradition or it's it's a prime source it's infallible it's the prime source of of faith and of salvation but it's not the only gotcha okay we believe in script

Torah alone sola scriptura that's you know scripture alone so let's read through some verses my shirt says

I believe it because you're sure it says can you jump over to 2nd Timothy 316 do you have that one on your list that's a good one uh -huh because there's a few things that we have to second

Timothy 2nd Timothy 316 oh and there's a few things that we need to preface this with too is that not only does the

Bible talk about scripture alone but you have epistles that refer to the

Old Testament and their words of scripture as well too which we'll get to that in the next one but what is 2nd

Timothy 316 2nd Timothy 316 all scripture is breathed out they

Anustos and Greek by God and profitable for teaching for a proof for correction and for training in righteousness so right there we see already that all things scripture is for all things and then he lists a few of those things can you jump to 2nd

Peter 315 totes don't ever say again 215 you said yeah 2nd

Peter 315 Oh 315 315 yeah and for everyone listening this is how we roll on the podcast we just come in unprepared no one knows what who's reading what what scriptures for what and it's a blast and it's a blast so if you see if you're listening and you hear some fumbling around yeah we're that's that's how we roll it's cool that's how we do it as there is a real

Bible there is a point to all of this that we're there's no post -production on this yeah 2nd Peter 315 315 and count the patience of our

Lord as salvation just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him yeah so you're reading

ESV in King James and New King James it does says writing from the scriptures hmm which

I wanted you to read that just to show that and then you read it from the ESV okay that's okay that's okay that that they referred to that as scriptures as well too so we're already setting a precedent that Old Testament and New Testament are infallible scriptures and the

Word of God right what else did you what else did you have had a few other things going in another direction but what what kind of verses did you have first yeah yeah well you know

I I guess we could bring up Erasmus in 1516 yeah you know don't you talk about that a little bit well

I really can't embellish on a lot of it but oh I will I will say that he published the

Greek New Testament in 1516 correct yeah sure and yeah and that's that's when the

Reformation kind of started the ball rolling in a way sure right before Luther actually took it and wrote his 95 thesis yeah there was there was a lot of like elitism going on with the

Catholic Church at that time because even Martin Luther came out and said something you know I'm a kind of mangle the quote but he said

I would take a layman with the Word of God in his hands over a

Pope without the Word of God at any day basically you know what's funny yeah let me read that oh you have it on it says

Luther's expression of Scripture alone unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason

I do not accept the authority of the Popes and the councils for they have contradicted each other my conscience is captive to the

Word of God I cannot and I will not recant anything for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe God help me amen yeah so right there exactly what you that wasn't the one

I was saying but that's a better one that's that's a better one and I've heard that one before he's so right because he was going like look at my allegiance is to the

Word of God of God it's not to a position it's not to a tradition it's not to a church it's to the

Word of God which why it was such a huge deal when you know he nailed those 95 theses and started the

Reformation because he said look at we have to get back to the Word of God so what else do you have for Sola Scriptura scripture alone

Galatians 1 6 through 9 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel not that there is another one but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preach to you let him be accursed as we have said before so now

I say again if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received let him be accursed

Wow and Luther's I was gonna read

Luther's application of Galatians 1 8 sure if that's okay I'll just read it again anything you want brother

Galatians 1 8 this is your world we just live in a now let's do it but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preach to you let him be accursed so this is what

Luther said I considered it proper that the words of Scripture in which the

Saints are described as being deficient in merits are to be preferred to human words in which the

Saints are said to have more merits than they need for the Pope is not above but under the

Word of God according to Galatians 1 8 even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which you received let him be accursed and what was that there was commentary

I Luther was Luther's application of Galatians 1 8 Wow yeah which is great such a good verse or set of verses yeah the one of them that I did want to cover which

I it's a little off topic but it's still under the heading of Scripture alone can you jump to Matthew 15 and it's gonna be verse 3 and verse 6 are the two that I want to highlight you can read 3 through 6 but 3 and 6 would be the 2 and Matthew 15 that I want to highlight and talk about okay he answered them and why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition for God commanded honor your father and mother and whoever reviles father or mother must surely die but you say if anyone tells his father or mother what you would have gained from me is given to God verse 6 he need not honor his father so for the sake of your tradition you have made void the

Word of God hmm so 6 3 and 6 yeah but 6 really puts it the pin right in it he says for the sake of your tradition you have voided the

Word of God I would probably say if I talk to a brother or sister or a non -believer that wants to uphold church tradition or some type of tradition or a theological tradition putting your traditions above what the

Word of God says I would take them right to the words of Christ in Matthew 15 verse 3 and 6 he looked right at the

Pharisees and he said which one are you gonna prioritize in your life the scriptures the

Word of God or your traditions and he accused them and rightly so said you have up you've lifted your traditions above what the

Word of God says and I think that's the final that's really the final nail in the solo script

Torah coffin so to speak because you have Christ himself saying look at you can't put tradition against up against or above the

Word of God right and we even see that when Satan is tempting him he uses the

Word of God as the weapon that you know fights it fights against the temptation coming from Satan yeah but what did you have anything else you want to add to solo script or before we wrap this up no no

I think yeah I think we we got to it you know we're good yeah so five solas we'll just run through them one more time so you have sola gracia sola

Christos sola fide sola de gloria sola script Torah and those mean grace alone

Christ by grace alone by Christ alone by faith alone by to the glory of God alone in scripture alone right love it and all five of those are biblical theological and doctrinally sound beliefs as we just did for the last 45 minutes or so or maybe hours so we will never find those grouped together you know in one passage so to speak right it's all three or four in a few verses yeah yeah but these are doctrinal beliefs that that are upheld by scripture and I think it's you know maybe we talk about for as we close this out here for the last few minutes maybe the importance of even knowing these or why would we even be talking about this on the podcast what what are your thoughts there why do you think this would be important for a believer to know or like I said why we're talking about talking about it now on the podcast yeah

I mean this is this is the basis of coming to Christ this is I mean by grace you're saved yeah through faith

I mean this is this is about salvation you know absolutely and I think if we put ourselves in the in the position where we are making this decision rather than Christ calling us

I think we we we may step into some muddy waters there yeah because it tends to turn into the gospel which we've talked about quite a bit sure but yeah but I think all of these all of these solos are just so important I mean

I had another paragraph here I was gonna I was gonna read it but this is just sums it up great sure by God's grace alone on the basis of Christ alone received through faith alone so that all things lead to the glory of God alone with Scripture as the only final decisive authority for discerning teaching and defending those truths oh that's good yeah that was

I'm pretty sure I got that from Piper you didn't write that hey man you know gosh no

I am he could have pawned it off and just said yeah I'm like Michael Heiser I have nothing that I've ever written

I you know yeah everything is commentary that's Heiser yeah that's yeah that's so powerful and you're so right and I do agree these are foundational beliefs about salvation so I think they're very important to the

Christian to the believer I also think that these five solos really do build the foundation for our walk and for our understanding of who

God is I think if you take any one of these excuse me out of context or too far one way or the other you know every one of these keeps us humble and rightly tells us who we are in comparison to God when we say by grace alone oh there's you don't deserve it right you don't deserve salvation just remember that yeah when it's faith alone there's nothing you did you couldn't have enough faith to believe in this even that's a gift from God and scripture alone oh anytime you want to know who

God is his character in your relation to him go to scripture don't go anywhere else don't go to men or church tradition or anywhere else why is it here is it for me so I can be blessed and I can have nice things and have freedoms and cars and in glory and you know happiness no it's all for God's glory that's why he saved you all for his glory you know so you can go through each one of these individually and it almost puts you in a place of who

God is and who you are in right relation to him and it lays that that heart you know hardens that concrete on your foundation in your walk and in your faith

I think without these understanding these five solas or without having those doctrinal beliefs or being off too far you that's where we get off into weird you know weird theologies and in weird sects of Christianity like you know word of faith for instance if if they were familiar with faith alone

I don't know if they'd be preaching right on Sunday morning about how if you just had a little more faith you could do this or that or heal or get a new car you know faith is a gift from God right there's no faith in you as a as an unsaved unregenerated sinner you had no faith in you know in fact faith itself to believe through grace was a gift of God as we just read tonight you know so I I look at these and say if let's say you're a new believer and you know the

Lord grabs you you're new in your faith you don't know a whole lot about who God is about the word about Christianity in general or even worse you grew up in America and you have the whole wrong idea of what

Christianity is sometimes I would almost prefer to meet someone who has never even heard about biblical

Christianity and start with a fresh slate then try to essentially reprogram right someone who's grown up in you know

Western Christianity but if you're that new believer and you're going what what should

I be studying I would say googling the five solas in in reading each one of those just like we went through in looking at the biblical scriptures references for those would be a great place to start yeah and it would be a great way to really build your foundation of your faith right and and who

God is who Christ was in what salvation is amen so for me it's they're very important and I don't think they're talked about enough right and I don't care if you call them the five solas or not talk about those five things if you want to call it grace alone that's great faith alone that's fine too you don't necessarily have to refer to him as the five solas but I would love to see more evangelical and Protestant teachings on these topics every

Sunday in church yeah instead of some of the other topics that we that we bring up all too often that maybe just tickle itching ears or you know feel -good sermons you know one of my favorite down yeah one of my favorite quotes and I've said it before to his

Spurgeon when he just says look at I should I should basically walk walk out of church on Sunday upset and hurt exactly

I shouldn't feel good you know because it should pierce to the soul right and hurt my flesh and strengthen my spirit exactly so five solas for today's episode

Josh did you have anything else you wanted to add Josh oh my gosh Jason man the second time

I've done known you since we were 16 man I'm just gonna start calling you Jay I'm gonna start calling you

Jay I did call you Jason twice at the beginning of the episode so yeah two verse one

I'm sorry Jade you got anything else oh let's see here hey if anyone's listening and you want to leave us an app comment on like Apple or Spotify just say in all caps

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