Gay Pride, Tragedy, and the Innocent in Ireland.

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And I heard the explosion and ran to see if I could help people. The devastation is unbelievable.

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Anybody that can think they can justify this, they're not Irish, they're Anglos. Alright, so we're here in, what's the name of the town?

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This is Ulma, in County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. We're here, there's a gay pride festival.

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You sort of have two cultures colliding against each other right now. Sort of the old Irish Christendom.

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Still here, preaching a message that contradicts their whole culture, their lifestyle, and the culture of death.

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So you have the gay pride, you have drag queens, and right across the street, you guys are set up with pictures of murdered children.

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And you're giving them literature, talking to them about the gospel, talking to them about the word of God, trying to reason with them and show them the inconsistencies of their position.

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There's a big vocalization, a large vocalization of equal rights, equal rights.

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You even have things like the Equal Rights Campaign. And that's a main part of what they say as foundationals, they believe that all humans deserve equal rights.

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And here you are, at the festival, talking to them about human rights, equal rights.

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Yeah, and essentially it comes down to, we are bringing the gospel into conflict with what is essentially a religion.

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Today, they're meeting with their symbols, with their flags, with their groupings, and essentially it is a religious ceremony.

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And we are trying to be like the early Christians in the Book of Acts, who are going out to where the idols are, and they'll say, we see that you are religious people, but let us tell you about the true

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God, and point them in the direction of the true God. And as you said, one of the ways that we kind of draw the contradiction is that we bring in this idea of rights and how hypocritical it is to talk about rights for LGBT community, while at the same time either turning a completely blind eye or at times participating in the stripping of rights from pre -born human beings.

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And ultimately that comes because the idea of human rights doesn't have a standard. It's not based on a set standard that you can talk about.

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Rights are given and stripped away from people all the time, just based on the whim of society at that time.

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Whereas we're saying that God loves justice. The Bible tells us that God demands justice, and it's

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His word and His law that should be the foundation for all rights. And central to those rights is the demand that thou shalt not murder.

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Right. And so one of the things that's unique about you, about the churches that you're working with, that you're laboring together, is that you are confronting the issue that has been thrust upon you in Northern Ireland and in the

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Republic with the gospel. No compromise. The word of God is the authority, and it's really a gospel -centered issue for you, which is very different than what we've seen in the

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West over the last 50 years, say, since Roe vs. Wade. The approach is gospel -centered with Christ as the focus, with the call to repentance and faith.

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And so praise God for that. The gospel is the power of God for salvation, so that's where transformation is going to take place.

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And it's going to take place when the church does what you're saying and brings the gospel into the public square. And so you're here, but there's something unique about this particular public square that makes this whole issue very, very interesting because you have, again, the

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Gay Pride Festival going on now. You have you guys across the street preaching Christ, pointing to these children who have been sacrificed.

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And you have two cultures in collision, and one culture is saying, no, you should be able to murder your child in the womb if you please, at will.

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And, you know, it's not really a child in the womb, and so you're allowed to dispose of it as you please.

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But this is a unique center to have that conversation. Why is that? So, yeah, there are even those we meet who will say, yeah,

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I absolutely accept that this is a human being, but they're not a person, so they don't have rights, and therefore it doesn't matter if we kill them or not.

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And here in Omagh, Omagh saw one of the absolute darkest days of our history, our recent history, when a bomb exploded in this street back in 1998.

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And the target for the bomb was the courthouse up at the top of the street here that we can see.

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But the bombers were unable to get the bomb the whole way to the courthouse, so they parked it just down the road.

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Just right up here. Yeah, just right up here. And the police started to push everybody from the courthouse down towards the bottom of the street, which was supposed to be safe, but they pushed them right into the mouth of the bomb.

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And the bomb exploded, and it killed 31 people that day. 31? 31 people that day, including two pre -born twins in their mother's womb were among the victims.

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And when you look through the list of victims, they were people ranging throughout all ages, both males, females, people from Spain, from other countries, from the very, very young right the way through to the oldest.

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And the fact is that either the killing of every single one of them was wrong or the killing of 29 of them was wrong.

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But two, it's inconsequential. And nobody in their right mind would say that the murder of those two little boys in the womb that day when the bomb exploded on this street was inconsequential.

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It was nothing. It doesn't matter because they're not people. Because in that scenario, it's impossible to not recognise the worth of those two boys.

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So to then turn around and say, well, children in the womb aren't people, so we can do whatever we want to them.

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It's just an absolute fallacy. And it's a complete contradiction of the two. You know, when we come here to Oma, it's one of the things that we bring up with people, and it's one of the things that causes huge amounts of dissonance with those that we meet on the streets of Oma.

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Because they completely oppose, they abhor what happened here.

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But they turn a blind eye to what's happening in clinics and hospitals around the corner. So it's good to be able to bring that piece of history into conflict with this issue as well.

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Because in Northern Ireland, we have seen horrific acts carried out. We had a

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Saturday afternoon where blood flowed on this street. Young and old, rich and poor, man and woman.

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And once again in Northern Ireland, our sewers are filled with the blood of children murdered in their homes and flushed down the toilet.

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And it's no different than what we had in 40 years of conflict here. In fact, it's much worse.

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You know, we recently... Because it's their own family doing it. It's their own family doing it. And it's on a scale that we have never seen before.

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We had 3 ,500 people killed here. Since 2020. During the

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Troubles, we had 3 ,500 people killed in the Troubles. And since 2020, we've had 3 ,500 children killed.

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You know, so this is... So the point is, the people in Oma and the people here instinctively understand, based upon their own history, why this is immoral and it can't be tolerated.

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But because of a complete idolatrous cultural transformation, they can't live consistently with that.

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So they can call a car bombing that kills two boys in the womb an atrocity and horrible.

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They can even say the word horrible, though if you're an atheist, you can't justify that. But they'll say it's horrible, so they understand instinctively that's horrible.

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But now they're accepting what's been thrust upon Northern Ireland. And not even just accepting it, some of them celebrating it.

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Oh, for sure. And calling it a right and celebrating the fact that they can do what the bombers did here on that day in 1998.

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And it comes from that worldview that has no foundation.

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You know, they have a worldview that has no foundation. And that is why it is so important, so important to us that we bring the

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Gospel into conflict with it. Because, as you said, the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation. It is the only way to make sense of this earth, of ourselves, of each other.

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And as we talked about rights, the idea of rights in our society has no foundation.

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And what we can do is we can point to God's Word as the ultimate foundation for rights and say, well, we're consistent because we can say that the murder of those two twins is wrong, as is the murder of every other child in the womb.

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Right. And they can't. So the secularists, the humanists, the atheists, the agnostic, they don't have a basis, a philosophical or moral basis to complain about anything.

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And yet, because they're in the image of God, they do complain. They do crowd against injustice. And they don't have any transcendent law to point to past their own selves, their feelings, their emotions.

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But it's the Christian worldview, the Word of God, that provides that objective basis and that transcendent law, that eternal, that represents the eternal character of God.

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They can point to that. We can point to that. But when, well, let's just say it, when the

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West throws off their Christian commitments and foundations, when you dismiss the

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Word of God and the Gospel, well, now you've thrown off transcendent law. Yeah. And so now you're dealing with a big transformation that's happening in the

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West now, in Northern Ireland, in the Republic, in England, in America. Yeah. You're seeing now this darkness and this dark culture creeping in because people are throwing off the

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Gospel, throwing off the Christian foundations. And so, something, I was talking to you about this last night, something that's unique that I'm so grateful to God for,

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I'm so terribly grateful to God for, is that on the issue of abortion that we're dealing with now in Northern Ireland, it's very recent.

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Northern Ireland, the Republic, very recent that now it's allowed, that it's promoted, that it's celebrated, that it's honored in places.

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So this is new for you that it's now been thrust upon you like this. We've had it for a long time in my country, but I was saying to you, the

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Church really began to rise up with a consistent message against the issue of abortion, bringing the Gospel into conflict with abortion in, say, the last 10, 15 years.

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You sort of see a remarkable transformation and moves with the Gospel on this issue. Praise God, you are now at the beginning of this slaughter for your nation, but you are with churches and believers and pastors who are fighting from the beginning of this

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Holocaust with the Gospel. Can you talk about that for a minute? I personally can't see how you can argue against abortion without the

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Gospel because ultimately it comes down to your opinion against my opinion. And as human beings we have different opinions and we have we haven't got that ultimate standard.

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And we found out very early in our ministry we went out with our images, we talked about we talked about human development, we talked about the science behind it, we talked about rights and ultimately people turned around and said, well,

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I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. It's not a biological, scientific, but it's a moral question. And your scientists may say something different than my scientists and we go round and round in circles talking about rights, talking about science when actually there's no foundation to any of it.

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It's pointless for me talking about rights and science.

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Yes, we can bring those in. Yes, they back up our argument but ultimately abortion is wrong because God says it is wrong and that has to be our message and that has to be a message that we bring to our own churches.

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It has to be a message that we bring to our pastors. It has to be a message that we bring to the people who are gathered here.

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But it has to be a message that we bring to our legislators as well. You know, and we're seeing here in the

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UK this week a massive constitutional change with the death of the

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Queen and the swearing -in of a new King. And for me, one of the things that really struck me this week, you know, there are protocols when you meet royalty.

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There are things that you must do and things that you know, and from a very early age the Queen has had people bow to her every time that she meets them.

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And this week when she passed into eternity it was her that bowed to the King of Kings and the

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Lord of Lords and to her King. And ultimately, regardless of who we're talking to, whether it be a legislator, whether it be committees, whether it be, you know, and you were saying about talking to a guy in a dress on a, at a committee, we still got to bring

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God's standard and God's law into that conversation even if we think that the person is not going to be receptive.

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Right. Because we still have to say you're in your position because of God. You're appointed by God and you're appointed to uphold his law and punish the evildoer.

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That's a very important, that's a very important aspect of this conversation that needs to get talked about often is that the legislator who's not a believer is still responsible to bow the knee to Jesus Christ because he is

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Lord of all and God commands men everywhere to repent including men in dresses on committees and so he's in the image of God so he needs

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Christ but also the government is an institution, a sphere that God has created for his glory for our good and so on both counts the legislators need the word of God, the law word of God and they need the call to repentance and faith so the unbelieving legislator has as much duty before God to yield to his law and to submit to him as the believing legislator.

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And it's, you know, I was telling Luke earlier we had a, we went to a nearby city called

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Londonderry here a few weeks ago and I bumped into a guy, we held our display and a guy came over and he was trying to block our images and he was a socialist, anarchist, atheist completely hated

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God and we spoke for an hour and a half because he was trying to block all the images and it was great we had a captive audience for an hour and a half and he said to me you know, he does a lot of kind of work in terms of poverty and he said you know what really annoys me about the church what really annoys him about the church is that they don't do things to tackle poverty they're not trying to tackle poverty they're not trying to tackle injustice in society and I said well they run food banks they do drop -ins they support he said no that's charity what

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I'm talking about is they're not forcing change they're not making change and here's a guy who is an atheist hates

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God and longs for theonomy longs for Christians and the church to stand up and say obey

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Jesus and plead the widow's cause and seek justice for the fatherless he is an atheist is wishing the church would do what

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God commands them to do which is incredible you know it really struck me that when we go to legislators when we go to guys in dresses to talk to them about God's law and why they must obey

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Jesus we are doing that as much for their benefit as for ours and theonomy and God's law benefits all of humanity you know so why wouldn't we go and tell our legislators you must obey

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God's law because it benefits us all it's loving our neighbour it's loving our neighbours it's justice for our neighbour yeah totally and society is crying out for that they are crying out for that and they are not getting that from the church you know so for us we try to come out and we do our stuff in the street we try to equip

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Christians you know people in the pews to go into their own churches to spread the message to get their pastors and their ministers to call for abolition to bring the gospel into this we as an organisation we have no membership because we are not trying to build an empire we as an organisation aren't going to abolish abortion that's going to be the church and all we exist to do is equip the church and get the church to take a fight so when it goes to committees and when it goes to our legislators it shouldn't be me it shouldn't be any of the other guys in our group it should be pastors who are on the front line who are talking to legislators and demanding the changes that will bring an end to abortion you know and the unfortunate thing is there are many churches where because of denominational structures in them there are committees within a church denomination who deal with the issue of abortion so many local pastors and ministers don't see it as their job they are like somebody else deals with that we have parachurch organisations who it just gets shipped out to and they all tend to be secular organisations so they are not bringing the gospel into the issue so what we are trying to do and what we are trying to equip is pastors who are ordained in this ministry who have the responsibility and a scary responsibility to bring the gospel into conflict with this issue we are trying to get them to take a stand get them to be the people who go to legislators and speak out and our job is simply to equip them to do that and it is through the church that God will end this horror in our land.