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Matt Slick Bible Study, Parables
Every day is like one of those days.
All right, we're live.
So we'll see how many people start coming into the room.
Charlie should be there.
Laura's there and we've got others in there.
So I'll be able to with this phone set up be able to do some Q &A later.
All right.
What we're gonna do tonight is start on parables and we're gonna go to look 15 and do the prodigal son but before we do all of
that, we're gonna pray and What I'm gonna do for for all of you guys is put this into cultural
context.
When you cultural context things open up I've got a lot of notes and we'll go through stuff.
It's been a while since I've taught it.
So I'm a little bit rusty, but we'll get through it.
Sound good.
Better.
All right, let's pray Lord Jesus.
Thank you for your word your truth that you've given us.
Thank you for the kindness of your salvation and asked Lord that you would show us mercy and grace.
And that you would open up your word to us as you open up our hearts to it Lord Jesus.
We thank you.
We ask you bless everyone here and the listeners.
We ask this Jesus your precious name.
Amen.
Alright, okay so All right,
so you guys are very familiar with the prodigal son and Instead of going through
Read the whole thing and then go back to it.
I'm just going to go through a couple verses at a time and We'll go through and and study.
So it says now all the tax gatherers and sinners were coming near to him to listen to him.
I remember how I said before it was last week.
There were two categories of sinners in biblical theology in the New Testament tax gatherers
and Sinners, so tax gatherers were the Jews who were working for the
Roman state Collecting taxes and if you owed a hundred dollars and they they just said
give me 150 or I'm gonna write down that you didn't pay.
That's what they would do.
They'd make money and they were hated hated so much that there were two categories of sinners
tax gatherers and sinners they had their own
Tax, okay so though these are the people in need and verse 2 and both the Pharisees and the scribes began to grumble saying
this man receives sinners and eats with them now.
In that culture eating was an important issue of fellowship.
It's like I might say to somebody.
Hey, man, let's go and get a cup of coffee.
Let's just go sit down and talk or have a beer together smoke a cigar together, whatever it might be together.
We have these these means of fellowship and a little bit of intimacy like that.
But back then it was even more so you joined with each other you Ate
because generally speaking to eat it was a table and there would be a dish of stew or
something like that and read bread you tear the bread off and you dip it in and He would tear the bread off and dip it into the
same thing.
He'd take the same piece of bread tear something off dip it in.
So the bread was somewhat used like a knife and a spoon or more like a spoon.
It would dip stuff up and you'd eat so it was the same food the same bread that we're taking.
Now when we eat what we do here is that we take a piece of bread.
If we were to all dish something up here.
There'd be a big pot and we would separate each thing individually have our own utensils our own this own that what if we were
to?
Literally get a bigger table like this this low to the ground and Then we were to put food in there and do it the biblical
way where they did it back then and have a big piece Of bread Hawaiian sweet bread to this so good and you rip off some chunks
and then you dip it into.
Probably be something like a burrito.
Scoop it that way and then we would all eat together by leaning on our left elbow.
Which is gonna become important later when we get to something else and then your feet would be away from the table and then you?
Would lean on your left elbow and you would eat with your right hand and that's how it was done.
That's the most common way.
So for example the Last Supper we're all sitting up in chairs.
That's not how it was done.
Okay?
So Jesus is accused of eating with sinners.
Oh, that's a bad thing, isn't it?
To eat with a sinner, you know on a radio today.
Oh who heard the radio show today the guy who called up about the bar?
He goes to bars and he witnesses in bars.
I Have no problem with that.
Go witness in a bar.
You know and I knew a guy once years ago.
It's gonna sound a little bit odd.
I don't get to talk about this very often, but he would go to topless bars.
And I said really and he said look when I was young the way it was where he was.
His dad would bring him into these places and the women there would just take care of him when he was just a little boy.
He grew up with it to that to him.
It was that's what you did and then he became a Christian.
Wait a minute.
Well, he so he stopped that and Then later started realizing there are people there who
need the gospel.
So he would start going into those places and he he says it doesn't bother me doesn't I don't care.
He says I've just seen so much.
There's nothing and he said he could not believe how many times he would find churchgoers
In there and he would just witness to him and I said, okay, I couldn't do it, you know, not me
but You know, I'd be yeah like he's over here.
Yeah, I'm witnessing to you.
It's not gonna happen, but he could do it and that was something he I believe is called to do.
He said he couldn't tell too many people that because they wouldn't understand but I said no I get I get it I get it.
So it's like some people who are Catholics state when they become saved they stay in the Catholic Church.
Some people who are Mormon stayed in the Mormon Church to witness.
He had to be special called for that.
Anyway, all right.
So Jesus is willing to eat with the undesirables.
With those people who are outcasts and he's willing to go be with them.
Verse 11 Look 15
and he said a certain man had two sons and The younger of them said was father father
give me the share of the estate that falls to me and he divided his wealth between them.
Now what the prodigal here is doing in this culture at this time is wishing
for his father's death.
You did not get your inheritance till after your father died.
Father, I want my inheritance now.
He's saying I don't care about you.
I Don't care about you in that culture the expected reaction is for the father to strike
the son and For the oldest son to step in if he's a younger son the older son to step
in and they have a discussion About it and one of them usually gets knocked down in the
process because you Disrespected the father and that was one of the Ten Commandments.
Don't dishonor your mother and father and he is absolutely breaking the Ten Commandments want to think of a
huge one father.
Give me my share.
Give me the share of the estate that falls to me.
And the father should kick him out of the house.
You get out of here you ungrateful little blah blah blah and The father divided the wealth among them.
Now to the ear who's hearing this in that culture first of all that son
needs to be stoned according to the law and The father needs to either beat him up,
but he probably wouldn't because he's his father.
But had the sons or the close relatives take over the job and this what's expected not and the
father gave him his money.
What are you stupid you don't do that kind of a thing you take care of that son you Slap him
around the butter comes in slaps around you don't give him the money.
He just insulted you.
He wants you dead.
Disrespecting everything and you give him the money.
What's wrong with you?
That's the attitude that they're gonna have and I imagine this Jesus saying this in this crowd.
He's saying this in this crowd and people are hearing this good this, you know, Jesus.
I've know what he's talking about.
Oh, I love Jesus parables because they're like little time bombs or little traps, you know, okay I'll just walk
right into this room.
Was that a trap?
Let me just walk.
We put my both my feet on one both feet.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, you know, and this is what would happen with Jesus because he could he was good at this Verse 13
and not many days later.
The younger son gathered everything together and went on a journey into a distant country.
That's important.
And there he squandered his estate with loose living a distant country.
That meant he was abandoning the Jewish heritage the Jewish land and what God had promised the people of
God and The Covenant people and so he was rejecting that he's going
out to a foreign land saying I don't need this anymore I don't need to use my father.
I don't need to be with my my culture.
I'm rejecting God.
This is serious.
This boy deserves to be stoned to death in that culture at that time.
Now imagine what the hearers are doing the hearers Excuse me.
The hearers are going to be saying the same thing.
Where's where's she going with this?
Why doesn't he talk about what ought to be done?
He's not.
So, oh.
That's right.
One other thing.
So there was called the right of redemption of the land so in the Jewish culture the land would revert back to the
owner every I think it's 49 years and if you Took what your estate
was and you went to another land and you gate got rid of all of it.
These are squandering it what you're in leaving what you're essentially doing is is saying I don't want and
don't need the right of redemption this is humongously significant.
It's you know, I can't think of anything off the top my head that might be equivalent but could you imagine the Christian going into a church
and Going to the communion table and overturning it and kicking all the elements all over the floor and then flipping everybody off.
I mean the rage the anger the what are you doing?
That kind of a thing is what's going on here and their attitudes and are these people listening to this?
All right Verse 14 now when he had spent everything a severe
famine occurred in that country and began to be in need.
So everything is lost 15 and he went and attached himself to one of the citizens of that
country and he sent him into his fields to feed swine
unclean animals.
So now he's under the subjection of a foreigner taking care of
It's like saying here Jew feed pigs so now
This guy is In the story he's in another land he's got nothing and
The Whoever it was the boss in charge is equivalently saying Jew
feed the pigs.
Now they're dirty.
They're sloppy.
They stink go take care of them.
That's how bad off this guy was in Verse 16 and he was longing to fill his
stomach with the pods that the swine were eating and no one was giving him anything.
So he was totally rejected by the people around him.
Now let me ask you some questions here the Pharisees the Jews the righteous Jews.
Had they thoroughly and completely rejected the tax gatherers and the
sinners?
Because these Pharisees were self -righteous he eats with sinners and tax gatherers.
They're mocking and they're condemning Verse 17,
but when he came to his senses, he said how many of my father's hired men have more than enough bread?
But I am here dying with hunger so his motivation at this point is poverty
not righteousness and He says I will get up and go
to my father and will say to him father I have sinned against heaven and in your sight I'm no longer worthy to be called your son make
me as one of your hired men.
Now.
Here's a question.
Is he repentant?
Doesn't seem like he is.
He's hungry and at least he could be a servant.
And listen to have some enough to food to eat now think about that go back into your country into
your home and be a servant.
That's how bad off this guy was it was bad.
At least he wouldn't need to live under the same roof as his eldest son.
He'd be out there.
Living someplace, you know on the property and he beats the scorn of the community.
Rejected and scorned but okay.
That's what he's willing to do.
Maybe there's a possibility that you know.
We extrapolate a little bit that there was something that he wanted to pay back to his father.
Maybe as poverty and pain and suffering does it humbles us?
Maybe he was saying something to the effect of you know, I can pay a little bit back.
Maybe we don't know Verse 20 and he got up and came to his father.
But while he was still a long way off his father saw him and felt compassion for him and ran and
embraced him and kissed him.
The father totally accepted the son.
Men of stature in that culture did not run.
That's what the immature did.
That's what the young did.
They would run.
You moseyed you're wise.
You knew how to manage your time in your life.
So that means in public.
He ran to his son.
Felt compassion for him embraced him and kissed him.
Kissing on the cheeks repeatedly.
Embracing him.
The father is obviously a jerk because he first of all He doesn't beat the kid up and kick his rear out
and now he publicly is humiliating himself.
In front of everybody to love this obvious filthy vile sinner.
What is wrong with him?
He would have also.
Raised his tunic to run, right?
He what he would have grabbed his tunics to run.
Yeah, which would have shown his knees which would have been also disgraceful.
Yeah.
Well, maybe because they could run without showing them but as a possibility.
Yeah, that's right.
We're gonna say that.
Yeah, I just wanted understand it better.
Um, so in this concept For some reason I don't know why I feel like they're secluded in the farm
but that wouldn't be the case within a cultural context where They have housing and stuff
like the community knows Who they are and they know who they what how the father
is.
Yes.
And how he should be.
Yeah, he's not.
And then so they also would know the son and The context
of Why aren't you disciplining him right and he's not right even when
he's seeing the son.
He goes ahead and I guess in a sense to them further humiliate.
In the sense of where we would view that as an embarrassment.
The father views that in the sense of humiliation.
On his own self.
Yeah, right humbling himself to just go to bring except right.
The son in that right so I actually going previous to that his son um,
it it proved to me that you're saying that he Assumes that this would be the best
way to get back to the fathers.
Maybe because this is just a parable, right?
But uh, we could assume that what we know from the text is he's hungry.
Yeah, right and that's his main reason.
He's not trying to get back into dad's good grace.
No, he's not.
No, according to the story he's not right.
Right.
He's doing survival with he's a survivalist at this point.
The other question I have is.
He's deciding to go back to his father's house.
Wouldn't he be stoned on site.
If he walked back it's a it's a risk, but that has to be Kind of brought together and a mob
would go they would kind of gather.
But as he's coming the father runs to him and that would have negated any judgment of the culture.
Coming out now one thing that a lot of people miss in that culture is that they were very tight uh.
So, you know the story of the guy knocking the door man's Door at midnight the guy will get him up and
I don't have the information here with me.
But maybe we could do another set of these, uh next week if you want.
But the thing is that one of the greek translations and there's a word variant because of his shame.
Well when I said because of his of the honor, there's a play on words in the greek.
Uh, you've heard you know about that right then remember that no, okay, she had a lot of greek too.
Because.
A person in a village.
Let's just say there was a village of 100 people.
And a traveler was going through.
Well, there's no internet.
There's no pony express.
There's there's nothing it's word of mouth by foot mainly.
Or by horseback, you know if you're rich, but it was slow going.
So if a person went to that community and the community was very rude to them when he leaves.
He's going to tell everybody that community was very rude because you had to be hospitable.
And so that might take a week or two weeks to get to some place or a few days.
Well, it's going to spread.
How much longer do you think it's going to take for the reputation to be?
Restored.
Well now if they're going to do commerce, are they going to want to deal with that group?
No, so this is very very serious.
It's so the community is very tight -knit there very tight -knit just something to think about.
And the son said to him Father, I have sinned against heaven and in your sight.
I am no longer worthy to be called your son.
Now this is what's interesting here.
Look at verse 21.
I'm going to ask you does the son bargain with his father?
Father I have sinned against heaven and in your sight.
I'm no longer worthy to be called your son.
Does he bargain.
No, he doesn't bargain.
All he does is admit his guilt.
I'm, just guilty.
I love the story of of the tax man the pharisee the tax gatherer.
The tax gatherer says, you know, look 18 9 through 14 the tax gatherer says, you know, I'm not.
I didn't do this.
I didn't do that.
I'm not like this.
I you know, look at me.
I pay tithes.
I do all this stuff, but the tax gatherer said be merciful to me.
The sinner not a sinner.
The sinner.
And that man was justified jesus says.
Just admitting guilt, but the father said it was slaves quickly.
Bring out your best robe.
Your best robe that's a sign of dignity and honor.
Bring out and put it on him.
Put a ring on his hand.
The ring a signet ring was a symbol of authority.
You had a ring you could put seals in wax and various things.
And sandals on his feet.
Servants were barefoot.
And people who were upper in class had better shoes better sandals, whatever.
They didn't have socks.
So the feet were dirty.
We'll get to this later.
The feet were dirty.
They were dirty.
They're filthy didn't have pavement.
They have sidewalks a nice cut grass.
They had the same roads through the rocks and the deserts that the animals would use.
Who domesticated being led here and there and you can imagine how dirty those roads would get.
So Bring a fatted calf here kill it and let us eat and be merry.
So a calf is a lot to eat.
It'd be more than we could all eat a calf.
There's a lot there.
So why a calf?
Because there's going to be a big celebration.
Big celebration, I don't think about this.
Who's he going to invite?
Well his servants and his household and others most probably.
The implication is it's going to be a large kind of a gathering.
Which in that culture would be very surprising because he's having the people rejoice with him.
The people see people who have been talking bad about him.
That's the kind of implication and He says bring the fatted calf here kill it.
Let us eat and be merry.
Notice the bloodshed.
It's buried there, but to kill it means to shed his blood.
For this son of mine was dead and has come to life again.
He was lost and has been found and they began to be merry.
So the lost son is found.
Now his older son was in the field verse 25.
And when he came and approached the house, he heard music and dancing.
Excuse me.
You know on the phone a lot today talking and doing a lot today.
So anyway, so another son is lost now now with the older son.
Heard music and dancing.
Why isn't the older son there with him?
Because it's a bit of a big news.
He's back.
The word's gonna spread now.
Maybe he's you know, five acres out.
He couldn't hear anything.
He's in a well, you know, who knows we could get all those possibilities.
But he's supposed to kind of be there that's the implication.
All right, and a host, you know a feast is is a lot and the older son is supposed to be the host in a
feast.
So now this obligates the the ho the older son to be the host in this feast for the
pagan Son who rejected insulted his community god and his father.
So I think the older son's gonna feel let me talk to him for just a few minutes behind the house.
Right the public disgrace of the father.
And he suddenly one of the servants had began inquiring what these things might be and he said to him your brother has come.
And your father has killed a fattened calf because you received him back safe and sound.
But he became angry and was not willing to go in and his father came out and began entreating him.
So the father again goes out.
And meets the father goes out to me it should be that they come to the father.
But no, he goes to them he goes just like god the father comes to us through person of christ.
He's seeking us just as it says in exodus 25 8 build a tabernacle among my people so I can dwell among
them and and when adam and eve sinned it was the pre -incarnate christ who said
Adam, where are you?
You've been looking for him.
It's what god does.
He finds the lost and these parables are in the midst of the lost sheep the lost coin the lost son.
And being found and rejoicing at what's being found
now get this he says verse 29.
But he answered and said to his father look.
Now I when I think I say that I think of my six foot four father.
Uh, I wouldn't speak to him like that because he had these long arms.
They were stretchy and he could reach across a room.
And wrap you inside the head and even if you know, you're 30 feet away, you know, like look.
How'd you do that?
And that's what my dad could do and um, I wouldn't say that to him.
I'd say well dad.
Yeah, blah blah blah, you know and take a few steps back and then get ready to run, you know.
No, he's a nice guy.
I'm just but you know, i'm exaggerating but you know how dads are, you know.
So he says to his father look.
You don't do that.
That's disrespectful.
Uh, very disrespectful.
Uh for many years I have been serving you and I have never collected a command of yours.
And yet you have never given me a kid that I may be married with my friends.
Who does he represent?
The israel.
The jews.
I've always kept your commandments.
I've always done everything and what have you given me?
Nothing.
And the pagans the gentiles.
These unbelievers.
Are you saying you're gonna take care of them?
That's what's going on here, right?
Nick i've never neglected a command of yours and yet you have never given me a kid that I might be married with my friends.
So now the eldest son gives two complaints.
One about his father and one about his brother.
Look how bad they are.
I've done look how good I am and he look at you your father.
You haven't even done this for me and my brother.
He's done the game.
But the son is arrogant, isn't he.
He doesn't even recognize his own arrogance.
Now here's something i've always said for years.
Pride and humility are very similar in that.
They both hide themselves in your heart.
And you can't recognize them, but others can.
You can't recognize your own pride very easily, but others can and you can't recognize your own humility very well,
but others can.
Now that's not exactly true, but you get the point.
There's similars there.
All right, that's my wife says you prideful arrogant jerk almost every day five or six times.
Yeah, that's isn't that right, hon?
Everything I said, that's right good smart woman.
Greet the husband especially when i'm insulting myself.
Sure, I understand this.
The son is which son?
The younger part of the son is considered compared to the sinners and
tax collectives.
Yeah, who do they represent it basically the idea is the people of israel versus everybody else.
The people of israel keep all of the Law, they've done everything god wants and yet they don't know
this.
This is a prophetic parable.
The gentiles the unbelievers are going to be rejoiced over when they're found.
Now this is they should already know this because in genesis 12 3 God says to moses in you all the nations
shall be blessed and paul quotes that in galatians 3 8 and calls it the gospel.
So they already should have known that the gentiles are going to be grafted in.
But as is often the case when we keep laws We have we develop our own standard of righteousness based on
what we're able to do then we judge others based on our standard.
That pride is there and We all fall in this area.
We all right, especially some people I know.
Yeah, i'm trying to find figures.
What's that?
I was pointing over there.
Abram oh, I pointed to you.
What?
Um, what was that said?
I said moses what I said.
It's I said thank you for catching that it's abram which abraham but abram you are awesome.
Thanks.
You're listening to people that's good.
Yeah, all right.
So you you just had your one -year anniversary on saturday, right?
Uh Saturday or sunday.
Yeah, yeah, what's that.
We're gonna have to go okay.
Sorry.
I missed it.
I was oh, you're good.
I'm good.
No man's good.
They're so sick of me, you know the scripture response is All right.
Um, yeah, I know I would love to have been there.
It'd been fun all right, um
verse 31.
Oh, wait a minute verse 30, sorry, but when this son of yours come came.
Who has devoured your wealth with harlots you killed a fatted calf for him?
Actually the word, uh Devoured your life tan beyond in the greek means the life you killed the
calf.
To him and not me.
He's really saying a lot more.
Um.
Your wealth harlots kill the fatted calf for him.
He's saying more than what the text really is saying.
He's he's saying This he what he's done Is so bad.
And he's right.
He is right.
It is so bad.
And one of the reasons he knows it is because there is a standard that he's been keeping righteous standard.
And he has become unfortunately prideful in that.
Now we fall in our strengths as well as our weaknesses.
It's always something to remember.
We fall in our strengths, you know, I know a lot of stuff.
It's always been been a problem for me not to get prideful.
First corinthians 8 1 says, you know pride, uh puffs up.
Right, but love edifies and we have to be careful.
We don't fall in our strengths as well as our weaknesses.
And that's just what it is, you know, whatever strength you have can become a weakness.
And become prideful about it or whatever it might be.
The father said in verse 31 my child which is uh Uh.
A term of endearment you have always been with me and all that is mine is yours.
But we had to be merry and rejoice for this brother of yours.
What's interesting?
Was dead and has begun to live and was lost and has been found so what's interesting
Uh, he says my child technon, which is a word of endearment.
And it's like saying, you know little child a little one a cutie pie, you know.
Technon is a is a is kind of a term of endearment.
He says all that I have is yours.
He wasn't mad at him either.
That's really interesting because that shouldn't the father be mad at all of them.
Of course, he should be.
And yet he's very humble very giving.
What I like is that this parable sets itself against the culture of the time.
God is not culturally based.
He's independent of culture and he sets cultures straight.
That's important here to understand now.
There are two types of sinners.
The honest manifested one the younger son and the hypocritical elder son.
There's two types of repentance sincere and pharisaical.
The younger son initial repentance doesn't seem to be sincere because it's motivated from hunger and.
Later, he had openly admits his sin.
The brother Is anchored in self -righteousness his repentance is not here because really there isn't any
real repentance.
He doesn't have to repent because he's been so good.
This is humanism.
Humanism is in the church alive and well that the man is the standard of righteousness and truth.
But here what we're learning in this parable is that god's great love extends to all people all kinds of people
all the sinners.
The hypocrites jews and gentiles and it's found in the love of jesus christ
so.
It's a really good parable it has a lot of insights and I'm gonna teach
you a little bit of a concept.
You know what chiasm is right chiastic structure.
Okay.
So a chiastic structures is a mnemonic device from remembering.
And I can pass this around so you guys can see it.
The prodigal son.
How it works.
Okay, let me give you an example.
Matthew 7 he who asks he who seeks he who knocks so it goes like this look in this way.
Ask seek knock it just happens to be ask ask seek knock.
So it goes ask who he who asks he who seeks he who knocks for he who asks.
If you ask this net if you seek if you knock for he who asked for he who seeks where he who knocks it
goes.
Ask ask.
That's a type of a of a chiastic structure.
And sometimes you have what?
Structures that are this way.
For example, the son is lost the son is found.
Goods waste on an extravagant living goods used in joyful celebration.
Everything is lost.
Everything is gained.
You'll see what i'm saying here in a sec the great sin the great repentance.
Total rejection total acceptance a change of mind and initial repentance.
And so we see the structure.
Here and this is a one of the types of chiastic structure that occur in the bible.
And sometimes what i'll do.
If I want to interpret something and i'm having trouble with something I will look for chiastic structures.
I'll look for to see something because you can have a structure.
That's a step.
They have different kinds there are people who study this stuff.
And then there's that kind of a structure and it's a center point is the main point.
So it'll enter in and leave the same way it came in except in reverse order.
You know, I got food.
I went to the store I I won a million dollars and I was happy and then I lost a million dollars.
I went to the store and I didn't have any food.
You know, it comes and goes in the same way.
It's that kind of a thing.
And so this was it's called chiasm ch i a s m.
And it's a chiastic structure.
Now just so you guys know if anybody wants to know this I highly recommend that you get the book through poet.
I'll be through peasant eyes or poet and peasant and through peasant eyes.
It's a two volume set and uh I can't remember the name of the guy.
Oh Kenneth bailey.
I got this information from him.
And what he did was he went over he's a scholar and went over to the culture of the time and asked questions.
What would you do with this?
What would you do with that?
Because the culture hasn't changed.
They still use mules.
They still are agrarian.
They still this and still that.
And plus some ancient writings some other stuff and uh, it just taught me a great deal.
And so that's the prodigal son.
Interesting.
Cool.
Now we're going to save the my opinion the best for the last.
Which is the woman who let her hair down in the pharisee's house.
Oh Wow it's my.
Except for the stuff that christ does it's my favorite story in the entire bible.
And i'll explain why later we get to it now what we can do.
I'll let you guys Choose what we do next the unjust steward or the good
samaritan.
Good samaritan.
Okay the good samaritan samaritans were half breeds between the jews and
the samaritans who had been uh, Captured or uh in samaria the babylonian the
captivity they were half breeds and they were keeping the law.
But they were not full -fledged jews.
The jews wouldn't allow them to be considered full -fledged jews so.
They were looked down upon they were uh ridiculed.
Now if you go to luke 10 25.
The question That is asked that begins this.
What must I do to to get eternal life and jesus likes to speak in parables.
Now just so you guys know Jesus tells us why he speaks in parables in mark 10 or excuse me mark
4 10 through 12.
He speaks in parables so people will not be saved.
That's mark 4 10 through 12.
That's another topic.
Behold a certain lawyer stood up and put him to the test saying teacher.
What shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Now a lawyer is an expert in the law of moses.
Now think about that he's an expert.
And he said to jesus what I do to inherit eternal life.
Do you think it was an honest inquiry?
No.
Probably not.
But let's think a little bit because it might have been because maybe he was hearing jesus.
Do stuff and maybe seeing a few miracles.
He's going.
What do I do to inherit eternal life?
It's a possibility.
But I would assume for the most part.
So The lawyer was often called upon to settle legal disputes because he knew the law.
Now it says uh.
That he stood up and standing up is a social Courtesy and a greeting of respect.
Yet in his heart he probably was thinking to uh to test jesus.
And jesus said to him what is written in the law?
How does it read to you?
Now, how would he know this man was a lawyer because of their dress?
Well, they would dress.
Pharisees had a certain way of dressing.
Lawyers had a certain way of dressing and uh.
Plus jesus being in being god in flesh, you know.
No, so the the the uh, the lawyer asks what he knows about best
the law.
He knows that keeping the law is uh an appropriate answer right.
And notice what this man says.
This is a witnessing technique kind of a thing I do with cults sometimes.
And people who say like for example today after the after show to the radio, uh, you can lose your salvation.
Well, what do you gotta do to keep it then?
Because that means you're keeping it by what you do if I ask according to what they hold.
Um, but jesus says what is written in your law or excuse me?
What is written in the law?
How does it not read to you?
And he answered verse 27 You shall love the lord your god with all your heart with all your soul with all your strength and with all your mind.
And your neighbors yourself.
Now he's quoting.
Um, deuteronomy 6 5 and uh so.
What's interesting is that the lawyer is quoting issue of love not necessary legality.
And jesus said to him.
Uh, you've answered correctly do this and you'll live.
But wishing to justify himself.
He said to jesus and who is my neighbor?
You know.
Some people just don't know when to shut up you know and uh
I think I would have been a lawyer.
I think i'd have been there.
I think you know my pride selfishness arrogance stupidity.
Uh, I would have been happy to go test jesus.
Oh I'm so glad jesus is merciful.
I am so glad.
You know, he put me here now.
I don't know what i've been back there, but.
Okay um.
And jesus replied a certain man was going down from jerusalem to jericho.
And he fell among robbers and they stripped him and beat him and went off leaving him half dead.
Now there's a road that goes down from jerusalem to jericho.
It's 17 miles long.
It's a real road.
And it's a hazardous road because thieves and robbers would often wait and people would go there and they'd get in
trouble and you know.
And so this man In the story is stripped and
unconscious.
Why is that important.
Because then you don't know where he's from.
You can't tell by his accent and you can't tell by his clothing.
So you don't know who this guy is he could be anybody.
He could be a pharisee.
He could be a samaritan.
He could be a A lowly servant slave escaped.
You don't know right.
What's that.
No, no, no, um, there were there are variations just like there are variations today.
And you know, we this race crap that's going on now.
That wasn't an issue there you never uh find that as an issue in the bible.
Okay, so um.
So the audience is probably going to assume That he's jewish.
Because we tend to kind of you know, jesus is a blonde haired black caucasian surfer dude.
That's what we white people think right and i've seen black jesus as i've seen brown jesus.
I've seen asian jesus.
We tend to think of people in our own terms.
Right or wrong whatever just what it is.
That's okay.
They're probably thinking that this guy is a jew and uh.
So in his half dead state, of course, he's going to be unconscious.
So he can't be identified.
All right, and by chance a certain priest was going down on that road and when he saw him he passed
on the other side.
It's pretty supposed to be a a good guy.
Why is he passing the other side?
Because If the man's dead and the priest is coming down from doing his his
duty at the temple.
That's what a priest did he's coming down the road.
Doing his duty having done it if he passes within so many feet of a corpse.
He's got to return and go back up and go through a cleansing ritual.
And that would be humiliating he couldn't even that so he's too you know, you know, sorry I can't come next to
this person.
He might be dead.
I can't get involved.
Yeah now.
Most probably the priest did not see what happened because this route this road, you know winds and 17 miles is a long place.
But he could probably tell the man's wounded and maybe the man was still breathing.
Maybe he knew we don't know but these kind of things are always you wonder what's he done?
You know, what does he know?
So they're supposed to be ritually clean and uh.
And he wouldn't want to go back and do all the sacrifices and stuff like that and be embarrassed.
Okay 32 and likewise a levite also when he came to the place and saw him pass by the other side.
So, uh.
Then the levi was a lower, uh social class than the priest but he also.
Uh, he might have seen the priest possibly pass the other side.
Well, if he's gonna pass the other side i'm gonna pass on the other side.
That's a possibility.
Uh, we don't know but if that is something that was would be in the mind of this fictitious Person the
lesson one of the lessons here to learn is just because someone else does something doesn't mean you should or shouldn't.
They'll be careful here but a certain samaritan, oh
Scumbag samaritan, can you imagine when he said this the jews there be going?
Samaritans.
A samaritan who was on a journey came upon him and when he saw him he felt compassion.
Wait a minute the jews and the priest the levite supposed to be feeling compassion.
Not this dirty scummy samaritan so they were the Mixed race between the jews of
the captivity and the samaritan people long ago.
There was a great deal of um.
Of animosity between them.
According to the mishnah.
It's a writing of ancient jewish stuff.
He that eats the bread of the samaritans is like one that eats the flesh of swine mishnah sheba
8 10.
So it's the oral traditions that developed about the law.
The samaritan would not be from that area.
So this is what's interesting because he wouldn't be in that area.
The man there Wouldn't really qualify as his neighbor.
And he came to him and bandaged up his wounds pouring oil and wine on them.
And he put him put him on his own beast and brought him to an inn and took care of him.
The samaritan risks defilement where the priest and the levite would not.
He approaches an unidentifiable man and helps him.
He pours oil on him.
Which on the high altar was offered before god.
The priest and the levite had failed to do their their duty.
Now we got to talk about something called blood revenge.
You've heard this thing called eye for an eye tooth for tooth.
It's because that's called the apoditic law.
Now the reason eye for an eye tooth for tooth was given was declared was because of blood revenge
so Matt and I i'm going to use you because you're a newbie here Matt and I
get an argument, right?
And matt breaks my arm.
Okay, and i'm out of commission.
So my brothers go they break his legs.
His brothers come and kill one of my brothers now.
The rest of the family comes over and we got a full blood full -blown war, right?
So, uh, the law was an eye for an eye tooth for tooth just keep it simple and you stop called blood revenge.
Now what really happened matt and I would go get coffee together and we talked a witness to somebody because.
Obviously anybody with that name is good guy.
It's obvious just.
Yes, so If this
now the samaritan is already hated by the jews and he's in the jewish area.
Because of the road from jericho down i've been to jericho and jerusalem.
And I don't know what road they're talking about.
But uh.
There we go and so he's in the jewish area, so he's Taking
a bit of a risk anyway now what would happen if
The this man was a jew this unconscious guy was a jew who died in the hands
of a samaritan.
They would probably kill him go after him.
Well, no i've taken care of him.
Sure.
You were right this kind of attitude is the samaritan risking his life.
Yeah, he is More so.
This is what's interesting.
He's risking his life for somebody else.
He doesn't even know Doesn't even know him and he's risking his life
and he says in verse 35.
The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said take care of him.
And whatever more you spend when I return I will repay you.
Okay, so let's say this he goes away.
And he's gonna come back in two weeks.
Let's say okay and the man Is
unconscious and his brothers are looking family's looking for him and they find him and he's dead.
And that that again those wounds are too big and they said who did this?
I don't know but a samaritan brought him in.
And he's coming back.
They're gonna lie in wait right.
And if you get enough people together to act stupid and they're gonna listen not with a dirty filthy samaritan.
And The samaritan had no way of knowing if he's gonna get any of his money back from this guy.
So he's risking his own life.
He's taking care of him doesn't know if he's gonna be returned in the value.
Now who's the good person here the samaritan?
Who are the bad people the levites and the.
Yeah, and the priest now in the pair of the prodigal son the jews are again the bad guys.
Jesus is a jew.
So the bad guys rob him leave him dying and abandon him.
The samaritan pays for him leaves him cared for and promises to return.
Rob they rob him leave him.
Leave him dying.
Abandon him but the samaritan pays for him instead of robbing him.
Leaves him cared for to just leave him alone and promises to return instead of abandoning him the opposite.
So the the robbers hurt the man by violence the priest and the levite by neglect.
All three are guilty.
This is important at james 4 7.
To the one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it to him.
It is sin.
Now, I don't like that verse.
There's lots of verses in the bible.
I'm not fond of there's several.
You know love your wife as christ.
Love the church.
Um, you know things like that, you know be humble.
There's some things i'm not really, you know fond of like colossians chapter 3 1 through 17 is not
my favorite chapter in the bible part of the chapter because when I read it I see how much I fail
in so many areas.
So I said to people whatever you do do not read colossian 3 1 through 17.
Don't read that.
Do not read colossian 3 1 through 17 and um
I don't like james 4 7.
Because there's plenty of times in my life.
I know the right thing to do and i'm not doing it.
And it's just a fact doesn't mean it's okay.
I'm not excusing it.
But you know, it's just.
You know, all of us are guilty except for jake.
He's pretty good.
He's humble guy.
Is that right?
He's a pretty good guy most of the time.
You get a lot of work to do.
I'm only good about 25 percent.
He's only good 25 percent of the time.
Oh you are that's what he was saying.
Okay, i'm oh man, oh I
married them just so you guys know.
So, uh, all right.
I take shots at everybody except I very rarely take a shot at a girl very rarely, but I know she's a good girl.
What's that no one's good no one's good.
What does it say that romans 3 10 3 12.
Oh, she is awesome.
Um, I forgot where 14 combined 14 and 53
53, I think it is.
Look at you guys.
Good good my grasshoppers.
Older people will know what that means.
Yeah from kung fu to okay.
The old series kung fu 60 verse 63, which of these do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who felled the robbers?
Now jesus refused to define what a neighbor was instead he asks a question uh.
And expects an answer.
He's showing the love of god.
He's showing all this stuff and the man said The guy goes well the one who showed mercy towards him and jesus said well
go and do the same thing.
That would hurt you mean Help people risk my life for
them.
You mean love them.
Are you kidding?
I mean, that's a scummy person over there.
I can't be loving to that person.
That's not what i'm i'm gonna do.
That's what jesus does to us.
You know, he's so perfect.
He's so good.
He has this way of exposing ourselves to ourselves, which is why I don't like colossus 3 1 through 17.
Because when I read through those verses, I go, you know, ouch ouch ouch and.
Because truth has that that habit that ability to pierce us.
And to teach us and expose ourselves to ourselves.
But that can only be done in the light of christ grace and his truth and what he has done.
And i'm grateful.
So grateful for his salvation for his kindness.
So this lawyer begins with a question what must I do to inherit eternal life.
Uh, the conclusion is answered in what must be done then now remember though there's more to this we haven't gotten into
But in deuteronomy 27 26, it says that you got to keep all of the law.
And paul references that in galatians 3 10.
You're to keep all the law.
You don't stumble at one point james 2 10.
If you do you're guilty.
So if you're going to love your neighbor.
Then you better do it perfectly.
Now in romans 3 28, it says we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Now jesus says the greatest Commandment is love god.
And the second is love your neighbor.
Matthew 22 37 39.
So the two greatest commandments love god and love your neighbor and paul just as inspired as jesus Says
that we're justified without the works of the law that were justified before god without loving god and without loving our neighbor, right?
That's right because loving god and loving your neighbor is the law.
Wait a minute matter.
You said we shouldn't love god.
I didn't say that.
I'm saying that it's not our love of god and our love of our neighbor that gets us saved.
Or keeps us saved.
It's not those laws that Make us, right.
But We're not saved with that we're saved in spite of our failure to love god
and love our neighbor.
Because that's a standard.
And so it's not by the works of the law that we're justified but by grace.
That's how it has to be understood.
And it's an important lesson for under a lesson for us to understand about god's great grace to us.
That even the faith that we have is granted to us.
Philippians 1 29.
And our believing is the work of god.
John 6 28 29.
Our repentance is granted by god.
Second.
Timothy 2 25 We're caused to be born again.
First.
Peter 1 3 born again, not of our own will.
John 1 13 This is the work of god.
And this is why we're saved because he appointed us to eternal life.
Acts 13 48.
And he uh in the sun chose us for salvation that's Ephesians 1 4 in cross
reference.
It was second.
Thessalonians 2 13 There's verses that talk about god's work and he loved us
even though He knows us.
You know, I look at my own heart and I see my wickedness.
I recognize my impurity my failures.
And I can't help but wonder sometimes why would god save someone like me?
Well, it's because of nothing in me.
And everything in him.
And that's it.
God didn't look into the future to recognize I can do something with this guy or her or her.
It's not like that.
That's favoritism.
It's rejected by james 2 2 through 4.
No, god loves us.
From forever ago because of what's in him.
And that's just to me that is so comforting it's.
And I you know, i've said this before.
I remember hearing a preacher once say I'm, glad god predestined me from the foundation of the world because if you look at me
now, he wouldn't pick me.
And I just love that statement, you know, it's an admission of our failure and our depravity.
In fact on monday night i'm debating total depravity with a church of christ guy.
Is that what.
The truth of the gospel what's that.
Marlon.
No, wait, I don't.
Oh, you know, uh, i'm actually To that so I saw you on there already.
Yeah aka richardson.
What is that monday's?
7 p .m. This local time.
So i'll be debating and I guess i'll do the opening.
Uh is total depravity biblical and i'm going to say yes.
I'm gonna define what it is and then use the scriptures to show it and then you know.
He's gonna just have to go full pelagian.
You know how the saying goes whatever you do don't go full pelagian.
That's from a movie.
Yeah, you remember right there.
Don't go full pelagian.
We understand That it's through christ and all these things and you still need
to do these things.
I'm always kind of wanting to know what's the effect.
How people play out when they don't?
Really understand that concept.
Have you seen that play out in various ways?
Like let's say they are believers.
They just haven't really.
Oh, absolutely.
Drop that concept.
Absolutely Yeah.
Absolutely.
People are saving different levels of awareness and understanding.
In fact yours truly here Got saved and did not know for two
years that jesus rose from the dead in the same body he died in.
It was never taught to me.
And I was in class with jerry and marion bodine who worked with walter martin in the christian research institute
Across the street from disneyland at merrill, uh melody land in anaheim Anaheim california going through classes
on mormonism and jehovah's witnesses.
I remember I remember this.
And I said jesus rose from the dead the same body.
He died in and she looked At me and said how could you be a christian and not know that.
I said, I don't know.
No one taught me that.
She paused she stared she goes.
She went to the scriptures and showed me and I said, okay so people can be uh saved in different
levels of ignorance, right.
And that's it and.
And uh god doesn't uh save us.
Uh, it's not doctrinal regeneration.
You know, but uh, certainly yeah, so it's more of a question that's like
Is there any indication where you see that actually play out where they don't even know that or the level of ignorance in which they
have and you see it play out.
It's like I think that's why you're kind of doing or trying to lift your Faith
that way.
And it's actually showing you your contradiction.
Yes, armenians do it.
I don't know what you guys are but armenians do it all the time.
Okay, all the time.
And there are churches, uh that will teach Things of self -righteousness that you've got to do
in order to kind of keep yourself right with god.
And they have a profound lack of understanding of biblical theology in that respect.
And so absolutely it does work in different degrees and different levels in different areas.
Absolutely Yeah, that's right.
Now we're going to do the unjust steward Whether you like it or not.
You know, sorry the unjust steward.
And then He basically tells them what you owe.
Yeah, he lies about how much is owed and he's praised.
Why would he be praised?
Yeah, why would he be praised.
I'm gonna go through and after we're done you're gonna go now.
I understand the parable what's going on.
Yeah the unjust steward.
This is in luke 16 1 through 8.
Last one there is a semi -pelagian armenian with a pre -millennial bent of dispensationalism.
I'll leave now.
Someone what if you should have said good everyone will be like me then or that person or whatever
theological humor.
What you're smiling at me like.
What's that Luke.
Yeah, because the parables are at more out of luke.
Mm -hmm.
I love luke.
Do you know he wrote most of the the bible?
Or the new testament.
Did you know that luke wrote most of the new testament?
He has more words written by luke than any other author in the entire new testament.
He wrote luke and acts.
And that's more volume, you know, okay.
That covers more than all the epistles.
No, no.
No, there's more numbers of words just the number count.
A proportion like paul I think a second or maybe matthew is or something like that as far as who wrote the most
that's all Physical words now.
He was also saying to the disciples.
There was a certain rich man who had a steward.
And and the steward was reported to him as squandering his possessions.
All right now, um.
Let's see, let's get ahead of myself here.
Let's see.
Okay, i'll do it this way, all right.
Now, uh, so someone apparently cared enough to let the the landowner.
Know what was going on?
Hey, I think you gotta check this guy right and uh.
Verse two when he called him the landowner called him and said to him.
What is this I hear about you?
Give an account of your stewardship for you can no longer be steward.
I want to hear.
I want to see the facts.
Let's bring the paperwork bring the numbers.
Let's see what's going on.
I've been hearing some bad stuff now.
In a good culture and a good thing.
He's not going to do this off just one person's word.
There's going to be more other witnesses by two witnesses of the thing established.
So he's probably hearing, you know hearing this but at any rate doesn't matter.
What does I hear about you now?
He's going to check it out.
I want to hear let's give a count.
And uh, so he doesn't frighten to.
I mean doesn't excuse me say too much.
Uh, the servant doesn't say too much.
Uh landlord doesn't say too much or just kind of let's just check it out verse three.
The steward said to himself.
What shall I do since my master is taking the stewardship away from me?
I'm, not strong enough to dig.
I'm not i'm ashamed to beg.
Now the steward's got to remain silent.
Because he can't fess up.
Because he'll get kicked out right there.
So he's he's biding his time.
He's got I got a little bit of time left.
Because I got to get the paperwork, you know.
And maybe it'll take me a day or two or three or four fine and bring it back.
I got some time.
He's a smart man.
Okay, he doesn't say too much.
And he doesn't defend himself.
Okay, he's just.
He's a he's a conniver.
So by not defending himself in that culture, basically what he's doing is admitting his is his
guilt.
Because you're supposed to defend you.
I never would do that.
He's just silent.
But now what am I going to do?
Okay, that's like, you know, you say your kid.
Did you do such a touch?
So he's going to cover himself.
Now don't think that the steward's fired now or it might be later, but that's okay.
Verse four.
I know what i'll do.
So that when i'm removed from the stewardship, he knows because he is unrighteous.
He's going to be removed.
That they will receive me into their homes uh.
And he summoned each one of his master's debtors and he began saying to them the first how much do you owe.
He doesn't say in the story.
Hello, my friend.
How are you doing the proper greetings and everything else sit down?
Let's talk about your family.
Oh, by the way, we've got a little business to talk about.
He goes.
How much do you owe?
The guy's in a hurry.
He's getting it done and the land the steward, uh.
The uh debtor Said well 100 measures of oil and he said take your bill sit down and quickly
write 50.
Now let's stop for a minute and talk about this.
Who does the steward represent?
I mean, I don't mean represent as in the devil or whatever.
I mean who in the story who's he representing?
The landowner.
So the steward is the one who represents the will of the landowner.
Do the debtors the workers of the land know?
That this steward's a bad guy, but I don't know.
So what are they gonna think?
When he says how much do you owe 100 right 50?
What are they gonna think?
Generosity of who the landowner.
Now remember how we talked earlier about the reputation of a people the reputation of of
individuals the reputation of a town.
Very serious.
We don't really have that here.
But you gotta just just trust me on this it was very very important back then.
Very important.
This is going to play into effect with the land owner.
Because what this man is doing is saying i'm gonna get ingratiated with these
guys.
So that if something bad happens I can Go into their houses.
Maybe be taken care.
Maybe they'll give me a break on something.
Who knows?
And uh If they knew however that the
steward had been in had been fired or was about to be fired.
They wouldn't agree to this.
So they're ignorant.
Okay, they don't know what's going on.
They think it's great and so, uh.
He does, you know, hurry up do it before the basically it's hurry up go to matter to find out about this.
He said to another and how much do you owe and he said a hundred measures of wheat and he said take your bill.
And write 80.
Now again, what's.
What's this guy thinking the wheat.
Owing dude, he's gonna be going.
This guy's great.
The landowner's great.
This is great.
I wasn't thinking this.
I didn't expect this.
He's coming over.
Now What's gonna happen to the people.
What are they going to do to people whose bills are cut down drastically out of nowhere?
What are they going to do?
What won't you do.
Talking about how great the master is.
How great the master is you're gonna talk great things about him, right?
You're gonna say man.
You already did if someone came to you and said, uh, How much you owe your car?
Well, I owe 12 000.
I'll tell you what you write a check for a thousand right now and it's paid off.
You know, what are you gonna do keep it to yourself?
No, man.
Did you hear what?
Yeah, yeah and here's his phone number.
Call him up see what happens um.
So Reductions of rent were generally due or reductions of payment requirements were usually due during famines
and difficult times when the master knew.
Look, they can't do it.
Let's be fair.
They were pretty generous.
But there's nothing like that mentioned here.
This is just out of the blue kindness now that means that the
renters Are going to be praising the landowners and most probably
Probably would have a celebration of some sort.
To have a celebration, uh.
You may or may not have a celebration doesn't say but let's assume that at least one of them did.
He's going to have his friends over they're going to cook they're going to you know, do everything because the word's going to get around.
And so the community now is going to hear about this.
Thinking the landowner is a totally cool guy.
Now the landowner finds out about this.
What's he going to do.
He can't back out if he backs out.
He's gonna look bad and maybe they might say well he decided to do this.
And then reneged and he's blaming the steward.
So the landowner's kind of stuck.
So the master praised the unrighteous steward because he had acted shrewdly for the sons of this age are more shrewd
In relation to their own kind than the sons of light.
Now, wait a minute.
It's verse eight.
He's praised now think about this.
This man knows that.
He's going to be in trouble.
So let's Look at eschatology here a little bit.
This is eschatological end times ish.
Because jesus says sons of this age.
Of these are like two ages this age and age to come.
The master praised the unrighteous steward because he had acted shrewdly in what sense?
To make sure that where he was going to end up was going to be okay.
And who was he counting on for big good.
The landowner the master he's counting on the goodness of the of the master because the master could have said no.
He did this he lied pay me everything you owe.
That's going to really cause downplay if he's stubborn and didn't care about anybody.
But he does care does care about his reputation does care about everything and so he goes along with it and that's how it
works.
And he's praised.
It's not praised that the steward was evil, but his shrewdness to keep him out of the
judgment to come.
That's really what this is about.
He says the sons of this age are more shrewd in relation to their own than the sons of light.
He's talking about the jews.
And he's talking about others but the sons of light supposed to know.
The light of god the word because your words a lamp to my feet the psalmist says.
The sons of light these jewish people you're supposed to know.
And you're not being as shrewd as this wicked person was to be um saved
and what this is.
Is he's jesus is not praising the the dishonesty.
But the ability of the steward to recognize the generosity of his of his master to see what's coming.
And use what he had to have to get something greater self -preservation.
Damnation is so severe.
You better do whatever you can right now to make sure you're saved.
That's how severe it is.
That even this unrighteous steward is praised because what he's doing is guarding himself for the future.
Smart men and that's what's being praised about the future's coming.
Are you gonna be smart about it?
You're gonna be weak about it.
You're gonna trust in christ or not.
That's the whole idea.
That's what's going on.
So god is representative of the master because the master represents god.
And he's a god of judgment and mercy and because of his evil the steward is caught in the coming crisis
and the excuses will uh.
Won't do anything.
Yes, but yes, but there's no nothing to be said.
He's guilty.
His only option is to entrust everything to the unfailing mercy of his generous master.
And that's the shrewdness.
Have confidence in the master that the master will accept the price.
That has been levied for his own deliverance.
That's why the parable the unrighteous steward is a great parable.
It's actually eschatological and and and satirical salvation and end time stuff
and so.
The steward was vindicated because he trusted in the generosity of the master not because of his dishonesty, okay
interesting.
Sure him knowing who the master is.
Yep, and how good he was.
From that he's he's more dependent upon him regardless
of his mistakes.
And.
From that he was kept in them.
Yep.
It's cool, isn't it?
All right now what we're going to do is go to.
I think it's uh, luke 7.
That's part of what jesus says.
He says use even what you have now, even if it's not that great to get yourself right and make it unrighteous ma 'am.
And he's not saying you buy your way into heaven, but he's showing the severity of the necessity if you
barely make it in.
You know, you've connived and you got in somehow.
Good for you.
That's how serious judgment is.
It's coming.
That's the idea.
Now, I believe it is.
Uh Luke 7 36
this is.
What am I this is one of my favorite areas of scripture.
It is and I have preached this several times.
And when I have preached it i've actually, uh Held back tears a couple times.
I've lost it in the pulpit.
Because you understand what's going on here.
It is powerful.
It really is but um.
All right, so this is uh, 7 36 Now
one of the pharisees Requesting was requesting him to dine with him and he entered the
pharisee's house and reclined at the table.
Okay now a pharisee Was a religious leader
one of the individuals that jesus himself had been speaking against on various occasions.
The people were following jesus and they knew him to be a teacher.
Now they remember that there's the woman who was caught.
I mean who uh had an issue of blood.
Those those years and she reached through the crowd risking herself because she was
defiled.
Issue of blood and she touched the hem of jesus garment.
And she's she's healed the hem was where the talit and the tzitzit would have been which is the
cordage.
Tied in a symbol symbolic representation of the law.
613 knots.
I think it was.
But it was.
I don't remember exactly but it's that's what it was.
And she touched that hem from that we can conclude that he was wearing the proper attire of a teacher.
But he knew he was a teacher.
And others knew he was a teacher and here come the pharisees who are teachers.
This town isn't big enough for the both of us, you know to do the whistle.
You guys with the you know, old testament new testament, you know, it's just the kind of thing going on here.
All right, and he says.
The pharisee says to jesus.
Come eat.
Now let's put a little bit more on this.
Think about this.
Is jesus alone walking alone?
Or people following him.
Okay, they're following him.
Do people follow the pharisees.
Yeah, they did.
And the pharisees would often pray out loud.
They would stop in public and pray so that people would learn how to pray properly.
They were so helpful.
Come follow me.
I'll tell you what to do.
Let's come this way.
Okay, ready?
Watch this.
And so jesus would pray too and he would heal people and just so we got these groups of people.
They're following the pharisee and jesus.
And They're meeting.
Oh, what's gonna gonna who's gonna, you know swing first and the pharisee says.
You want to come eat at my house?
Remember this is a severe point of fellowship.
This is important.
We're going to share food together.
Okay, what's going to happen to the people around them they're going to go.
Oh, this is going to be good.
Hey, bob frank.
Did you hear about this?
Hey, then bob frank would tell so hey.
You could Take a meet over at pharisee's house simon's house.
What's going to happen at simon's house?
A bunch of people are going to show up.
It's going to happen right now.
Remember there weren't any screen doors and sliding patio doors like we have here.
It was open, you know, they had these windows here like this and it'd be a a crinky old, you know.
Shutter thing that bugs could still get through and you'd open it up and um and to imagine this room here
and in the middle is a rug and uh, Raised kind of a rug kind of a thing.
With maybe a really low table, maybe not but low table and there were servants of the pharisee's house
and uh.
The pharisees would often let people follow them.
And have meetings when the pharisees would come into people's houses or each other's houses they would let people come in and stand on the side
of the of the walls.
And outside men would be on the inside.
Generally women would be on the outside women.
Sorry outside.
For one reason was propriety.
You don't want to mingle and be rubbing up against women.
Okay, you don't do that kind of a thing because it'll be kind of crowded.
Women were on the outside and some men would be too.
You know, there was some propriety there.
But for the most part men would be lined up on the inside because jesus and the pharisee are going to have dinner.
Oh, it's going to be good.
We know they're going to go at it.
It's going to happen, you know, all right.
All right with me.
And uh.
And he entered the pharisee's house and declined at the table.
Now, okay, let's do this stuff getting misty, right?
There was a woman in the city who was a sinner.
A woman.
Now women women.
She'd be making sandwiches being at home woman.
Not being a prostitute.
You're not really regarded that well.
He's a sinner.
We know that she probably was a prostitute.
I'll get to that later.
And when she had learned that he was reclining at the table in the pharisee's house, she brought an alabaster violet
perfume.
Some commentators think that this was what she did for her business.
Because they didn't have running water baths and stuff.
They would anoint themselves with something smell good for their prostitution.
That's conjecture, but it makes sense.
Oh, man what she did.
And standing behind him at his feet weeping.
She began to wet his feet with her tears.
And kept wiping them with the hair of her head.
And kissing his feet and anointing them with the perfume
that to me is tremendous.
To be honest, you don't see any man do that.
This is an incredible act of worship an adoration.
She really understood who jesus was.
She's risking everything.
Now, let's get the scene the scene, right?
Most probably the place is packed with people within a certain distance.
There's gonna be clear a clearance.
Jesus is on his left arm.
Feet away from the table because his feet are dirty the pharisee will be on his left arm feet away from the table.
His feet will be clean.
Because his servant has already cleaned his feet.
The people will be around the room.
And It you know, there's probably going to be some bo and stuff like that and that's just what it was back then.
And this woman comes into this house the
house of a pharisee a woman.
She's risking herself.
And she's an unclean woman.
And she comes into this this house.
That means she had to kind of enter.
Now what I mean by that is If you hear a sound behind you tend to you know, you look
you see this there she comes this unclean woman.
What are you going to do as a jewish man?
You don't want to touch her.
You'll be defiled.
You could step away and she keeps coming in.
It could be that someone could strike her.
Because she should not go into a holy man's house.
But she comes in
and wiping His feet with her hair in the culture.
A wife could be divorced.
For letting her hair down in public.
Because it was a sensuous thing there and you you kept your your hair
up and covered and You only let your hair exposed and let it down.
To your husband and maybe your family and your children in the house.
So imagine the people on the side of the walls watching the people in the windows this filthy
vile sinning woman comes in and she sees.
That his feet have not been cleansed and he's not been anointed with oil because he talked about this later.
He sees the offense to jesus.
Undoubtedly.
She's heard him.
She's already knows who he is.
And she comes in and lets her hair down in public.
You know fred sanford i'm coming home, honey.
Grabbed his his uh his heart, you know, i'm coming home.
You know, it's come you have a heart attack um.
They would have been appalled by her presence and her actions.
And now of all things she's kissing jesus feet and the feet were
filthy.
And in that culture, there's a a story.
Even I think the past within the past 50 years or something like that 60 70 years.
There's an account of uh of a westerner.
Who was over in the area one of these towns whatever?
And he had a friend who's a native of the area not a native but a native, you know, and you know and
uh.
They were a bunch of men were sleeping in a common room, which is not uncommon.
And he wanted to get his attention.
Because they were separated a little bit so he took his shoe off and just tossed it at him wake him up.
They almost killed him for that in that culture his friend had to intervene to prevent
them from beating the Crap out of him because it was such an insult to take your shoe off and throw it at somebody
a profound insult.
And he didn't know and so the guy had to come in and he basically saved his life.
Now, what does john the baptist say about jesus?
I'm not even worthy to untie his sandal.
The feet were dirty the feet were filthy.
And she's kissing them.
Yeah, she's kissing his feet she knows more than Anybody
else does about him?
Now sure the fair the the disciples knew things about jesus, but she knew something different.
She knew more about him than they did.
Why aren't they defending jesus why aren't they Saying hey, why don't you anoint us, you know had to give him a kiss and
and we'll get to this.
And and his feet still dirty.
Why are you are you so disrespectful?
The men aren't doing things.
It's often the case that men don't do anything and the women are the ones who get to it.
After the resurrection of christ the men are hiding and the women are out there.
They're going to anoint the body and they're they come and say hey he's risen and they don't believe him.
The women often got it right about christ before the men did.
Why because well, you know, they're more sensitive in some other areas.
And men are a little hard -headed.
And that's a disadvantage but on the other hand is it comes of great advantage when it comes down to Getting getting on
shipwrecks and going to get beaten and you're standing for the lord, you know, that's that's more the man's job.
So there's not one's better than another.
It's just that you know, sometimes women in the bible just are not really considered that Monumentous.
This is incredible as far as i'm concerned her insight her her risk
her the beauty.
Of her worship and adoration of jesus.
It's just incredible.
It is.
She is wetting his feet with her tears and kept wiping them with the hair of her head and kissing his feet.
And anointing them with perfume.
Could you imagine her?
You imagine this is on film.
They get the great actress and she's weeping and snot's dripping and she's crying.
She's kissing filthy feet taking her hair and wiping them taking oil and doing all this to jesus.
What does she know about him?
What's in her heart that she would do this?
She's already broken.
And she most probably is already quite saved at this point.
Wow, this is such a and it is In my mind is such an incredibly beautiful act.
It it humbles me.
Would I do that?
I don't know.
But she did.
It was tremendous.
It really seriously is All right now
in verse 39.
Now when the pharisee who had invited him saw this he said to himself.
To himself that means he's thinking it if this man as jesus were a prophet he would
know who and what.
A sort of person this woman is who was touching him.
That she is a sinner.
If he was really a prophet now, he's judging jesus.
And he's judging her.
This woman's touching you if you're really a prophet, you know, you don't have anything to do with it.
Get away.
Which one would you be?
Well us men.
Me i'm a pharisee.
I'm, sorry.
I know what I am without christ.
I'm a pharisee.
That's it.
There's nothing good in me period except jesus period.
If this man were a prophet he would know what kind of person she was she was a sinner.
Verse 40.
And jesus answered him wait a minute he's thinking this now jesus answers him.
Okay Simon.
This is a parable coming up.
I have something to say to you and he replied.
Say it teacher.
He's thinking to himself.
He's mocking them in christ, but publicly says say it teacher.
He's a hypocrite.
A money lender had two debtors.
One owed 500 denarii and the other 50.
When they were unable to repay he graciously forgave them both.
So which of them will love them love him more.
Simon answered and said I suppose the one whom he forgave more.
And he said to him You've judged correctly.
Okay, so pretty simple.
You owe a million dollars or you owe 20 bucks and both are forgiven.
Who's going to be more grateful.
That's that's her.
She's obviously a greater sinner Than the pharisee.
And she's showing greater Repentance and greater honor in the forgiveness that she's
receiving in christ.
It's simon the pharisee, okay.
And so she is showing The true depth of
of adoration and dedication.
This is how we should be with jesus.
You know, I don't know how you guys would be and i'm not saying to be mr Humble look at me, but if if you were to suddenly be here
i'm on my face.
You know, that's it and uh.
That's jesus.
He says well you've answered correctly now.
Turning to the woman.
He said to simon I think you have the room tables in the middle
low table six inches high.
That means the woman's at jesus feet.
The pharisee's across the table.
And he turns to the woman and says to the pharisee.
Simon, he turns his back on the pharisee.
He's addressing the woman.
Customarily you kind of you wouldn't talk to a woman and You can get in trouble
particularly a prostitute.
Yet he turns his back on the pharisee to speak to the woman.
Oh.
Can you imagine all the people around the room they're going.
And they're not a minute later and then a minute later.
And then you know, it's gonna be happening constantly, you know.
Turning to you know, he turns to the woman address it, you know looking at her.
Simon.
I got something to tell you.
Okay, it's like that.
Do you see this woman?
Now in polite society you didn't.
You don't rebuke your host.
Right even now you'd be careful.
You see this woman?
I entered your house and you gave me no water for my feet.
But she has wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair.
You gave me no kiss.
But she since the time I came in has not ceased to kiss my feet.
You did not anoint my head with oil, but she anointed my feet with perfume.
For this reason I say to you her sins which are many have been forgiven.
For she loved much, but he was forgiven little loves little.
But he said to her your sins have been forgiven.
Now we keep going here.
So he's disrespecting the pharisee and using
His failure to do what's right.
Exposed by this filthy sinful woman.
Doing what's right.
No judgment from him to her but forgiveness.
Now I relate to that woman not a transgender way with their wolf kick, you know crap.
In the fact of just being a sinner.
Who needs to kiss jesus feet?
Well, he needs to be at his feet.
Just praise him weep before him.
Thank you.
My lord.
And she was doing that I can do this now because I can look back and when I was saved it's
very dramatic salvation.
Anyway, there's a lot of weeping the presence of lord.
I can look back and see this but look at her.
In the midst of this situation in the midst of this culture in the midst of all of this.
What does she do?
She breaks protocol risks herself.
Goes in and does what she had already seen the pharisee failed to do with her lord.
And she took care of it and that man had failed to do what was right.
She took care of it.
Humiliated herself in front of people, but she didn't care.
Because her one concern was jesus.
He's the one who mattered and she did what was right before him.
Now kissing his feet wiping his hair with her hair.
His white people are here and anointing with oil at feet did not save her.
Because these are the actions of someone who's broken her faith and trust is in jesus for what she knew there had been no
atonement yet but yet.
Her sins have been forgiven.
That's a perfect tense.
It's a past action with the effects continuing in the present.
Because she's justified by her faith and trust in christ.
I love this story.
So I love this.
It sounds like there's a unique parallel.
Where you have christ.
He's calling this story and then she's wiping her feet where everyone is looking at her.
And he has the almost like the utmost of sins and filth, right?
But he parallels that to say that's actually what you are.
She's being forgiven.
Yeah, because you're not actually.
Yeah, you're more like her than you realize.
Yeah in your.
You're self -righteous.
She is unrighteous.
But she's confessing it and not confessing it.
She it's a public confession, right?
Willing to Acknowledge Her sin.
Now here's a question.
What does that woman say.
Find those words.
What she says.
She doesn't say a thing.
Does she?
No, that's interesting.
A man might have i'm not saying a man would have done the wrong thing in this situation.
Men are different and things like that.
It's not that women are better than men in this or men are better than women in other things.
Did do it wrong.
None of the men none of the men didn't do what's right.
Right, none of them.
So they were all in the wrong.
They were all in the wrong.
He didn't say anything to christ.
And he he didn't also say.
Right, well the the I think it is.
Is he knew the heart?
He was a prophet.
Yeah that he knew his heart, right?
You know, so in that sense like she said nothing.
But what she was wanting?
Versus what he was wanting, right?
Yeah, see there's a lot here, isn't there?
Perfect that you pointed out here.
Your sins have been forgiven.
I think it's perfect.
Tense might be a or is passive or whatever but either way as long as it's aris or.
Perfect.
It would have been in the past passed with action continuing particularly aris participle.
But yeah.
So it's evidence of Salvation already having taken place.
And there's an example of someone I believe she saved.
Saved without knowing even the crucifixion.
So people can be saved in different levels of knowledge.
But the ultimate issue is who's she trusting?
She's trusting jesus.
So I believe people can be saved and have varying degrees of knowledge of christ and be saved.
I really do.
Because the only way they could have that faith to begin with is god grants it to them.
All right, so.
Put that real quick.
It wouldn't have been lost on them.
He was Proclaimed his authority and divinity by saying her sins were forgiven.
Well, she says.
She says now we can talk about that your sins have been forgiven.
He it's not and i'd like to check my greek.
I think it's passive.
Well the nesb which is one paul used says have been forgiven.
What he used.
Yeah, that's what paul paul used the nsp and uh, you want to go with a more contemporary version?
You're going to check the greek.
So it's uh, luke 7 20 or 40 48.
So it's got to be uh, i'm thinking the perfect passive.
Or the air is passive participle.
I mean, yeah, here's passive participle.
And she's no she's had greek i've had greek.
So what this means i'm talking about is.
The tense is important because if it says your sins are forgiven which is flat present tense.
It doesn't carry the same meaning as they have been so.
Present tense.
I am or I eat a present participle.
I am eating past tense.
I ate a perfect tense.
Is I have eaten?
Which means it's occurring then and is still occurring the the pluperfect is I had
eaten.
Which means the action was performed and completed in the past.
I had i'm not.
Okay, perfect passive.
Indicative good.
More statement.
Yeah statement of reality and condition of actuality so your sins.
So he's saying your sins have been oh and passive voice one more thing it's it's uh, so I hit the
ball.
I am active in performing the action.
The ball hits me i'm passive in receiving the action.
So your sins have been forgiven they.
They have already been forgiven and are still in forgiveness and it happened to you.
You didn't do it yourself.
It was a it happened to you.
Those who are reclining at the table with him began to say to themselves.
Who is this man who even forgives sins?
It doesn't say he forgave sins technically, but the implication is.
He says your sins have been forgiven.
Oh, wait a minute.
How can you say that?
You don't who are you to say that that's the question that comes up because you know after the fact
when it's all.
They dispersed.
They're going to be talking about this for weeks.
Who is this guy who pronounces salvation or forgiveness of sins.
Who is this who does this?
Very important very important um.
And he said to the woman.
Your faith has saved you.
Go in peace.
There's justification by faith.
It's not by works.
She does stuff.
But it's the faith that justified her and as james 2 14 through 26 talks about.
Real faith has real works, but it's not the faith and the works that save its faith alone.
Won't get in all that difference right now and this is awesome.
This seriously, it's just it's an awesome Place of scripture.
Well this woman who doesn't say anything.
She just does.
Risks a lot goes into a pharisee's house who's supposed to religious leaders supposed to know her.
Not everything but know everything.
And he disrespects jesus.
The other people there don't do anything about it and she does.
And she really humbles herself in the process and I mean really humbles herself.
Kissing dirty feet wiping them with her hair, which means He
probably probably had defecation of animal stuff on his feet.
Dirt mud.
Kissing them.
Would you say she's a broken woman?
Oh, yeah.
He says your faith has saved you and notice the faith is in him.
It's in him.
She recognized to be able to interview her in heaven.
How much did you know about him beforehands?
Well, I you know, it'd be neat if I could get that high in heaven, you know I they give me a day pass, you
know go up.
Because i'm gonna be down low, you know, my wife's gonna be way up there.
She's gonna say yeah I used to know him.
You know, maybe go visit but uh.
How much did she really know she had to know enough to.
In order to do what she did as far as who he was.
Yeah, it's she seemed to be that's the right way to say it.
She seemed to be.
We don't know.
Because there could have been men there a lot of people don't realize.
That women could do things in the culture men could not do.
You could a woman could get in your face.
And say things and do things.
Where if you did it with a man man to man.
They'd already been on the ground rolling.
Uh women could get away with a lot of stuff they could.
Um, and so maybe she knew that and that's just how it was.
And she went in and And did what she had to do.
But the fact is.
She acted.
And her faith was in christ and him alone.
And she acted according to her faith.
And that's what we need to do as well.
Her her actions are a great example of actions that we're supposed to have and
there are other great examples of actions that men have done as well and.
But this is a particularly to me a particularly powerful uh place because
for me mostly.
That adoration and worship kissing the hair that is such a visible real thing
that I just think it's beautiful.
And I think it's wonderful.
And it touches my heart a lot.
Every time I teach on it.
It just it's tough.
Because that's my jesus.
That she is loving.
And would I have done that?
What were the disciples.
I guess not with it right.
Good question.
They were learning maybe they were maybe going uh.
Maybe they're.
You know, if you haven't you've watched the chosen.
It's pretty good.
I mean the first episode was the uh, you've married.
I've seen all of them.
So yeah, but it was it's made very well.
Yeah, it's good.
Well, there's a little bit of liberty taken.
Yeah, but the you know, I what I like whether this the apostles disciples following.
They don't have him figured out yet.
They don't know what's going on.
And uh, that's good because.
That's the case, you know men are a little.
Maybe some of you ladies have noticed.
Little hard -headed sometimes just a little women are not hard -headed or just but that's right.
Oh, you think so I can be careful because i'm up against the wall here.
You what?
You hide it better.
Yeah, we'll make you guys believe that you did wrong.
Also, that's a manipulation that's just that's an obvious great sin.
Yeah I could talk about that.
I could do marriage theology of marriage sometime.
Turn the head the other neck.
Yeah, that's actually a very sinful, uh thing if I taught I could teach sometime on the
theology of marriage.
It gets into headship and and what what is all.
Oh, it's quite a bit of a change.
You've been there when i've taught it right and it's different, isn't it?
Right out of scripture make people nervous um women, too.
But at any rate so these parables and there's more but we're you know, we've been at uh, for almost
two hours.
These are wonderful.
These are just wonderful.
They are wonderful.
Say the first 50 of Luke 7.
The what your faith has saved you is perfect as well perfect.
Faith is what saved.
And prospects.
This is one of the advantages of studying greek.
You learn this kind of stuff and you know.
You learn, uh to decline you learn to parse you learn constructions you learn.
I think some of the important stuff is passive active middle participle airs.
These things are really really help you understand what's going on a lot.
So to what we'll do so we've got some people in the chat room here.
If you got questions, maybe with charlie's still there what he could do is either type a question out.
Or find one and then highlight it and see um.
And arneek, are you out there?
She's not out there I guess because my wife has medical Physical problems so she has to go recline a lot.
Where could I go but to the lord?
That's why I love hymns matt.
Oh I'm not a hymn person.
That's why the person said that you know, I don't like him.
Yeah, I won't say two brother matt is so powerful story.
Yes me too brother matt.
Berrielli Diaz, okay.
Ray lagrange senior.
No ray.
Matt the name they go so fast the author of the book you recommended tonight is um
uh kenneth bailey.
Yeah, kenneth bailey takes a while matt the name of the author of the book you there is bailey some.
Not mary.
Yeah, kenneth bailey uh, and that is um Poet and peasant and through
peasant eyes.
It's technical.
But it's worth going through.
Yeah, I have it still and I read it 25 30 years ago.
And uh, maybe longer 35 years ago.
It's one of the few books I will not loan out to anybody because i've gone through it underlying stuff and I don't
want it lost.
Yeah, it's it's one of the Poet and peasant and through peasant eyes is a two
volume set.
All right, so is there any comments or any questions anybody wants to ask.
Let's see guests what does it say here guests.
Oh charlie's in there.
Let me turn that off.
There we go.
This phone thing works pretty well.
Uh, it makes it we had a camera set up over there and all this stuff.
I had a wireless mic and a whole bit.
Um, but I think this works out this as well.
All right, so no no comments, okay, that's all right no one has to
Comment that's all right.
Do you guys enjoy the parables?
Well, the one with the uh, the steward answered the question with that because I always struggled with that.
He struggled.
He now, you know.
So that that solved that with that because he says it solved it.
Yeah, I learned it out of that book.
It's like.
Oh, of course.
It makes perfect sense.
Um all right, so.
Any comments or questions?
You're you're a newbie.
And uh, so you've heard stuff like this before.
Oh good.
A lot more.
Yeah, hopefully I gave you some more details.
You probably heard this main stuff.
But my favorite though is the woman who comes in the pharisee's house, I just.
That to me is just too good.
And you know and you always need to hear a little bit more and sometimes people have insights.
Uh that others don't have and and it's just good to hear it.
And the parables are nice and a lot of people have never Heard this stuff before.
Yeah, he asked if he could comment on youtube or just facebook.
Comment where you want and uh.
Uh, I love your explanation of the prodigal son.
Really good.
John macarthur explained it the same way years ago.
Good.
Uh, love you matt.
He loves you.
The guy says he loves you already Matt.
That's the matt over there.
So that's good.
I think what about me?
I mean.
Sure, let me oddly enough of
all the characteristics of god that I struggle to really grasp keep in mind at all times is
actually like.
But when it comes to maybe living and acting out in that reality that doesn't always fall through i'm very much like
Despite all feelings just do what needs to be done even if you know, it's very cut cold and dry.
But that's my tendency, right?
So with that being said, uh maybe I can share a little bit of my background later, but
A lot of people who present the gospel will start out with oh god loves you so much and they
emphasize in the love without sharing like Yeah, the other half of the gospel, which is why we need god's love and
and that all comes into play.
But what.
With those two things that i'm battling in my head like yes God absolutely loves me, but also this
incorrect incomplete presentation of the gospel and presenting god's love as this fluffy warm thing
like What is god's love how should I think of it.
So what is god's love?
That's a very um, it's an interesting question um.
There's a doctrine called uh divine simplicity.
And it means that god exists as a single thing.
One sub substance.
He's not part this part that.
So his love is part of what?
He just simply is.
And uh perichoresis is the teaching the name of the teaching that each member of the
godhead interdwells the others there's a uh, a Permeation because
they're one thing and so in that there can be love and fellowship and so the trinity
becomes the the most minimalistic efficient necessity of the nature of god In the
fullness of expression of love and fellowship and things like that.
I can get into that later.
All right so to ask what is god's love that's a tough one to answer because We can
only know what love is by the standard of god and we can only know that by his self -revelation.
And so jesus is the expressed image of god.
We know that.
And hebrews 1 talks about and to see him as to see the father.
John 16 talks about that and so Jesus says god to love the world that he
gave.
So the nature of love is giving as other centered.
He said in john 15 13 He says greater love has no man than this but he lay his life down for his friend.
So since first john 4 8 says god is love and the greatest act of love is self -sacrifice.
Then what we can say what is god's love we would say it's an other centeredness Of
concern For the betterment and the welfare of others in a deep deep
deep way.
And that's how i've understood god's love and it's not just that but because there's a permeation
and awareness and Not to get narcissistic here.
But when I got saved there was an actual the very very Real presence of the holy
spirit and then the lord jesus.
I was very much aware of their presence and and uh, it's profound and it
changed me but uh, I remember experiencing the profound presence
of holiness.
And it was so profound That I was reduced to just nothing but tears.
And I mean wailing tears and I buried a child carry.
I carried his body to the grave and And the weeping of that day was worse than the day.
I buried my son.
I mean the intensity of god's majesty
Is incomprehensible?
And that love Also must have an incomprehensibility To it
that is an actual existence presence that we can understand and feel.
And I believe that that will be something we will enjoy forever and it'll be so majestically wonderful that
It will be unfathomable.
We won't be able to lower the cord with the rock on the belt to hit the bottom and see how deep it is.
The fathoms it's unfathomable and It's an other
centeredness that he's going to I believe envelop us in heaven in his presence with
an immeasurable But restrained measurement of love and
Devotion to us which is eternally old because he elected us for salvation for the foundation of the world.
That we're going to enjoy forever.
And so When you say, you know, what is his love?
It's this part of his own essence that is so other centered and giving and sacrificial.
That that is what we're going to be inside forever.
And when we get there, we would probably say that description remember that description matt gave you up boy was that insufficient.
And uh, that's right because that's how great I think it's going to be with him.
And on the alternate side, I think that's how bad it's going to be for those who have rejected him
in eternity and because jesus says You know You watch out
better that you go in blind and deaf or without arms and legs.
You enter into heaven then hold you going to hell it's going to be bad.
So, I don't know if I answered the question very well, but you did.
I tried.
Okay good.
Better keep my my percentages up.
How can you experience god's love.
There's an article let's see if there's anybody else got anything.
I wanted to offer an alternate interpretation of the steward parable wanted to offer an alternate interpretation.
I don't know how he's going to do that.
He's going to write it out uh Divine simplicity.
So charlie spine the guy who introduced me to apologetics read me a quote from joseph smith 1980 79 or
80.
We don't know we just say 80.
Uh, he what he does is he follows me around in the chat rooms and he does a great job.
He puts in uh links to the articles and karma and things like that.
Yeah, and so today After the show we are talking about this and you know these links he's missing
links and I think well.
Have a t -shirt missing, you know the link man and then I thought wait a minute.
He's the missing link man.
And so we're thinking about getting that shirt.
There's the missing link man and uh, only a few people would get it but uh,.
He was laughing.
So he's the one that they got you.
He's the one I was at a bible study had never seen him before he comes up.
I think it might have seen the week before.
I don't know but you know.
He said can I read you something?
Yeah, sure.
And he says uh here and he read me this quote in all these affidavits and all these indictments.
That is all the devil all corruption.
You false swears all hell boil over you burning mountains roll down your lava for I will come out on the top at last.
I have both.
I have more to boast of than ever any man has.
Neither john paul peter nor jesus ever did such a work as I.
I boast because I boast no one's ever done such work as I.
The followers of jesus ran away from me.
But the latter -day saints have never run away from me yet.
Wow joseph smith history the church volume six page 408 409 and I I can still remember
I still remember the paper he was reading was right here.
About where I was standing lexed him and listen to this.
And I actually did this.
I ripped out of his hand and I crumpled it.
I said who said this?
Because it was so blasphemous and he said joseph smith did and I said well, who's that?
And he said he's the founder of mormonism and I said in my incredible ignorance.
I said Well mormons are christian, but he's not.
And um, is it is the door latched?
Okay, and then he said no mormon was not christian.
I said yes it is.
He says no, it's not and I said why not and he started explaining it to me.
I went.
They teach what?
And he said there's a bible study on tuesday coming up, you know, this is a friday night and I said, okay tuesday I'm going i'm
going you know when they teach on this stuff and I remember saturday the next morning I didn't want to go.
Oh, I don't want to go sunday.
I don't feel like going.
I'd already given my phone number, you know, and I said, I don't want to go monday.
I don't want to go tuesday.
I don't want to go.
He calls me up.
Are you going?
Yes I still don't know why.
I said yes.
I still remember this.
And there's only one other thing like i'll just tell you the story this also happened.
George mathers and he was he worked for a christian research institute and I was working at kimberly clark
in fullerton, california orange county, california.
And I was doing apologetics for years.
And I had not been to college or some.
I did a little bit of college but none of and I hadn't been to college or seminary and uh, I was like 27 or
26 or something like that and I was working as a part -time.
But it was actually full -time and just have things develop.
And I was a temporary full -time temporary guy at a at a corporation doing mechanical drafting.
And so george would call me up every now and then and he would say hey matt.
Could you go to uh this such -and -such house and answer questions about mormons or jdubs or whatever it is?
I said sure.
And he would work with cri they get too many calls and they would sometimes have me go substitute for him and each time
George would call me up.
He'd say are you gonna go to seminary?
I'm not going to seminary.
I can't afford it.
I'm not gonna go i'm too old already.
I'm not gonna do this and he would okay, you know.
So, you know three weeks later call up.
Oh george, I know right away.
He's gonna ask me when you go to seminary and can you go to this house?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, blah blah blah and I go you're gonna say no i'm not i'm not i'm not and this went on for.
Uh, I don't know better part of a year.
Then one day I still remember this he calls me up.
And I was george and I already know i'm gonna say i'm not going to seminary.
It's it's all you always asked.
And this is the truth and he said well, can you go to this house?
And here's an address and you know, they could expect you tonight and I said sure sure no problem and uh wasn't married at
the time I could do that kind of stuff and uh.
And I go he's gonna he's gonna say it and i'm not kidding.
He says so when you go to seminary and I went I don't know but i'm going.
Just like that.
And I just knew I was going I just knew it I swear, I
still remember going i'm going I'm going I don't know how I know but i'm just going.
And he goes you are I said Yeah I'll look into it because well good.
It was predestined to happen.
Oh, it was i'll get this.
So this is the truth.
All i'm gonna tell you i'll just tell you the whole story.
This is fun stuff.
This is all real.
So I go, okay.
Uh, i'm a temp.
I'm a a temporary worker at a place.
And temporary workers don't have rights.
And i've been there like two and a half years.
And uh, I went to my boss who's a christian I said Seminary, I want to go to college.
I do college first to go to seminary I gotta finish my college.
I had like one semester in college and I gotta go to seminary and he goes I said can I work part
-time here?
And uh, I go to College he goes We don't let anybody go to it.
Nobody gets part -time here.
Well, can you ask he comes back two days later?
He goes I don't believe but they said yes.
And I could pick which hours I came in on i'm like That's good.
So, okay.
Well, that's good.
So um because of the schedule I didn't have a college to go to because
We're I started like a month late into the semester.
Except for this one college that had a building program going on and they were starting a month later.
So I called up on wednesday.
Basically what it was moved in on a friday on campus started classes on monday.
So i'm going to school and i'm still working as a a draftsman i'm doing
all this stuff and uh It's pretty hard having a job and doing you know college.
It wasn't seminary.
It was college and um, Long story short i'm skipping details.
I met a guy one summer who had a business Developing sorting
machinery.
For different parts screws nuts bolts and it's a big deal.
It's a big big big and automation machines.
And um, so I went in and I I moved I quit where I was working kimberly clark and worked for him.
Got a little bit better money and better hours.
And you know not knocking kimberly or the company was great, but I found a better deal and within two weeks the
guy wanted me to uh started becoming a salesman.
I said I can't be a salesman because My last name is slick for one thing who's going to trust me.
And uh, I don't know anything about selling robotics assembly machinery sorting machinery.
I don't he says I want you to just do this.
Anyway go out there.
So I remember going into a company handing him my business card Matt slick.
Selling robotics machinery and I swear this is what happened.
I went to this one company like an el segundo and uh I go in there and the guy
looks at my card.
He goes are you for real?
And I said, yeah, my last name's slick and he said slick.
You're not same slick in your salesman.
I said, yep.
And uh, I said, uh, and he goes hold on and I was gonna explain, you know, i'm i'm I'm
trustworthy to be a minister.
I want to be a minister going to seminary but not yet, you know.
And he says give me some more cards.
He takes him.
Hey bob frank george.
Come here and he could walk over this guy's named slick.
And look what he you know, he's selling robotics machinery and i'm like what and this guy goes you sell sorters.
Okay, I need sorters.
Come here with me.
Like you're kidding me.
And so he goes he's back in the factory.
This is all true.
He's back in the factory and he and I get seven percent commission on anything I do right?
So anything I found and so I go, okay, and we're walking along this hallway and he says
He shows me this room.
I still see it and he goes we have sorting machines for blah blah blah.
Can you do that?
He go?
Yeah, he goes six hundred thousand dollar job.
It's yours.
I'm like what?
It doesn't make any sense.
You had to do all kinds of business.
He goes i'll give it to you.
And he walked into his office.
I'm not lying.
I could not believe it's just unheard of and he's talking to me and he says you know about such and such and such.
And such and that's when I said Uh to be honest with you.
I have no idea what you just talked about I'm gonna be a minister.
It's why i'm going to school.
I'm doing all this stuff.
I can't lie to you I just don't know what you just said and i'm sorry, but I can find out i'm just being truthful and he
looked at me and he said Are you serious?
I said Yeah.
Oh, I got it wrong.
I got it wrong.
That's when he said it's yours okay, I remember so been a long times i've told the story so
He said he looks at me and he stares at me and he goes.
Do you want to know about it?
I said, yeah, he goes.
Okay, come with me.
He starts teaching me about the stuff that I need to sell him on.
And that's when he walked by a room and said do you have such he goes?
Yes, and he said you can have that i'll give that to you and he's teaching me how to do my job
to sell to him.
In two weeks, I found two million dollars in business.
That's a hundred and forty thousand dollars in commission.
For two weeks work now.
I'm going out doing window shopping for bmws because that was the car and uh.
So I I actually actually this is during the summer and I said, oh, I don't need to uh,.
Well, that's when well i'm remembering all this stuff been a long time.
That's when it was That the school started late because of what happened.
I'm sorry.
I'm trying to remember this accurately.
And so I decided not to go to seminary.
And not to finish college because god's obviously blessing me here and I can use this money to do other things with the kingdom.
That was my decision turned out.
It was not a good decision.
Uh, my dad went in the hospital he was in icu.
And uh, my roommate and I dave, uh, we got an eviction notice and uh.
For some unknown reason I get a warrant in the in the mail for my arrest.
For some traffic parking thing.
I had no awareness of and Scared the crud out of me, you know, they're gonna come and get me, you
know I I ended up taking care of it.
You just write up a check, you know.
Okay, but warrant getting eviction notice all within 10 days.
Oh and one more thing happened.
Within the 10 days, so i'm driving out to the company.
Yeah I'll go do some more making money and the guy goes.
Uh, we got a problem.
We got to talk.
Uh -oh.
You said uh, the supplier we have for all our parts is being sued and uh, he's basically going out of business.
We're basically out of business.
He says I gotta let you go.
I lost my job.
I got an eviction notice warrant for my arrest.
My dad's in in icu.
So i'm literally this is the true this happened i'm driving home down the 15
freeway.
From ontario, I think it was ontario.
I'm driving, you know I just can't believe it, you know.
Everything was so good.
And now it's all crap, of course God knows that he wanted me to go to sim.
I didn't what do I know and i'm just driving i'm just it's shock, you know.
How am I gonna live and I hadn't gone to the college yet that i've got my my dates mixed up.
So i'm driving along and I see I used to have eagle vision just incredibly good vision not so much anymore.
And so I could see way down the road.
There was a car.
That was a slight angle on the road on the side of the road with a woman standing next to it.
I mean she was just that high and I could see it go.
She's got a flat i'll stop and help her Might as well.
I got nothing else to do now.
So I pull up behind her car and she's got this nice flowing light dress on it.
It was just nice to see it was nice and uh.
The wind's kind of flapping a little bit and and her hair's a little messed up and and uh, she got this flat.
You know, and I you know, and I got a nice shirt on.
I took my tie off and had slacks on and.
You got a flat tire.
She says yeah, I said here.
Let me change it for you.
She goes you can't you get your clothes dirty?
And I said don't worry about that.
Don't worry about that.
Now i'm always looking for opportunities to witness right?
So, uh, she hands me the keys and we get the car get the the thing.
I'm start jacking this thing up and i'm fixing her her tire and and I said, yeah, you know.
Oh, she goes.
Well, what do you do for a living?
Well, I just lost my job.
And I said, um, I lost my job.
I this happened this happened this I tell the whole story might as well.
I got time, you know.
And she's listening she can't go anywhere.
And so, uh, maybe I could turn into a witnessing, uh encounter.
I said I wanted to go to seminary but I have to finish college first and uh, you know, maybe we could talk about the lord.
And she says to me.
My husband is a seminary professor.
And god is calling you to go to seminary.
And you need to repent and you need to do what he said to do.
This is why you've lost all this stuff because you said you weren't going to go.
So you repent and you need to go to school.
I'm like, yes, ma 'am.
Yes, ma 'am.
And she told me politely in a way that a woman can do that, you know.
And she's getting on me but in a loving way i'm like yes, ma 'am.
And I fixed her car.
She drove off and i'm going I guess i'm gonna be going back to school.
And that's when I was a month late.
I remember it was a month late and I went to the school and uh started a seminary.
Or I started college.
And so I mean the true story.
It's all true.
So and then later I graduated from college.
And um, I was gonna go my wife and we got married by then.
I was going to go to ted's trinity evangelical divinity school just north of chicago.
And and I applied it was in orange county southern california.
I applied at san diego at westminster theological seminary.
You cover your bases and I got accepted at both.
Well both where we're going to go to to ted's because i'm not going to be a slimy calvinist.
So this guy don't know anything.
Predestined I believe the predestination but limited atonement.
And so, um now I love but at any rate so I said no we're gonna go to ted's she goes.
Okay, let's go to ted's we start selling everything.
My mom gets uh, breast cancer breast cancer.
Right, and so I go.
So she I think they discovered it on like monday and like tuesday or wednesday or thursday.
She had a mastectomy.
I mean it was aggressive and uh.
Then nine years later.
She had another mistake.
But she survived that one and gradually she ended up passing away not from that I think it was something else but whatever.
So they were aggressive.
They took care of it and um I can still remember her in recovery
looking at me saying matthew.
Don't go.
Don't go to chicago.
It's so far away and I knew at that moment.
I was going to go to westminster.
So that's how I went to westminster in san diego and stuff
I get all kinds of stories like this, but uh.
They're just things regardless.
But anyway, just to tell people like stories, but it's weird, huh?
It's real.
It's real how it works.
So I don't got me going.
Have you go where you need to go or where he wants you to be.
Yeah years down the road and you don't even know it at the time, right?
That's how come nick didn't realize how wonderful I am until recently.
Um, just the same kind of a thing, you know, we tried to move out of here.
My wife has some serious medical issues.
She's had open heart surgery.
She's had some other issues.
And that's why she's not here because she has to go take care of herself, but that's fine.
But we tried to move to go to arizona.
And that's kittler incidentally or we call them obi.
I was just gonna say your cat looks like hitler.
It's like hitler.
And we call him kittler.
So hitler pigster, uh fat boy obi, he's very loving he's he's so great.
So we tried to sell our house, right?
He does head don't touch his ears as long as ears touched everything else except his ears.
Yeah, he has ear problems, but you know, but he's just sitting there loving it.
And so i was going to say is that god has a way of keeping us in places and things like that.
And we were going to sell this house in a market when houses are being sold in two days.
And we couldn't sell it after a month.
No one would we got one offer and it was a crap offer.
And we could.
What is going on.
And dave brock who often comes here for the study.
He's our realtor.
He was saying praise god.
You're not going anywhere.
Yay.
He's i've been praying against you moving To you know, so we're ending up here
and now we realize it's a good thing for us to have stayed here.
So anyway, those those are kind of stories that have been very encouraging here.
Yeah, because one of the things is like I grew up once you grew up in a charismatic background.
Oh, and so it's always that level of prosperity.
And it's just like You don't realize How much that
becomes an effect of you.
And later on I became uh, actually introduced reform to a presbyterian church
so from that I was like I I agreed so much more with calvinism.
Unfortunately, but.
So you're presbyterian reformed?
Yeah, I was turning arp.
So I have more what's my confession?
We gotta talk because i'm thinking you're gonna be really a great person.
No I have a feeling.
Your theology is almost probably perfect like mine.
I'm i'm I'm looking forward to having some being humble and i'm of course i'm being humble.
I'm proud of my humility.
Just copied it.
So it's there you go.
Well the london london confession.
I think 1689.
Oh, so you're not a pedo baptist.
You know what?
Oh you are.
That's not good.
London.
That's no that's what i'm saying.
I was just saying okay.
He's a pedo baptist.
Yes Yes.
Are you all mill pre -mill?
So I think i'm more historical.
Uh historical what because there's variation.
Okay, so I do lean because I like historical honestly.
That's a definite personal Thing that and then so I I kind of more lean
towards a semi -prejudice.
A semi -what preterist.
So am I i'm a semi -preterist.
It's called partial preterism, right?
I'm all millennial but how about this.
I can show you guys just what you want.
The wicked are taken before christ before the rapture occurs.
See they're all nodding.
I'm still actually learning.
Okay, i've been doing it for years.
I've been doing it.
I can still teach on this if you guys want.
I can do a little study on that right now, but uh something the guys in the room has already been over two hours.
I'll tell you what we'll do.
Just to do it.
I'll shut this down.
Oh, what are we going to talk about next week?
What do you guys want to what?
If they could ask questions, okay ask questions,
maybe I should do this.
Okay uh.
No, I could do questions.
Who's taking first when jesus returns the wicked matthew 13 30 specifically says so
so go ahead and pipe your questions and i'm going to uh.
My face is my password.
Now what happens if you lose your password.
You got to change your face.
You look bad.
No logic was it.
Uh, oh, I keep forgetting to call back somebody no matter I want to stay and watch.
What.
Yeah, you want to hear what?
Oh, no, uh here's showing me matthew 13 30.
That's what it says.
I'll have both to go together till the end of the age.
I'll say the reapers first till time of the harvest first gather the tears.
Gathered the wheat into the barn.
So the first one's gathered to the tears.
So what i'm gonna do now is go in here if you got questions.
Uh, I can go in here.
I should have done this earlier.
Okay and Enter studio.
And then I can see questions that you guys type in.
Okay, and matt slick other.
But i'm already in there.
Come on.
Now I see everybody all this stuff.
Boy, that's a good looking guy in the middle there.
That's that's charlie, obviously.
Um, I see david.
Yeah, right.
See how it works.
See how.
They got on the phone and I can see the
People.
All right, um, no man, I want to stay and watch.
Okay I'll do a little bit eschatology and do that and stay on.
Look at the screen.
Matt kernel posted question.
Oops, uh, oh wanted to offer an alternative Interpretation of the steward parable.
Tell you what write it out.
Okay, write it out and send it to me.
It's almost midnight.
My man is snoring.
Okay, matt.
Is there another scripture that relates to the one with the tares?
Yes go to matthew 2437 and following and luke 17 26 and
following.
And it says two men in the field one is taken one is left.
That's the context of once you're contextually ones are taken out of the wicked.
Matt does your wife think you're more beautiful than charlie?
No, john wilkinson.
Matt does your wife think you're more beautiful than charlie.
Well, what's the answer?
She's partial to santa claus so I lose out all right.
Oh john is clapping.
Hey debbie, hey, see you debbie.
She's in the specter.
Love your face um, okay.
Okay, so, uh, you got any questions or comments now's the time right now.
Just go ahead and go for it and then after we're done I'll do a little eschatology study if you guys want just a little thing for fun.
And then we'll keep it online if you guys want.
Sound good my audio matt.
Yeah, you're welcome.
Yeah, you're well free to leave, you know I can start talking like this and make it go but um, maybe I won't.
You gotta go about 10 30.
Yeah, we do.
This is what we did in escondido.
We had bible studies.
They were two three four hours.
Not because that I made everybody stay.
Um, they just stayed we just talked it was fun.
Way up in the window.
So What?
Hey, I think he was falling asleep.
Oh, that wasn't me.
That was somebody else.
But yeah, that was six hours that paul had talking chicken man.
Chark link master um.
Come on, i'm waiting.
I want to have all these questions and comments in here.
So i'll wait for it.
Thanks for the tears with the woman wiping the feet of you.
Isn't that good laura?
That was great.
I finally got to meet laura over the weekend.
Laura anderson.
Okay, I guess no one's gonna say anything.
When matt comes out of the bathroom everybody do this normal thing we do that was great.
That was awesome.
So that he missed it.
You with me on this?
You weren't listening.
When he comes out of the bathroom everybody go that was awesome.
Oh, you know.
Once we did it at one bible study I was teaching at a church the guy goes what I miss.
It's happened, but it's fun.
You have fun at matt's bible studies you learn you get challenged you hate and you also love at the same time.
Oh, hey, my matt was snoring too.
I was startled to not earn a nod.
Uh, I guess nobody's got any comments.
Okay matt help progressing pilgrim.
Can I take your notes?
Yeah, you can take them all.
I never went to the alien convention trip.
I never made it.
Otherwise i'd be there kind of now.
Utah was great had a good time.
That was good you missed it that was awesome that was the best thing ever.
I think I think he's on to me.
It was yeah, you're never gonna say that again.
On youtube.
All right, uh baptismal regeneration in particular i'm getting blown up on twitter for coming against sacramentalism.
Sacramentalism is different than sacerdotalism.
So i'm not sure what you mean, but you're probably talking to catholics and eastern orthodox who believe that there's grace.
Embedded inside the sacraments.
If you're talking to catholics, you need to look at uh, catholic catechism paragraph 1999.
Where it's infused grace is infused into the soul and you can read about some stuff like that on uh,
karma, okay.
Getting low on disk space so i'm gonna have to delete some stuff.
I need a yeah my other laptop.
Oh my goodness.
It's gonna do a bunch of stuff.
Um, matt you had a caller today that said he knew a ton of theology.
Is that hidden pride it sounded well, you know if you know a lot of stuff.
It's one thing to say it, but if you say it over and over and over again, you know.
When's it become prideful and that's why I said to him, uh about the humility issue.
Um, because it seemed as though he was a little bit prideful, but I don't know if he was or not.
Matty we had a caller today that said that okay.
You want a little bit eschatology?
Yeah, you ready?
Yeah, okay, let's go to I'll just quote it to you.
Okay when he comes out.
The best thing we've ever heard.
So matt we do that.
To different people I've done over the years and one time this guy comes out the bathroom.
We all did that and he goes No, what I missed.
He was so serious.
It was great.
Oh, man I'm one person in life.
I'll figure it out.
You'll figure it out later.
So what we're gonna do what I will do.
Well, I can do deprescatology.
I can do that.
Oh, I'm just gonna ask you.
So the thing about adam.
And he mom and dad first.
About them not necessarily being.
Not necessarily being naked.
One of the theories is That they they were clothed in the glory of god in the light of god.
The clue we have is when moses comes down from the mount his face was shining.
And the bible says clothed in righteousness clothed in light so one of the conjectures is that they were in the very presence of god
and that uh, they were shining.
Because of his glory we can't prove this.
It's just a just a conjecture and when they sinned it was gone.
We're naked and that's one of the theories I like it.
Would I die in that hill?
No, I wouldn't die in that hill but yeah.
That was so good wasn't everybody.
Oh man, that was good.
Yeah, you should have been here.
Okay, what.
I got a question about lutheranism.
I'm going to get to that and we'll do some eschatology.
After I go to the bathroom, oh boy when you come out, yeah when I come out.
For my folks, you know what that uh, you know, just to bring up with some of the things that we Makes us ask
questions.
You know that and that was it with that.
They were Completely I think they misunderstood it.
Turned off from um.
Turned off from applying this from the study.
Uh altogether and I just probably said one of the things that you know that.
And I said now we're bringing things like it's designed for us to ask questions to go with our bibles and just kind of you know.
People are so Entrenched in their traditions that they're not open to study.
The baptism thing too with that where they went, um, uh I just like to talk about the stuff
that you know that we learn with that different things that I never saw before and uh.
They're on their baptism has to be by.
By immersion that it says here, you know that you know, jesus was immersed.
It doesn't never says that.
And uh, you know, it's like we came up all the water and I said daddy you're standing in the puddle of water.
Right now it says right here.
Look then take them to uh acts chapter eight.
Both the ethiopian eunuch and philip came up out of the water.
So were they birth both immersed?
Right, okay.
Yeah, it's people who just don't uh, you know.
Yeah, okay.
Lutheranism, uh is lutheranism a valid expression of christianity i'd say it's within orthodoxy.
I went to a lutheran college uh.
But they're teaching infant baptism regeneration.
They are otherwise fairly solid but that yeah, that's right.
They teach what's called ex opera operata by the doing it is done and I don't like the idea of their infant.
But they teach you can lose your salvation.
So they believe in the covenantal baptism that actually saves the child.
He's considered to be saved.
And I don't agree with that at all.
Uh, okay, so you ready?
Matthew 24 starting at verse 37.
Luke 17 starting at verse 26.
And i'll quote them like this i'll go because they're both equal until the one part.
All right, as it was the days of noah.
So shall it be the days of the coming of son of man for they were eating they were drinking they were giving in marriage.
Till the day that noah entered the ark and the flood came in.
Took them all away destroyed them all.
So matthew 24 says the flood came and took them all away and luke 17 says the flood came and destroyed them all.
So we know from both that the ones who were giving in marriage were the wicked.
Give it in marriage doing the bad stuff.
Giving a marriage what I could quote it now.
It was the days of noah social becoming something they were giving in marriage.
They were drinking drinking and giving in marriage.
So they were the wicked ones.
And then it goes to method 24 and says toodle toodle be in the field when it's taken when it's left.
The context is the wicked are the ones who are taken.
This is not a rapture verse the rapture occurs.
That's first thessalonians 4.
Verse 16 through chapter 5 verse 2, which we'll get to later.
So that's the rapture it does occur and um.
But matthew 24 luke 17 are not about the rapture.
It's about a judgment of the wicked and in luke 17.
You know the flood came and took them all away or matthew 24 the flood came and destroyed them all.
Luke 17 later.
They ask him where are they taken and he says where the body is the vultures gather.
Now one's taken one is left one's taken one is left so one theory
I like to say.
Because it is not even provable.
But it's just flat out fun.
Uh, matthew 16, I believe it is uh, three unclean spirits like frogs go out to gather them together for armageddon
right.
What do frogs do?
One taking one left one taking one left.
I have no idea if that's legitimate, but it's fun to say.
But they're gathered for armageddon.
So some people will say well, okay.
Now i'm going to step aside a little bit and talk about a millennialism.
I'm an amillennialist, which means I believe that the millennial reign of christ is present.
That we're in it now and you're right.
And I believe i'm right.
But you're humble.
And pre -millennialism says there's a coming thousand year reign.
Post -millennialism says that at the preaching of the gospel, etc.
We're going to usher in the kingdom of god and.
So i'm all mill and the reason i'm all mill is because if you go to
Uh first thessalonians 4 verse 16 and my bible program still opening my computer's low on
uh, Low on um.
Memory from the figure where I get my other laptop.
It's low on memory so it's just hanging there.
First thessalonians 4 what verse 16.
For the coming of the law of the son of man will be how does it say was it well, i'll just get here.
Angels will descend from heaven with a shout and the voice of the archangel the dead in christ shall rise first.
And we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together to meet him in the air.
Therefore my brethren, uh.
As concerning the times on the epics you have no need to be whatever.
For the coming of the day of the lord will come like a thief in the night right.
So what what he's saying there?
Forget the chapter break.
Okay it says uh.
For the lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel the trumpet of god and the dead in Christ will rise
first.
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them In the clouds to meet the lord in the air
and so we shall always be with the lord.
Therefore come from one with these words.
Now as to the times and the epics brethren.
You have no need of anything to be written to you for you yourselves know full.
Well that the day of the lord will come just like a thief in the night.
So that's what it is.
The rapture is that jesus comes back in the clouds the thief of the night, right?
Go back to acts chapter one.
Boy, I could teach you guys so much.
I could really mess you guys up.
For uh nine.
Except for one turning at verse nine.
Now remember the issue of the clouds.
And he said.
And after he said these things he jesus was lifted up while they were looking on and a cloud received him
out of their sight.
And they so they were gazing intently into the sky while he was going behold two men in white clothing stood by them.
They also said men of galilee.
Why do you stand looking up into the sky?
This jesus who has been taken up from you into heaven will come in just the same way as you've
watched him go into heaven.
So how is he coming back?
The clouds right.
So what does 4 16 say?
For the lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel the trumpet of god the dead in christ Will rise first then
we who are alive and remain will be cut up together with them in the clouds.
To meet the lord.
This is the return of christ when the rapture occurs.
Simple versus versus.
Seven year tribulation beforehand the rapture occurs.
They go up to meet the meet him.
And then he comes back, but they're going to say no.
Seven years he comes down partially in the clouds and he goes back up.
You never see that in scripture ever.
Yeah, he comes back twice.
But he's really come back the first time he kind of kind of got partial coming back he comes back a little bit.
What doesn't say he's back twice?
I agree with you that's why pre -tribulation doesn't work for that one of those reasons
and.
So this is called the uh, the day the lord comes like a thief in the night, right right.
Second peter chapter three verse 10 last one there's a uh
Thessalonians Says this but the day of the lord will
come like a thief.
In which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat.
If the day of the lord comes like a thief in the night.
Or it comes like a thief.
If there is looking from this way left to right the crucifixion later.
The rapture seven year tribulation jesus comes back thousand years then the new heavens and new earth.
But the day of the lord that comes like a thief is when the rapture happens and when the new heavens and new earth are made.
There can be no literal thousand years simple.
These two verses or these two pericopes is what converted me to all mill revelation 20
verse 1.
Now i'm going to ask you guys questions literal or figurative.
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven literal or figurative.
I think he literally saw an angel but could he figure okay holding the key of
the abyss literal or figurative.
Figurative.
And a great chain in his hand.
Figurative and he laid hold of the dragon the serpent of old.
Literal, okay uh.
Who is the devil and satan?
And bound him for a thousand years.
Or literal how do we know we don't we don't people who will go here they'll say well the thousand years means that
literal thousand.
Year, that's what it is because it says right there.
Well, then I guess the angel has a key in a chain and took hold of the serpent.
Right the key in the chain or figurative so that literal no, it's figurative.
Well, then how do you know thousand is literal because it's literal.
That's the answers that they give you.
Now i'll ask them i'll say well matthew 12 22 matthew 12 We're starting at
verse 22, so i'll say now satan's supposed to be bound.
They're in a millennium, right.
That's when there's a semi -palatian.
Well, so seeing gets released again.
To gather up the army for armageddon.
So how does that happen?
By him getting released and gathering the army together.
Nothing 12 what?
I was like, wait, what?
There's a kind of answer to get my wife.
Well, how do you walk over there by taking steps?
She's got.
We'll talk about that, okay.
She's going.
I thought I liked this guy but you know, that's shifting um.
That's now she doesn't sure.
The verse 22 we're going to talk about what blasphemy the holy spirit is and satan being bound.
Then a demon -possessed man who was blind and mute was brought to jesus and he healed him.
So that the mute man spoke and saw all the crowds were amazed and they were saying this man cannot be the son of david.
Can he?
But when the pharisees, uh heard this they said this man cast out demons only by beelzebul the ruler
of the demons.
Verse 25 and knowing their thoughts jesus said to them any kingdom divided against itself laid waste.
And any city or house divided against itself will not stand if satan casts out satan.
He is divided against himself.
Whoa now jesus is relating satan to beelzebul.
How then will the kingdom stand if I by beelzebul cast out demons?
By whom do your sons cast them out for this reason?
They will be your judges.
But if I cast out dave by the spirit of god, then the kingdom of god has come upon you.
Is he casting him out by the power of god by the spirit of god?
Yes, then the kingdom of god has come upon them, right?
That requires that's what it is.
Or how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property unless he first binds a strong man.
In order to cast out demons the strong man's got to be bound, right?
And then he will plunder his house.
He who is not with me Is against me and he who does not gather with me scatters.
Therefore I say to you any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people but blasphemy against the spirit should not be forgiven.
That's what it is saying that jesus did his miracles by the power of the evil one.
Whoever speaks a word against the son of man, it shall be forgiven him.
But whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it shall not be forgiven him either in this age or the age to come.
So what he's saying is he's casting out demons and the only way to do that.
If the strong man is bound and he relates satan to beelzebul.
So is satan bound according to jesus right here?
So is the kingdom now?
Yeah, go to matthew 13 30.
Wheat in the parable the wheat in the tares.
All right, allow both to go together for the time of the harvest.
And I will say to the reapers first gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up.
But gather the wheat in my barn now the rapture occurs when they go up into the clouds first.
I saw audience four.
And jesus returns in the clouds acts 1 9 through 4 9 through 11.
The first ones gathered are the tares that's what jesus says first gather the tares that's what he says
first gather the tares if the rapture occurs when jesus returns.
Then when jesus returns the wicked are taken to judgment.
That's what it says now 31 and he presented another parable.
The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed.
It goes on and on and go down to verse 36.
When he left the crowds and went to the house.
And his disciples came to him and said explain to us the parable the tares of the field.
Now, this is this is really good.
Jesus can explain the parable.
The one who sows the good seed is a son of man.
And the field is the world and as for the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom.
And the tares are the sons of the evil one.
Notice sons of the kingdom and sons of the evil one.
And his enemy who sowed them is the devil and the harvest is at the end of the age.
There's only two ages this age the age to come.
And the reapers are angels.
So Just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire.
So shall it be at the end of the age.
Check this out.
The son of man will send forth his angels and they will gather out of his kingdom.
All stumbling blocks and those who contain who commit lawlessness.
The wicked are taken first.
The ones who are taken are taken out of his kingdom.
They are the wicked who are taken before the rapture occurs.
It has to be where we're in the kingdom of christ now.
Therefore the millennium Is not a literal five thousand years because god it's a
figurative number.
God's on the cattle in a thousand hills.
A thousand days is but a year a year's but a thousand days, you know.
Thousand years but a day and so that's what jesus is saying.
The word thousand is like a word kabillion.
It doesn't have an exact value.
It's a large number.
So the evidence is here that the rapture occurs.
They'll go meet him in the clouds.
And they said that jesus will return in the clouds.
There's only this age in the age to come at the end of this age is when the the wicked are taken to be judged
before The rapture occurs.
Which also is when the new heavens and new earth are made because both the rapture.
And the new heavens and new earth are said to be the day the door that comes like a thief in the night.
And he says in matthew 13 That the wicked are the ones taken before the christians
at at the end of the age.
That's what it says in matthew 24.
Luke 17.
The ones who are taken are the wicked.
And are taken to judgment according to what jesus says in luke 17 so That's why i'm all millennial.
That's why I believe in post -trib rapture.
That's why I believe the wicked are taken before the christians are and let me just tell you when I started teaching this publicly
I'm, the only one who knew that I knew who believed this.
I'm, the only one I knew I heard of who believes that the wicked are taken first.
It took me two full years before I started to just say, you know what?
That's what I believe.
That's what i'm gonna start saying and teaching and you know because It's a serious and it
is it's a serious concern.
If you're the only one who says what you're saying and all of christianity so to speak isn't agreeing with you.
It's a serious concern and it really is.
I took it very seriously.
So I kept going over the scriptures.
I kept saying Is this what it says?
First gather the tares.
Was I believing the first ones gather the tares?
Well mostly yes, but it's got to be something to it.
And finally I on the radio one day about two years ago, I just said, you know what?
He just says the first one's gathered the tares.
I got to teach what it says is what it says what jesus said.
I can't argue with it.
And I don't care if everybody else disagrees.
Let him disagree.
That's what he said.
Now if someone's got a better way to put it together i'm totally open.
But I don't see it doesn't mean there isn't wasn't there but i'm totally open to being you know modified and
corrected.
And I am okay but This is why i'm on mill and If you
want I can get into depressed catology and tell you why it's going to get worse and worse and worse
because It's going to get worse and worse and worse.
Because we are undergoing in our culture today a soft
totalitarianism.
Totalitarianism is where one person or a small group of people have absolute control.
That's not the case in america.
But in totalitarianism the state is the final authority.
Totalitarianism is atheistic when there are no universals resting in the heart and the mind of the universal being
who's god.
Then the secular state will become totalitarian.
As far as we let it.
And what will happen most probably is The soft totalitarianism.
Which I got out of the book live not by lies bringing this up and you read it.
It's incredible.
It is scary incredible i'm only 30 -ish pages in one of the best books i've ever read so far.
I'm really impressed by the research he did and incredible.
Between our culture and what was it?
Russia.
What's it.
Well i'm at the place where he's really talking about russian and how it's going.
So he he moves on to survivors that are from uh, one of the chaps.
Yep, he just mentioned it.
Oh, it is phenomenal.
Live not by lies and it's got a it's a red covered book.
And there's a man pushing a carrying a cross walking up kind of hill and I
absolutely recommend everybody get it.
Bill mckeever recommended it to me over the weekend.
I got it that night started reading and I was like bill next day, dude.
I think he's brilliant.
It's one of those brilliant things.
He's insightful.
He was on Cross examine with frank turek.
Okay frank turrick.
But yeah, yes and um.
After I listened to that podcast I was like I have to get this book and yeah live not by lies roger air.
He did me.
He's like an american historian.
That's a problem because greek orthodox is really bad but It's
what he's saying is just phenomenal and i'm outlining taking outline taking notes out and it's going to formulate some other ideas.
Some other things i'm going to be teaching on but his points are just phenomenal.
I've been already doing stuff on social justice and researching government socialism and things like that.
So it's fitting in exactly but what he's talking about and which is true We already know is that what happens is
you start looking over your shoulder when you say certain things because the The context of your society is that you're not safe to
speak you're not safe to really say things and that.
It's already started well under play.
Yes, oh thank you, that's another term.
Because i'm actually doing Other research and combining it in there because one of the ways to control thinking
is to control the vocabulary that's used.
And so birthing it takes reminding me one of them is partner instead of husband or wife.
If they want you to start using these terms, you start thinking in those terms.
They can control the conversation.
They control.
You're already doing it.
Yeah, I don't do it.
Society is Yep.
And what i'm going to do is also write an article on how to resist.
As christians what to do is resist take a lot of what he said a lot of other things i've said and i'm going to do that.
They're actually changing.
From being considered mothers.
Birthers birthing people.
Yeah birthing people.
And so it's an affair instead of adultery and i've been on the radio people said well Someone's had an affair said don't say affair say adulterates
what it is.
You know, and i've had people say partner go.
What do you mean partner?
I'm on them.
Don't don't talk like that.
You know as a christian use the biblical terminology and stick with truth because they're clouding the truth.
And anyway, so what's going to happen is they're going to create more problem.
Racism is a thing that they're using.
You create the problem as jesus says the house divided against itself will cannot stand and this is what happened in early russia.
They were the proletariat.
It wasn't race that they used it was the haves and the haves nots doesn't matter and they used it to drive
wedges in society.
Which became then efficient inefficient all kinds of shortages and all kinds of problems.
And then they they came in and solved it with their totalitarian crap.
It's interesting because it was it was the liberal universities that pushed that information.
Liberal universities.
Where are we seeing liberal universities?
That's most of them.
They're sitting there.
They're l socks.
Now l sock is an advanced theological term, which means lying sack of crap.
Yeah, it comes from the greek le seco my or something like that.
Yeah,
it's ridiculous and critical race theory.
Is is being taught.
There's lawsuits now going out.
Parents are saying screw this stuff.
We got to start fighting back.
I recommend on the radio.
Was it today or yesterday?
Read the declaration of independence.
People have it read it.
Read it and don't let them take away our weapons.
Yeah, I think part of the biggest issue I could say this like i'm not very much informed or
educated in the constitution.
Partly being that my parents are haitian.
So like I haitian.
Haitian they're from haiti.
Is what language they speak over there english or korea.
Yeah, a little bit of french.
Yeah, my wife speaks french.
You guys see in sweden.
It's a french.
Mix of dialect with spanish, but it's more french canon, okay, it's like almost
slain to cool, you know, so but one of the things is like i've come more from a background where.
Caribbean.
Yeah, I think that's where.
But one of the interesting things up here is that.
The biggest thing and I think buddy bachem talked about it.
He is great he has um.
They start with the 16 19th right and written on that too actually can
redefine anything but right people don't know is that the more it actually kind of.
Tries to reform in a sense.
It eventually gets to christianity.
It doesn't stop.
Christianity has to be removed right or subjugated.
Right, but it's already occurring right because if you don't do that.
You're going to say it starts here.
But who are the people that supposedly brought this?
Right, you know, so it has come back to that and where people are like Already in some ways doing it.
There's people that's supposed to be vandalist calling them active vandalist meaning they No longer
believe christian orthodoxy.
We're deep.
Deconstructionist is actually part of it.
But they're trying to change it because part of it is they don't have a sufficient way to deal
with the issues.
So they compromise in some areas.
So foundationally they're trying to actually change from yeah What christianity is or they
can't accept it?
Or How it's weak treats people, you know, but there's people that misrepresent Christianity
and they're trying to use them as evidence to say this is why it doesn't work.
It's like no.
That's That doesn't define what biblical things are saying.
Well, that's why I teach.
You know different levels of Biblical theology and I really believe that christians need to know
christian theology and I teach it.
And I've had a lot of people say that at first.
I thought you know.
You're arrogant for saying all these things are true and not true.
I don't know read the scriptures.
Because they're not used to truth being taught and most christians just don't know very much.
In fact, i've you know, i've been to seminars where i've taught.
And you know as an example see there's 100 people in the room.
And what i'll do is i'll say okay.
Let me i'm gonna ask you to show your hands.
And I said how many here have a bible, you know, most people have a bible and you can have your phone.
How many believe in in the trinity.
How many believe jesus christ is god in flesh hands go up?
How many if you raise your hand i'll call on you how many can defend that?
Jesus is god in flesh right now from memory from scripture.
How many can do that?
Maybe one hand maybe.
And I call on them and they'll you know, john 1 -1 I go but there's more you try verse 14 or whatever.
They don't know and i'll say okay.
Let me ask you some other questions.
This has happened a lot and I say how many believe jesus is a man right now?
And their hands are like 40 50 they don't know.
And i'll say how many why was jesus baptized?
Give me some give me some stuff, you know to identify with sinners.
You know, it's the most common thing.
I said no, you know, i'll tell them later.
No to fulfill all righteousness and fulfill a little bit of law.
And people don't know anything.
They don't know I said was it me to be justified?
They're not sure what to say.
What's the hypothetic union?
They don't know that term.
They should know.
I don't say communicate.
So few people know what that is.
But people just don't know and I have to go in and I have a thing I do called theology and sneakers.
Where I just relate different theology together.
I just start talking whatever comes to mind.
I just put it all together doctrine of trinity hypothetic union incarnation imputation propitiation
justification baptismal issues covenant just relate them all together and uh,.
And most people are really not impressed.
They go they go man.
I know this stuff.
How come no one teaches this?
I go exactly.
How come no one knows that?
Um two men to feel what has taken what is left is not the rapture.
They don't know What's happening in the world that they don't they don't know.
Part of it has to do with the concept of most.
I would assume that could be wrong.
Hopefully I am.
But there's this concept of the secret friendly church.
They define intellectualism in the context of What scripture calls is knowledge that's
boastful and yeah the knowledge of actually changes, right?
So and they have what he said therapeutic christianity.
Moralistic therapeutic.
I thought that's brilliant therapeutic christianity.
Solar feelings.
Almost as bad as solar hymnola.
I'm now i'm stepping on toes.
I've run into it where we started asking questions with that and we'll be told why are you guys getting so deep?
Yeah, you guys are getting way too deep.
You're you're being way too serious about with that.
It's it's it's simple.
To be honest like covet itself brought the churches to their knees because There are many people that
were not able to sufficiently Show scripture being able to even address
various issues.
My Situation was like I had a lot of issues.
I feel like god prepared me because I had a lot of issues already like at one point my mental issues
You know, but my dad died at one point and then Before
2020 hit my brother died, you know, so when that happened and he wasn't even a believer so like I
had It was issues.
So when kovat hit i've honestly Had a point where god was able to be sufficient.
So actually it was things where it made me dive into.
I I in a sense in a sense i'm kind of glad that we did go through this because it made us actually
have to find sufficiency in What god's word said to be obedient to right?
So like I feel like there's a level of Dealing with our comfort.
Well I I actually agree more of like if the holy spirit is our comforter anything that comforts us now
needs to be right.
Because philippians 129 says that god has granted that we believe but also that we'll suffer for his sake.
And so the therapeutic christianity like joel ostein.
You know, he's he's just a jerk.
I went to his church and I have film from my phone and I showed it to somebody recently and they go.
What is that a rock concert?
I don't know joel ostein's church.
I was at joel ostein's church.
I went into the bookstore, which is literally bigger than most churches.
Okay, the bookstore alone and I I was looking for systematic theology and I I got to the manager the
manager.
Uh, do you have any systematic theologies?
Wow, I said it's a book of theology that's arranged systematically.
They call it systematic theology.
Well, i'll go look.
Now 20 minutes later 20 minutes no, we don't have anything like that.
But I will say this when I came out of joel ostein's church I felt good.
I felt I felt uplifted.
How was the coffee?
I didn't have.
I didn't have any coffee.
But I felt good.
I think this I feel uplifted, you know.
I had a picture of me taking with my buddy who was there.
Had we took a picture of me standing next to the the great I am posters, you know, I am you know.
Yeah, it was a poster and he read a book.
I am something, you know.
Yeah the I am and he's using that name for a kind of a therapy
kind of a thing.
Is.
Yeah type of picture of me taken uh with that and um, let's just say whoa, you
know.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah, I can show it to you i've got it someplace but uh, let's see if I have no it's not there laredo.
I got so many stuff going on.
I.
It's supposed to be like sherman, but if they have like a joelstein on it goes charlatan.
Okay, i'm gonna ask are you all bored yet in the chat room.
If you have any questions let me know.
Was that little.
Little eschatology thing.
Fun.
I think i'm ready for like a little.
Depressed eschatology.
I can talk about it.
My wife has a question comment.
Um chuck says.
He's just wondering if you are contemplating closing down at the three hour mark
because we are almost there.
Three hour mark i'll close down.
And uh, because I think uh, we need to anyway, and then i'll just stay.
We just say you guys want to stay we can talk.
What do you want to do next week?
Depressed.
Eschatology.
Some more parables, okay do some more parables.
How about do some more parables because there's not that many more to get into and um, then uh,.
No one knows the day or the hour.
Well, that's easy.
Yeah, that's easy to do.
Yeah, no one knows the day of the hour.
It's a wedding feast relationship.
Yeah, let's see.
Culture again.
Culture.
And you know the remember the uh thing where the blind man says I see men walking
about as trees.
That's because what they would do in that culture is go walk up into the hills and take twigs and branches.
Put them into a big ball like six eight ten feet, uh thick wrap them up.
And they would crawl underneath and they would balance them and then they would walk them into town.
And they look like men walking like trees.
So things like that they did that.
Why why.
Big money.
Oh, it's all wood.
My.
Greek professors at seminary told me that told my class that no one knows the day or the hour
was.
Because jesus did not possess the incommunicable attributes while in the flesh.
Heresy.
That's heresy to not have the incommunicable attributes means that because attributes emanate out of the
essence.
So because a property is there it's because the essence is there if the property is not there.
It means the essence is not there.
The communic incommunicable attributes are necessary properties of god's essence.
So he was committing heresy and he's denying the true incarnation at this point.
So he needs to be rebuked severely.
No, no, that is heresy.
No, that's heresy his ignorance.
In fact, you need to find out about him and go back to the sun and say he taught this because he can't teach that.
That that is a serious heresy that could lead to be what's called a downable heresy.
In fact, I just got asked uh, someone wants me to get into a do an interview thing about the two natures of christ
as in annihilationism.
Because if the human nature ceases to exist upon death As annihilation some annihilationists teach then that
voids the hypostatic union which then avoids the person of christ.
Which then voids the sufficiency of the toning work.
So we're going to be talking about that.
I'm going to be naming names.
Okay, let's pray.
I'll close this out.
We'll pray and then Just down shut it down.
Shut it down.
And um.
It'll be that all right, and then we'll just okay lord jesus, thank you again for this day and thank you
for the The the wonder of your word and I asked lord that you would Cause what we have studied
and heard to sink deeper into our souls.
And that you lord would be glorified in our breath our thoughts and our deeds.
And that you would use us in spite of our frailties.
Jesus, thank you.
Please prepare people for next week and may you keep them safe and sound.
Uh, we ask this jesus your precious name.
All right, i'm ending broadcast everybody god bless.
We'll see, uh, it's two hours 59 minutes.
No, i'm gonna wait 30 more seconds.
So it's an even three hours.
All right, and uh, what i'm gonna do is this.
Show everybody in the room.
There we go, do you have any audio on me Captain.
All right, we're almost there 48 seconds.
Okay, there's charlie in the room.
My wife thinks you're better looking than I am.
So, uh, we got some talking.
We got some talking.
If I grow a beard and she says no more smooching.
All right, three hours even god bless everybody.
We'll see you.
Bye.