Book of Romans - Ch. 11, Vs. 11-26 (11/28/2004)

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Romans 11 11, I guess
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Dennis you'd not sitting where you usually sit is what confused me Who is this that come in speak up?
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Okay. Thank you Georgette I haven't asked a question yet And this is
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Bill All right,
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Romans 11 11. I Say then this is
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Paul speaking Have they stumbled That they should fall
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God forbid But rather through their fall salvation has come unto the
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Gentiles For to provoke them to jealousy Now he's going to deal with the
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Jew and The reason that they fell
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Of course, the reason they fell was unbelief But He says
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God forbid such a thought that they Broken off that they should fall
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What did he mean Dennis? All right,
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Russell, what does they mean when he says they were broken off All right.
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He's getting ready to move on to other people and he says through Their fall salvation has come unto the
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Gentiles Now could it not have come if they had not failed?
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Russell All right
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Then Greg he says for to provoke them to jealousy now, that's an earthly term
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What's he talking about? That's good
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Man is the object of grace The atonement is the effect of grace
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Christianity is entirely independent of man. That must be
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Clarence In Hebrews 5 and 12
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Greg turned to that and read for me Hebrews 5 12 13
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I guess that's all and The Hebrews 6 1 now read 2 3 4 & 5 6
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All right now turn to 1st Corinthians 3 2, please
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All right. He is Giving them as an example and in spite of the
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Bible in spite of the teaching and preaching Reading and understanding there are still
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Some people that all of their days they're trying to lay the foundation and Never able to build upon it
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They keep coming down to get saved Next revival that comes to town they come down and get saved
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Paul says move beyond that These people that are trying to lay the foundation
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The Reason is that they are mixing with the foundation stones
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That are only fit for the building Such as obedience duties removal of sins
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Now these are precious stones. All right But they are to build with Not to be used in the foundation
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The foundation is pure grace If anything of ourselves be mixed with it, and I mean anything
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Be mixed with grace in salvation. It utterly destroys grace
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Now let me say that again Maybe people don't think they're mixing with their salvation but Dennis If you mix anything with the
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Salvation that saved you with grace that saved you if you are of the belief that I have to do something
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It's not grace It's not grace at all
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You have not arrived yet God has not called you yet 12 now if the fall of them
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Be the riches of the world and the diminishing of them the riches of the
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Gentiles How much more their fullness? What does they mean
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Russell their fullness? All right
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Now what is meant when he's talking about riches Greg? All right
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Since the grace of God came to the Gentiles After the setting aside of the
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Israelites What about the Gentiles after the Jews reinstalled?
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Dennis well
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Clarence will the Gentiles and revert to the lost state and the
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Jews be in the forefront or what what does this mean? no,
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I Believe that the state of the Gentiles will be magnified
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Turn to Acts 15 16 if you will After this,
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I will return and will build again the tabernacle of David Which is fallen down and I will
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Build again the ruins thereof and I will set it up That the
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Residue of men might seek after the Lord and all the
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Gentiles upon whom my name is called Sayeth the
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Lord who doeth all of these things Now in 13
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He says I speak to the Gentiles. I Speak to them in as much as I am the
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Apostle of the Gentiles and I magnify my office What is he saying here
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Greg? Yes All right
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Bill was now Paul wrote Romans and He has just made the statement
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I magnify my office Was he doing and was he at the place that God wanted him?
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What yes, absolutely now God has a place for you
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How many believe that raise your hand All right.
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He has a place for you and You're in that place How many believe that so rejoice in it
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You are in the place that God wants you if he didn't want you here he'd move you on I believe that It's just as strong as I can 14
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If by any means I may provoke to emulation Them which are my flesh and might save some of them
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Paul was forever Speaking to the Jew when he went to a town.
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He went to the synagogue when he spoke in a Place wherever it was.
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He first talked talked to the Jew yet. He was the Apostle to the
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Gentile And he says that I might save some of them now
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Clarence that I might save some of them was
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Was this Speaking as Paul To save people was he saying
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I will talk to to all of them Which are my flesh that I might save some of them
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Did he do the saving all right
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That's right if by any means I might provoke to the emulation
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Them which are my flesh He was trying to provoke these people.
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What does provoke mean? Roger Russell All right
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That some of them would be saved Our greatest days lie ahead of us, how do
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I know that Dennis? Or do you agree with that? for if the casting away of them be the reconciling and Reconciling here means restoration of the world
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What shall the receiving of them be But life from the dead this is why
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I am convinced That it will just be greater. We will not be without Christ.
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We will not be cast aside but To draw in the
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Jew on it in earthly terms. It seems like he is making them jealous Not so In heavenly terms
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For if the firstfruits be holy If the firstfruits be holy or since the first fruit is holy, what's he talking about Russell?
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It's getting a little hot up here Well, let's go on.
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Maybe we can see For if the firstfruits be holy the lump is also holy
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Clarence what was the lump and If the root be holy so are the branches
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Now we've worked out to the branch Bill you can you be attached and growing from a root which is
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Christ Without yourself being holy No So your branch is holy.
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We are the branches He is the stem the stalk the root in fact, he's everything and it was some of the branches be broken off and Thou being a wild olive tree were grafted in among them and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree
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You and I benefit Because of the nation Israel we benefit because of the nation
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Israel This is one reason we should never be anti -semitic both not against the branches
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But if thou boast thou bearest not the root but the root beareth thee bill
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But if thou boast thou bearest not the root but the root beareth thee explain that verse
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Even though it looks like to you that we do But we don't
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We may rejoice in the Lord, but in such a way that we do not despise the
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Jew Whom we ought rather to encourage to join the good battle with us 19
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Thou will say then The branches were broken off that I might be grafted in Well because the of unbelief they were broken off So we see that they were broken off because they didn't believe
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They were broken off and thou standest by faith be not high -minded, but fear
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Because of unbelief Their unbelief was the cause of their rejection
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Thou standest by faith We stand by faith they were looking for something
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Continued faith in Christ and obedience to him And essentially to you
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Do not be high -minded Elated proud haughty fear walk humbly in the fear and love of God lest you too
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Be broken off and perish Men who have right views of God and his ways of themselves and their relation to him and Their fellow men will not to be proud haughty or curious
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But will be humble meek grateful and benevolent You don't take a haughty attitude because you're a
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Christian For if God spared and not the natural branches
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Take heed lest he also spare not thee We may observe his fear is not opposed to trust but to the pride and Security that we have don't get that way
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Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God on Them which fell severity but toward the goodness
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If thou continue in his goodness, otherwise thou also shall be cut off How improbable and unlikely how difficult and impossible so ever
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The Conversion and calling of the Jews to The Christian religion.
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It's almost impossible now Yet it's not left up to you and I and They also
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If they abide not still in unbelief Shall be grafted in for God is able to graft them in again
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Now if if you do not Well, let me go ahead the other way if you do believe
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Then you shall be grafted in We're not getting away from The Lord calling you if he calls you
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That overrides everything Individual Jews have been at all times.
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There's been Jews admissible and may have been admitted to the church
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Through the gate of faith and the Lord Jesus, this is the remnant that we're talking about 24 for if thou wert cut out of the olive tree, which is wild by nature and Wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree
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How much more shall these which be the natural branches? Be grafted into their own olive tree now
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I Want to know what he meant and We're grafted contrary to nature
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What do you see in that Greg All right
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I'm interested primarily in why he said and We're grafted contrary to nature
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Dennis all right.
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How do you graft a branch? I Suppose you got a pecan tree and you graft a branch into it well
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According to nature We graft the fruit branch into the wild stock
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But here the wild stock is grafted into the good root Contrary to nature
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You were grafted in contrary to nature you see that that's right
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That's right, we should not have been able to be grafted in and grow
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That's contrary to nature But we were That's right so it
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Yes, it Even nature itself is he's using something contrary to nature
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So we see Russell how improbable and impossible it would be for a person to save themselves
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You can do nothing. I Still say that the salvation of an individual is
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Entirely without his movement on any kind Or of any kind for I would not brethren that you should be
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Ignorant of this mystery Lest you should be wise in your own conceits
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That blindness in part is happened to Israel until the fullness of the
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Gentiles Come in Now only God knows only the
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Lord Jesus knows when this fullness is reached I'll say only
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God knows It is a mystery people spend all their life looking for a clue for a key to the mystery when the
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Lord will come back and The only reason is so they will know something that others don't
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Now we're not we're not given anything in regard to his second return
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Of this mystery Unattainable by mere human reason and Which has not hitherto been clearly revealed
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That the rejection of the Messiah by the Jew was to be only temporary and That when multitudes of the
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Gentiles should be converted to him then the
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Jew also Would acknowledge him and be again received as the people of God Now we know that's going to happen when we do not know
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It will be until the fullness of the Gentiles become in Until the fullness of the
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Gentiles become in What's that mean Greg? well
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What does it mean Dennis? All right, what's it mean to you bill and we don't know that number
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But he does Is Satan getting more active today than he was?
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Say 60 years ago Hundred years ago.
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All right What's the rest of you think? well
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You don't think are you? Russell well, it is happening.
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I read and I see every day. I Can't hardly read anymore, but I see every day on TV Awful things.
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Yes. Yes. Well, I Well, the news media cannot be believed
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They they accent the negative
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Instead of finding good. Let me read 26th verse
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And so all Israel shall be saved as it is written therefore
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There shall come out of Zion a deliverer And shall turn away the ungodliness from Jacob every living
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Jew at the time of the millennium Will be saved
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All of these verbs are passive. It means it's done to us Not by us
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We'll stop there Anyone want to make a comment?
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It's a real problem, but it's also a golden opportunity for us