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We're being delusional. Delusional? Delusional's okay in your worldview. I'm an animal.

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You don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your worldview is perfectly okay.

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Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the

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Be in prayer for that. So big week this week. Yes, it's been epic actually.

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What a week. Who'd have thunk it? All kinds of great things and also things, of course, we're gonna talk about that are, you know, it may feel great, but maybe not so great.

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It's been an exciting week and we are thankful for this little window of mercy we have in our nation.

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So much crazy stuff has happened. So before we get into today, we're gonna talk about Trump. We're gonna talk about the inauguration.

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We're gonna talk about some of the executive orders. We're gonna talk about cartels being called terrorists now, all kinds of stuff. Before we do,

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I want to update everybody who's part of this ministry with us and let you guys know what's going on. Important conversation.

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This session, as the year begins here, this session across the country, we have bills of abolition and equal protection happening across the country.

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I'm gonna bring you guys into this conversation if you're new to it. Through the duration of Roe v. Wade, the pro -life establishment, the pro -life industry, the pro -life machine was not working towards the abolition of abortion.

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It's because they have a different confession of faith, a different creed that they follow. They are not fundamentally

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Christian in their commitments, and they're not consistent. And so they have been playing around the edges of quote -unquote ending abortion with no intention ultimately to abolish it.

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If you want more detail on this, I encourage you guys to find the little mini documentary we did here right on Apologia Studios.

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It's called The Fatal Flaw. It's about 25 minutes long. It'll bring you into the whole conversation as to why the pro -life establishment is not working to end abortion.

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But through the duration of Roe v. Wade, they were playing around the edges, not working for abolition, not ultimately trying to abolish abortion.

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And in the last decade, because the church has risen up and faced this thing down, we started getting courageous legislators that were putting in bills of actual equal protection for all human beings from the moment of fertilization, equal justice for all.

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It started happening, and now we are in an awesome, awesome season. Of course,

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Roe v. Wade is out of the way. Abortion is not abolished in any state in our nation.

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We have a ways to go, and I want to encourage everyone to know that right now we have bills of abolition happening across the country.

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A couple of them already filed. Our good friend, Lovem, he is just an amazing man of God, very consistent.

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Dusty Deavers in Oklahoma just dropped the bill of equal protection in the state of Oklahoma. We have a bill dropped in the state of Indiana.

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There's a bill dropped in South Carolina, a bill dropped in North Dakota. And are we doing, is it

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House and Senate, or is it? In North Dakota? Yeah. Just House, I believe. Just House, okay. So we got one in the House in North Dakota.

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Texas is supposed to be dropping, I think, next week. Ohio, Ohio, big fight happening,

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Ohio. Good things happening, Ohio. I'm gonna be providing updates on my X account and Facebook account as to what's, where you can participate, how you can get involved in all of these.

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I'll give you more details for End Abortion Now support, how you guys can be involved. You can actually follow Jeff on X now.

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Yes, exactly. I set up an X account specifically for the issue of abolishing abortion and being able to communicate there more freely because it's getting suppressed on YouTube and Facebook, and so that's where you get information as things are ongoing.

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But Ohio, for those of you guys that are in Ohio, or you're in Kentucky, and you want to be a part of what's happening to help there or surrounding states,

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I am partnering up with Michael Foster, Pastor Michael Foster, Pastor Michael Clary, and we are having an all -hands -on -deck meeting.

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We've done some meetings already with pastors and leaders in Ohio. We've got a bill dropping very, very soon in Ohio, and so we're doing an all -hands -on -deck meeting.

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This is an open invitation. So the other ones were closed off to pastors and leaders. This is an open invitation.

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Pastors, leaders, Christians from all over Ohio, come meet with me and Pastor Michael Foster, Pastor Michael Clary in Ohio.

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That is going to be on February the 4th. That's Tuesday, I believe.

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Yeah, Tuesday, February 4th. It is 530 p .m. at East River Church. That's Pastor Foster's church in Batavia, Ohio.

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From what I understand, it's about half an hour away from Cincinnati. That's where I'm gonna kind of be based while I'm there that week.

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And so February the 4th, 530 p .m. Batavia, Ohio, East River Church.

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Come and meet with us. Come and spend some time with us. We're gonna fill you in on all the details. We're gonna try to get everyone together as to what's going on in Ohio.

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So please join us there if you've got friends and other Christians you know in Ohio. Let them know about the event and let them know to show up.

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We're very excited to be partnering together with Pastor Foster and Pastor Clary in Ohio and of course all the other pastors that have already participated with us and are on the same team as us.

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Iowa is coming soon. Yeah, I just got word they're just waiting for the bill to come back with some tweaks.

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Excellent. Iowa's coming soon. Georgia, our bill of equal protection in Georgia is dropping very soon.

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We have so much great, great support in the state of Georgia. The guys at G3, Josh Bice, Virgil Walker, all those dudes, great men.

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And Georgia Right to Life is on our side and a part of the team. Great pastors, great leaders in Georgia.

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It is phenomenal what God has accomplished there in a short period of time. And so that's coming very soon as well.

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Be in prayer that we get a hearing and be in prayer this thing gets to the floor so we can establish justice to the pre -born. I'd say

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North Dakota already has a hearing date, February 6th, 9 a .m. I believe that's central time that we have a committee hearing.

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The nice thing about North Dakota is it has to have a committee hearing and a floor vote as well. So we will, we're planning on being out there having a rally whenever the it goes to the floor, so stand by.

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So we, yeah, we're gonna be in all these states. We're gonna try to get meetings and rallies either before the hearing depending on like if it's necessary for us to do that at the hearing, but certainly before it goes to the floor.

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And so we're gonna be very busy and we're gonna need your help and support. So we'd encourage you not to look at this and view this as an onlooker and say, well, that's great.

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I'm just gonna sort of stand by and pray and hope it all goes well. I want to encourage you all to join together with us, partner with us in this.

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This is not our thing. We're just Christians. We're just a local church working together with the Christians across the country, pastors and Christian organizations across the country.

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This is the work of the church. It doesn't belong to us. We are just participating and fellow workers with you.

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And so really want to ask you for your help. We need your help. So if we're coming to your state for a bill that's in your state, just remember something.

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It's not our state. We're in Arizona. It's your state. And so we would love for you to participate with us in this and to help us to fight for justice for the pre -born.

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The expectation is 20 states, more or less. Yeah, that is nearly half the states in our country.

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That's right. That's incredible to me. Yeah. It's an amazing moment we're in, everybody. It's an amazing moment.

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So be in prayer. And if you could, please, please, please pray, of course, for the work of End Abortion Now.

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If you are not yet signed up with your church to go save lives at the abortion mills, go to EndAbortionNow .com.

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Sign up to get the free training and all the free resources. We don't want anything from your church. We just want to bless your church and help you guys to save lives.

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But if you can, if you can, please go to EndAbortionNow .com to give financially. As you can probably imagine, it is quite expensive to pull off this many states.

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Some organizations operate in a single state. They have a singular focus and they have a budget of millions upon millions upon millions of dollars.

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We have a budget of, what was ours for this year, 1 .5? 1 .5 million and we're trying to support other organizations with bills of abolition and we have our own that we've been able to get in and it's just it's a lot of work and we just we do need your financial help.

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And so please give at EndAbortionNow .com to help us to meet our budget and as we always say so we can end this injustice and this tyranny and never ask for another penny again.

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We're not trying to start a business here or organization. We'd like to be able to end this thing, walk away and get on to the next thing.

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And so that's what we're doing. So exciting week. Look, all of us obviously were on pins and needles when when the election was taking place between Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump.

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All of us, I think, recognized just how important this next election was and everybody always says, right, like this is the most consequential.

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What election is that not said? This is the most consequential election of our lifetime.

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Every single time. Every single time they say it, but I feel like this time there was a lot to it.

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There was a lot to that and that's just because of how rapidly the government descended into so much evil and tyranny and on a number of levels,

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I mean, on a number of levels. But, you know, one of the things that's just really encouraging to me as we get into some of these clips here is you know, it was private platforms that really again ran this election and won this election.

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It was like that in 2016 and that's why Google and Facebook and YouTube and all these platforms got together after that election in 2016 between Hillary and Donald Trump.

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And they said, how did this happen? How did legacy media get it so wrong? They were for sure that Clinton was going to win this thing.

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And as they dissected the problem, they realized that it was these private platforms that ran the election.

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That's who everyone was really listening to. They weren't listening to legacy media and all that stuff. And so then they killed those guys, you know, they immediately killed

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Alex Jones and a number of people. But this time it was the same way. It was really the same way.

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People got their information from their trusted sources and they listened to them. I mean, amazing to think that Joe Rogan was so consequential in the last election.

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Huge. I mean, just the views of his interview with President Donald Trump and Vance in 24 hours.

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And Sean Ryan, too. Yeah, in 24 hours the views on Donald Trump and Joe Rogan were tens of millions over against like legacy media stuff, even on the debates, even on the presidential debates, it just squashed it.

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And so people are just getting their information from other sources. But you know, it's just incredible to me even thinking about like Elon Musk's role in the last election,

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Joe Rogan's role in the last election, Tucker Carlson's role in the last election.

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It was just a really, really amazing time. And I think an encouraging thing to see that, you know, private citizens can have a massive impact, a massive impact on your own startup.

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You know, just the power of the technology that we have now today and to have a platform to speak to issues.

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It's been awesome. But I mean, obviously all of us were in pins and needles because things were looking real bad.

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And you know, a great example of that, and then I'll pass it on to you guys here, a great example of that to me is just in what we're seeing with President Trump now pardoning some of our friends, you know, the people who have stood outside of abortion clinics and the rescuers, people who were sentenced to jail prison sentences and, you know,

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Beverly. We had Beverly on our program years ago and she's all over the news right now because she's getting pardoned.

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She was sentenced to what, three years? Bevelyn. Bevelyn. Bevelyn. Sorry, my bad. Bevelyn. She was sentenced to three years,

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I believe, and she's getting released. Young mom. But how did that take place? Because of how consequential this election was is because you had the

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Biden regime, so wicked, the Justice Department, so wicked, the FBI, so wicked.

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He was deploying these military agencies against private citizens for these sorts of things and the punishment was severe.

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Lila Rose just announced that Trump has just pardoned 23 pro -life activists. Not sure if that's everyone.

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All right. Consequential election. So he's signing more executive orders right now and I'm missing it.

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And we're going to get into the whole executive order thing in just a moment here. But look,

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I'm thankful and I know we're still dealing with people attacking us because we didn't tell anybody to vote for Trump.

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We just said you can't. I intentionally did not. Yeah, you can't.

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Our position was we're not into the Trump idolatry and Trump worship and all the rest and Messiah complex kind of stuff.

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But what we were saying was, yes, Trump is extremely compromised on the issue of abortion and inconsistent completely.

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But if you're to force on other Christians the idea that because he's inconsistent in that area, you can't vote for him, my point was he's inconsistent in a lot of areas of the law of God.

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And so if you were to say, if he was an abolitionist, I'm going to vote for him because he's an abolitionist.

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I'd say what about all the other problems he has with the law of God and the injustices, the things that he doesn't want to condemn.

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And so that's all we were saying. And we're saying vote with your conscience and do what you do to the glory of God. All we're saying is that we're grateful ultimately for this window of mercy.

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That's my main thing right now is I'm really thankful. And this point, this is what

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I was trying to get at. Don't waste it. The consequence of all of this activity, these private platforms pushing back against all the crazy, disgusting,

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LGBT, transgender, gay mirage, filth, and forcing everybody to accept it or get shut down, shadow banned, and all the rest of that crap that has happened over the last couple of years.

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I mean, we were skating on thin ice. We were skating on thin ice the last four years.

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I mean, we'd have to change the descriptions we put in, our things. I had to do a sermon on when

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I was talking about the vaccines. I had to not use the word vaccine in my sermon and called them

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Joe's cookies because we're skating on thin ice because they'll shut you down, shadow ban you, cancel you. And now you have

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Mark Zuckerberg on Joe Rogan and he's praising masculinity.

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And he's already, in the last couple of weeks since the Joe Rogan episode, killed a bunch of DEI stuff and transgender stuff.

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What did he take out of the bathrooms? Tampons. He took tampons out of the men's bathrooms. It's just awesome.

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Whether or not he really believes it, whatever. At least he did it.

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And it's a sign that pressure does yield. If you fight back, it produces fruit.

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Right. Yeah, and look, I'm with you. Do I think he really believes it? I'm not convinced.

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I'm not convinced totally, but it'd be great if he does. But on the other hand, even if he doesn't believe it completely, he realizes the pressure and he has to respond to the pressure of the public.

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And I like that. And I like that. So, you know, I pray for his salvation and I hope the heart change is genuine.

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He needs Christ ultimately, but we're in a good place. I feel like for the next four years, we're going to be able to say a lot more.

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A lot more. I mean, even on Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg saying, we're going to open up free speech on Facebook again is like, that's a big deal because guys, you know, we used to be able to put up a video on abortion in 2015 -16.

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It'd get a hundred thousand views, like smooth sailing. In 24 hours, you could put a video of us outside the abortion mill and it would go nuts, bananas.

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It impacted a lot of people. They got to see it. And that's what actually helped in abortion. Now, people are going, oh, you can save lives at the abortion mill because they saw the content.

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We were putting out, and this is why I started an ex account. We were putting out content, anything related to quote pro -life or abolition.

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And what do we have on YouTube? We have like almost 600 ,000 subscribers.

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And we'd put up anything related to abortion content. We had like 15 people watching live. So we're being suppressed.

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We're being shadow banned. You can't talk. And especially Facebook for the last four years, Isaac and I would talk, it's like not even worth putting it up on Facebook because it's gonna be seen by 20 people if we mentioned anything to do with abortion.

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So am I grateful for this moment? I think it's delicious. I think it's delicious.

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It's a delicious moment. And I can't wait because it means that we're going to be able to reach more people now. They're not going to be able to shadow ban, shut down our stuff like they were doing.

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So I'm thankful. I think time will tell too, like what the, if they lift off the clamps too.

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And if the, you know, the water continues to flow in the stream. But I think to your point about the, you know, the private podcasts and all that stuff, man, it was just so instrumental.

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I think in a soundbite culture, people are hungry for substance. And those platforms provide that long form conversations, people unable to manipulate the media to make themselves look better than what they are or make them look like they have more substance than they do.

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Just not possible to hide on those platforms. And, you know, Trump doing those interviews going on, man,

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I, you have to imagine that that pulled him over the finish line and somehow,

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I mean, it helped him get there. And I think people looked at that and they said, this guy's willing to be grilled for three hours straight and, and to have answers and to talk about his plan and the other side, not so much.

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Yeah. Well, I think people are finally getting tired of just the, the fakeness, you know, of legacy media and the blatant, you know, lies and propaganda.

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Like people are just tired of it. Rather, I think on both sides of the aisle, even on the left, I think you saw that dish, this last cycle, what was it like CNN and MSNBC, like all of those, they were just tanking.

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Like no one cared what they were saying. That was the other point too, is like the, the stupidity, like the, the extreme fringe, like trans stuff and all that thing, all that ideology that hasn't quite seeped into the cultural consciousness yet, like abortion and those types of things have, like, it was pushed so hard on people.

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And then to the point where you even have like the old school Democrats being like, I don't know about that.

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Like, that's a little far, you know? And, and, and when they're coming out and saying that's a bit extreme, that's a bit fanatic, you know, that the leftists have kind of, they got real greedy.

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Yeah. They got real power hungry. Overconfident. And they overplayed their hand. And people saw that.

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And as the saying goes, stupidity doesn't work, but they doubled down on their insanity. And I think that even brought a lot of what they would call common sense laden people out of the woodwork to see, okay, we have the room to switch sides here.

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Politically speaking and go for something that we believe is going to create a nation in which we all can thrive.

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Yeah. And so that created enough of a window, so to speak, where you have enough people pulling in the same direction to get him over the finish line.

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Yeah. If you have, if you have a, your regime creates an environment that makes even your followers suffer, eventually your followers are going to start looking the other direction and going, oh, the grass is definitely greener over there.

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It actually is greener. And I'm going to have lower costs. I'm going to have more money.

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I'm going to be able to secure borders. I'm going to be able to provide for my loved ones. And as much as I may be attached to this ideology over here, practically speaking,

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I'm going to live better over here. Especially if you're a young man asking these questions. That's right. Like what environment is going to allow me to do that?

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Yeah. That's exactly right. I mean, it was probably a no brainer for most ordinary people. Yeah, absolutely.

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So man, there's just so much to talk about. You're seeing cool things. Like, you know, obviously you have the talk about the external revenue service and even conversations

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I saw this morning going around, like breaking news, like there's conversations are happening now about abolishing the

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IRS. And I'm just like, I'll tell you what. Please God. I'll tell you what. Please God.

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I'll tell you what. I'm begging you. Yeah. I'll tell you what, if that happens, man, it may be kind of the golden age.

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It's going to be time to celebrate. Oh boy. We'll have a special episode just for that one. Yeah. That's worth celebrating.

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Oh man. So, okay. All right. Here we go. You guys are all, you're all in this with us. We're going to play through clips, have some fun together, everybody.

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So this, I wanted to start with this one. President Trump attends the National Prayer Service at the

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National Cathedral. This was the day of the inauguration. Boy, that man was busy that day. Oh my goodness.

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Yes. I'll tell you what, man. Maybe we all need to switch to a diet of McDonald's and Diet Cokes or something because something magical in his step.

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This is the one where you had like Garth Brooks performing Imagine. Yeah. And like, and then they sing

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Amazing Grace. It's like the two antithetical songs. Like, oh no, no, no, no.

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Sorry. That was Carter. That was at Carter's funeral. Yeah. That was Carter's funeral. I remember that.

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Totally weird. And did you guys see the Billy Ray Cyrus performance at the night of the inauguration?

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Did he do the achy breaky heart? I'm sitting there and I'm watching it. I'm going, am I the only one seeing this?

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Like, is he, something's really, I'm going to leave it at that. Something was not right.

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And it was, all I'm going to say is go watch the Billy Ray Cyrus performance from the inauguration. It's just like something is, something doesn't look healthy here.

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And that's all I'll say about that. But anyway, so it was a wild day. He did like three balls that night and presidential balls.

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And then he had the different places he appeared and talked throughout the day and signed executive orders.

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The man, how old is he? He's like in his seventies. Seventy five, maybe. Man, he's got some energy.

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Boy, he's got some energy. All right, here we go. Unity is relatively easy to pray for on occasions of great celebrity.

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It's a lot harder to realize when we're dealing with real differences in our private lives and in the public arena.

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But without unity, we're building our nation's house on sand.

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With a commitment to unity that incorporates diversity and transcends disagreement, and with the solid foundations of dignity, honesty, and humility that such unity requires, we can do our part and in our time to realize the ideals of the dream of America.

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Let me make one final plea. Mr. President. So this this, by the way,

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I did not see this. This Vance's facial expression. Well, I heard about it, but I didn't see it.

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So the benefit of watching it this way is to see their faces the entire time. OK, so that's good. But I would

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I would encourage you to go check out the one where it shows the. Lady pastor.

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That's the nice way you were going to say, let's be honest. I was going to say a dyke. Let's be honest. Let's be honest.

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Well, all right. A, you should not have a woman pastor. That's the violation of scriptural standards.

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And this is exhibit A as to why you should not have a lady pastor. And of course, not one like this.

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You know, just go watch the video. The woman, of course, is just a charlatan and a false teacher, obviously.

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But we get to at least watch all our faces here. So listen to what she says. Like if you had the opportunity as a faithful Christian to stand in front of the president and the vice president at an important day like this, like what would your message be?

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Oh, man, it's a big deal. It's a big deal. And who invited her? Anyway, that's what I want to know. I want to know how this snuck in is my question.

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Who planned the schedule and got this woman? And let's be honest.

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It was a let's be honest. It wasn't a good.

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Was there a Muslim dude, too? I heard there was all kinds of everything. It's very ecumenical and all the things.

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But I mean, if you were a faithful Christian, you had the opportunity to stand before President Trump and Vice President Pence. Why did

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I say Pence? Vance. There you go. They do sound similar. So yeah, Vance. What would your message be?

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It would have to be. It would have to be very, very focused upon the authority of God's word, the authority of Jesus Christ to be about the gospel.

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It wouldn't be this mush. And here we go. We get to watch their faces. So. Look at their faces.

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The creases and Vance's forehead. Look at that face. It's perfect. Perfect place to stop.

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That would be my face. Just such dissatisfaction. No, you did not.

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That's just shame on you. Shame, shame, shame on you. Do you have his tweet?

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I'll pull it up. Pull it up. He has to read the tweet. Go ahead. I got to finish. Oh, did he tweet about this? Oh, I saw the tweet before I saw what was even said.

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Man. I mean, just using the pulpit to make a politically driven statement like this, that is.

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To say gay, lesbian and transgender children are scared. They're scared right now.

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Scared. Scared. Like, are people threatening their lives?

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Like, don't worry. It's going to be better for them overall than certainly anything that you all would have done.

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Exactly. Exactly. You're welcome. You're the one ruining their lives with this nonsense.

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Okay, so let's keep going. Some who fear for their lives. And the people.

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The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meat packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals.

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Yeah, look at him. Look at his wife. I can't believe this is happening. This is nonsense.

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This is nonsense. Honey, can we stand up? Should I leave? Yeah. Should I get up? Should I walk out of here?

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I mean, you got to. I mean, Trump's doing a pretty good job of controlling his facial expressions here.

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Yeah. Yeah. Vance is having a little harder time keeping it together. That's what I would be doing.

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I mean, I don't know. Is it appropriate for the president to walk out of the service at that time?

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That would be a statement. It would be a huge statement. He should have done it. All right, here we go. They may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.

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They pay taxes and are good neighbors. They are faithful members of our churches and mosques, synagogues.

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I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear that their parents are taken away and that you help those who are fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome.

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How God teaches us that we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we all want strangers in this land.

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May God grant us the strength and courage to honor the dignity of every human being.

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I wonder if she really believes that, because I ask her, you know, if I had a chance to cross -examine her and say, honor every human being, how do you feel about abortion?

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Yeah, exactly. I'd ask her about that. How do you feel about the issue of abortion? So if you really want us to have, you know, equal standards for all human beings, all human beings, every human being.

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Hey, but you got to give it to her. And forgive me for being so blunt here. She's got more balls than most evangelical pastors.

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And what I mean by that is that she - You're just trying to get us in trouble today.

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Well, no, no, I'm saying - I'm not upset with you. Okay. Think about the standard evangelical pastor, people even that have been around President Trump for years, right?

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Who have had the opportunity to really, really impress upon him the authority of Christ and the word of God, and to encourage him to obey scripture.

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So many times you get in front of these political people, these powerful people, and you just get so scared just to tell the truth.

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And so many evangelical pastors have been around President Trump and not been willing to just say even the tough things, the hard things, the prophetic things.

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So I'm not just trying to be controversial here. When I say that she's got more balls than evangelical pastors, she is coming from a foreign worldview, pretending to be a minister of the gospel.

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And she stands up in front of the president right here at the inauguration day. And she's got the strength, courage to simply say her worldview to the point where everybody who watches this is cringing.

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In that room, it must've just been everybody tightening up. This is so cringey, but she's got courage.

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She's not worried about coming across as mean -spirited. Exactly. So as much as she's an evil woman and obviously not a minister of the gospel, certainly not a bishop, not a pastor, and she's definitely got a lot of courage to be able to fight and stand for her worldview.

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So what I'm saying is any evangelical pastor, a Christian pastor that gets around the president, I hope they have the same kind of nerve.

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Well, I was going to say, one, the 23 did include everyone. So Dennis Green, Gabe's dad, that's everyone.

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But I mean, the fact that she's talking about persecution, but she claims that there's transgender kids in mosques.

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I don't think that that doesn't jive. You're talking about persecuting homosexuals.

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They're the one killing homosexuals in other countries. I don't think that that jives in that statement. All of this is meaningless apart from God's law.

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What does mercy look like without God's law? Does it look like letting children destroy their bodies, cause irreversible damage so that they can't have children one day?

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Does it look like carving up young people, mutilating their genitals?

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Like what would mercy look like to that person? Or what would mercy look like in a righteous standard of God's law being upheld that a nation has a duty to protect first its own people, its own citizens before foreigners?

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Yep. I think that's more along the lines of what would it look like. This is just kind of the, it's the empathy devoid of any kind of standard.

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It's that untethered, it's that empathy that's untethered from God's law. So it ends up being unmerciful, hateful, and meaningless altogether.

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Yeah, exactly. I can't find that tweet I was looking for. That's all right. So on the subject of illegal immigration, we should talk about that in terms of a

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Christian worldview. So I think what's important for us is to talk about the heart of the issue, people coming into the nation and becoming members of our community and making this their home.

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Of course, you see in scripture, like the strangers and the aliens, we're supposed to love them, care for them, bless them, be merciful to them.

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There's supposed to be one standard of justice for the people of Israel and the aliens and strangers among them.

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We're not supposed to have two standards, no partiality. And that's actually something unique with biblical religion and biblical faith is that statement in scripture that you have to have one standard of justice for the

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Israelite and for the foreigner among them. Exodus 12, I think it is. That's a key beautiful thing from the biblical worldview.

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However, what's important to note as people try to pull verses like strangers and aliens and caring for those who are among them like that is they neglect the fact that strangers and aliens were not welcome into Israel without committing to abiding to the law of God and the laws of the people of Israel.

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In other words, people weren't allowed to come into Israel and disregard the laws of Yahweh and set up temples and to worship and sacrifice to false gods within Israel's borders.

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Rape women. Yeah, if you wanted to come into Israel, you had to covenant together with the people of God there and commit to honoring the laws of Yahweh that were there and present.

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So you weren't allowed to come in and be subversive. And that's a key issue when we talk about the border issue and immigration in America.

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America is a nation. It's a nation that has a law and it has a foundation in the constitution.

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People shouldn't be allowed, and this is according to biblical principles, to come into this nation who don't agree with the laws of this nation and covenant to actually say,

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I believe that, I uphold it. So I'll give you an example of what I mean by that. Over the years, I've been able to talk to people who have come into our nation as immigrants and they are working towards citizenship.

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And one time I was talking to somebody who was in the process, the very long process of citizenship, and I got to ask a lot of questions like, well, what do you have to do?

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And there was all these different meetings and you had to study and take classes. And I got a chance to take a look at the book that you have to study.

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And I went through this book and I was like, this is amazing. This is a better education on the constitution and the

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Bill of Rights than I got in school. Yeah, exactly. Our youth need that. And it was all these descriptions of what the amendments mean, what they do, why they're in place, where they came from, the constitution, meaning of different amendments, all these different things.

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And I was like, this is amazing. You have to learn this. You have to learn it. You have to learn it. You have to be able to answer it properly.

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And when you put your hand up to swear an oath as a citizen, you have to agree to all of that. That's a meaningful path into immigration and citizenship because you're covenanting with the nation saying,

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I agree with the laws of this nation. I know why they're in place. I want to uphold them myself.

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I agree. I covenant together with this nation and you're becoming a citizen. So the idea that we should let people into this nation to subvert the laws of the nation or who don't agree with the traditions and the laws of this nation, it's a fallacious form of reasoning.

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And of course, it just means the destruction of a nation. You can't have a community that doesn't agree with the law of the land or it's going to collapse.

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Talk about a house built on sand. That's what she mentions. By the way, if you want to quote that, let's quote it in its fullness and talk about what

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Jesus was saying there. House is built on sand. Anyway, another discussion.

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So the issue of illegal immigration from a Christian perspective, I think we have to have the same principles in place that Israel had in place.

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You have a standard that's the same, no partiality, no unequal weights. It's the same for the Israelite and for the foreigner among them, the stranger among them.

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But if you were a stranger and a foreigner, you had to come into agreement with the laws of that land.

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You couldn't be subversive. And the problem with just this flow of immigrants into the nation that is let across the border is that, like Trump has said, he's right about that.

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You're letting criminals, you're letting rapists, you're letting murderers, you're letting terrorists across the border. People come into here like the guy, the

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Guatemalan immigrant who was caught once, thrown back, and then came across again, went to New York, sanctuary thing. He's getting fed.

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He's getting housed for free. And then just decides, this is like during Christmas time, just decides in the subway to light an old lady on fire who's just sitting on the subway and just watch her burn to death.

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I saw the whole video. It was horrific. It was horrific. It was chaos.

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Absolute chaos. Or, you know, and it's a terrible story, is that suburban mom who goes for her daily run.

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She's got five children. She runs around her neighborhood. I think about my wife in that respect. Like my wife wanted to just get in shape and run around the neighborhood.

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I can't let my wife run around the neighborhood right now I can't let her run around the neighborhood by herself because of stories like this.

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This suburban mom running around the neighborhood, five kids, goes to run around the neighborhood. She gets raped and then murdered.

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Just going on a run around her neighborhood. Or the 12 -year -old girl, Jocelyn, that is going to the convenience store for some snacks or whatever.

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And then she gets brutally raped and then murdered by a bunch of people who were here illegally.

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And these are the consequences of letting people in who do not agree to the laws of your land and who have not ultimately been vetted.

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And so in principle, we should not be allowing just an open border thing where people pour in and they can say, you know, to heck with your laws.

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I don't agree with your laws. I don't agree with your history. I don't agree with your traditions. Less barbarians. And then even people with just fundamentally different religious commitments.

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Like it's going to produce something else. Like those religious commitments can't exist and coincide with religious commitments that are completely opposed to them.

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I think you're seeing that in places like Britain right now. The UK, right? Just an undisclosed amount of Muslim immigrants.

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And then you have just complete upheaval taking place. Like culturally rolling back the

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UK from its roots. And you just have chaos. You have destruction. You have crime. You have all manner of disorder because you have rival religions existing side by side.

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And secularism was kind of that in -between phase, right? So it's like the Christian worldview and it's kind of fading onto secularism.

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But then something rushes in to fill that void. Yeah. And it's Islam, right? And to that point, you can have people that come into your nation, try to subvert it, start to perpetrate crimes and do all these evil things.

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And then the government there goes, hey, hey, we don't allow that here. What do you think you're doing? And then the immigrant who never agreed in the first place said,

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I never said I agreed with that. Never said I would abide by that. And that's the problem is that you have to have people who raise their hands and they make an oath.

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They covenant together. They say, I swear before God that I agree with this. I want to uphold this.

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I believe these things. And they're essentially, they're giving you their oath that I'm with you on these things.

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You need that oath. Now, are people gonna lie at times? Sure, they're gonna lie. But what percentage of that? Like you're gonna have the mass of people saying, no,

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I fully agree with that. And that's the good thing about immigration done properly with biblical principles is that you're gonna have the majority of people who would say,

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I love this nation. I love its history. I love its culture. I love its laws. That's what

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I want for my future generations is I want them to be this. And you just can't have this.

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So I think it's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a biblical thing. When you have a president coming in saying, these people have not agreed to covenant together with our nation.

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It's time for them to be let go. And so here's another clip of some of that taking place.

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There's some language here. Is there? What is the Fox News one? Is this, is there language? Maybe. It's bleeped.

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Okay, all right. Here we go. And I'm not going back to Haiti. One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti.

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ICE says he's a gang member with 17 criminal convictions in recent years. You feel me?

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Yo, Biden forever, bro. Thank Obama for everything that he did for me. Biden forever, bro. ICE Boston quickly takes down its next targets, including this illegal alien from Brazil who has an

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Interpol red notice for armed robbery. This Salvadoran illegal alien charged locally with rape and released by a sanctuary jurisdiction.

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And this Dominican. See, that is just insane to me. 17 recent convictions.

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That's insane to me. Charged locally with rape and then released. Yeah, I, when

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I, when they were having the debates, you know, there was one with Biden with Kamala and there's still lies they were saying about the immigration thing.

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We're just mad. I mean, we're unique in that we're on a border state, right? Like we have members of our church that work for ICE.

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I know what's actually been going down at the border and then hearing them just flat lie about it. You know, they're just literally like people coming in and they're giving them cell phones saying, all right, take your information.

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We'll call you in like five weeks or whatever. Like, and they're just letting them in. And, you know, there was actual trash cans at the border.

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They give them a cell phone and these people will just throw their cell phones away. And they're just collecting all these, like, just like crazy stuff.

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So, you know, and they, and a lot of these really, really bad guys that were coming through, they, we knew who they were.

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We knew where they had been. So some of the guys we were stopping, like they're really, really, really bad ones. But majority of guys like this are just like, come across.

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We'll fly you to Chicago. Yeah, exactly. Here we go. Legal alien charged with assault with a deadly weapon and heroin trafficking.

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Officers also arrested this Guatemalan MS -13 gang member facing gun charges.

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ICE says he was released from local custody just the day before. Their detainer request was ignored because of sanctuary policies.

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And in a sign of shifting priorities with the new Trump administration, this man who was in the same apartment as the target was also arrested after ICE determined he's also in the

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U .S. illegally. This is what ICE calls collateral. All right. So, good things.

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It is a good thing. Now, of course, we don't want people to misunderstand in terms of, you know, not showing concern for the collateral damage at times from these people who have come in illegally and have children now here, and, you know, those sorts of things.

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Of course, you know, we want to show compassion towards those people and their situations. But, you know, the answer is, your eye shall not pity.

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When it comes to the standard of justice in scripture, the answer is your eye shall not pity. And I think part of the problem that we've had to engage with over this last generation is a justice system that is just filled with so much pity.

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You know, we pity these people. I was just watching... Empathy. I was just watching... Toxic empathy.

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I love to watch interrogation videos and people getting caught. It's one of my favorite things. Like, if I have free time,

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I'm like, oh, I'll have an interrogation video playing in the background with some serial killer or somebody gets caught. That's just weird.

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I love it. Talk to someone about your issues. It's so much fun. I went to dinner with Michael Foster in Cincinnati, and it turns out he's exactly like me.

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As soon as I brought it up, he goes, oh yeah, have you seen this one? Have you seen this one? We're like sharing back and forth different interrogations that are our favorite ones.

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He's a fanatic like me. Y 'all weirdos. But yesterday

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I was listening in the background as I was doing some stuff. I was listening to the Chris Watts interrogation stuff.

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And then I ended up playing some stuff from the sentencing. Chris Watts was the guy who killed his pregnant wife and his two daughters and disposed of them like they were trash.

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And there's so much video of the next day when they were looking for them and then police come, there's body cam footage of them searching the house.

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And Chris Watts just looks like he looks guilty. He's like sweating and putting his hands over his head.

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Like, oh gosh. And anyways, on the subject of your eye shall not pity, one of the things that just grieved me was at his sentencing, this man murdered.

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And they said that how he did his wife would have taken minutes. So like when she was being killed by him, it was like this long drawn out process.

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He didn't even do it quickly. And so like her last minutes moments were suffering with the man she went to the altar with and who promised to love her and care for her.

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And then he murders his two daughters. And like I said, just disposes of them like garbage.

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So then at the sentencing, the family had requested of the prosecution, no death penalty because they had some crazy unbiblical idea of like, nobody's allowed to take human life.

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He wasn't allowed and you're not allowed, Your Honor, to take innocent human life or to take human life.

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It's like, well now no one is allowed to take innocent human life, but scripture mandates that you do execute people who take innocent life.

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And so I was just so, so grieved, like listening to the horrific things that he did.

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And then the judge not giving him the death penalty because like, oh, we're gonna pity this guy.

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Like he murdered his wife and his unborn baby and his two daughters with just so much malice and evil.

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And it was all so he could get with a new woman that he was committing adultery with and just took them out like they were garbage.

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But we're gonna pity him because we value human life. And it's like, that's the problem with the justice system.

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I think the judge should have rejected it. A good judge would say, I understand how you feel, you guys are all in pain, but my duty is to do justice here and I will do that.

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He took innocent human life, a number of them. And so he will lose his life. And first degree murder in the

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Bible, that is the crime that the death sentence is the only thing that can bring harmony for that in God's law, first degree murder.

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I mean, there aren't a lot of things that are just blanket death penalty, but that's the one.

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When someone shows such a callous disregard for human life, like that's the response that God's servant is required to mete out.

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That's right. So my point there is it is a problem that our justice system operates on so much pity and that's not justice.

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If you operate based upon pity, then what you're gonna get is injustice many, many times over.

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The justice system is to be concerned with justice and not with pity. And God says it explicitly, your eye shall not pity.

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Pity who? The one who is truly guilty. You can't pity them. You have to just do what's right. You have to do what's right in God's eyes and not fear men.

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Well, it's the admonition too is to purge the evildoer. Yes. From your midst, right? We're talking about, this is the language of blood guiltiness, right?

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There's been a blight upon the community and the social fabric by this taking of innocent life.

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And so purge them. They shed innocent blood, so their blood will be shed.

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And all of that does point to the gospel. It does point to Christ, but getting those jurisdictions and those spheres right of what the state is actually in charge of and what their job is, that's the key that's missing.

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Well, let's just be honest too, those that are not everyone, but those liberal politicians who are calling for us to pity all these people, they don't really pity them.

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They let them come in here so they can manufacture votes. It's all about power. They're not actually trying to take care of those people.

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They're not interested in that. They're just interested in trying to keep power. And here's the point I'm making on the immigration thing in terms of like biblical principles, coming into a covenant with a nation,

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What I'm saying is that you can't show partiality in this instance either because if you say, if you say, all right, we're gonna throw out all the illegal immigrants, the people who have come here illegally and are the criminals,

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I'd say on what basis are you throwing them out? Is it because they came here illegally? Well, yes, they came here illegally, but we're gonna throw out just the criminal element.

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It's like, okay, but that's partiality because there's these other people over here that also came in illegally. The problem was they did not come into covenant with this nation, agree with the laws of this nation.

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And so you can't have unequal weights and measures. You can't say, hey, you came in illegally and you're a criminal, so you're out.

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You have to say, what's the standard? You can't come in here illegally without covenanting together with this nation, agreeing to the laws of this nation.

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You have to do it legally. Also, you have to say, how offensive is it?

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How offensive is it to the person who sacrificed so much to come here from Guatemala or Venezuela or Buenos Aires?

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And they come, they do everything they can to come here and they fight and they claw and they come in legally and they go through the system.

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They spend all the time in the offices and they spend all the time studying the documentation. They spend all the time doing the tests and then doing the oath.

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They spend years fighting and clawing for that citizenship, right? And they did everything they could to do it legally and to do it rightly and to show the community around them,

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I agree with this system of government and these laws. And I make an oath before God that I stand together with you and I will teach these to my children, sort of a thing.

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How offensive is it to them that someone is just allowed to come in and just subvert that entire process, not covenant together with the nation, not agree with any of this and be allowed to just set up shop.

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It's partiality. And be taken care of. It's unfair. It's unjust to say, you've got one standard for this person and a different standard for that person.

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So from all Christian principle, you have to say, you got to do what's right here. No matter how uncomfortable it is, you've got to do what's right to get back to a solid standard and say, this is the standard without partiality.

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This is the principle. This is how you do it. You have to say, no more double standards, no more partiality.

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You've got to do it in principle, the right way every single time. That's the right way to have a nation, have unity, have unity.

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And there's a million other things we can talk about in terms of what needs to be fixed in the constitution and all those different things and the Lordship of Christ.

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And that's a different conversation. But for now, in principle, fixing that issue, there's a clean break.

01:00:50

So this is a portion from the inauguration address. Today, I will sign a series of historic executive orders.

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With these actions, we will begin the complete restoration of America and the revolution of common sense.

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It's all about common sense. First, I will declare a national emergency at our southern border.

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You notice Kamala and Joe aren't standing. They're the only ones that aren't standing. All illegal entry will immediately be halted.

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And we will begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal aliens back to the places from which they came.

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We will reinstate my remain in Mexico policy.

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I will end the practice of catch and release. And I will send troops to the southern border to repel the disastrous invasion of our country.

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Under the orders I signed today, we will also be designating the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

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That's positive. When that was watching it live, when he said that, I was like, oh, yes.

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Let me just say that I know some SEALs that were very excited about that. Yeah, more excited than we were.

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When I heard this, okay, so there's a conversation we need to have about executive orders, and we'll try to do that as quickly as possible. But I just want to say that the issue with the cartels, you know,

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I've known for years that there are many people, special forces guys, people in government positions that have been trying to get presidents to designate the cartels as terrorist organizations so that we can effectively end them.

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And when you think about these cartel organizations, you've got the most malicious, dark -hearted, evil groups of human beings imaginable.

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It's like when you read the first nine chapters of the book of Proverbs, like all the descriptions of people who were like, come with us and let's destroy these people.

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And that's, you know, it's like this, where are those people that act like that? Well, cartels. They are so wicked and so evil.

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You know, you've got Mexican law enforcement who has to hide their identity when they go and do raids or whatever.

01:03:55

They have to cover their face with masks because the cartels will kill them and their families and rape everybody that they love just to make an example out of them.

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And so when they brutalize people, they do it to the nth degree. I was ministering to a guy at the hospital many years ago.

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He came in and he was shaken like a leaf. This guy looked bad. He was in a bad way. And so the nursing staff and the doctors came to me and I said,

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Pastor Jeff, you got to talk to this guy. He's not doing well. And so I bring him to my office and he is, I mean, it took, it took me a while to get him to calm down.

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Well, it turns out the reason why is this was 24 hours after, 24 hours after this guy was locally with his buddy working for the cartel.

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The cartels here, they're working. They're in operation here. And there was a church that used to work for the cartel.

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Yeah. And so this guy and his buddy were working for the cartel. They did something wrong. And so they were told to meet the cartel like in some, you know, far away location for a private meeting.

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They thought they were just going to get their hands slapped, kind of a thing, got yelled at. But he gets out there with his buddy. They're selling drugs for the cartel.

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And when they get there, of course, they get beaten up. And then they, in front of him, they took his friend and they threw him into a wood chipper right in front of him.

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And so just disintegrated his friend right in front of him. So when he's in front of me, it was like 24 hours later, he was, you know, shaking like a leaf and just not in a good way.

01:05:16

These people are disgusting, evil, evil people. They're the ones in many ways responsible for lots of the sex trafficking going on in this nation.

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You've got little girls and women who are being captured by these evil men. They're raped repeatedly and they're put into a sex trafficking system.

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And the cartels run that. They run that. And these people are wicked and evil.

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And what's taken place over the years is many times, many of the government have said, hey, these people are among us.

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They're running these criminal enterprises among us. They are murdering. They are raping. They are raping children.

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And we got to do something about it. And no president has been, to my understanding, courageous enough to simply say, label them a terrorist organization so we can use the government resources against them.

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So this is a very big deal. This is a very big deal. And the cartels knew it.

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They've known it for years that if they get labeled a terrorist organization, it means that the full force and weight of the

01:06:16

United States government and military can be brought upon them. And so this is a very, very good thing.

01:06:22

This is what the purpose of government is, according to scripture, is to punish terror, terrorize evil doers.

01:06:31

To terrorize the terrorists. Yes. Terrorize the evil doers. Terrorize the terrorists. That's a righteous biblical move from the government is to say, these people are evil doers.

01:06:44

We are going to terrorize them. And they deserve to die. They deserve to die.

01:06:51

To preserve human life. To preserve human life. Yes. And so this is a very big deal. And I think

01:06:56

I also have the clip here. I mean, you have to think the sex trafficking and all that, that includes abortion.

01:07:04

Oh, sure. Within that. I mean, so we're talking, we're talking about ramifications in that area as well.

01:07:09

That's right. That's a great point. Here was the executive order. Here we go. But it's going to happen.

01:07:14

It has to happen. Oh, we're not going to have a country left. This is actually an executive order designating the cartels and other organizations to be foreign terrorist organizations.

01:07:25

That's a big one. Yes, sir. People have wanted to do this for years.

01:07:34

So they are now designated as terrorist organizations, foreign. And Mexico probably doesn't want that.

01:07:44

But we have to do what's right. They're killing our people. They're killing 250, 300 ,000

01:07:52

American people a year, not 100. Like has been reported for 15 years.

01:07:58

It's probably 300 ,000. So he's right. Many people for a long time in government have wanted this move to be done.

01:08:08

And it is a great thing for our government to designate that horrific organization, those horrific organizations as terrorist organizations so we can send our boys against them.

01:08:19

Protect and preserve innocent human life. They take it. And so the government needs to terrorize them.

01:08:24

That's all there is to it. That's a biblical worldview. That's a proper role of government, which brings us to the next discussion about executive orders.

01:08:32

Yeah. I'll let you start, Zach. I think you see it highlighted during the

01:08:38

COVID era. You have this kind of rule by decree of whoever the leader is, whether it's state government or national government.

01:08:47

You know, when Biden got into office, there were however many orders, executive orders signed within that first month.

01:08:53

It was a lot. And really... Like 80 or something. I mean, the fundamental problem with it is it's just not how our system of government works.

01:09:01

It's not how things go in a constitutional representative republic.

01:09:07

I think it's something that more closely resembles a monarchy in many ways.

01:09:13

So you have the leader of the nation sliding into that kingly role and issuing by edict what's going to happen.

01:09:21

So you have kind of a rule by fiat. And I think the concern from our side would be it's also not helpful and it also circumvents the role of the executive branch, the judicial branch and the legislative branch when our guy does it too.

01:09:40

So I don't think we have examined fully yet where that type of mentality leads to.

01:09:49

This kind of the ends justify the means, right? We're going to do it too.

01:09:56

We're going to use this type of governmental oversight to destroy our political adversaries, to punish the left in the same way that they used it to punish our people.

01:10:06

I don't think that we're fully appreciating where that can go.

01:10:12

And there's a reason that these judicial safeguards and the procedures of law are in effect in our nation to combat anyone and detour anyone from becoming tyrannical in their rule.

01:10:26

And we've talked about that plenty. You know, Trump is doing good things. But if there isn't a procedure to restrain him, as with any other leader, that could present problems.

01:10:37

Because as soon as the next guy gets in who doesn't agree with you, he goes the other way. And we become governed by the majority.

01:10:45

We become governed by whoever's in charge, which is more likely to disconnect us from a standard and a procedure.

01:10:51

And you understand the temptation. It's like, well, we got a lot of ground to cover. Yeah. We got a lot to make up for here. Like these people spent four years weakening the stability of our nation.

01:11:00

And so I think the temptation is, well, we got to get it back as fast as we can. However, the means are that we use to get there.

01:11:06

Yeah. Yeah. I'll just say that's what I've been wrestling with is like Trump has undone a lot of evil things that Biden did in four years with one fell swoop, which is amazing.

01:11:18

And praise God for that. But at the same time, then like, OK, what are the ramifications of that long term? Yeah. So that's kind of like, we're like, we're what's just and unjust here.

01:11:28

What's wise and unwise. I will say that, you know, they're already starting the lawsuits against Trump for some of these.

01:11:35

So we there is some form of check. Yeah. Right. So if any of those things that he's doing are unconstitutional, he should they, you know, should be stopped.

01:11:46

Now, whether or not that actually happens or not, that's another question. So there is a form of a check. But is it a reliable check?

01:11:52

That's another another discussion. Yeah. Just we're concerned with the precedent. Yeah. That it that it sets the precedent that actually goes against the role of the president that was laid down at the founding of this nation, the president.

01:12:07

We did not want a king. I mean, that's that's really the history of this nation. We did not want a king.

01:12:12

We dealt with enough bad kings in the past who ruled by edict and decree. And we wanted to have checks and balances.

01:12:20

We wanted to have a way to stop tyranny, a way to stop a person who became a force of destruction in the nation.

01:12:27

You don't have to go far back before the history of this nation, 1776.

01:12:33

You don't have to go far back to see like some pretty bad things that kings did and the kind of bloodshed that would occur when you had somebody who had full reign to do and to say what they wanted.

01:12:47

I mean, you can look at the history of France and England and Scotland, not many hundreds of years ago.

01:12:53

And you could see just a lot of bloodshed, a lot of torture, a lot of bloodshed. And so the people who came here who were descendants of the

01:13:02

Covenanters and the Huguenots and the kind of tyranny they endured and even England, they knew their history.

01:13:09

It was kind of, it was really close to them. Much of it they could have heard their grandfather talking about. And so it's very close to them.

01:13:15

They had a doctrinal understanding. And so when they were forming the nation and the laws of this nation, they kept in mind of what had just occurred generations before or a generation ago.

01:13:27

And we don't want that. We don't wanna have to endure that kind of tyranny again. That's why Lex Rex.

01:13:33

That's why Lex Rex, Amy Rutherford, Lex Rex. That's why against tyranny, all of that.

01:13:39

And so when they were establishing these different spheres within government, the judicial branch, executive branch, legislative branch, when they're doing that, they're doing it as a check and balance against someone acting like a king.

01:13:51

And so we don't ultimately want this. And of course, you can say, well, I'm really grateful that President Trump decreed that there's only two sexes.

01:14:01

And it's like, that's fantastic. And within that, that life begins at conception. Right, right.

01:14:07

It's like, that's fantastic. But you know what? It could be an executive statement that then you work towards legislation, where now it gets codified.

01:14:19

And in order for somebody to subvert it down the line, they have to go through the same process of legislation.

01:14:25

And it's not as easy. It's not as easy as day one, executive order, undo everything that was done before.

01:14:32

And now here's my new decrees. And when you have a system of government like we have of checks and balances and a need for legislation and the way to do it the right way, you have a way to firm up something as a standard and as a statute, right?

01:14:45

This is law. And it can't just be wiped away on day one of the inauguration.

01:14:50

And so that's what we're saying. Yes, it takes a little longer. And yes, it's a process, but it's a process that secures a statute, right?

01:14:58

And it's so much more difficult to undo that via decree. And so, yeah, for the moment, you're like, hey, our guy's in, who's saying a lot of the stuff that we like and praise

01:15:09

God for that. You know, God strikes straight blows with crooked sticks and all that. But what we're saying is like in the long term for our future generations, we want something that is more appropriate and matching what was the laying down of the standards of this nation.

01:15:24

We want it to be not a king, not by decree, but actual something that's law and statute that can be firmed up and solidified.

01:15:33

And you can't just undo it. Yeah, I think you see it go both ways because we really do have a crisis at our borders.

01:15:39

Like it's a genuine emergency. It is. So when the president of the United States says, this is an emergency and I'm declaring a state of emergency, it's a responsible use and it's an appropriate use of that term.

01:15:52

But going back to something like COVID, like what it was, this is a period, a state of emergency.

01:15:59

Therefore, I am circumventing the legislative process and I am assuming all authority within myself to dictate what you will do.

01:16:07

And it's like, well, how long are we gonna do that? Well, 30 days. Okay, all right.

01:16:12

Okay, well now it's 60 days. Now it's 90 days. And now it's until I tell you.

01:16:19

I tell you when this ends. And so again, the concern is, depending on who's in charge, this could definitely work against you.

01:16:30

Because when you assume a state of emergency, you are suspending the normal judiciary process and you're saying that whoever occupies the chair of authority is the law now.

01:16:42

I'm in charge here, right? Like look at me, I'm the captain. Like the meme from Captain Phillips, right?

01:16:48

Yeah. Look at me, I'm the captain now. I'm the captain now. Love that scene, yeah. Well, it gets right down to the core issues related to Lex Rex.

01:16:58

Is it that the king is law? Yep. Or the law is king? And what we're saying is read

01:17:04

Rutherford, Lex Rex, and listen to the biblical argumentation, and listen to the history.

01:17:10

And that's the important thing to hold on to. It's not the law, the king is law.

01:17:15

He cannot by himself do this. And so what we don't want for America's future is to have ultimately a king that changes every four years.

01:17:27

That's bad, it's real bad. And so we're just saying it needs to be better and more consistent with,

01:17:33

I think, a biblical worldview that recognizes what the founders recognized. And that is that men are not angels.

01:17:39

And because men are not angels, a constitution is necessary. And just remember that when they were installing a president, it was an overseer, essentially, and manager, it was not a king.

01:17:51

And what we're moving towards with these kinds of things is a king. And it's not ultimately healthy.

01:17:58

I'm saying, I'm not arguing with the goodness of what's been done in the last couple of days. I'm saying that there needs to be a better way so that it's actually solidified as statute and it brings everybody in together.

01:18:08

Because I don't think right now, we do have the majority in the Senate and the House. So would it have been difficult to bring the

01:18:15

Senate and the House into a state of emergency, right? And you know what I'm saying? Would it have been something that people wouldn't have, of course, they would have recognized it.

01:18:24

And I think there's a better way. And it's a longer discussion and a whole show unto itself.

01:18:30

But we do wanna play one final clip here, everybody, because it was something we were involved with and sacrificed so much time for.

01:18:36

This is Donald Trump speaking about, well, I'll let you hear it. This week,

01:18:42

I will reinstate any service members who were unjustly expelled from our military for objecting to the

01:18:48

COVID vaccine mandate with full back pain. Wow, that's amazing.

01:18:58

Vindication right there. Yes, it is. And I will sign an order to stop our warriors from being subjected to radical political theories and social experiments while on duty.

01:19:13

It's going to end immediately. Yes. Huge. Oh, man.

01:19:19

I'm okay with that executive order. Listen, I've never had,

01:19:26

I watched the whole thing and all the speeches that day. We just had a plane throughout the house. I've never had a presidential inauguration where I was like yelling in excitement.

01:19:36

Like when he dropped that, I was, I'm like, let's go. Like I was so pumped.

01:19:41

I'm so proud of our guys that have stood strong and have gotten abused over the last, what is it, Keith? Five years now, four years.

01:19:47

So super proud of those guys. This is a proud moment for sure. It was hard. This is very meaningful to us because we, when this whole thing popped off with the jabs and we ended up meeting privately with the

01:19:59

SEALs from across the teams at a secret location in Virginia, it was hard.

01:20:06

It was hard. We were troubled for them. I mean, many of these guys are, they were just, these guys are

01:20:12

Navy SEALs. They're warriors. And that day, what they were facing was jail time.

01:20:20

I mean, that was the thing. If you refuse the jab, it's jail. Losing everything. Losing everything.

01:20:26

Paying back all that it costs to train you as a SEAL. Some of them did. Yeah. And so the consequence ahead of them was,

01:20:36

I mean, I was thinking these guys are so courageous. They're so courageous. Not just warriors in battle facing down bullets and bombs.

01:20:43

But man, they were like, you're going to lose everything. You're going to lose your family. You're going to lose your money because you won't take the jab.

01:20:50

And man. And then watching them suffer through that for a long time. And we knew a group of SEALs that got put on ice for a year?

01:21:01

No, it was longer than that. Like two years. Two years? I mean, these are Navy SEALs. Trimming bushes. Yeah, told to trim bushes and do yard work when they should be training as SEALs.

01:21:10

And what a waste. What a throwaway. And all because of this tyranny of the jab.

01:21:16

And to see this vindication is just such a blessing because we know men personally who were in plenty of branches, but specifically for us, very close to active duty

01:21:28

Navy SEALs who suffered greatly under the last regime with the COVID jab.

01:21:33

Nonsense. And so to see this blesses my heart. Yeah. Because we know these men and we know what they went through.

01:21:40

Yeah. And I'm thankful too. I mean, and to have, you know what I love it too? That back pay. That's amazing.

01:21:47

Yeah. That. Recompense. I had some of them text me yesterday and say, is that legit? Like some that are still in.

01:21:53

And I was like, I don't know, we'll see. But they were like, are you serious? That's a form of restitution. Yeah, it is. It is. You were treated unjustly.

01:21:59

We owe you. Plus interest. Yeah, that is. I don't know if they'll get that. Yeah. Sorry for your troubles.

01:22:07

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