April 28, 2022 with Don Green on “John MacArthur: An Insider’s Tribute”

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And I am absolutely thrilled to have a first -time guest today.

His name is Don Green, and he is pastor of Truth Community Church of Cincinnati, Ohio.

And we are also going to be addressing a new biography that will soon be

released, John MacArthur, an Insider's Tribute.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Don Green.

Thank you, Chris.

In front of your audience today, it's going to be a great privilege.

And I've been looking forward to it as well.

And tell our listeners about Truth Community Church in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Sure.

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group of years.

The Word, that's when the

Lord's been blessing us.

We've had record attendance just within the past week.

He just wants to put the Word of God forth.

Great.

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And I don't know when you went to the Master's Seminary.

I have a friend, a very dear longtime friend, Pastor Chris Pandolfi,

of Calvary Baptist Church of Medford, Long Island, New York, who graduated

from the Master's Seminary I think sometime in the 1980s, if I'm not mistaken.

But I don't know if you ever bumped into Chris along your way.

That was a little bit before my time, my years

of 2001.

Well, I

know somebody.

After having read a bio of you on the Internet, I know somebody that you and I

share in common as a dear friend, Doug McMasters.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Doug actually was crucial to my original...

Yes, well, I played a very key role in Doug receiving the call to

the pastor at New Hyde Park Baptist Church in Nassau County, Long Island, where he is currently serving.

I am the one that hardly recommended Doug to that church, and they very

quickly ruled out everyone else who was a candidate.

And thanks be to God, they selected Doug, and he's been there quite a number of years.

And I've had not only the privilege of visiting there a number of times,

but also arranging conferences, and I even arranged a debate with

Reformed Baptist theologian Dr. James R. White and a Muslim apologist at New Hyde Park

Baptist Church.

So Doug and I and the saints at New Hyde Park go back a long way also.

He's a gentle giant and a fine theologian.

Yes, he is.

So I'm just, you know, he had a crucial role in my life at that.

You know, I'm always bringing Doug into my life.

And his wife, Royal, is such a sweet, dear sister in Christ as well.

Yeah, that's right.

She's a nurse.

Well, we have a tradition here on Iron Shepherd and Zion Radio.

Before we get into our major theme today, Don, which is not only

your new biography of John MacArthur, John MacArthur and Insider's Tribute, which has

yet to be released, but also, of course, we're going to talk about your upcoming evening

with John MacArthur in Kentucky right near the border of Ohio.

But before we do that, we have a tradition here where whenever we have a first -time guest on Iron Shepherd and Zion

Radio, we have them give a summary of their salvation testimony.

That would include the kind of religious atmosphere, if any, they were raised in and what kind

of providential circumstances our Sovereign Lord raised up in their lives that

drew them to himself and saved them.

And that would include you.

I'd love to hear your story.

Yeah, well,

I'll give you a

thumbnail, and you can see

that I

said that

I was really

regenerate.

I was lost in my sins.

Eventually went on to law school at Indiana University.

At law school, something positively changed

my life.

His advice was always the same to the people that wrote in to him.

Repent and believe in Christ.

Repent and believe in Christ.

The

course

of his ministry were

not things in

Indiana where

it all

happened.

I looked at myself in the mirror after that night, and I said to my—I looked at myself in the mirror,

Chris,

I was

a

meme

and

guilt,

and I

needed to

come into my life.

At that time, I knew nothing.

But I knew I was giving my life to Christ.

A

reversible time

in my life.

Built a career for a time.

A seminary to me.

You know, many years.

It gives you a little bit of the idea of the circumstances of my conversion.

It's always a delight to recount that to a new audience.

And when was it—what were the circumstances surrounding your discovery and

falling in love with the doctrines known as the doctrines of sovereign grace?

They've also been nicknamed Calvinism, although we believe that these teachings are directly

from the inerrant God -breathed scriptures.

They're also nicknamed reform theology, sovereign grace theology, free grace

theology.

If you could explain when you first heard of these things, when you came to embrace

them and the story behind them.

Yeah,

I

would

say

what

we

give our—.

In fact, I would like to give a book recommendation to those listening, especially

those who might be from independent fundamentalist backgrounds

who may instinctively have a dislike, a disgust,

maybe even a hatred for Calvinism as they understand it.

And even other Christians and evangelical churches who have the same

lack, I think, of understanding of what these teachings truly are.

A book that may surprise those who think

they despise Calvinism, and it is likely just an invention in their own minds or the

minds of the anti -Calvinist writers and preachers and teachers that they've heard, but

a book by Dr. Tom Nettles called By His Grace and For His Glory.

I strongly urge our listeners to get a hold of that because they may be shocked to discover

how many of the men that they uphold as heroes from the past were indeed thoroughgoing

five -point Calvinists.

And, you know, from Spurgeon and far beyond that, there were

many throughout history that I know that my non

-reformed anti -Calvinist friends uphold as heroes and they don't even realize the

depth to which these men embraced and loved and proclaimed the doctrines of

grace.

Yeah, very good.

Well, you have written a book, as I have said a couple of times,

in the program that is soon to be released, John MacArthur, An Insider's Tribute.

What was it that compelled you, and I know that there are many things, that compelled you to

write your own biography of this great man of God who also happens to be

one of my first Christian heroes as a new Christian

in the 1980s?

I remember someone gave me as a gift, I think it may have even been my very first

Christian girlfriend, gave me a gift of The Gospel According to Jesus by John

MacArthur.

And I was reading it and absolutely astonished that

there were Christians, in fact, prominent evangelical Protestant Christians,

many of whom rejected the necessity of repentance in the life of a

Christian.

That there are many world -renowned names out there even who believe that all

one needs to do to have a one -way ticket to heaven is to utter a prayer of some kind

at their church service or at a Christian camp meeting or revival meeting or whatever the

case may be.

And they think by that one profession that may even date back to their early childhood

is guaranteeing them a place in heaven regardless of how

they are living, regardless of how they are not bearing fruit to give evidence that they

are truly born again.

And it's astounding, I can remember reading it thinking that what Dr. MacArthur was

writing was, as they say, a no -brainer.

If you had any cursory knowledge of the Bible, you see that repentance is a key factor.

But if you could pick up where I left off there, how did you first come to discover Dr. MacArthur and what

drew you to him as a mentor and teacher?

Yeah,

being

within

the first

time

a

teacher

of God's

Word, I wanted

to be able to teach

like that.

I did not want to be...

Praise God.

What would you say are some of the unique features about John

MacArthur that make him stand out?

And I don't think there's anything wrong.

There are some people who have criticized me in the past for using the phrase Christian heroes.

I don't think there's anything at all wrong with having heroes as long as you don't turn them into idols.

In fact, I think it is very commendable and biblical to have men that

you uphold as mentors and teachers, not only those that are currently living that you

actually know personally, and of course your elders of your own congregation should be among them if you're in

a biblically faithful church.

But even those voices from the past that may even date back as far as the

Protestant Reformation, and of course in the God -breathed scriptures we have heroes

that we should uphold.

But what do you think some of the things are that mark out John

in a unique way?

There are many faithful men of God who properly and even

superbly handle the Word of God correctly from behind that sacred

desk known as the pulpit.

But there is something very unique about Dr. MacArthur's ministry.

What would you say some of those things are?

Well,

as

I've

had one

pastor

while in the

United

States, to

give you

just some

perspective,

and he is

people and

teaching.

And until you understand

that first

and

foremost

he was

a pastor,

you

know, because he

was the

authority.

Yes, you were talking about how risky that was and

how courageous that was of him to write the gospel according to Jesus because

of the fact that he was seemingly in a minority.

It may have even surprised him initially how much of a minority, theologically, he

was in at that time in the 80s, maybe still is,

in basically declaring that repentance is an absolutely essential element for

genuine conversion and salvation.

But I remember years ago having dinner

with a visiting missionary who is a missionary in Brazil.

And this brother had one of his

most prominent financial supporters.

I'm not going to mention the name of the individual who is very well known because he may have changed his

position on the issue of repentance, I'm not certain.

But this person who is a global radio and television

ministry and has written many books, extremely popular, he

dropped funding this missionary because

he had translated the gospel according to Jesus into Portuguese.

And when Dr. MacArthur heard about that, apparently

either Grace To You or Grace Community Church basically matched whatever

that renowned anti -lordship

pastor was... matched the amount that the renowned anti

-lordship pastor was funding for this missionary's ministry.

So I remember thinking that was such a tragedy to hear that

that ministry dropped a missionary over insisting in the necessity of repentance.

But it was such a blessing to hear also that Dr. MacArthur came to the rescue

and did not let that missionary languish with insufficient funding.

Well, we're going to also address some things that are sad and uncomfortable.

When we come back from the first break, I know that you wanted to at least in some fashion address

some of the slanders and accusations that are being hurled against

Dr. MacArthur by a particular woman.

I'll leave it up to you whether or not you want to identify her by name.

But because of the fact that so many people have asked me personally off the air about what my

thoughts were on these accusations by this woman, I wanted you to address

that.

In fact, you also brought up to me the idea of addressing it to some

degree during this interview, and I think that would be a very wise idea.

And I know that some of this reaction that you had to her

is where your legal training came into place and

also your study recently of the Ten Commandments.

Particularly, thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor.

And you're also reminding me of a very dear friend of mine for decades, Daniel P.

Buttafuoco, an attorney on Long Island, New York, who actually sponsors this

program, who also was trained in

Christian apologetics in seminary and uses his own legal

experience when defending the truths of the Scripture.

And so you two have to meet one day.

I think that you'd make fast friends.

He actually was my most recent speaker at the Iron Sharpens Iron radio pastors' luncheon that

I have twice a year.

That's Dan Buttafuoco, dear friend.

But we're going to have you address some of those issues and your approach to

addressing those issues when we return from the first break.

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If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the entire two hours of the program

is Don Green, pastor of Truth Community Church of Cincinnati, Ohio.

We are addressing his soon -to -be -released biography, John MacArthur, an

Insider's Tribute.

He's also going to be having an event called An Evening with John MacArthur.

Before we go into your defense of Dr. MacArthur in the midst of

accusations of a certain woman who seems to be running amok on the Internet, perhaps

you can let our listeners know about your Evening with John

MacArthur event.

Yeah, I'm really excited.

It's

on

the

campus,

including

the

United

States.

The theme of the evening is Truth View, John.

It's going to be a wonderful time.

So if you could, let our listeners know how they can register, and I will, God willing, have you repeat this

towards the end of the program, but how can they register for this before there are no seats left?

Yeah, the...

And even though people have to register and get paper tickets, it is a free event, is it not?

That's the only...

You know, there's $8 at the...

Okay, well, let me repeat our e -mail address.

If anybody listening would like to join us on the air with a question of your own, it is chrisarnson at gmail .com.

Chrisarnson at gmail .com.

Give us your first name at least, your city and state, and your country of residence.

And as I mentioned before the break, you have some unpleasant

business that you'd like to attend to during this program because of the fact that it's so

well -known that there have been slanderous accusations and exaggerations and all

kinds of things floating around on the Internet, and well -meaning people don't know what to

believe on certain occasions.

These are largely due to gossip being spread by a particular woman.

I'll leave it up to you if you'd like to name her by name since she is a public person.

But why don't you just pick up where we left off there?

Yeah,

of course,

Chris.

You and I

didn't

really

talk.

If you

want to

ask me to

go through these

four headings

in 13, we are specific to the

Apostle Paul that you appreciate

and give

you a way

that you

esteem

from a

more

negative

perspective.

You know, you need to turn away from someone like that

and not even

listen to the accusations from

them.

And I don't even pay attention to what's being said anymore because it follows

you into it.

And that is not, under these scripts, you cannot engage that.

We cannot give credence to it by even giving

our

minds over it.

Okay, well, we do have a listener who has a question that I think is very relative

to what you just said.

But before I do that, are there any specific charges that you care to

highlight, that you care to refute?

Or is there anything specific about a known agenda as being the

reasons for these accusations and these constant attacks?

Before we move on to our listener question and then to your other points.

It's to give

people

an opportunity to...

Okay, great.

We have B .B. in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, who says, I love

John MacArthur and have benefited greatly throughout my life as a Christian from his

writings and from his preaching.

But I have heard word -of -faith Pentecostals and others

involved in false religious movements defend their leaders in much

the same way you are attempting to defend John right now.

Is there a reason why a word -of -faith Pentecostal who is

defending some of the scandalous or blatantly heretical televangelists

with using your same language should not be listened to while we should take your

heed of counsel and advice?

Well,

that's

the...

You know, to the same...

...the

sound...

...these biblical principles in isolation...

Well, thank you,

B .B., and guess what?

You have won a free copy of the book that we are discussing,

John MacArthur, an Insider's Tribute.

You must be patient, however, because the books are not yet available.

They will be available on May 17th and afterward, so you will

probably have to wait a number of weeks before receiving this book, but you will eventually,

God willing.

And so make sure we have your full mailing address in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, and we'll have Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service,

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And since they are also in Cumberland County, you may even want to pick up that book yourself

when they are in the hands of the folks at Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service.

It should be only a couple of minutes away from where you live, if indeed you are in Cumberland County.

Thank you so much for the excellent question.

Not to belabor that point, but you were

saying that the Word of Faith preachers, since they are heretics, since

they are actually proven to be false prophets because they've made

so many predictions that never came to pass, they are

a far cry from a man the caliber of Dr. MacArthur.

But in the minds of those who are in agreement with these people, because they are

themselves deceived, can you see the logic of them wanting to defend those teachers

in the same way you are defending Dr. MacArthur, if you understand what I'm saying?

They would not view these men and women as being disqualified because they're still

under a cloak of darkness and deception.

They don't see these teachers as being in a category of being false shepherds.

The authority is a leader.

By the way, we've already reached our midway break point.

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and we are discussing, as I have been repeating, the new biography that is

going to be available soon, God willing.

The book is John MacArthur, An Insider's Tribute.

If you have a question regarding this, our e -mail address is chrisarnson at gmail .com

chrisarnson at gmail .com and Don, you just actually e -mailed me a clarification.

It is not strictly accurate to call it a biography if you could tell us what is the

genuine intent of the book.

Well, Chris, I do need to clarify because

the

text that

I did

with

John where he is

great encouraged,

you heard about it, said it is

not intended

that the goal

is that people are going to enjoy it and get insight.

Well, I appreciate that clarification and I will no longer refer to it as a biography.

I'm sorry about that.

No, no, it's fine.

And I understand why you would.

I just don't want to bear false witness about whether it is or isn't.

So I'm pretty, I'm on edge about being strictly.

Okay, and before I go to any more of our listener questions,

I'd like you to continue on some of the principles that you were intending to give that

surround a proper biblical response to these scandalous

gossip mongers on the internet that are seeking to tear down the reputation of one of

God's finest servants in the 20th and 21st centuries.

So, if you could, continue.

Yeah, let

me just say,

you know,

that you shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

He told what

was

being used,

even if they are,

to John MacArthur.

And I'm grateful for the opportunity to raise my little voice.

Would you mind if I went to one listener question?

Please.

Okay, I'm going to have to enlarge the font on this email that this listener sent in because it's

almost microscopic, so bear with me.

And while I'm doing that, let me give our email address again.

It's chrisarnson at gmail dot com.

Chrisarnson at gmail dot com.

Give us your first name, at least, your city and state, and your country of residence.

Usually, I only give the first name, city, and state of those who write in questions, but since I happen

to know this pastor, and he is a fine man of God, I will

provide his full name and even the full name and location of the church in their

website.

We have Gary George, who is pastor of Sovereign Grace

Chapel in Southbridge, Massachusetts, who has a question.

And he says, prior to the 90s, and stated in his commentaries on,

I believe, both his Galatians and Hebrews commentaries, John MacArthur held to the

temporal sonship of Christ.

Would you know why he changed his mind on that errant view and adopted eternal

sonship Christology?

You know, I

think that he

recognized

that there were views on that and that.

Yes.

And he was not always a five -point Calvinist, either, and I respect him for changing his mind on that.

Yeah, that's right.

That actually served his

views matured

in

detail

in places,

and I would just give my general view.

And I think we should clarify, in case there are listeners who are unfamiliar with the

controversy that was brought up by Pastor Gary, they may think far worse

of it than it actually is.

John always believed in the Trinity, and he always believed that

Christ, Jesus, obviously before he received that name Jesus, but always in

eternity past through eternity future has always existed as a part of the

Triune Godhead, so that is not something that was ever in dispute in John's teachings.

Yeah, it was just a matter of how we understand it.

Right, and the roles that are involved with each member of the

eternally equal Triune Godhead.

Co -eternal, co -equal, and equally deserving of worship.

Amen.

Well, thank you, Pastor Gary George, and we do have

your mailing address since you have contacted

us in the past and also have been a guest on this program.

So we will have, as soon as it is available to us, we will have Cumberland Valley Bible Book

Service ship out to you a copy of John MacArthur, an Insider's

Tribute, and so please be patient for a number of weeks until we are able to give

that to cvbbs .com to ship out to you.

And I want to just plug the website of Pastor Gary's church, Sovereign Grace Chapel in Southbridge, Massachusetts.

It is sovereigngracema, the abbreviation for massachusetts .org,

sovereigngracem, as in Michael A., .org.

Well, if you could, I want you to highlight some more reasons why our

listeners, it's hard to believe that there would be any listeners at all in

my audience that were not familiar with John MacArthur, since it seems the

majority of the listeners in my audience, at least those that have interacted with me, because

they say that less than 1 of a radio audience actually contacts

any given talk show.

So there may be many people out there that are not in theological agreement with me.

I know that there are some.

We even have Muslims and atheists on rare occasion contact us.

But tell us some more of the reasons why the average listener in the Iron Trip and Zion Radio audience

should immediately begin reading the books by Dr. MacArthur,

listening to Grace to You via radio, or watching it via television, and discovering and

making use of this profound teacher of Christ's Word.

Right.

This is to be cross -examined.

None

of those can

just be

thrown

out and

accessed

by those

who

ensure.

Here

we're

taught

the

objective.

You know, one of the reasons why I believe that Dr. MacArthur stands

out as a leader and a teacher

worthy of our attention is because I have always found it quite

fascinating for decades of the broad appeal

spanning denominational lines that he has, not the kind of appeal

that an ear tickler would have, but the kind of theologically deep

and profound teacher that he's even a

popular author and preacher and teacher amongst those that have radically different

understandings of eschatology who may be extremely opposed even to

dispensationalism and overlook that aspect of Dr. MacArthur's belief system

because the majority of what he focuses on in his writings and his

preaching and teaching are things that are held to be universally true

amongst those that really, truly understand the Word of God and

exegete it correctly.

He has been a favorite of amillennial reform paptists as long as

I've been a Christian.

And you don't very often find that with other teachers because sometimes they will let

the unique positions they have overshadow everything else.

You might have a dispensationalist, for instance, that is a one

-string banjo on that area of their belief system.

And you might even have a dispensationalist who is an extreme

and serious error because actually Dr. MacArthur's book, The Gospel According to Jesus, was

primarily targeting fellow dispensationalists who are totally in error on the area

of their rejection of repentance.

Am I making sense here?

Yeah, absolutely.

And, of course, R .C. Sproul is one of the most famous of the covenantal

Christians who would embrace covenant theology and also infant baptism

in stark contrast to Dr. MacArthur's beliefs.

And yet they maintain a loving and very close and tight -knit

friendship and exchange pulpits and had each other appear on the

platform with them at different conferences and major events.

Yeah, that's right, and that is as John speaks.

We do have another listener with a question.

We have Joseph in South Central Pennsylvania

who wants to know,.

I was wondering if you have read and if you enjoy and recommend the

biography of John MacArthur titled John MacArthur, Servant of the Word and

Flock by Iain H. Murray, published by Banner of Truth.

Yes, absolutely.

That, in

my

library,

was

mentioned.

Well, thank you for mentioning it, Joseph, and you have also won a free copy of the soon -to -be

-released book by our guest, Don Green, John MacArthur, an Insider's Tribute.

Please make sure we have your full mailing address in South Central Pennsylvania so that

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And, by the way, you can also purchase that biography by Iain Murray, John MacArthur,

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another.

So that's cvbbs .com, cv for Cumberland Valley,

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We're going to go to our final break.

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Pastor Green, we have a listener, CJ in Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York, who has a question for

you.

He says, I am typically drawn to preachers and evangelists that raise

their voices and very passionately proclaim the Word of God with great

urgency.

Dr. MacArthur is one of those exceptions where he doesn't often raise his

voice and isn't really known as being a passionate speaker in the way

that he vocalizes truth.

But at the same time, I find him one of the most penetrating preachers I have

ever heard.

I am always riveted to him.

Why do you think his message and the manner with which he delivers it is still

quite a riveting experience without the loud voice and the passion

and the pacing back and forth that we typically will see from more animated preachers?

Amen.

Yeah, I would agree with our listener that I personally do not care

for preachers that have a habit and may be their, in fact,

exclusive custom to lecture.

But Dr. MacArthur never sounds like he's lecturing to me.

And just because somebody, just to clarify something CJ said, just because a person is

not raising their voice and pacing back and forth doesn't mean that they don't have passion.

It's just manifest in a different way.

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Well, if you could, I'd like you to spend at least five minutes, before we

take any more listener questions, I'd like you to spend at least five minutes to really hone in on what you

most want our listeners to remember about

your book, John MacArthur, An Insider's Tribute, and the man himself, John MacArthur.

And if you could do that before we do have other listeners sending in questions, even as

I speak, before we get to them, I'd like you to really hone in on those things that you find most pivotal and

important before we go off the air.

Yeah, well, you

know, I

mentioned

authoritative, was

immediately

next to

his, a grace to

you, immediately next,

it has

not been given to many.

And I know much of John MacArthur,

made against him, is absolute, and it's

not an emotional rival teacher

or anything like that.

And I know that those,

when I know those things,

you know, one of the

reasons, and

he gave me his personal approval of it, he hasn't seen the content,

but

he

approved

the

content.

Well, I'm glad that Will Moneymaker is not a Word of Faith Pentecostal.

No, no, he's not.

It's quite a name.

That's personal,

from

John's

ministry, to see that when he

was given

the opportunity.

A couple of things that have really struck me about his humility, one

occurred in my early years of working for

WMCA Christian Radio in New York, an affiliate of

the largest Christian radio network in the world, Salem Media, where Grace to You

has been airing for many years.

Before I had my own radio program, and was basically a nobody, I

remember I wrote a letter to John MacArthur with

a greeting card, because his wife was in a very serious automobile accident.

I don't know if you remember when that occurred.

Yeah, he nearly died from that.

Yes, and I believe I even included with that card the

booklet Sickness by J .C. Ryle, the great 19th century Anglican bishop.

And John actually took the time to handwrite a note that he mailed to me.

One of the things that I kicked myself over more than anything is having lost

that note in the process of moving a number of times over my life.

But I can remember how that struck me, that this world -renowned man would take the time to handwrite me a note,

thanking me for the greeting card.

The next time that revealed to me his humility was when, this was more recent, a lot more

recent, during a break at the G3 conference where he was on the platform to speak.

He got out of an elevator in the hotel lobby at the same time I got out of a different elevator.

And I approached him, I said, Dr. MacArthur, you probably never remember me, all the times you've been interviewed by people, but

I interviewed you back around 2006 on Iron

Sharpens Iron Radio, broadcasting out of Long Island, New York at the time.

And I don't know if you remember me, but I just remember that was one of the greatest blessings of my life, especially in regard

to my broadcasting career.

And he said, of course I remember you, Chris.

I mean, that was probably the highlight of my time at that G3 conference.

In fact, I know it was, that he would remember me with all the people that he's met and all the people who have interviewed him.

Yeah, that's...

And he has...

Now, before we run out of time, do you have at least one anecdote or something that you might

want to share about an occurrence with John that might bring a smile to our listeners' face or

maybe even a chuckle or whatever the case may be?

Yeah, there were several...

John, 15 years, I'd been an elder at...

There was a lot of history...

To lunch with him.

And he came to that lunch,

and he pulled out his...

He said, this is the...

And I want you to have this...

Wow.

Remember me by it.

And... That he was...

With notes that John... To me.

And that's...

Reading his material...

Years and more...

Well, I want to, once again, repeat your website for

Truth Community Church in Cincinnati, Ohio.

It is truthcommunitychurch .org.

Truthcommunitychurch .org.

If you could, once again, let our listeners know how they can register for an evening with

John MacArthur and the exact dates that that is taking place in Kentucky.

Yeah, absolutely.

I know our time,

but you must read Truth Community

Church.

That's wonderful.

And how do people keep in touch with you about the book that is yet to be released, John MacArthur, An

Insider's Tribute?

Great.

And remember, folks, Don's last name is spelled without an E at the end.

It's just like you spell the color green.

Well, I want to thank you...

I want to thank you so much, Don.

You have been a remarkable guest.

I look forward to your frequent return to Eintrap and Zion Radio as a guest.

And I'm looking forward to, God willing, meeting you in person, unless you are overwhelmed by other

attendees at your event, because I am intending to be there.

And thank you so much for the way you promoted this interview on my program and the

wonderful things that you have said about the show.

And I hope that this is the first of many, many interviews, brother.

I would look forward to that and welcome it, Chris.

Thank you for the opportunity.

It's my privilege.

And I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far, far

greater Savior than you are a sinner.