Becoming Bold! Carl Kerby from Reasons for Hope

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Well, Carl Kirby, his passion is to proclaim the authority and accuracy of the

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Bible and also to engage both believers and unbelievers, engage their hearts and their minds so that they can experience the reality of God and his word.

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Whether Carl speaks to youth or adults, large or small crowds, at churches or at schools, he has a way of connecting and engaging with everyone.

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From all ages and from all walks of life, wherever they are on their faith journey,

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Carl reaches people with biblical truths, providing knowledge and reasons why we can trust

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God and his word. Carl is a much sought after speaker, both in the

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US and abroad. He has spoken in Bermuda, Canada, England, Greece, Israel, Jamaica, Japan, Mexico, the

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Philippines, Tanzania, and Wales. Wow. So as a founding board member of Answers in Genesis, Carl served there for more than 15 years before co -founding his apologetics ministry,

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Reasons for Hope. He's had many roles in his life, including the son of a professional wrestler, an air traffic controller at O 'Hare

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International Airport, and one of the founding board members of Answers in Genesis, as well as a speaker for them.

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But his most cherished roles are as a husband to his wife, Masami, a father to his children,

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Elisa and Carl Jr., and a grandfather to Trey, Naomi, Mari, James, and JT.

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Carl's most requested talks include Answering Skeptics, Does Genesis Matter?,

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What About Fossils?, What About Human Evolution?, and several others.

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But tonight he is going to be sharing his keynote talk for Reason for Hope's Becoming Bold Conferences, which is the same title of the book that he has authored.

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So we are blessed to have him with us tonight. Carl, go ahead. Well, thank you all.

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It was way too long of an introduction. Simplest one is Sinner Saved by Grace Through Faith in Christ, because that's really the only one that's worth anything.

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And so thank you all for letting us be with you. I know Dan reached out to me. I'm like, sure, man, let's do something, because our goal is to encourage the body of Christ to be excited about their faith.

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So in honor of having my buddy John and Juanita here tonight, he's talking about, we were talking earlier about doing illusions.

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So I'm going to do an illusion for you guys before we get started, if that's okay. Most of you have blacked out your screens, so I can't see your faces and see you hold up your hands anymore.

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So you're just going to have to play along. Now we got to do a little test here first. All right. When I say go,

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I want you to close your eyes, go 1 ,001, 1 ,002, open your eyes.

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Okay. Practice. You ready? Go 1 ,001, 1 ,002, open your eyes.

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All right. So everybody did that. I can't tell. But anyway, if you don't do the, if you don't follow the instructions, it's not going to work right.

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So here's my magic trick for you. You ready? Watch. Ready? Go 1 ,001, 1 ,002.

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I disappeared. The magic magic.

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So I know, but anyway, uh, becoming bold. Um, you know, guys,

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I, I, I I'm encouraged and I'm, I'm discouraged.

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And what I see going on in the culture right now, it's like in our culture, it it's like, there's so much negativity and animosity and fighting and anger.

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And that that's very disappointing. I mean, quite frankly, I haven't seen, um, my first, my class, my high school class was the first integrated class to graduate in Lexington, Virginia.

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Okay. And I haven't seen this level of animosity between people groups ever.

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And so that's kind of discouraging, but then when I flip it over, I look at it and say, you know what I'm also encouraged because just since all this craziness has happened,

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I've just seen in my own neighborhood here. I have never seen as many family units.

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Okay. Family units walking together down the street, just walking, being with each other, spending time with each other.

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Uh, the opportunity now to shine in the darkness is so, so prevalent.

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And, uh, so I'm encouraged by that, that we have an, I believe we just have an opportunity.

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I believe it's a short opportunity, quite frankly, uh, to really shine for the Lord Jesus Christ in this culture.

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And so I want to challenge folks to become bold because that's, what's really going to impact this generation are

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Christians who love the Lord with all their whole heart, soul, mind, strength, and are just willing to get out and, and, and, and let the

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Lord work through them. So, uh, I want to encourage you that no one, and I'll challenge you a little bit tonight.

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Now, uh, here's a hard thing. Uh, I speak quickly. So some of you,

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I apologize. It might be a little hard. I will try and slow down, especially through a medium of this, uh, you know, with lags and delays with video and stuff like that.

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I sure hope that doesn't become a hindrance to effective communication. I will do my best. Uh, I don't see your pictures up here.

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You've blocked yourself out. If there's something that you need, somebody is going to have to speak up or something like that, but I'm just going to run into it now.

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Uh, Ms. Terry shared the place that I've spoke. I've been real blessed. I've spoken all over the places, but I got to tell you, uh, one of the really neat places that I've, I've got to speak.

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And I was supposed to go back in about three weeks. I'm actually going to be in California in about two and a half weeks.

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I'm going to be out there speaking at a camp. And so, uh, I was after California, I was supposed to go over to Hawaii.

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And, uh, yes, it was ministry, but it's cool ministry. I'm not going to lie. Like 12, 13 places, including a public school that I was supposed to speak at.

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But one of the places that I got to speak was Molokai, Hawaii. And Molokai is probably one of my favorite places on all the, on the whole planet.

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And, uh, here's, here's the reason why it's beautiful. And the people are amazing. I was speaking to Molokai Baptist church and I'd set everything up.

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And, and, and so the, the worship team was setting up their practice. And so I walked outside the front of Molokai Baptist church and I saw this beautiful view and I had to take a picture of it and share it with you.

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So this is outside of Molokai Baptist church. And when I saw that, and I took that picture, uh, my wife was with me on this trip, my sister and her husband were with me and I went back in and I showed this picture to them and my assistant immediately looked at that picture and said, what a great picture of the cross.

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Can I be honest with you? When I took that picture, the cross wasn't what

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I had been focused on. I had been focused on the rainbow. And when, when that happened, it was like one of these things that just kind of hit me.

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I said, wow, you can have the same thing and just put a focus in a, in a different area, things can be right there in front of you and you can miss them.

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And I had, I hadn't, I did not see the cross when I took that picture. I truly hadn't. Well, that same year that my first time

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I went to Molokai that same year, I went and I spoke in Saskatoon, Canada. You ever heard of Saskatoon, Canada?

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I hadn't, I really hadn't, uh, flew up to it. It's way it's rural.

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It's way rural. Matter of fact, flew over a whole lot of nothing to get there. But when I got there, it was a really super encouraging time.

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Uh, people were so friendly and we had a great meeting, but what couldn't, what

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I couldn't believe is that when I got back from Saskatoon, Canada, I was watching the news one night and on the news, it was like police car chase in Saskatoon, Canada, and I'm like, are you kidding me?

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I just came from Saskatoon, Canada. And did, did you hear about the big police car chase in Saskatoon, Canada?

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Probably not. Well, I T vote it. So I've got a, I've got it here. So I'm going to play this video for you.

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So you can see this big police car chase and Saskatoon, Canada. Okay, Dan, I'm going to need you to help me here.

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Did that audio come through to you guys through the speaker? Yes, it did.

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It did. Okay, good. Um, now let me, uh, tell you that that is not a police car chase from Saskatoon, Canada.

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It's actually a Midas tire commercial, but I loved it. Okay. Here's my point to you.

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Um, think about it like this, that police officer job is really straightforward. We need, Hey, look, they need our prayers.

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I'm not trying to diminish police officers in any way, shape or form. They need our prayers, but his job is straightforward, right?

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Protect and serve, catch the bad guy. That's an easy day at the office when the bad guy stuck six foot in front of you with the tires spinning.

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I mean, all you got to do is get out of your car, walk up. You're under arrest. He didn't do it. What did he do?

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He got out and he pushed his car. Here's my points to you on this becoming bold thing.

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I've so many of us are intimidated, including myself. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not an outgoing person. I really, truly am not.

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I'm not an outgoing person. I am someone that will hide in a crowd. I, unless there's ministry involved,

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I'm not a crowd person. Uh, and so things can be right there in front of us.

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We can miss them. Just like in that first picture, things can be really easy and we make them hard, just like in that.

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Canadian police car chase. I think we need to make things simple. And when it comes to becoming bold, it truly is not that difficult.

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Let's start off with scripture. James one, uh, five tells us that if you lack wisdom, what are you supposed to do?

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And it's very simple. You're supposed to ask God. If you want to understand how you can have in America over 400 ,000 churches, there are more than 400 ,000 churches across the nation of America.

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We have more Christian shirts, Christian shoes, Christian wristbands, Christian, you name it. We got it. It's Christian.

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How in the world could you in a nation with 400 plus thousand churches, all this Christian stuff, get to where we are today, and I'm going to suggest you this because we're not asking the right source, including many sitting in church pews, who are we asking?

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Even if we claim the name Jesus, who are we asking when we lack wisdom? Asking God.

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I don't think that we are. And I believe a part of the reason why those sitting in church pews aren't asking of God is because of this next verse where it goes on to say, ask in faith, nothing wavering.

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Doubt. Look, this is a creation group. You guys understand this. Doubt is the tool that Satan has used from the very beginning.

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It was the very first tool that he used. Did God really say that? Because look, if I can get you to doubt

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Genesis one, you're never going to sell out for John 3, 16, and that's reality, Satan knows that.

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And that's why he's played so hard to destroy that first section of the scripture, because it destroys the foundation for the whole rest of the scripture, if he can get you to doubt the first book, why would you ever trust any of the rest of the books?

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And then you continue on in verse eight. It says this, a double -minded man is unstable in all of his ways. And I'm going to say to you that I genuinely believe that we have a culture of people sitting in church pews who are double -minded because they're trying to put one foot on the world's wisdom, one foot on the word of God, and those two foundations are not the same.

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And if a Christian, think about it, if a Christian isn't willing to put both feet firmly on the word of God, why should the world want anything to do with it?

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As a young man, I learned that straddling anything isn't good. Nothing good comes from it.

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So as a Christian, how do we get to this point where we can put both feet firmly on the word of God?

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We have to become bold. Why aren't we becoming bold? We have to identify those tools that are getting us that way.

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And the major one is doubt. All the way back, Genesis 3, 1, did God really say that? Now, I know what some of you possibly have heard, and I wish

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I could see it because it's so, I want to interact and that sort of a thing, but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that in this group here, that some of you have heard a claim like, well, there's no evidence for God, right?

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There's no evidence for God. So what we do at Reasons for Hope is we're going for the younger generation.

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All right. So mature generation that's here by now, you're like, okay, this isn't what we typically get. This guy speaks way too fast.

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All right. Show me some grace. Okay. I'm going after the younger generation.

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And the truth of it is that this younger generation has a 2 .2 second attention span.

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That is not a joke. That is the scientific research, 2 .2

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second attention span. So if I tried to get up in front of this generation today, we're going to done.

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You're not even going to get to that third word, man. And they're going to write you off. So I come at them quickly and moving and ADD.

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That's legitimately who I am squirrel. I mean, it is legit. That's just who

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I am. So we created these videos called debunked, and I don't know if you're familiar with them or not, but it's going after that.

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Oh, by the way, 2 .2 second attention span. That is less than a goldfish.

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A goldfish has a three second attention span. That is the scientific research.

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My question is, would you like to be the scientist that's trying to figure that out? Stopwatch goldfish.

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How do you know when they're paying attention? They're goldfish. That's the way my mind works. But anyway, so we're going after this generation.

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2 .2 seconds. How do we get them? How do we challenge them to just think and even consider that there might be another way?

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Well, this is the way that we do it. We show them a video. And so let me show you one of our videos called debunked.

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And it's one dealing with the claim that there is no evidence for God. And I just have to check this, forgive me real quickly, but I'm afraid that I'm not going out the right place on my audio, and I want you guys to have the right audio sound is going out through good.

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All right. So I should be correct here. Sorry. Forgive me. Just double checking. So here we go.

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No evidence for God. Really? Let's debunk that. We'll throw in the old one.

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I can let you find folks chat all about it. Okay. Punch one. I'm going to call the info. When's the last time you walked into a library and asked,

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Hey, where are all the books that have been written by mindless products of natural laws? The librarian would probably laugh at you and tell you that no such books exist and they don't exist because they can't exist.

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Why not? Because first of all, it's just common sense. The words that form the message in books always originate from a person with a brain, or to say it a bit more scientifically, the message of the book, the purpose comes to be understood by the orderly placement of the words, design and information, information.

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Now, anytime we find info, these basic laws always apply. Number one, matter doesn't spontaneously produce information.

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And number two, only a mental source intelligence can generate new creative information. In other words, just like those books that couldn't originate without a mind, neither could life.

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Why not? You ask? Because we know that DNA contains information. Therefore the laws of information science apply, which means the information that DNA couldn't have spontaneously generated and that a mind is behind the information period.

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No exceptions. Look at it this way. The simplest life form we know of is an amoeba and it contains as much information in its

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DNA as the thousand complete sets of Encyclopedia Britannica. So are we to believe that there's no way a message in a library book could spontaneously generate, but far more complicated messages in DNA that contain a thousand times more information could have?

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Not likely. You see, when it comes to life or anything else that contains information, the laws of information science confirm the necessity of a creative mind.

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And guess what? In the very first book of the Bible, it just happens to mention that in the beginning, God created BAM uppercut lands on the chin.

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And now here comes the indefensible head blow. We'll call this the not a big bang, big swing, the KO to the claim that there's no evidence of God.

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The law of causality left hook and doom. It goes like this. Everything that had a beginning had a cause. The universe had a beginning.

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Therefore the universe had a cause. Now either something caused the universe to come into existence or nothing caused it.

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I might not be the smartest guy behind the telescope, but I'm as practical ever, do you think it's going to lead me to the former? You have to work pretty hard to conjure up a way that nothing did it.

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You see, it's pretty improbable and impossible to account for design information and calls that the universe just exploded from nothing smack.

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And while we're on the topic, where did the matter come from that exploded? Are we really to believe that there was nothing and then it exploded and now they exploded nothing to something.

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And we just happen to be smart enough to discover and understand in the very laws that prove the opposite. And that the general understanding of the law of cause and effect is true.

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How can matter come from a lesser calls like nothing? I mean, come on, I don't have a bunch of the letters after my name, but even a monkey knows better.

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And yeah, I stuck in a couple of extra jabs. If you're so soon now for some parting words from our sponsor, it tells us in Romans one 20, that since the creation of the world,

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God's invisible attributes are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made, even this eternal power in Godhead.

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So they are without excuse. It also says that people actually know the truth, but they reject it, which explains why, even though there's overwhelming evidence that there is a

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God evidence won't convince the unwilling sad, but true. So there you have it with just a couple of meaningful blows.

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The claim that there is no evidence for God is down for the count. In other words, it's been debunked adios.

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Okay. I know what most of you are thinking. You're like, that was way too fast.

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I couldn't get all that intentionally. So we, we, I'm telling you, we intentionally created them in a way that it was like more information than the vast majority of people can take in a single setting.

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But we wanted to do it in a way that it was done well enough that people would pay attention to it. Not be embarrassed by it as a

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Christian to share it with their friends and that sort of a thing. So that was the whole, uh, the whole approach would let's create something, a little hook to get somebody to just pay attention, maybe watch it a couple more times to glean some information from it.

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So, uh, I'll tell you what, uh, by show of hands, how many of you out there, if I give this to you for free would take it.

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Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So a few of you, so here's what you got to do to get them for free. All right.

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It's free. I look, um, we're not trying to nickel and dime is they're totally free. What you're going to get after you fill that form out is you're going to get a link to all 15 of the current debunked videos.

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All right. There's 15 of them in addition, but wait, there's more. Uh, but we're not charging you a $20 shipping on this either.

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So all you got to do when you do that is, uh, you'll get the videos when the new ones come out in the future, and we're working on trying to do one every couple of two to three months.

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Depends on funding on them being real honest with you. Uh, but we put them out, we give them away free. You get them on the app.

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We send them to you before we release it to the general public. So you become a debunked offender when we do this to you.

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And in addition, those, those videos are so fast. We we've always known they were just meant to be a hook to get a conversation going.

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So we are now doing debunked TV. I actually flew out to California.

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I was out there just three weeks ago and we've got 15 episodes film. Now, uh, the first 13 are going to be edited by August one.

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Sending them to Milwaukee. There's a, there's a station up there, TV and radio station. Maybe you're familiar with it.

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VCY America, and they are playing debunked TV on their television station.

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And you can, if you get their free app, just look for VCY America. They've got really good conservative, uh, radio program as well as television programming.

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And, uh, you'll be able to watch the debunked TV on there, but you're going to have them on your own app because when we release them, you're going to get them before we release them to the general public as well.

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So it's a free tool that we want you to have so that you can do some ministry with it. Uh, you can also use our app.

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So there's my marketing. Take advantage of it. Again, these things are all free, truly, truly free.

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So I know what some of you may have experienced if you've ever talked with somebody and well, there's no evidence for God.

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And then you start talking about some of this design arguments and those types of things. And, and one of the comebacks will be, well, okay, well, if there's a

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God that created everything, then who created your God? By the way, can I get a show of hands? Anybody, anybody ever hear that question?

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Anybody? Anybody? One. Okay. One person. Two. Okay. Wow.

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You guys live in a great area. You don't get challenged away though. Oh, okay. There they go. Now I'm seeing them. Um, yeah,

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I mean, that's a biggie. Well, if your God created everything, then who created your God? Uh, by the way, by the way, uh, we have done a debunked on exactly that.

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So we've debunked that. If somebody made God, then who made God? Uh, would anybody like me to answer that question for you?

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Show of hands here. Anybody like me to answer that one? Show you the debunked video. Anybody? I'm not going to do it.

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No, man. It takes up too much time. I can't do it for you. Download those things for free of charge, and then you can watch it for yourself.

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Okay. Just do audios, CF, CFS 51555.

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Then you're going to get it for free for free, but I'll tell you what I do do. All right. This is what I do. Uh, when I get somebody that, well, if your

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God created everything, then who created your God and they think they have you, uh, I, I, I don't want to argue.

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I won't fight with people. God doesn't tell us to argue and fight. God tells us to give an answer, logical, rational explanation, why we believe what we say, we believe to do it with gentleness and respect, meekness and fear.

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Okay. But I think we can challenge people. Being bold is not about just being a patsy.

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I believe it is. You can be bold and, and, and be polite and be respectful and gentle and challenge people to think.

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So it's like, okay. Uh, so you want to know if I believe in a God that created everything, you want to know who created my

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God, I'll answer that question when you answer my question. Who created your gas?

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Think about it. Christian and non -Christian. We both have to have something. I don't care what your viewpoint is.

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Christian, non -Christian. We both have to have something that has no beginning, has no end.

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We both have to have it. So let's take a look at the two that we have here. Two options. Number one, in the beginning,

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God created something. So there's an intelligence that created something. If this is true, if what

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I read here in the scripture is true, when I look at the world around me, what I see in the world around me should be consistent with creation.

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Wow. Take a look at this. Take a look at this. Take a look at this. Take a look at this. And then share that creation. Screams it.

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Now, in the beginning, nothing created something. That's the option. All right.

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And that something was gas. And then over the course of 14 billion years, hydrogen gas exploded and became everything that we see.

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So, and we can talk about that. So which one is actually consistent with the evidence that we see in the world?

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Which one is it actually consistent with? In the beginning, God, or in the beginning, nothing, which turned into gas.

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And by the way, if you've got gas, Vino will help you with it, but I'm not going to go there.

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Okay. That's a, that's a different talk. We're just not going to talk about that. Keep this friendly. I do that. I challenge the people, man.

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I tweak people just to think about it. Here's the other thing that I do. Okay. And then I'll say, okay, do you really want to know?

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Okay. Then let me show you a video. So here, let me, let me share you a share a video with you. Ready? Here we go.

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I know exactly what some of you are thinking, because I've been doing this for a while. And even though I can't see your face, I can see your face and you're sitting there saying, what just happened?

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These people are asking if your God created everything, then who created your God? And you're going to show them a Tostitos commercial.

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Yes, I do. I absolutely do. Because again, this is one of those things you're expecting us to do one thing.

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And then we do this. We're like, what? You got their attention. So I show the Tostitos commercial. Then I asked him, okay, let me ask you a question here.

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Um, do you honestly, genuinely believe that a bag of chips can talk? Do you really honestly believe that? What do you think is going to happen?

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99 % of the time. No. Now there is that 1 % to say, well, yes.

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And it's like, look, those folks are really hard to have conversations with just being honest and more and more of them are popping up on college campuses.

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Just a tough group to reach, but most of them are going to say, no, we don't believe a bag of chips could talk.

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Okay. Um, how about this? Uh, anybody believe that, uh, uh, that a chip, just because it doesn't like the way that it looks anymore, that it can change its shape.

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A chip all by itself could change its shape. You believe that? What do you think they're going to say to you? Well, no, that's ridiculous.

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Oh, it's ridiculous to think that a bag of chips can talk or a chip can change its shape because it doesn't like the way that it looks.

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That's ridiculous. Then how come this isn't ridiculous? So if it's so ridiculous to think that a bag of chips can talk or chip can change its shape, why is it not more ridiculous to think that over the course of 14 billion years, hydrogen gas transformed itself itself and to mountains and butterflies and the music of Bach and you and I, and you think

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I have a problem because I believe there's a God that created the way that he said that he did. And everything that I see in the world around me screams that there's an intelligence that did this.

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You want me to give that up because you got nothing turning into gas. Look, I got one word for you.

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And I, I literally, I do this. If you think that hydrogen gas could transform itself into any, everything that we see in the world around us, give it enough time.

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I got one word for you. The younger generation gets that.

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Okay. They know what this is from princess bride. It is. It's inconceivable to believe that that could happen all by itself.

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By the way, by the way, I found this out. I found his baby picture. He looks the same today as when he was a baby.

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It's, it's, it's just mind blowing. Okay. So anyway, let's get into this thing. Now here's what

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I like to do. We like to do man on the street interview. So, um, by the way, we are going to be out on the street,

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September one to eight, bill Jack and I are going to get back together. We teamed up to do a video series at AIG a long time ago called demolishing strongholds, and we're going to team back up.

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We're going to start working together. Lord willing, at least once a quarter. I want to do it every other month, but we want to get out on the street.

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We take a, we've got the debunk bus. Okay. We take the bus. We get out on the street. We go into communities.

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A church gets their people together. We train them, go out, do you on the street evangelism, come back and debrief.

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And so September one to eight, we're going to be going from Florida all the way up to Wisconsin. So I'd ask you guys to pray for us as we do this man on the street stuff, because we're training a generation and it's going to be over a thousand folks that we're going to train in that, in that short amount of time, we've got some really good places set up to go do this stuff, but, um, let me show you some of the folks that, uh,

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I've had the privilege of seeing the interviews come by because, uh, Cordero was a young man that, uh, was interviewed and, and Adam was the young man that did the interview.

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And, and I want to just show you some videos because I want you to see what you run into out on the street here. Adam asked

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Cordero. He said, Cordero, do you read the Bible? Cordero responded with, yes, I do.

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So praise God. This is going to be a good interview because we got a Bible reader. And then he asked him, uh, where did everything come from Cordero?

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I'll give you four options. God created in six days. God used millions of years, intelligent design evolution over millions of years.

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And Cordero responded with the big bang theory.

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Definitely doesn't cover it to me. Um, as far as what I've learned throughout my lifetime,

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I just basically go along with the six days of creation. Isn't that great?

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Wow. That's awesome. Cordero reads the Bible. Cordero believes God created in six days. Isn't that great? Show of hands.

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Anybody, anybody in that great, awesome. Wonderful. Yeah, no, that was horrible.

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Couldn't you hear the hesitancy in the way that he responded? Think about this for a second. I look, I'm not trying to be mean.

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I really am not. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. The way I was raised, think about this.

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If this is the way that we are trained in a generation to go out into this culture and to share their faith. Well, the way I was raised, do you really genuinely honestly believe that that's going to work in this culture?

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What makes the way that you were raised any better than the way that I was raised? It becomes one of these battles back and forth.

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I just kind of go along with, do you, do you hear the hesitancy in the way that he responded?

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We have a generation that mine, quite frankly, that may claim

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Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, but we were raised with just believe. Why?

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Because I said, so at least I was, that was the, that was my culture. I knew stand up, sit down, kneel.

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I knew ritual. I knew when the offering plate was coming. I knew all that stuff, but I didn't know Jesus. You could get away with that when

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I was being raised because the culture was different. It wasn't as antagonistic and anti -Christian as it is today.

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That is not going to work with this culture. They are going to come after you. How about the next question?

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Do you believe the Bible contains mistakes or errors? Well, let's take a look and see how Mr. Cordero approaches that. There's confidence.

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There are definitely some things that I read that seem kind of shaky to me. Let's be honest guys.

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We're done. If Genesis one is shaky, then why is John 3, 16 so solid?

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Satan understands this. It's why he's done what he has done to get a generation to doubt any portion of the scripture.

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Cause once they doubt any of it, the rest of it's not going to stand firm. Period. How about this one?

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How did we get so many different races? If we all go back to one man and one woman Cordero, that's what the Bible says. How'd you get the black people, white people, blue people, green people, yellow people.

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How'd you get all those different colored people? By the way, if you can't answer that question, why should

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I trust you on anything else? And by the way, if you don't think that's a big issue in our culture, you have not been turning the news on here recently.

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Do you understand that all this craziness that's going on right now, all this animosity between people groups, there's only one answer.

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His name is Jesus. And until the body of Christ is willing to stand on that, not compromising on that,

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I can't support any group, any, I don't forget about names. Any group that wants to sacrifice the scripture for quote unquote unity.

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You can't do it because if you truly want unity, it's only going to come from one place,

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Jesus Christ. We are all related. There's one man, one woman we all go back to.

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And if you don't have that, you got nothing. And that history that we are given to teaches us that teaches us marriage as a man and a woman for life.

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We get all these things. You lose that history, you lose the future.

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But I digress. We'll get to it. How about this one? Science has proven that the earth is millions of years old. The Bible teaches that there was no death before Adam sinned.

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Come on Cordero. The Bible is true. How do you explain fossils? 100, 200, 300 million years old.

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Adam didn't live 300 million years ago. How do you explain those dead things long before Adam ever came onto the scene?

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How do you do that Cordero? It's really hard to say.

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Like I'm saying, my personal opinion, just from the way

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I was raised, I go along with the biblical definitions of most things, but I guess

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I really couldn't answer that question. And until we raise a generation that is able to answer that question, we're not going to see any difference in this culture around us.

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If all we are sending out is a generation of, well, I believe this. Why? Because that's what my mom and dad believed.

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And that's just the way that it is. And are not able to give an answer for the reason for the hope that lies within them and are not bold.

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Come on, Carl. Why are you beating us up, man? Lighten up just a little bit. We're staying up late, listening to you talk, and you're going to beat us up like this?

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Okay. Let's lighten it up. How'd they get two of every seven of some 10 boon species of animals on a wooden boat?

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How'd they do that Cordero? Take a listen. Once again, sorry if this doesn't help much, but no clue.

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I think we need to have a clue. I really do. By the way, the answers to those questions that were asked in here.

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There's debunked videos on every one of those. Take them, use them, use them.

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You know, answers to them. Praise God. Then use the video as a catalyst to get a conversation started. Here's our goal.

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This is what we do at reasons for hope. It's like, let's get out here. Let's challenge a generation to think. So let me illustrate it like this.

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Okay. Um, simple, simple illustration here. How do they get the balls to roll up hill?

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Now I'm a nice guy, so I'm going to help you out here. There's no, no reverse photography.

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Okay. Put it in reverse. Nope. None of that going on. There's no magnets and there's no air blowing the things uphill.

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That was a really good guess. And somebody gave, there's none of that. So the first thing that I teach younger generation, which the next three weeks,

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I'm doing nothing but camps, two in Nebraska, one in California, it's like. The first thing that I challenged them is when somebody asks you a question, you better question the question.

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And what I mean by that is people can ask you questions in such a way that you can't give a correct response.

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And that's exactly what that question did. How did they get the balls to roll uphill? What we should be asking is.

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Are the balls rolling uphill? Now that's a very good question. Let me illustrate it for you and show you the exact same thing, but let's look at it from a different perspective so that when

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I asked you the question again, how do they get the balls to roll uphill? Your response would be, well, they don't, but did it not look as if they were rolling uphill from a certain perspective?

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Here's the point guys. We do not have an evidence problem in the world today. Christian and non -Christian all have the same evidence.

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We have an interpretation of evidence problem. And that interpretation of evidence problem has blown up because of a worldview problem.

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The vast majority of this younger generation that I'm dealing with, Dan's dealing with, John's dealing with, anybody that's here that's dealing with ministry, the vast majority of the kids that we're running into are being raised in government schools that are being trained by the world to think like the world or compromising

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Christian schools. Really solid biblical authoritative schools are few and far between.

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So imagine this, the average time a young person spends in school is 900 hours a year, 900 hours a year is the average time a young person spends in school.

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And in that 900 hours a year, they are taught a history of astronomy, biology, geology, anthropology, chemistry that absolutely undermines the word of God.

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They're being taught a secular history that undermines what we see in the scripture, take a look.

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Astronomy, think about it. Is there a history of astronomy? Yes. Big bang, millions of years. You guys had

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Jason Lyle on here, right? Jason's phenomenal. Does a great job with the astronomy stuff. But he's talking by and large to a generation that has been taught a totally different history.

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So what do we need to do? Bible give a history on astronomy? He talked with you about it. Did he not? Yes, he did.

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What does the Bible say? Well, God said he created earth on day one. God said he created the sun, moon, and stars on day four.

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Is that astronomy? Does it pertain to astronomy? Absolutely. It does.

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So the question therefore becomes what I see in the world, is it consistent with what

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God said or with what man said? Simple illustration. I'm a simple man.

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You had the deep stuff. Here's the way that I do this. Rubber meets the road. How many observable stars are there in the sky?

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And I'll help you. It's a big number. It's a seven followed by 22 zeros.

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And I am still trying to figure this out. Who invented counting? If you were to leave counting up to me, let's go back in the day and say,

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Carl, you need to invent counting. Okay. Uh, we'd get to 25, 10, 15, 20, 20.

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We don't need any numbers bigger than 20. That's it. 20. That's it. 20.

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I mean, come on. I don't need it. You got a seven followed by 22 zeros. Who invented this? Do you know how big that number is?

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May I illustrate it for you, please? Thank you very much. I'm going to 76 trillion is greater than the estimated number of grains of sands on the world's beaches and desert.

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There are more observable. This is not all the stars, observable stars than grains of sand on every beach and desert on our planet.

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And I can see your faces. I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking right here, John. You're not impressed. I mean,

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Jim, you're not, what's wrong with you guys? You're not impressed. Yes. Shouldn't be impressed. You know why? Because it's actually 10 times more stars than grains of sand.

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Are you kidding me? There's no, no mechanism to make a single star from gradualistic processes and hydrogen gas coming out of nothing where the gas cover.

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Oh, nothing. We do a whole talk on that. Something from nothing. Oh, that's a good talk to do. Sometimes let's let

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Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss talk on that one. Ridiculous. There's no known explanation on how you get a single star from naturalistic processes.

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And we have that many observable stars. And by the way, you shouldn't be impressed with this at all because the total number of stars,

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Oh, stick with me. The total number of stars, including the ones that we cannot see. What's that last word?

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Some people think it is infinite. I'm going to tell you right now. The first time

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I read this quote, I nearly went charismatic. I did almost raised a hand and said, amen.

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And that's charismatic in me, man. I look, I was raised in the church. You stint, you stare and you can blink every three seconds.

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Okay. We're good. Oh, he blinked in two guys. I have to go.

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Amen. You know why you would need an infinite God to create an infinite number of from nothing, speak them into existence from nothing and know them all by name.

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That's the God that we serve. You think the Bible doesn't deal with astronomy? It absolutely does. But how about, how about biology?

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900 hours a year reinforced with 1 ,064 hours of TV, by the way. Yes. That's the average time a young person spends watching

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TV. 900 hours in a school, 1 ,064 watching TV and, and, and let's not walk away from video games.

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How many hours doing video games? 936 hours a year is the average time this generation is spending on video games.

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Guys. They're learning in every one of those mediums, for the most part, they're learning a history of biology that undermines the word of God.

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Oh yes. You got ape like creature who in Africa turned into the black folks and the black folks started eating fish.

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Some of them eat fish and that spurred brain development and they got smart. And then some of those smart black folks moved up north and turned white.

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And you wonder why we have a problem with racism. And the church wants to adopt this.

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Well, God used evolution. Are you kidding me? God said, he said, what one man, one woman, one race, human race.

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And by the way, what does science show? Is it consistent with what God said or with what man said?

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Well, why chromosome passed from father to child shows that we all go back to one man could have saved a lot of time and money on that research, mitochondrial

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DNA passed from the mother to the child. Could have saved a lot of time and money on that research. First Corinthians 1545 tells us we go back to one man.

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Genesis three 20 tells us we go back to one woman. Guys, what we see in the world is consistent with what we read in the word.

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Hands down. But Carl, what about the skin colors? Come on, your creation group. You've got somebody that deals with these talks and does these talks.

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You know, all about the melanin and the way that they interact. You guys have all that. I'll let you do that.

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But I had to bring in a conservative source to back up my, uh, my, uh, claim here that there's one race, the human race,

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Huffington post, real conservative source, that's a joke. Thank you very much. Guess what?

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We now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we all go back to one man and one woman and wait for it. This is going to shock you.

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Put your seatbelt on that one man. And that one woman lived at the same time.

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I know you're shocked. You can get back up out of your chair, off the floor, back into your chair. I'll give you a second.

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I'm like, duh, it's not going to work any other way. You know what I'm saying? That's not going to work.

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You got to have a man and a woman living at the same time. If you want to get all these folks that we have today, that's what

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God said. But, but, but Carl geology, look, we had to cancel our, our dinosaur dig this year, please come dig dinosaur bones with us next year, please come dig dinosaur bones with us next year.

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If you can't dig dinosaur bones with me, I don't do the, uh, the grand Canyon trips anymore. I did them for a long time.

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Answers to Genesis still does them. Uh, I think ICR still does them. Uh, but Canyon ministries, just go to Canyon ministry .org.

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You get John Albert to speak on here. If you want his contact to give his contact info, have John come on here and speak with you guys, man.

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John's a, I love John. He's, he's a great guy. But when you see that the folding and I'm not going to go all through all this stuff, but when you go down the grand

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Canyon and you're looking at the folding and the, the ages of the rocks and the missing layers and all that stuff looks the rocks cry out now, why would we do this?

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Why, why is what you're doing as a creation science fellowship? You know, well, Oh, why would we do this?

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You know why you do this? At least I hope because there's a generation that's out there that needs to know that the word of God is true and trustworthy from the first verse.

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And the world is using a tool that really supports what, what, what the word teaches, but they're using it to turn them against it.

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Watch this. This is a quote from a lady from San Diego. As a matter of fact, for you Californians, she's from San Diego.

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She teaches at San Diego state, a head of the psychology department, Jean twins, and she wrote this book a number of years ago.

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And if you want to read something that's going to knock your socks off, take a look at this book. It's unbelievable.

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The research that she did, but here's one quote from it. Many young people feel a disconnect between their church and what they experience outside of it, including science, pop culture, and sexuality.

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For example, half of the 13 to 17 year olds want to pursue a science related career, yet only 1 % of youth pastors say they have addressed any subject related to science in the last year.

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This is why what you guys are doing is important. This is why I would pray that you would make some attempt to try to get that younger generation involved with you, because there is a hunger in this area, but we have to communicate in such a way that they'll listen.

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And sometimes us more mature folks, we have to set aside some of our preferences. Did I say compromise?

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Did I say water down? No, but the way that we deliver the message, we need to be creative in the way that we do it.

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Hence debunked TV debunked videos and a way to try to get a generation to pay attention because they're interested.

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But watch Mike 20, who was invited to tell a room full of pastors why he no longer affiliates with Christianity said,

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I'm as nervous as an atheist at a pastor's conference. He began, but then he said, I was in 10th grade. I started learning about evolution.

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I knew from church that I couldn't believe in both science and God. So that was it. I didn't believe in God anymore. What church is teaching a generation that they can't believe in science and God a lot, unfortunately, because we have a church quote unquote, that isn't solid in their faith and they're not bold in their faith.

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They have compromised and watered down the word of God and allowed it to get relegated to fairytale fable status. Because if we're honest guys, if we're honest, what

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I see being preached in the pulpits today is we need morals. We need morals.

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I mean, come on. We're Christians and we don't smoke. We don't drink. We don't chew. We don't date girls that do. We don't like that longer stuff.

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We don't like that pierced and we don't like that tat thing very much either. We have morals.

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We're Christians and I'm sitting here in my head saying, guys, hold up. Do you understand that these morals, the only reason that they're true and accurate is because of the history.

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Think about it. Why is marriage one man, one woman for life? Because I think so. You think so. Law of the land states it.

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No, because now we're voting on it. And if I get the majority in my corner, it changes.

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Why is marriage one man, one woman for life? Because there's a God that created the way that he said that he did. And he instituted this marriage to be a man and a woman for life.

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It doesn't matter if I like it or not. Why is abortion wrong? Because I think so. You think so.

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Law of the land states it. No, because God said that you're killing a child from the point of conception, you're a human being.

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You can be never, you can never be anything other than a human being. Look, here's my point to you. I see people who want

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Christian morals, but they don't care about the Christian history.

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And I believe strongly that if you don't have the Christian history, you're not going to keep the

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Christian morals because those morals are dependent on the history.

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So we have a church that's pushing the morals and eternity. Oh, get saved, get saved for all eternity.

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And praise God, that's true. But look, if the book that tells us about the morals and tells us about the history has given us a bunch of fables and the world's given us a bunch of facts, which one do you think this generation is going to go to 900 hours a year in school, 1064 in front of a

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TV set, 936 playing video games, being taught a history of astronomy, biology, geology, anthropology, chemistry, totally undermining the word of God.

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And we're going to come along in an hour a week with our little Bible stories and fairy tales and change this culture until the body of Christ is willing to sell out for the

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Lord Jesus Christ and his word and become bold. We're not going to change what we see.

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I see a generation that we've turned against Christianity. Me, it was me.

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I went to church. I was taught good boys don't ask those questions. Children to be seen and not heard.

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When you ask these questions, well, how'd they fit all the animals on the boat? What did they do?

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They gave me the rinky dinky boat pictures with the Ark and all that. So now we raise this generation with that image and then they grow up.

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And what do we expect them to do? And if you don't think that picture is having an impact, you're going to have

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Dan do his talk on mything the boat, man. Don't myth the boat because they've turned it into a myth.

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And we see this in the culture. And that picture right there comes from a secular book that I'll never forget when

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I used it. I was in a, I was in a youth group and I was speaking to a church and the church said, Hey, would you talk to our youth group before you do the service?

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I said, sure. I walk in. I'd never spoken at this church. He didn't know who I was and I didn't show any images.

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I didn't show any pictures. I just got up in front of these guys and said, Hey, name's Carl, this is what I deal with. You guys got any questions, anything we can try and deal with, you know, encouraging your faith.

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First hand up 18 year old young lady graduating the public high school, getting ready to go off to college.

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She, her hand shoots right up, right. I mean, boom, right out of the gate. I'm like, great. And her question was, how do they fit the whales on the boat?

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I laughed. That's funny. You're serious.

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Yes. These pictures are having an impact. We got guys like this.

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Oh, this guy really likes us. Now it's time to turn to 13.

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Noah's ark. Read along. There's no way you can get two of everything on a boat. Animals and arts is kind of silly.

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It's just a little far fetched. And this guy, he likes us. Retained all 10 billion species, uh, on a single boat and then distributed them appropriately where the marsupials are all in Australia and so forth.

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This is just ridiculous. It is so ridiculous. I find it embarrassing for people who attempt to prove that it's true.

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And the vast majority of Christians in the church use would truly, genuinely struggle to give an answer.

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Why they believe that it happened as well. That's why I believe what you guys are doing is so important because you're teaching a generation, not what to think, but how to think.

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I hope I pray. You see when this generation is asking that question, they deserve an answer and not me pointing them off on somebody.

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Instead of saying, oh, you need to go ask the Sunday school teacher. You need to go ask your teacher. You need to go ask your pastor. We need to be saying,

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Hey, that's a really good question. Let's open up the word of God and see what it has to say about it. And by the way, one of the tools we want to give you is the debunked and guess what, one of the questions that we debunk in there is how do they fit all the animals on the boat?

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I'm not going to do that one for you either. Cause I have to finish. My time is almost up, but if you do that, adios.

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Space CFS, you're going to get that debunked as well for free. But here's the reason why

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I'm so fired up and passionate about this, because I'm seeing a generation that needs once is begging for the mature generation to pour into them.

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We're taking young folks on this, on this bus trip, we're taking young folks, training them and then turning them loose to go do ministry.

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Please pray for us. Your parent, your grandparent. Grandparents, uh, many times, oh, hands up.

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Oh, I throw my hands over. Oh, it's so look, don't throw your hands up. Don't give up. This younger generation needs this mature generation, loving on them and pouring into them.

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Sitting down over a meal, having a conversation, showing them how to apply their faith in the real world.

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We have to do it. The reason I do this very simply is because I want a generation when challenged to be able to not get taken away, but to be a light, giving an answer to these issues.

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And this is an opportunity that we have. I left very big ministry.

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Number two, most requested speaker, very successful. This is our 10th year. All right.

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As a small ministry going and talking to whoever camps, I'm doing camps.

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Why? Because about 11 years ago, I got so convicted.

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My son came to me and said, dad, you're going to be a grandfather. And my heart flipped.

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These are my grandchildren. Uh, I got, you were heard about in the five of them. That's all of them right there.

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Uh, and by the way, there's a reason I show grandbaby pictures because I've said some hard things and people are like, man, that dude's a jerk.

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He's mean. And then you show grandbaby pictures and everybody's like, Ooh, what a nice guy. They forget about the hard stuff.

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Please don't forget about the hard stuff. I'm not trying to be mean. We have to speak honest and straight. But when

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I heard that I was going to be a grandfather, my heart was like, wow. What I see going on in the culture right now scares me.

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I'm talking to people that are preteen doing things that I did when

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I was in my teens, I wrecked three cars from drunk driving. You name the drug. I did it bad. And I'm talking to preteens that are even worse than me.

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And this is the generation at that time, 10, 11 years, 11 years ago, that's going to be pointed to my grand children.

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So I made a conscious effort. I said, I have got to go after this younger generation because they're going to reach my grandchildren's generation.

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That's why I do what I do the way that I do it. Go out on the street, talk to people.

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I can show you video after video, after video, Cordero, Angela, uh, Jim, people laugh at the

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LB here, this is LB. People laugh at LB. It was 11 o 'clock in the morning. He was drunk. PhD candidate, university of Michigan.

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We're out on the streets of Michigan and he comes up and he is drunk and they asked him a question. So, uh,

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LB, where do you place your hope? LB's response was hope. You live, you die, you rot.

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And that's all there is to it. My heart breaks for LB.

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We have a message of hope. Are we willing to open our mouth and share that hope with someone?

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Unless we're bold, unless we're able to trust the Lord, uh, the word of God from the first verse to the end, we won't do it.

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We just won't. So this is why I believe it's so important that we, body of Christ, get serious about our faith and start studying to show ourselves approved and preparing ourselves to give an answer for the reason for the hope that lies within us.

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Now, do I believe that my apologetic, my arguments are going to change people? No, that's not my job. It's not my job.

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I love apologetics for one major reason, because God told me to do it. Knowing that my arguments aren't going to convict or convert anybody.

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That's the Holy Spirit's job. But that is why I do apologetics to ultimately preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, because look, it's at the name of Jesus that every knee is going to bow and every tongue is going to confess.

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We can argue about the number of stars. We can argue about the uniqueness of this and the creative, all those things.

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Amazing. Love it. But unless we tell them about Jesus, we have nothing.

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And I'll end with this short video, then we'll open it up if you want to talk. And a short video showing you why

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I think it's important that we study apologetics and give an answer, because we have a generation out there that needs this to happen.

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suffering in the world is a comforting thought. However, it is only wishful thinking.

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People can do as they please without internal consequences. The idea that I am deserving of hell because of sin is a lie meant to make me a slave to those in power.

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The more you have, the happier you can be. Our existence has no grand meaning or purpose.

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In a world with no God, there's freedom to be who I want to be. But with God, life is an endless cycle of guilt and shame.

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Without God, everything is fine. It is ridiculous to think I am lost and in need of saving.

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And that's how I felt before Christ opened my eyes, changed my heart, and reversed my thinking.

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I am lost and in need of saving. It is ridiculous to think everything is fine without God.

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Life is an endless cycle of guilt and shame. But with God, there's freedom to be who

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I want to be. In a world with no God, our existence has no grand meaning or purpose.

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The more you have, the happier you will be is a lie meant to make me a slave to those in power.

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Because of sin, I am deserving of hell. The idea that people can do as they please without internal consequences is only wishful thinking.

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It is a comforting thought, however, that an all powerful God brings purpose to the pain and suffering in the world, that there is an all -knowing

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God with a cosmic plan. It's foolish to think God does not exist. I will live my life according to these beliefs.

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And that's our goal, is to see that take place. Apologetics is one of those very powerful, effective tools that I have seen and believe will continue to be a tool that helps make that happen.

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Our website is simply RFORH .com. Remember, if you want to get our app, it's

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Reasons for Hope, and take advantage of those free debunked videos. So I'll open it up.

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I think Ms. Terry is the one that's going to facilitate any questions that may have come up during this.

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And I thank you guys again for the opportunity. Good to see John again. Haven't seen

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Mr. Swalmey there for a while and some of the other folks there. So God bless you guys. Thank you,

01:01:45

Mr. Jeff and everybody that joined this. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Carl. That was a really great presentation.

01:01:53

And we only have one question so far, and I don't know if you, if you must have mentioned something earlier in the presentation that that's prompted this question, how do we go on a dinosaur dig?

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Do you have an answer for that? Yeah, I do. And I'm glad that's the question that's asked because I tell everybody

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I'm so smart. I can answer every question asked in three languages. That was me. I want to hear it in German.

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Okay. Well, no, I, I, every question I can answer in three languages because my answer is, I don't know, but I do know the answer to this one.

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I know how to say, I don't know in three languages. Um, but for this one, it's very simple. You can come with us.

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We'll, we'll be marketing on our, uh, you know, if you get on our mailing list, like when you sign up on our thing, you could sign up to get on our mailing list and you'll get a notice from us, um, where we'll take people.

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If you don't want to come with us, you could go with, uh, there's the group there in Glendive, Montana.

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And, um, he's a guy that you might have come on here and speak as well. He's a, he's a good, good friend and Glendive dinosaur and fossil.

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I want to make sure I get it right. I met him at the homeschooling convention in Nashville.

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Yeah. Robert Kanin is his name and, uh, Glendive dinosaur and fossil museum.

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Good. That's it. And so he's, he's a great guy. They, they take people out on digs. I take people out on digs.

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Uh, you can do that. And, uh, if you're, if you want, I'll give you their work number. I'll just give you their work number.

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The Glendive dinosaur and fossil museum. It's 4 0 6. Ah, I called it 4 0 6 3 7 7 3 2 2 8.

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Just call up Robert and, uh, say, Hey, we want to come on a dinosaur dig. You can go with him or you can ask him what groups he's got coming.

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I think Buddy Davis does one every other year or something like that. I've been doing one every year. I don't think anybody's doing any digs this year though.

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I think they're all canceled this year because of this whole COVID thing. Cause that's what, that's what Robert told me.

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He had to cancel all their digs this year. It really stinks. It's outside. It's like, come on. But anyway.

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Okay. Carl, on that same topic, do you get to keep any of the fossils if you find some? Yeah. Depending on what you find.

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If you find T -Rex, no. If you find bird, no. Um, but there's a lot of Edmontosaurus out there.

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Oh, shoot. It's upstairs. I'd show you some of the stuff that I found. Yeah. I left my stuff's up upstairs in my office.

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Uh, last year I found an Edmontosaurus toe bone about yay big, uh, juvenile toe bone, and it was complete.

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There was just one crack in it. I mean, just one crack with a little bit of missing stuff in there. So I I've got that, but we've had folks that have found, uh, all kinds of stuff.

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We've actually found T -Rex teeth, but they keep them of course, because they get a thousand dollars an inch on a

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T -Rex tooth. Um, so you're going to, everybody goes home with something.

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Everybody goes home with something. You're not going to not find a bone. They won't say that to you.

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I will. There's just so many of them. They're just, it's everywhere. So have you personally seen, um, dinosaur soft tissue?

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I have not. Now where we dig our bones though is where Mark Armitage got his, uh, 44 inch triceratops brow horn.

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That's where we're digging them. So I've only seen the images of that. I didn't get to see that. Uh, cause Otis Klein was the guy that used to run this and he's retired and turned it over to Robert.

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Um, Robert took me out and was showing me where they got all that stuff. But I had, I've not seen the soft tissue.

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There was a group that was supposedly going to be sending some out to me and I've never received it.

01:05:43

Um, Dan suggested that you talk about the difference between the enough said videos, the answers and Genesis uses, and then your debunked video videos.

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Um, well the, the answers in Genesis videos, the, uh, check this out. Is that the one you're talking about?

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Um, I, maybe that's what they're called. I think at the end, they always say enough said. So yeah, let's check this out.

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Okay. Check this out. Well, here's what happened at AIG.

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I wrote and did the debunked video. Uh, the very first one was couldn't fit all the animals on the boat.

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I took it to AIG and I'm just shooting you straight. What happened? They looked at it, hated it, hated it, said no way way too fast, way too much information.

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And I'm like, yeah, but that's the generation that I'm trying to reach for like new. So, um, then

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I went back to the drawing board and came up with check this out. And that pulled out the tongue and cheek humor, slowed it down a little bit and kind of made it a little bit more bland.

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I'm not being mean here, just toned it down a hair. And so they like check this out.

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So created all the check this out. That was the last thing that I finished before leaving AIG. And then when

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I left AIG, I was like, oh, they rejected debunked. So I still own it. And so that's why

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I do debunked videos. I, I created, it was Bob and I that created the check this out videos, but we're also the ones that do the debunked videos as well.

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So it's the same creators, but they just AIG owns those. Cause I did it for them when

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I was with them. And now I own debunked cause it's us. That explains why they seem familiar.

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Very similar. Same voice, same voice does them. Same, same group did all the animation and everything.

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It's just like I said, we, if you listen to them, they don't have like, like I said, they don't have the tongue in cheek humor sort of a thing.

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Cause I, I like, I like, I like a jab where somebody hits you with something and they're like 10, 15 seconds down the road and you're like, oh, he just hit me.

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You know, that's me. Okay. That video was a little fast for me, but they are so they are, but here's the thing.

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Put them down in front of a, a junior high, high school, younger generation. And it's crazy.

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It is absolutely crazy when I'm speaking in a church and I put those things on. The kids lock, they just think different.

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Um, when I was watching that video, the debunked video, what I was thinking about was how

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I feel when I try to look at, um, stories on Facebook, they go by so fast and I like to focus and see what

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I'm doing and I'm like that, but that's what they like, so yeah, I totally get it. It's crazy.

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I tell, I just tell the mature folks, it's like, guys, these aren't really designed for you. They're just designed for this generation that speed me, feed me, feed me.

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I'm not saying it's right. Um, we've created this quite frankly, in my humble opinion, the vast majority of ADD in this world today, we created it when you sit in front of this thing and we've created it, so I can sit here and say, well,

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I don't like it. And I'm going to show them, uh, Davey and Goliath. I grew up on claymation,

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Davey and Goliath. Yeah, right. Show it to this generation. Like, are you kidding me?

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They're gone. Now there's still a segment out there that watches Davey and Goliath. I'm not kicking them off totally to the curb, but the vast majority are not going to watch

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Davey and Goliath the way that I did. I grew up on that. Yeah.

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I miss Davey and Goliath. I loved it. I grew up, Gumby, dude. I, I, I grew up on that stuff.

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And the theme song, a mighty fortress is our God, right? That's one of the ways I learned it.