February 13, 2018 Show with Dr. Dewey Roberts on “Samuel Davies: Apostle to Virginia”

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Introducing Samuel Davies and the Book on His Life

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His name is. Dr Dewey Roberts who is an author and he's the pastor of Cornerstone Presbyterian Church of Destin, Florida. And today we are addressing his beautiful 436 page hardback book Samuel Davies Apostle to Virginia and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio.

Dr. Dewey Roberts.

And it's my honor to be on I really appreciate it very much.

And before we go into the heart of our discussion today in regard to Samuel Davies Why don't you tell our listeners who did not? Hear you on the show the last two times you were on. Tell our listeners something about Cornerstone Presbyterian Church of Destin, Florida.

And your congregation is a member of the PCA otherwise known as the Presbyterian Church in America. Denomination, correct.

That is right. Yes, and I've been a in this denomination before. Well, praise God for that.

Well, I want to read a quote About the man that we are going to be discussing today Samuel Davies by someone whom I'm sure is a very readily recognizable name from the vast for the vast majority of Our listeners in the iron sharpens iron radio audience.

I'm speaking of dr. D. Martin Lloyd-Jones. He said of Samuel Davies The greatest preacher you have ever produced in this country was Samuel Davies the author of the hymn Great God of Wonders all the ways are Matchless godlike and divine and a man who followed Jonathan Edwards as president of Princeton.

That's a pretty Powerful endorsement by the Welshman dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones about this Son of America Samuel Davies. First of all out of all the people that have blessed the body of Christ over the last 2 ,000 years why did you pick Samuel Davies to write a For whom to write a biography.

Interesting how this all came to Samuel Davies when I was in seminary I didn't know a lot about him because there simply wasn't much material. Noah's. I decided to take a few hours and try to find Volumes of a four-volume set.

This is great. So that Readed my app and then interestingly enough I mentioned it one time to to write a biography a long time because any substantial biography There were smaller biographical notices great.

Well, I am going to now read an endorsement for this book exactly from the forward by a very dear brother in Christ and Jeff Thomas who I had the privilege of interviewing on iron sharpens iron radio, and I hope to have many more opportunities To interview this dear brother in Christ but Jeff Thomas.

Who is a pastor emeritus of Alfred Place Baptist Church in Aberystwyth Wales? And I learned how to pronounce that from Jeff Thomas because otherwise I never would have been able to pronounce it correctly.

Reading the life of Samuel Davies is a practical enterprise not something theoretical or archaeological. Remembering him is to honor one who stood fast for the central important truths of the Christian religion.

His life and opinions can encourage our own generation to believe in God and his glorious grace. And I will read one more Endorsement by dr. Michael a Milton professor of missions and evangelism at Erskine theological seminary.

Dewey Roberts should be commended for this generous work in bringing forth this great American Presbyterian clergyman. Back to the vanguard of spiritual giants where Davies belongs. For this Samuel Davies who stirred the spirit of a young Patrick Henry.

May well be the one who stirs the spirit of some young person now to serve God in a new day. Another powerful endorsement. Well, tell us something about the childhood of Samuel Davies. The the religious atmosphere especially of his youth if any and how.

Providentially the Lord drew him to himself and saved him. Yeah, sure.

Sure very good idea and.

I've looked at it and studied it. This is why I think that in Samuel Davies the Battle of Colt anybody In the United States and then in the Battle of Cold Harbor in Virginia. The church where Davies put that on fire and burned down by some kids were fighting one another.

And it's very interesting that it seems like that with the burning down of his church. All memory of Davies theologian and I think he is the brewer of the finest lager that.

America has ever tasted. Oh, I'm sorry. That's Samuel Adams.

I.

Don't think that that persecution ended in Britain. I think the some of our heroes who were Puritans unfortunately had their share in persecuting the Quakers.

Yeah, well from that and even with the pointed out product of that environment. His father had his mother he had married and then his first Pennsylvania Today are Delaware. That's where he but Thomas be.

Thomas earlier saw him at our Russian. You think that for him to Martha Thomas and therefore a relative of Samuel Davies somehow he kind of discounted it. But I think he might be Somewhere another back because he's from Wales and she was from Wales.

But then Davies father and they continued there for a while now. Chris, you're not gonna like this next part very well. A couple weeks ago when I made a statement about infant baptism, you're not gonna like this next part.

Davies mother wanted education. She wanted to be a son to read. Because she didn't know how to read English herself about that. Well, the the long and the short of it is the Baptist Church. Kicked her out of the church.

Wow. Samuel Davies became a country that well now he's one of the greatest Baptist.

Pastors in heaven because we know that all things are made perfect.

A.

Quaker minister who was to Pennsylvania up to Hopewell, New Jersey.

Yes, I am familiar with Hopewell.

Yeah, he went up there for to study under William Robinson at the time. He was not arrangement not only from. From the Lord and again practice getting down on his knees. The colonial days. They had worked in now.

I lay me down to sleep. I pray the Lord my soul to that was a very Important prayer. Many of them didn't make it to it. Something like don't. Wow. The Lord was working was not at that time. Nothing about the start.

God was working in his way in the life of Samuel Davies. And so Kenneth and his brother William Robinson always marked his giving him a new heart. So then he knew. Shut down the school kind of like Primary that you might want to add.

Well, I know that the.

Great Awakening Did have impact in Virginia and I don't know if I'm going too far ahead for your comfort here in the story. But where does Samuel Davies come to play being the Apostle to Virginia as he has been nicknamed?

Tell us something about the Great Awakening.

The Great Awakening and Gilbert Tennent’s Warning to Unconverted Ministers

Okay, well the the beginning of the Great Awakening anytime you have a movement of God. If you could tell us something about what that means for our.

Our listeners who are unfamiliar with the revivals of history.

Great Awakening, of course in the work is always a work of large numbers You know mighty in a powerful way to revive a lot of people and bring them to faith in Christ many different Points where it's kind of like the one of those was an area where good Freeling house.

He's and Jonathan Edwards and he writes about and large numbers both young and old and then The tenant brother how they got over in each in the gospel. So they and then his student high water mark and it came about Primarily as the result of one particular By Gilbert tenant and it's called dangerous of an unconverted.

I don't know of any minister and suffered more any one sermon who write in the context. He probably said some things about some of the other ministers and put them in ways that he probably should not have but his doctrine Was nothing other than the doctrine in the Sermon on the Mount which everybody? sermon ever preached.

But in that Christ tenants missing are some of these who pretend to be ministers the gospel in there and you have to be aware.

Of them now, why is it that you have people in the 21st century still criticizing tenant for that? Are they saying that the men that the tenant was alluding to or innocent of these charges that Tenant was bringing upon them, of course anonymously.

Or what was the reason that they still what is the reason that some and I'm assuming you are speaking of? Men who would be biblically Orthodox who might be very close to the theological positions you and I hold to.

That are still holding grudges against tenant. What is the reason as one person summed it up people have done is.

Know what were what were the actual things that were going on amongst these clergymen. That were that was bothering or were bothering.

Samuel Davies, okay.

I'm sorry. Yeah.

Yeah, it was concerned because that was beyond his capacity involved in salvation either in total or in part. Wow. Yeah, were these professedly reformed men. Were these Presbyterians. Yes, they were doing this.

And and I've done in various letters, but an unconverted minister can. Makes no difference whether the ministers converted or not converted. And so tenant was standing up against and quite frankly he was right.

He was exactly. You know, and he was not the only one who did it. And what they felt that one sermon Was like the cafter that time they were reading this sermon and they decided wait a minute. We don't can go out there and hear these Revival preacher late awakening began to take.

Result of that is if you're going to a church They would say and your minister is not preaching if he's not preaching the gospel. Then you get up and you leave that church and you go find one that does have a motto in this country.

Don't think anything in America. Mm-hmm. Now before we go to the break if you could tell us you said that.

The first. Great Awakening is The second greatest revival in the history of Christianity. What would you say was the first or the greatest?

It's the Protestant Reformation, okay. With both the Reformation and a revival. John Calvin in preaching his sermons every week. Have those transcribed by someone in his congregate and many people and we have to go to our first break right now.

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Davies’s Ministry in Virginia, the Scottish Confession, and the Old School/New School Divide

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We were talking a bit about Gilbert Tenet and we were talking about the Great Awakening and I don't know if you wanted to back up. To include any other information about the journey of Samuel Davies. Prior to that that I may have interrupted but that's up to you.

Where there's not much information other than a few he came to faith He did not immediately knowledge of his sinful small child will never realize that he in fact in our denomination Davies persuasion that he truly want to do that.

During this time 18 ,000 Pete everybody in the air and everybody else was there and he was wanting to be a minister to God. And after Nottingham a fags manor, Pennsylvania. And it's about five or six miles from from the Maryland border there and Daniel Blair was starting an Academy that was that had been earlier that was called the log college By Gilbert Tenet a 20 by 20 log building that that that came up.

That college came up recently in another interview with someone and I can't remember Who that interview was connected with but I distinctly remember that the log call. Yeah.

Yeah, and in Pennsylvania supposedly on the main road the log college was seen by people who passed by that Riders to have come out of there. One of those was Samuel Blair who was The guy that really couple of years ago.

I went up there to see that location. There's a man who was level in that area. Now this location even today is so remote you would think. There wouldn't be 12 ,000 people who could be gathered up if you took two or three or four counties and put them together.

It's just farmland houses a few and far between. Came out. He was the lawns keep it. You know, he says I've been told that George Whitfield people one time. He saw me looking at their Samuel Blair. He made that.

He began to show me some of the areas that could have been natural. That was 20 or 30 miles by to be able to get there. And Davies in Delaware and his first teeth had gone down to Virginia and people down there now I told you earlier in Hanover farming area several of them Left their local rectors with one another but they just was not preaching sermon told them to do.

To leave if they're not getting the end. So interestingly enough.

Hmm.

The ministers because about anything and everything except in that instance the reading of the Virginia Gazette Without any minister being and one of them was a man named stand out any.

Thanks for that plug.

Yeah, you know writings of John Blake couldn't make it all the way in there. And there were so many numbers of them up in a different so this brick, Virginia at that time. You didn't leave cited by the Virginia government for what they were doing in and not attending at least once a month at the local church the local a and governing council.

It was while they were going there and so one of them farmhouse where he spent the night with the man and the guy had a Copy of the Scottish confession of faith and this. So well, that's exactly what we believe at the Morris reading room.

So the next day meet with the general council in the governor Virginia at the time was from Scotland what we call ourselves, but here it is. This is this book that we we believe these things and it says oh, well your Presbyterian.

Now, how would this Scottish confession have differed if at all with the Westminster Confession?

All more detailed theology, but then oh, yeah.

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