December 11, 2019 Show with Marcus A. McKnight III, Esq. on “Christmas from a Different Perspective: God’s Plan to Save Many”

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Iron radio. Wishing you all a happy Wednesday on this 11th day of December 2019. I'm thrilled to have a returning guest back in the program. Who is also a very dear friend of mine. One of the advantages of interviewing a very dear friend?

You can you can relax and not care so much about your professionalism or your lack thereof but I am always Thrilled to have Marcus a McKnight the third attorney at law on the program. He is also known as Mike McKnight and Mark McKnight.

He has more aliases than a fugitive fleeing justice. But He is the majority shareholder of the Carlisle, Pennsylvania law firm of Irwin and McKnight PC. He is recipient of an undergraduate degree in 1974 from Drew University in Madison, New Jersey.

Come laude with specialized honors in economics and a jurist doctor in 1977 from the University of Pittsburgh School of Law. He is a member of the Pennsylvania Bar Association and the Cumberland County Bar Association.

And an active member in the Carlisle Rotary Club. He's also the past president of both the Cumberland County Bar Association and the Carlisle Rotary Club. He is a member of the West Shore Evangelical Free Church in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania and function speaker for CBMC which stands for Christian businessmen's connection and today we are going to address The same theme that he will be speaking on at one of those Christian businessmen connection meetings this Friday Friday the 13th in Carlisle, Pennsylvania and that theme is Christmas from a different perspective.

God's plan to save many and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron trip and Zion radio Marcus McKnight. Yes, it is and this is the first time you're actually doing it by phone. We had some issues with some equipment in the studio here that has to be rectified.

So we have Marcus on the phone this time. We look forward to hopefully the next time you return to having you sitting right here in the studio again but if you could just briefly give a description of The law firm of Irwin and McKnight here in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

Where you serve as the majority shareholder? We have Amen. Well if anybody wants to investigate the law firm of Irwin and McKnight. Further you could go to their website Irwin McKnight calm and Irwin is spelt.

I are win MC K and I gh t calm Irwin McKnight calm and you can also call them at their their local Carlisle, Pennsylvania number and I have to. Because. Well, you prevented me from having to enlarge it because I'm going blind and my looking at the website on my computer screen I couldn't read it.

And I'm exaggerating folks about going blind. So please don't send in cards or anything like that. Well, uh, you first of all you actually amaze me and I'm not exaggerating because I don't know if I have ever met or known a Christian in any community.

That is doing more things in the community in the name of Christ. Every single week. First of all, how many Bible studies do you lead in? Cumberland County or in Carlisle?

Well, I'm not even leading an actual outreach. Usually the sermon. Great and you also.

Orchestrate every single year an Easter Sunrise service. Why don't you tell us about that? Oh, that is a special amen, and also the events that you speak at that are hosted by the Christian businessmen's connection.

Another thing you do in the community frequently. Why don't you tell our listeners about that organization?

They designed to preserve in the East and Turkey goes as far in in Cumberland County. We again small for speaking to we've seen marvelous things and so did I. I was sitting right across from you.

Yes, indeed and they are fine men indeed and always a pleasure to share a fellowship with them. And You got to get Tony to come to my pastors lunch in this January 9th. Dave Waterman has come. I think to nearly every single one of them If not everyone.

And we'd love to see Tony Beckett there as well.

And although yeah, well, I I include men and ministry leadership, yeah. So it's always a good time good speak. Oh, yeah, just to inform our listeners. I'll be repeating this later.

But every year twice a year I host the iron sharpens iron radio pastors luncheon, but we typically have Approximately a hundred people there all men and ministry leadership and we have a guest speaker this January 9th.

Thursday January 9th 11 a .m. To 2 p .m. We are blessed to have Justin Peters as our Keynote speaker. Justin Peters for those of our listeners who are unaware of him. He is a brother who having cerebral palsy has a certain higher level of sensitivity to the disabled community than other others might have and therefore one of the things he does is he.

In addition to the first and foremost thing that has top priority proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ. But second to that he seeks to expose These charlatans and frauds and heretics in the word of faith movement Who claim that if your faith is strong enough, you will certainly be healed of any physical ailment and that has caused quite horrific Situations in the lives of many people throughout the world some of them even including resulting in death because people don't seek medical assistance very often when they are declared to be healed of something but Justin Peters will be Speaking on the subject of protecting the sheep from wolves.

It's 11 a .m. To 2 p .m Thursday January 9th at the Carlisle fire and rescue banquet hall in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. And if you are a man in ministry leadership send me an email if you would like to attend it's free of charge.

Everything is free. And as Marcus McKnight just mentioned Christian book publishers nearly every major Christian book publisher in the United States and the United Kingdom donate to me a hundred copies each of A title I select from them so that every man in attendance can leave with a copy of that book.

So we have hundreds and hundreds of books that we give away for free. Everything is free. The meal is free hearing the speaker is free and this was the brainchild of my precious late wife Julie in the 1990s who said to me one day knowing of my Many friendships in the past or it since I have worked in Christian radio most of my adult life.

She said you have more Christian friends or you have more friends that are pastors than anybody. I know. Why don't we instead of exchanging Christmas gifts Every year, why don't we start treating your friends in the ministry to a pastor's luncheon?

I remember that very first one Occurred somewhere in the early 1990s at the Outback Steakhouse in Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York. We had About 30 men there and that has since grown to a approximately a hundred men every year.

I have continued this event and in the memory and In tribute to my precious late wife who is in eternal glory with Christ. And so this has been going on every year since the early 1990s and I'm looking forward to this January 9th here in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

I'm going to give our listeners our email address if you'd like to join us on the air with a question for Marcus McKnight our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com. C-h-r-i-s-a-r-n-z-e-n at gmail .com.

Please give us your first name at least your city and state and your country of residence if you live outside the USA. Only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter and again The theme today is Christmas from a different perspective.

God's plan to save many now. If you could if first of all explain the title Christmas from a different perspective.

Highlighting the word different it's Hallmark head with quiet the gospel of Luke and Matthew's perspective. He's thought deeply about especially the view that your average.

Person in Western in the Western world who is a professing Christian a nominal Christian Christian by name only but really doesn't understand the reason why God became incarnate and Was born of a virgin in a manger in Bethlehem.

They really don't understand That the way those who have been enlightened by the Holy Spirit through the study of the scriptures Understand this because it is a great act of humility that God underwent for the sake of his people and most people.

Just view this as a Some kind of an act of love of God that they don't really know what that meant. But and they also I think Unfortunately, and this is a tragedy people tend to gravitate toward enjoying the concept of a harmless God in the form of a infant a helpless fragile infant in a manger rather than a holy and righteous and wrathful God That will indeed punish.

People for their sins for eternity that have not been covered by the blood of the Son, but anyway, John Amen, go ahead talk about them. In John chapter. Were the only subject in the universe and he was there.

Enter the universe.

The Incarnation, the Virgin Birth, and John the Baptist in the Womb

Yes, one of the most amazing scenes in the Bible is when you have John the Baptist in the womb of his mother not yet born leaping for joy in.

The presence of his Savior who is in the womb of his own mother Mary. And that is and we do have a.

Listener question. This is an anonymous listener who asks. There has been some debate even amongst Evangelical Christians, although it is very rare among us in the 21st century whether or not to celebrate Christmas since it is not a Holiday or Holy Day that is mentioned in the scriptures.

I was wondering if you feel that it is our duty to in enforce a celebration of this day Upon those of our brethren that do not celebrate it for their own convictions.

Well, I find any day well, I would assume though the specific question that the listener had.

Was should we ever seek to Enforce, I think probably a more accurate word. There would be imposed Upon our brethren a brother or sister in Christ says to you. It is my personal conviction not to have Christmas trees or Christmas ornaments or celebrate Christmas as a unique day because the Bible does not command it.

Nor does it even mention it? I Assume that you would agree that we should not Force or impose it. I guess the only person who would be able to force would be a church leader or in a unusual sense if we were to become a theocracy here in America a political leader, but that's not likely to happen.

But you understand what I'm saying? Should we not? Allow our brethren with different convictions. Remain with those convictions without making them feel like they are sinning or something like that by ignoring this day and I understand that it is I think an ideal time of year because even the unbeliever very often is Singing songs of praise to Christ, even though this person doesn't believe that Christ is God or even existed.

But it is at least they have their minds in that direction and it is a valuable time of year to evangelize I believe but with the I think the specific question was imposing this upon others who don't believe it should be a.

Celebrated day in the church. I think that anyone can. Amen. And of course in Colossians chapter 2 verse 16 we read.

Something that I think Should be remembered by people on both sides of the question. Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon Or a Sabbath day.

I think that we are being instructed here by the Apostle Paul If you were you to use this reply this Verse to Christmas that those who do not feel that they are To to worship or should I say to celebrate this day?

We who celebrate it should not judge them and they at the same time should not be judging us.

Over our freedom and liberty to celebrate this day and Paul was speaking.

Yes, especially since what he is writing here is God breathed And inerrant, but we are going to our first break right now. If you have a question for Marcus McKnight, aka, Mike and Mark McKnight. Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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If you've just tuned us in our guest today is Marcus McKnight the third and we are discussing Christmas from a different perspective. God's plan to save many and by the way for any of you Post-millennialists or theonomists who are upset with me for saying that a theocracy is not likely to happen in this country.

A Christian theocracy that is well, let me just add to that in our lifetime. It's not likely. But anyway Marcus if you could unless you have a different point where you want to pick up if you could Explain something that may seem insignificant on the surface.

But I think I as a reformed Christian I think it has great biblical weight to it the simple word many in God's plan to save many. The majority of evangelicals today and the majority of professing Christians today.

Believe it was and is God's plan to save every single human being. But as most Christians would admit other than full-blown universalists who believe everyone including the devil will be in heaven. The the plan of God if that was The fact that it was intended for every single person.

It would have been and and will be an enormous failure on the part of God if that's his plan, but we believe that he came as a Ransom Jesus Christ came as a ransom for many but if you want to pick up on that.

Well, I wanted to say time he was born the incredible thing is That's right. What's the alternative. Before the birth of who you love that do not let you were being raised from the dead.

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The Meaning of “Many” in Christ’s Saving Work

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