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December 6, 2019
WILLIAM SASSER, Pastor at Grace Church at Franklin, TN, who will all address: “The HOLY BIBLE: ‘HIM’ BOOK For The CHURCH”
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Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Lake City, Florida. And the rest of humanity living on the planet Earth who are listening via live streaming at iron sharpens iron radio .com. This is Chris Arnzen your host of iron sharpens iron radio wishing you all a happy Friday on this sixth day of December 2019 and I'm thrilled to have back on the program an old friend and a new sponsor of iron sharpens iron radio Pastor William Sasser of Grace Church at Franklin, Tennessee.
And today we are going to be addressing the Holy Bible hymn book for the church and I know that a lot of people when they saw the promotion of this interview. They probably were thinking to themselves that Chris Arnzen is so stupid.
He doesn't even know how to spell hymn book. He spelled it H I am instead of H a Y M N. No, I spelt it the way it was supposed to be spelt because we are not talking about the hymn book for the church.
Some might even think that the Holy Bible hymn book for the church is a discussion on exclusive psalmity. And it's not that either we're talking about the hymn book meaning God being him. And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to honor trip inside radio pastor William Sasser.
Before we go into Your personal testimony of salvation. Which is something that we typically do for first-time guests on iron sharpens iron radio. But since the last time you were on there were multiple guests and if we had everybody give their testimony.
We would never have time to pay tribute to John Riesinger, which was the subject that we had that day. So I would like you to take this opportunity today. Being the second time that you're on the program.
To give a a little bit of your salvation testimony. But before that, why don't you tell our listeners about Grace Church at Franklin, Tennessee?
Which happens to be a new sponsor of iron sharpens iron radio people out there bringing brothers?
Sure, and I Assume that the last one you had was done in honor of John Riesinger since he had recently gone home to glory for eternity. Where you called it to the the John Bunyan conference? I don't know him personally, but I have heard of him.
Yes, I did. I met you and your lovely wife at one of the Bunyan conferences. I started to attend those conferences in The late 1980s and went for a number of years after that. My beloved late wife Before we were married was a member of First Baptist Church in Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York and the pastor there was the late Don blend who became a very close friend of mine who he is also now in eternal glory with.
My late wife and Don blend started taking me to the Bunyan conference for a number of years in a row and I Fell in love with the fellowship there. I have always been a member of a Confessional Covenantal Reform Baptist Church, but I've always had very close friendships and relationships with New Covenant theology Baptists my nearly my entire Christian life since.
It wasn't that long after I was saved that I married my wife and her coming from a New Covenant Church I just naturally developed many New Covenant friends and I've always maintained those friendships and to be perfectly honest I think that many on both sides.
Exaggerate the severity of those differences to the point of not fellowshipping with one another which I think is a tragedy.
Amen.
And still have maintained close friendships with pastor Gary George of Sovereign Grace Chapel in Massachusetts and Also, Fred zaspal who is a brilliant author and scholar and pastor at the Reformed Baptist Church of Franconia, Pennsylvania and a number of other folks.
Really am enjoying starting to get to know both Stephen and Kirk Wellum who I hope to have back on the program who are speakers at the last John Bunyan conference at your congregation at your church. I should say Grace Church of Franklin.
Well, that's Amen.
One shining light one shining light that I know personally who I've grown to Deeply love as a brother and friend Dr. Tony Costa who is a shining light in your in your neck of the woods there of theology that is the New Covenant theology and I am.
I have had a number of speaking engagements that I've orchestrated personally featuring dr Costa as well as a couple of debates and I'm looking forward to doing that for many years to come in the future.
My friend dr. James R. White of Alpha Omega Ministries is one of the most Gifted. I think he's the most gifted debater on the planet Earth coming from a theologically reformed perspective and When I heard dr. James White Say that due to illness a number of years ago He might have to back out of a debate with a Roman Catholic and he had dr Tony Costa waiting in the wings to fill in if necessary.
I knew that dr. Tony Costa must be Magnificent because dr. James White doesn't take that kind of thing lightly. Yes, he is the professor of apologetics and Islam at Toronto Baptist Seminary in Toronto, Canada.
For those of you who want to look up his information that website is TBS Edu TBS for Toronto Baptist Seminary edu. I also know that your church Grace Church at Franklin is an independent and Autonomous church if you want to mention a couple of things about why that is important.
Amen, and of course as we've already.
Mentioned you are a sovereign grace-believing Church and I'm assuming down south that would be a minority among Baptists and other Bible-believing churches.
Well, I want to make sure I will if I remember to and I hope I remember to repeat this later on in the show.
But the website for Grace Church at Franklin in Franklin, Tennessee is Grace Church at Franklin org Grace Church Franklin org and the act by the way is spelt out a T. It's not the symbol at its Grace Church a T Franklin org and Franklin is fr a n k l I n so we hope that if you are Living in that area or if you're visiting that area or if you have friends family and loved ones in that area that you will either attend worship worship services there and Perhaps even join if you do not have a biblically based church that you are a member of right now.
Or that you recommend that church to others who do live near that area. That's Grace Church a T Franklin org and now as I was saying earlier, let's have a summary of your own salvation testimony. What kind of a religious atmosphere you were raised in if any and the providential?
Circumstances that the Lord raised up in your life that drew you to himself and saved you. By the way, let's pick up right where you left off because we have to go to our first break.
All right.
So we'll pick up at your baptism if anybody would like to join us on the air. The question for Bill Sasser. Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. CH RIS Arnzen at gmail .com.
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This is Pastor Bill Sasser Grace Church at Franklin here in the beautiful state of Tennessee. Our congregation is one of a growing number of churches who love and support Iron sharpens iron radio. Financially.
Grace Church at Franklin is an independent autonomous body of believers. It strives to clearly declare the whole counsel of God as revealed in Scripture Through the person and work of our Lord Jesus Christ.
And of course the end of which we strive is the glory of God. If you live near Franklin, Tennessee and Franklin is just south of Nashville, maybe 10 minutes. Are you are visiting this area or you have friends and loved ones nearby?
We hope you will join us some Lord's Day in worshiping our God and Savior. Please feel free to contact me if you have more questions about Grace Church. Our website is grace church at Franklin org. That's grace church at Franklin.
Dot o-r-g. This is Pastor Bill Sasser wishing you all the richest blessings of our Sovereign Lord God Savior and King Jesus Christ today and always.
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That's H I am for the church. If you'd like to join us on the air, our email address is Chris Arndt at gmail .com. Chris Arndt in that gmail .com before we go to any listener questions. Bill. You were leaving off before our break with the Point in time in your salvation testimony where you were baptized.
Yes, amen and I would tell us a little bit about that.
Group that would now be categorized as a golden holy group. But of course, it wasn't back then in the 50s or 60s that singing group that you were part of.
Well, you made it the music business. Yes. But and you had a duet called will and bill or bill and will or something like that. Yes I thought that was my but amen and folks you could even hear.
A couple of the bill and will songs that are still on YouTube or somebody had.
Posted a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, and.
Well.
Now it's time to at least start the Subject at hand and we're going to be continuing it in its majority After the midway break because we only have a few minutes to start off the topic before our midway break.
But the Holy Bible hymn book for the church and as I was saying before that's a play in words That you chose. People on the radio can't tell that unless I spell it out. But it's H I am a book not H Y M and book.
Now tell us what you mean by that.
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Pastor Bill Sasser. We are now back with our discussion and we have a listener Harrison and Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania who has a question for you. He asks in the 21st century and perhaps even beginning in last century.
There has been a huge problem amongst evangelicals where theology and doctrine does not matter at all they will say things like let's just lift up the name of Jesus and love one another as brothers in Christ and They are either consciously or unconsciously linking arms with heretics and apostates and those who deny the very gospel itself and sometimes even with those that don't even profess to be Christians at all and On the other end of the extreme we have people who are so intensely Concentrated on the finer things of theology that they are disfellowshipping and barring barring fellowship from People who are truly our brothers in Christ who may disagree with us on things that are truly important.
But at the same time they are not worthy of.
Separating us in fellowship. How do we maintain a balance when those two things exist? Oh, yeah.
Yes, I was there when Dr. S Lewis Johnson preached at the Bunyan conference and actually had the privilege of having lunch with him there before he went home to be with the Lord.
What a sweet man and what a scholar he was. Oh, yeah, right. You're talking about. Well, you just.
Briefly mentioned it Exposition or expository preaching where you will take entire books of the scripture and Go chapter by chapter each Lord's Day to exegete Whatever passage you happen to be arriving at on that day.
And it prevents you unless you are involved in Isagesis where you want to insert your favorite topics into into every chapter and passage of the Bible. If you're not doing that you're going to be at least being a further prevention from hobby horsing and from.
Perhaps just constantly repeating and regurgitating your favorite topic now knowing how.
Wise and how biblically literate and how. Dare I say brilliant you are brother. I know that you're not talking about dumbing down the Bible. Acting as if every Sunday you have nothing but a congregation filled with either lost people or or new Christians.
I'm assuming you believe that we are not to dumb down the Bible and we are to have our Hearers digging deeper and deeper into the unsearchable riches of scripture to learn more and not only to be fed milk But the meat of the word as well.
Yeah, in fact there are churches.
Today and I'm this is nothing really very new but it's just more I think dominant in Christendom today that stick with the bare minimum of Christianity and what happens is you have people even like Mormons like Glenn Beck When they hear constantly regurgitated over and over and over and over again nothing more than God loves you Jesus died for you Accept Christ and And live forever.
If that's all that you're being told the Mormons can say well I basically believe that. Of course they have a different dictionary. They redefine who God is himself. They believe that they can become gods if they're faithful Mormons and all kinds of heretical and blasphemous things.
But if you understand what I'm saying when people just stick with the basics and Never move on from there into the meat of the word You're going to have people thinking that they are right with God because they think they think they agree with you.
It sounds to me like you are.
Referring to 1st Corinthians chapter 3 verse 7. So then neither he who plants is anything nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.
Well, I didn't think amen me. I just go over quickly a couple of things you said so.
To clarify them to make sure that nobody misunderstands you. As far as finding Christ in every passage of Scripture at the same time I'm sure you would agree that people have to be careful not to be practicing Isis when they're when they're importing things into the text that aren't there.
Harold camping Found Christ in every text at least he thought he did but he was clearly involved many times in Isis. Where he was inventing? What's the the passages were meaning to say and becoming very cryptic and Having codes and mystery ways of finding out what the text meant because Christ was really in that text.
Even if it wasn't readily evident, so you're not talking about that kind of thing.
No, and I forgot the other thing I was gonna bring up, but if it's if it's important enough God will recall it to my memory.
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We do have Susan Margaret in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania who says I assume that something under the heading of The Bible being a hymn book H. I am. For the church is that we are not to approach The Bible like Joel Osteen was merely looking for how we may benefit from the teachings of the Bible whether we are repentant.
Blood-bought regenerate Christians or not. Yeah watch her and the way we approach. Yes.
I think it does and of course when you said John Osteen Joel Osteen's father was More sound than him you set the bar very low because He might have been the sounder than his son, but he was certainly a heretic and hated the right.
Yeah, it's kind of comical when you think about how opposite in manner John Osteen was because he was a grunchy Should I say grumpy? Almost Scrooge like character behind the pulpit whereas his son is always beaming with a smile.
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