F4F | Zach Drew and the Drug Induced Demonic Trip to Outer Space

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Now if you've ever been told that your Christian testimony is so vital and the devil hates it. Especially if your testimony involves going to outer space during a bad drug trip. Where you were deceived by demons?

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If this is what you think is the importance of a Christian testimony and that somehow the devil is trying to knock these things down. Yeah, you haven't been taught the truth and you've been taught something out of context case in point.

We're gonna be heading over to the YouTube channel of Zach drew now many of the YouTube audience. You probably are not familiar with this fellow, but Zach drew is somebody that we've covered on my podcast extensively.

He used to work for the Jim Baker show and He considers himself a former co-host of the Jim Baker show and he's the guy who put together the YouTube program called Revelation in the news and Zach drew likes to think of himself as an end times expert and He is not an expert in anything that relates to sound biblical exegesis at all well as it turns out that Jim Baker sent him on his way and Replaced him with family members.

Yeah a little nepotism never hurt nobody in a TV show and Zach drew has reemerged as as a YouTube personality kind of keeping things going on that front and The best way I can describe him is that he is horribly terribly Deceived and does not understand what scripture is about at all.

And so we're heading over to his YouTube channel as he's going to bear his soul. Regarding his drug use when he was a teenager and a bad trip that he had and he thinks that this is a vital part of Something that the devil is trying to keep the world from hearing when in reality he is misunderstood Revelation 1211 will explain that along the way.

So let me whirl this up and Heading over to YouTube. Here is the intro to this program by Zach true. My untold journey to the demonic realm and it ought to you know continue in outer space. Yeah, I wish I was making that up.

Here's Zach drew.

The Demonic Realm and the Misuse of Revelation 12:11

Over life. It is time. I share the untold side of my testimony Where I left reality and spoke to a demonic entity and What I perceived at the time I was 17. To be outer space, you know. With an intro like that I.

Would like to reach out to Zach Drew's friends. You need to get Zach drew some mental health Treatment. This doesn't sound at all sane. What he's saying and.

This demonic entity was deceiving me about eternity Heaven and the true things of God and my story isn't as rare as many would think. Notice the self-importance here. Millions in America have had experiences like this and they're still sitting completely deceived with what they were shown because of gateway drugs.

It will ultimately give you a glimpse on Really the core of me.

I really don't need to know the core of you. The core of you is pretty much the same as the core of me born dead and trespasses and sins and having a Horrible, no good dead. You know sinful nature that doesn't desire to do the things of God doesn't love God yet.

We we all have that down Inside of us and as Christians we are also Regenerated by the Holy Spirit through the word of Christ and we have a new man within us and the old man and the new man kind of war with each other.

This is normal for Christians, but When it comes to the things of Christ I really don't need to know much more beyond what I just said which can be shown from Scripture Regarding the core of you each and every one of us.

We're the problem not the solution. Yeah, we're the problem that Jesus is death on the cross.

Solves if you would. I think on this story almost on a weekly basis. Why? Where the Lord has brought me from. It's gonna it's gonna. Show you a different side of me.

And I don't need to see any other sides of you.

Probably explain why I talk about the things that I talk about on this show and why I feel the Lord has called me to certain areas of ministry.

Yeah, this guy is.

Like I said, he's deceived.

Here we go.

All right.

Now I'm gonna fast forward because the intro to his program now follows and we'll jump ahead to where he decides to actually engage in some teaching and lay the foundation for his testimony.

Listen Revelation 12 11. Hi, I'm nervous about Andrews over here by the side of the camera. I'm nervous about this show and I don't explain to you why I'm nervous as we go on. But Revelation 12 11 says this.

They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb that him is talking about. The Antichrist each now.

We're gonna notice something here. Okay, three rules for sound biblical exegesis. They are Context context and context and so here Zach drew is parachuting in to Revelation which is not an easy book to understand.

It is filled with word-picture symbols that need to be defined and explained and understood and Revelation 12 there's a lot going on in Revelation chapter 12 so he just jumps to Revelation 12 11 and the reason he's doing that is Because he's looking for the word Testimony, and he has a false understanding of what's going on in Revelation 12 11.

We'll clean this up in a minute, but let's let him spin this out.

Triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb That's Jesus and by the word of their testimony your testimony my testimony. They did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. It gave them boldness.

All right, let's.

Look at Revelation chapter 12. All right. We'll start in verse 7 because this is where the next word picture, you know kind of graphic frightening picture picks up in the book of Revelation in the flow of how it reads and If you want to get more of the context you can back up into verse 1 but for our sake today We'll focus here starting at verse 7.

Now war arose in heaven. Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. The dragons gonna be the devil and the dragon and his angels they fought back but he was defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven and The great dragon was thrown down that ancient serpent who is called the devil and Satan the deceiver of the whole world.

He was thrown down to the earth and his angels were thrown down with him. And I heard a loud voice in heaven saying now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ his Anointed one here Christos in this in this context have come for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down.

Who accuses them day and night before our God and so you'll note that this is a picture of victory. It is a it is a word picture depicting defeat of the devil the accuser of the Saints and You got it.

You got a note here that the reason why the devil is able to accuse Saints is because Saints have for real Committed for real sins and there is guilt and shame associated with that and the devil is all about the accusation.

But what is it that overcomes the accusatory work of the devil who Rightly points out those Saints of yours Jesus they are sinners they have committed great and egregious sins against you and so here's what it says in verse 11 and They have conquered him.

They have conquered the dragon by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony. For they love not their lives even unto death. Now I'm going to show you something here in the Greek and I have to actually make this a little bit bigger.

So they have conquered by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their and here's the Greek word Martyr Eos, uh-huh now Marta Ria. Sounds a lot like that word, you know martyr. That's where we get the word martyr from somebody who gives the ultimate witness is a martyr.

So they have conquered him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their Martyr Eos. Their testimony their witness for they love not their lives even unto death. So you'll note then that this testimony that is being referred to you can make a very Very compelling case from the Greek in the context here that this is talking about that the fact that they conquered by the blood of the Lamb, which by the way silences the accusations of the dragon because it is the blood of Christ which was shed for us which gives us pardon and grace and the forgiveness of our sins and The word of their testimony the word of their martyr Ria.

So they give a witness to Christ and his forgiving saving work Even unto death that's the point of it now. I don't normally on these segments pull out a commentary, but here's a commentary the the the book of Revelation commentary published by Concordia Publishing House and Was written by Louis Brighton and here's his commentary on this section of the book of Revelation and here's what it says the Saints of God the followers of Christ were not destroyed or Condemned by God based upon the accusations of the devil.

Though tormented by his accusations because of their guilt over their sins they indeed committed. They never gave in to despair for their faith was that their sins were washed away In the blood of the Lamb now It becomes evident for all to see that the guilt of sin no longer clings to believers in Christ and God's people had Trusted that they were innocent despite the accusations of the old evil foe.

They knew that truth because of the word of promise to them the blood of the Lamb Was the actual cause of their acquittal and the word of their witness was the result that? Testified to their victory in Christ they gave Witness to the truth of God's forgiveness because of the blood of the Lamb they held to that witness even in the face of threats Suffering and death death their faith was their victory because they held firmly to the victorious Christ and For that victory in faith.

They were not afraid to die. Thus they were a living demonstration of Jesus's words the one who loves his life Who loves his life loses it, but the one who hates it his life in this world will keep it for eternal Life so you get the idea.

That's what's going on in this passage. Let me kind of stack this properly now and Zach drew here thinks that Revelation 12 11 is telling us how powerful the Experience of his telling his testimony even this really weird drug-induced outer space experience is supposed to have and as far as forwarding the kingdom and that's Not what's going on in Revelation 12 11 but let's keep going here.

Your testimony is so powerful what the Lord has saved you from.

Never forget it. What the Lord how you came to know the that's not what's being referred to Here in Revelation 12 11. Lord is so powerful. Never leave that.

That is your testimony and I've never shared a certain part of mine like I am today on TV.

You're not on TV or on YouTube. There is a difference.

Simply because it I thought it was too radical. It was so radical. It is so radical.

So.

Demonic so So deceiving. I mean I felt like I was swimming with evil in these moments and you probably were So such an out-of-this-world experience. I was always too scared to talk about it. Because I thought people would judge me too harshly.

You see whenever I was very first saved I actually told this story to several people around me. But there came a point in my life where I felt I had to. Prestigious. Yeah, it's probably not. That's not the right word.

More of a I would say recognized.

Position later. Yeah, the Jim Baker show. Yeah, you were complicit in moving thousands and thousands and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of awful tasting food buckets drawn.

I mean I was the co-host of an internationally syndicated program that was seen by hundreds of thousands of people probably millions of people and and it was a place where every single word was. Was judged and scrutinized by so many people.

I mean and that's not talking about this particular ministry. That's anybody who's ever on TV. Whoever even has a large YouTube following. There's always trolls.

Yeah, so when somebody offers a biblical correction to your false teaching and the false teaching of Jim Baker. Yeah, they they are immediately demoted to internet trolldom. Yeah, isn't it funny how that works?

There's always trolls and I've literally just had to come to places my mind says Zach you're always gonna have trolls. You need to share it. You need to share it. You see I didn't want to say anything so radical then.

Because I thought that it would discredit my own credibility or the credibility.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure being the co-host of the Jim Baker show. At least that's what you think you were. That would discredit your ministry pretty much with anybody who knows their Bible really of even those around me.

You see who you saw on the Jim Baker show or true news. That who you saw Zach drew that is me.

That's totally me. Yeah, I I believe it. Yeah, we're hearing a lot about You we're hearing nothing about Jesus.

That is me on camera and that is me off camera. Truly, I mean my peers are like man Zach you take these crazy animated stories. You're not on TV. I'm like, bro I've been this how I tell stories my whole life.

Like this is just me like this is. I love research. I love I love find out how things work how they operate and and and telling telling people. But there's so much I mean that that people don't know and why do we need to know.

And I? Was always scared to tell this part of my testimony, but now I believe that that was all a lie. There's only one person that didn't want me telling this side of my testimony and it is the adversary of our souls.

It is the enemy. It is Satan that I'm.

100 convinced that the devil is. Very happy that you're telling this testimony. Because you're not pointing anybody to Jesus you're appointing everybody to you.

That is who does not want to you to tell people their full testimony. Who cares if you look weird. I've given that's the birds. I am serving the Lord. I believe this test.

How are you serving the Lord Jesus said to make disciples of all nations? Baptizing them in the name of the Father Son and the Holy Spirit and teaching all that he is commanded. This is nowhere commanded as far as Christian doctrine or teaching and.

This is off into just some weird abyss of narcissistic.

Bizarreness.

Testimony will leave many people that are deceived to Jesus that have had similar experiences to mine that have been that have been Totally lied to in these crazy other dimensions these other realms. And it and they can't pull themselves out of it.

But you see here's the thing people have these experiences and they deem that as truth because it's literally the most real thing They've ever experienced but yet it's all a deception because there's only one truth and that is Jesus.

That is Jesus. It's Jesus. It's Jesus.

Yeah, and what did Jesus do for us again. Because when I read the text in Revelation It talked a lot about how the blood of the Lamb You know forgives silences the accuser, you know stuff like that. I.

Believe it was the enemy feeding me those lies. He knew by me telling the whole thing that it would ultimately expose him. This experience was so.

Very real.

Yet it was so deceiving. It was all lies.

I.

Think by me sharing this story will also explain to many people once again Why I talk about things like DMT and the trips that literally millions of people are experiencing every year in America alone.

I mean we quoted a manager and I quoted a study a couple weeks ago that literally millions of Millennials are taking DMT every year in America alone and they're having similar experiences to the one that I'm about to share.

These experiences are completely changing the world view that there is many things that you could call it. But this new world view it after these experiences that they have is incredibly new age. It's very You know Eastern religion.

It's about love. It's about energy. It's about reincarnation. Astrology it's about.

Vibrations in yourself. Fight right. And if you know your Bible then you know full well that witchcraft and The concept of drug abuse kind of go hand-in-hand. Yeah, just it's part of just a basic understanding of the biblical Greek text.

Vibrations in the things around you the Christ consciousness. We can all be right and have our own truths. We all have. All we really have is our experiences. So your truth doesn't actually have to be my truth.

My truth is my experiences.

Yeah, that's called moral relativism and Christian apologists have been addressing moral relativism for.

Millennia.

And it's all lie. I agree. It's all lie.

From Satan the one who wants to take your soul take your spirit to hell forever And all of eternity and I'm here to expose that I'm.

All right, well get on with it then start exposing. Would you pray. In my testimony today will lead many to Jesus. That's only gonna happen if you preach Christ in him crucified for their sins, which would require you to also You know preach God's law which shows them their sinfulness and their need for a Savior.

I Get the feeling we're gonna basically hear outer space stories not repentance and the forgiveness of sins.

Here it goes, all right my trip to the demonic and how it led me to the Lord. So I had just turned 17. I Was raised in a Christian home. I really didn't have a relationship with the Lord. I was smoking a lot of weed and You know whenever I could I would pop pills whenever I would be able to find them.

It was a week after my birthday. And I just turned 17 years old and I had always had money growing up. Like me personally, I was always a wheeler-and-dealer. I was always whether mowing lawns or I would actually even like knock on people's doors.

And and the reason why we're hearing all of this is because he does not understand Revelation 12 11. And he thinks that the word testimony their Martyria has something to do with him now sharing This experience from when he was 17.

I had I had an idea of what old Electronics were worth and and I would just knock on people's doors and just say hey. Do you have any old electronics you'd like to sell me? I'd buy old electronics in bulk and I'd go and sell it on eBay.

You know, I would just I would do random things to go to garage sales and and buy things then sell them on eBay. You know, this was in the dot-com everything I mean. I'm probably 10 11 12 years old and and you know I was able to buy a $1 ,000 fish and curry when I'm like 11 and you know a gas-powered scooter and all my buddies are on bicycles because I was a Little wheeler-and-dealer and so I always had money.

I always.

Zack do you have anything significant to say about Jesus? From a biblical text, you know. From the eyewitnesses. Who you know. Heard him preach and teach and perform miracles. Be crucified. Rise again from the grave.

Do you have anything that you can share with us from there?

You know, I was able to buy my first car whenever I was 16 and so. Even birthday birthday money. It's like it's like, you know, I would save it for what I wanted. I might not have a lot of things but the things I have are really nice and that's how I've kind of always been and.

So it was one week after my 17th birthday and I had money to do, you know do whatever I basically wanted and you know, that's relative but I told my Cousin my cousin was with me. There was two people with me that night.

I told my cousin.

By the way, just rule of thumb brevity is the soul of wit.

Keep that in mind. I said basically I said just go out and get the best thing you can find. The best weed you can possibly get so. That that's why I had made myself a little reverse gravity bong to get myself super high, right?

And so it would have been a Saturday or a Friday night or a Saturday and I'm smoking lots of weed and I'm smoking. I'm smoking. I'm smoking. I you know, it was almost kind of a game. It was being silly about how much I was smoking it and still to this day I do not know and I'm just kind of like a disclaimer.

I don't know how I left reality because I had smoke.

You have no clue how you left reality there. I'm gonna go with the weed. Had something maybe just you know, just a smidge to do with it. How is this helping bring people to repentant faith in Christ for the forgiveness of their sins?

We'd several other times. But I do know just from my studies that people don't know this is that weed is actually it's a psychoactive drug.

It is in the psychedelic family and well, there's the answer to your dilemma. Then you just answered your own question. I'm sure how I left reality.

That would be the way and smoked in mass quantities. You actually can't have some psychedelic Experiences. Now to the level of psychedelic experience. I had that night. I don't know I still don't know if it was laced with something it very well could have been laced with something like DMT.

But I do know that the other person with me was also hallucinating.

So anyway, there's clue number two that the weed may have had something to do with it. So it's nighttime.

I'm down, you know in my backyard. There's that there was a big pond and I'm filling up the reverse gravity bomb with a bunch of water. I'm lighting the weed and I'm just getting absolutely blazed up my goal that night.

There's a 17 year old kid just turned 17 16 the week before was to get higher than I've ever had been in my entire life. I've always been more of an extremist I'm I'm trying to not just get high not just get a buzz but get absolutely blazed that night and blazed I became and So it was all fun and games.

It was awesome. You know, we're laughing and having a good time be like that. That's what's deception is. It's you know, it reels you in because it initially sin is fun, but sin ultimately leads to death.

And so I'm that's correct number even after I'm smoking weed I'm just completely blazed out of my mind and I'm walking back up the hill from the pond. We lived at a walk a house with a walkout basement and there was you know upon at the very at the base of everything and me and my cousin and these two people were walking up with me and one individual literally started to Become incredibly fearful and we're trying to figure out what in the world is going on.

Me and my cousin make my cousin Michael and we he had Envisioned himself that he was actually trapped in. Like a cage there was a fence around him. Hey, you know me and Mikey so he became a mime.

But rather than it being glass it was an invisible cage. So rather than going Like this he went.

Like that, right.

My cousin we're laughing. We thought it was funny, but that he's freaking out and so we you know in our own imagination. We open up the gate for him and he comes out and he's okay. He's you know, and we're like, okay, like what's going on?

All we did was smoke weed, but things are starting to get trippy. So we go inside and And I sit down on a recliner. We're all in the basement and we're all on the you know, the couches and everything.

And it's it's it's a tremendous a time. It's very it was very. It's very funny. It was fun. Like I was having a good time at this at this moment and Something happened to me and I realized I don't know what's going on because this isn't a normal experience, but I started to hallucinate cartoon penguins.

Dancing and I'm laughing hysterically, you know, I'm like wheezing.

So you hallucinated dancing cartoon penguins. Yeah, I'm feeling closer to Jesus already and I'm like, I'm having you know.

It was a very funny the very funny thing and I'm telling you know, my friends. Oh my gosh. There's penguins dancing, you know in front of me like oh my gosh, it was hilarious. And then it's like everything just radically started to change.

Okay, here comes the darkness now.

And it became Very dark and it was like within like just a matter of minutes. My two friends that were with me there that night. They had basically just passed out. I mean, they're just literally within a matter of a few minutes.

They're they're asleep and they are completely asleep and All of a sudden this is whenever it starts to get really dark. And there's certain things I still can. I was talking to Andrew yesterday about this story.

There's certain things I still Can't quite make sense of.

Yeah, like I'm having a hard time making sense of why you think that this is somehow going to advance the kingdom of Christ and That the devil is trying to keep you from telling this story.

One of those things being the very next thing that happened. I started hearing this voice and This voice simply said Your word for heaven is Yarden and Heaven isn't real. I'm like what all of a sudden it's like unlock something within me.

You know, I'm not I don't have Jesus living. I mean like this is this is this is BC. This is before Christ in Zach and It was so trippy because he said my your word for heaven is Yarden and it was very very terrifying.

Was Zul there in the key master. Because in my mind it was like he went. It went to a place.

Where I had forgotten as a little itty-bitty guy. You know, I don't really know. Maybe three four years old. I knew about heaven. And for some weird random reason the word that was associated with heaven in my mind as a little infant was yarded.

I don't know. I can't I don't know why I'm kids are funny. We're funny when we're kids.

As a my little word for heaven was a Yarden, okay, so your drug trip Pharmakeia Has put you in touch with the demonic which is exactly to be expected. Which is one of the reasons why scripture forbids these things these hallucinogenic mind altering drugs.

Puts you into an ecstatic state that makes you pretty much super deeper susceptible to the demonic. That's what's happening here.

And.

So he said your word for heaven was Yarden and it literally was and then he said this and Yarden isn't real heaven isn't real and. It was so terrifying because that was the way this thing solidified his credibility with me because he Told me something that only I would know.

No one else demons can do that. You know never knew.

Why this. This whole Yarden thing. Okay. No, I just want to give a brief timeout. A couple of years ago I looked up this and I don't know if it means anything at all. I don't have any idea then. Why are you sharing this?

I.

Talk Hebrew, we're gonna speak Hebrew. That was I really. I think that I do believe that. Yeah, I mean maybe never eat.

Yeah, okay, you know this conjecture. Or how old will we be? Will we be 33 years old because that was the age that Jesus Died for us on the cross. I don't know. We will have glorified bodies and we very well could be speaking Hebrew.

And he wrote say they stood to Marsha who?

I'm 17 years old. I don't know anything about Hebrew Greek. I don't know anything about really the Bible at all. Yarden is a Hebrew word. It's not in any other. It's not any other language. And I just think I don't I can't I don't know what it means.

Maybe you can tell me what it means.

I don't know if it's a Hebrew word. Look it up. Why don't you tell us?

No, but Yarden is a Hebrew word and it's the Yarden River. Yarden is the word in Hebrew for the Jordan River the Yarden and I don't know what that means how that correlates because they had to cross over the Jordan River to the promised land the promised land.

Today is Jesus. Maybe it's heaven. You know, the it was also known as the you know, the promise at a time the Garden of God or Heaven, I don't know. But I think that there's something there that maybe even our infant stages of mind before we can even talk and communicate.

Maybe we are more connected to Jesus than we know before that. Maybe that a.

Total utter speculation based upon this drug-induced encounter with a demonic. What does this have to do with biblical Christianity of accountability, I don't know. There's a lot of different theories with that.

But all I know is that my word for heaven. Whenever I was literally basically an infant or not quite a little or never.

Just for giggles Jordan, let's see if we can look this up.

Okay. Yarden. For it's you know, just a simple word. It can mean the Jordan River. It is also the Hebrew word for descend. It can be a descender. Just thought we'd look that up just since he's talking nonsense.

We continue was yarn, which is a Hebrew.

Word. So it terrified me though because he He told me something that only I would know yeah, he says it's not real. And that everything that you know about heaven and these and these what you think about the God and Jesus it's it's not real.

But what was so real in that moment you need to understand was this experience. It was more real at that moment than anything. I had ever experienced in my entire life and I became absolutely Terrified in that moment.

Sheer terror.

You're in the presence of a demon. You should be. So much so that I went and I.

Went over to my other friend and. Everything. Okay, Andrew we just had to stop recording. Major technical difficulties. I'm going to continue now, but I just want to say that this world is so much more spiritual than we understand.

That it really is a fight for our souls. It is the fight between good and evil that's taking place around us at all times. And I'm telling you right now that the enemy has no power. He has no can and I don't need your.

Drug-induced experience with the demonic. During your rebel years as a 17 year old, you know smoking weed and intentionally trying to get blazed. In order to tell me that the devil is real and that he's been defeated scripture already tells me this.

Now I let him spin this out for a long time but the reality of the situation is is that a lot of people think that somehow Whether or not you have a great testimony a harrowing testimony like this supposed testimony is it's vital.

It's it's a vital part of witnessing and things like that. No, actually, it's not. It really isn't. You see faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of Christ. Which is the gospel of Jesus Christ the good news that Christ has bled and died for our sins.

And it's stories like this which end up causing Christians who basically do not have a Story even remotely approaching this they were pretty much garden variety nerds or something like that and somebody preached the gospel to them.

And and all of a sudden God the Holy Spirit gives them faith in Jesus Christ and up to that point the worst thing that they had ever done was steal a number two pencil from their Sister when they were in third grade and they think I don't have a good testimony, you know, you don't need a good Testimony the testimony that we're supposed to proclaim is Christ.

The one who bled and died for our sins who rose from the grave victorious on the third day and the eyewitnesses bear witness to that fact and we are to call people to repent of their sins to be forgiven by the shed blood of Christ and to bear fruit in keeping with repentance.