Ezekiel Part 28
Sunday school from March 24th, 2024
Transcript
We are gonna pray and then we're gonna get into our study.
Let's pray Lord Jesus as we open up your word.
We ask your Holy Spirit to help us to rightly understand what is revealed there so that we may properly believe Confess and do all
according to your Holy Word.
We ask in Jesus name.
Amen.
All right, Ezekiel chapter 20.
I'm gonna put the nose to the grindstone here.
I'm gonna back up into the context just a little bit here so that we can remember.
It's been a while since we've actually like read a section out and.
So.
God is speaking judgment against Israel.
And so if you remember at the beginning portion of chapter 20 it's it's
titled the continuing Israel's continuing rebellion and.
And it says on the seventh year in the fifth month on the tenth day of the month Certain of the elders of Israel came to
inquire of the Lord of Yahweh and sat before me.
And if you remember God basically was saying.
You.
Impenitent idolaters.
I will not be inquired of you.
And the reason why he will not allow himself to be inquired is of him because is that they were engaging in something called syncretism.
All right.
Sure.
We want to hear what Yahweh has to say, but we also want to worship a Shira.
We want to we want to Fire up incense for ball.
We want to sacrifice children to Molech, you know.
It's a standard it's fair kind of stuff.
So God calls them on that and basically says I will not be inquired of
by you because of these things and so we continue then.
Where God is going to give a positive thing in the middle of a negative rebuke.
You'll note that this is one of the themes that you see in Scripture because in Scripture which is true the law
or the gospel.
The answer is yes.
Both both are true and the law has a particular purpose.
The purpose of the law is to make you aware of your sin and call you to repentance.
The gospel tells us what God has done or will do in the in this particular case
and Aspects of the gospel are designed to comfort the penitent.
But they cannot provide comfort for the impenitent because the promises do not apply to the impenitent.
They only apply to the penitent.
So the text then goes on to say verse 33 as I live declares the Lord Yahweh.
Surely with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out I will be
king over you and every time I hear God talk like this Outstretched arm.
What does that sound like Crucifixion, right?
You know, I've never heard Kings talk about outstretched arms in such ways.
But you know, maybe this is a common thing but you'll note that as Christians we look back at that and go that sounds
crazily like the crucifixion and This when this past Wednesday night,
oh.
Okay, hang on a second here, am I am I echoing.
All right.
Okay this past one this past week when I was for the midweek service, we were looking at the
crucifixion of Christ and I Noted that Christ has chosen the
cross to be his throne.
He is chosen to have a crown of thorns rather than a crown of gold and jewels.
And this was all part of his.
His.
Decision to make and so you'll note that same theme runs here as I live declares the Lord Yahweh surely with a mighty
hand and an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out.
I will be king over you.
But here's the interesting bit.
With wrath poured out.
I will be king over you.
Through the cross.
My question is this.
Who was the wrath poured out on Christ.
So if you read it the way the world would read it God's coming back and he's
Christ is coming.
He's gonna.
You're I'm gonna be king over you.
Like this, that's not.
That's not exactly what this was referring to.
Because you'll note through the cross we recognize with an outstretched arm Christ is our king and with wrath poured out He
is king over us, but he is the one who endured that wrath for us.
But for everybody who remains impenitent.
The wrath that this is going to be referring to is the wrath to come when Jesus returns in glory to judge the living and The
dead so it just like swords have two edges to them.
I would note this part of the Oracle has a double edge to it the edge of the law and the edge of the
gospel the edge of the gospel because of we are Believers in Christ and been brought to penitent faith in
him we can sit there and go.
Yep.
The wrath of God's been poured out on King Jesus and he was stretched out his arms were stretched out and nailed to the cross and he
bled and died for us and absolutely he's.
This is good stuff and The and the those who are impenitent sit there and go.
Oh, we're in trouble.
Right.
It's fascinating how.
If you read it as a believer in Christ, you see it one way as an unbeliever because you don't
believe the gospel.
The gospel is completely foreign to you and that the scripture lies locked up.
This is all thread.
Is that interesting?
So.
Then he says I will bring you out from the people's I will gather you out of the countries where you are Scattered with a mighty hand
and an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out now.
This is a second wrath.
Right.
This is the wrath that when happens when Jesus returns in glory to judge the living and the dead.
But we who are in Christ he says to us he will gather us from out of the countries where we are
scattered so note.
Since we're all grafted into Israel, you know, I always like to say what Mikey DeGraw said years ago.
Mazel Tov, you know, congratulations.
Yeah, we're all we're all Israeli Israelites now that being the case when Christ returns
He's going to gather us his people from all the countries that we've been scattered.
If you've been scattered to the country of Minnesota, you know, it's not really a country, but you know.
But if this is where you've been scattered Christ will gather you from here.
Which is thank God because I hope it's warmer where we're going.
So He's just I'm just looking at the forecast today going seriously.
Really?
It's like So I thought March is supposed to go out like a lamb, you know, it's like I'm
just a little annoyed at the moment.
Weather reference for those of you not geographically located in Minnesota at the moment.
We we're under a severe winter advisory potential of a 1 to 7 inches of snow between now and 10 a
.m. Tomorrow.
It's like why?
Why so and there's already snow on the ground now, you could say we've already got the first dustings.
All right moving on.
Okay.
So I will gather you.
Out of the countries where you are scattered with a mighty hand and outstretched arm and with wrath poured out I will bring you into the
wilderness of the peoples and there I will enter into judgment with you face -to -face.
Does that sound like the day of judgment to you?
Yes.
It should okay as I entered into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt.
So I will enter into judgment with you declares the Lord Yahweh.
I will make you pass under the rod.
I will bring you into the bond of the covenant.
I will purge out the rebels from among you.
Yes, and those who transgress against me and I will bring them out of the land where they
sojourned.
But they shall not enter the land of Israel.
Then you will know that I am Yahweh.
Now a little bit of a note here.
I.
Can hear some of you going well, isn't this referring to like when is it when the The the the time in Babylon
was over and they returned to the promised land.
No, we already read this.
We already read Ezra and Nehemiah.
Do you recall any of this happening?
No.
This is an eschatological promise here.
So the land of Israel Will not be a postage stamp piece of property in the
middle of the Middle East.
The the land of Israel will be none other than the entire new earth.
Okay, you kind of think have to think of it that way.
Okay.
All right, as for you Oh house of Israel thus says the Lord Yahweh go serve
every one of you his idols now and hereafter.
I will not if you will not listen to me.
If you're not gonna listen to God go ahead and worship your idols.
Yeah, eat and sleep for tomorrow you and burn in hell, but it doesn't say that but yeah, that's kind of the point.
Right close to it, right.
Um, you go and serve every one of you as idols now and hereafter if you will not listen to me.
But my holy name you shall know more profane with your gifts and your idols.
So, you know God's basically done.
And the thing is is that syncretism is a tough thing to get rid of it.
That's the best way I can put it.
It's once it starts getting ingrained.
It's crazy.
Right.
Right, and I would even say other other you know, like what used to be called the mainline Protestant
denominations that crazy stuff going on here.
I Was watching the kerfuffle unfold this week as a
pastor in the state of Washington.
I kid you not.
It showed this part of the sermon appeared on something called the woke preacher clips YouTube channel
all right, there's a fellow who has dedicated himself to kind of slogging through
the different, you know far woke left pastors and and pastrix's
and and people who have pronoun issues.
And and talk about them and he found a clip from a guy in Washington who preached a sermon
a couple weeks ago basically claiming that.
The that God should be worshiping man.
It's it's it was stunning.
Okay, it was absolutely stunning.
I've never seen Mike winger be on something so up to date.
He actually put out a video on it and he called it Satanism.
I thought dang when you're nailed it, man.
It's just you know that the belief that God should worship us.
That's crazy.
That's what Satan was trying to do with Jesus in the wilderness, right?
So.
Yeah, anyway, it's just yeah, we have lots of problems with syncretism and bizarre stuff going on in the church now.
God says as for you a house of Israel that says the Lord Yahweh go serve every one of you as idols now and hereafter.
If you will not listen to me.
But my holy name you will no more profane with your gifts and your idols.
For on my holy mountain the mountain height of Israel declares the Lord Yahweh.
There all the house of Israel all of them shall serve me in the land there I will accept them
and there I will require your contributions and the choices of your gifts and all your sacred offerings.
So you're gonna note here this points to the fact that in the new earth, there's legitimately
going to be forms of worship and That in the new earth, we will be bringing
contributions and gifts to God.
Keep all of that in mind that's kind of cool, right?
All right, but it's gonna be true worship.
No tainted sin kind of stuff.
It's gonna be great as a pleasing aroma.
I will accept you when I bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you have been scattered and I
will manifest my holiness among you in the sight of the Nations now
here nations so this is goi and This this is not
Talking about in the sight of the nations as far as pagan nations at this point.
But this may in fact really be referring to the different ethnicities that exist within the world.
Okay, so you'll note that we Europeans because that's what most of us
are some of us aren't but we Europeans.
We're kind of a people.
We're kind of a we're kind of a race.
We're kind of a nation in that sense.
That so the idea here is is it's it's talking about the fact that we still continue to have some of that
Identity moving into the new earth.
We will be one big body and still have different distinctions, right?
So which is kind of nice.
So and you shall know that I am Yahweh when I bring you into the land of Israel the country I swore to give to your
fathers.
Isn't that interesting.
They said that the country of sword to give to your fathers and he's not talking about the postage stamp piece of property.
How do I know?
Here we got to do some cross -reference work again.
Let me show you how I know we're not talking about this tiny little place.
You know, we're at the place where they're getting ready to invade in Brava and all that kind of stuff because.
Yeah, that's that's a big news thing right now red heifer, okay.
So, let me let me show you how I know this isn't talking about this.
And so if you don't pay attention to scripture, you don't let scripture interpret scripture.
You're gonna end up with a really bad ideas.
And so you'll note in Hebrews chapter 11 It says by faith Abraham
obeyed.
When he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance.
Okay, so far so good.
You're thinking okay, it's earthly right and he went out not knowing where he was going.
That's usually what happens when I go into Walmart, by the way, I'm just just want to make that clear.
And by faith, he went to live in the land of promise as in a foreign land living in his tents.
With Isaac and Jacob heirs with him of the same promise.
For he was looking to the city that has foundations whose designer
and Builder is God.
What kind of city is that.
Okay.
So you'll note it says what Abraham was looking for.
Does any book any book of the Old Testament say it this clearly?
No.
And you'll note then when we when we look at what we just read in Ezekiel and rerun it through this text.
Which gives us the clarity we can see what's going on.
So then watch what it says.
All of these died in faith.
Not having received the things promised Abraham did not receive the
promised land.
Cuz why.
Cuz he was looking for the city whose designer and builder is God.
Right.
But having seen them and greeted them from afar and Having
acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.
And that's what we are for people who speak thus make it clear that they are seeking a homeland.
If they had been thinking of that land from which they had gone out they would have had opportunity to return.
But as it is they desire a better country that is a heavenly one.
Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God for he has prepared for them a city.
Huh?
So you'll note then.
That the promised land is not about any squabble going on over any
piece of property.
Anywhere, but in in the Middle East between Egypt and Syria, it's just not.
Okay, because the the promised land of the Old Testament of Abraham's time
is a type and shadow.
Pointing us to the real thing.
And the real thing is the thing that is still yet to come.
So you'll note then he says and you shall know that I am Yahweh when I bring you into the land
of Israel the country I swore to give to your fathers.
So what's the country God promised to give to their fathers the the new earth?
Okay, and There you shall remember you shall remember your ways.
And all your deeds with which you have defiled yourselves and you shall loathe yourselves.
For all the evils that you've committed.
And you shall know that I am Yahweh when I deal with you for my name's sake.
Not according to your evil ways nor according to your corrupt deeds.
Oh house of Israel declares the Lord Yahweh.
So God says to those who will be saved I will not deal with you according to your corrupt ways.
Which then kind of invokes one of the big promises of the New Covenant was the major promise of the New Covenant.
God remembers to forget your sins.
Right.
So there is a sense then in what this text is saying.
We will have some memory of what it is that we've done and we will lament and loathe and hate what we've done in
this world in sin.
But God is not going to deal with us according to what we've done because he deals with us in mercy because of Christ.
So the word of Yahweh came to me son of man set your face toward the south land preach against the
south and prophesy against the forest land in the Negev.
Say to the forest of the Negev hear the word of Yahweh.
Thus says the Lord Yahweh behold I will kindle a fire in you and it shall devour every green
tree in you and every dry tree.
The blazing flame shall not be quenched and all faces from south to north
shall be scorched by it.
All flesh shall see that I Yahweh have kindled it.
It shall not be quenched.
And then I said ah Lord Yahweh they are saying of me.
Is he not a maker of parables?
So after hearing these rebukes from God through Ezekiel.
The response of these idolaters these syncretistic idolaters they're in exile because of their syncretistic
idolatry is We don't understand you you're a speaker in parables.
But was he.
No.
He's God was kind of just being straightforward.
It's like.
So the word of Yahweh came to me son of man Set your face towards Jerusalem preach against the
sanctuaries prophesy against the land of Israel and say to the land of Israel thus
says Yahweh behold I am against you and I will draw my sword from its sheath and I will cut off
from you both Righteous and wicked because I will cut off from you both righteous and wicked Therefore my
sword shall be drawn from its sheath against all flesh from south to north and all flesh shall know that I
am Yahweh I've drawn my sword from its sheath. It shall not be sheathed again.
Yeesh.
Terrifying.
As for you son of man Grown I do that every morning when I get out of bed.
Right.
I don't have to.
I have to do this again.
Barb get the wedge
as for you son of man grown.
With breaking heart and bitter grief groan before their eyes.
And when they say to you, why do you groan?
You shall say because of the news that is coming.
Every heart will melt and all hands will be feeble.
Every spirit will faint all knees will be weak as water.
Behold it is coming and it will be fulfilled.
Declares the Lord Yahweh.
And when you hear words like that, so they go what what's gonna be fulfilled, right?
That's kind of the point.
You know, there's a little bit of a build -up and like drawing them in like what is going on?
So the word Lord of Yahweh came to me son of man prophesy and say thus says
Yahweh the Lord saying a sword.
A Sword is sharpened and also polished sharpened for
slaughter polished to flash like lightning.
Now hang on a second here, I just I'm gonna.
I'm gonna do a little word search.
I Gotta switch apps here to do this.
I got a second here.
Do do do do do.
And I'm gonna look for sword.
All right, and I don't want in the Old Testament.
I want it in Revelation, all right, let's see here.
His mouth comes a sword was just to strike the nation's he will rule.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
So let's take a look at Revelation 19.
Revelation 19 because it mentions a sword twice there.
And of course, this is just too small.
All right.
So rejoicing in heaven marriage supper of the Lamb a writer on a white horse.
Ha here it is.
Okay, so then I saw heaven opened behold a white horse the one sitting on it is
called faithful and True and in righteousness he judges and he makes war.
Who's this talking about?
Jesus.
His eyes are like a flame of fire and on his head are many diadems.
And he has a name written that no one knows but by himself.
He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood.
The name by which he is called is the Word of God.
Huh?
The Word of God.
Hmm the halagas to say you okay, and.
The armies of heaven arrayed in fine linen white and pure were following him on white
horses.
From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nation's and he
will rule them with a rod.
Of iron he will tread the winepress the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.
On his robe and on his thigh He has a name written king of kings and lord of lords.
And then I saw an angel standing in the Sun with a loud voice.
He called to all the birds that fly directly overhead Come gather for the great supper of God to eat the flesh
of kings the flesh of captains the flesh of the mighty men.
The flesh of horses and their riders and the flesh of all men both free and slave both small and great.
And I saw the beasts the king of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on
the horse.
And against his army and the beast was captured with it.
The false prophet who is in its Presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had
received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image.
These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.
The rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse.
And all the birds were gorged with their flesh.
Now a little bit of a note here.
I'm gonna do something really quick here.
See if I can do this expediently.
I want to look for oh
Look, it's precious moments.
Jesus.
Okay.
You'll know that a lot of people are going to and they do they reject what Revelation says here.
Because they have idolized This aspect of Christ.
We are not denying that Christ is the friend of sinners.
That Christ has let the children come to me and that Christ is our Good Shepherd.
We are not denying any of that, but here's the thing.
This loving kind Almost soft.
Jesus have to be careful how we describe him here.
This is the this is the Jesus that comes with the gospel.
You don't get this Jesus if you persist in sin and unbelief.
You get the other one.
You get the one who has the sword coming out of his mouth the one who legitimately.
Himself.
Slays the nations.
Okay, so.
You'll note then there's nothing wrong with having this view of Jesus, but this only comes through the
gospel.
And.
If if you then as a Christian say well I reject this idea that Jesus has a sword coming out of
his mouth and he slays the nations because it contradicts this.
Okay.
Does it?
Does it contradict that?
Think of it this way.
Okay, those of you who are dads, right?
Kids look up to us, right?
Well, at least when they're smaller now I have to look up to my son, but that's a different story.
They look up to us right.
And and when your kids are small.
All right.
And.
Let's say you take them to a family picnic and you decide that you're gonna go down to the river or maybe go to one Of the 10 million
lakes in Minnesota somewhere.
Right, you know, it always fascinates me here because people will disappear.
Well, where you been?
Oh, we were at the lake.
Which one?
Right right.
So you take them to the lake right and there at the lake is you know, you're camping with your
family and then the camp spot next to you is Another family or a dude who has a big
scary dog, right?
And the dog doesn't like your children.
In fact, your dog doesn't really like your smallest child, right?
But are you not kind to your children you are?
Okay, but if that's dog starts barking and getting aggressive, what are you gonna do dad?
You're gonna stand between your child and that dog and you're gonna be shouting at that dog Tell him to back down and
back off right and as you're talking to that dog Are you gonna be looking like this?
No.
Okay.
There might be a whole other level to you that most of the time never appears until your kids are in
danger and all of a sudden that guy gets unlocked right and that guy's that guy means
business he's got an angry tone and he's Doing this kind of
thing, you know make himself bigger, right?
Is that a contradiction in who you are as a father?
No, it's not.
So when we when we talk about the different aspects of God It's important for us
to remember we talk about God in both his I.
In his.
His primary work and his alien work.
Okay, when God is Bleeding suffering and dying for our sins
When he is acting in kindness and forgiving us remembers the glory of God to forgive sinners, right?
This is God's primary mode.
This is his primary work.
God's alien work is the work when he acts in wrath and that only
shows up when he is provoked and Normally, he's provoked over a long
period of time God is slow to anger abounding in steadfast love, but when he finally does say
enough is enough It's kind of like Popeye the Sailor man.
He eats a spinach and then it's it's over for you know for for Bluto, right?
I just am I does anyone know what I'm talking about here.
Is that just too old?
Right.
So.
You'll know what we just read in Revelation and what reading in Ezekiel.
These are hard things to hear but this is an important aspect of who God is and
this is according to his alien work.
It is not a contradiction of the merciful kind Jesus who comes to us and say
come to me.
All you are heavy laden and I will give you rest.
It is not a it is not a contradiction of the Good Shepherd who lays down his life for the sheep.
It is not contradiction at all when God acts in wrath.
This is what happens when God is provoked over a long period of time and note then there are
legitimate and real consequences For our sin
and There is real justice for those who don't want mercy.
Keep that in mind.
A sword.
A sword is sharpened also polished.
Sharpened for slaughter.
Polished to flash like lightning.
Or shall we rejoice?
You have despised the rod my son with everything of wood.
So the sword is given to be polished that it may be grasped in the hand.
It is sharpened and polished to be given into the hand of the slayer.
Cry out and wail son of man.
For it is against my people.
It is against all the princes of Israel.
They are delivered over to the sword with my people.
Strike therefore upon your thigh.
For it will not be a testing.
What could I do if you despise the rod?
Declares the Lord Yahweh as.
For you son of man prophesy.
Clap your hands and let the sword come down twice.
Yes three times.
The sword for those to be slain.
It is the sword for the great slaughter which surrounds them that their hearts may melt and may stumble
at all their gates.
I have given the glittering sword.
Ah, it is made like lightning.
It is taken up for slaughter.
Cut sharply to the right.
Set yourself to the left wherever your face is directed.
I also will clap my hands and I will satisfy my fury.
I Yahweh have spoken the word of Yahweh came to me as for you Son -of -man.
Mark two ways for the sword of the king of for of the king of Babylon to come.
Both of them shall come from the same land and.
Make a signpost.
Make it at the head of the way to a city.
Mark the way for the sword to come to Rabba of the Ammonites and to Judah into
Jerusalem the fortified.
So here God is telling him to make a sign like, you know.
Yeah, y 'all remember the movie that the television show mash.
All right, and they had this big old signpost, you know.
This many miles to Tokyo this many miles to Los Angeles and Washington DC all that kind of similar thing going on here.
He's making a sign similar to this but basically says this way to Rabba that way to Judah.
I don't know if they use miles back then.
I don't think so.
That's kind of a English thing.
But you get the point for the king of Babylon stands at the parting of the way at the head of the two ways to use
Divination.
He shakes the arrows.
He consults the Tara theme.
He looks at the liver into his right hand.
Come the divination for Jerusalem.
To set battering rams to open the mouth with murder.
So note here the king of Babylon is a guy who's engaging in like fortune -telling
and looking for signs and things like this he'll take a group of arrows and put them in a bundle and then toss them on the
ground and you're supposed to be able to read based Upon the patterns that they make what to do next and then it talks about how
he uses the liver.
Okay, this is this is a horrible practice.
Basically, you take an animal you kill it you take its guts its innards and you know.
And you just make a splat with it and then you you're able to then Divine, well, you know by
looking at how the splat does its thing, you know, what's what you're supposed to be looking for.
It's it's gross.
Yes.
Splatomancy, that's I.
We should make a petition among the academic community to have that recognized as the official name for it.
But you get the idea it's kind of a gross thing like looking at the end trails of animals
for the purpose of like Divining things.
It's like who came up with this idea, you know.
I remember years and years and years ago when I was growing up my parents and I we went to.
To.
Vancouver British Columbia and We were there during the the
exact time when Charles and Diana had gotten married and so the whole
city was just Completely like goo goo over the whole wedding and all this kind of stuff a little they know that was
coming and none of us knew, you know, but all they know is that Charles has taken a wife and
the Ceremony was beautiful.
Her dress was stunning I mean the bride was gorgeous and it was all the all the rage and my parents
they wanted they wanted to have dinner that night and Because of the
like the it was like practically a national holiday.
The only place we could get dinner that night was in Chinatown okay, so
Vancouver has a big Chinatown.
They have a big Chinese community so we went to Chinatown and we found one of these like authentic Chinese
places and I kid you not we were having a hard time ordering because it's The the English translations
were wanting in the end, you know Thankfully they had photographs of some of their their their things and we
would point to stuff.
So afterwards because there weren't that many people in the in that restaurant.
Afterwards the owner Came up to greet us and to thank us for coming for dinner and all this kind of stuff
and the owners wife said would you like me to read your tea leaves and My mom said
sure and I'm looking at what's this, you know.
And so she legitimately took the tea leaves from the kettle and you know poured it into you know the thing and then
You got rid of it.
And at the end there was like a thing and she pointed to the thing.
Oh Yeah, yeah.
Very important things are coming out kind of stuff.
Who invented this who came up with this idea?
How does the universe have contact with us through tea leaves?
I was looking at this going.
This is this makes any sense, right?
But that that's kind of a modern manifestation of what's being described here, but you know, I never forget that night.
It was it was a very interesting night.
Huh, what does what does Lipton say?
Right.
It's not the name of a character from oh I forget I did when I hear the name Lipton.
I think of a movie where there was a character named Lipton so nerdy kind of fellow, but that's a whole other
story.
All right.
So.
So it says this the King of Babylon stands at the parting of the way at the head of the two ways to use
divination.
He shakes the arrows.
He consults the terrapin.
He looks at the liver.
This is all divination into his right hand.
Comes the divination for Jerusalem to set battering rams to open the mouth with murder.
To lift up the voice with shouting.
To set battering rams against the gates to cast up mounds.
To build siege towers.
But to them it will seem like a false divination.
They have sworn solemn oaths, but he brings their guilt to remembrance that they may be
taken.
So that's what's gonna happen so note when Ezekiel wrote this the the the total fall of Jerusalem
hadn't come yet and That is about to come and so he's talking
this is God giving him an oracle of prophecy about what's coming in the future and saying that
When the King of Babylon finally decides that he's going to do this He's gonna practice divination and the divination is
going to be the thing that's going to convince them.
They need to do it and even then they're gonna think that the divination is a false divination.
But they're gonna be so superstitious.
They're gonna obey the divination.
Is that interesting?
Like what on earth.
Okay, all right now, let me see here.
I'm gonna check questions to see if there's anything notable that I should be commenting on.
All right, let's see here.
Too much wrath and judgment for his best life now.
Joel Osteen will never preach on this text.
That's right.
Unless we get David Loewe to do it, you know as a proxy which I still am stunned by that performance.
So.
If you don't know what we're talking about in the we did a prophecy being a few months ago with David Loewe from the cessationist
documentary and He had told us that he has this thing that he does.
Where he tells people to pick any text from the Bible and he'll preach it as Joel Osteen.
Okay, and Josh and I were like challenge accepted and like we came up with like passages like
that.
Were the most negative things ever.
Okay, Josh had picked like, you know, Judas just hung himself in the next passage go down and do likewise.
And he turned to what he actually preached that I'd flipped it into a positive and I've never seen anything like
it.
So it's a just saying it's worth the watch.
Okay.
Jody what's with everything.
Everything of would mean that's it.
This is a reference to so many of the idols back then the idols were either made of stone or wood.
And so God so it's a reference to the idols.
Lightning lightning lightning mentioned with the sword reminds me of the last day when the coming of Jesus is compared to a lightning
flashing over the Sky, is that a correct connection Daniel?
Absolutely.
That is a correct connection.
You'll know you're picking up on aspects and this is how we're supposed to read the Bible a Bible hyperlinks to itself and let those
clearer passages and let those passages that are Dealing with the same thing help fill out your understanding of them.
I wonder how the modern wrath deniers reconcile their beliefs with Sodom Noah's flood the fall of Jerusalem.
Boy, Lily, I I legitimately don't know how they do it
they I think they basically just look at these events as if somehow God's wrath had no
bearing or any Participation in it because they deny that God even has wrath you know if
you if you really like.
Yeah.
Right.
Oh, I do know how Brian McLaren denies it.
Brian McLaren's way of denying it is actually quite clever.
What Brian McLaren does his first move is to declare that the entire Bible is a
product of human thinking and.
So we're gonna take the Bible.
It's no longer the Word of God.
It's just the product of humans and his contention is that
Humanity has developed a better understanding of God.
So in the Old Testament, this was the best that they can come up with in their belief that God
was acting and wrathfully.
But they didn't they didn't understand the true nature of God which comes later.
And so we've developed past that.
Okay, the belief that God is a wrathful being that's that's going back to the infancy of
humanity.
And is and is we we did is it is silly for us to think things like this.
Right, exactly.
But that's a clever argument.
I think it's really clever and most deceivers are so and then and then do they even spiritualize
the events?
No, they just basically say that the authors Recorded them in falsely, but you know in
McLaren's case He says that you know that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah in no way is about God's wrath.
Okay, at least not against not against sodomites, you know, and he even bristles at that topic,
you know that language.
So, okay, we are to the point where I have to go.
So we are going to wrap up here.
There is no Sunday school next week.
Keep that in mind.
But Lord willing we'll see you guys at the different things that we're offering this week for Holy Week.
In this and they and the church service itself the Kongsvinger church service is at 10 a .m.
All right.
Peace to you Lord willing.
We'll see you next time.