August 21, 2017 Show with Anthony Mathenia on “Recounting Resistance & Rejection (Acts 7)”

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It's my honor and privilege to have on the program today for the very first time ever Anthony Mathenia, he is pastor of Christ Church in Radford, Virginia. He's a board member at heart cry Missionary Society the organization founded by Paul Washer.

He's also a speaker at the upcoming g3 conference, which is going to be held in Atlanta, Georgia from January 18th through the 20th, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you to iron sharpens iron radio for the very first time Anthony.

Mathenia.

Thanks. I appreciate it. I'm glad to be able to talk with you today.

Yes.

And in studio with me is my co-host the Reverend buzz Taylor. And hello once again. And if anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own for Anthony Mathenia We are going to be speaking today on recounting resistance and rejection from Acts chapter 7 Including the stoning of Stephen the first martyr of the Christian Church and.

Our email address if you'd like to join us is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Chris ar n z n at gmail .com. Please give us your first name your city and state and your country of residence if you live outside of the USA.

You may remain anonymous if it makes you feel more comfortable because of it. Involving a personal and private matter. That's Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. But before I Go into our subject at hand Anthony I'd like first of all for you to explain a little bit about Christ Church in Radford, Virginia and also heart cry missionary society.

And then we'll be going into if you don't mind hearing a brief summary of your own conversion to Christ the the providential circumstances that our Sovereign Lord brought about in your life that drew you to himself and saved you and What kind of religion if any you were raised in etc.

But before we get into that Let's hear something about Christ Church in Radford, Virginia.

Sir, we and.

What would be a description of the the church theologically and denominationally if any.

It we're not a Billy. Yes. I know that the New Hampshire.

Confession is somewhat of a Revised version of the 1689 London Baptist Confession to some degree, correct?

Yes, and.

The g3 conference is coming up January 18 through the 20th. Pastor Josh Bice. And the folks that praise mill Baptist Church have been running this Conference for a number of years not not very many years, but for a number.

I think this is going to be the second One that's actually being held at the Atlanta International Convention Center there in Atlanta, Georgia. But you are on the roster this time and I'm looking forward to seeing you preach In person for the first time I've seen you preach on video on the internet.

But I've never seen you face-to-face before. I'm looking forward to that and you are on a very long roster of very Impressive brethren who are going to be speaking, but I know this is early on. That the event is not until January, but have they informed you yet of what your specific topic of discussion is going to be.

No.

At this point I have no idea what I'll be speaking on. Generally, Josh Bice, who's the host usually leaves it up to me and we haven't discussed it in detail yet.

But yeah, and I know that the umbrella theme is Knowing God a biblical understanding of discipleship. And and just to whet the appetite of our listeners, I'll be repeating this later but this conference which this will be God willing the second one I'm attending has a Lineup that has more people on it than many conferences that I've attended had in their audience.

They've got Stephen Lawson Vodie Balcom Phil Johnson Keith Getty HB Charles jr Tim Challis Josh Bice James white Tom Askell Anthony Mathenia who is my guest today? Michael Kruger who is my guest about a week ago David Miller Paul trip Todd Friel Derek Thomas and Martha peace.

Most of these folks I've had on the program and I'm looking forward to Eventually interviewing each and every one of them, but if any of you can make it out to This conference. I strongly urge you to do so.

Go to g3 conference calm. G3 conference calm and you can register there and make sure you Mention to anybody there. Organizing the conference that you heard about The g3 conference from Chris Arnzen and iron sharpens iron radio.

Well now as I mentioned before Usually when I have a first-time guest on iron sharpens iron, I like them to give a summarized version of their own Testimony of coming to Christ starting with the religious atmosphere if any you were raised in.

Yes, I grew up Southern Baptist at the time praise God in 19 1999 spring of 1999. I finished school in December 98 and was converted spring of 99 and almost immediately after that. There was a desire for a minute to another.

I ended up well.

I guess that God had other plans, but you are certainly on a mission field involving a domestic Unbelievers as well as shepherding those who are believers and who have been led to be nurtured under your headship there and When you were Newly converted just out of curiosity because I know that there are many different personalities of men that exist Among those who enter them to the ministry.

There's not a cookie cutter personality, but was there anything about? You even before you were regenerate that made you think when you became Regenerate so quickly that you would like to be in the ministry.

Did you have any kind of gift for? Public speaking were you extroverted were you was there anything about you that? That you had boldness to speak to groups and things like that that made you Automatically think to yourself.

I'd like to enter into the ministry after you were converted or was this purely a Work of the Holy Spirit on your heart. Well, I guess it was certainly Purely the Holy Spirit that led you to that conclusion.

Well, you'd mentioned a little bit about heart cry missionary society. I know that Paul Washer founded it. Can you tell us about some of the things that heart cry missionary society is routinely involved in?

Can you repeat that question? Sorry.

Can you tell us more about some specific things that heart cry missionary society is routinely involved in. I know you. Set up conferences for Paul Washer and so on. But anything else that you could let our listeners know about.

Yes, we are. Well, if anybody wants to know more about and I'll be repeating this later.

But if you want to know more about the Christ Church of Radford, Virginia, you can go to Christ Church Radford org Christ Church Radford org and for the heart cry missionary society. You can go to heart cry missionary calm heart cry missionary calm and God willing.

We'll be repeating that later on.

And.

There is a Question we have from a listener that is a little bit off topic, but I'll have I'll ask her question anyway. This is Rose in Harrisburg Pennsylvania she says. I Know it doesn't have anything to do with the topic of discussion on Monday but I was wondering if you might be able to ask brother Anthony how brother Paul Washer is doing and she says Brother Anthony was such a blessing in the behold your God series.

I taught it for a lady's Bible study and it was a phenomenal study. She adds.

Yes, thanks for that. Praise God. Yeah, I had the privilege of.

Seeing Paul preach at the g3 conference this past January and this was before anyone really knew including Paul What was going on with his health? He had been going to doctors and so on and was very weak and Even during that conference, but was able to preach very very powerfully.

You would never have known he was sick and and but his friends and those of His admirers in the audience. There were certainly a concerned about his health and I'm so delighted to get this update. Well today we are going to be discussing something that you had preached on Recounting resistance and rejection from Acts chapter 7 and what I'd like to do now is I would just like to read a part of the end of Acts chapter 6 and a part of the end of chapter 7 and we'll basically have you fill in the the middle part of this due to time restraints, I'm just going to read the selected portions of scripture that I just mentioned and We have in the last part of Acts chapter 6 Beginning at Let's see.

I'll start at Verse 7 the Word of God kept on spreading and the number of disciples Continued to increase greatly in Jerusalem and a great many of the priests were becoming obedient to the faith and Stephen Full of grace and power was performing great wonders and signs among the people.

But some men from what was called the synagogue of the freedmen including both Cyrenians and Alexandrians and some from Sicilia and Asia rose up and argued with Stephen. But they were unable to cope with the wisdom and the spirit with which he was speaking.

Then they secretly induced men to say We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses and against God and they stirred up the people and the elders and the scribes and they came up to Him and dragged him away and brought him before the council.

They put it they put forward false witness who said This man incessantly speaks against this holy place and the law for we have heard him say that this Nazarene Jesus will destroy this place and after the customs which Moses handed down to us and Fixing their gaze on him all who were sitting in the council saw his face Like the face of an angel.

Then we're going to be moving on to chapter 7 Beginning at first 51 Where Stephen says you men who are stiff-necked and Uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit. You are doing just as your fathers did which one of the prophets did your fathers not?

Persecute they killed those who had previously announced the coming of the Righteous One. Whose betrayers and murderers you have now become? You who received the law as ordained by angels and yet did not keep it.

Now when they heard this they were cut to the quick and they began gnashing their teeth at him but being full of the Holy Spirit he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God and He said behold I see the heavens open up and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.

But they cried out with a loud voice and covered their ears and rushed at him with one impulse. When they had driven him out of the city They began stoning him and the witnesses laid aside their robes at the feet of a young man named Saul.

They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said Lord Jesus received my spirit then falling on his knees. He cried out with a loud voice Lord do not hold this sin against them. Having said this he fell asleep.

Very interesting and similarity. Very interesting similarity to what Stephen was saying at his death to what the Lord himself Jesus Christ was saying on the cross at Golgotha.

But.

In between this. These two segments that I wrote basically we have Stephen as you know as you were bringing about in your sermon Stephen's summary of.

The.

History of the Jews resisting God by rejecting Abraham by rejecting Joseph by rejecting Moses by rejecting David and by rejecting Solomon. In this temple if you could start off how these old covenant pictures were really a sign of a rejection of Christ which actually actually came to fruition in the.

The murder of Jesus Christ, of course, we know that he laid his own life down willingly, but he was simultaneously murdered by sinners. But if you could tell us about these things that you brought up in this very powerful sermon that you preached not long ago.

Yeah, Stephen does a wonderful job. He has the opportunity. I'm one of you. He's saying it again beginning over them undermine it and we can see that happening in the cross, you know that.

That message to by Joseph to his brothers is really a Very powerful evidence for God being sovereign in the midst of evil. Because he does say although his brothers meant What they did to Joseph for evil God meant it for good there.

It seems to be God's very intimate Involvement extremely intimate involvement in the horrific acts that they performed his brothers. Joseph's brothers performed against him and Which for which they were terrified when they saw that he was alive and standing over them as a ruler.

Yes, it's amazing that God in his kind follow the evil and and.

This passage in Acts. Also, it reminds me of the parable of the marriage feast in Matthew chapter 22 1 through 14. I was actually given the privilege to preach on that my my. The congregation where I belong Grace Baptist Church of Carlisle, Pennsylvania asked me to preach at a men's shelter.

There were many addicts there as well and.

I.

Happen to have a very strong place in my heart for that kind of ministry because I was actually in a place like that myself in Boone, North Carolina. Where there is a wonderful men's ministry for? Those seeking to overcome a drug and alcohol addiction and.

I.

After after repenting of drunkenness In my mid -20s when I first became a believer. Sadly backslid into that sin and thankfully was rescued out of it by going to that ministry, but.

The.

When I was preaching that the text I was basically informing those that were gathered there that the parable of the marriage feast was a summary of the history of not only redemption but the history of the persecution of God's people whose Prophets and even Christ from the days of the Old Covenant straight through the days of the New Testament.

Would you find that same parallel there?

Yes, yes and.

For those of our listeners who may be unfamiliar with what that is actually talking about. Is that if we seek to Merit heaven in any way with our own Righteousness if we are just clothed in our own goodness.

We will certainly be cast into hell because our goodness is nothing more than filthy rags in the sight of God and we we need To be clothed with the righteousness of Christ. Can you tell us more about what that picture actually means?

Yes, and. Well, I'm thinking about it in preaching that passage.

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Welcome back. This is Chris Arns. And if you just tuned us in our guest today for the full two hours with just about 90 minutes to go is Anthony Mathenia. He is a pastor at Christ Church in Radford, Virginia a board member at heart cry Missionary Society and a speaker at the upcoming G3 conference in Atlanta, Georgia, January 18th through the 20th.

We are addressing today recounting resistance and rejection from acts chapter 7. If you would like to join us, our email address is Chris Arnson at gmail .com. Chris Arnson at gmail .com. And we do have a listener in White Plains, New York named RJ.

Who says I constantly hear people diminishing the importance of what your guest was just speaking about in? Regards to ecumenism between Roman Catholics and Evangelical Protestants. They say that we recognize our differences in the regard in regards to justification.

But is it really that big of a deal? Can't we just live and let live and agree to disagree? That's RJ in White Plains, New New York. I don't think that RJ was. Was defending that attitude, but he was saying that he hears that.

Yeah, and it's common. Well, thank you RJ. Keep listening to iron sharpens iron radio.

They're in White Plains, New York and keep spreading the word about it beyond. And we have CJ from Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York. Who says why do you think it was that the Jewish leaders? So despised the prophets and even during the New Covenant era so despised Christ and his disciples to the point of wanting them killed.

My co-host the Reverend buzz Taylor has something to say.

Well.

You bring up a point here because I haven't heard it as much lately, but I have heard the argument before that the Jews really didn't kill Christ, you know, it was the Romans or whatever and even though there was more to that but You know Jesus very plainly and of course here Stephen is very clear that they were the ones that became the one they were the crucifiers of Christ if you will.

So, you know people who are trying to say oh the other the argument was like well, yes. But we all killed Jesus because of our sin. So, you know, they don't really hold the Jews of the first century culpable because they you know.

Just they're just like everybody else. How would you address that?

Yes.

But it doesn't make me any less of a sinner if I my sin is still very problematic in that. It will separate me from God forever. And I'll have hell eternal damnation and condemnation. Just to be keep reminding myself his own and his own did not receive him.

I mean this is here in. They rejected it initially. They who are you?

It's kind of like the the other side of what Stephen said concerning Joseph because Joseph did say, you know, God meant it for good, but he also said you meant it for evil. And Here he's pointing out to the first century Jews.

Yeah, it was, you know necessary that Jesus go through this death. But yes, you were the ones who murdered him. So he was showing that they were culpable.

Yeah, I have heard it preached by one of my former pastors. I think it was Mike Gadas from almost certain who now is the director and operator of solid ground Christian books. Now in Florida. Previously in Alabama, he just relocated days ago but Mike Gadas pretty certain preached a sermon where he was.

Taught he was discussing or preaching about those who were responsible for the death of Christ and that included his own people the Jews that included the Romans and Pontius Pilate. That included God the Father who ordained it to happen who poured his wrath on his only son So that the the elect could have eternal life.

That included us because of our sins that contributed to the necessity of The death of Christ that meaning each and every human being that has ever lived.

And.

Also, it was Christ himself who laid down his life willingly, so it was All of it. I think it would be a danger to somehow To somehow focus on the Jews primarily or exclusively because that's another way of using a scapegoat.

Would it not be?

Anthony. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. It's a way to say I'd. Yeah, I think that it's. It's our sin that held him there on the tree.

Amen, and.

It is interesting that I think it's also Another sign of the necessity of The rebirth to even see your need for a Savior the Reformed Ordo salutis or water of salvation how dead man can't even cry out to a Savior unless they are born again that is in genuine repentance and faith and when you have Jesus's own people.

In fact the the people of Yahweh In the Old Covenant who even though they knew the voice of God was heard audibly and they had prophets Who were speaking for God? they continue and saw miracles and saw miracles even as Dramatic as the the plagues that fell upon Egypt and the parting of the Red Sea and things like that They still wound up Rejecting God because And you have that going all the way up through the New Covenant where people are rejecting the disciples and Christ himself, even though they saw Miracles that the Pharisees knew that he did perform miracles They still wanted him dead and that isn't that just a proof that you will reject Christ No matter what you see and hear unless you are regenerate.

Absolutely. Unless you have eyes to see you can't see it.

Yeah, I think the most pointed example of that is when it says that they also sought to put Lazarus to death.

Yeah, and that actually goes back to the other Lazarus the Lazarus because When the rich man was in hell He cried out that Abraham would send the other Lazarus the beggar Lazarus to his brothers to warn them and Abraham said they have the The Moses and the prophets.

Yeah, let them let him let them hear them and.

Because even if one were rise to the from the dead they wouldn't believe right. And a Lazarus did rise. Right. Well, that was a different Lazarus, right? But it's interesting. It was a Lazarus. Yeah raised from the dead.

They still didn't believe but right to kill him to destroy the evidence, you know.

We do have a listener all the way in Slovenia Joe who says thanks for continuing to have representatives from heart cry missions. Oh, yes. I forgot to tell you Anthony I had Don Curran on recently. I don't know if you know Don.

I'm sure you probably do. Yeah, Don was on the program not long ago but Joe in Slovenia says please ask brother Anthony to address the issue of total depravity and bondage of the will as aspects of the fallen human condition Involved in the lives of those who crucified Jesus and stoned Stephen.

Please explain the relation of these doctrines to human responsibility in these cases and by. And and also of those around us today. What lessons are there for us to learn and apply in our own? Interactions with those who reject our attempts at evangelism witnessing and preaching.

Thank you so much for your service to our Savior. Well that that is a whole week's worth of questions. But if you could that's a very good question, but we were actually just talking about it but if you could even just expand a little further the issues of totally total depravity and the bondage of the will.

And.

In contrast to human responsibility in regarding these Persecutions of the prophets and the apostles in Christ.

Sure, I think it's helpful from the outset hit negatively in us Romans spiritually with the image and the likeness of.

And I can't help but immediately think as a Calvinist of Romans 9 Where we start with? Verse 12 The older will serve the younger just that is as it is written Jacob. I loved but he saw. I hated. What shall we say then there is no justice with God is there may it never be for he says to Moses I will have mercy on whom I have mercy and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.

So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs but on God who has mercy for the scripture says to Pharaoh for the very purpose I Raised you up to demonstrate my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed throughout the whole faith Throughout the whole earth.

I'm sorry. So then he has mercy on whom he desires and he hardens whom he desires. You will say to me then why does he still find fault for who resists his will on the contrary? Who are you? Oh man who answers back to God the thing molded will not say to the molder.

Why did you make me like this. Will it or does not the potter have a right over the clay to make from the same? Lump one vessel of honor for honorable use and another for common use. What if God although willing to demonstrate his wrath and to make his power known?

Endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction. And he did so to make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory even us. Whom he also called not from all not from among Jews only but also from among Gentiles.

There you have the built-in answer. To a question it's interesting. Isn't it pastor Anthony that instinctively those who are not? Calvinists and that would include both our Christian brothers who are not Calvinists and also unbelievers when we describe to them The nature of man and how those whom he chooses to regenerate is all according to his own Sovereign choice his sovereign will and his sovereign mercy and grace.

They will say these very things to us. You know, they might reword the the answers that Paul Instinctively knows that man will respond with but you hear that all the time. Don't you like in fact, I heard Years ago in the 1990s. I organized a debate Between my friend. Dr. James R. White of Alpha and Omega ministries and a Non-Calvinist who would be better described as a vehemently anti Calvinist Christian minister and he basically said Almost word for word what Paul predicted he would say he said in regarding to God's sovereignty in election.

Well, how can God still find fault with us? Because how can we you know resist as well?

And.

James said do you realize you're quoting from Romans 9 Paul? Predicted that you would say that very thing and the man obviously didn't understand what James was saying. He said exactly. But but that is.

It's all right there, isn't it? I mean if your interpretation or the way you exegete Romans 9 doesn't have that built-in response Then you're you're not exegeting it properly. Am I right?

And then.

Even Jacob why he showed mercy to shit.

Right, and none of us are better who he is because then when he shows me that will be with me today. But it's amazing. We should be more amazed. Amen. Yes that.

That is really unfortunately in the heart Of most people whether they're Calvinist or not their immediate reaction Might be that we were should I say our immediate reaction to conflict might be that we deserve Better or that we don't deserve whatever Frowning Providence has been brought into our lives.

We.

Truly don't think that we are all that bad even though. We may end on paper. We may even love to hear sermons About how men are totally depraved and we may doctrinally fully agree with it. But when it comes to ourselves, we typically don't.

Logically and consistently follow through with our with our doctrine do it.

No, and that's where it's so helpful for us to follow the path. Amen, and we're going to our midway break.

This is a little longer than normal because of the fact that Grace life radio and Lake City, Florida requires a 12-minute break between our two segments. So I hope you're a patient and I hope that they use those of you who have already submitted questions.

We'll be patient. Until we have our guest pastor Anthony Mathenia answer your questions to the best of his ability. But if anybody would like to get in line and ask questions of your own our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

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