F4F | Isaiah Saldivar Is DEAD WRONG About Judgement Day

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Today's episode of Fighting for the Faith is brought to you by Issues Etc. Can you all hear me now?

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No? No sound. No sound. Hang on a second here. There we go.

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You should be able to hear me now. All right. Okay. Okay, we've got the demons worked out.

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I did a declaration over my computer and we now have sound. Yes, there we go.

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So let me start over by saying welcome to Fighting for the Faith. My name is Chris Roseboro. I am your servant in Jesus Christ.

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This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God. And today's episode is brought to you by Issues Etc.

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Now, here's the thing. We're heading off into a new direction here at Fighting for the Faith.

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We will be doing more live streams. And in order to do a live stream, we're going to have to preempt an episode that I've already pre -recorded.

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In order to kind of manage the workflow here at Fighting for the Faith, we do a lot of pre -recording of episodes. But from time to time, an episode comes up that requires us to respond in the moment.

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And this is one of those episodes. Isaiah Saldivar on his

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YouTube channel has put out a short as well as a little bit of a longer video that shows that this man has not done what is necessary to be a teacher in Christ's church.

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That is to say he has not studied to show himself approved as a workman who need not blush with embarrassment, who can rightly handle the

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Word of truth. And as a result of it, he is teaching falsehood regarding the Day of Judgment as it relates to Christians.

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And by doing what he's doing, it's going to cause some people to doubt their salvation, even though they're saved.

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And it's going to cause other people to believe that we are saved in part or in whole by our works.

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And so what we're going to do on this episode of Fighting for the Faith is we're going to take Isaiah Saldivar's false teaching, and he is a notable false teacher.

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We're going to take it behind the proverbial woodshed. And we're going to beat his false doctrine, not him, but his false doctrine to within an inch of its life and maybe even murder it.

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Now, I'm not saying to murder Saldivar. Keep this in mind. There's a difference between taking on a false teacher's false doctrine and wishing bodily harm on a false teacher.

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We don't wish that on anybody. What we wish is their repentance. And so that being said, let me do this.

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I'm going to remind you all that we have covered

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Isaiah Saldivar several times in the past. He's one of the notable people who teaches that Christians can be possessed by demons.

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It's just utter nonsense. And so he's a demon slayer. And so we've covered that.

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And I would, and if you're thinking, do Christians need demons cast out of them? No. The first John chapter four says, greater is he who is in you than he who is in the world.

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And so we have an entire, more than an hour long episode dedicated to debunking

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Isaiah Saldivar's false doctrine, claiming that Christians can be possessed by demons.

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They can't. And you don't need to have demons cast out of you if you're indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

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But all that being said, the episode that we're focusing on today is not the stuff that we've done in the past.

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Instead, what we're going to focus in on today is a short.

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We're going to start with a short that he recently did. And so the name of the short, it's over here.

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It's called, I Went to Church Every Sunday and Hashtag Judgment Day. And I think what

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I'm going to do is I'm just going to play this out because by playing it out, you can see for yourself what this fellow is teaching regarding Judgment Day and then get ready because it is not going to be hard to blow this whole false doctrine up using biblical text.

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I'll start with the clearest, but we'll do a whole teaching around it because it needs to be done. So let's do this.

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Let's play the short. It's about a minute -ish long and then we will attack that.

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And then as part of the episode, we will also talk about his teaching regarding some Christians will be shocked on Judgment Day.

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If they're Christians, they're not going to be shocked is the way I put it. But you'll see that as the episode develops.

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So let's take a look at the short in question. Here we go. Imagine getting online for Judgment Day. There will be a great line and you're sitting behind the apostle

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Paul. Like, oh, it's a great white judgment. What's your name? Paul. Like, Paul?

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The guy in the Bible, Paul, shipwrecked five times, stoned three times, beaten six, dead.

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Who are you? Oh, I'm Isaiah. What did you do? I mean, I went to church on Sunday.

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Paul's like, but I think you're a Christian. What is that? All right. Big echo from Safari. Hang on a second here.

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Let me figure out why that would be. I know exactly why that's going to be.

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Hang on a second here. Um, boy, technical issues today abounding, right?

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Okay, let me think about how I want to do this. I need to change up how the audio goes so that we don't have the echo.

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Hold on a second here. I got to think this out. I want that to go there.

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Okay, I think I know how to do this. Hold on a second here. I'm going to change something up. I think this is going to result in Joshua having a lot of post editing to do here.

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All right, let's, let's, let's do this again. Let's see if you guys have the echo from this. Hang on a second here.

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Imagine getting online for judgment day. There will be a great line and you're sitting behind the apostle Paul. Like, oh, it's a great white throat judgment.

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What's your name? I'm Paul. Like, like Paul, like the guy in the Bible. Oh yeah. I'm Paul.

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You know, shipwrecked five times, stoned three times, you know, beaten six dead. Oh yeah. All that. That's me. What, who are you?

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Oh, I'm Isaiah. Oh, what, what did you do for, I mean, uh, I went to church on Sunday. Paul's like, well,

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I think you said you're a Christian. What is that? What do you mean you went to church on Sunday? Well, I went, but yeah, but what'd you do for God?

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Well, I gave like 3%. I mean, I don't know. I just went. Paul's like, well, what'd you do there?

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Well, we sing three fast songs, two slow songs, offering, you know, 20 minute message. And then there's this thing called an altar call.

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I didn't really go, so I don't know much about it, but you know, people would go forward and then God would touch them and tell me some stories, the new covenant, the poor yellow.

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I mean, what did you do? And you're like, I don't have any stories, Paul, because I'm not really a

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Christian. I just went to church on Sunday. All right.

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So watching this makes me angrier than, than a lot of things I've watched lately.

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Yeah. I just went to church on Sunday. And based on what he said in this video, uh, on the great white throne judgment day for Christians, if you haven't done something spectacular for Jesus, you know, like the apostle

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Paul, uh, then you're not even a Christian. Now it may be that, uh, it's just bad editing on his part, but the reality is, is that I haven't seen him retract to this video and retract any of the things that it's saying.

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So my question is based on what he said, uh, what are the chances that you or I are going to be saved?

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I mean, after all, how are we supposed to compare to the things that the apostle Paul did?

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And the question is, what did you do for God? And I would note, there's no biblical text that asks that question, but there are biblical texts that teach us what it is that Christians do for Christ.

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And I'm going to start with the clearest one first. So let's do this. I'm going to pull up the book of Colossians, Colossians chapter three.

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And in particular, I'm going to note that there is a section in chapter four, where it specifically says something that we do for Christ.

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And so I'm, I'm going to note, uh, actually here it's at the end of three, check this out.

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Here's the highlighted section. Colossians three 24 says you are serving the

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Lord Christ. Okay. You are serving the Lord Christ. And I would note the things that Paul says that you're doing to serve the

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Lord Jesus Christ are listed above. So let me come back to this and again, play this again so that you can kind of hear the context and then what this passage is teaching.

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Getting online for judgment day, there will be a great line and you're sitting behind the apostle Paul like,

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Oh, it's a great white throat judgment. What's your name? I'm Paul. Like, like Paul, like the guy in the

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Bible. Oh, yeah. I'm Paul, you know, shipwreck. Yeah. The, the apostle Paul, the guy who wrote the epistle, I'm about to quote five times stone three times, you know, beaten sick, dead.

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Oh yeah. All that. That's me. What, who are you? Oh, I'm Isaiah. Oh, what, what did you do for me? I mean, uh,

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I went to church on Sunday. What did you do for Christ? I went to church on Sunday, but I think you said you were a

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Christian. I thought you said you were a Christian. Note, you know, so what did you do for Christ?

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Well, the question is, what did the apostle Paul say that Christians do for Christ? Note, he says here, you are serving the

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Lord Christ. So we're going to apply the three rules for sound biblical exegesis, which are context, context, and of course, context.

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And we are going to note here that, uh, there's a context here. So Paul says, if then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above.

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Now I'm going to get into the earlier portion of Colossians two and in just a little bit, but I want to focus in on this part first.

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So if you have been raised with Christ and anybody who has been baptized into Christ and is a believer in Jesus Christ, uh, for the forgiveness of their sins, they have already been raised with Christ.

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He says, seek the things that are above where Christ is seated at the right hand of God, set your minds on the things that are above, not on the things that are of the earth for you have died in your life is hidden with Christ.

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When Christ, who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. So note as Christians, then we are to listen to this next part and note that we are to do this by the power of the

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Holy Spirit, by the power of the Holy Spirit put to death. Therefore, what is earthly in you? This includes sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, covetousness.

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This is idolatry. On account of these things, the wrath of God is coming in these things.

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You two once walked when you were living in them, but now you must put them all away. Anger, wrath, malice, slander, obscene talk from your mouth.

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Do not lie to one another saying that you have put off the old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in the knowledge after the image of its creator.

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Here there is not Greek and Jew circumcised and uncircumcised barbarian, Scythian, slave, free, but Christ is all and in all.

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So then put on then as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, put on compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience.

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Note here Paul's not going and saying you need to go out and be a world conqueror. You need to take possession of Satan's territory and all this kind of stuff.

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He's admonishing Christians to good works and holiness.

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So put on then as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, put on compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, patience, bearing with one another.

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And I would note if this is the only focus for the next few days or few years of your life, bearing with one another, that's a big deal by the way.

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And if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other as the Lord has forgiven you, you must also forgive.

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And above all these, put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony and let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, which indeed you are called in one body and be thankful.

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Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly. That requires you to read your Bibles by the way.

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If you are biblically illiterate, then the word of Christ isn't dwelling within you richly, it's dwelling within you poorly, right?

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And so we have an admonition from God the Holy Spirit through the apostle Paul to have the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your heart.

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And whatever you do in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the

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Father through him. And now here's the immediate context before the you are serving the

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Lord Christ part. Are you ready? Here's what the apostle

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Paul says you need to do for Christ. Here it is. Wives, submit to your husbands as is fitting in the

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Lord. Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. Children, obey your parents in everything for this pleases the

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Lord. Fathers, do not provoke your children unless they become discouraged. Bond servants, these are going to be people who don't even own themselves.

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These are slaves. Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye service as people pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the

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Lord. And whatever you do, work heartily as for the

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Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord, you will receive the inheritance as your reward.

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You are serving the Lord Christ. So the apostle

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Paul, if he was sitting in line behind Isaiah Saldivar waiting for the great white throne judgment, and Paul asked

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Isaiah Saldivar, so what did you do for Christ? Isaiah should immediately go to this passage and say,

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I was a good husband. I was a good father. I was a good employee.

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You see what he's not talking about that. He's talking about you having to go out and do something spectacular.

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But by teaching what he's teaching, he is teaching Christians to overlook and despise the good works that we are created in Christ Jesus to do.

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So here's my next text, Ephesians chapter two, Ephesians chapter two, and watch what the apostle

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Paul says in verses one through 10. And I would know it starts off with bad stuff.

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You were born dead in trespasses and sins. And then at the very end of it, he talks about how we are

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God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus. So these two thoughts kind of bookend themselves, but here's what it says.

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You were dead in the trespasses and the sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind.

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And we were by nature, children of wrath like the rest of mankind, but, but God being rich in mercy because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, he has made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved.

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And he has raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

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So that in the coming ages, he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

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And then here's the part where everybody knows these passages of this passage, these verses, because they're memorized by a lot of Christians around the world for by grace, you have been saved through faith.

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This is not your own doing. It is the gift of God. It is not the result of works so that no one may boast for we are

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God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which

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God prepared that beforehand that we should walk in them. So here's the idea.

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Christians are saved by grace through faith apart from works.

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You cannot merit salvation. You cannot earn salvation either in full or in part.

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It is a gift of God given purely on account of Christ.

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He is the one who has merited your salvation. But Christians are called are created in Christ Jesus to do good works.

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So note having been saved by grace through faith, not by anything that we've done, we are created in Christ Jesus for good works.

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And God is the one who's prepared them beforehand that we should walk in them. The question then is this, what is a good work?

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What is it that God wants you to do? And the answer, just like in Colossians three and four, the answer is found in like in Ephesians five, be imitators of God as beloved children.

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That's where it starts with. And then Paul reiterates in Ephesians five, wives submit to your own husbands.

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Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church. Children obey your parents.

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The idea is this, is we do our good works in the ordinary things that we are called to do in our vocations.

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I am a husband. I am a father. I'm an employee. I'm a pastor.

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And so we do our good works there. So you moms out there, you don't have to go and slay and take territory for Christ.

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What you need to do is to feed your children, be a good wife, clothe your children, help them with the homework.

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In other words, when we look at the way scripture defines the good works that we're called to do, and Colossians says, in Colossians, it says that when we are doing these things, we are serving

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Christ, that these are the good works that we're called to do. And so we know that they're pleasing to God and that they are enough.

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So when you change a diaper, that's a good work. When you feed your children, that's a good work.

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When you take your children to school, having clothed them and made sure they've been showered and bathed and are presentable in public, that's a good work.

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When they come home from school and they need help with the homework, helping them with the homework, that's a good work.

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Teaching them to do their chores, to clean their room, to wash the dishes, that's a good work.

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And then when a child obeys their parents and takes out the trash or does the dishes or helps with the laundry, that's a good work.

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Cleaning your room is a good work. The fellow who is providing for his family, who jumps into his commuter car, he probably can't afford a special car, so maybe he has like a

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Toyota Corolla or a Kia or something like that, and he commutes and fights the traffic, goes to the office, puts in the hours, comes back late at night, and by his labors is then able to pay for the bills, to pay for his to be clothed, to pay for them to have a roof over their head and for the food on the table, that's a good work.

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Being a good employee, and even if you have a terrible boss, and being a good employee and knowing that you serve

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Christ, not your boss, that's a good work. So what Isaiah Saldivar here is doing is teaching something very dangerous, and that is that by this video that he put out, he's teaching

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Christians to despise the actual good works that we are called to, and then putting their salvation into question.

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Well, did I even do enough for God, and I'm probably not even saved?

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This is creating salvation by works. Again, so having looked at these passages, I want you to again hear what he said and just see how far off he is.

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Listen again. Imagine getting online for judgment day. There will be a great line, and you're sitting behind the apostle

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Paul. Like, oh, it's a great white throat judgment. What's your name? I'm Paul. Like, like Paul?

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Like the guy in the Bible? Oh yeah, I'm Paul, you know? Shipwrecked five times, stoned three times, you know, beaten, sick, dead.

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Oh yeah, all that. That's me. Who are you? Oh, I'm Isaiah. Oh, what did you do for? I mean, I went to church on Sunday.

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Paul's like, but I think he said you're a Christian. And I would note, gathering weekly to hear the word of the

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Lord and to praise Christ in church, that is also a good work, okay?

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And if that, and he's making it sound like this is this false dichotomy. You know, ordinary

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Christians, they just do ordinary things. They go to church every Sunday. They, you know, they commute every week to work.

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They, you know, take their kids to baseball and all this kind of stuff. They're not doing enough. Baloney, absolute malarkey.

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This is so dangerous and devastating to people's faith because when they hear this, they think, I'm not doing enough for Jesus.

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You can never do enough for Jesus. Christ has saved you completely by what he's done for you.

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And he's called you to good works. And those good works are defined by the Bible as the ordinary things you do as husband, wife, father, mother, child, employee.

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That's the good works that we're called to do. What is that? What do you mean you went to church on Sunday? Well, I went, but yeah, but what'd you do for God?

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Well, I gave like 3%. I mean, I don't know. I just went. Paul's like, well, what'd you do there?

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Well, we sing three fast songs, two slow songs, offering, you know, 20 minute message. And then there's this thing called an altar call.

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I didn't really go, so I don't know much about it, but you know, people would go forward and then God would touch them and tell me some stories, the new covenant, the pouring out.

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I mean, what did you do? And you're like, I don't have any stories, Paul, because I'm not really a

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Christian. I have tons of stories, tons of stories, like when my kids were sick, like staying up all night, cleaning out vomit buckets, you know, because they were throwing up and standing vigil, taking them to the hospital, helping them with homework, meeting their needs.

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I have tons of stories. And the reason why I have tons of stories is because Ephesians 5 and Colossians 3 makes it clear.

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These are the good works were created in Christ Jesus to do again. Let me remind you, it says in Colossians 3, you are serving the

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Lord Christ. When, when wives submit to their husbands, when husbands love their wives, when children obey their parents, when bond servants obey their masters, you are serving the

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Lord Christ. So I don't know how Isaiah is going to get out of this one because he's completely stepped in it.

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I mean, he's made such a mess of things. And the fact that this, this particular video of his has 38 ,000 likes and has been viewed almost half a million times shows just how dangerous this fellow is because there's a bunch of people sitting there going, amen,

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Isaiah, amen. I mean, we need to be doing more for Jesus. And, and I, and if, if you're not doing the, the, these other, these things that he's kind of hinting at that you're not even a

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Christian, but the Bible begs to differ. And the very apostle Paul that he is invoking here would legitimately rebuke this fellow and call him the heretic that he is, because that's exactly what he is.

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So we don't have to worry about the day of judgment. And let me do this next part.

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I'm going to teach you what the Bible teaches regarding the day of judgment and how the details of it work and why

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Christians have nothing. And I mean, absolutely nothing to fear on the day of judgment, but instead have nothing but something joyful to look forward to.

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It's absolutely wonderful what the scripture teaches regarding the state of Christians and what will happen to them on the day of judgment.

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So let's, let's do this. I'll pull my Bible back up and I have a whole bunch of things here.

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By the way, second, kind of another text here. In John chapter six, John chapter six,

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Jesus is asked questions in verse 28. Some people came up to him and said, what must we be doing to do the works of God?

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What must we do to be doing the works of God? Jesus answered, this is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.

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That's, that's the work of God to believe in the one whom he has sent. Now here's, here's our first text in this idea regarding judgment.

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I want you to consider what Christ says here. In John chapter five, starting at verse 19, Jesus says these words, truly, truly,

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I say to you, the son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the father doing.

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For whatever the father does, that the son does likewise. For the father loves the son and shows him all that he himself is doing.

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In greater works than these, he will show them so that you may marvel. For as the father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the son gives life to whom he will.

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For the father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the son, so that all may honor the son just as they honor the father.

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Whoever does not honor the son does not honor the father who sent him. And then here are the words I want you to kind of focus in on.

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Truly, truly, Jesus says, amen, amen. I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life.

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He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

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So listen to the words of Christ, okay? If you believe in him and the father who sent him, you have already have eternal life and you do not come into judgment, flat out, but you have already passed from death to life.

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Now I'm just going to go with Jesus on this. That being the case, if I do not come into judgment, will there be anything for Christians to fear at the great white throne judgment?

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Answer, no, because I'm not going to come into judgment. Jesus isn't going to look at the scroll and go, oh, well, you know, you didn't do enough,

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Rose, bro. You know, I see that you, you know, I'll give you an A for effort, but your efforts didn't, you know, you didn't do enough things.

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Nope. Scripture says the one who believes has eternal life and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

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The text continues, truly, truly, I say to you an hour is coming and is now here when the dead will hear the voice of the son of God and those who hear will live.

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This is talking about those who hear the gospel, right? For as the father has life in himself, he has granted the son to also have life in himself and he's, and he has given him authority to execute judgment because he is the son of man.

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So do not marvel at this for an hour is coming, and this is the next part of it, when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and they will come out, those who've done good to the resurrection of life and those who've done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

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But here's the thing, okay? Jesus says the good will go to the resurrection of life and the evil will go to the resurrection of the judgment.

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But by saying this, he's not contradicting what he just said a few sentences earlier. The one who believes does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

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So how then is it possible? Because every human being on planet earth has done evil.

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None of us have done perfect good. The answer is found in the book of Colossians chapter two.

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And here's what Paul says, see to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world and not according to Christ.

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For in Christ, the whole fullness of the deity dwells bodily. And you have been filled in him who is the head of all rule and authority.

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In him, you are also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands by putting off the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with him in baptism in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God who raised him from the dead.

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And you who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh,

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God has made you alive together with him, Christ. And watch this, having forgiven us all, not some, all of our trespasses.

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Well, how has he forgiven us all of our trespasses? And here's where the details matter. Answer, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands, this he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

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So, here's the way to think about it. The record of debt, if you don't know what that is, when it talks about in scripture, the day of judgment and books being opened, everybody knows this.

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I don't know if they know it just intuitively. A lot of people seem to know it intuitively, but the scriptures reveal this very clearly, that when the books are opened, the books record everything that you have done, everything good and bad.

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But here's the thing, everybody who is a Christian, the section of the books that record all the sins that you have committed, that's called the record of debt.

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In your book, there is a record of debt, but watch what it says. God has canceled the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands.

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God has set this aside and nailed it to the cross. So, for every Christian, the entire record of all the sin that you've ever committed and ever will commit, it's all your sins.

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The entire record has been torn out of your book and it has been nailed to the cross.

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That's what this text says. Again, listen to this. God has made us alive together with Christ, having forgiven us all of our trespasses by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with his legal demands.

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This he has set aside and he has nailed it to the cross. So, on the day of judgment, the only thing that Jesus will see in the books of Christians are their good works.

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The wives, how they love their husbands. The husbands, how they love their wives. The children, how they obeyed their parents.

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You get the idea here. The only thing that Jesus will see on the day of judgment in your book are all of your good works because the entire record of debt has been nailed to the cross.

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So, Jesus can then clearly say, and this fits perfectly with what he said, the one who believes has eternal life.

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He does not come into judgment, has passed from death to life. And so, at the resurrection of the dead, when everybody's raised to life, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, because in God's eyes,

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Christians have only done good. All of their sins are bled and died for by Christ and the entire record of debt has been nailed to the cross.

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Those who die in sin and unbelief, they will have to pay for all the evil that they've done and the good that they have done cannot even come close to undoing the evil that they've done.

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So, for a Christian, we have nothing to fear on the day of judgment. And this is why Christ says, you do not come into judgment, but you've already passed from death to life.

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So, when we read in Revelation chapter 20, then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it.

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From his presence, earth and sky fled away and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne and books were opened.

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Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.

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And the sea gave up the dead who were in it. Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each of them according to what they had done.

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Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

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When you become a Christian and you're brought from death to life, regenerated by the powerful working of God, the

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Holy Spirit, and made new in Christ, indwelt by the Holy Spirit, by the means of grace, you have your name written in the book of life.

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And all of the evil that you've done in the record of debt has been canceled and nailed to the cross.

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So for a Christian on the day of judgment, God only sees your good works and sees your name written in the

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Lamb's book of life. That being the case, we have nothing, nothing to fear, absolutely nothing to fear on the day of judgment, whatsoever.

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If Isaiah Saldivar is right, then Jesus is wrong. And Jesus lied when he said, the one who believes has eternal life and doesn't come into judgment, but has already passed from death to life.

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So that being the case, you can see just how awful this is. This video of his, where he calls into question our salvation, because we only went to church on Sunday.

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I don't know a Christian who the only thing that they ever did was just go to church on Sunday.

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I would note that the thief on the cross, the only thing he did was believe in Jesus.

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And he was with Christ in paradise that day. He didn't even get to go to church on Sunday because at all.

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Okay. Cause he was, he was a Christian for all of a few hours before he died rightfully for his sins.

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But Christ said today you'll be with me in paradise because he believed in Jesus. So here again, with all of this in mind, watch this again, because you can see what he's doing.

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This, I'm going to be blunt. Isaiah Saldivar, the demon slayer is teaching a doctrine of demons here.

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Absolutely teaching a doctrine of demons because he's making it look like Christians are saved by their works and Christians who just go to church, that's somehow not enough.

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Nothing is enough, sir. We're not saved by our works. We're saved by what Christ has done. So let me play it one more time just to make the point.

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And then we'll take a look at what he teaches regarding the judgment day. Imagine getting online for judgment day.

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There will be a great line and you're sitting behind the apostle Paul. Like, Oh, it's a great white throat judgment.

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What's your name? I'm Paul, like, like Paul, like the guy in the Bible. Oh yeah. I'm Paul, you know, shipwrecked five times, stone three times, you know, beaten sick, dead.

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Oh yeah. All that. That's me. What, who are you? Oh, I'm Isaiah. Oh, what, what did you do for, I mean, uh,

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I went to church on Sunday. Paul's like, but I think you said you're a Christian. What does that, what do you mean you went to church on Sunday?

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Well, I went, but yeah, but what'd you do for God? Well, I gave like 3%. I mean,

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I don't know. I just went. Paul's like, well, what'd you do there? Well, we sing three fast songs, two slow songs offering, you know, 20 minute message.

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And then there's this thing called an altar call. I didn't really go, so I don't know much about it, but you know, people would go forward and then

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God would touch them and tell me some stories, the new covenant, the poor yellow. I mean, what did you do? And you're like,

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I don't have any stories, Paul, because I'm not really a Christian. Just absolutely awful.

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Just, this is satanic. There is no other words for it. This is satanic and demonic.

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I would remind him of what the apostle Paul wrote in Galatians. Galatians chapter one, writing to the church of Galatia, who was believing in salvation by works because of the

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Judaizers. Paul says in Galatians one, I'm astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel.

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Not that there is another, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached, let him be anathema.

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Anathema in Greek means damned. Let him be damned. As I've said before, so I say again, if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be damned.

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This video of Isaiah Saldivar is damnable. And the people who are believing it, they're believing a false gospel, a gospel of works rather than grace and believing that they've got enough.

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Oh, I don't, I haven't done enough. All I've ever done is gone to church. No bro, brah, this is just cap.

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I mean, it's complete. What this, this short of his is complete skibbidy

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Ohio. This is just nonsense. And, and the fact is, is that Christ has bled and died for our sins and our good works are done as husband, wife, son, daughter, employer, employee, mother, father.

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These are where we do our good works folks. And the scripture is so clear on this.

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So what else does Isaiah teach regarding the judgment day? Well, he put, he put a video out two weeks ago called some

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Christians will be shocked on the judgment day. And all this video proves is that this man doesn't know how to exegete and, you know, he's going to go to the parable of the, of the sheep and the goats, and he's going to miss the big point that Jesus is making and kind of like double, triple down on this idea that, you know, we better get busy if we want to be saved.

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Well, let's take a listen to what he's saying here. And then we'll debunk this from, from scripture. She likes sleeping on my feet while I'm doing this.

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We're all going to appear before the judgment seat of Christ. Every single person watching this video, you are going to stand before God on judgment day.

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It's a glorious and terrifying thing to think about because we're all going to take account for the life that we lived.

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And if you're not covered under the blood of Jesus, if you're not in the righteousness of Christ, you are going to be judged.

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So. So he has some idea that Christians are not judged by their works, but by that we're clothed in the righteousness of Christ.

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He has some idea of this. You'd think that that might have an impact on how he's going to read this passage.

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It actually tells us some of the things Jesus is going to say to us on the final judgment on that great final judgment.

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And this is found in Matthew 25, 31. Some of you might not know this is a Bible. So you can get them like paper, not just always virtual.

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You can actually get them paper here. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I, back in the day, that's the only kind we had.

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Dad jokes. Um, but I want to show you Matthew 25 verse 31. And this might shock you right here. Look at what

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Jesus says. These are all words in red. So everything we're covering today is words in red says, but when the son of man comes in all his glory and the angels with him, he'll sit upon his throne.

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That's verse 31, right? 32. All of the nations look at this will be gathered in his presence.

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And he'll separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheet from the goats. So on that great final judgment, everybody's going to get separated.

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I know we're like, this person's false. This person's fake. Doesn't matter what you think or what you say. There's coming a day where God is going to separate the sheeps from the goats, where we will find who's saved and who's not saved.

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I agree that so far. So good. Cause how many of you know, like everybody in America is Christian.

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Every celebrity I'm a Christian. I'm a believer yet. There's no fruit in so many people's lives, no evidence in so many people's lives, but there's coming a day where Jesus is going to filter out who's who.

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And look what it says here. Verse 33. He will place the sheep at his right hand and the goats at his left hand.

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I don't know about you, but I do not want to be on the left hand of Jesus. When I, when you're getting separated, you don't want to be thinking, am

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I a sheep or am I a goat? We need to have confidence. Now we need to have a relationship. Now we need to walk in the faith now so that we're not.

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Okay. Let me, let me help him out a little bit here. Cause it's so hard for me to watch this guy. Cause he clearly doesn't know how to exegete.

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So our text is Matthew 25. He's, he's read it so far so good, but I got to point out like one of the big things he's missing here.

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Okay. So when the son of man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

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Before him will be gathered all the nations. He will separate the people from what, from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

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He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on the left. Stop here for a second.

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The judgment has already taken place. You are judged by what you are.

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You are either a sheep or you are a goat. You are either a Christian or you are not a

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Christian. The judgment has already occurred by what you are.

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So, and he just kind of misses this. Well, I don't know about you. I don't want to be on the left. The only people are going to be on the left are the people who are not

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Christians. The people who do not trust in Christ for the forgiveness of their sins or who believe that they're saved by their works.

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Cause that's the, that's the religion of the world taught by Satan. Right? So you'll, you'll note here, you're already judged by what you are.

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So let's continue for a second here. Cause I want to, I want you to see this, how this plays out. Then the king will say to those on his right, come you who are blessed by my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the, from the foundation of the world.

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And then he says this, I was hungry and you gave me food. I was thirsty and you gave me drink.

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I was a stranger and you welcomed me. I was naked and you clothed me. I was sick and you visited me.

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I was in prison and you came to me. And then the righteous note, they are described as righteous.

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How are they righteous? They're clothed in the righteousness of Christ. All Christians are.

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Okay. They will answer him saying, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or thirsty and give you drink?

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And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you or naked and clothed you? And, and when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?

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And the king will answer them. Truly, I say to you and watch the details matter here. As you did it to the least of these, my brothers, you did it to me.

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Now, real quick, this isn't talking about Jesus here is not talking about acts of mercy done for people who are poor because he adds the words, the least of these, my brothers.

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Now we have to ask the question, who are Jesus's brothers?

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Answer in Matthew chapter 10, same gospel. Jesus answers that question very clearly.

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Here we go. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever, oh, hang on a second here.

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Too much context. Verse 46, while Jesus was speaking to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood outside asking to speak to Jesus.

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But he replied to the man who told him, who is my mother? And who are, who are my brothers?

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Jesus asked that question. And so stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, here are my mother and my brothers.

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Whoever does the will of my father in heaven is my brother, my sister, and my mother. Well, there goes the supremacy of the

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Virgin Mary. Ah, okay. So Jesus in Matthew defines who are his brothers.

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So when Jesus says, as you did it to the least of these, my brothers, you did it to me.

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So Matthew 25, isn't about whether or not you made sandwiches for the poor or you fed, you fed people at the homeless shelter on Thanksgiving with, you know, in a soup kitchen.

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All of those are good works. Absolutely good works. But that's not what Christ is pointing to here.

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As you did it to the least of these, my brothers, the question is this, what did you do with the men who

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I sent with the gospel to proclaim repentance and the forgiveness of sins in my name?

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You know, my disciples, what did you do with them? Well, you'll note the righteous, when they hear the gospel, what do they do with Jesus' disciples?

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They care for them. If they are beaten, they put, you know, band -aids on their wounds and take care of them.

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If they are hungry, they feed them. If they're stripped naked, they clothe them. If they are thrown in prison as a disciple of Jesus Christ, they go and visit them.

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This is about the gospel, not about acts of mercy. And Christians do what

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Christians do because they're Christians. Okay? It's actually kind of that simple.

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I always point this out. Since we're judged by what we are, sheep do sheepy things because they're sheep.

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Goats do goatee things because they're goats. And if you mess it up, that's bad.

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All right? You don't want to do that. So the idea here is that Christ says, as you did it to the least of these, my brothers, what is your attitude towards the gospel and the men who preach it?

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That's the point he's making. Then he will say to those on his left, depart from me. You cursed into the eternal fire, prepare for the devil and his angels.

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For I was hungry and you gave me no food. How do unbelievers treat those who bring the good news to them?

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With contempt. Oftentimes beating them, persecuting them, or just flat out ignoring them, thinking they're wing net wacker doodles.

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Right? Depart from me, you cursed into the eternal fire, prepare for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry, you gave me no food.

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I was thirsty, you gave me no drink. I was a stranger and you did not welcome me naked and you didn't clothe me in sick and in prison and you didn't visit me.

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And then they will also answer, well, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty and did not minister to you?

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Then he will answer them. Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to the least of these. Who's Jesus pointing to?

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The sheep. You did not do it to the least of these, which the sheep are his disciples.

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You didn't do it to me. And these will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

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So Isaiah here, he doesn't know how to exegete this text. He's legitimately fumbling his way through it.

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And the conclusions he's going to come to are not based on sound exegesis.

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He clearly hasn't studied and showed himself approved as a workman who need not blush with embarrassment, who can rightly divide the word of truth.

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He doesn't know how to. Scared or scurrying on judgment day. Verse 34, it literally says,

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I'm about to tell you, well, Jesus tells us, I'm going to share it with you, what he's going to say to some people on judgment day.

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Then the king will say to those on his right, come you who are blessed by my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world.

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So from the creation of the world, there's a kingdom that's been prepared for you. And then this is what he says, verse 35.

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Here's why. For I was hungry and you fed me. I was thirsty and you gave me a drink.

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Pay attention here. I was a stranger and you invited me into your home. I was naked and you gave me clothing.

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I was sick and you cared for me. I was in prison and you visited me. This is Jesus telling people on the final judgment.

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And look at this, verse 37. Then the righteous will reply, you missed the part about my brothers.

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He read it, but it just, it didn't register. Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you?

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When did we ever see you thirsty and gave you a drink? When were you a stranger and we showed you hospitality?

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When were you naked and we gave you clothing? When did we ever see you sick or in prison and visit you? Now these are the people that he's saying did this to him.

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He's like, you visited me, you fed me, you gave me water. This is Jesus. And this is the final judgment.

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So this is like end of revelation, verse 40. And the king will say,

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I tell you the truth. When you did it to one of the least of these brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me.

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Okay. Brothers and sisters. There it is. You said it. Okay. What's it mean? What's it mean to be a brother of Christ?

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Think about that. Jesus says when you've helped the least of these, the least of these brothers and sisters, the least

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Christians, the poor, the least Christians, the orphan, doesn't the Bible say,

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I believe in James, that true and unadulterated religion is taken after the orphan, the widow guys.

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Right, right. That's what Christians do for each other. By the way, our religion, our Christianity is not just about saying we're

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Christian. Like, are we actually doing anything? Are we helping people? What does it matter? The Bible says, if you say you love people and then you see your brother in need and you don't help him.

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Right. Yes. What does it matter? The Bible says, if you say you love people, but you don't show it by your actions.

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So on judgment. Right. James's point in his epistle is, is that there were these antinomians claiming that they have faith, they don't do any good works.

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Faith without works is dead. Okay. The question is, what is a good work?

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That's defined by scripture. And it's done as husband, wife, father, mother, employee, slave, master.

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And you get the idea here. It's done in this way, but he's so close, but he can't make the connection.

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Jesus is going to say and separate these people and say, here's why I'm putting you in my father's kingdom and why you're on the right.

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No, no, Jesus is not saying the reason per se, because they did things.

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They were separated by what they were sheep on the right goats on the left.

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They're separated by what they are. And then Jesus is rewarding the sheep, but the goats, again, the question comes down to what did you do with the least of these

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Jesus's brothers, his disciples, the ones who bring us the gospel. He mad at me.

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This is what Jesus says, because you help the poor. And when you were doing it to the poor, you were doing it to me.

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Think no, when you were doing it to Jesus's brothers, who were poor, you were doing it to him about that.

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He was this close. It was just this close. When you help that Christian widow at the church, you were doing it to Jesus.

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When you visit that brother in prison, you were doing. That's true. When you visit a Christian brother in prison, you're visiting

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Jesus for sure. Jesus. When you visit that person that was sick at the hospital, you were doing it to Jesus. When you visit a sick

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Christian brother in the hospital, you are visiting Jesus. Jesus literally looks at it as if you're helping people yet.

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Don't we pass by Jesus every day? This isn't talking about the general poor.

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This is talking about Christian brothers. The least of these, my brothers.

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Don't we walk right past the homeless guy, drive right past the person in need, drive right past the person that's hurting, that needs healing, that needs deliverance, that needs prayer.

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We walk. This isn't about helping the general homeless. I've done some work with the homeless and I can tell you many people who are homeless, they're homeless because they are addicted to very strong drugs and they're not

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Christians. Not when they're down and out. Far from it. Many of them aren't.

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Many of them hear the gospel for the first time in shelters that are set up to reach out for those people, to reach out to them.

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But the unbelieving guy on skid row, the homeless guy passed out drunk on the sidewalk.

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If he's not a Christian, he's not a brother. That's not what Christ was pointing to in this case. Now it's a good work to help somebody who's down and out like that.

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Absolutely. But that's not the point of Matthew 25. Right past them and Jesus goes, you pass me by all the time.

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And on judgment day, Jesus identifies himself in those people. I don't know if you, this is mind -blowing to me.

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Then the king will turn to the left. What is mind -blowing is that you are not capable of exegeting and yet you put yourself forward as a teacher in Christ's church.

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You shouldn't. You need to sit down. You need to go to seminary. You need to learn the biblical languages and you need to take classes on proper exegesis and how that works because you clearly have no clue how it's done.

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And say away with you cursed ones into eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.

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Verse 42. Here's why he's throwing him in hell. This is what he says. For I was hungry and you didn't feed me.

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I was thirsty and you didn't give me a drink. I was a stranger you didn't invite me in. I was naked you didn't give me clothing. I was sick and you didn't visit me. Imagine Jesus saying that to you on judgment day.

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He won't. He will not say that to any Christian on judgment day.

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Not at all. Again, the reason why Christians do good works is because they're

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Christians. And again, Jesus makes it very clear. Truly, truly,

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I say to you. This is John 5. Whoever hears my words and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment but has passed from death to life.

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It's just that simple. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ. No Christian has anything to fear on judgment day.

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And so here he by incorrectly distinguishing between the law and the gospel and how we are saved and not even paying attention to understand how to rightly exegete

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Matthew 25, Isaiah Saldivar is steering into salvation by works. Have you served in enough soup kitchens?

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Have you given food to enough homeless people? Have you done all that? Have you done enough yet?

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Because you you're passing Jesus by every time you pass a homeless person. That's not what

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Matthew 25 teaches. Like or me. I'm just saying. And you didn't visit.

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And then they were verse 44. They will reply, Lord. And they're calling him Lord. I want you to think about this.

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These are not just like these unbelievers that are going thrown in the hellfire that are just. Yes, they are.

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If they're goats, they're unbelievers. Ha! Just because they called him

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Lord. Remember, scripture is clear in both the Old and the New Testament. Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is

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Lord to the glory of God the Father. That includes unbelievers and believers.

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For you to sit there and say, well, they called him Lord. So this means that these are Christians. Again, it says every knee will bow.

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In fact, let me just pull up the text here. Do I seem like I'm upset? I'm upset because I'm legitimately exercised at this point.

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This man is leading people to hell. That's just all there is to it. Here's what it says in Philippians chapter two.

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Are you ready? Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who though he was by nature.

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And Morphe here is probably better translated by nature, God. He did not count equality with God, a thing to be grasped.

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He emptied himself by taking on the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men and being found in human form.

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He humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore, God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name so that the name of Jesus, every knee that includes believers and unbelievers on the day of judgment should bow in heaven on earth and under the earth.

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And every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God, the father.

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That being the case, his point here is not true. Goats are not

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Christians on the day of judgment. They will confess that Jesus is

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Lord, not because they were Christians in this life, but because prophecy of scripture from the old

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Testament, then restated in the new says that every knee will confess that he is Lord. So here we go again.

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Watch this. Verse 44, they will reply, Lord. And they're calling him Lord. I want you to think about this.

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These are not just like these unbelievers that are going thrown in a hellfire that are just guys. This is scary.

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They reply, the goats, the ones that aren't saved that are going into fire, the hellfire prepared for the devil and his angels.

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They will reply, Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not help you?

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And he will answer. I tell you the truth. When you refuse to help the least of my brothers of these, my brothers and sisters.

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You at least recognize that the, the, the ones that the goats refuse to help are Christ's brothers.

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You know, the disciples who bring the good news is you are refusing to help me guys.

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Jesus says, when you refuse to help brothers and sisters, those that are hurting those that are needy, those that are desperate, those are two different groups that you've lumped into one group.

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You smoosh them together. They don't belong smooshed together. He's like, dude, you're actually, well, he didn't say, dude,

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I did, but he's like, you're actually refusing me. You're actually not helping me. That should scare us when we refuse to help the needy.

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He can't exegete. And by doing what he's doing, he is taking away any certainty of salvation that any of people in his audience might've had.

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Oh no. How many sandwiches do I need to make Isaiah and give to the homeless before I can have certainty that I'm saved?

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How many homeless people do I need to clothe? How many people do I need to go? How many prisoners do I need to visit before I can have confidence that I'm saved?

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See, when you start putting it that way, you recognize there's something screwy with his exegesis here.

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Sick, the prisoner, the stranger, the one that's naked, that's in need of clothing and hunger. The disciples of Jesus, the brothers of Christ, the ones who bring the good news of Christ and him crucified for our sins.

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We overlook them. And then Jesus says, but you've refused to help me. And verse 46, final verse, we're going to go over and they will go away and do eternal punishment.

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But the righteous will go into eternal life. Now I know everyone. Let me, let me help him out a little here.

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Who will go to eternal life? He's right by the way, because he read it. Let's take a look at it real quick.

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All right. Truly I say to you, okay. And these, the righteous will go to eternal, but the righteous will go into eternal life.

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How does one become righteous? Because you'll note that you sin every single day of your life.

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How on earth do you become righteous? Paul answers that Ephesians two, sorry,

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Philippians chapter three. Paul says, he says, look out for the dogs. Look out for the evildoers.

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Those mutilate the flesh. This is the circumcision crowd to teach the salvation by works. We are the circumcision who worship by the spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus.

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And we put no confidence in the flesh, though I myself have reason for confidence in the flesh. If anyone else thinks he has reason for confidence in the flesh, well,

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I have more. I was circumcised on the eighth day of the people of Israel of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the

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Hebrews as to the law, as to the law of Pharisee, as to zeal, a persecutor of the church, as to righteousness under the law, blameless.

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But whatever gain I had, I counted as a loss for the sake of Christ. Indeed, I count everything as a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing

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Christ Jesus, my Lord. For his sake, I've suffered the loss of all things. And I count them, he counts all of his good works as rubbish.

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Skubalon is the word, which is probably better translated as dog poop, but I count them as rubbish in order that I might gain

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Christ and watch these words and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness that is from God that depends on faith.

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So when Jesus says the righteous will go into eternal life, the righteous are the ones who are clothed in his righteousness by grace through faith apart from works, right?

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So he just doesn't, he can't, he smooshed everything together and now we've got salvation by works.

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Have you fed enough poor people? Oh, how many do I need to feed in order to be saved, Isaiah?

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It's out there like extreme grace, like just believe brother, just pray the sinner's prayer and you're going to be saved. Where's that in here?

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Jesus is like, it's there, it's there, Isaiah, my brothers, disciples, it's there,

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Isaiah, with the cross references, the righteous will go to eternal life. Hmm. Who are they?

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Other texts bear that out. You know, scripture interprets scripture, sir. Like, no, you didn't help me.

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You didn't help the poor. You didn't do anything. Like, this is just so crazy that we don't help people, don't feed the poor, don't heal the sick, don't cast out demons.

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We don't do anything. And we don't cast out, he had to throw in his own demon slayer nonsense into this.

01:09:42

What a complete mess. Now, real bit before I kind of wrap things up here, just a quick note.

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This episode of Fighting for the Faith is sponsored by what I consider to be the premier

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Issues Etc. doesn't do that. Issues Etc. knows the proper distinction of law and gospel, and they know how to teach the truth.

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They've studied and showed themselves approved. So, and I would even note that if you're looking for, like, just a place to learn the basics of Christianity in a

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I'm saying. People need to leave this guy and go to where they're getting sound doctrine, and Issues Etc.

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is the perfect cure for those who are under the disease of Isaiah Saldivar's false teaching, because that's what it is.

01:11:09

It's an absolute disease. The guy is not capable of rightly handling a biblical text, and he's teaching, whether he's trying to or not, salvation by works.

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And the folks at Issues Etc. know full well that our salvation is completely won by the meritorious life, death, resurrection of Jesus for us.

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And so, salvation is a gift, not something that we earn. And the guys they have on the exegete biblical text on Issues Etc.,

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they know what they're doing. Isaiah clearly doesn't. So, brothers and sisters, you know, there's a lot of things

01:11:46

I need to do here. First of all, I saw that there was a super chat that came in, and I want to thank Shelley for the super chat.

01:11:52

I appreciate that, and thank you for that. Let's see here. I wonder if the...

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Okay. Someone asked the question, if you believe in once saved, always saved. No, I don't.

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Okay. And so, I believe that you can absolutely apostatize out of Christianity, and I'll show you the biblical text for this.

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Okay. So, the question is, what do you believe and why do you believe it?

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So, if we were to go to like a clear passage on this, I'll show you two passages that I think argue against the idea of once saved, always saved.

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That's going to be Galatians chapter 5. And in response to the

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Judaizers, Paul says this, starting in verse 1, it is for freedom that Christ has set us free, so stand firm then and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

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Salvation by works is a yoke of slavery, for sure. Look, he says, I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision,

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Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.

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And then watch verse 4, you are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law, and you have fallen away from grace.

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So, that to me is one of the clearest passages that teach that Christians can apostatize.

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And, you know, people who at one point trusted Christ for their salvation, now trusting in themselves in their works,

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Paul says that they have been, that they have fallen away from Christ and from grace, and they have been severed from Christ.

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I consider that to be a definitive text. But there's another one, and that's with Christ himself.

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If we were to go to Matthew chapter 13. In Matthew chapter 13, Jesus tells a very familiar parable, and I want you to look at his interpretation of it.

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He says, a sower went out to sow, and as he sowed, some seeds fell along the path. The birds came and devoured them.

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Other seeds fell on rocky ground where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up since they had no depth of soil.

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But when the sun rose, they were scorched, and since they had no root, they withered away. Other seeds fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked them.

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Other seeds fell on good soil and produced grain, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. He who has ears to hear let him hear.

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So, Jesus then gives the explanation of the parable, and in the explanation, you have to see what's going on here.

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Here, then, the parable of the sower, when anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart.

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This is what was sown along the path. As for what was sown on the rocky ground, pay attention to these details.

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This is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy, yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately he falls away.

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And so, Christ is describing somebody who is a Christian. They attend church. They hear the word. They receive it with joy.

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Persecution comes up, and they immediately fall away. So, Christ, I don't believe, teaches this once saved, always saved gospel at all.

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And so, this is why, then, as a confessional Lutheran, we believe that false doctrine, especially heresies, are so dangerous because they can cause somebody to have their faith shipwrecked.

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In fact, if I were to look for the word shipwreck, and I'm going to do a search in the

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New Testament for it, let me see. Let's see. Watch this.

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Even the Apostle Paul says this. In 1 Timothy chapter 1 verse 18, it says, this charge

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I entrust to you, Timothy, my child, in accordance with the prophecies previously made about you, that by them you may wage the good warfare.

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Holding faith and a good conscience, by rejecting this, some have made shipwreck of their faith, among whom are

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Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

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They were excommunicated. And so, you'll note that heretics can shipwreck somebody's faith, and that's a devastating, like, eternal impact.

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So, Christians, you know, confessional Lutherans do not believe in once saved, always saved.

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And so, Matthew 13, Galatians 5, and even 1

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Timothy 1 here, kind of bear that out as to what we believe, so, and why I think that it's possible for somebody to apostatize.

01:16:38

So, all right. Let's see here. Super chat from Daniel Chapman. Thank you, sir.

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Who else demands Fighting for the Faith Q &A live stream? Let's go. They're coming, Daniel.

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And the next one won't be as embarrassing with all the technical issues. Okay. And then, let's see here.

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Living the mac and cheese life. Thank you for the super chat, mac and cheese life. We need a sneeze guard on the

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Isaiah salad bar. Yes, we do. Yeah, to keep us from catching heresy from that thing.

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And then EYYY, EYYY, thanks for being the first person to convince me that the gospel was for me, too.

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Sorry, that sounds more trite than it was. Listen, that doesn't sound trite at all. I spent a large portion of my childhood in the

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Nazarene church and had absolutely no confidence that I was saved, and I wasn't hearing the gospel preached to me as a

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Christian. And I legitimately believed at some point that I was saved because I didn't dance, drink, smoke, or chew or date girls who do.

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And it was just complete bondage. And not only that, it was delusional bondage. When I was hearing the gospel for the first time as a

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Christian, I legitimately was suspicious of it. I couldn't believe that I could hear the gospel as a

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Christian and believe that Christ has died for my sins and that salvation is a gift. That was something

01:18:07

I found to be very suspicious. And it wasn't except for the hard work and patience of the late

01:18:14

Dr. Rod Rosenblatt that I finally came around to believing the truth that my salvation, anybody who's saved, it's 100 % a gift from God, and that good works absolutely follow that because good trees bear good fruit because sheep do sheepy things, not in order to be saved, but because they are saved.

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So yeah, I just want to say that. And then thanks for the super chat from Astral Kingdoms.

01:18:43

What a name. Two things. First, thank you for providing a life raft for those affected by Isaiah Saldivar.

01:18:50

Second, I am not a new ager. I promise my name came from two song titles.

01:18:56

Thank you for the explanation, Astral Kingdoms, because that completely,

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I'm thinking, do I need to send you off to Doreen Virtue? That's the first thing I was saying, thinking when I saw your name.

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And then Vida Asante, thank you for the super chat. So hopefully y 'all found this live stream to be helpful and we're going to be doing more of these in the future.

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In fact, probably by the end of October, we're going to start working into the rotation.

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Regular Q &A live chats, live streams where you guys will be able to kind of pick the topics based upon the questions coming in.

01:19:32

So I just want to let you know that there's more of this coming with a lot less of the technical problems that we have.

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So, but the best thing I can say at this point is that if you know anybody, and I mean anybody, who is under the sway of the false teaching of Isaiah Saldivar and believes that they can't possibly be saved because they're not doing enough good works, they're not feeding enough poor people, or they're only going to church, please send them the link to this video so that they can be set free and know that the scripture tells us the good works that we are created in Christ Jesus to do and that there is no such thing as a true

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Christian that doesn't have good works. Each and every one of us will have, will be rewarded by Christ for all the good works we do because the whole record of death that stood against us with every documentation of every sin that you that you committed, that has been nailed to the cross and Christ will never see your bad works.

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And so, you are rich with good works in Christ as husbands, as wives, as fathers, as mothers, as children, as employers, and employees, and soldiers, and all the different vocation that God has called you into according to the epistles of the

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New Testament. These are the good works that we do and we are serving Christ in them.

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So, we will never have to be ashamed when standing before Christ on the day of judgment because all true

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Christians are rich in good works and those good works are done in the mundane things that God has called us to do in our vocations here on earth.

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So, take heart. All true Christians are already rich in good works. Just look at the things you do on a day -to -day basis.

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These are the good works that Christ will reward you for. So, hopefully you found this helpful. If so, all the information on how you can share the video will be down below in the description.

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