Application Oriented Preaching? - [Hebrews 3:12]

Well we would all agree that life is full of questions. Everywhere you go there's questions and we tend to go to google to find answers these days. I was asking a question a couple weeks ago that i've never been asked and it was do you want to shoot a wallaby?

Have you ever been asked that question and my question back was why would i want to shoot a little tiny kangaroo wallaby and they said well they're just pests and rodents here in new zealand. So if you want to go shoot a wallaby you can.

I guess that question could be answered but there are some questions in life that seemingly can't be answered. I found a few online. Why is music so beautiful? Can you really truly answer that question?

Maybe on a funnier note do you ever notice that when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you but when you take him on a car ride he sticks his head out the window cannot be answered. Can it? If the temperature is zero outside today and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow how cold will it be?

If you cannot answer that question how can you? Can you cry underwater? Maybe you can answer that question. How important does a person have to be before they're considered assassinated instead of just murdered?

Interesting questions. But maybe for me the ultimate question that i could not answer a question i had no answer to was asked to me by sinclair ferguson the great scottish preacher back in two thousand my wife and children i grace wasn't even born.

Then we were visiting scotland and we went to saint george's tron church where sinclair was the pastor. And i was preaching here at the time the gospel according to jesus in mark. And so i said to dr ferguson after the service.

It was a sunday night service and i said dr ferguson i'm preaching through the gospel of mark. I'm talking about jesus but i'm i'm feeling this compulsion. I'm feeling this pull and this drive to give the people application to give them lists to have them do something.

I mean we like to do things and and i i feel like that's important thing for a preacher to do. And he was just listening to me and then he looked at me and he said mike is there anything wrong with showing people the glories of jesus every week.

I mean i guess i could have answered it yes but i didn't want to answer because i knew he was right. Is there any reason you just can't talk about jesus every single week you can get list of things to do in lots of places including outside the church.

But where can you go to hear about this great savior. This great savior who was born under the law and he perfectly keeps the law in our place. You go through the scanners at the airport and they've got the ones where you just walk through don't touch the sides.

You might set it off but they've got the other one which you go in like this and stand. Have you been in one of those. And they're like sir do you have anything in your pockets. And you stand there like that.

And they go empty your pockets. And what do you have. A little gum wrapper something that small and they can detect it. Can you imagine on that day when we stand before god standing before him on judgment day.

And if there's any bit of unrighteousness any tiny little slip of of a wrigley's uh... you know gum wrapper of unrighteousness we are undone. We need a complete righteousness somebody who perfectly obeyed the law.

Adam couldn't israel couldn't jesus did. And so you stand before god complete and righteous because of the work of another. And he in addition has paid for your sins. How practical is that. How relevant is that.

How relevant is with the doctrine of justification. Not only does the judge say you can go but the judge says you can come. Right. That's justification. You're not guilty. You could go. That would almost be enough it seems.

But how do we have access to the throne of grace. How can we approach god because of christ's work. It's not just go. You're not guilty but you're completely righteous based on the work of another. My question is how relevant is that.

Very very relevant. I think jesus is practical. I think god is practical. I think doctrine is practical. I could put it this way. What's the most important thing about you. Is it what you do. That's what the world thinks.

Hi. My name is mike evenroth. What's your name. The first thing they respond back to me is if they already know i'm a pastor. They say how big's your church. But if they don't know i'm a pastor. What do you do.

Because we just do and we're just practical. I say well i always have to say now i'm a bible teaching pastor. Because there are a lot of pastors that don't teach the bible. Because if you do teach the bible you work more than one hour a week.

Kind of pastor. Right. They think i get a hundred sixty seven hours off a week. What do you do. No here's the most important question about you. What do you think about jesus. Was it not tozer who said when you think of god what comes into your mind is the most important thing about you.

And in the book of hebrews if you'll turn there please. If i were those people getting this letter here's what i would want to know. How much water can i bring when they start persecuting me. Where do i run to.

Do i go north south east or west. How do i say goodbye to my other friends. I have lots of things that i want to do. And that is fine and dandy. But we won't talk about doing in hebrews until there's lots of believing.

You have to believe first in the lord jesus. What's the most important thing about you is not what you do. It's what you believe. In whom do you believe. And friends by the way it will determine than what you do.

He will give you motivation to do it will give you thankfulness so that you have the ability to do it based on union with christ. Here's the book of hebrews. Jesus is great. And don't graduate to real life issues.

Once you figure out jesus know the real life issue is when you think of jesus. What do you think of. Do you think of priest. Priest king advocate savior lord captain risen savior. What do you think of when you think of jesus.

I mean it's almost like there's matthew mark luke john and hebrews because they're all talking about jesus. Speaking of questions. I was asked this question by a bunch of young men in new zealand. If you were on a desert island.

And i'm like oh come on the desert. You guys you're island crazy here in new zealand anyway you are on a desert island. Why are you asking me if you're on a desert island. And you had only five bible books to bring.

Which ones would you bring. You know i kept thinking the biggest ones job i'd bring because at least you'd get forty two chapters. Why would i pick philemon or obadiah. No offense. But luke gotta pick one.

Gospel romans psalms psalms comfort and encourage. And i said i've got to pick the book of hebrews. Not just because i'm preaching through it but because it even shows from the old testament. He's god from the old testament he's man from the old testament he's all you'll ever need.

The book of hebrews. And as we've been going through the book of hebrews yes we're going slowly but surely through to make sure we get this not a bird's eye view but a panoramic view of the glories of jesus.

You stand at one of those spots and you think you know what. That waterfall is so awesome. I have to take my iphone and put it to pano. And then you just take it like this right. And you push the button and you follow the arrow around.

The Supremacy of Jesus in Hebrews

Chapter one he's human. Chapter two he's god. Chapter three he's the apostle. Chapter four slow down. It says he's the high priest. Chapter five he's better than Aaron. Chapter six and seven and eight and nine and ten.

And you're like i've almost gone in a complete circle by now. That's the book of hebrews. He will not let you stop thinking about the supremacy of christ jesus. It answers every question. The book of hebrews about jesus.

Take a look at chapter two. Verse fourteen. Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood he himself likewise partook of the same things that through death he might destroy the one who has power of death that is the devil and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery.

For surely it is not angels that he helps but he helps the offspring of abraham. Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of god to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

For because he himself has suffered when tempted he's able to help those who are being tempted. Hebrews answers the who question. It also answers the why question. Take a look at chapter nine. Verse fifteen.

Who is jesus. He's the eternal god man. And who is jesus. He is the jesus that comes for a purpose and it answers the why question. He came to live a perfect life and to die on our behalf. Therefore hebrews nine fifteen.

He is the mediator of a new covenant so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.

Why does jesus have to die. Because that person many others will show. Because we are lawbreakers and we have to have our sins. Who is jesus. He's the god man. Why did he come to die on the cross and live a perfect life.

What it answers. What's jesus doing right now. Take a look at chapter seven. Verse twenty five. Jesus is still alive. I wonder what he's doing. Hebrews answers the question. Chapter seven. Verse twenty five.

Consequently he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to god through him since he jesus always lives right now to make intercession for them. Hebrews answers the who question. The why question.

The what question. It answers even the where question. Take a look at chapter nine. Verse twenty eight. Where is jesus now. Is he in my heart. Is he somewhere on the earth. Where is jesus now. He's seated at the greatest place of honor.

So christ. Hebrews nine twenty eight. Having been offered once to bear the sins of many will appear a second time not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him. Hebrews one says he's seated at the right hand of the father and he's waiting there till he returns.

Hebrews asks and answers all these questions. And one of my favorite things about the book of hebrews is what he tells the author. What he tells us to do he does and what he does. He tells us to do hebrews.

Fixing Our Eyes on Jesus in Trials

Chapter twelve. Please as we're just giving a nice overview of what's going on in the book of hebrews before we parachute down into some details. What does hebrews do. It focuses and fixes its eyes on jesus.

What are we supposed to do. Exactly what the writer of hebrews does. Chapter twelve. Verse one. Therefore since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses let us also lay aside every weight and sin which clings so closely and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us.

What does the book of hebrews do. Well what it does. It tells us to do. Verse two. Looking to jesus the founder and perfecter of our faith who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross despising the shame and is seated at the right hand of the throne of god.

Friends when you're in a trial and these readers were many of you are in a trial. What you don't have to tell the people is this phone rings. You've got cancer. What's. Nobody needs to tell you research.

Nobody needs to tell you find a good doctor. Nobody needs to tell you. Well you know what do you have the right insurance. Nobody needs to tell you. You better get a move on this. You lose your job. Nobody needs to tell you by the way get another job.

Start looking. Get your resume out. You just know that because it's built in you know trial with a a friend or a family member a spouse. Seriously. Nobody needs to tell you. Fix that repair that figure that out.

Top priority. But what needs to be said that we forget that it's not natural to us. Is this the book of hebrews. Don't forget who jesus is in the middle of this trial. He won't leave you. He won't forsake you.

He's faithful. He gave himself for you. He loves you. Lo i'm with you always even to the end of the age. That's what you need in a trial. When you're going through things that's what you need to understand.

And so when we come to the bible we have to be careful that we don't come saying you know what i need is a life coach. Maybe that that would be a good new title for pastor mike. Life coach. Friends you don't want me as your life coach.

I can't even lose these last ten pounds. How are you going to try to figure out how to follow me do what i do. But if i can point you to and preach you to something. Remember hebrews is a sermon. It'd be fair to say that hardly anyone here with few exceptions is going through what they're going through.

They're going to lose their house. Let's say today. We're meeting right now. You can't go back to your house because they're taking it over christian persecution. What would you like me to tell you today then if you can't go back to your house we're all on the run.

Starting now. I could say rightfully. So now some of you younger people take care of the grandmas in here. We're in this together. I could say those things that might be right. But the author of hebrews is saying and has said do not forget about fixing your hope on jesus.

There are things that are invisible going on. There's a god who reigns and who rules and who's a king. And when the nations are raging he does what he's not running. He's laughing. Psalm 2. That's what the book of hebrews is about.

When you're in any trial up to including almost death how should you respond. What should you do when i think about my trial. What should i think of. And the default is release. The default is get me out of here.

The default is escape hatch. So therefore we have revelation from god outside of us. That says this son daughter christian. I've not only given you salvation rest. I don't have to work for my salvation.

I'm not going to let anything happen to you. That's not outside my plan. I'll be with you. I can't think of anything more practical. There is an outworking of the greatness of jesus. Yes. And in chapter 13 it talks about money and leaders and marriage.

But it's secondary to the greatness of jesus. Where is jesus. When i'm in a trial hebrews answers it. Who is jesus. When i'm in a trial hebrews answers it. What is jesus doing right now. When i'm in a trial hebrews answers it to think that i can approach him as a song that we just sang with joy.

And even when we stumble and even when we sin in our response to trials the book of hebrews is this. Jesus is greater than your sin. He's not going to unadopt you. Now here's the wonderful thing about the book of hebrews.

And this bent toward. You need to look at jesus before. You need to look at yourself and your trials and everything else. Hebrews author learned it from jesus himself. Turn to mark chapter 6. Mark chapter 6.

Jesus sends the disciples into a trial for a reason. We kind of like to have jesus as he gets us out of the trials. You got a storm in your life? Go to jesus. How about go to jesus. But he's going to send you into a storm.

He sent them there for a reason, why? So here's what we're doing in mark chapter 6. I was thinking about mark when i was thinking of sinclair ferguson. By the way my response to sinclair was there's nothing wrong with showing people the glories of jesus every week.

Actually i think paul said i determined to know nothing among you except jesus christ. Even him. What? Crucified. We don't preach ourselves. 2 corinthians chapter 4. But jesus as lord. What jesus does with the disciples fuels what the writer of hebrews is doing and has done now.

This passage is found in matthew 14 and john 6. But i especially like mark because it's just fast and it's wonderful. And there's no three rings to a circus with three spotlights. Everything is in the middle.

So you're focused here on who jesus this great i am that sends his own people to a storm for a reason. I wonder what the reason is. Is it similar to hebrews? I almost just said out loud. How many questions can you ask a congregation during a sermon?

But today is about questions and answers. And it is not about life coaches. I heard there's good money in life coaching though. My life coaching would be this. Whatever you've done this week we'll call n next week n plus one get going.

Now this walking on the water passage chapter 6. Verse 45. I want you to know ahead of time jesus is really going to walk on the water. The liberals don't think he did. Albert schweitzer actually in his book called the quest for the historical jesus 1906 said this was an optical illusion.

You know how you look at things with heat. And like the highway and everything else. And jesus was on a sandbar but it looked like water. Even in our language in english we say walk on water and use it as just kind of a catch phrase of doing something wonderful.

This isn't just wonderful. This is super natural. Verse 45. Immediately he made his disciples get into the boat and go before him to the other side to bethsaida while he dismissed the crowd. So he fed the ten thousand people the five thousand men super naturally.

And now he's making the disciples get into the boat. Why? Because he's the lord of the sea. And he's sending them into this trial. He made them. Does not the text say that? He made his disciple that means to compel to strain to push.

I think it was arkhen hughes that said he basically shoved them in the boat. Get going. I don't know if he could see bad weather coming or he was making the bad weather come. It doesn't really matter.

He sends the multitude away. Verse 46. And after he had taken leave of them he went up on the mountain to pray. As pastor steve has taught in john chapter 6 there was so much messianic enthusiasm running around jesus that he has to just get away from these people because they're trying to make him king by force.

And he goes to pray. And when evening came the boat was out to sea. So jesus is praying. They're out in the sea. The boat was out to sea and he was alone on the land. I think jesus is probably still praying.

And he, jesus they're miles away by now saw that they were making headway painfully for the wind was against them. And about the fourth watch of the night he came to them walking on the sea. He meant to pass by them.

It's night time certain watch of the day, right? Jesus can see them because he's god. He has x-ray vision kind of coast guard infrared if you will. He sees them straining. The word they're straining at the oars means tormented or tortured.

If you look at a person who is demon possessed in matthew or mark the same word would be used. It's as if the water is demon possessed frothing and foaming and agitated. They're fighting against the waves.

They're not making progress. They're sweating as they're straining and rowing. And what does the text say? I mean we're almost so familiar with it. It doesn't help. But when you just look at it and just imagine if you're there you've seen jesus feed people supernaturally.

Ten thousand people. I mean we have a hard time feeding ourselves after church right at lunch, what are we going to have for lunch? We have a stop and shop right over there. He feeds all these people.

He pushes them in a boat. I'm going to go pray, you guys go out there and now jesus is walking to them. This is amazing. Walking on the sea. Not by, but upon, epi on top of, upon. Now when i see pictures kind of flannelgraph things.

Did you guys, anybody grow up on flannelgraphs? Where are flannelgraphs these days? I know i have such a sweet memory of flannelgraphs. Except it's almost like, you know daniel, you have the daniel flannelgraph set.

But we're still missing jesus because we don't want to dare to be a daniel. The key to daniel is daniel's god, and his name is jesus. And he was in the fire, etc. But anyway, that doesn't help with flannelgraphs.

See? I'm happy for you know what those laughs mean? I'm listening. That's what those laughs mean. We think that it's just kind of walking right, on that sandbar and it's flat firm footing, but flat. The sea is raging.

The waves are going up and down even on the sea of galilee. And you think about the wind coming up over the mountains in the north with the pressure coming from the mediterranean sea. It's churning. We grew up with the phrase there are whitecaps.

Right, you go across the causeway and you look to the left by the old stone church, if you see whitecaps not a big deal. But if on the left hand side is whitecaps multiply by 10 and jesus is walking. So it's as if he's walking up the wave down the wave up the wave down the wave.

He hasn't stilled the storm yet. Progressively marching across the water. Why did he do it? Hey, look at me. Look what i could do. I heard if you go to israel now you can pay several shekels to walk on some plexiglass just underneath the water in the sea of galilee and have a little photo taken.

That's more stupid than shooting a wallaby. Can i get a witness? Monday is the last day to sign up for israel. By the way we're gonna go on a boat across that sea. Why did jesus do this? The text says he intended to pass by them.

What do you mean? He intended to pass by them. People don't know what to do with this. One commentator said it's a mystery clothed with unexplanation. Other people think, you know what? Jesus was praying, he sends them out and now he's just gonna go to the other side and meet them there.

But he sees them floundering. So he's gonna help them. One man called this a playful surprise. Somebody else said this is just a bad translation. But the key is think, i'm gonna make up a word now old testamently.

Think about the old testament. What does it mean to pass by? If you were thinking does the old testament ever use this kind of language to pass by? The answer is yes. God, i'm gonna have to lead your people.

It's a herculean task. I need your help. I need to know who you are. And god said to moses i'm gonna just tuck you in the cleft of the rock. And you're gonna see my glory. And as i pass by you're gonna see that i have mercy upon whom i'll have mercy.

I have compassion upon whom i have compassion. I'm gracious, i'm slow to anger. I forgive transgressions. I'm gonna pass by. So you see who i am to pass by has old testament connotations in job 9 in exodus chapter 33 and 34 with elijah and the lord passed by.

I am going to show you men as i pass by who i am. You didn't get it with the fish and the bread. But you're gonna get it now the lord passing by it doesn't quite make it but it's close. If i said to you i'm gonna pass an idea by you.

He's gonna pass by and show his identity because they're in a storm. And what do they need? An escape hatch? Resolution? They need to know this that if jesus is either in the boat with them or out of the boat they can trust him.

It doesn't matter if he's in the boat it doesn't matter if he's out of the boat. You can trust in this one who loves sinners. So jesus passes by to help them and their faith. Who else could do this? Only god can walk on water.

Who can control the sea? Only god can control the sea. Job 9 .8. Who alone stretches out the heavens and tramples down the waves of the sea? Isaiah 43. When you pass through the waters i will be with you.

And through the rivers they will not overflow you. When you walk through the fire you will not be scorched nor will the flame burn you. You are my witnesses declared the lord and my servant whom i have chosen in order that you may know and believe me and understand that i am he before me.

There was no god formed and there will be none after me. I even i am the lord and there is no savior besides me. I am going to walk on water. I am going to pass by you. And you are going to have it confirmed in your mind that i in fact am jesus the eternal god.

I just sent you into this storm so that you would see this very point. Verse 49. But when they saw him walking on the sea they thought it was a ghost. They cried out. They thought it was a the greek word is phantasma.

They thought it was a phantasm. They thought it was a ghost. They thought it was some kind of apparition. Imagine yourself. I mean i get it from the scripture. But if i am sitting there i am tired. I am sweaty.

I am nervous. I should be all the way across that lake. By now i am a professional fisherman and i have done this thing quite a few times. I am only half way across. I am straining. It is night. I am worried.

I am frightened. I don't know what is going on. Where is the master. And all of a sudden somebody is kind of walking up on the crest of a wave. Somebody is on the bottom of a wave who is out there. It is dark.

It would be weird. Herod was superstitious. That is true. But here what do they do. They cry out. Why do they cry. The waves the wind. My arms are burning. They cried out for they all saw him and were terrified.

That word means to shriek or to be terrified scared to death. You think they see Jesus and they would be calm by the way Jesus. We are so scared of you. You are walking on the sand bar. How dumb is that.

But sin makes you stupid. They cried out for they all saw him and were terrified. But immediately he spoke to them and said you fools. You lost your job. You are not responding. Well you idiot. You have got a diagnosis.

You are down in the basement worried. You are responding improperly. How moronic can you be. That is not what Jesus does. He loves these men. He is their savior. He is the friend that sticks closer than a brother.

He doesn't chide them. He doesn't scold them. What does he say. What do you need when you are struggling. If you have got a child that is struggling in a certain area. And they come to you. What do you say to them.

I want you to know. Yesterday I filed the paperwork. You do not any longer have my last name. I say you know what son see. I am picking on the son for the sin. Right here girls son. I love you. I care for you.

I am here for you. Now let's wipe those tears off. Is it right for you to say everything is fine. I love you. I loved you before you were born. I loved you in your mother's womb. I loved you when you were born.

I loved you when you were a little kid. I loved you when you were a toddler. I loved you. And what does Jesus say. Take heart. It is I do not be afraid. I am not a ghost. I am who I am. Who else can do this.

Jesus. I am here for you. If anybody else said this it would sound ridiculous. But from Jesus now it is not in your text. But here is what Matthew says. Immediately Jesus spoke to them saying take courage it is I do not be afraid.

And Peter answered him and said Lord if it is you command me to come to you on the water. And he said come. Peter got out of the boat walked on the water and came toward Jesus. But seeing the wind he became afraid and beginning to sink.

He cried out saying Lord save me. And then verse 51 in our text. And he got in the boat with them and the wind ceased and to use the King James. And they were sore amazed exceedingly beyond measure. Were they so astounded.

For they did not understand about the loaves but their hearts were hardened. They did not get it that he was this great Savior in chapter 6 with the bread. So Jesus is going to give them another lesson to help their faith.

Matthew's account said immediately Jesus stretched out his hand took hold of him and said oh you of little faith. Why did you doubt. When they got into the boat the wind stopped. And those who were in the boat worshipped him saying you are certainly God's son.

That's the point. In the middle of the trial. In the middle of the trouble. In the middle of Jesus the son pushing them out to be in the trial. What's the response. What's God after God's after for us to say even with the book of Hebrews what does Jesus want in Mark.

I want you to know who I am. I want you to believe in me. I want you to trust me. In spite of what you see in spite of what you feel no matter what you're in the Father's care. No matter what you're in my care.

Whether I'm present or not Psalm 73. Nevertheless I'm continually with you. So here's what the book of Hebrews is. You're in a trial. Trials make you ask good questions. Why I'm in the trial. What should I do about the trial.

But here's the question trials should make you ask what do I really believe. That's the question. What do I really believe. And if you'll turn back to Hebrews chapter 3 essentially Hebrews 1 and 2 is this.

The writer of Hebrews is passing Jesus by in the form not of the incarnate son on the water but in the form of the incarnate son in Greek letters in chapter 1 and chapter 2. Asking and answering this question who do you really believe.

Who are you trusting in right now. He doesn't say when did you walk the aisle. I mean this is a constant thing as a pastor that we have a hard time with. We have little young ones that come up to us and they'll say pastor I went to vacation Bible school and I believed in Jesus.

Or I'll have a parent saying my son trusted in Christ last night. And so what do I want to say. Great. And when they're really little I look at them and they'll say pastor I believe in Jesus. What do I say.

Prove it. Pastor Steve's office is down the way he's the grandpa not me. No what do I say. I kind of bend down a little bit and look at them and go. That's wonderful. Keep believing. That's 1st John present tense.

It's not. Did you believe. It's not. Are you going to believe in the future. It's. Are you believing right now. Keep believing. So you're in a trial. Something's going on. And the question is in Mark and Matthew and Luke John Hebrews.

And in this auditorium. Are you believing. Are you believing that Jesus though not present physically is ruling and reigning the spirit of God dwells in you though. Who do I trust. What do I really believe.

What really matters. There's something about a trial that crystallizes everything. It makes you think clearly. It makes you focus laser like focus. What really matters in life. And what really matters is who you are trusting in.

Because that will affect. If I trust in myself then it's all my own kind of figuring out. But I'm just thinking you know what. I'm just like a kid and I'm tired and I'm weak and I'm sinful and I'm weary.

And I just need to go to my father and say help. Where's my trust. That's why it's more important to think about Jesus than to do something for him. I didn't say it's unimportant. So if you take a look at chapter 3 verse 12 our text today.

That's all introduction. True true. Take care brothers. Unless there be in any of you. And evil what's evil unbelieving heart leading you to fall away from the living God. What's he say the word there in chapter 12.

Verse. Chapter 3 verse 12 take care. It's one Greek word. It means to see. It means to scope. It means to to examine. To look at. Take very important care. To look at to be careful. Don't neglect this.

Watch out. I read this week things that people neglect in their homes like for winterizing. And so before Kim and I went to New Zealand I'm like okay. I need to get the septic thing pumped. I need to get the furnace cleaned.

I need to get the water put out of the irrigation system in the front yard. So it doesn't freeze up. There's all these things that people could neglect. I better not neglect them. Or else here's what the author saying don't neglect this.

Take care. Because once you start not trusting in God it doesn't end. Well here it ends with what. Unbelieving evil apostasy. You've got somebody at work. You're like I don't. I don't know if I trust them.

They did something. I'm not too sure about that now. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's them. But I don't know if I trust them. Your spouse. I kind of not like trusting them so much. The second that starts happening it leads to bad places.