Is THIS Seriously the Best You Got? - Jemar Advises You To Treat Brothers Like Heretics

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Social Justice as a Gospel Issue

Right, I am back from fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada and back on YouTube anyway, so I So social justice statement came out this week and there's been a little bit of controversy about it and So here's the this is it.

This is the article. I think this is an article by Jamar Tisby. Jamar is Famous for being the guy who said he was scared to worship with white people after Trump's election and Here he is in religious news service with an article about the social justice statement.

And I think that this is Jamar actually signaling the beginning of the retreat now. I don't think that he would ever admit this and I don't think that that the social justice movement is over by any stretch of Imagination so do not lose your vigilance here, but this is this is.

Let's just read it together. This is an insane idea that he has here and I think it's it's a gift actually because he very clearly and Definitively gives us the high ground in this debate. So here's the here it is battle lines form of our social justice.

Is it gospel or is it heresy? Okay. First of all, I don't know if he picked this picture. I doubt it. I bet you the religious news service pick this picture. I remember when I used to write for the for the church blog I only wrote a few articles, but I'm definitely blacklisted now, but I remember that I didn't I never chose the picture.

So I don't know if he did but yeah I don't think I'm going out on too much of a limb here to say that this is not a picture of any kind of biblical fidelity whatsoever. Just judging from the just judging from the rainbow vestments that these people are wearing now I could be wrong.

I'm not saying I don't know these people by face like, you know some of these guys I have no idea who they are some of them I do recognize but Yeah, I I'm not sure. This is the this is Like the model Christianity that you're seeing right here.

Anyway. All right. Here's let's just read this article. He says an old question has recently found new energy among Christians. What does the gospel have to do with justice particularly social justice.

Justice has been a frequent topic these days in the face of a stream of cell phone videos capturing instances of police brutality. Also, by the way, just to come out of the article There's been lots of good cell phone videos that have shown that have shown that there wasn't police brutality when there was claimed police brutality.

But that's not really a social justice issue. Is it? Conflict over the presence and future of Confederate monuments and racially charged responses to the nation's changing demographics now this is interesting because the Confederate monuments and and changing demographics I mean are these are these issues of biblical fidelity?

I think some of them might be but but my goodness could be Confederate monuments. What about any monuments? Right? Anyway Christians both of people as people of faith and citizens of this country have pondered what to do in this current social climate they've called for Christians to join or start movements for change as an explicit expression of Discipleship and obedience to the prayer that God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

See that's actually not really the point though because as I've mentioned many times If you're gonna do God's will you have to look at God's law? You have to apply the general equity of God's civil law to find justice but the problem is nobody's having that conversation and actually that's one of the things that a lot of people did not like about the Statement that I did like about the statement because you don't have to be a theonomist to sign it.

You don't have to believe in in what the Westminster Confession says about the about the general equity or the London Baptist Confession says. But the general equity you don't to believe that to sign it.

But it absolutely says that there is only one standard for justice and that is the law of God. So if you're gonna do God's will you have to be talking about the law of God. But unfortunately this side of the movement does never talks about that and according to this article, they probably never will.

Anyway, he says they have called for the church to make amends for the racial divisions of the past and presence and present. Okay. Sure, and I've talked about that as well. We should do it where the Bible applies it and when and how it applies it.

But what exactly are you asking for us to make amends for? We'll never ever know because you'll never ever answer questions as this article makes it very clear. He says others take a different view where some see calls for biblical justice.

They see heresy. He used the H word. Oh, no. Now. I do know that some people do call social justice Christians heretics. I I do not and I don't think many people who signed the statement do. But you know, hey, whatever.

This week a group of Christians published a statement on social justice a response to what they call questionable sociological, that's true. Psychological that's also true and political theories that is present that are permeating our culture and making inroads into the Christian Church.

The statement comes just a short block just after a short blog series posted by well-known Christian preacher and teacher John MacArthur. Warnings of the dangers of social justice. MacArthur called social justice a distraction from the gospel and it definitely is now justice isn't a distraction from the gospel.

Because God is a God of righteousness. The gospel wouldn't even be a thing if God wasn't concerned with righteousness. Of course God is concerned with justice. But as it's been for a long time as as Jamar Tisby says this is not a new idea.

This kind of nonsense has been going on for a while social justice is very different. It actually has nothing to do with the Bible at all. And I think that was very clear in the statement. And I've been very clear about that.

So it's not about justice. It's about social justice, which is a made-up kind of justice. And so MacArthur is exactly right about that. Jamar says oh, this is a quote from MacArthur. Evangelicalism is newfound.

I should get some scary music when I'm reading the MacArthur quote because that's what it is. It's super scary. Evangelicalism's newfound obsession with the notion of social justice is a significant shift and I'm convinced.

It's a shift that is moving many people including some key Evangelical leaders off message and into a trajectory that many other movements and denominations have taken before always with spiritually disastrous results.

He's right about that as well. This is not new and this has happened before and other movements and denominations and it is had Spiritually disastrous results as this one will there's no question about that as this article demonstrates.

So this is the this is exactly the kind of thing that MacArthur is warning about but we'll get to that in a moment. MacArthur is one of the initial signatories of the statement on social justice and the gospel which echoes his blog posts.

While Christians from many traditions races and ethnicities have displayed a concern for social justice. It is a topic that is particularly concerns black and brown folks. We have endured a long history of race based discrimination.

That did not simply disappear after the March on Washington. The passage of the Civil Rights Act or the election of the nation's first black president. Yes, because we all know that after the Civil Rights Act and the March on Washington and the election of Barack Obama that we're still Fundamentally a white supremacist nation that is obvious.

If something tells me this lady's probably not very orthodox, I'm not saying that for sure. I'm just going out on a limb looking at their vestments here with these colorful rainbow vestments noticing that she's a female reverend.

Probably not orthodox, but hey, I don't think Jamar probably picked that picture. Although I'm sure he supports this kind of stuff I've seen him to support that kind of stuff in the past anyway, but the but the point is though that this is one of those non-argument arguments because If you notice a lot of times people will make these statements, but they won't actually say what they're arguing for.

But this is supposed to leave you with an impression this this sentence here is supposed to leave you with the impression that the statement on social justice is racist because It's against something that black and brown folks really care about and the reality is that not all black and brown folks are in the Social justice movement and that's a great thing.

But this these kinds of non-argument arguments are just so there's their low blows. I mean, this is the low road all day long. This whole article is Jamar taking the low road and actually giving advice for others to continue to take that low road.

And so we'll get to that in a minute. Here we go. He says statements that dismiss social justice send a message that the ongoing Marginalization many minorities still experience and struggle against is of no concern to their fellow Christians.

And that's that's actually ridiculous. Jamar, and I think you know that I think you know. This is rhetoric and that's exactly what I just said. You were trying to do here you're trying to make this sort of a racist issue and The reality is that the statement itself absolutely condemns the Marginalization that many minorities experience or struggle against it condemns all of that stuff.

But here you are saying that it actually says that that it's not no big deal. That's what the statement actually does. It's no big deal. That's a lie, and you'll have to answer to God for that. He says there's no concern to their fellow Christians or to God or to the Bible despite ample scriptural evidence that just demonstrates God's concern for the poor and the powerless and the anger towards those who create oppressive conditions and then he lists a few verses there and the the the situation here with Amos and all of these other verses we've talked about a lot of these verses before and Justice is always defined in terms of God's law not these other kinds of sociological Psychological things that you know, we mentioned in the statement and so so yes, these passages are great.

But they're not talking about social justice the way you're talking about it. They're talking about biblical justice the way that God's law talks about it. It's a very different thing because God's concern for the poor is not just a blanket concern for the poor in general.

Because I could quote to you. I don't have them off the top of my head. But I could quote to you many verses where you've got as explicit that the the unrighteous poor do not get God's favor. You see I'm saying it's not just it's not just I'm just concerned for all the oppressed.

No, he he he answers and he saves those who call upon his name. That's who he's that's who he's concerned with. He's concerned with the righteous poor the godly poor the the people his people that are poor.

Not just anyone who's poor and that's one of the main problems because the social justice movement. People have been saying this for decades that that God is concerned. He's on the side of the poor he's on the side of of this kind of stuff and they make it so it seemed like the the oppression that the cause of the poor the cause of the Oppressed is the fact that they're poor and that's not true being poor is not a cause in other words.

That's not what God's saying that we should be on the cause of or stand up for the rights of no. What it's saying is you don't pervert godly justice, which is the same whether you're poor or rich. It's the same standard God's.

God's law is the standard and so You know, these verses are great, but they all support my view not yours. Do you see what I'm saying? They all support the view that God's law is what matters not. The fact that somebody has less money or less income or less wealth or all of these things that that's not an injustice in itself.

There might be injustices that led to that. That's not an injustice in itself. And the reality is that that's what the social justice movement is all about. It's divides the world into two categories oppressor and oppressed and that's not a godly way to do it.

And you know the oppressors the rich people but the press are the poor people blah blah blah anyone can be oppressed and Anyone can be righteous or or or unrighteous. Including poor including rich including white including black but the social justice movement turns it into a thing where it's just really it's just Really black and white and whiteness is bad and blackness is good kind of thing.

Anyway. So here we go. Although much about this statement needs discussion. I will highlight one section in particular. It reads we affirm that some cultures operate on assumptions that are inherently better than those other Cultures because of the biblical truth that informed those worldviews that have produced these distinct assumptions.

The best word to describe that that's basically that's actually let me just say this. That's one of the most obvious statements in the history of the world. I would say that some cultures Operate on assumptions that are inherently better than other cultures because of the biblical truth that informs them because here's the thing.

The the culture of Saudi Arabia is founded on the Quran, right? I mean that's that's the intention of the country that culture is inherently worse Than any culture that is founded on the Bible now I have Muslim friends and so they might be shocked to hear me say that but they shouldn't be because obviously I believe in the scriptures.

I don't believe in the Quran and so any Culture that's founded on the principles and the foundations and the assumptions of the Quran is going to be inherently worse Than a country that's founded on the principles and the foundations of the scripture now.

There's no country that does that perfectly. There's no question about that. I'm not saying the United States does that perfectly or any country does that perfectly? But some countries do it better than others and that's what the statement says.

So anyway, here's uh. Here's uh, what Jamar says about that very obviously true biblical statement he says the best word to describe that assertion above is Dun-dun-dun. Ethnocentric Jamar is Jamar's a PhD.

So with respect I will give him the respect that all the respect that his degree earned him. But Jamar has no clue to talking about if you notice this statement here doesn't say anything about ethnicities it talks about cultures and cultures are obviously can be multi-ethnic and Cultures are multi-ethnic in the sense that this statement is talking about because what this is saying is talking about different cultures That have biblical truths that inform those worldviews now.

There's not one and only one ethnicity that that uses biblical truths to inform their worldview. That's not how it works. That's not that's not this that's not the situation, right? I I don't think that Jamar thinks that.

Because that would be saying something akin to that Christianity is the white man's religion. You know, I mean the white man's worldview and that's not the case because there are white people that have cultures that That are supposed to be founded on biblical truths.

There are Middle Eastern cultures or ethnicities that are founded on biblical truths. There are black African countries whose cultures in some to some degree or another are founded on biblical truths and that's the reality.

So This is to say that this is an ethnocentric statement is reading into the word something that's not said. This has nothing to do with ethnicity. It's talking about cultures that operate according to biblical truths and biblical assumptions.

And so I don't know what the heck he's talking about. But but that's but but this is this is the thing this racial lens has taken over Jamar's thinking on all of this. This is a completely read. This is a completely ridiculous way to interpret this.

Yes, it is very clear. Some cultures are better than others. It's just the fact some cultures are better than others. That's it. I mean, I don't know what else to say about that. I'm sure he can refute every point in the social justice Statement as well as he refutes this one.

Oh, but Jamar doesn't have a clue what he's talking about because he doesn't even know who gets to decide. Which cultures and which assumptions are closer to the biblical truth for most of American history white Christians have claimed that privilege.

That's privilege is now being challenged. No. Yeah. Yeah. So so yeah who gets to decide? Well, the scriptures do and that's why we need to talk about this and debate this but Jamar ain't willing to do that.

But he's going to we'll see that we'll talk about that in a minute. I'm tempted to refute the recent statement on the gospel and justice social code. That's his point by point. I bet you are Jamar. I bet you are.

Okay, I'll wait for I'll hold my breath for that article to come out showing how it falls short of the biblical call for Justice, but I think our time would be better sent on other pursuits. There's too much work to be done work that will be delayed by endless debates.

So here's where the retreat begins. Jamar is retreating. He will not respond to this and he will not ever be held to any kind of scrutiny any kind of cross-examination. That's the reality. So Jamar's PhD.

I'm sure it's very valuable for him. I'm sure he's done a lot of good work for it and all of that. But he will not allow himself and all of his PhD credentials to be even held to any basic scrutiny and he won't even Refute the statement which is so easy to do by the way.

Oh, yeah, he could easily do it, but I'm just not gonna do it. For real this reminded me of that scene from when we were kids, you know. We used to always say it's like that something we couldn't do would be like, oh I could do that I just don't wanna like this reminded me of that Napoleon dynamite scene.

Wish you wouldn't look at me like that Napoleon. I wish you'd get out of my life and shut up. I'm gonna tell you something right now while you're out there playing patty cake with your friend Pedro your uncle Rico.

Making 120 bucks. I can make that much money in five seconds. Here's my advice. This is where it gets good.

This is the good stuff. This is Jamar's advice. Many of the people who authored and signed the statement have large ministries and platforms avoid them. So This is what I kind of took issue with on Twitter last night this.

The people who authored this this he's saying the people who authored, you know. This the ten names that are the initial signers of that statement. You should avoid them now. And at the time when I saw this and a brother reached out to me.

He said hey, he's quoting the Bible there and I kind of thought he might be too. He doesn't actually quote it. So I'm not gonna say he definitely is but I thought there was two verses He could have been referring to.

One was Romans 16. This is the end of the book and he says I appeal to you brothers. Watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you've been taught avoid them for such persons not serve the Lord Christ with their own appetites and by smooth talk and flattering they deceive hearts of the naive and.

So I thought he could have been talking about this because it says avoid them but I kind of said well he probably isn't because this is saying that to avoid heretics because. This is a section about about people who aren't believers, right?

They're not following the Lord. They don't serve God. They serve themselves. And so I think you know to be charitable to Jamar. I don't think he's talking about this. I don't think he thinks these people are heretics.

The other one is the same kind of thing. This is second Timothy 3. Understand this in the last days that will come a time of difficulty people will be lovers of self lovers of money proud arrogant abusive.

Disobedient to the parents and grateful and holy heartless unappeasable slanderous without self-control brutal not loving God treacherous reckless swollen with conceit. Lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God having the appearance of godless but denying its power.

Avoid such people and again, that's very clearly talking about heretics people who are not followers of Christ. So I didn't think that even though it sounds like it because he uses the same exact words.

I don't think he was quoting this but then somebody reached out to me and said that he is that he's done this before. And so if that's the case if he's actually saying that the people who refuted this article are our heretics.

That's even this is an even worse problem. That's literally the Galatian heresy, but but he I don't think he's actually saying that so I mean don't hear here's here's. Here's why I say that that will continue this article.

He says find other authors and preachers you can learn from. And of course, he wants you to read Martin Luther King jr. Who cares about that? If the supporters of statements that dismiss social justice is a distraction from the gospel headline a major conference.

State your concerns to the organization organizers if nothing changes then don't go. This is this is such cultic thinking to be honest I mean I've I've been very critical of the gospel coalition. I will continue to be very critical of the gospel coalition because I think that they're extremely dangerous organization.

However, I do think that they have some valuable things to say still and people criticize me for that all the time. They say I'm trying to like straddle the fence here, or I'm not being enough of a man to just say what I really feel.

And the reality is I really do feel that like even a guy like Matt Chandler who I've already said like look. You know, I don't. I think he's dangerous. I think I think he's a dangerous man for the church.

I think he's hurting the church. But if somebody said hey, I wonder thinking about reading this book, you know the explicit gospel. I'd say go for it. It's probably really good. And all that but the cultic mindset can't have that they need to D platform.

This is actually another if he's not quoting the okay. So there's a couple different options here. He's quoting the Bible here and he's marking out those people as heretics people that you shouldn't listen to you.

I don't think that's what he's doing. What I actually think he's doing is he's taking yet another play from the secular playbook of D platforming. He wants you to state your concerns to the organizers of a conference so that they'll D platform him.

That's what he wants to do. This is a cult kind of thing to do secular people do this all the time. There's constant wars about people that are coming to visit to talk to talk at a university. You got a D platform.

Then we can't hear that stuff. That's what this is. This is a strategy to D platform and rather than engage. You don't trust Jamar. He could engage if he wanted to and he could easily decimate the arguments, but he's not going to.

We'd rather just D platform that that's the real way to get the truth out and that's not that that's not the case at all. I'm glad to. To expose my audience. My small audience to the other side because there's nothing to fear from people who are lying people don't have the truth.

There's nothing to fear from people like that anyway. If they do an interview on a podcast to find another episode to listen to if they write more blogs to state their case. Share the other ones instead.

This is a just textbook D platforming. That's what this is. Statements like these are a distraction. They siphon off energy and attention that could be used to create new organizations and initiatives to help bring about justice and equality.

Instead of writing a rebuttal or statement on social justice. Why not write a proposal for a new scholarship to help underrepresented groups go to college and to stay out of debt? Why not donate money to support ministries run by and geared towards racial and ethnic minorities?

Why not research a cause and find out how you can get involved. Just give him some cash, dude. Why not instead you look why not instead of listening to? Devati Bakkam, why not instead of listening to dr. James White?

Why not instead of hearing out John MacArthur? What he has to say because he's been such a faithful man of God why what instead of doing that just give us some cash. Dude, like give black people some cash.

Why not? Refusing to give more attention to people who oppose social justice is not a statement on their standing with God. See, this is why I don't think he was actually referring to Romans 16. I don't think he was referring to Romans 16 or 2nd Timothy 3 because he says it's not saying that they're not believers.

But the thing is though that You could say with your mouth that they're believers. But if you treat them like unbelievers if you treat them the way Romans 16 says to treat heretics. Then what do you really believe?

See that's the thing here. I've talked about my own personal experience where a brother's gonna is treating me like a Gentile. Automatically because of the social justice stuff and if you asked him hey is Adam an unbeliever.

He probably wouldn't say that I'm an unbeliever, but he's treating me like one. So the reality is what do you really believe what you say or what you do? So I don't think that Jamar would say that these people are unbelievers.

But he's certainly treating them like them and encouraging you to treat them like unbelievers. That is horrible advice. Jamar will have to answer to God for that and you will too. So I don't think you should take this advice.

I don't think you should take this advice. God's God's standard is not deep platforming other believers. That's not what he says to do now if they're heretics. Yeah, absolutely. You don't have a heretic speak at your church, right?

You don't go to a heretic conference. Huh. Interesting the standards are absolutely completely imbalanced. You can go to a heretic conference as long as it's a black guy. Gotcha Marvin this guy has given us a gift here.

He's exposed himself to the whole world here and it's exposed what really matters to him and that's fine. Anyway, this does not mean that they're not sincerely attempting to follow Christ. It does not mean they have not said helpful things on other topics in the past.

It simply means that in this case, they've made statements so troublesome that we must object register objections in visible ways. We must you do what the world does and deep platform them. This is a fantastic if this is this this article is an absolute Just clinic on how to take that low road Jamar.

Thank you. You have taken the low road and I will gladly not join you there. He says this Christians should never give up. Hope that people can change it going back and forth especially online about social justice.

With those who see it as a dangerous intrusion in the church often does not alter anyone's opinion and may lead to more frustration. Yeah, because that's the standard right? Like if if somebody sins against you or if somebody.

If somebody's teaching heresy in the church or whatever or bad teaching the standard is you have nothing more to do with him. You just just just ignore them. You know what? I mean? Just don't don't even don't even argue.

That's what Paul did like when somebody came to him with another argument. He didn't even don't even platform that person that he could easily refute it, but he chose not to. In the end I think more people will be persuaded to change their minds about social justice by looking at the fruit of the people who engage in It rather than by arguing on social media about the validity of doing so.

Yeah, that would be nice. Maybe you should start. Maybe you should start doing that because if you look at the men in the in the initial statement They most of them at least I know have very multi-ethnic churches already, but you don't hear about you know.

Why because it's basic Christianity and they're not they're not like they don't pray like the Pharisees saying hey look at the great work I'm doing once you give me some cash. You know, I mean my church is multi-ethnic, but you know what I don't do I don't say.

Wow, look at how great my methods are and look at my great preaching of multi-ethnicity and all this stuff. Why don't I get can you give me some cash for my church? Because look how multi-ethnic I am.

This is this is just insanity. Absolutely this article. This is great. In the end, okay half a century at the civil rights movement 1950s and 60s it's easy for people to claim that they would have been among the protesters and marchers who risked their lives for the Cause of justice.

Well, the struggle of civil rights never ended now is your chance to get involved for the love of God and love Of neighbor. Yeah, that's true but you can't just say that yes, I have to actually show what love of God and love of neighbor is because Everyone in this debate agrees with that.

Everyone says we should love God and love neighbor. Everyone agrees that God is a God of justice and righteousness and he has a standard for us. The question is that what is that standard? Our charge is that your standard the one that you're using is not biblical and you have never ever Made the case that these kind of like wealth inequalities and income inequalities are a biblical example of injustice.

That's these verses. That you don't even flesh out in any way. They don't make that case. They don't read them all man, and That's the thing. That's why we do need to debate and have a discussion now.

This this article is signaling Jamar Tisby's Retreat from that he will not debate and that's fine. That's totally fine. Everyone has the right to do whatever the heck they want. Some people have decided to discuss these things with me and or others and that's great.

I mean as much as I disagree with the BD and a bully he absolutely recognizes the importance of having this discussion and bearing with People and you know patience and things like that Jamar. He's not he's done bearing with people.

He was done back when Trump got elected. He did he was scared to worship with white people and Now he says you shouldn't even listen to people and in fact should actively try to de-platform people that don't agree with him on Social justice and that is a shame Jamar has retreated.

I don't think that I think the real zealots will listen to Jamar's advice the real zealots will Disengage completely they won't go to conferences with speakers that have Impure social justice views. They'll do that, but I think that the people that are kind of my audience anyway the people that are kind of in the middle here that they know that justice sounds good and they want to be On the side of the oppressed because the scripture says that and they want to know what exactly that means and they're confused.

I don't think they'll listen to Jamar because they they recognize that for what it is disengaging that cultic mindset they recognize that for what it is and so I Thank you I thank Jamar for this gift because I think that my audience of people who do agree with social justice But are maybe a bit confused as to what the scripture says justice is I think that they'll be more likely to listen now.

That one side has decided to disengage. Anyway, that's what I wanted to say now. The other thing is I've had this plan for a while and I'm gonna announce it today. I've been planning on Doing an interview with Jamar.

That's right. Jamar. He has not agreed to do an interview with me, but he's gonna do one it's kind of like like like Clint Eastwood interviewed Obama that one time at the RNC or William Lane Craig did a debate with with who was it?

Oh my goodness one of the one of the atheist lunatics Richard Dawkins and Richard Dawkins didn't want to show up. So he just interviewed an empty chair. That's how I'm gonna interview Jamar. So that's coming.

I was gonna wait until I had a thousand subscribers to do that. But now that it's now that it's clear that Jamar has no interest in debating anyone or talking to anyone or answering any questions. Now that that's very clear.

We're gonna move forward with that. So I don't know when that's gonna come out but look forward to that interview with good old ad Robles interviewing Jamar Tisby on my channel. An empty chair really but it'll be Jamar's perspective.

Anyway, I hope this is helpful again Jamar. Thank you for your honesty in this article. I really do mean that because this is very helpful. And it shows that all of those calls for conversation and listening and leaning in they were completely fake.

It was just rhetoric for you to look good because when it comes down to it, you really don't want to oh, by the way. My wife was telling me that. One thing that I should keep in mind is that he's really only talking about the major the major speakers and the authors of the of The statement so he only wants you to deplatform and ignore and treat like pagans like the leaders like dr.

Why dr? Mr. A pastor askel Josh boys things like that. So he's not really saying that people with smaller platforms like me or like everyday Christians at people in the pews. You should treat like pagans.

And that's true. He doesn't say that. But if you can treat people who are visible with influence like a pagan. Because of their view on social justice and ignore them and try to deplatform them and try to ruin their lives essentially.

If you can try to do that, what's this? What would be the moral reason why you can't do it with a guy like me a small platform guy? You know what? I mean, or just an everyday person in the pews, right?

Why not just avoid all these people if this is if this perspective is so poisonous. What would be the argument to not do that to everybody? Well, I don't think Jamar really cares because this is the guy remember who's scared to worship with white people.

I don't know if he's still scared, but he was before and the reality is that that is extremely divisive evil, it's an evil statement and That's the gonna be the fruit of this article. It's gonna have people that feel justified.

Avoiding anybody that doesn't agree with everything on their social justice agenda. And that's a real shame. That's a real shame and Jamar's gonna have to answer to that to God for that one and That's a I wouldn't want to answer that to God for that.