Dead Men Walking discuss Conspiracy Theories: Chemtrails, CERN, HARP, Nephilim, Monsanto, JFK, CIA

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Greg & Jason had our good friend John in the studio to talk all the conspiracy theories! This was a bit of a departure from what we normally do, and more of a stream of consciousness episode. We discussed Chemtrails, Nephilim, Monsanto, JFK, the CERN Project, the HARP project, and got into a little bit of the elites and central banking. It was a fun episode! Enjoy!

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All right! Is that out of tune? If it is, it's your guitar, dude. It's not my problem.
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I listened to it for the hundredth time. I'm like, Zach, was I in tune? I should. I should change it.
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I should edit it to like a weird F sharp major and see if you notice. Do it, yeah, yeah. Do like a
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Mickey Mouse type change to the sound, you know.
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What is that called when you can like tell a note out of, you know, where you just have, is that perfect pitch? Perfect pitch, yeah, yeah.
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Oh yeah, and by the way guys, we have John here in the studio tonight. That was the voice you heard there.
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John, how you doing, brother? Good. He is a good brother in the Lord and we have him sitting in because we're gonna be talking about some crazy stuff tonight,
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I think. Some fun stuff. It's our conspiracy theory episode. You ready for a little conspiracy theory?
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Yeah. Yeah? John, Jason, I got two J's here. So I can't say J, right? Because if I say
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J, you guys will both look at me. Is that kind of the thing? Yeah, sure. Go ahead, man. Like, whatever.
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All right. Yeah, tonight is the conspiracy theory.
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Oh, scary. Oh, man. Okay, that's enough of that.
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But before we do that, should we get into some news or do we need to do some catching up or what do we want to do?
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Yeah, let's do it. All right, we'll move things right along. Let's get into some news. News, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, the news, news.
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We got some news! Yeah, we do. So, all right, this is coming from WNG .org.
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Shout out. He's like a drive time DJ. Yeah, it's time to stand up to Black Rock's agenda.
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This is, this This is by Jerry Boyer, post -date January 21st, 2022.
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Here's some quotes. I didn't realize Larry Fink had been made God. That's how
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Gadfly billionaire, Sam Zell, reacted to efforts in 2018 by the
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CEO of BlackRock. That's a financial institution. I don't know if everyone out there knows that.
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They usually take care of a lot of 401ks and whatnot. But the world's largest investing firm to promote a fundamental restructuring of our economic system into something called stakeholder capitalism.
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More than three years later, the Church of Fink, who is the CEO, abides and was recently the subject of a write -up in the
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Wall Street Journal. Okay, so I'm gonna come down here a little bit. But they, with that prestige and nearly $10 trillion under management.
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Did you hear me? $10 trillion with a T under management. BlackRock is now among the most powerful institutions in the world.
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According to the Financial Times, roughly 80 % of shares on Wall Street are held by just three large investing firms, of which
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BlackRock is by far the largest. I have so many things to say right now.
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And I really don't. But let me get, hang on one second. All right.
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So in addition to promoting stakeholder capitalism, BlackRock is one of the foremost advocates for ESG investing.
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ESG stands for environmental, social, and governance. An approach that shifts management's focus away from the core business missions of the companies and the highest return for investors toward environmental and social activism.
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Ah. So yeah, there's a lot here. I mean, these guys have more money than most countries.
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You said $10 trillion, right? $10 trillion, yeah. I mean, this is incredible. That's half of our, well, a third of our deficit now in the
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US. That's five times what our budget is. Our yearly budget in the United States. It's insane, but they're allocating money that they are making from hard -earned workers and putting it into things that maybe people do not believe in.
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But it's like, how do you, I don't know. How do you combat your 401k when you don't know how to invest?
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Maybe you haven't read a bunch of books. Maybe you haven't really had a financial advisor. How do you know, if you work at Ford Motor Company, that your 401k is going into BlackRock and you're just like,
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I don't even need to think about my 401k. I'm pumping 6 % into my 401k.
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But then BlackRock is turning around and promoting - Sure, all the social justice stuff.
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Abortion and whatever else. The climate change stuff. They're using money to do that.
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I'd say they call you. Yeah. Hey, I'd be down. Yeah, I was gonna say, he's opening a new office, didn't you?
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Yeah, right? Yeah, exactly. BlackRock's also the company, if you saw like six, eight months ago, the report came out where they're buying up all the houses.
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So BlackRock is - Is that who's doing it? Yeah, BlackRock. As a realtor, we were kind of watching that too.
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And you're seeing tens of thousands of houses nationally being bought up every month by BlackRock.
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And their goal, they said, is they want everyone to lease from them or to rent from them. That is wild.
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The goal is eventually to have everyone own nothing and just lease or rent. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's the great reset, right?
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Get up on that mic. There's actually an article from the World Economic Forum talking about that. You own nothing and be happy.
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And be happy. And be happy about it. By 2030. Wow. Yeah, and I think we're gonna get into that here in a little bit, but yeah, no, it's just insane what's going on.
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So keep our eyes on BlackRock, because everyone goes, Elon Musk is worth 250 billion. You're like, this company's worth 10 trillion in doing these things.
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Yeah, and everybody's, I guess, upset about - Did they get any subsidies from the government? I honestly don't know.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they did. I mean, especially 2008, whenever everyone lost everything.
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Yeah, the TARP stuff. But yeah. That's interesting. So keep an eye on BlackRock too, I think. Definitely. Just good to know as Christians as well.
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I mean, obviously, we're not gonna be, probably as Christians, walking into a BlackRock office meeting and -
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Yeah, saying, hey, what are you doing with our money? What are you doing with my $10 ,000? But that doesn't discourage me one bit to preach the gospel.
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No, for sure. And to fulfill the great commandment. And I think we know how the book ends.
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Yeah. Jesus wins. Exactly. What else we got? So second news story is from Stream.
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Stream .org, the Stream. Responding to Brady Fanatic Goodwin, the latest
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Christian leader to renounce his faith. Brady Fanatic Goodwin, founding member of Grammy -nominated
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Christian hip hop group, The Cross Movement. And in recent years, an apologetics teacher stated
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Monday in a video posted online that he has renounced his Christian faith.
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As Goodwin said in his Facebook video, I sent a letter to my church withdrawing my membership and saying that I am denouncing the
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Christian faith that I have believed, professed, and proclaimed and defended for the last 30 years of my life.
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So yeah, I mean, it's, you know, the deconstruction movement that we talked about.
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Actually, our short just dropped on it yesterday, I think. Yeah, I mean, you know, we touched on a lot of it, but it's, it's, it's sad.
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What is the deconstruction movement? I'm sorry, I'm coughing. No, I gotcha.
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So deconstruction is basically a movement, mostly among millennials
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I'm seeing, some elder millennials, but it's this thing where they say, hey man, I'm, I'm renouncing everything.
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I'm questioning everything. I grew up religious. I'm renouncing my faith. I'm deconstructing from religion.
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The things I taught were just, you know, their truths and not my truths. And as we get into a culture that makes morality subjective and not objective, well, of course, then you can start questioning everything.
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Is it really a sin to do A, B, or C? Should I have been taught that? And it's been a real movement among kind of like the hipster
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Christians, the progressive Christians to then go, well, I'm deconstructing my religion. I'm no longer a Christian.
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And it actually gets them a lot of attention. So most famously, John Piper's son has been going through this over the last three or four years.
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And, you know, putting out these insane, wacky TikToks and Twitters and whatever, but it's becoming more prevalent and it's a way to get a headline.
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It's a way to get attention. I have, I fear sometimes that's part of it, honestly.
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Now, if they're probably really struggling with things, questioning things, whatever. But I would say if you are not in the word and you haven't truly been converted or regenerated, you're not, you don't have a daily prayer life.
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Yeah, you are going to question. You will question everything,
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I think at some point. I wonder, I mean, like in this, it's saying that he was in seminary or something.
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He started questioning his faith. Yeah, right here, right here. He explains how his doubts began to develop when studying at Lancaster Bible College, only to deepen in 2014 when he began studying at Westminster Theological Seminary.
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Oh, man. As Shepard writes, specifically, he said learning how scholars use preexisting theological commitments to arrive at translation and interpretation of the biblical text raised questions for him.
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That's actually a good point. But I mean. Different walks of faith do it, different doctrinal denominations do it.
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They go, well, this is our doctrinal, this is my denominational belief, so therefore, whatever I'm teaching or whatever
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I'm reading, I have to squeeze that through the lens of what the Bible says. Right, exactly. Yeah. And it's just really, that's a hard thing to read, though, that a person has lost their faith or that they may have never really had it to begin with.
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I mean, K -Max from DC Talk, I mean, he's going through that right now.
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There was an article out a few months back, Caveman's Call, Derek Webb. Oh, I saw that, yeah.
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He's been going through that for quite a few years now, I'm pretty sure. But yeah, it's just, that's a horrible thing to see and hear, and we're praying for him, for sure.
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I've noticed it with a lot of Christian artists. I wonder if they become disillusioned because,
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I don't know, I just, you see it with a lot of people who are in the limelight and doing it for Christianity.
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I wonder if they'd be, like I said, they go, I did all these things, but I don't feel any better, or I don't feel any closer to God, or I don't think it hasn't strengthened my faith when, in fact, you getting up and playing 300 shows a year just because you're a
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Christian man isn't necessarily, it's the craziest thing. In this world, especially in the Christian church, you can be doing something that looks very
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Christian, and if another brother or sister in the Lord comes to you and goes, I don't know if that's the best thing for your life, or the
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Lord tells you that, you go, what are you talking about? I'm out there playing Christian music, man. People are getting saved at my, and it's like, we can't handle that, and I'm wondering if those type of people that have been, that feel like they're making an impact, but at the end of the day, they still have kind of an empty soul, and they go, what's going on with my life?
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It feels like it's all meaningless. I have a lot of thoughts on this. There's a lot of things that I saw when we were doing music, and experienced with Christian artists, and being in the
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Nashville scene, or whatever, and I wasn't, yeah, I wasn't out every single night of the week seeing all of it, but the stuff that I did see, it was more of a party lifestyle, more of, you know, you had that ticket.
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You had the ticket, you did not live it out, and unfortunately, that's where you end up.
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Well, we'll be praying for him. Yeah, for sure. We got anything else in the news? Nope, that's it for today. Awesome.
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And that was the Newsy News. Cool, so tonight, we are going to, today, this morning, this afternoon, whenever you're listening, but for us, it's tonight, we're gonna get into some conspiracy theories.
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I know Jason and I had this idea a few months back, and said it might be fun just to have a conspiracy theory episode where,
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I don't know, we talk about some of the ones that have been rolling around in our heads, maybe ones that we think are true, not true, just talk about it and see where it goes.
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I know John is knowledgeable in these kind of things. He said, hey, why don't you just come sit in? If you hear something that, you know, perks up your ears,
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John, obviously jump in and you can comment on it or we can talk about it. And what'd we do?
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Did we say we were just gonna both bring some conspiracy? Yeah, we're just gonna kind of just flow. I mean,
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I know you had three, and then John - I don't know if we'll get to them all, but - I don't know how many you got. I came over, too.
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Yeah, man, hey, I'm just gonna bounce off of you guys. I was looking at a lot of stuff today, but I mean, you know, conspiracy theories, we can go a little bit deeper.
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We'll be like, okay, what have you heard about this? You know, oh, well, I've heard, you know. Well, it's crazy because I saw a meme and it said, conspiracy theories are the new spoiler alert.
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Yeah, right, right, exactly. There's certain - Is that what it's called? Yeah, exactly. Is the new spoiler, and it's like, there's so many over the last five or 10 years to where I've heard, and then you find out, oh, wow, that did come true.
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We're to the point now to where there's so much disinformation going on. People become apathetic.
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I think that's, I think we'll get into this, but I think that's on purpose. That's the agenda. 1984, George Orwell's like, hey, disinformation, disinformation, disinformation, and then people go, oh,
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I don't know what's true. I give up. I don't really care. Just do whatever you do and just leave me alone. So there's a lot of people that's apathetic to that, but it's like, there's so many that are coming true, but one that I've always been really curious about, and I wanted to talk to both of you guys about, and I think it was one of yours, was
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Chemtrails. And before we get into it, of course, we've got to play the song. Here we go. Do it.
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♪ Chemtrails, poisoning the air ♪ ♪ Chemtrails, you're killing me, it's not fair ♪
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Yeah, whoo! ♪ Poisoning the sky ♪ Poisoning the sky!
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Nice! I love it. That was Anvil, right? You know who that is? Yeah. Oh, that's funny that you do.
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I didn't know who it was when John brought it over. I've seen their documentary. Whenever they came back out.
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So the first thing I thought about when I was thinking about this was, I thought back to when
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I was like a young kid, and I feel like I didn't see them nearly as much.
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I didn't see a Chemtrail. Is that the official? I used to just think that they were just planes, you know, like a plane trail across the sky.
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But then when they start showing up and there's like 50 of them, you're just like, were there really 50 planes? Well, not only that, but I distinctly remember laying, it was a fall,
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I was probably like eight or nine, and it was the fall, the leaves were falling, and I was watching a plane go across, and I was just laying in a pile of leaves.
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But I just remember taking my finger, and I could, in perspective, put my finger behind the plane, and it was disappearing with me moving it across.
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Actually, does everyone out there know what a Chemtrail is? Can you kind of describe it? Maybe, yeah, John, give us a, what do you think a
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Chemtrail is? I don't know, it's the - I mean, just a quick definition. I mean, like, it's just a -
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Well, the definition of a Chemtrail is, it's just kind of a generic name that I guess the conspiracy community or the truth community came up with.
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It's just chemical trails versus contrails. Across the sky. Yeah, because contrails disappear, generally, and there's people that believe that there's other chemicals, such as barium or aluminum, that are -
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Added to the fuel, right? Added to the fuel or put behind the wings. They kind of just, they're called constant contrails.
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There's actually a lady who did a whole speech on the UN, with the UN, about, let me find her.
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Yeah, I mean, these are, I've heard that these things change moods, that people start to get a little bit more angry whenever it starts coming down out of the sky,
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I guess, when it's over a community. So what got really - Well, they just block out sunlight in general, and we don't know,
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I mean, there's been proposals to use what they're called stratospheric aerosol injections, they're not
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Chemtrails, in order to combat climate change. So they would put stuff in the fuel that would stay in the air and kind of block out the sunlight.
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Gotcha, okay. And stop the earth from warming. Yeah. Yeah, so here's the thing that got me on the
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Chemtrail stuff, okay? Two things, and I'm gonna, you know, precursor, or just warning here, go look up whatever
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I say. I could be a little bit off, but this is what I'm going from memory, from what I read years ago, in some people that I've talked to.
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So number one, talk to someone who's a good friend of mine, who's a pilot, who said, oh yeah, there's always like government entities that come in and put additives into our fuel.
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It's stuff for whatever, EPA, whatever. And I went, hmm, that's weird. That could be anything you're putting in that fuel if you're not checking it.
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Then two, what most people said it was, was there was aluminum in it. Aluminum, then barium, yep, kind of spreads out in the atmosphere that eventually falls to earth.
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Well, if you go online, you can look at soil samples over the last 100 years and the aluminum content in our soil, any part of the nation, is up, you know, whatever it is, 800, 900%.
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It's crazy high and they can't figure out where's all this aluminum coming from the ground. Well, in the 90s,
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Monsanto, who is medical and food and they do all that kind of, they do the genetics, genetically modified foods and stuff.
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They came up with a seed that was aluminum proof, let's say. I don't know if that's the right term, but it's basically a seed for corn and wheat and soybeans that could grow in aluminum.
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Yeah. Right? Yeah. Fast forward to 2021, 99 and a half percent of your farmers use that seed because there's such a high level of aluminum in our soil.
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So they have a monopoly on seed, on food. Yeah. So you look at that, this is conspiracy theory night, but my brain goes, okay, so you have one company that controls 99 and a half percent of how to grow food.
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Yeah. Right? One, that's power. Two, you control the food source. And now
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Monsanto is into impossible beef and the genetic beef and all that stuff too.
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But so I always think about these and I go, yeah, that would be, we do weather modification and everything else.
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Why wouldn't you spray a little aluminum in the air? And then you have a company on the backend that goes, oh, we've reverse engineered a seed to where you can only get it from us.
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And a lot of people have tried to sue them. Oh, they can't. Well, you gotta realize three of the nine justices,
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Supreme Court justices on the bench right now worked for Monsanto. Wow. Clarence Thomas, which is one of our favorite conservative judges.
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He had three Monsanto cases come in front of him and he ruled in favor of Monsanto and everyone said, well, why is that?
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Well, he was a high level attorney for them for a while. They have people on the FDA. They have people,
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I mean, they're everywhere. Do they have people on Apple podcasts? Because we're in trouble. Yeah, we're in trouble. We said
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Monsanto way too many times in 30 seconds. But here's an interesting one, guys. Here's an interesting one too.
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So there was a farmer and his whole road, all the other farmers switched over to Monsanto seeds.
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He said, absolutely not. I may have the details a little bit wrong, but this is the gist of it. They said,
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I'm not gonna use your seeds. Monsanto actually, when you plow and you put seeds and there's wind and stuff can blow over.
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Now, what you don't realize is these seeds that Monsanto sells, if they germinate with a regular seed, it kills the other seed and the land isn't usable, the seed isn't usable, whatever.
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So the wind blew seeds over into there and they have a law written that says, if our seed gets into your plot, we get the crop.
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Don't care if it's on your property or not, essentially, because it's a proprietary seed. So anyway, he said, no, he's the only plot that's growing his naturally organic food.
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The seeds somehow get on his property. He claims, the one farmer claims, they planted them there purposely. Monsanto says, hey, look, the wind blew it, natural, whatever.
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They go all the way to the Supreme Court. Supreme Court says, nope, you gotta give them your crop because that is a, they have a proprietary, whatever, copyright and patent.
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I'm sorry, not copyright, patent on the seed. And the guy lost his business, just a farmer that was growing organic food.
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So that's the kind of power they have. So you go, those guys have that kind of power. I'm not totally outside of thinking -
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Well, you know who's buying up a lot of cropland, right? Like Bill Gates. BlackRock. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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BlackRock. I'm sure they are. But Bill Gates and a lot of the more powerful men in our world, pretty much, are starting to buy a lot more farmland.
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Yeah. So what do you guys think it is? Well, just real quick, I found that video. It's a lady named
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Rosalind Peterson in California, president and co -founder of the Agricultural Defense Coalition.
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She had a speech that she did at the UN and she talked about how all these chemicals, the barium and aluminum, were getting into the soils in California and killing the trees.
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And she believes that was creating a lot of the forest fires and stuff that had been going on. So - No way.
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You can look, it's called United Nations Talk on Weather Modification, Chemtrails, Geoengineering.
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And it was in, the speech was in 2006. Yeah. And that was with the UN. I remember seeing a video of Prince, the music artist.
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Okay. Okay, follow me now. Of Prince. He was doing an interview and he actually talked a little bit about chemtrails and just about, you know, like I just said,
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I mean, I remember seeing the things that he talked about, but Prince was heavy into that conspiracy theory.
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But he didn't think it was a conspiracy theory. He thought it was real, you know? But I mean, that's how far, you know, these things can go.
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Yeah. It's just weird because the excuses they make for it, they go, oh, that's just, it's natural, you know, what's coming out of the exhaust.
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Yeah. Comes out of the plane, this and that. Right. They use the example that, you know, in winter, when you breathe, you know, when you walk, that's, you know, condensation, but I've never walked a block and looked back and still seen my breath.
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Yeah, yeah. That's my point. So when I was young, that story I was telling, it was only like, to me, in my perspective, it was like an inch behind it.
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It was moving behind. It was dissipating at a normal rate. Now you have them, and not only do they last all day across the whole sky, but then they spread out.
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Have you ever noticed that? And they just kind of get flat and they mix into the atmosphere. I wonder how they're lost.
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They look like they're going in circles. They're doing a grid. I don't know if I've ever seen them in a grid. Really? And I've actually, me and my wife have seen them to where you'll see the contrail, which disappears and what we would call chemtrail or constant contrail that doesn't dissipate right next to each other.
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So what do you think it is? What do you think? I mean, what do you think is doing it though? Like, do you think it's like a little piece of machinery that's flying across the sky?
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Oh no, all you have to do is put an additive in with the fuel. Yeah, I have. And it would be the exhaust. It's from the actual plane.
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I have a video. Oh yeah, oh absolutely. Is that what you're saying, the chemtrail? Okay. Oh no, it comes, yeah, it's the exhaust from the plane. There's a video right here where this guy's explaining it says chemtrails reveal cloud seeding.
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And let me find the back of his plane. So right here, he's got little,
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I don't know what you'd call them, like cylinders that they pop open. And this is a silver oxide that they spread in order to make it rain behind the, on the plane wing or whatever.
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Gotcha. So I don't know if that's what's going on constantly, but I definitely feel like there's
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Do you think it's for like Constant coverage of the sun. I don't, you know, I've never, don't remember when
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I was a kid, you know, it raining for like a whole month. Yeah. You know, or just there's constant coverage.
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So you think it's weather modification? I would think that, yeah, partially it's weather modification that they're either not talking about.
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I mean, that lady goes into to say there's private companies that actually do this without any government regulation and stuff like that.
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So someone's paying them to do it. They're always doing these little, if you look through YouTube, they're always doing different projects in different cities.
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Right. In order to see, you know, make it rain more or like in Beijing, they actually put rockets up in the air in order to make it clear for the
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Olympics. Yeah. So. Well, okay. So that brings me into my second one maybe is like weather modification in general.
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Yeah. Remember when we were younger, it was like, oh, you guys are crazy. If you think you can change the weather. And now in Dubai, they literally make it rain for 20 minutes a day.
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The sheiks and the kings are like, oh yeah, we got a machine. We shoot it up off that big hotel and we just make it rain for 20 minutes a day.
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That's just crazy. Well, I got this document right here. It's called. John came with the facts, dude. He's got documents.
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So this is supposed to be by the United States Air Force. And this was, what was it? When was this written?
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In 96. And it's called owning the weather by 2025. And they were going to use it militarily.
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And here's. No way. So there's a list of things that they proposed that they wanted to do by 2025 against enemy forces like flood lines of communication, fog cover for their airplanes so they couldn't see them.
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Deny freshwater. Just like whip up some fog. Induce drought. I mean, this is all part of this document right here.
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And it goes into detail how they were going to do that. Or they could, it says enhance friendly forces.
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So create clear skies for us if we were going over there. There's actually, there's actually.
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What is that from? What is that document from? That's from the United States Air Force. I just, it was
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FOIA'd. So it was a Freedom of Information Act. Right. And it's online. You can look up the
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PDF. We'll link to it when we post the. So the first instance of this that I found was called
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Project Popeye. And it was, if I can find it. It was actually during Vietnam, they wanted to extend the.
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You were right there on it. Go back one. Where, okay. Right there. So right here, it's March 1967.
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During the Vietnam War to extend the monsoon season over the Laos specific areas of the
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Hau Chi Mon trail. The operation seeded clouds with silver oxide resulting in the targeted areas seeing an extension in the monsoon season periods an average of 30 to 45 days as the continuous rainfall slowed down the truck traffic.
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That's called Operation Popeye. Yeah, Operation Popeye. So we've been messing with the weather since Vietnam. It makes me think about Forrest Gump where they're like.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I. Where it's like, it rains sideways. It rained. It even rained up and it shows it like.
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It's like going up his nose. It's great. So yeah, it's like, this isn't a new thing.
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Yeah. I think we've just all. So you even think back to like Tesla. Like you look at some of his early inventions.
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He said he could control the weather back in the, when was that? Is that like late 1800s, early 1900s? When was
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Tesla even around? I don't know. I'm not sure. Something like that. Yeah, right. So a long time ago. And you look into Tesla and all his inventions, all his patents have all been confiscated by the
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U .S. government. Right, right. You know? Because he was a lizard. On to the next one.
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You're not going there. Uh -oh. Uh -oh. Yeah, let's jump into something else. Okay, yeah. And I do think.
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So we all agree that weather modification is definitely going on. Oh, yeah. They openly admit that they can modify the weather.
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So if it's going on, you know the military has a souped up suite. Oh, yeah. Something that they can use against their enemies.
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But to what extent and what we see is actually weather modification or sometimes silver oxides.
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Oh, sorry. I'm gonna move that up a little bit. Silver oxides or barium or aluminum. I have no idea.
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Yeah. So what's your, wait. Jason, what was your comment on lizards? Let me guess. So lizard people.
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I mean. They live under the earth? Right, like the Clintons and you know, all the,
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I don't even, I honestly couldn't even tell you anything about the lizard people except that the alien side of this and they run the world supposedly.
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You know, if we're not talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They call them reptilians. Reptilians, yes. I've watched a lot of stuff about them in those short videos where their eyes change.
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Right. I don't know if I put much stock in that. Rihanna's one. Yeah. You know, like,
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I mean, it's, it sounds like all the Illuminati are supposed to be those lizard people. It's just hard for me to believe because you can modify.
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Well, yeah. Because the videos that they show, somebody could. Right, right, yeah.
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Change that video or whatever. Exactly. I don't put much stock in it. Yeah. It is funny though. It is, yeah, man, it's crazy.
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That one I think is, I think you gotta debunk that. I mean, wouldn't we have some type of evidence?
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I mean, if they're living here on planet earth, underground, at some point we would come across something that showed.
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So, I got a story. Uh oh. What about me? I was at a party once. No, I'm joking. No, no, no. I saw a lizard person.
30:38
Actually, Billy Corgan was on, Billy Corgan's a lead singer of Smashing Pumpkins. He was on Joe Rogan and Joe Rogan, or was it
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Howard Stern? I don't know. This was, I didn't watch it lately. Don't worry guys, if it was on Howard Stern. No, I'm joking.
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I did see a highlight. But anyway, he talked about actually being somewhere and he was like,
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I did not have any chemicals inside of my body at the time. No DMT.
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I was not, yeah, I was not doing anything and I was completely sober. And he said that he saw someone, shapeshift, in front of him.
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So, I don't know, I mean like, I'm not saying that this actually happened. You guys can look up the video yourself, listen to the story.
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Corgan is not, and actually I'm pretty sure he's like dabbling in Christianity right now.
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Like he's actually, you know. Yeah, like thinking about his faith. But yeah, man, like.
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So, but yeah, but shapeshifters have been around, I mean, recorded. I mean, you look at the Native Americans.
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Yeah. So they believed, so like Bigfoot, for instance. They believed it was a spiritual being and they have written and oral history of it appearing and disappearing and shapeshifting into other things.
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Angels, Bigfoot, Sasquatch. Okay. That's where it came from. In fact, that's where, you know, that's like, so you know when they put five fingers up and they say, how?
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You know, you see in every Hollywood movie, how, a friend or foe, right? Well, that dates back in their history to over 3 ,000 years ago, to where you would hold your hand up so they could see that you weren't
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Nephilim and didn't have six fingers and you only had five fingers. You weren't a giant that had six fingers. They had a lot of stories about giants.
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And then, okay, so then you go to the Bible, which records, which we believe is inherent, right?
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Which we believe is true. And it records a giant, you know, left over from after the flood with six fingers called
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Goliath. Six fingers, six toes. And you go, huh. So that's kind of a weird thing that you have the
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Bible stating something and people go, well, that's kind of crazy, but it might be believable. But then literally 2 ,000, not 2 ,000, not that long, was 1 ,000 years later, the time from Goliath to when we have writings of Native Americans here in this country, 3 ,000 years ago now, but 1 ,000 years after that, going, oh yeah, there was giants all over the place.
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And the remnant of it was they had six fingers and we wanted to make sure they weren't one of those. So we would hold up our hand to show five fingers.
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And you go, huh, that's a weird thing. Like kind of proves something the Bible says, but also very interesting to think about.
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So you're telling me just a couple thousand years ago, this whole country just had so many giants running around and Native Americans were like, so hold up your hand, how many fingers you got?
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Have you guys heard about this within the past few years about the Nephilim that supposedly the, so here's another conspiracy.
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We're getting crazy tonight, ladies and gentlemen. The one that was in Iraq. Yeah, so the, yeah, the armed forces found him and he came out of the cave and like, he was like huge, like 15 feet tall.
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Oh wait, alive? Huge. Yeah, supposedly they shot him down. Yeah, and then they brought him back to Ohio.
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Is that what it was? All the giants go to Ohio, what is that? I heard they shipped him back over to Ohio to some base or something to study him or something like that.
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Okay, Morris house. Yeah, right. Say, listen, listen, someone that's listening needs to write us and tell us why do you, why do we find all the giants in Ohio?
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A bunch of giants have been found in Ohio and there's in Cleveland, there's a big like, there's like a big giant study center or whatever.
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Why does he really go to Ohio? Yeah, I wonder if they took him there. It's crazy. So wait a minute. So it was like a giant person, how big was it?
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They were saying like 15 feet. Yeah. What? Yeah, he was supposed to be pretty big. And he was in a what, living in a cave in Iraq?
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Yes. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's what they said. But it was military that were telling this story.
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So they may have just like, you know, mess with a bunch of people. Well, you know, a lot of the older Hebrew drawings depict like Nimrod as almost a hundred feet tall.
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Yeah, huge, yeah. He had two male lions as his cats, his house cats. He would hold them by the, they have pictures of him holding two lions by the neck.
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And it's like, what the heck, a hundred feet tall. That is huge. Of course you would rule ancient earth if you were a hundred feet tall.
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That moves into another conspiracy that the Smithsonian hides. Smithsonian's crooked, dude.
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They are crooked. What's the hides? They hide all kinds of stuff, dude. I thought you were talking about like hides, like animal hides.
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No, no, no, like there's a conspiracy theory out there that anything that would go against the narrative of, you know, about giants that, you know, that they found like bones and stuff like that, that's a
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Smithsonian. Or anything that goes against younger or older. If you find younger stuff. So they come in and they'll confiscate it.
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And they'll take it to Smithsonian. They'll put it under lock and key. And they'll say, oh, it's for public consumption, but never show it.
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They have like a huge underground warehouse, wherever Smithsonian, the main headquarters is located. Someone's gonna have to check me on the actual facts.
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Might be. But they literally come in and they're like, oh, nope, it's, this is for public good. We have to have it.
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They come in, sometimes they'll have to buy it. But most of the times they just overrule it. They have these crazy weird powers as like a nonprofit.
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And then they just lock them up. And it's like, you know, it's like the fossil that they found,
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I think it was in Virginia or somewhere down South there, more Southern state than us. And it was a fossil of a man's footprint and then a dinosaur footprint over it.
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And it was within 50 years of each other. And they encased it and they're like, well, this is crazy.
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We've got like this, whatever it was, T -Rex or Velociraptor, I don't even know my dinosaurs, but whatever dinosaur they say it is.
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And they're like, so you basically had men walking around with dinosaurs because you have a distinct dinosaur footprint, a distinct man's footprint.
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And it was fossilized within a couple of years of each other. That's wild. Smithsonian swiped in and took it and we haven't seen it since.
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That was like 20 years ago or something. Well, I remember going to the zoo one time and they said that I was seeing a living fossil and I just kind of didn't understand how a fossil would be living.
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Right. Cause they thought, whatever it was, they thought it had been extinct for so many years or whatever. Well, that's the crazy thing too, is like, we don't have a whole lot of action.
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So like a fossil is just the imprint left in the rock from the bone.
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Yeah, it actually, I think the rock takes over the bone. Right. So it's actually not even any
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DNA, not actual bone material. Then everything you see in the Smithsonian or anything you see in a museum is just plaster that's painted to look like bone.
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Yeah. They don't actually have the bones out. They're so, do you know that we don't even have one full dinosaur?
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Yeah, they'll just find bits and pieces. They'll take three or four little pieces and then just extrapolate what they think they look like.
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Oh, really? So yeah. I have watched videos where they had found soft tissue in some of the fossils and stuff like that.
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Yeah, but I don't know if that's millions and millions of years old because you would think, well, soft tissue with any type of DNA still in it.
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Usually would fossilize or not be preserved. I mean, are we going to get to Jurassic Park? Yeah, I was gonna say, are we getting there?
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I think somebody did say that we were, they were trying to do something.
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Yeah, like they found something, the same exact Jurassic Park story.
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I wish I would have had that one for Newsy News. We're such dummies though. We'll probably put an
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Elon Musk chip in it and make it like an AI dinosaur that just takes over the world. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, gosh, man.
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But so what about Smithsonian? Do you think they're doing some stuff, Jen? I have no idea. Oh, he just, you're just like,
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I don't like them. No, I don't mind the Smithsonian. I'm just saying there's people out there that believe that they're hiding stuff that may give us more information than they want us to know.
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So my question is always like, why? Why are they doing that? Why hide everything? Why hide?
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Why have it? Like for instance, so the biggest thing for me with like say flat earthers is like, why are they hiding that from us then?
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If the earth is really flat and we're in a firmament and why is
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NASA spending billions of dollars a year to hide that fact? They're using CGI, they're rerouting planes, they're doing all this stuff.
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First of all, the secret has to be between hundreds of thousands of people. And Mark Twain famously said, three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.
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So it's like, you gotta keep this huge secret. But then on top of that, why? What does it matter if it's flat and firmament or if it's a globe?
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Well, it's the same with aliens. I mean, like if there were really aliens, do you really think that somebody could keep that a secret?
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I know Bob Lazar, what was it? They've been showing like old footage that they say, they've seen
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UFOs and stuff like that on mainstream media. Listen, I'll tell you the moment.
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So I was always back and forth on aliens, right? I'm like, well, there could be something. I think personally,
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I think if there's some type of unhuman being, it's gonna be some type of spiritual, right, some type of spiritual entity taking the form of something.
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But - We talked about that with Steven Banker, which was - Yeah, which was good. Go check out that episode too on YouTube or on our
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Anywhere You Get podcast. But the minute I realized that no one has come in contact with an alien was when
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Trump won election and he had to sit down with this deep state, with the CIA, and they told him anything that he said.
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I asked a bunch of questions about aliens. And the minute he didn't set up like an interview with an alien, like if anyone would have,
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Trump would have like, we're gonna have the number one ratings. It's gonna be huge. We're gonna get an alien. They're gonna be American.
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Like Trump would have been the first one to come out and just, he would wanna break the news and be like, oh yeah, there's aliens, there's this, there's that.
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Either that or the theory goes, every single president's been told that there's been contact, but they have something that says it's in such great importance to the survival of the human race.
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They say, if you say it, if you come out and publicly tell people, then there's gonna be all these issues and they convince them.
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I feel like Trump would have been like, I don't care. Yeah, I know. I'm tweeting it right now. Exactly. You know?
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Well, the spacecraft, like you were just saying, like that they came out and showed or whatever. I mean, with the technology that we have,
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I have heard, I don't know how true this is, but we are at least 10 to 20 years behind NASA's technology.
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Oh, always. Government, 25 years. You know, like government at least, you know? So it's like, did they just put something up in the sky to distract us from what was really going on?
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Just like when Britney Spears was getting divorced and there was some things going on in the White House.
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I mean, that's another conspiracy that's out there. Oh, they do that? Like with George Bush. But yeah. They do that all the time.
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Yeah, I mean, just the distraction stuff, you know? There's one thing going on in the world, like Ukraine is about to happen, but you know, our stock market is dropping, you know, 20%.
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Everybody's worried about their money. And it's like, there's just different things that distract.
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But anyway. No, no, that's what it's all meant for, man. Like if they can't get the 22 -year -old woman looking at TMZ or TikTok videos or whatever and being distracted with that celebrity, they're gonna get the 38 -year -old guy on cryptocurrency in the stock market getting distracted on that.
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They're gonna get the 45 -year -old, 55 -year -old boomer who sits down and watches five games of football a week and zones out that way.
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Look at, the only way that people in power get things done is if you're apathetic. If you're an apathetic
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Christian, apathetic secularist, apathetic voter, whatever. Just don't care, because we wanna do what we wanna do.
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And that's how they do it through entertainment. Well, it gets exhausting. What's that quote where all it takes for evil men to succeed is for good men to do nothing?
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To do nothing, yeah. And that's the whole point. So like politics works that way. I believe the upper levels of the elites work that way.
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They're like, you know, as long as they don't care or we tickle itching ears and get them going with, you know.
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So yeah, go guess who that masked singer is on the, you know, you can't wait to tune in to see, oh, what reality show guest is underneath an owl mask with feathers or whatever stupid show that's on TV.
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I don't even know anymore because I haven't watched regular TV in 20 years. But my whole point is it's like, it's all meant to just be garbage in your brain to distract you, to make you apathetic.
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And that's kind of how disinformation is too. But I totally agree with you, Jason. I think they're always pumping that stuff out there.
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There's always something going on. Like that to distract. And who's not to say that the UFOs aren't something that they've developed in another country, you know?
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Oh, for sure. I mean, we torture, we torture offsite. So why wouldn't we develop offsite? Think about it. Elon Musk read books and was able to put together a rocket ship.
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Right? Like he didn't even, he didn't go to school for that. He read some books and he talked to some really smart people that he was like, okay,
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I'm the head engineer at SpaceX. He just came up with that Neuralink where you can. Yeah, Neuralink's crazy.
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There's a robot that puts, you know, silicone things in your brain and you can actually communicate with technology.
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To play devil's advocate though, I bet you he's got some people that do have some degrees that work for him though, right?
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I mean, it's not like he just sat there and put the rocket together himself. Elon is extremely smart. Yeah, he didn't go to school, right?
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He doesn't have a degree in engineering or anything? He's got a library. His library card has $7 .15
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of late fees on it. Are you quoting Goodwill, honey? Yeah, I was trying to think of the line.
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I couldn't think of the line. Yeah, but yeah, that's better. So you think you're going to come out and you have $100 ,000 in debt?
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Would you get it done for $7 .15 in late charges at your local library? Do you like apples?
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I like them apples. I got a number. I always thought that was the dumbest line ever.
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It's like, but Matt Damon wrote the book, wrote the play, you know, like.
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No, so there's a bit that a comic does about that, not to get off the subject, but he did. Hold on, hold on.
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He was like, okay, I'm a genius in this movie. Yeah, well, who is that?
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Who is that? Did you see that? No, I just think about like how that movie was just set up.
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That's the whole bit that he does. He goes, there's a comic, I can't remember his name, but he does a whole bit about like, of course he's going to be the smartest guy to outsmart.
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He wrote the movie. He's the one who stars in it. Oh, it's Louis C .K. Louis C .K. does a whole bit about it.
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Yeah. I need to look that up. I always thought that was hilarious though, that like. And he's like, oh yeah, you know, he goes, he's sitting in the writer room like, you know what
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I'm going to tell him? How do you like them apples? And he's like, all the other writers are like, it's not that great of a line.
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He's like, oh no, it's like, because it's him. He wrote the movie. He's starring in it. That's hilarious. I got to look that up for sure.
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Yeah. I'll send it to you. Sorry guys. That is one of my favorite scenes in the movie. Yeah, yeah. John's favorite scene is it's not your fault.
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Yeah, yeah. It's not your fault. Don't you do that. Don't even, I love, yeah, sorry.
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But yeah, so that type of entertainment, but here's the thing. So just to bring this back to a somewhat biblical worldview,
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I always get encouraged because people without Christ are going to fall into the, and even people that are
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Christians fall into that apathy and like entertainment. But if you're in the word and you're doing what Christ has commanded us to do, right?
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And you can kind of live in that world of understanding that he's ruling and reigning right now. He has his enemies under his feet that no matter what happens to us, it's for the glory of God.
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Like you actually know your Bible and you trust in it. All this stuff can't get you depressed.
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It can't get you, you know, it can't. Well, if God is sovereign, if you truly believe that,
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God is God, you know? Like there's nothing that can deter that. Sorry, I was on my rant there and my thing went off.
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Oh no. Our background. Yeah, yeah, the siren of God. Yeah, but it doesn't really matter to me.
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Like I look at this kind of stuff and you just go, okay, but can it really do anything to us if God is for us, who can be against this type thing?
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Yeah. I'll switch that thing. Talk amongst yourselves. Yeah, yeah. So did you have any other ones that you were gonna bring up?
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When I first started getting into this just for fun and more entertainment than anything else at first, it's called
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Project Bluebeam. Okay. Have you ever heard of that? No, I don't think so. So this is
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Project Bluebeam. Step one of Project Bluebeam would be this requires the breakdown of archeological knowledge.
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So I guess that would go kind of with the Smithsonian thing that we were talking about. This will apparently be accomplished by faking earthquakes at precise locations around the planet, fake new discoveries at the locations.
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We'll finally explain to all people the error of the fundamental religious doctrines, specifically
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Christianity and Muslim doctrines. Step two of this would involve a gigantic space show.
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So they propose they'll put holographic images in the sky and make it look like Jesus coming down or something or Allah or whatever, where three -dimensional holographic laser projections will beam all over the planet.
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And this is where Bluebeam really takes off. The project will take the shape of whatever deity is most prominent in that area,
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I would suppose, and will speak in all languages. And at the end of this light show, the gods will all merge into one
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God, the Antichrist. Step three of this is telepathic electronic two -way communication.
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It'll involve making people think their God is speaking to them through telepathy projected into the heads of each person individually using extreme low frequency radio waves.
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And then step four has three parts. It's just basically to make humanity think there's an alien invasion, to make them reject
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Christianity. I guess the state or the aliens would come out to be the leaders or the gods or have the truth or whatever.
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So that's the project. Just another form of idol worship, too. Yeah, it's basically, yeah. It's a communist dream right there.
49:43
Wow. I've always said I would not be surprised if the Great Falling Away doesn't have something to do with either like alien, revealing alien stuff, spiritual stuff, or like telepathy stuff.
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Like, oh, I'm hearing God speak to me. And it's like, oh no, we just have the technology to put thoughts in your head. We're not very far away from that.
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No, well, it's probably happening right now. In 1992, Japanese engineers created a headband that you could put on.
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In 1992, they would have the patient think of the color yellow and the screen would turn yellow.
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Think of the color red. That was in 1992. Yeah, yeah. And if we're going with what you said,
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Jason, when we're 25 years behind whatever the private industry has, they got stuff out there right now that they can just point at you and put words in your brain.
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It's called Voice of God technology. Oh, what's right there? Oh, there's a, oh. So they actually proposed they can, and they're supposed to be billboards that were in New York that when you walked by, it only told you the advertisement or whatever.
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Now, I heard of that back in the early 2000s. They were, for advertising reasons, they were doing pinpointed, it was like a cone technology to where they could hit you with a sound beam to where it would only go into your body.
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And then get into, so it basically can go through the cranium, not necessarily even through the air, and you would get the frequency in your brain and hear the words.
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Wow. So they were literally looking into that technology to sell you cereal, okay?
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So if it's down to that mundane, what are they really doing with the stuff that can, you know what I mean? Be long range.
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Also, as far as the holographic projections we have here that Pepsi was gonna, plans to project a giant ad in the night sky using
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CubeSats. What are CubeSats? Is that the thing still? It's called an orbital billboard.
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I guess it would be like a bunch of satellites would project an image, an advertisement in the sky.
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That's what we're using our technology for, for a Pepsi commercial. I guess that's better than -
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I was talking to somebody about this back in the 90s. Like I really thought that this was gonna be like something that was gonna start happening.
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This is serious, man. Like I really literally was talking about it. That's crazy that this is something. What is this called?
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It's called an orbital billboard. It's called an orbital billboard. It's a Russian company called Star Rocket. Should we buy one for Dead Men Walking?
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That's great. See, we get a Dead Men Walking advertisement up over North America.
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Everybody's like, oh my gosh, can you believe these guys? So I don't know how realistic the
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Project Bluebeam is, but they're, I mean, they're definitely coming close to some type of technology that could pull that off.
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But I, you know. I mean. So, I mean, that gets you into, so here's the thing. That's why, like,
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I feel, and sorry for taking it back to the Bible again. We're just a Christian podcast. Here we go. I feel like it's so dangerous if we don't, even within our belief system of who
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God is, to, like, study the word, critically think, look at things logically, like, you know, word study.
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Like, understand that stuff because if we just go around and I'm, like, some way crazy
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Pentecostal that's just like, the Lord told me this, I heard that. You know, I'm supposed to do this because I feel that.
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And it's like, you know, Jeremiah says, don't trust your heart. It's the most evil thing ever. It will trick you at every turn.
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Like, we've got technology now to where you can literally put words in someone's heads. You can actually visualize their
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God in the sky. Like, that's why Jesus was like, yeah, you, I mean, he didn't say idiots, but you get what
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I'm saying. He's like, look, I'm gonna do miracles. You still won't believe. You think I'm a freak show. Like, there's people chasing miracles, chasing visions, chasing visual, chasing a audible word of God when in fact the
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Holy Spirit is a still, small, quiet voice. It is wisdom. It's discernment.
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It's what the word of God says. It's like, I think that's everything, measure everything. Right. That's what's going to protect us against things type of things that could very well be.
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We were calling them conspiracy theories, but a lot of them are going to come to fruition. And a lot of them in our kids' lifetime.
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We all have kids here. Yeah. They're going to be dealing with this stuff. When, when there are age that where they're probably going to be seeing advertisements in the sky, they're going to be hearing things that aren't there.
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They're good. You know what I mean? Well, there's a big push for virtual reality. And I don't know how far we're going to get in metaverse.
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But if you used Elon's technology, you know, that the neural lace, I mean, who's not to say that can't project some type of, you know, augmented reality there to have,
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I don't know what company it is, but they created glasses that creates a kind of an augmented reality where you can see other rooms that aren't actually there.
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So I think that's the beginning steps of it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Bible even talks about, you know, even if an angel of light comes to me, you know, come.
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Yeah. And preaches a different gospel. Yeah. Basically get out of there. Rebuke it.
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So we got anything else as we finish up here? That's all I have. Yeah, I know. No, this has been awesome. We covered a lot of stuff.
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I don't know if we got through anything, but a lot to think about. This is a lot of fun, man. I mean, yeah, it's kind of a different episode.
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We figured we'd have a little fun with it. I love talking about things that I have no idea about and just keep on throwing things out there like, what do you guys think about this?
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And then, you know, there's also people that don't believe that Abraham Lincoln was ever alive. Really?
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Yeah. There's another conspiracy. How are we going to end on that? That's a good one. I don't know. Didn't exist.
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I've never heard of that. Dude, I was going down the rabbit hole for this episode. And I was just like, you know, because you were like, okay,
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JFK, The Great Reset, and Ken Trails. We didn't even get to those. And I was like, yeah, man, I mean, those are going to cover the whole show.
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And then you bring up these crazy things. I'm just like, what? Okay, yeah.
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There's nothing more to really talk about. We'll have to space out and do another one. There's actually a conspiracy about conspiracy theory.
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Oh, really? Give us that one real quick. That's just based off the fact that they think the Warren Report, which was written about people that were opposing the
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Warren Report about the JFK assassination. And they think that they're, in that report, it says that they're going to kind of make conspiracy theory a derogatory term or attack people who have any different views from what that report was.
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So make it like a negative thing instead of an actual theory about a conspiracy. Probably JFK or Hoover because he was the one that shot
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JFK. Oh, is that what we're going out? Hoover probably did though.
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Let's be honest. That's what I heard on - Look it, that just goes to show you, you can't be a president and be like,
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I want to break up the CIA. I want to break up the FBI. I want to break up the Fed. I want to have sound money.
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And they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, pump the brakes there, buddy. Okay, guy that's going to make everything better.
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Yeah, well, not only that, but how drastic they had to go. I mean, the guy was sleeping around with everyone while he was in office.
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Why couldn't they just come out with a fair scandal? They're like, oh no, this guy needs to be like suicided now.
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He needs to be dead. And I fully believe they took care of him. I mean, I say take care, killed him, whoever it was, whether it's the government or -
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No, I don't know. See, we did get to JFK. There's just too much stuff there.
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I know. If you get into it. Oh my gosh. There's a documentary out on, is it Showtime right now?
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Oh, someone, you guys can Google it. Just Google JFK documentary. I think it's Showtime. Might be stars, might be
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Showtime. But it is, it's unbelievable. Oh, it's Oliver Stone did one.
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Oh, gotcha. It's like six hours or something. It's insane. It's supposed to be great. I heard that Kevin Costner's or, no, not
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Kevin Costner. What's his name? The JFK from like the 90s. The JFK from the 90s.
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Michael Douglas, is that his name? Okay. Yeah, his was supposed to be really good as well.
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Wait, Michael Douglas? Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas? Is that who was? In a documentary? No, no, no, it wasn't a documentary.
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It was the actual like JFK. Oh no, I'm talking about a documentary because they just released a whole bunch of more information from the government.
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But the - Cross reference. The stuff that they're, the really good stuff that's been redacted, Joe Biden just pushed it out another 20 years.
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Oh, really? So now we're going to be, what is that? 69, no, 69 he?
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42. When did he get assassinated, JFK? 69, right? 68? I don't know.
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20 years from now is 2042, Greg. No, I'm saying it's going to be like 60, it's going to be like 60 years for this information.
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And it's just because they know it's just going to cause an uprising and you know, I don't know.
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All right. All right, we'll put bookends on this one. We got about an hour here, so I think we did good.
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No. Anything? Why'd you say that so sad? No. I'm going to miss you guys this week.
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