Dead Men Walking discuss Conspiracy Theories: Chemtrails, CERN, HARP, Nephilim, Monsanto, JFK, CIA

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John, how you doing, brother?

Good.

He is a good brother in the Lord, and we have him sitting in because we're going to be talking about some crazy stuff tonight, I think.

Some fun stuff.

It's our conspiracy theory episode.

You ready for a little conspiracy theory?

Yeah.

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Because if I say J, you guys will both look at me.

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Go ahead, man.

All right.

Tonight is the conspiracy theory.

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It's time to stand up to BlackRock's agenda.

This is by Jerry Boyer, post -date January 21st, 2022.

Here's some quotes.

I didn't realize Larry Fink had been made God.

That's how Gadfly billionaire Sam Zell reacted to efforts in 2018 by the

CEO of BlackRock.

That's a financial institution.

I don't know if everyone out there knows that.

They usually take care of a lot of 401ks and whatnot.

But the world's largest investing firm to promote a fundamental restructuring of our

economic system into something called stakeholder capitalism.

More than three years later, the church of Fink, who is the CEO, abides and was

recently the subject of a write -up in the Wall Street Journal.

Okay, so I'm going to come down here a little bit.

But they own, they with that prestige and nearly $10 trillion

under management.

Did you hear me?

$10 trillion with a T under management.

BlackRock is now among the most powerful institutions in the world.

According to the Financial Times, roughly 80 of shares on Wall Street are held by

just three large investing firms, of which BlackRock is by far

the largest.

I have so many things to say right now.

What are they doing?

Let me get going.

Hang on one second.

Alright.

He's getting excited.

In addition to promoting stakeholder capitalism, BlackRock is one of the foremost

advocates for ESG investing.

ESG stands for environmental, social, and governance.

An approach that shifts management's focus away from the core business

missions of the companies and the highest return for investors toward environmental

and social activism.

So, yeah, there's a lot here.

I mean, these guys have more money than.

Most countries.

You said $10 trillion, right?

$10 trillion.

Yeah.

I mean, this is incredible.

That's half of our, well, a third of our deficit now.

In the U .S.

That's five times what our budget is.

Our yearly budget in the United States.

It's insane, but they're.

Allocating money that they are making from hard -earned workers

and putting it into things that maybe people do not believe in, but, you know, it's like,

how do you, I don't know, how do you combat your 401K,

you know, when you don't know how to invest?

Maybe you haven't read a bunch of books.

Maybe you haven't really had a financial advisor.

How do you know if you work at Ford Motor Company that your 401K is going into BlackRock

and you're just like, I don't even need to think about my 401K.

I'm pumping 6 in into, you know, my 401K, but then BlackRock is

turning around and promoting Sure, all the social justice stuff.

Abortion and whatever else.

Climate change stuff.

They're using money to do yeah, to do that.

I'd say they call you.

Yeah.

Hey, I'd be down.

Yeah.

10 trillion.

Yeah.

BlackRock's also the company.

If you saw like six, eight months ago, the report came out where they're buying up all the houses.

So BlackRock is doing it.

Yeah.

BlackRock.

As a realtor, we were kind of watching that too.

And you're seeing tens of thousands of houses nationally being bought up every month by BlackRock and

their goal, they said, is they want everyone to lease from them or to rent from them.

That is wild.

The goal is eventually to have everyone own nothing and just lease or rent.

Yeah,.

Exactly.

Well, that's the great reset, right?

There's actually an article from the World Economic Forum talking about that.

You own nothing and be happy.

And be happy about it.

By 2030.

Wow.

Yeah, and I think we're going to get into that here in a little bit, but yeah, no, it's just insane what's.

Going on.

So keep our eyes on BlackRock because everyone goes.

Elon Musk is worth 250 billion.

You're like, this company's worth 10.

Trillion in doing these things.

Yeah, and everybody's, I.

Guess, upset about.

Did they get any subsidies from the government?

I.

Honestly don't know.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

I mean, especially 2008,.

Whenever everyone lost everything.

TARP stuff.

But yeah.

That's interesting.

So keep an eye on BlackRock too, I think.

Definitely.

Just good to know as Christians as well.

I mean, obviously we're not going to be, probably as Christians walking into a BlackRock office meeting and.

Saying, hey, what are you doing with our money?

What are you doing with my $10 ,000?

But that doesn't.

Discourage me one bit to preach the gospel and to fulfill the great commandment.

And I think we know how the book ends.

Jesus wins.

What else we got?

So second news story is from Stream.

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Responding to Brady Fanatic Goodwin, the latest Christian leader to renounce his faith.

Brady Fanatic Goodwin, founding member of Grammy -nominated Christian hip -hop

group, The Cross Movement, and in recent years an apologetics teacher stated

Monday in a video posted online that he has renounced his Christian faith.

As Goodwin said in his Facebook video, I sent a letter to my church withdrawing my membership

and saying that I am denouncing the Christian faith that I have believed, professed, and proclaimed

and defended for the last 30 years of my life.

So, yeah, I mean, it's, you know, the deconstruction movement that we.

Talked about.

Actually, our short just dropped on it yesterday.

Yeah, I mean, we touched on a lot of it, but it's.

What is the deconstruction movement?

I'm sorry.

No, I gotcha.

So, deconstruction is basically a movement, mostly among millennials I'm seeing, some

elder millennials, but it's this thing where they say, Hey, man, I'm renouncing everything.

I'm questioning everything.

I grew up religious.

I'm renouncing my faith.

I'm deconstructing from religion.

The things I taught were just, you know, their truths and not my truths, and as we get into a

culture that makes morality subjective and not objective, well, of course, then you can start questioning everything.

Is it really a sin to do A, B, or C?

Should I have been taught that?

And it's been a real movement among kind of like the hipster Christians, the progressive Christians to then go,

Well, I'm deconstructing my religion.

I'm no longer a Christian, and it actually gets them a lot of attention.

So, most famously, John Piper's son has been going through this over the last three or four years and, you

know, putting out these insane, wacky TikToks and Twitters and whatever, but it's becoming more

prevalent, and it's a way to get a headline.

It's a way to get attention.

I fear sometimes that's part of it, honestly.

Now, they're probably really struggling with things, questioning things, whatever, but

I would say if you are not in the Word and you haven't truly been converted or regenerated, you

don't have a daily prayer life, yeah, you are going to question.

You will question everything, I think, at some point.

I wonder, I mean, like in this, it's saying that he was in seminary or something.

He started questioning his faith.

Yeah, right here, right here.

He explains how his doubts began to develop when studying at Lancaster Bible College

only to deepen in 2014 when he began studying at Westminster Theological Seminary.

As Shepard writes, specifically, he said, learning how scholars use pre -existing

theological commitments to arrive at translation and interpretation

of the biblical text raised questions for him.

That's actually a good point.

Different walks of faith do it.

Different doctrinal denominations do it.

They go, well, this is our doctrinal, this is my denominational belief, so therefore, whatever I'm teaching or whatever I'm reading, I

have to squeeze that through the lens of what the Bible says.

Right, exactly.

It's just really, it's a hard thing to read, though, that.

A person has lost their faith or that they may have never really had it

to begin with.

K -Max from DC Talk, I mean, he's going through that right now.

There was an article out a few months back, Cademan's Call, Derek Webb.

He's been going through that for quite a few years now, I'm pretty sure.

But yeah, it's just, that's a horrible thing to see and hear, and we're praying.

For him, for sure.

I've noticed it with a lot of Christian artists.

I wonder if they become disillusioned because, I don't know, I just, you see with a lot of

people who were in the limelight and doing it for Christianity, I wonder if they'd be, like I said, they go, I

did all these things, but I don't feel any better, I don't feel any closer to God, or I don't think it has strengthened my

faith.

When, in fact, you getting up and playing 300 shows a year just because you're a Christian man isn't

necessarily, it's the craziest thing.

In this world, especially in the Christian church, you can be doing something that looks very Christian, and if another brother or sister in the Lord comes to you

and goes, I don't know if that's the best thing for your life, or the Lord tells you that, you go, what are you talking about?

I'm out there playing Christian music, man, people are getting saved, and it's like, we can't handle that, and I'm wondering if

those type of people that have been, you know, that feel like they're making an impact, but at the end of

the day, they still have kind of an empty soul, and they go, you know, what's going on with my life?

It feels like it's all meaningless.

I have a lot of thoughts on this.

There's a lot of things that I saw when we were doing music, and

experienced with Christian artists, and being in the Nashville scene, or whatever, and I wasn't

out every single night of the week seeing all of it, but the stuff that I did see,

it was more of a party lifestyle, more of, you know,

you had that ticket, you had the ticket, you did not live it out, and unfortunately,.

That's where you end up.

Well, we'll be praying for him.

Yeah, for sure.

We got anything else in the news?

Nope,.

That's it for today.

Awesome.

And that was the Newsy News.

Cool, so tonight, we are going to, today, this morning, this afternoon, whenever you're listening, but for us, it's tonight,

we're going to get into some conspiracy theories.

I know Jason and I had this idea a few months back, and said, it might be fun just to have a conspiracy theory

episode where, I don't know, we talk about some of the ones that have been rolling around in our heads, maybe ones that we think are true,

not true, just talk about it and see where it goes.

I know John is knowledgeable in these kind of things and said, hey, why don't you just come sit in, if you hear something that

perks up your ears, John, obviously jump in and you can comment on it, or we can talk about it, and what do we

do?

Did we say we were just going to both.

Bring some conspiracy theories?

Yeah, we're just going to kind of just flow.

I know you had three, and then I don't know if we'll get to them all, but I don't know how many you got.

I came over, too.

Hey, I'm just going to bounce off of you guys.

I was looking at a lot of stuff today, but, I mean, conspiracy theories, we can go a little bit deeper.

Okay, what have you heard about this?

Oh, well, I've heard.

Well, it's crazy because I saw a meme and it said, conspiracy theories are the new spoiler alert.

Yeah, right, right, exactly.

Is that what it's called?

Is the new spoiler, and it's like there's so many over the last five or ten years to where I've heard and then

you find out, oh, wow, that did come true.

We're to the point now to where there's so much disinformation going on.

People become apathetic.

I think that's, I think we'll get into this, but I think that's on purpose.

That's the agenda.

1984, George Orwell was like, hey, disinformation, disinformation, disinformation, and then people go, oh, I don't know what's true.

I give up.

I don't really care.

Just do whatever you do and just leave me alone.

So there's a lot of people that's apathetic to that, but it's like there's so many that are coming true, but one that I've

always been really curious about, and I wanted to talk to both of you guys about and I think it was one of yours, was

Chemtrails.

Yeah.

And before we get into it, of course, we've got to play the song.

Here we go.

Poisoning the sky!

Nice!

I love it.

That was Anvil, right?

You know who that is?

Yeah.

Oh, that's funny that you do.

I didn't know who it was when John brought it over.

I've seen their documentary.

Whenever they came back out.

So the first thing I thought about when I was thinking about this was I thought back to when I was like

a young kid, and I feel like I didn't see them nearly as much.

I didn't see a Chemtrail.

Is that the official?

I used to just think that they were just planes, you know?

Like a plane trail across the sky.

But then when they start showing up, and there's like 50 of them, you're just like, were there.

Really 50 planes?

Well, not only that, but I distinctly remember laying, it was a fall, I was probably like 8 or 9, and it was

the fall, the leaves were falling, and I was watching a plane go across, and I was just laying in a pile of leaves.

But I just remember taking my finger, and I could in perspective, put my finger behind the plane, and it

was disappearing.

With me moving it across.

Actually, does everyone out there know what a Chemtrail is?

Can you kind of describe it?

Maybe, yeah,.

John, give us, what do you think a Chemtrail is?

I don't know, it's the.

I mean, just a quick definition.

I mean, like, it's just a.

The definition of a Chemtrail is it's just kind of a generic name

that I guess the conspiracy community or the truth community came up with.

It's just chemical trails versus contrails.

Across the sky.

Yeah, because contrails disappear generally, and there's people that believe that

there's other chemicals such as barium or aluminum that are added to the fuel, right?

Added to the fuel or put behind the wings that kind of just,

they're called constant contrails.

There's actually a lady who did a whole speech on the UN with the UN about.

Let me find her.

Yeah, I mean these are.

I've heard that these things change moods that people start to get a little bit

more angry whenever it starts coming down out of the sky, I guess, when it's

over a community.

I mean, or they just black out sunlight in general, and we don't know.

I mean, there's been proposals to use what they're called stratospheric

aerosol injections they're not Chemtrails in order to combat climate change.

So they would put stuff in the fuel that would stay in the air and kind of block out the sunlight.

And stop the earth from warming.

Yeah, so here's the thing that got me on the Chemtrail stuff, okay?

Two things, and I'm gonna precursor or just warning here go look up whatever I

say I could be a little bit off, but this is what I'm going from memory from what I read years ago

and some people that I've talked to.

So number one talk to someone who's a good friend of mine who's a pilot who said, oh yeah, there's

always like government entities that come in and put additives into our fuel.

It's stuff for whatever EPA, whatever.

And I went, hmm, that's weird.

That could be anything you're putting in that fuel if you're not checking it.

Then two, what most people said it was, was there was aluminum in it.

Aluminum, then barium, yep, kind of spreads out in the atmosphere that eventually falls to earth.

Well, if you go online, you can look at soil samples over the last 100 years and the aluminum

content in our soil any part of the nation is up, you know, whatever it is 800,

900%.

It's crazy high and they can't figure out where's all this aluminum coming from the ground.

Well in the nineties, Monsanto who is medical and food and they do all that kind of,

they do the genetics, genetically modified foods and stuff.

They came up with a seed that was aluminum proof let's say, I don't know if that's the right term, but it's basically

a seed for corn and wheat and soybeans that could grow in aluminum.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Fast forward to 2021 99 and a half percent of your

farmers use that seed because there's such a high level of aluminum in our soil.

So they have a monopoly on seed on food.

Yeah.

So you look at that, this is conspiracy theory night, but my brain goes, okay, so you have one company

that controls 99 and a half percent of how to grow food.

Yeah.

Right.

One that's power, two, you control the food source and now they're, now Monsanto is into impossible beef

and the genetic beef and all that stuff too.

But so I always think about these and I go yeah, that would be, you know, we're into, we do weather modification and

everything else.

Why wouldn't you spray a little aluminum in the air?

And then you have a company on the back end that goes, oh, we've reverse engineered a seed to where you can only.

Get it from us.

And a lot of people have tried to sue them.

Oh, they can't.

Well, you got to realize three of the nine justices, Supreme Court justices on the bench right now

worked for Monsanto.

Wow.

Clarence Thomas, which is one of our favorite conservative judges.

He had three Monsanto cases come in front of him and he ruled in favor of Monsanto and everyone said, well, why is that?

Well, he was a high level attorney for them for a while.

They have people on the FDA.

They have people, I mean, they're everywhere.

Do they have people on Apple podcasts?

We're in trouble.

We said Monsanto way too many times within 30 seconds.

But here's an interesting one, guys.

Here's an interesting one too.

So there was a farmer and his whole road, all the other

farmers switched over to Monsanto seeds.

He said absolutely not.

I may have the details a little bit wrong, but this is the gist of it.

They said, I'm not going to use your seeds.

Monsanto actually, you know, when you plow and you put seeds and there's wind and stuff can blow over.

Now what you don't realize is these seeds that Monsanto sells, if they germinate with a regular seed, it

kills the other seed and the land isn't usable, the seed isn't usable, whatever.

So the wind blew seeds over into there and they have a law written that says if our seed gets into your plot, we

get the crop.

Don't care if it's on your property or not, essentially.

Because it's a proprietary seed.

So anyway, he said no.

He's the only plot that's growing his naturally organic food.

The seeds somehow get on his property.

He claims, the one farmer claims they planted them there purposely.

Monsanto says, hey, look, the wind blew it, natural, whatever.

They go all the way to the Supreme Court.

Supreme Court says, nope, you gotta give them your crop because that is a, they have a proprietary whatever,

copyright and patent.

I'm sorry, not copyright.

Patent on the seed.

And the guy lost his business.

Just a farmer that was growing organic food.

So that's the kind of power they have.

So you go, those guys have that kind of power.

I'm not totally outside of thinking.

Chemtrails.

Well, you know who's buying up a lot of cropland, right?

Like Bill Gates.

Black Rock.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Black Rock.

I'm sure they are.

But Bill Gates and a lot of the more powerful men, you know, in our

world pretty much are starting to buy a lot more farmland.

Yeah.

So what do you guys think it is?

Well, just real quick, I found that video.

It's a lady named Rosalind Peterson in California, president and co -founder of the Agriculture

Defense Coalition.

She had a speech that she did at the UN and she talked about how all these

chemicals, the barium and aluminum, were getting into the soils in California and killing the trees and she believes that was

creating a lot of the forest fires and stuff that are going on.

Oh.

No way.

You can look, it's called United Nations Talk on Weather Modification Chemtrails Geoengineering and

the speech was in 2006.

Yeah.

And that was with the UN.

I remember seeing a video of Prince, the music artist.

Okay.

Okay, following me now.

Of Prince.

He was doing an interview and he actually talked a little bit about chemtrails and just about, you know,

like I just said, I mean, I remember seeing the things that he talked about, but Prince was heavy into that

conspiracy theory, but he didn't think it was a conspiracy theory.

He thought it was real.

You know?

But I mean, that's how far these things can go.

It's just weird because the excuses they make for it, they go, oh, that's just, it's natural, you know,

what's coming out of the exhaust that comes out of the plane, this and that.

They use the example that, you know, in winter when you breathe, you know, when you walk, that's, you know,

condensation, but I've never walked a block and looked back and still seen my breath.

Yeah, yeah.

That's my point.

So when I was young, that story I was telling, it was only like, to me, in my perspective, it was like an inch behind it.

It was moving behind.

It was dissipating at a normal rate.

Now you have them and not only do they last all day across the whole sky, but then they spread out.

Have you ever noticed that?

And they just kind of get flat and they mix into the atmosphere.

And the planes look lost.

They're going in circles.

They're doing a grid.

I don't know if I've ever seen them in a grid.

Really?

And I've actually, me and my wife have seen them to where you'll see the contrail, which disappears and

the, what we would call chemtrail or constant contrail that doesn't dissipate

right next to each other.

So what do you think it is?

What do you think I mean, what do you think is doing it though?

Like, do you think it's like a little piece of machinery that's flying across the sky?

Oh no, all you have to do is put an additive in with the fuel.

And it would be the.

Exhaust.

So it's from the actual plane.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

Is that what you're saying?

The chemtrail?

Oh no, it's the exhaust from the plane.

There's a video right here where this guy is explaining and it says chemtrails revealed cloud seeding

and let me find the back of his plane.

So right here, he's got little I don't know what you'd call them, like cylinders that they pop open and

this is silver oxide that they spread in order to make it rain behind the, on the plane

wing or whatever.

Gotcha.

So I don't know if that's what's going on constantly but I definitely feel like there's

constant coverage of the sun.

I don't, you know, I've never don't remember when I was a kid you know, it raining for like a whole month.

Yeah.

You know, or just there's constant coverage.

So you think it's weather.

Modification?

I would think that.

Overall?

Yeah, partially it's weather.

Modification that they're they're either not talking about.

I mean, that lady goes in to say there's private companies that actually do this without any government

regulation and stuff like that.

So someone's paying them to do it?

They're always doing these little if you look through YouTube, they're always doing different projects in different cities.

Right.

In order to see, you know, make it rain more or like in Beijing, they actually put rockets up in the air in

order to make it clear for the Olympics.

Yeah.

Well, okay.

So that brings me to my second one.

Maybe is like weather modification in general.

Yeah.

Remember when we were younger, it was like, oh, you guys are crazy if you think you can change the weather.

And now in Dubai, they literally make it rain for 20 minutes a day.

Yeah.

The sheiks and the kings are like, oh yeah, we got machine.

We shoot it up off that big hotel and we just make it rain for 20 minutes a day.

That's just.

Crazy.

Well, I got this document right here.

It's called John came with the facts, right?

He's got so this is supposed to be by the United States Air Force.

And this was what was one was this written in 96 and it's called owning the weather by

2025 and they were going to use it militarily.

And here's no way.

And there's so there's a list of things that they propose that they wanted to do by 2025

against enemy forces like flood lines of communication, you know, fog cover, you

know, for their airplanes.

So they couldn't see him deny for like whip up some fog induce, induce drought.

I mean, this is all part of this document right here.

And it goes into detail how they were going to do that or they could hand it says enhance friendly forces.

So you know, create clear skies for us.

If we were going over there, there's actually there's actually what is that from?

What is that document from?

That's from the United States Air Force.

I just it was foiled.

So it was a Freedom of Information Act that right and it's on it's online.

You can look up the PDF and I'll link will link to.

It when we post the so the first instance of this.

That I found was called Project Popeye and it was if I can find it

it was actually during Vietnam.

They wanted to extend you right there on it.

Go.

Back one where.

Okay right there.

So.

Right here.

It's March 1967 during the Vietnam War to extend the

monsoon season over the layout specific areas of the how Chi Mon

trail the operation seeded clouds with silver oxide resulting in the targeted areas seeing an extension in

the monsoon season periods an average of 30 to 45 days as the

continuous rainfall slowed down the truck traffic.

That's called Operation Popeye.

Yeah, we've been messing with the weather since.

Vietnam.

It makes me think about Forrest Gump where they're like

sideways it even rained up and it shows it's like

going up his nose.

It's great.

So yeah, it's like this isn't a new thing.

Yeah, I think I think we've just all so you even think back to like Tesla like you look at some of his early inventions.

He said he could control the weather back and when was that that like late 1800s early 1900s when was Tesla even around?

I don't know.

I'm not sure.

So I don't like that.

Yeah, right.

So a long time ago and you look into Tesla and all his inventions.

They all his patents have all been confiscated by the US government, right?

You know, because he was a lizard on.

To the next one.

Yeah, let's let's jump into something else, but I okay.

Yeah, and I do think so.

We all agree that weather modification is definitely going on.

Yeah, that's they openly admit that they can modify.

So if it's.

Going on, you know, the military has a souped up sweet.

Oh something that they can use against their enemies, but to what extent.

And to and what we see is actually weather modification or sometimes silver oxides

or sorry that up a little bit silver oxides or barium or aluminum and aluminum.

I have no idea.

Yeah.

So what's your weight Jason?

What was your comment on lizard?

Let me guess the lizard people.

I live under the right like the Clintons and you know, all the all the

I don't even I.

I honestly couldn't even tell you every anything about the lizard people except that the alien

side of this and they run the world supposedly, you know, if we're not talking about.

Yeah.

Yeah, they call them reptilians reptilians.

Yeah, I've watched a lot of stuff about them in those videos where their eyes change, right?

I don't know if I put much stock.

Rihanna.

Rihanna's one.

You know, like I mean, it's it sounds like all the Illuminati are supposed to be.

It's just hard for me to believe because well, yeah because the

videos that they show somebody could right right.

Yeah, change that video or whatever exactly and put much stock.

Yeah, it is funny though.

It is.

Yeah, but it's crazy that what I think is I think you got to debunk that.

I mean, wouldn't we have some type of evidence?

I mean, they're living here on planet Earth underground.

At some point we would come across something that so I got a story.

Oh, I was at a party once no I'm joking.

Actually Billy Corgan was on Billy Corgan's elite singer Smashing Pumpkins.

He he was on Joe Rogan and Joe Rogan or was it Howard Stern?

I don't know.

This was that I didn't watch it lately.

Don't worry guys.

If it was on Howard Stern.

No, I'm joking.

I did see a highlight.

But anyway, he talked about actually being somewhere and he was like I

did not have any chemicals inside of my body at the time.

I was not.

Yeah, I was not doing anything and I was completely sober.

And he said that he saw someone shapeshift in front of him.

So I don't know.

I mean like I'm not saying that this actually happened.

You guys can look up the video yourself.

Listen to the story.

Corgan is not and actually I'm pretty sure he's like dabbling

in Christianity right now.

Like he's actually you know, yeah like thinking about his his his faith.

But yeah,.

Man, like so but yeah, but shapeshifters have been around.

I mean recorded.

I mean you look at the Native Americans.

Yeah, so they believed so like Bigfoot for instance, they believed it was a spiritual being and they have

written and oral history of it appearing and disappearing and shapeshifting into other things angels

Bigfoot Sasquatch.

Okay, that's where it came from.

In fact, that's where you know, that's like so, you know when they put five fingers up and they say how you know, you see see in every Hollywood

movie a how a friend or foe right?

Well that goes that dates back in their history to over 3000 years ago to where you would hold your hand

up so they could see that you weren't Nephilim and didn't have six fingers and you only had five fingers.

You weren't a giant.

Yeah, I had.

Six fingers.

They.

Had a lot of stories about Giants like and then okay, so then you go to the Bible which records which we

believe is inherent right which we believe is true and it records a giant you know

left over from after the flood with six fingers called Goliath.

Yeah, six fingers six toes.

Yeah, and you go home.

So that's kind of a weird thing that you have the Bible stating something and people go that's kind of crazy, but it might

be believable.

Yeah, but then literally 2000 not 2000 not that long was a thousand years later the

time from Goliath to when we have writings of Native Americans here in this country.

Yeah 3000 years ago now but thousand years after that going.

Oh, yeah, there was Giants all over the place and the remnant of it was they had six fingers and we wanted to make sure they weren't one of

those so we would hold up our hands to show five fingers and he go huh, that's a weird thing like right kind of proves

something the Bible says but also very interesting to think about exactly.

So you're telling me just a couple thousand years ago this whole country just had so many Giants running around and Native Americans are like so

hold up your hand how many fingers you got?

Have.

You guys heard about this within the past few years about the Nephilim that supposedly the.

So here's another conspiracy this we're getting crazy tonight ladies and gentlemen.

The one that was in Iraq.

Yeah.

So.

The yeah the I don't know about our horses found him and he came out of the cave

and like he was like huge like 15 feet tall and alive huge.

Yeah, you know, yeah.

They shot him down.

Yeah then they they brought him back to Ohio.

Is that what it.

Was?

All the Giants go to Ohio.

What is that?

I heard they shipped him back over to Ohio to some base or something.

To study him or something like that.

Okay, listen.

Listen someone that's listening needs to write us and tell us why do you why do we find all the Giants in Ohio.

A bunch of Giants have been found in Ohio and there's in Cleveland.

There's a big like there's like a big Giant Study Center or whatever.

Why does it really go to Ohio?

Yeah, I wonder if they took him there.

It's crazy.

So wait a minute.

So it was like it was like a giant person.

How big.

350 they were saying like 15 feet.

Yeah, what?

Yeah, he's.

Supposed to be pretty big and he was in at what living in a cave in Iraq.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I'm not saying yeah.

Yeah, but.

That's what they said.

That's what they said.

Yeah, but it was it was it was military that were telling this story so they may have just

like you know, yes with a bunch of people.

Well, you know a lot of the older Hebrew drawings depict like Nimrod.

Yeah as almost a hundred feet.

Yeah, huge.

Yeah, he had to two male lions as his cats house cats.

He would hold him by the pictures of holding two lions by the neck and it's like what the heck hundred feet

tall.

That is huge, right?

Of course, you would rule ancient.

I know.

How tall that moves into another conspiracy that the Smithsonian yes hides.

Smithsonian's crooked dude.

They're crooked.

What's that?

What's the hides?

They had all kinds of stuff.

I thought you were talking about like hides.

Like like animal hides.

No, no, no.

Like there's a conspiracy theory out there than anything that would go against the narrative of

you know about Giants that you know that they found like bones and stuff like that.

That's a Smithsonian or anything that goes against.

Younger or older.

Yeah, if you find younger stuff they they so they come in and they'll confiscate it and they'll take it to

Smithsonian.

They'll put it under lock and key and they'll say, oh, it's for public consumption, but never show it.

Yeah, they have like a huge underground warehouse wherever Smithsonian the main headquarters is located.

Someone's got to check me on the actual facts might be but they literally come in and they're like, oh, nope.

It's this is for public good.

We have to have it.

They come in.

Sometimes I'll have to buy it.

But most of the times they just overrule it.

They have these crazy weird powers is like a nonprofit.

Yeah, and then they just lock them up.

And it's like, you know, it's like the fossil that they found.

I think it was in Virginia or somewhere down South there more Southern state than us.

And it was a a fossil of a a man's footprint and

then a dinosaur footprint over it.

And it was within 50 years of each other.

Yeah, and they encased it and they're like, well, this is crazy.

We've got like this, whatever it was T -Rex or Velociraptor.

I don't even know my dinosaurs, but whatever dinosaur they say it is.

And they're like, so you basically had men walking around with dinosaurs because you have a distinct dinosaur footprint, a

distinct man's footprint and it was fossilized within a couple years of each other.

Wow.

Smithsonian swiped in and took it and we haven't seen it since.

That was like 20 years ago or something.

Huh?

Well, I remember going to the zoo one time and they said that I was seeing a living fossil and I just kind of didn't

understand how a fossil would be living.

Right.

Because they thought whatever it was, they thought it had been extinct for so many years or whatever.

Well, that's the crazy thing, too, is like we don't have a whole lot of action.

So like a fossil is just the imprint left in the rock from the.

Bone.

Yeah, it's actually, I think the rock takes over the bone.

Right.

So it's actually not.

Even any DNA, not actual bone material.

Then everything you see in the Smithsonian or anything you see in a museum is just plaster that's painted to look like bone.

They don't actually have the bones out.

Do you know that we don't even have one full dinosaur?

Yeah, they'll just find bits and pieces.

They'll take three or four little pieces and then just extrapolate what they think they look like.

Oh, really?

I have watched videos where they had found soft tissue in some of the fossils and stuff.

Like that.

Yeah, but I don't know if that's millions and millions of years old because you would think, well, soft tissue with any type of DNA still in

it usually would fossilize or not be preserved.

I mean, are we going to get to Jurassic Park?

Are we getting there?

I think.

Somebody did say that they were trying to do something.

Yeah, like they found something.

The same exact Jurassic Park story.

I wish I would have had that one for Newsy News.

We're such dummies, though.

We'll probably put an Elon Musk chip in it and make it like an AI dinosaur that just takes over the world.

Yeah, exactly.

Gosh, man.

So what about Smithsonian?

Do you think they're doing some stuff, Jen?

I have no idea.

You're just like, I don't like them.

No, I don't mind the Smithsonian.

I'm just saying there's people out there that believe that they're hiding stuff that may give us more information

than they want us to know.

So my question is always like, why?

Why are they doing that?

Why hide everything?

Why hide?

Why have it?

For instance, so the biggest thing for me with, say, flat earthers is why are they hiding that from us, then?

If the Earth is really flat and we're in a firmament and why is NASA

spending billions of dollars a year to hide that fact?

They're using CGI.

They're rerouting planes.

They're doing all this stuff.

First of all, the secret has to be between hundreds of thousands of people.

And Mark Twain famously said, three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.

So it's like, you've got to keep this huge secret, but then on top of that why?

What does it matter if it's flat and firmament or if it's a globe?

Well, it's the same with aliens.

I mean, if they were really aliens, do you really think that somebody could

keep that a secret?

I know Bob Lazar.

What was it?

They've been showing old footage that they say they've seen UFOs and stuff like that in the mainstream media.

Listen, I'll tell you the moment.

So I was always back and forth on aliens, right?

I'm like, well, there could be something.

Personally, I think if there's some type of unhuman being it's going to be some type of spiritual

entity.

Taking the form of something.

We talked about that with Stephen Bancart, which was great.

Go check out that episode too on.

YouTube or anywhere you get podcasts.

But the minute I realized that no one has come in contact with an alien was when Trump won election

and he had to sit down with this deep state with the CIA and they told him anything that he said.

I asked a bunch of questions about aliens and the minute he didn't set up like an interview with an alien.

Trump was like, we're going to have the number one ratings.

It's going to be huge.

We're going to get an alien.

They're going to be American.

Trump would have been the first one to come out and just he would want to break the news and be like, oh yeah, there's aliens, there's this, there's that.

Either that or the theory goes every single president's been told that there's been contact,

but they have something that says it's in such great importance to the survival of the human race.

They say, if you say it, if you come out and publicly tell people then there's going to be all these issues and they

convince them.

I feel like Trump would have been like, I don't care.

I'm tweeting it right now.

Well, the spacecraft, like you were just saying, that they came out and showed or whatever.

I mean, with the technology that we have, I have heard, I don't know how true this is, but

we are at least 10 to 20 years behind.

NASA's technology.

Oh, always.

Government.

25 years.

So it's like, did they just put something up in the sky to

distract us from what was really going on?

Just like when Britney Spears was getting divorced and there was some things going on in the White House.

I mean, that's another conspiracy that's out there.

Oh, they do that?

I've never heard that one.

They do that all the time.

Just the distraction stuff.

There's one thing going on in the world, like Ukraine is about to happen, but our stock market is dropping

20 percent.

Everybody's worried about their money.

It's like there's just different things that distract.

No, no.

That's what it's all meant for, man.

If they can't get the 22 -year -old woman looking at TMZ or TikTok videos or

whatever and being distracted with that celebrity, they're going to get the 38 -year -old guy on cryptocurrency in the stock

market, get him distracted on that.

They're going to get the 45 -year -old, 55 -year -old boomer who sits down and watches five games of football a week

and zones out that way.

Look, the only way that people in power get things done is if you're apathetic.

If you're an apathetic Christian, apathetic secularist, apathetic voter, whatever.

Just don't care because we want to do what we want to do.

That's how they do it through entertainment.

What's that quote where all it takes for evil men to succeed is for good men to do nothing?

That's the whole point.

Politics works that way.

I believe the upper levels of the elites work that way.

They're like, as long as they don't care or we tickle itching ears and get them going.

Yeah, go guess who that masked singer is.

You can't wait to tune in to see what reality show guest is underneath an owl mask with feathers or

whatever stupid show that's on TV.

I don't even know anymore because I haven't watched regular TV in 20 years.

My whole point is it's all meant to just be garbage in your brain to distract you, to make you apathetic.

That's kind of how disinformation is too, but I totally agree with you, Jason.

They're always pumping that stuff out there.

There's always something going on.

Who's not to say that the UFOs aren't something that they've developed in another country?

We torture off -site. We develop off -site.

Think about it.

Elon Musk read books and was able to put together a

rocket ship.

He didn't go to school for that.

He read.

Some books and he talked to some really smart people that he was like, okay, I'm the head engineer at SpaceX.

He just.

Came up with that Neuralink.

Neuralink's crazy.

There's a robot that puts silicone things in your brain and you can actually communicate with

technology.

To play devil's advocate though, I bet you he's got some people that do have some degrees that work for him.

It's not like he just sat there.

And put the rocket together himself.

Elon is extremely smart.

He didn't go to school, right?

He doesn't have a degree in engineering or anything?

He's got a library.

Card that has $7 .15 of late fees on it.

Are you quoting Goodwill, honey?

I was trying to think of a line.

I couldn't think of a line.

You're going to come out and you have $100 ,000 in debt.

What did you get it done for?

$7 .15 in late charges at your local library.

Do you like apples?

I got a number.

I always thought that was the dumbest line ever.

Matt Damon wrote the book.

He wrote the play.

There's a bit that a comic does about that, not to get off the subject.

He was like, okay, I'm a genius in this movie.

Who is that?

Did you see that?

No, I just think about.

How that movie was just set up.

That's the whole bit that he does.

He goes, there's a comic.

I can't remember his name, but he does a whole bit about.

Of course he's going to be the smartest guy to outsmart.

He wrote the movie.

He's the one who stars in it.

Oh, it's Louis CK.

Louis CK does a whole bit.

About it.

Are you serious?

I need to look that up.

I always thought that was hilarious though.

He's sitting in the writer room like, you know what I'm going to tell him?

How do you like them apples?

He's like, all the other writers are like, it's not that great of a line.

He's like, oh no.

Because it's him.

He wrote the movie.

He's starring in it.

That's hilarious.

I got to look that up.

For sure. Sorry guys.

That is one of my favorite scenes in the movie.

Yeah, right.

John's favorite scene is it's not your fault.

It's not your fault.

Don't you do that.

Don't even.

Yeah, sorry.

But yeah, so engines that type of entertainment.

But here's the thing.

So just to bring this back to a somewhat biblical worldview, I always get encouraged because people

without Christ are going to fall into the, and even people that are Christians fall into that apathy and like entertainment.

But if you're in the word and you're doing what Christ has commanded us to do right.

And you can kind of live in that world of understanding that he is he's ruling and reigning right now.

He has his enemies under his feet that no matter what happens to us, it's for the glory of God.

Like you actually know your Bible and you trust in it.

All this stuff can't get you depressed.

Yeah, it can't get you.

You know, it.

Well, if God is sovereign, you truly believe that God is God, you know,

like there's nothing that can deter that.

Sorry, I was on my rant there and my thing went off.

But yeah, yeah.

The siren of God.

Yeah, but.

It doesn't really matter to me.

Like I look at this kind of stuff and you just go OK, but can it really do anything to us if

God is for us who can be against this type thing?

Yeah.

I'll switch that thing.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Yeah, yeah.

So did you have any other.

When I, you know, first started getting into this just for fun and more entertainment than

anything else at first.

It's called Project Blue Beam.

Have you ever heard of that?

No, I don't think so.

So this is Project Blue Beam.

Step one of Project Blue Beam would be this requires the breakdown of

archaeological knowledge.

So I guess that would go kind of with the Smithsonian thing that we were talking about.

This will apparently be accomplished by faking earthquakes at precise locations around the planet.

Fake new discoveries at the locations will finally explain to all people the error of the

fundamental religious doctrines.

Specifically Christianity and Muslim doctrines.

Step two of this would involve a gigantic space show.

So they propose they'll put holographic images in the sky and make it look like Jesus coming down

or something or Allah or whatever.

Where three dimensional holographic laser projections will beam all over the planet.

And this is where Blue Beam really takes off.

The project will take the shape of whatever deity is most prominent in that area I would suppose.

And will speak in all languages.

And at the end of this light show the gods will all merge into one god, the Antichrist.

Step three of this is telepathic electronic two -way communication.

It'll involve making people think their god is speaking to them through telepathy projected into the heads of

each person individually using extreme low frequency radio waves.

And then step four has three parts.

It's just basically to make humanity think there's an alien invasion to make them reject Christianity.

And you know I guess the state or the aliens would come out to be the leaders or the

gods or have the truth or whatever.

So that's the project.

Just another form of idol worship too.

Yeah, it's basically.

It's a communist dream right there.

Wow.

I've always said I would not be surprised if the great falling away doesn't have something to do

with either like alien revealing alien stuff, spiritual stuff or like

telepathy.

Like oh I'm hearing God speak to me and it's like oh no we just have the technology to put thoughts in your head.

We're not very far away from that.

It's probably happening right now.

In 1992 Japanese engineers created a headband that you could put on in 1992.

Okay.

They would have the patient think of the color yellow and the screen would turn yellow.

Think of the color red.

That was in 1992.

And if we're going with what you said Jason when we're 25 years behind whatever the private industry has they got stuff

out there right now that they can just point at you and put words in.

Your brain.

It's called voice of God technology.

Oh, what's right there?

Oh, there's a...

So they actually proposed they can and they're supposed to be billboards that were in New York that

they when you walked by it only told you the advertisement or whatever.

Now I heard.

Of that back in the early 2000s.

They were for advertising reasons they were doing pinpointed is like a cone

technology where they could hit you with a sound beam to where it would only go into

your body and then get into so it basically can go through the cranium not necessarily even

through the air and you would get the frequency in your brain and hear the words.

So they were literally looking into that technology to sell you cereal.

Okay, so if it's down to that mundane, what are they really doing with the stuff that can, you know what I mean, be long range.

Also as far as the holographic projections we have here that Pepsi was going to plans to

project a giant ad in the night sky using CubeSats.

What are CubeSats?

It's called an orbital billboard.

I guess it would be like a bunch of satellites would project an image an advertisement in the sky.

That's what we're.

Using our technology for.

For a Pepsi commercial.

I was talking to somebody about this back in the 90s.

I really thought that this was going to be something that was going to start happening.

This is serious, man.

I really literally was talking about it.

That's crazy that this is something.

What is this called?

It's called an orbital billboard.

It's called an orbital billboard.

It's a Russian company.

Should we buy one for Dead Man Walking?

That's great.

We get a Dead Man Walking advertisement.

Up over North America.

Everybody's like, oh my gosh.

Can you believe these guys?

I don't know how realistic.

The Project Bluebeam is.

They're definitely coming close to some type of technology that could pull that off.

Here's the thing.

That's why I feel sorry for taking it back to the Bible again.

We're just a Christian podcast.

I feel like it's so dangerous if we don't, even within our belief system of who God is,

study the word, critically think, look at things logically, word

study, understand that stuff because if we just go around and I'm some way crazy

Pentecostal that's just like, the Lord told me this.

I heard that.

I'm supposed to do this because I feel that.

Jeremiah says, don't trust your heart.

It's the most evil thing ever.

It will trick you at every turn.

We've got technology now to where you can literally put words in someone's heads.

You can actually visualize their God in the sky.

That's why Jesus was like, he didn't say idiots, but you get what I'm saying.

He's like, look, I'm going to do miracles.

You still won't believe.

Freak show.

There's people chasing miracles, chasing visions, chasing visual, chasing an audible word of God

when in fact the Holy Spirit is a still, small, quiet voice.

It is wisdom.

It's discernment.

It's what the word of God says.

I think that's...

Measure everything.

That's what's going to protect us against these type of things that could very well be, we're calling them conspiracy

theories, but a lot of them are going to come to fruition.

And a lot of them in our kids' lifetimes.

We all have kids here.

They're going to be dealing with this stuff when they're our age, where they're probably going to be seeing advertisements in the sky.

They're going to be hearing things that aren't there.

You know what I mean?

Well, there's a big push for virtual reality.

Oh, sure.

I don't know how far we're going.

Metaverse.

But if you used Elon's technology, you know that the neural lace, I mean,

who's not to say that can't project some type of augmented reality there to have.

I don't know what company it is, but they created glasses that creates kind of an augmented reality where you can

see other things in the room that aren't actually there.

I think that's the beginning steps of it.

I mean, the Bible even talks about, you know, even if an angel of light comes to me.

And preaches a different gospel.

Yeah, basically.

Get out of there.

Rebuke it.

So we got anything else as we finish up here?

That's about all I have.

Yeah, no, this has been awesome.

We covered a lot of stuff.

I don't know if we got through anything, but a lot to think about.

This is a lot of fun, man.

Yeah, it's kind of a different episode.

We figured we'd have a little fun with it.

I love talking about things that I have no idea about and just keep on throwing things out there like, what do you guys

think about this?

And then, you know, there's also people that don't believe that Abraham Lincoln was ever alive.

Really?

Yeah, there's another conspiracy.

How are we going to end on that?

That's a good one.

Didn't exist?

Dude, I was going down the rabbit hole for this episode.

And I was just like, you know, because you were like, JFK, The Great Reset,

and Ken Trails.

And I was like, yeah, man, those are going to cover the whole show.

And then you bring up these crazy things.

I'm just like, what?

Okay, yeah, there's nothing more to talk about.

There's actually a conspiracy about conspiracy theory.

Oh, really?

That's just based off the fact that they think the Warren report, which was written about people that were

opposing the Warren report about the JFK assassination, and they think that they're in that

report, it says that they're going to kind of make conspiracy theory a derogatory term or

attack people who have any different views from what that report.

Was.

So make it like a negative thing instead of an actual theory about a conspiracy.

Probably JFK.

And Hoover because he was the one that shot JFK.

Oh, is that where we're going now?

Hoover probably did though.

That's what I heard.

Look, that just goes to show you you can't be a president and be like, I want to break up the CIA.

I want to break up the FBI.

I want to break up the Fed.

I want to have sound money.

And they were like, whoa, whoa, pump the brakes there, buddy.

Okay guy that's going to make everything better.

Well, not only that, but how drastic they had to go.

I mean, the guy was sleeping around with everyone while he was in office.

Why couldn't they just come out with a fair scandal?

They're like, oh no, this guy needs to be like suicided now.

He needs to be dead.

And I fully believe they took care of him.

I mean, I say killed him, whoever it was, whether it's the government or...

It's Hoover.

Yeah, you think it's Hoover?

No, I don't.

See, we did get to JFK.

There's just too much stuff there if you get into it.

There's a documentary out on.

Is it Showtime right now?

I don't know.

You guys can Google it.

Just Google JFK documentary.

I think it's Showtime.

Might be stars.

Might be Showtime, but it is it's unbelievable.

It's Oliver Stone did.

One.

It's like six hours or something.

It's insane.

It's supposed to be great.

Kevin Costner's or...

No, not Kevin Costner.

What's his name?

The JFK from like the 90s.

The JFK from the Michael Douglas.

Is that his name?

Okay.

Yeah, his was supposed to be really good as well.

Michael Douglas.

Is that who it was?

In a documentary?

No, no, no.

It wasn't a documentary.

It was the actual.

JFK.

Oh, no.

I'm talking about a documentary because they just released a whole bunch of more information from the government.

Cross -reference.

The stuff that they're...

The really good stuff that's been redacted, Joe Biden just pushed it out another 20 years.

Oh, really?

So now we're going to be...

What is that?

69?

No.

69 he?

42.

When did he get assassinated?

JFK.

69, right?

68?

I don't know.

20 years from now is 2042, Greg.

You know what I'm saying?

It's going to be like.

60 years for this information.

And it's just because they know it's just going to cause an uprising.

I don't know.

All right.

All right.

We'll put both hands on this one.

We've gone about an hour here, so I think we did good.

That was fun.

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John, you got anything before we head out?

No.

Why'd you say that so sad?

No. I'm going to miss you guys this week.

Yeah.

Thanks for hanging out with us.

As always, I love you.

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