Book of Acts Part 5

The Holy Spirit’s Work in John and Acts

We're going to continue with our study of the Book of Acts, but we are in the middle of a bunny trail in the Gospel of John, looking at what Christ says that the work of the Holy Spirit would be in, what the Holy Spirit would do.

It is not at all what the Pentecostals say, the best way I can put it. And so let's pray, and then we'll get into our study. Lord Jesus, again, as we open up your Word, we ask your Holy Spirit to help us to rightly understand what is revealed there, so that we may properly believe, confess, and do according to your Holy Word, we ask in Jesus' name.

Amen. Okay, we have been working our way through a portion of the Gospel of John. Technically, we're almost finished with this section, but it's important for us to pick up what Christ says that the Holy Spirit will do, so that when we get back to Acts 2, and we see the Holy Spirit being sent, that what the work of the Holy Spirit is is exactly what Christ said it would be, and that the modern-day Pentecostals and Charismatics, they are way off base regarding what they claim the work of the Holy Spirit is.

It's something very, very different, and as a result of it, they are reading the Book of Acts, especially Acts 2, through the lens of their false ideas, their false understanding, and they're missing exactly what it is that the Holy Spirit really does.

And so, I will say it again, the Holy Spirit does not have us bark like dogs, cluck like chickens, or flop around on the deck like fish. So, did I pray already, by the way? Yes, I did. Okay, I'm having one of those days.

The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, and Witness to Christ

So, let's take a look back in the Gospel of John, chapter 15. I'll start at verse 23 just for context, but it's verse 26 where we're really going to pick up.

Christ says,.

But whoever hates me hates my Father also. If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. But now they have seen and hated both me and the Father. But the word that is written in their law must be fulfilled.

They hated me without cause. Verse 26, But when the helper comes, one of the points I've been making is that this is not a flattering thing. Christ describes the Holy Spirit as a helper, which means you need one.

I need one. As a male, I have a hard time accepting help when I get myself into trouble because I've gotten in over my head. And when my wife says those fateful words, do you need me to help you? Oftentimes, the word yes comes through gritted teeth.

You get the idea. So Christ is very clear. We need a helper. So when the helper comes whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.

Back in the day, I went to Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa when Chuck Smith was still alive. So when that Jesus movie came out, that was interesting for me. My first year of college after I graduated, so this would have been in the fall of 86 and on into the spring of 87, I attended Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa.

And I thought it was like the bee's knees, man. And what was interesting about that place was several things. Number one, the art. I don't know if I can call it iconography, a church art or whatever. They didn't follow the ancient liturgy.

They had their own kind of liturgy that they followed. But when you walked into the sanctuary, there at the very, very, very front of this brick, kind of tan brick building, was a large cross with the symbol of the Holy Spirit, the dove, on the cross.

And looking back on it, I think it's weird. Why would you put the Holy Spirit on the cross, but you wouldn't put Jesus on it? It didn't make any sense. This is kind of the symbol of what's going on here.

Of course, this was a charismatic church. But what was interesting about the place was that in the church service itself, there was no tongue speaking. There was none of the stuff that kind of has been known for the Pentecostal movement.

They saved that for afterwards. They had these things called afterglows. And so I would get invited to afterglows. People would say, oh, well, there's a young college student here, and would you like to come to our afterglow after the service?

Sure, okay. And that's where they pull out the tongue speaking and claim that you need to speak in tongues and all this kind of other stuff. So that was kind of off to the side. But you'll note that all their emphasis is on the work of the Holy Spirit.

But Christ says the Holy Spirit's going to bear witness about me. Christ says the Holy Spirit's job is to be pointing people to him. When I was in seminary, one of my seminary profs put it this way, the Holy Spirit is the PR guy for Jesus.

If you were to sit down with the Holy Spirit and start talking to the Holy Spirit about the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit would stop you and say, let me tell you about Jesus. The Holy Spirit is working in the background, bearing witness about Christ, focusing people on Jesus and what he's done for us.

And then he says to his apostles, you will also bear witness because you have been with me from the beginning. So you'll note that we have a comparison point. The Holy Spirit will bear witness about Christ, and the apostles are going to bear witness as well.

And when you read the epistles and you read the book of Acts, who are the apostles hyper-focused on, laser-focused on? Jesus, right? So you'll note then that the spirit of truth, again, this is another time when the Holy Spirit is referred to as this.

I would note that really stands in contradistinction to the Holy Spirit that is running around today, that isn't really a Holy Spirit. I may have mentioned this a few weeks ago, that a former Bethel student has gone on social media to explain to her what happened when she was a first-year student, a second-year student, a third-year student at Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry.

And when she was a first-year student, she was told by Chris Vallotton, in a group class of like 900 other students, that they are required to give false prophecies. They are required to give at least two false prophecies in the course of every academic year because they want them to learn how to risk, take risks when it comes to hearing the voice of God.

Which means that the prophecies that they're giving are not true. Why would the Holy Spirit want us to be giving words that are not true? The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth.

Conviction of Sin and the Holy Spirit’s Warning

He continues,.

I've said these things to you to keep you from falling away. They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he's offering a service to God. I think the Apostle Paul, before he became the Apostle Paul, Saul of Tarsus, is a prime example of this.

He legitimately thought he was doing a service for God in killing and persecuting and imprisoning Christians. And they will do these things because they have not known the Father nor me. But I have said these things to you that when their hour comes you may remember that I told them to you.

I did not say these things to you from the beginning because I was with you. But now I am going to him who sent me and none of you ask where are you going. But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart.

Nevertheless, I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away. For if I do not go away, the helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment.

Concerning sin, because they do not believe in me. Concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you will see me no longer. Concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. So we can see that one of the primary tasks of the Holy Spirit is to convict the world concerning sin.

And when you listen to the preaching in many charismatic and Pentecostal churches, they will tell you that if somebody is giving you a word that is from God, if it resonates with your spirit, then it is true.

And I have heard many Pentecostal preachers say that when somebody is giving you a word from God, if it makes you feel bad about yourself, then that has to be from the devil, because Satan is the accuser of the brethren.

That's their logic. So that being the case, if you ever hear anybody claiming to be giving you a message from God, and it makes you feel bad about yourself, well, that automatically means, well, that's not the God, that's not the Holy Spirit who's working.

But Jesus says the Holy Spirit will do what? Convict the world concerning sin. And I would note, that is not a fun experience, nor does it feel good. Far, far from it. He will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment concerning sin, because they do not believe.

So note, if we were to talk then, kind of boiling it down, what we know so far. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth. The Holy Spirit is going to bear witness about Christ, focus people on Jesus. The Holy Spirit is going to convict the world concerning sin.

And the Holy Spirit is obviously going to work towards regenerating people in the faith. And then you'll note then, by way of comparing and contrasting, is that kind of done with this. Well, let me just finish this, and then I'll bring one more thing to bear.

Jesus says, I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the spirit of truth, this is now the third time he's said that, spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.

So the Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth, guides you into all truth, convicts you of sin, bears witness about Christ. He will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears, he will speak. He will declare to you the things that are to come.

He will glorify me. He glorifies Christ. He will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine. Therefore, I said to you, he will take what is mine and declare it to you. So you'll note, glorify Christ, bear witness about Christ.

The spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. The Holy Spirit will convict you of sin and unbelief. All very important functions of the Holy Spirit. And then if you were to throw into the mix, maybe like the tail end of Galatians, let's see here, did I go too far?

Yes, I did.

I've got to go to five. Hang on a second here. Paul says to Christians, walk by the Spirit. Now, understand what he's talking about here. Walk by the Spirit. That means to conduct your life with the Spirit's power.

So there's another thing that the Holy Spirit does, and that is that the Holy Spirit gives us the strength to not gratify our sinful desires. I say to you, walk by the Spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.

The desires of the flesh are against the Spirit. The desires of the Spirit are against the flesh. And these are opposed to each other to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you're not under the law.

Now, the works of the flesh, these are evident.

Are you ready?

Sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Now, I'm not trying to kick people in the charismatic movement while they're down. But I would note that within the charismatic movement, they have had scandal, after scandal, after scandal, after scandal, after scandal, after scandal, related to sexual immorality.

And of a type that is legitimately unbelievable. We're talking about involving children and things like this. Major leaders within the movement have fallen within the last year as a result of these things coming to light.

For all their talk of the Holy Spirit, the one thing I've noticed that it seems to be missing among Pentecostal preaching is the preaching of how the Holy Spirit strengthens us and makes us, you know, holy.

So their big focus is on what? Signs and wonders, speaking in gibberish, and hearing bizarre prophecies that talk about breakthroughs and suddenness. But here, Paul is warning us that, number one, we have a sinful flesh and it has some pretty wicked appetites.

And he says, I warn you, as I warned you before, those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the what? The Spirit. The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.

Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and its desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

So you'll note that what's missing in today's focus on the Holy Spirit type of churches is any kind of talk about this. You would think that the Holy Spirit that they are preaching about cares nothing about holiness.

He cares that they make sure to tithe off the gross every week when they get paid. He wants them to make sure that they speak in gibberish and that they learn how to give false prophecies and to take risks and stuff like this.

But what's missing is convicting the world of sin. The Spirit of truth leading us into all truth, bearing witness about Christ, glorifying Christ, and giving us the strength to mortify our sinful flesh in the battle that we have daily with our sinful flesh.

That's all missing.

Pentecostal and Charismatic Corruption

Yes.

Yeah, and if you've not gone through the archives of Daniel Long's channel on YouTube, Long for Truth, he's done a really good job of going back into the history of the Pentecostal and Charismatic Movement and looking at its leaders and looking at the scandals and the horrible things that these people did all in the name of the Holy Spirit.

And you'll note that what seems to be missing within Pentecostal churches is holiness, like legitimate holiness. So, for instance, Charles Fox Parham. Charles Fox Parham. He's the guy who, when you talk about the modern Pentecostal Movement, there's two guys that come to mind, Parham and Seymour.

Seymour was the guy who did the Azusa Street revivals, and Parham actually came and did some work with Seymour at the Azusa Street revivals. But Parham is the guy who kind of set the stage. It was his group in Topeka, Kansas, where they claimed that tongues had first been restored to the church.

And then you think of Agnes Osmond thinking that she can speak in Chinese and all that kind of nonsense that goes along with it. Charles Fox Parham was eventually taken out of ministry when it was found out that he was charged in Waco, Texas, with sodomizing a boy.

And he confessed to it. He admitted that it took place, but he claimed that he was not responsible for it because it happened while he was asleep. And so it was something that he did not cognitively choose to do.

It was just something that happened while he was sleeping. That was his claim. Of course, that didn't sit right with people. And then it turns out that there was another charge brought against him in another town of a similar type.

And so that eventually kind of washed him out of ministry. But his story is not isolated. You think of Amy Semple McPherson. This is a woman who is responsible, almost practically solely responsible, for the creation of the four square churches.

And this is a woman who was sexually immoral herself. And not only that, she was preaching when the Scriptures clearly said that she's not allowed to be a pastor. She was, back in the 1920s, a religious celebrity in America.

Absolutely a celebrity. And she even faked. She disappeared and faked her own abduction. It turns out she had gone to Mexico in order to be with some guy.

Just crazy stuff.

And don't even get me started on John G. Lake and other people like that. These folks are legitimately proven over and over again. The charismatic movement calls them God's generals. But these are like generals of Satan.

Their lives are not marked by holiness. Their preaching is not marked by pointing us to Christ. Their preaching is not marked by preaching the truth. Their preaching is always about them. In fact, Parham at one point called himself Elijah III.

Just crazy stuff.

But we can see here that the Holy Spirit, according to Christ, again is going to bear witness about him. He's the Spirit of truth, lead people into truth, all truth. He's going to glorify Christ. He's going to convict the world of sin and unbelief.

And we learn from the Apostle Paul that the Holy Spirit produces in us the fruit of the Spirit. Full stop. Does anything that I've said so far sound mystical or crazy or whatever? Not at all. Now before we get into back to the book of Acts then, we need to do a little excursus, one more little bunny trail on top of the bunny trail, and take a look at what 1 Corinthians chapters 12, 13, and 14 teach regarding the gifts of the Spirit.

And we're going to put this on a timeline so that we can see how this all plays out. Then we're prepared for Acts chapter 2 with the arrival of the Holy Spirit. Now real quick, I could have sworn I saw that there were some questions that may have come.

Oh, okay. I don't see Bruce putting questions up though. Okay, let's see here. Okay, let's see. Karen says, Karen, this is a baptismal reality. So the idea then is our baptism, we're buried with Christ, we're raised with Christ, and our sinful flesh has been crucified.

I would see Romans 6 for a further explanation. Paul is pointing to a baptismal reality that we apprehend by faith. And you'll note then the idea then being baptized into Christ, into his death, into his resurrection, having crucified our sinful flesh, then the thing that comes as a result of that is that we are not enslaved to sin.

We're not slaves. We can actually say no. We can tell sin no, whereas a slave can't. But the thing is you have to believe what the Scriptures say about that baptismal reality. That's kind of the idea so that you can defy the devil in that sense.

Lena says, Well, Satan describes himself as an angel of light. You'll note that Satan doesn't show up in a church wearing a red suit and a pitchfork. He shows up claiming to be one of the good guys. And the scary thing is that you have to test the preaching and teaching by the Scriptures to be able to identify this.

Spiritual Gifts, Tongues, and the Body of Christ in 1 Corinthians 12

So 1 Corinthians 12, let's talk about this section first before we get back to the book of Acts and the day of Pentecost. This is the portion of Scripture that talks about spiritual gifts. And here's where we have to put this on a timeline.

1 Corinthians is the earliest epistle in the New Testament, written probably around 50 AD, no later than 52 AD. So let's just kind of put this into a timeline. We're talking 20-ish years, maybe a little less, since Christ's death, burial, resurrection, and ascension.

And if it's the earliest of the epistles, and it is, then that means what? We've got a long way before the New Testament's finished. So here's where we have to recognize that there is a function that needs to be filled before the completion of the New Testament.

And that function is that in Christian churches, you have to have New Testament theology preached. And without a finished New Testament, how is that going to happen? Through the Spirit. So these gifts are absolutely necessary without the finished New Testament.

Absolutely necessary. Because otherwise, you're going to church every Sunday, and the only books you're hearing from are the Old Testament books. But now that Christ has come, you need the proper distinction between law and gospel.

You need to have actual Christ being preached, and that's going to require a little bit of assistance by the Holy Spirit. But if the Holy Spirit convict the world of sin, bear witness about Christ, lead people into all truth, glorify Jesus, so you can see then that, as it says in Scripture, the testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy.

That's what it says in the book of Revelation. The testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy. When we do prophecy bingo, I would note the testimony of Christ is far, far away, and all we're hearing is gibberish.

So note then that in the church at Corinth, this church was messed up. I always feel like there's hope for Kongsvinger when I read 1 Corinthians. And the reason being is this. Let's kind of walk through some of the litany of some of the things that were going wrong there.

You had a fellow who was sleeping with his father's wife, and the people there thought, well, we're saved by grace through faith. This is a good thing, right? No. Okay, that's not a good thing. You had the rich in the congregation at Corinth keeping the poor from having the Lord's Supper by consuming the elements to the point where some of them were even getting drunk on the communion wine, which proves it wasn't grape juice.

And so they were legitimately despising and embarrassing the poor in the congregation by doing this. So Paul has to correct that. Along with that, you have people who had the gift of tongues, for real, the gift of tongues, and they were practicing the use of tongues speaking in church without an interpreter.

It was just a crazy church to be in, completely messed up. So Paul, if you read 1 Corinthians, you can see he has to constantly kind of correct things. Now regarding this, regarding this, regarding this, it's a book of corrections.

So concerning spiritual gifts, here we go. I don't want you to be uninformed. You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to mute idols. However, you were led. Therefore, I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says Jesus is accursed.

No one can say Jesus is Lord except in the Holy Spirit. Now, I'm not going to get into the finer details of this. Just suffice it to say, to say that Jesus is Lord is to say that Jesus is God. I would point you to Romans 10 to kind of bear that out.

Now he says this, there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are varieties of service, but the same Lord. So note, right off the bat, we're going to start with this concept, varieties of gifts.

And the point that Paul is making is God, the Holy Spirit, gives gifts for the purpose of building the body of Christ. These are gifts, and the Holy Spirit chooses who gets which gifts. So there are varieties of service, but the same Lord.

There are varieties of activities, but it's the same God who empowers them all and everyone. To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit. Watch this, for the common good. For one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom.

To another, the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit. To another, faith by the same Spirit. To another, gifts of healing by the one Spirit. To another, working of miracles. To another, prophecy.

To another, the ability to distinguish between Spirits. This is what we would call discernment. And to distinguish between Spirits is to be able to sit there and go, that's from God, that's from the devil, and that's from last night's pepperoni pizza with anchovies.

That's a Spirit too, I'm just saying. To another, various kinds of tongues, and here this is talking about languages. We'll see this in Acts 2 when we look at how the Holy Spirit uses a thesaurus. Various kinds of languages.

To another, the interpretation of tongues. All of these are empowered by one in the same Spirit who apportions to each one individually as he wills. Now if you've been in the Pentecostal churches, they have this argument.

God wants you to have your Spirit prayer language. And the true proof that you have been baptized with the Holy Spirit is that it is manifested with you speaking in tongues. And so in their way of thinking, tongues is a universal gift that God the Holy Spirit wants to give to every single Christian.

What I have read so far is this an argument for a uni gift or a variety of gifts?

Variety.

And they will sit there and tell you, well, it's real simple. You ask God, you say, I want to have this gift, and then they misuse a text. They'll sit there and say, Jesus says that if a child asks his father for a sandwich, will he give him a scorpion?

And so you know that if you ask God for the Holy Spirit, he'll give it to you. So he's a good father. Or I wish that you all spake in tongues. Out of context. And so they'll quote these verses and then they'll say, it's really simple.

All you have to do is start. Just turn your mind off and let your tongue go. And I've heard people say, say something like, goo goo, ga ga, and that will prime the pump and get things coming. And then what will come out next is, coulda bought a Honda, shoulda bought a Kia.

Yes.

No, it doesn't. I would know that tongue speakers never had to do that. And there's a function for tongues. We'll get to this as well. Boy, that's a great question. An oral Torah for gifts of the Spirit.

I would, not an official one like you could write down in the Talmuds or something. I would say that there's kind of a mythology that rises around how tongues and the gifts of the Spirit are supposed to work.

And there's kind of a common narrative that works its way through many of the Charismatic and Pentecostal churches. But every pastor kind of puts his own spin on it.

One Body, Many Members, and the Spirit’s Gifts

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay.

So coming back.

All of these are empowered by one and the same Spirit who apportions to each one as He wills. Now, I would note that the Holy Spirit, His pronouns are He. So, just saying. There's a group, there's a splinter group that's gone liberal and rogue that uses the name Reformed.

And they refer to the Holy Spirit using feminine pronouns now. It's just absolutely crazy.

Here we go.

Next part.

Just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. Jews or Greeks, slaves or free, all were made to drink of the one Spirit.

Note the language here, the drinky, the water language here. It's a baptismal reference, okay? For the body does not consist of one member, but of many. If the foot should say, because I'm not a hand, I do not belong to the body, that would not make it any less a part of the body.

And I would note that there are other gifts, you know, spoken of in Scripture regarding the Holy Spirit. One of them being the gift of administration, okay? I think about the men that have served Kongsvinger in my time who legitimately have the gift of administration.

I've jokingly said that Dwayne Clevin has the gift of Excel spreadsheets, okay? But let me tell you, that man's administrative abilities were practically supernatural, the best way I can describe it. And God used that man's gift of administration that the Holy Spirit gave him to carry this congregation through a very rough time, right?

And so, and now, you know, now Stephen Elliott, he's our administrator and he knows what he's doing as well. So that being the case, you'll note that everybody has different gifts. And it's for the purpose of building each other up, of serving the body of Christ.

So just because you don't have one particular gift doesn't somehow mean that your gift that you have isn't important. Paul's argument is that we all work together as the body of Christ. We need these various gifts within the body in order to function as a congregation, in order to function as the body of Christ.

So if the foot should say, because I'm not a hand, I do not belong to the body, that would not make it any less a part of the body. And if the ear should say, because I'm not an eye, I don't belong to the body, that would not make it any less a part of the body.

If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? That's a good question. If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? Starting to catch the point here? So the tongue speakers who are saying that tongues is the universal gift that everybody should have, it doesn't fit, okay?

If you have a body that consists of only tongues, that would be weird, okay? That would be a monstrosity. But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as, here we go again, He chose.

If all were a single member, where would the body be? As it is, there are many parts, yet one body. Huh. Interesting, right? The eye cannot say to the hand, I have no need of you. Nor again, the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable. And on those parts of the body that we think less honorable, we bestow greater honor and our un-presentable parts are treated with greater modesty.

Every time I read this, I sit there and I go, I wonder who our un-presentable members are here at Kongsvinger, right? Which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving greater honor to the part that lacked it, that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.

And here we go again, that they may have the same care for one another. If one member suffers, all suffer together. If one member is honored, all rejoice together. Now you are the body of Christ, individually members of it.

And now we're going to get into a small list of the gifts of the spirit. God has appointed in the church, first, apostles. Second, prophets. Third, teachers. Then miracles. Then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of languages.

And then, you've heard me say this a million times, but I'll put it on record again. Paul then asks a series of questions. And in the Greek, there is an untranslated particle with each of these questions.

And the untranslated particle is the particle, may. Which means every single one of these questions where this particle appears, the question being asked must be answered in the negative.

Okay?

So Paul asks the question, may pontes apostoloi? Are all apostles? Well, because the word may is there, the answer is no. There is no other answer to this than that. Are all prophets? No. Are all teachers?

No. Do all work miracles? No. Do all possess gifts of healing? No. Do all speak with tongues? And you'll note this sentence here, may pontes glosis la lucen? Do all speak with tongues? May is there. The answer is no.

So every single church that says that tongues is a universal gift and it's the sign that you've received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, they are in direct contradiction to the word of God. Not even a little bit.

Right out, 100 contrary to it.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I've seen those videos.

And it's just nonsense.

It's just, it's absolute nonsense. And that's one of the ways that people like John Bevere and others try to get around it. They'll say, oh, well, there's different kinds of tongues.

Okay?

There's prayer tongues, there's tongues, you know, they come up like, he came up with four. I've seen other people come up with like six different kinds. And it's total nonsense. A 100 fabrication. Okay?

No.

I like it, but no.

Okay.

Right.

The answer is it doesn't exist anywhere. What they do is they exegete this idea into the text. You can't actually exegete it out. They exegete it in. And the biblical text doesn't say that. So I remember when I worked at Focus on the Family, Barb and I had just had Josh.

And we moved from Seattle to California because Walter Martin said so.

Okay.

So I went to Concordia University, Irvine because Walter Martin said so. I was doing Greek class and taking apologetics with Dr. Rosenblatt because Walter Martin said so. And I was working part-time at Focus on the Family.