Quantum Particles with Dr. Jason Lisle

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Tonight we're excited to welcome back our friend and fan favorite Dr. Jason Lyle.

Dr Lyle is an astrophysicist and founder of the Biblical Science Institute.

As a perpetual student of the Word of God, he also teaches and writes on other topics such as Herman, the hermeneutics

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But tonight we invite you to put on your thinking caps and pull out your air microscopes, as we travel

from the vast knowledge of God and the great expanse of the heavens down to explore the tiniest theoretical

constructs we believe to exist quantum particles.

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So, with that, Dr Lyle, it's, it's your turn.

Okay, what's good to be with you this evening, virtually, and talk about quantum

particles.

The quantum physics is the, the branch of physics that deals with the very very small, and how,

how the universe behaves at the smallest scale smaller than atoms.

And I think, I guess I guess I'm attracted to the extremes of physics I like the universe because it's as big as

you can get physically and then quantum is as small as you can get in terms of structure the rest is just filler so

I like the extremes I guess.

And although I didn't end up specializing in quantum, when I got my PhD in astrophysics, it's something

that I find very interesting.

And I hope that my enjoyment and interest in the topic will will will be

appreciated I hope that you'll find it interesting and enjoyable as well, because the field is so vast

in terms of the information, quantum mechanics is a wonderful, interesting field, but

it's difficult.

And that's because many of the aspects of quantum particles are counterintuitive.

And so I'm going to have necessity have to limit the topic tonight and I'm just going to limit it to

really elementary particles and some of the ways that they combine an elementary particle is a particle

that is not made of anything smaller.

Hopefully, anyone I think who's graduated from high school would know that we're made of molecules and then molecules are made of atoms,

atoms are made of electrons circling around the exterior and then the nucleus you got protons and neutrons.

And those atoms are composite particles because they're made of something smaller, but there are particles

that the Lord created that as far as we can tell are not made of anything smaller.

And so those are the particles that I'm going to discuss this evening, and I'll give you just enough of the

background of quantum mechanics that you need to know to be able to understand these particles obviously there's a lot more that I could cover but

I rehearsed this a couple times and went far longer than you will want to listen to me so, and I have some

illustrations to I think that will make this a little more tractable.

So here we have an illustration this is a illustrate schematic of a helium atom so you have the electrons

there's two and a helium atom if it's neutral, and they're orbiting around the nucleus, this is not to scale the

nucleus actually would be invisible at this scale it's very tiny compared to the size of the atom.

And then the, the protons and neutrons in the nucleus of that atom are also composite

they're made of smaller particles called quarks.

And so our goal this evening is to introduce you to the elementary particles that are known or

suspected to exist.

There are only 38.

And these are, these are the elementary particles that we know to exist and one has not yet been experimentally

detected.

But, yeah, so that's it.

And already you can see that they're not random they're, they're organized

into the I can organize them into this chart because they fall into natural sort of families and families

of families.

And that's one of the takeaways that I want you to get from this presentation is that the particles

that God created and allows to exist and they can they can transform into other particles but it's always

these 38, these are the 38 particles that as far as we know are made of nothing smaller.

Already you can see that they're divided into two broad families bosons and for me on so you can see that at the top

there just under elementary particles.

Those are the two major families within the family of fermions there are two or four families

depending on how you look at it you have leptons and quarks then you have anti leptons and anti quarks.

And then under the bosons there are sort of five families of bosons four of which are are

connected to fundamental forces, and then there's the Higgs boson and it's just weird it's kind of, it's kind of an outlier it's there,

but nonetheless these particles exist, and the way they exist makes life possible, and it shows

something about the creativity of God.

Obviously the particles don't look like this, this is just a schematic to help us kind of remember it, and I use colors to indicate

things like electric charge, just kind of gives us something visual.

I'm a visual learner so hopefully that's helpful to you as well.

And so there are three takeaways that I want you to get tonight because as we study these particles, the

details, they're fascinating, but it gets complicated.

And so I don't want you to get lost in the details there are three takeaways that if at any point you

say I didn't quite follow that.

Make sure you get these three takeaways.

First of all, elementary particles exist in a nested hierarchy, a nested hierarchy hierarchy means there's, there's

an orderliness to us like a family tree, but it's a nested hierarchy you can have families within families.

And that's significant because in the world of biology, you can also do that taxonomy, that's all

about classifying organisms and we find that they occur in a nested hierarchy which is why you can, we can have you know

kingdom file in class order family genus species and you can have organisms that are in the same family but they're,

you know, different genus and so on.

You can do that with quantum particles too.

And I find that interesting because secularists evolutionists like to say that the nested

hierarchy we see in the world of biology is due to evolution.

And that's the only explanation for it is the reason we can organize organisms into

similarities and differences families families of families is because they have evolved from a common ancestor through

gradual changes over millions of years of reproduction.

You can't do that with particles because there are only 38 elementary particles, that's it.

And they don't evolve electrons do not gradually you know they don't reproduce and then gradually gain

weight until they eventually become a muon particles particles unlike animals can decay they

can change into other particles instantly but it's always some combination of the 38 particles that exist,

everything in the physical universe is made of those 38 particles, or some combination thereof.

So, that is a powerful demonstration that the evolutionists are wrong that a nested hierarchy can only be

explained by evolution, you can't do that with particles.

Secondly, the particles, the properties of these particles are highly mathematical in nature.

Some of these particles were predicted to exist on the basis of math, before they were discovered.

I think that's wild.

You can't do that in biology.

Nobody predicted the existence of an elephant based on some equation, but there are particles that were

predicted to exist on the basis of a solution to an equation that were subsequently discovered

empirically experimentally and confirmed.

I think that's amazing.

The positron was predicted to exist before it was discovered the top quark was predicted to exist on the basis

of math and secularist can't really explain why the universe of based math at all.

And it gets particularly sticky when we deal with quantum particles that are so highly mathematical we can actually predict in many cases

which kinds exist.

That's pretty neat.

And that makes sense in a Christian worldview because God's mind upholds the universe, and God thinks mathematically.

That's why math applies to the physical universe.

And then third, the properties of these particles are exactly right for chemistry and biology

for chemistry to be what it is and therefore biology for that to be possible.

I'm not big on fine tuning arguments.

There's nothing wrong with them I just tend not to use them because normally it's hard to say what the range

is like the earth is the right distance from the sun for life that's true.

But how, how precise is it if we if we move the earth 5 % closer could life still survive.

If we move it 10 % further away, could life still survive.

That's hard to estimate because whether climate it's complex, and the

robustness of life is complex, but with particles because because quantum particles obey

these math equations perfectly, we can tell what they would be like if they were a little bit different if you made the

up quark a little bit more massive we can tell what it would do.

And we know that in many instances life wouldn't be possible if these things were just a little bit different from the way they are.

And so it really gives you a glimpse into the magnificence of the mind of God to think of all these interactions

in such a way that makes the universe the way he wants it to be remarkable.

So those are the takeaways.

And so let's get into some of the, some of the details I guess one of the things that that I need to start

with, is the properties of quantum particles they often have mass.

We have a feel for that we understand mass, you know if you if you're more massive you weigh more on the scale and so on.

Particles can quantum particles can have mass although some of them do not have mass, there are massless quantum particles where if you were

to stop them, they would weigh nothing like particles of light photons have no rest mass.

And there are other particles that likewise have no rest mass some of them, however, are very massive.

So that's one of the properties of quantum particles.

Another is charge, they can have electric charge, like the electron has a negative

electric charge.

The, the proton has a positive charge or the proton is composite it's made of particles that have charge and so on.

So those are some of the properties of those ones we kind of have some familiarity with, because we, if you've ever played with magnets you

know something about, you know, North attracts South and so on.

And that's a, that's an aspect of the electric electromagnetic field particles can also have a thing

called spin.

And one of the neat things about quantum is a lot of the terminology we use are very basic English words I really like

that it's not like in biology where everything's Latin.

If you know English you can you can talk about quantum mechanics particles have spin which means yeah they they can rotate

they can spin.

And that should be obvious with things like molecules that think of a water molecule it's got the big oxygen there and the two

hydrogens, I can hit that thing on the right side and it sure enough it'll spin, because it has size to

it and so it can it can rotate.

But one of the things that's interesting about quantum quantum particles is that many properties of these particles

are quantized.

That's where we get the word quantum.

And that basically means they come in certain discrete levels but nothing in between.

And that is caused by the wave nature of matter and I don't want to get into too many details of this but the

reason that electrons, for example, can only orbit in certain shells around an atom and not in between,

is because of their wave nature.

So, electron acts kind of like a wave, at times, with peaks and troughs, and the

distances where it can orbit or distances where the circumference is an integer number of wavelengths so when

the electron comes back so so the electron is like say a peak when it's here, when it comes back around it's a peak again.

That works.

If you made the orbit different where the peak, when it comes around the next time would be a trough, it would cancel out, and so the electron

could not exist.

That's why orbits are quantized.

And a lot of properties of quantum particles are quantized including spin.

So, it's true I can spin that water molecule I can give it a little more energy it'll spin a little bit more.

But we'll find that it's quantized in that a particle of water molecule can spin at a rate of

three, whatever, rotations per unit time or two or one or zero

I can stop it, but it can't orbit at one half, it can't rotate it a half or three halves or anything

like that.

Spin is quantized.

And so it's quantized into these integer units.

And it turns out that quantum particles, also have spin.

And let's see if I have a little illustration of this.

The.

So here we have electrons for example these are supposed to be electrons, and a depiction of them, and

they can they can rotate, and we talked about the direction of their rotation, using the right hand rule so if they're

spinning.

If you take your right hand and curl your fingers in the way that the particle is spinning the

direction of your thumb is, is the direction of the spin so spin up would be a particle like

you see on the, on the left there and then the right is spin down and so on.

So, molecules can spin that way, elementary particles particles that are not made of anything smaller can spin.

And this is weird.

For four reasons.

First of all, as far as we can tell, elementary particles have no size.

Every experiment that's tried to detect, you know, size to these particles I've depicted them as little spheres but technically

their points.

But, but of course I can't depict the point because it has no size.

How can something that has no size rotate.

I mean a sphere yeah you can you push on this side and you pull on that side it rotates, because it has sides, a point doesn't have

sides it's just a point.

And so how can it rotate.

Well it really can't, it's best to think about these elementary particles as having something that is

mathematically like rotation, they have a little bit of built in angular momentum.

Despite the fact that they don't have any size.

So that's the, that's one weird aspect of these quantum particles and all elementary particles

have spin associated with them, except the Higgs boson, it does not spin.

The second weird thing is that with a molecule, I can speed up or slow down the spin by giving it energy or

removing energy.

And now it's quantized I can, you know, increase it from two to three to four to five I can't go in between.

But with elementary particles they are born spinning and you cannot change the amount of spin.

For example, a photon a particle of light has a spin of one, and you cannot change that, that

you can't make it zero you can't make it to all photons have a spin of one they're born spinning as, so to speak,

and there's nothing that can change that.

That's kind of weird.

The amount of spin cannot be changed the direction can.

If you have a photon that's that spin up because it's been in this way.

There are conditions where I can rotate it make it spin down that that we can do, but the amount of the spin cannot

be changed, it's apparently set by God, and is built into particles and it affects their behavior.

So, we can we can redirect the spin we can change a particle from spin up to spin down but we can affect the amount of spin.

Third, the third word property of spin is the.

When we talk about the direction of the spin.

It's quantized in that when we measure the spin state of a particle like an electron the two that you

see there, it will either be spin up or spin down.

You might think of it as, you know, what can it be this way, not when you measure it, whenever you measure it, it'll either be aligned

with your detector spin up or anti aligned spin down.

What if I rotate the director at 40, you know the detector at a 45 degree angle, then it'll be spin up or spin down.

That's just part of the weirdness of quantum mechanics.

And then the fourth thing that's really strange is that many elementary particles are born with the spin,

that is impossible for us to achieve in that it's a half integer electrons for example have a spin

that is a half.

Now we can't get a molecule to go to a half molecule can be one or two or three or zero, we can't get it to be a

half and yet many of the particles that God created are born spinning at a rate that is impossible because it's halfway in

between two integers.

So particles in the quantum world can have a spin of a half or three halves or five halves, or they can

have a spin that's an integer.

And that's weird, basically, at least I think it's weird that's part of the weirdness of it.

And based on the way these particles spin whether it's an integer which is kind of what we'd expect or a half integer which seems

impossible.

That will affect the behavior of the particles, so much that that's the first division in

terms of the family of these elementary particles elementary particles are divided into fermions or

bosons.

A fermion is a particle that has a half integer spin one half three halves five halves, something that's

exactly in between two integers.

And as far as we know spins can't be anything less than that it can't be like a fourth or a third, but you can have half

spins, but it's built into the particle.

So that would be fermions.

And then bosons are particles that have an integer spin, like particles of light, photons,

or bosons, and so because they have a spin of one.

Electrons, which are fundamental elementary particles they have a spin of one half.

And that causes them to either obey or disobey a particular rule called the Pauli exclusion principle.

Fermions obey it, bosons disobey it.

The Pauli exclusion principle says that you can't have two identical particles in the same

quantum state.

At the same time, what's a quantum state.

The same place, same energy level same spin state.

Okay, and so if I if I have an electron here and it's and it's it's spin up and I tried to put another electron in that same location same

energy level that's also spin up.

Nature will not allow it.

It can't be done.

And that is why the lowest energy shell in an atom contains two

electrons and no more, you know how atoms have these shells of electrons.

You can only put two in that bottom shell, because one of them will be spin up the other will be spin

down.

If I try to put a third in there it'll either be spin up or spin down and you'll have two that are both spin up or both spin down.

That's forbidden by the Pauli exclusion principle.

So that the Pauli exclusion principle, combined with the fact that electrons or fermions

is why all chemistry is possible.

Because bosons do not obey that rule.

You can put as many bosons in the same quantum state as you want.

Photons, you can put as many photons in the same quantum state.

That's what a laser is.

A laser is multiple photons existing at kind of at the same place at the same time, the same energy level.

And, and you can do that with light, you can't do that with electrons.

So, had God made the electron had he given it a spin of one.

Instead of, instead of a spin of one half, then electrons would be bosons they would disobey the Pauli exclusion

principle.

And you could put as many electrons into that low lowest energy level in that as you want, which

means chemistry would be impossible, the periodic table would not exist, you can have, you can have multiple atoms

but they all would act chemically like hydrogen, because all the electrons would drop into that lowest energy

level.

So it's just weird this this just because the electron spins at a half rather than one or zero is

part of what makes chemistry possible, which I think is kind of amazing.

So it's just one of the things that God thought about when he's creating this universe.

So bosons do not obey that Pauli exclusion principle in fact they go out of their way to disobey, they're just rebels.

But, so we're going to start with looking at the elementary fermions, and this will take the most time especially when I

get to quarks.

So if we're still on quarks and you're like, oh my he's taking way too long.

The bosons will go really fast.

So we're going to take the most time with these because there's some introductory material here that needs to be explained.

So the elementary fermions contain two families leptons and quarks, or if you will four

because there's anti leptons and anti quarks.

And we're gonna start with the leptons because they're easiest and you already know one, the electron.

The electron is the lightest charged lepton, the word lepton means light ones,

not light like photons but light in the sense of not heavy, very low mass leptons are very low

mass, except for the towel.

That's the one exception.

And it wasn't discovered yet when they gave the name leptons all the existing known leptons were light at

that time.

The electron you can see on this table here it has a mass.

That is why I gave it I gave two different units for the mass I gave kilograms because that's something we're kind of

familiar with your you might know your weight, you know person might weigh 80 kilograms, and it's tech that's

your mass actually but.

And so the electron by comparison is 9 .1 times 10 to the negative 31st power kilograms,

so it's very low mass.

And because these particles.

All these quantum particles are low mass compared to the stuff we deal with every day we tend to use different units we tend to use

MEV, MEV is million electron volts.

That's actually unit of energy we divide by c squared to make it a unit of mass, and so electron is 0 .5

MEV that's pretty light for an elementary particle most particles are heavier than that.

So you know about electrons they are elementary as far as we know, you may not, you may not have known the electron has a big brother

called a muon.

A muon is identical in every way to an electron, except it's 200 times heavier.

For whatever reason, it's just it's just heavier than an electron.

And, but all the other properties of the same they all have a spin of one half all leptons do the three on the top

row, all have a charge of negative one so so does the muon.

And the towel the towels and even bigger heavier version, and it weighs 1 .7 billion

electron volts, which is quite heavy.

Well it's heavy for a lepton that that's about twice the mass of a proton.

So there you go.

The electron, on the other hand, is almost 2000 times less

massive than a proton.

That's why the electrons zip around the outside of the atom and the proton just wiggle slightly because it most of the

masses in the center of the atom so electrons don't contribute very much to your mass.

It's primarily the protons and neutrons that do.

There are neutral versions of each of these three particles that you see on the top and they're indicated on the bottom table you have,

and they're called neutrinos neutrino means little neutral one.

There's, there's a neutrino version of electron electron neutrino there's a muon neutrino and there's a town neutrino.

So they're just neutral versions of the charged leptons that you see in the top.

And one other difference is they're extremely low mass, less than

less than one electron volt.

Okay electron is point 5 million electron volts neutrinos are less than one electron volt for a long time

physicists thought they were completely massless like photons.

But we now know because of the math that they obey that they must have a small finite amount of mass but we don't know exactly what it

is.

And so we just know that it's, we know that it's very small.

The neat thing about neutrinos is they're kind of like the ghosts of particles because they can pass through

ordinary matter.

And in fact, right now, every second about a trillion neutrinos are passing right through

your thumb.

They're produced in the core of the sun, one of the byproducts of fusion is neutrinos, they stream straight out through the

bulk of the sun.

And then stream out into space and some of them are intersecting your body right now they're completely harmless, but nonetheless there are trillions of

neutrinos passing through your body, every second, doesn't matter if it's day or night, you might think well the earth would block

them it doesn't because if it's nighttime, they come from the sun they go straight through the earth and then come up out of the earth and go through you and

harmlessly out into space.

Pretty remarkable.

Why do they do that.

The answer is because atoms are mostly empty space.

If I had the the nucleus of an atom, being kind of the head of a pin.

The electron shell would be larger than this room.

So atoms are mostly empty space and so when that neutrinos zipping by it likely

misses one of the two electrons because they have no size anyway and they're zipping around.

And then unless it hits that nucleus, which is very unlikely it's just going to pass right through that atom right

through the next atom and so on and so forth.

So of course, they pass through matter, because matters mostly empty space.

In fact, statistically a neutrino can pass through about 20 trillion miles of solid

lead before it is likely to actually impact either the nucleus or one of the electrons.

So it's it neutrinos just don't care about any other particles they just do their own thing they stream

harmlessly through the universe.

They're very difficult to detect for that reason.

And the only way we can detect them is when they do occasionally hit hit either the nucleus of an atom

or the electron in an atom so pretty neat and that make might make you wonder why doesn't everything do that, because why doesn't the

electron.

I mean it's got no size as well why doesn't it slip through an atom and the answer is the electron is charged.

It's got that negative charge.

And so long before it gets to the atom it can already feel the negative charge of another electron there and they repel each other.

So the reason that electrons muons and towels don't pass through matters they're charged there.

They are mutually repelled by the electrons in the end.

Now if you haven't heard about muons or towels that's because they're not very common.

And that's because they disintegrate very quickly they decay.

Many elementary particles are what we call unstable they will decay, which means they spontaneously change

into some other combination of particles.

The muon for example will decay into an electron, and also an electron and a neutrino and a muon

neutrino, so it produces other particles in the process.

Generally, it's the heavier particles that do that heavier particles will decay into lighter particles, if they can.

We also need to know about anti leptons then so the leptons are at the top, these are the symbols that are used for them so

the electron is a lowercase e with a little subscript or superscript of a minus sign.

And then, and then the neutrinos are indicated by the Greek letter new looks kind of like a V it's a new

with a subscript indicating which species of neutrino the electron neutrino the muon and the towel.

And then you have anti particles you've heard of anti matter, that's just like matter but the charges are reversed.

They're not as common but you can you can have anti electrons, and I use blue to indicate

negative charge so red indicates positive charge an anti electron also called a positron.

It's identical to an electron except the charges flipped.

So it's positively charged instead of negative.

And likewise, you have an anti muon and you have an anti towel, and you have three anti neutrinos, and you

might be wondering how are anti neutrinos different from neutrinos since they're both neutral.

And the answer is they might not be in some theories of physics neutrinos and anti neutrinos are identical

in other models of physics, they are, they can be distinguished.

Because one is sort of a mirror reflection of the other even though the charge is both zero.

So there's your anti anti left times.

We're going to find that when particles decay or when you when you create new particles from energy, which we can do in particle

accelerators.

There are certain things that God allows to change and certain things God does not allow to change.

The particular flavor of left on can change flavors what we refer to as the different

members of that family.

So there's six flavors of left on six flavors of anti left times.

God allows them to change the muon can be can decay into an electron.

But when that happens, there are certain things that God does not allow to change.

For example, the total charge can't change the total energy can't change.

There's another conserved property called left on number it can't change either the left times have a left each left on has a

left on number of plus one anti left times have a left on number of negative one.

And what that means is if I take energy and create a new left on which we can do from energy.

You have to also produce an anti left time because the total left on number has to be zero before and after.

And so there are these conservation rules I'm not going to go through all these, because they get a little bit meaty but I will point

out that mass and energy is always conserved therefore particles can only decay

into less massive particles.

So a muon can decay, and this is the way a muon decays.

So on the left, that's the muon.

And on the right is what it decays into you don't have to do anything in it and it decays quickly it's a fraction of a second.

It will that muon, they have a very limited life they last a fraction of a second and almost immediately decay

into those three particles and electron and electron muon neutrino and electron anti neutrino.

And those, if you add the mass of those three particles, it's less than the mass of the muon, you might think, where did the

extra mass go, it went into the energy of those neutrinos.

So that's one of the rules is that massive particles can only decay into less massive particles,

because that conserves mass energy, the total charge has to be conserved.

What's the charge before it's negative one, what's the charge afterward you add up the charge of the three particles is still

negative one, because two of them are neutral.

The total spin state has to be conserved muons have a spin of a half, let's say it's spin

up so it'd be plus one half.

You add up the spins of the particles after you see one of the spin down so it's negative a half.

So a half plus a half minus a half is a half.

And so the total spin states conserved and the lepton numbers conserved, because the muon has a lepton number of one.

So does the electron and the muon neutrino but then the anti neutrino has a lepton number of negative one.

My point in this all this bookkeeping, you can figure out which particles decay.

And in many cases, how they would have to decay.

Just by following these conservation laws.

So, because, because these particles obey math, we can predict how they decay in many instances.

And so for example muons and taus muons and tau particles are unstable they they

are massive and so they will decay into less massive particles but the electron.

The electron is the least massive charged particle, and therefore it cannot decay.

Because you might say, well, maybe, could it decay into electron neutrino that's lighter.

Yes, but it wouldn't conserve charge.

It's got to dump that negative charge and there's no way to do it because there are no less massive charged particles than

electron therefore it, it has to be stable.

And you can be grateful for that because you've got all kinds of electrons circling the atoms of your body which makes

chemistry right and so it's very good that electrons don't decay.

You can make an atom with with muons instead of electrons, but that muon decays very quickly

and one of the particles that decays into is an electron, so the neutrinos are stable, but they have the

peculiar ability to oscillate they can switch from one flavor to another, back and forth only neutrinos do that as far as we know, and

anti neutrinos.

And if you're wondering, how do, how do we know anything about these particles, especially things like muons and tells that last only a

fraction of a second and they're gone.

The answer is, they can collide particles, they can collide particles together in particle accelerators

and from the energy of that collision.

These particles are produced muons tells, and they stream away from the collision site, and

they enter what's called a cloud chamber.

And it looks something like that they leave little trails.

There's material in the cloud chamber and when, when these particles pass through the cloud chamber they leave a visible trail.

Now this is almost instantaneous but we can take a picture of it.

And so we can we can study it later.

And physicists will put a magnetic field over that cloud chamber.

The, and when a charged particles in a magnetic field it will spiral.

And by measuring the size of the spiral, you can determine the mass and the charge of the particle that produced

it.

So it's pretty amazing that there's more to it than that but that's partly how physicists figure out these particles that

have only a fleeting existence that lasts just a fraction of a second.

So we've covered leptons and anti leptons.

Now we're going to move on to quarks and anti quarks.

Quarks are a little bit harder but on the one hand, they're very similar because they, they're also that just as there are

six species of six flavors of leptons there are six flavors of quarks.

Three generations with two in each generation, there they are.

So, but there are some differences and the first one that stands out is that quarks have

fractional electric charge.

Quarks and anti quarks are the only particles, as far as we know that have a fractional electric charge.

The, the up quark, which is the first one you see there in the upper left has a charge of plus two

thirds.

The down quark just below it has a charge of negative one third.

So it's the same type of charges electron but only one third the amount, very strange and composite

particles don't do that.

Composite particles always have an integer charge might be zero, but it's always an integer so they have fractional charge that's

kind.

Of weird.

They tend to be a lot heavier than the leptons, with the possible exception of the Tao.

If you look at the up quark there I've got the mass listed, and it gets a little complicated with quarks,

usually there are two masses listed for a quark using same unit so something weird is going on there, either 2

.2 million electron volts or 336 million volts.

The reason for that is that quarks have kind of an energy field surrounding them.

And that energy has mass associated with it and most of the mass at least for the lighter generations of

quarks comes from that field.

If you could somehow separate the quark from its own field, it wouldn't weigh very much at all like the up quark would only be 2

.2 MeV that's called the current mass, but you really can't do that you can't separate the quark from its field and so

the what I think of as the real mass is called the constituent mass.

So for an up quark it's the 336 million electron volts, the down quarks just a little heavier

340 million electron volts.

That will turn out to be important later.

That's a design feature.

The next quark to be discovered was called the strange quark again I love the names, it just makes it easier to remember the

strange quark little heavier, heavier yet is the charm quark.

And at that point physicists had realized that these quarks fit it fit into a natural mathematical progression and

they were able to predict the next to the bottom quark I believe was predicted and the top quark was predicted to exist and they were

both subsequent subsequently discovered so again, particles that are predicted to exist on the basis of math,

which I think is really cool.

The top quark is unbelievably massive, it is the heaviest elementary particle

weighing in at 177 billion electron volts, very, very massive.

And the bottom quark is nothing to be scoffed at it's 4 .7 billion electron volts so pretty impressive.

We're made of primarily the up and down quarks we'll find that the protons and neutrons are made of those two varieties,

but the other ones are interesting and they tell us something about physics.

The reason that quarks are more complicated than leptons is because quarks always

group together with other quarks.

You can't study a quark in isolation, and because they always come in these conglomerations, that makes

them a little tricky to study we have to study the particles they make up, and then figure out the properties of the quarks

from that.

So that makes them a little more difficult you can think of quarks as the extroverts of the universe, they have to be around

other quarks they can't they hate isolation, they have to be around other quarks there's a reason for that that we'll see a little bit later

on, leptons, they don't care leptons are introverts they can, I mean, they might hang around

with a conglomeration of quarks like electron orbiting around a proton but it kind of keeps us distance.

And you get the neutrinos which are just downright anti social, they don't interact with anything including each other unless there's a direct

collision.

So that's the only way you can get a neutrino to talk to you but the quarks.

They stick around other quarks, they all they will all they always form composite particles.

And the interesting thing is, even though the quarks have a fractional charge, the composite particles they form

always have an integer charge, which is really weird.

I mean it's really strange, but they'll only group in such a way to produce a particle of the charge of one or two or negative one

or zero, even though the quarks themselves have fractional charge.

The when, when quarks group into a larger particle that particle is called a hadron.

So if you've heard of the large hadron collider, they're, they're colliding particles that are made of quarks and bashing

them together to see what comes out of that.

There are two ways primarily in which quarks will group into composite particles so there are two types of

hadrons.

The first is baryons, and they are made of a combination of exactly three quarks, no more no less.

Quarks tend to like to group in groups of three is how they get their name.

More on that later.

The other way they can do it is you can have one quark and an anti quark.

And so you just have two of them but one and anti, and that forms a particle called a meson.

So let's start with baryons, then, and we'll take a look at those so baryons, you should like

baryons because you're made of them.

The protons and neutrons in the nucleus again we have a helium atom here depicted you can see the nucleus there we zoom in

on that it's got two protons always, and usually two neutrons in a helium nucleus.

The protons are made of three quarks, each proton is made of three quarks, each neutron is made of three quarks.

And it all works out if you if you take a look at which quarks are there, the proton is made of two up quarks and one down

quark.

And remember the up quarks have a charge of plus two thirds so add that up plus two thirds plus two thirds four thirds and then the down

quark is minus one third it adds up to plus one.

So that's why protons have a charge of plus one, the neutrons to down quarks so that'd be minus a third

minus a third that's minus two thirds and then the up quark plus two thirds charges zero.

So neutrons are electrically neutral, even though they're made of particles that are not, it's just the charges cancel out.

So that is basically what protons and neutrons would look like if you could kind of see the particles that

comprise them.

Now, when you when particles combine this way their spin states add and I do have to point out you know how

particles quarks can be spin up or spin down.

That has nothing to do with the name up quark or down quark.

Those are just names, an up quark can either be spin up or spin down a down quark can be spin up or spin down it doesn't matter.

But it has to be one of the two, because they are spin half fermions, so it has to be up or down spin plus one half or

spin minus one half.

But the spins add.

And with protons and neutrons.

One of the quarks will always have the opposite spin of the other two quarks prefer when they group together to have

opposite spin states.

That's what they like, but when there's three of them, two of them are going to have to have the same spin state just by logic.

So, so the proton and we don't know which two it'll be and I've depicted the proton here is having the two up quarks

with an up spin state.

And the down quark with a down spin state but you don't know which it'll be and in fact they can swap their spin

states, but those add up.

Plus one half plus one half minus one half, those add up to a total spin of one half.

So protons and neutrons have a spin of one half, the spins of their subsequent particles add or

subtract if they're in the opposite direction and likewise with the neutron there.

So, these two particles are part of the very own family called the nucleon, they're the only two members

of that family nucleons are made of only up and down quarks and have a spin of one half.

And we should be grateful for them because that's what we're made of, we're made of nucleons.

There are six families of Barry on these are the lightest to the proton is the lightest Barry on the neutron is the

second lightest least massive.

One other thing that is, it might be bothering you a little bit is, why do these quarks stick together because the

up quark and you can see the up quark and the down quark sticking together they have opposite electric charge, but what keeps the two up quarks

together.

And the fact that they both have pot, I mean they're charges twice as much, they have two thirds whereas the down is just negative one

third you'd think they'd blow themselves apart.

Physicists recognize this early on and realized that there must be another force that is even

stronger than the electric force that is somehow binding those quarks together.

And we call this the strong force, because, again, quantum

physicists are not very creative apparently with with language, and that's fine or the nuclear strong force sometimes.

It is the force that is greater than electromagnetism and keeps those quirks glued together to form that

stable Barry on.

So the other thing that's

interesting is if you add up the mass of the up quark, it's a 336

another up quark 336 and 340 that comes out as over 1000.

And yet if you look at the mass on the table that the proton is 938.

What happened to that little extra bit of mass.

Well that binding force between those three quirks.

That's a negative energy because it would, it would take you'd have to add energy to remove the quirks away from that system because

it's an attractive force.

And that, because it's so strong, that energy is so much it manifests as negative mass.

It actually it's called mass defect or mass deficit, it reduces the mass of the system a little bit and so

it's often the case that composite particles have less mass than the sum of their constituents, which I think

is kind of interesting.

So, the other thing you might find interesting is the half life.

A lot of Barry ons are unstable they will decay into other particles, but the proton well the proton

has an infinite half life, it is stable, for which we can be grateful if it weren't you would disintegrate

with whatever the half life is a protons because you're made of lots of protons.

The neutron however, is a little bit unstable.

It's got a half life of 611 seconds.

It's about 10 minutes, little over 10 minutes.

And that is really weird for two reasons.

One, almost all other quantum particles that if they're going to decay.

They decay in the tiniest fraction of a second some, some quantum particles last a few

millionths of a billionth of a billionth of a second, and they're gone.

And most of them have a half life you know that's much less than a second with a neutron is like 10 minutes, so it's just kind of a

weird half life for for a particle.

And then the other thing you might be concerned about that wait a minute aren't there a lot of neutrons in the atoms of my body yes,

the oxygen atom for example has eight neutrons and eight protons.

Long story short, when neutrons are bound to protons that has a stabilizing influence on them

neutron by itself is unstable if it's part of a nucleus that can make it stable.

I won't get into the details of that, but I think it's interesting that neutrons by themselves are unstable

and their half lives like 10 minutes.

Weird.

The reason that neutrons can decay is because they're a little heavier than the proton in fact they will decay into a proton

releasing.

What would it be an electron and electron anti neutrino as part of the process to conserve charge energy left on number.

So it's because the neutrons a little heavier it can decay into a proton, and the neutrons a little heavier because it has to

down quarks, and the down quark is just a little heavier than the up quark.

If it weren't, if God had made the up quark slightly heavier than the down quark,

then the neutron would be lighter than the proton and the neutron would be stable and the proton would be unstable

and would decay into a neutron.

And that would be a problem because the most abundant element in the universe is ordinary hydrogen,

which is just a proton with electron orbiting it, which means ordinary hydrogen, which is 90 of the

universe could not exist for more than about 10 minutes before half of it would have decayed into neutrons.

What are stars made of hydrogen gas was the sun made of hydrogen gas.

So you couldn't have stars and the sun, if God had made the up quark a little heavier than the down

quark rather than the reverse.

So it's just amazing the, the, the thought that God put into this to get these particles to be the way they

are.

You can have delta particles.

These are three quarks that have, they're made up of up and down quarks but they're all spin aligned.

And so, deltas have a spin of three halves.

And therefore they're fermions but a little bit weird.

And because they're spin aligned that that's a higher energy state it gives them a little extra mass.

So you have the delta plus plus which is a plus two charge plus two particle the delta plus the

delta plus is identical in composition to the proton.

The only difference is the proton has one of the quarks anti aligned with the other two with the delta they're all aligned.

And that is a very unstable state.

So if you look at the half life of these things 3 .9 times 10 to the negative 24 seconds.

So again, that's, you know, four millionths of a billionth of a billionth of a second.

They do not last long and they usually decay into protons and neutrons anyway.

There are other families there lambda particles where you have the up and the down and then

one of the heavier quarks like a stranger a charm or a bottom work.

There are three other families and they have many members so I'm just giving you one illustration of each.

These are all unstable all baryons are unstable except the proton, and maybe the neutron if it's in combination

with the proton.

And that's because baryon number is conserved baryons, when they decay, they can only decay into another baryon.

And since massive particles can only decay into lighter ones, and since the proton is the lightest baryon, it cannot

decay.

Same reason the electron doesn't.

And so the, the particles that you're made of God made them stable, either stable all by themselves like the proton electron,

or they're stable because of their proximity to protons like the neutron.

I want to talk a little bit about the strong force that is stronger than the electromagnetic repulsion that exists between those two

that's holding the three quarks together because it's interesting.

With the electric force, there are two charges, which we label as positive and negative.

Those are the two types of electric charge, when you have zero but in terms of the actual charge positive or negative.

With the strong force there are six types of charge, that makes it a little harder, but we can't just say

positive and negative because there's, there's not, you know, three positives and three negatives.

So what physicists do is they use colors they assign a color to each of these particles.

And so these are the six colors of the strong force the six charges.

Now this has nothing to do with literal color it's not like they're really these colors it's just when we talk about the

charge associated with the strong forces there six of them.

We refer to them as red, green, blue, anti red, anti green, anti blue.

The anti's are just the complimentary color of the regular red, green and blue.

So those are the six charges of the strong force, and it gets a little complicated because, you know,

with positive and negative, if they're opposite they attract if they're the same they repel, but what do you do when there's six charges,

it's a little harder.

I will tell you that like charges repel so red will repel red, a red quark and a red quark will

strongly repel each other.

But what about the intermediates what about red and green and red and anti red and red and anti red will attract, but what about red

and green turns out that quarks always come in one of these three colors.

Red, green and blue anti quarks come in one of the other three anti red anti green anti blue.

And so they're, they're limited they don't have all six options they'd have three, three of the six, and any quark

can have any one of those colors the up quark could be red or green or blue the down quark could be red or green or blue.

When they combine into a very on.

It's always the case that one quark will be read.

One will be green, and one will be blue.

So if you could see color charge.

That's what it would look like for every berry on that exists, regardless of whether the quark is an up quark or down or a stranger charm

or whatever.

So, there you go, which tells you that that must be attractive right the red will

attract green red will attract blue, blue will attract red blue will attract green, green will attract red green will attract

blue they're mutually attractive.

This has to be the color combination for Barry on, because if one of them had the same color, it would blow

itself apart because if they say to the quirks for read they would repel and like charges

repel very strongly so it would it would blow itself apart, so all Barry ons all

Barry ons have one red quark one green one blue, the individual quirks can swap their colors but the

combinations always read green blue, always.

And one of the reasons that we use color to indicate these charges is because the way these charges, and

is exactly the same way literal visual colors and like if I take a red spotlight, a green spotlight a blue

spotlight and shine them on the same place, I get white or neutral, right.

It's the same way when when you have a when you have a composite particle that has one green quark one red quark and one blue quark the

overall color of the particle is white or neutral.

So it turns out, all composite particles are color neutral they're all white, all of them.

And that's because Barry ons will only group one red one green and one blue that's the only combination that works for

them.

So that's called color confinement.

And likewise with the anti colors I don't think we'll go into too much more on that but anti Barry ons always have anti

red anti green anti blue, only that combination and those also combined to make white.

So all composite particles are white or color neutral.

And that is why the strong force is limited to within the range of you know the the

quirks within a proton because this proton over here, this proton over here, although they have colored

particles the overall color is white, so there's no strong force between them if there's any distance between them.

So that is why your hand doesn't collapse into your other hand and form a black hole, even though the strong forces there.

All the particles that make up your hand in terms of the composite particles are color neutral.

It also explains why quarks are extroverts because that strong force is incredibly powerful, it is

the strongest of the four fundamental forces hence the name.

Leptons, they don't have color charge electrons neutrinos, they're

white color neutral, they do not feel the strong force.

They go next to a quark they don't care.

They just zip right by it quarks however and anti quarks do have color charge and therefore feel the strong force.

So we've been looking at quarks anti quarks are just like quarks but the charges are reversed.

And that means not only the electric charge, but also the color charge the strong force charge so

a quark can be red green or blue and anti quark has to be anti red anti green anti blue.

And then the charges are opposite so an up quark has a charge of plus two thirds and anti up anti quark has

a charge of negative two thirds so they're just they're just flipped.

They're just exactly backwards.

And so we've seen how quarks can form into three quarks can form a baryon or three

anti quarks can form an anti baryon, that works.

And then the other combination is a quark and anti quark, and that forms a particle called a mason.

So masons are just two particles.

And it's always the case that it will be red anti red green anti green or blue anti blue.

Red and anti green do not attract in fact they repel.

So, that means masons are also color neutral.

And it has to be one of those color combinations, the latest masons are called pions there's about 10 families of

masons, the latest is the pion it was the first discovered.

It's made of an up, they're made up of up and down quarks and anti quarks, one of each.

So you have the positive pion which is an up quark and a down anti quark, you have the negative

pion on the right, that's a down quark and up anti quark.

And then for the neutral pion you can have an up and an anti up or a down and an anti down, and they can even flip back and forth between those two

states, interestingly, that's the lightest masons they're very light 139 for the, the

positive pion.

That's kind of weird because you'd think what's two quarks, it ought to be two thirds the mass of a proton, but it's

much less than that, because the binding energy is so strong and that creates a great mass defect.

All masons are bosons, because when you add

to spin half particles, if you see if they're the same, you get spin one, if they're opposite you get spin zero,

which means masons are bosons, even though they're made of particles that are fermions.

And that's wild because that means, you know, bosons, you can all put them in the same quantum state, you can put as many

masons into the same state as you want, despite the fact that they're made of particles that cannot do that.

I find that very weird, but kind of mind blowing.

All masons are unstable.

They decay in a tiny fraction of a second, you might think, well, they can't be remotely important to anything because they don't

last very long.

But it turns out, the reason that that protons and neutrons stick together is

due to masons.

There's, there's energy color energy associated with a strong force surrounding a proton.

And from that energy that energy can form temporary masons, which can travel from

proton to neutron back and forth and that creates an attractive force between the And so without masons,

even though they're temporary, and they're constantly being created and destroyed in the atoms of your body.

If they weren't there, the nucleus of the atom would fall apart.

And so we couldn't exist, the only atoms that could exist would be hydrogen.

And so again chemistry would be impossible.

So there's other families of masons I won't go into that I want to get to the bosons now.

So the fermions are what you're made of, and the bosons are kind of what glues together what you're made of.

Four of the five families of bosons are associated with one of the fundamental forces of nature.

You have photons particles of light.

If you have you ever wondered how this electron over here that's negatively charged repelling this electron is negatively charged, how do they know

that they're there.

I mean it's not like they're in direct contact, it's not like he has eyes and he can see that one.

How does this electron know about that one.

And the answer, apparently, is that from from the energy surrounding these

electrons photons, what are called virtual photons think of them as a temporary photon can form

and travel from one particle to the other, communicating with it basically saying hey, move away a little

bit, or come a little bit closer if they're oppositely charged.

So, kind of weird so virtual photon is one that you don't actually see it but

mathematically it's, it seems to be there and it communicates it allows charged particles to communicate.

Photons have no mass, if you could stop a photon, it has zero mass.

It has no electric charge.

It has no color charge, it's just barely there.

The only real property it has is spin.

So you have this object that has no substance to it, but it's spinning, and that gives it some of the

properties that it has it's what makes the electromagnetic force repulsive between like

like charged particles.

So that's the photon.

They're stable.

They can't decay into anything because particles can only decay into less massive particles can have less mass

than no mass, therefore photons are stable.

And they are their own antiparticle, because if you reverse a photon you get a photon, you reverse the charge

photon.

They're their own antiparticle that's often the case with those zones.

Another particle and this is the only one that hasn't been experimentally detected.

It's called the graviton, and basically, we know what properties it would

have to have because of the way gravity works so it's again it's one of those mathematical things.

We know what it has to be like even though we haven't physically detected one yet.

In the same way that photons transmit information about electric fields, the graviton is supposed to transmit

information about masses, and that causes the planets to orbit the sun, it creates that force of gravity.

Gravitons would have to have a massive zero otherwise gravity would have limited range, we know it's unlimited it works on

cosmic scales.

Gravitons have an electric charge of zero.

They have an infinite half life they're stable, because there's nothing less massive to decay into, and they have a spin of

two, which is interesting and we know they have to have a spin of two.

So, again for mathematical reasons if they had a spin of one, like the photon, then like

charges would repel masses would repel other masses gravity would be a repulsive force.

If gravitons had a spin of one so God gave him a spin of two and that flips it, it makes gravity and attractive force.

So, because they have a spin of two, we can have things like planets and stars.

If we didn't, those things couldn't exist.

Now with a strong force it gets interesting.

The strong force is transmitted by particles called gluons.

And while there's only one type of photon, one type of graviton, there's eight types of gluons.

They have no mass, they have a spin of one, like a photon, no electric charge, they don't

decay, they have an infinite half life.

But the weird thing is, even though gluons transmit information about the color charge, they also have color

charge and anti -color.

Like you remember how quarks have one of the three colors, and anti -quarks have one of the three anti -colors.

Each gluon has a color and an anti -color.

And so going from the top left there you have red, anti -blue, red, anti -green, green, anti

-blue, green, anti -red, and you have blue, anti -red, and blue, anti -green.

And you might be thinking, well there ought to be three more.

Red, anti -red, green, anti -green, green, blue, anti -blue.

So it turns out that gluons can't exist with the same anti -color, red and

anti -red, by themselves.

But they can exist in kind of a mathematical combination with another one.

And there's two mathematical ways that that can happen.

So there's two other gluons.

There's no easy way to illustrate this.

I can't think of any way to do it.

Just have to go and work for it.

There's two other gluons that you can't picture.

And the way they do it is they'll transmit information.

Red quark saying, hey blue quark, come a little bit closer.

And that creates that attractive force.

But because they have color charge, they also swap the colors of the quarks.

Here's how it works.

So in the top panel, that's the starting position.

You have a baryon with one red quark, one green, one blue.

And that red quark is going to send off a gluon to the blue quark saying come a little bit closer.

But the gluon that it emits has color charge.

Let's say it's red and anti -blue.

So the red, it sucks the red away from the quark so it's not red anymore.

And anti -blue has to counter out the blue, you see.

So it turns that quark blue.

And then it goes over to the blue quark on the right side where it is absorbed.

The anti -blue cancels out the blue.

And then the quark absorbs the red from that gluon.

So it swaps their colors.

So it's kind of wild the way that works.

We have the weak nuclear force.

And the main thing you need to know about it is it is involved in decay.

When particles decay from one type to another, it often involves, not always, but it often involves

these three particles.

These transmit the so -called weak force.

There's three of them.

The W plus, the W minus, which are antiparticles of each other.

They're charged.

And then you have the Z zero, which is its own antiparticle.

And they're highly massive.

They're very, very heavy.

You got the W plus and minus at 80 billion electron volts.

And then the Z at 91 billion electron volts.

And that was a surprise.

Physicists thought that all force carriers would be massless.

When these were discovered, it indicated that our physics isn't quite right.

They had to make an adjustment.

And that adjustment predicted another particle called the Higgs boson, which was discovered just a few years ago.

The Higgs boson, it doesn't transmit any force.

But what it does is it's associated with a field that fills the universe and

gives other particles mass, depending on how much they interact with the Higgs field.

Particles that don't interact with the Higgs field, like photons, have no mass.

Particles that do interact with the Higgs field have mass.

And if they interact with it strongly, they have a lot of mass.

The Higgs is the second most massive elementary particle, 125 billion electron volts.

Only the top quark and antiquark are heavier.

So there it is.

And again, so there you have it.

We've covered every particle, every elementary particle that exists.

Everything else is made up of some combination of those.

The particles that give you substance, that give you mass, are the ones on the right.

And really just the three particles on the right.

You get the up and down quarks that make up protons and neutrons and the electron.

You're made up of those.

But then you need the particles on the left -hand side to keep those particles stuck

together.

So all of them contribute in some way to making the universe the way God created it to be.

So we've seen that elementary particles exist in a nested hierarchy.

And you have some idea what that is now.

We've seen their properties are highly mathematical, whether you follow the details or not.

And the properties are just right for chemistry to be possible.

So I hope that was somewhat tractable.

I've never done a talk on this before.

It's fascinating, I think.

But it's difficult because quantum mechanics is difficult.

But I hope that you get a feel for these particles and why they have the properties that they do.

Some of them, like the top quark, I don't know that that's necessary for life.

God can be creative.

He can make things that don't have a purpose that we know of.

But a lot of these other particles have to have the properties that they have for life to be the way that it is.

And the fact that, for example, God created apparently exactly as many electrons as protons

in this universe, that's necessary for life.

Because if it didn't, then the universe would have a net electric charge, and that's far stronger than gravity.

You couldn't have planets.

Everything would blow itself apart.

So all these things are just right for life.

They're intriguing.

I hope that that sort of 40 ,000 -foot overview of quantum particles makes sense.

So I think I'll end there and take any questions that you might have.

Oh, boy, do we have questions.

Okay, so that was very interesting.

I think maybe a few people got lost, but they wouldn't admit it.

But for the most part, it was very interesting.

So I'm trying to decide where to start with our questions.

So you just at the end here mentioned purpose.

So given the fact that they have such a fleeting existence, what is their purpose?

That's my question.

Yeah, yeah, like the mesons, which last a tiny fraction of a second, and yet they're the glue

that keeps neutrons and protons attached to each other.

The range of the strong force in itself is probably not sufficient to keep neutrons and

protons together.

So even though these particles have a fleeting existence, they nonetheless act like glue.

They're created from the field energy, and then they're reabsorbed in the field energy.

But in the process of doing that, they glue the particles together.

They keep them together.

By the way, let me add to the series that I wrote on the website.

I think if you've heard this presentation, and then you go read the articles, I think it'll really help.

There's something about hearing something, seeing slides, and then reading about it.

It really kind of reinforces it.

And for people, I think we posted it in the comments for people

watching on Facebook.

Maybe not, but we'll make sure that we do that.

Okay, next.

So you also mentioned that they have such a fleeting existence, and you talked

about how they disappear so quickly, but how do they start?

I think you kind of touched on that, but that's one of the questions.

I think you used the word even born or birth.

How does that happen?

They're produced when an enormous amount of energy is provided.

One of the ways we can produce them is like in the Large Hadron Collider.

We slam together protons.

For example, if you slam together two protons, the energy from that is enormous.

And from that energy, some of these particles will just be born.

They'll be born from that energy, and then they almost immediately cease to exist.

And there are energies in the cosmos that are sufficient to do that, too.

There are certain reactions that take place.

Well, in the core of a star, you can produce neutrinos there.

Of course, they're stable.

But there are some other processes, like in quasars, where the energy is extremely, extremely high.

You can form these temporary particles from the energy, and then they almost immediately disintegrate into something that's more stable.

Terry, I want to interject for just one minute.

Dr. Jason, this is probably a stupid question, or maybe I'm not following.

But when you said that they slam together and they become particles or whatever it was,

energy, isn't there a law that says there is no new energy?

So it's just something converting into something else?

Yep, yep.

The total energy is always conserved.

Energy and mass, really the same thing, just measured in different ways.

So particles cannot really come into existence from nothing.

They come into existence from energy.

And so at least anything other than virtual particles, and even there, they come from the vacuum.

So, yeah.

So when we slam protons together, these are moving a

substantial fraction of the speed of light.

And so the energy, when they collide, is enormous.

And it has to go somewhere, because energy can't be destroyed.

And so a lot of times, it will go into making new particles that will come out of that collision.

Particle collision is the way to make new particles.

That's the way to do it.

And then what governs the spin?

So, because you talk about how some of them spin it in integer.

Why?

Like how, how, why?

God gave them that property.

The bosons, the photon has a spin of one, because that's, God decrees that a

photon will have a spin of one.

And it has to have that for the electric force to be repulsive for like charges.

If the photon had a spin of two, then electrons would attract other electrons.

You couldn't have atoms, things like that.

So their spin determines some of these other properties that they have.

But as far as I can tell, the only thing that determines their spin is God.

We can't change it.

We can't make a photon spin any way other than one.

We can flip it upside down, but make it spin up or spin down.

And likewise, the electrons, they have a spin of a half.

If they didn't, if they had a spin of one or zero, matter wouldn't be possible.

God has simply decreed that these particles will spin at that particular rate.

And there's nothing that can, can change the rate.

That's so amazing.

So, so Christopher, I don't know if it was him or his son.

He says, if the spin of an elementary particle cannot be slowed or speed up, but it can change direction,

when it changes direction, wouldn't that mean that it would have to slow down and then come to a stop?

And then to start to spin the opposite direction, would that violate the P law?

Oh, that's clever.

Apparently it's instantaneous.

When the particle flips, it's just this way.

And then it's that way.

It takes no time for it to flip.

And in the process of flipping, it has to, it has to, because the total spin has to be conserved, right?

So if it's plus one half, it can't just be negative a half.

It has to give off a particle.

One way to do that is give off a photon.

So for example, electron, let's say in a hydrogen atom, let's say you have an electron that's in a hydrogen atom.

Let's say the proton is spin up, spin plus one half, the electron is spin plus one half.

It would be slightly better for them to be anti -aligned.

Remember particles prefer to be anti -aligned.

That's a lower energy state.

And so in a hydrogen atom, that electron can flip, but it has to get rid of that,

that positive spin.

And so it'll give off a photon, a particle of light.

And the energy to flip it from this way to that way in a hydrogen atom is a

very specific energy.

And so it emits light with a very specific wavelength.

That's exactly 21 centimeters.

And astronomers can detect that frequency of light.

And we know that there has to be hydrogen gas there because it's an electron flipping from there to there.

So it does so instantly and produces a particle in the process that carries away a little bit of that energy

and carries away the spin.

I hope that makes sense.

But apparently it takes no time to flip one way to the other.

It's instantaneous.

Yeah.

Okay.

So here's a question from Facebook.

So what happens to the particles in our body after an animal dies?

Do those spins or attractions in the particles simply stop?

No, they continue.

Dead bodies and living bodies have the same particles in them.

It's just the chemistry is a little different when you're alive.

You have things moving, blood's flowing, things like that.

But the particles, they don't know or care whether you're alive or dead.

The carbon atoms in your body, they're going to keep doing what they do.

It doesn't change the spin state or anything like that.

They continue to exist.

And it's just the chemical reactions are different when you're alive than they are when you're dead.

Okay.

Next, can you explain what an electron gun is?

And somebody wants to know, is that what Kirk used on Vulcan?

What an electron gun is?

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I've heard that term.

I'm not going to, sorry.

I'm not going to get into that.

Okay.

Yeah.

We can accelerate electrons.

So that might be something along those lines.

But using magnetic fields, we can accelerate it.

And it's not how you make photon torpedoes either, right?

Right. Yeah. Those are.

Just checking.

Yeah.

Those are fairly fictional.

Then one of our young viewers is asking, can any of the particles time travel?

So, yes, in a way.

It turns out that mathematically, an electron and an anti -electron.

Mathematically, an anti -electron is just an electron that's going in the opposite direction in time.

And you can think of that.

It kind of explains why the force between an electron and an anti -electron is attractive.

Because the electron wants to repel all other electrons a single way.

Right.

But when the anti -electron gets that signal, it's reversed in time.

And so it says, oh, you mean come here.

And likewise, when the anti -electron sends out its signal saying go away, the electron receives it, but it's moving

in the opposite direction in time.

And because electrons and anti -electrons don't carry information, they don't have a

preferred direction in time.

But you can think of one as being a time reversed version of the other.

And there's really good mathematical basis for that.

But you can't use it to transmit useful information.

That's the key.

The rule seems to be information cannot travel back in time.

And if it could, then you'd have grandfather paradoxes where, you know, you can have

something and not something at the same time in the same sense.

It leads to a contradiction.

OK.

I was going to say, it almost sounded like time travel could be a

possibility.

But then the principle you just said for the logic, the law of contradiction.

So yeah, that makes sense.

OK.

Next, is the current lowest detection limit for mass equal to the mass of

0 .8 electron volt per speed of light squared?

For neutrinos, it is.

Yeah, we know that neutrinos have a mass that is equal to or less than that limit.

We haven't been able to measure below that.

But the way they do these experiments is really brilliant.

And they're looking for the slope of the line, and they're seeing where it intercepts.

And that should tell you the energy, the mass energy

of the neutrino.

But we can't detect it below that level.

We know it's small.

And we know it's non -zero because of the math.

Neutrinos have the ability to change flavors.

The electron neutrino can turn into a muon neutrino, can turn into a tau, can turn back into an electron neutrino.

And it turns out that the math indicates that if they were massless, they couldn't do that.

So the fact that they oscillate, and that's been detected experimentally, indicates that they do have a small amount of mass.

But it's beyond our threshold to detect at the moment.

Interesting.

OK.

There seems to be a contradiction between string theory and elementary particles.

If an elementary particle is a point, how can all elementary particles in string theory

be vibrating one -dimensional strings?

Well, they could be.

But they're at a scale that is so ridiculously small that we'll never be able to measure it.

That's one of the things that makes string theory totally untestable, is the

scale of the strings is tiny.

But basically, string theory is trying to explain some of why particles have the properties that they

have by treating them like vibrating strings.

And by changing the vibration, you change the particle.

It's clever.

It may be right.

It may be wrong.

Nobody can think of any ways to test it because these strings are so small that they're below.

There's a limit on the size that we can detect.

And it could be that elementary particles do have a little bit of size, but we can't detect it.

All of our experiments have failed to detect any size whatsoever to elementary particles.

So it's not necessarily a contradiction.

It's just string theory is one way of trying to account for the properties of particles that we don't really

understand.

Could I, could you, would you say that the string theorists are kind of looking to avoid God

and creation?

Not necessarily.

I mean, some of them probably are, but not necessarily.

So it is a creation, creationists do that as well, string theory.

Yeah, we're trying to understand the mechanism by which God assigns these particles their properties.

And it could be just fiat decree.

God's saying, you know, this particle will have these properties.

But there could be an underlying reason for it.

That is, you know, God is logical.

And so a lot of times we can understand, oh, God did it this way.

So because of that and so on.

Like the, you know, the fact that quarks are held together by gluons.

That's pretty neat.

We're understanding the way in which the universe is held together.

And that's not in contradiction to the verse that says in Christ, all things are held together.

It's just that we now understand a little bit of the mechanism that God uses.

And what an honor that God allows us to understand some of the mechanism by which he uses, that he

uses to hold his universe together.

Gravity, strong force, electromagnetic force.

They're not replacements for God's power.

They are God's power.

And the fact that we can write down equations that described and tells us something about the mind of God, that God is very logical and

mathematical in the way he thinks about things.

So string theory is one way of explaining how God may

control particles, basically.

And it's an atheist might try to use it to replace God, but

a Christian physicist might believe in string theory or not.

Again, we can't test it, but there's nothing inherently atheistic about it.

Thank you.

So, um, so let's talk about a little more of theology.

So on Facebook, we have a question.

The apostle Paul and Ephesians talks about the heavenly realm that is apparently where angels and demons

operate around us.

Do you think that the heavenly realms around us are made up of the same stuff or something entirely

different that we can't see or access?

That's interesting.

I think it's probably something entirely different.

We think of a spirit, you know, God is a spirit and he doesn't have a location in space because he's omnipresent.

He's everywhere, meaning his power is immediately available, but he doesn't require dimensions in which to exist.

And so that tells me that that's probably a characteristic of a spirit.

A spirit doesn't require dimensions in which to exist.

It doesn't have a physical location.

And so, and we're kind of, we're interesting because we have, we human beings, we have a

physical body and we have a spirit too.

And so our physical body, our brain, our mind somehow interfaces between the two

in a way that's a little mysterious.

I don't pretend to have all the details of that, but I think the spirit is something that's not a

property of the physical universe.

Certainly God created the spirits within us and angels, which are spirits, but I think they're probably

not part of the physical universe.

I have a feeling that they're not made up of atoms and quarks and things like that.

Okay.

We have a few more.

Are you okay?

Okay.

All right.

So we have a couple of questions on Facebook about dark matter and dark energy.

So I think there's some questions about whether or not you or creation scientists in general

believe in dark energy and dark matter.

And then also is what's the connection with quantum particles and that.

Okay.

So there's very good evidence that dark matter exists.

Dark matter is anything that exhibits a gravitational influence on something and yet we can't

directly detect it.

So you might think of like a black hole as dark matter.

But the weird thing is we think that a good fraction of the universe, like 90 % of the mass in the universe is this dark matter.

And that's rather strange.

It's kind of surprising that the most abundant substance in the universe is something we don't know what it is.

And it presents a challenge for these quantum physics theories because

according to the standard quantum physics theory, we've discovered all the elementary particles that exist.

So there shouldn't be, for example, a seventh quark or a seventh lepton or, you know,

a second type of photon or what have you.

We think we've got them all, other than the graviton which hasn't been empirically detected.

And yet, ordinary baryonic matter tends to radiate, it produces, it gives off photons,

not always in the range that we can see but in the infrared.

I mean you can take, or microwaves, you can go outside at night and see microwaves, if you could, if you could see microwaves they'd be there.

So, dark matter doesn't seem to give off any photons which which makes many physicists think it's non

baryonic, that it's not made of quarks it's something and that's hard for anyone to understand how could it,

you know, because it's got to be something that we don't know about it could be a state of quark matter that we haven't

discovered yet like quark nuggets there's a theory that that quarks can form in enormous

masses of quarks, where there's just thousands of them compressed into a small space.

And these have not been discovered if they are that's called a quark nugget dark that could explain dark matter perhaps

because it wouldn't radiate the way normal matter does so.

But there's good evidence that dark matter exists because we can measure the mass of things in space by seeing how stars orbit in their

galaxy by seeing how light is bent by the gravity of the galaxy that tells us the amount of mass that's there.

And then we add up the amount of mass we can see, and it's like 10 of the amount of mass that we know is there so dark matter, there's

good evidence that exists.

We don't know what it is.

It could mean that there's more to particle physics than the 38 particles that we know of it could be there's something else that

hasn't been discovered.

Dark energy is a little more theoretical but I think that there's evidence for that as well there's some evidence that

dark energy basically means that empty space has a little bit of mass to it.

And that and therefore it will exhibit a gravitational it actually, it's a little bit perplexing but it kind of

accelerates the expansion of the universe.

And there is evidence that that's happening but not as much as dark matter I think dark dark matters on very good

empirical grounds and dark energy is a little more theoretical but there's there is evidence for it.

So there's a comment here to follow up before we move to our next question.

On Facebook, somebody says, I love that secular scientists say there's no God but over 90 of

the universe we can't study or understand, because it doesn't respond to light, and we need light to study

anything.

God's mind is not limited by our minds.

That's a good point.

Okay, so another question how would you respond to those who say that realist interpretations of quantum

mechanics are ruled out by measurement experience.

Well, I'd have to pin that down a little bit to see what they really mean by that because

quantum physics it really happens so there's good evidence that these things occur.

There are some weird implications of quantum mechanics there, there's what's called the Copenhagen interpretation,

where a particle, until you observe it, it, it acts like a wave and or

a particle can be can have decayed and not have decayed at the same time until you observe it, but I

can reject that interpretation, and still do the math of quantum mechanics, there's

nothing inherently illogical or unreal or unrealism in terms of quantum

mechanics itself some of the interpretations people put on top of it like the Copenhagen interpretation are

a little bit I think absurd in the way that they're often stated I think they violate the law of non contradiction.

But I can throw away that interpretation and still do the math and let's put it this way, the model that we

have in terms of the way we think about particles and their properties.

We can make incredibly successful specific predictions about what will happen about the spectra of

light, based on the electron levels and so on and so it's, it's a very useful model.

Is it perfect.

Probably not there's probably improvements to be made.

That's not surprising but I don't think there's anything that's inherently anti real about

about the model, I think it works pretty well in terms of obeying laws of logic and things like that.

I'm not sure if that answers the question but that's the best I can do.

So, one more follow up to the string theory question.

Are the strings in string theory smaller than the plank link.

They may be.

I'm not sure they may be.

In which case we could never measure them, because that's kind of the limit on what you can on what you can do.

So, I'm not sure but I suspect probably so and that's one reason why we can't really find any way to

test it.

Okay.

Okay, this is the last question and it comes from Facebook at RMCF, so I

don't know if you know what that Rocky Mountain Creation Fellowship.

Maybe, maybe so.

A speaker, a decade or more ago talked about his ideas of atomic particles as spinning energy

rings, not particles.

Any comments of what you understood that to be about any validity to it still or

application to this particle physics.

Yeah, I don't think that works when I when I first heard about that I thought well it's kind of intriguing and I'm always open to, you know, new ways of

understanding things but it doesn't make successful predictions that quantum mechanics does.

So yeah, I don't think that's.

Yeah, I don't think that's right.

I think that that guy passed away actually and, and he was a Christian I have no doubt about that but I think he's

wrong about that.

So quantum mechanics.

I'm not saying that it's right in every aspect, but I will tell you it makes correct predictions about the

results of experimental phenomena, and it's, and it's, again, we, the math

behind this we've been able to predict new particles that are then discovered so that tells me that we're really on the right

track we've got a pretty good model here, it may need refinement, I think everybody thinks it needs some refinement.

But we have to be on the right track if we're predicting which particles exist and then and then finding them I think that's pretty

impressive.

I haven't seen any alternative that can do that.

Okay.

Well, that's gonna wrap up our time online so as far as our live stream for Facebook

and the recording.

So before we go off and then I think there's a couple of people who want to hang back and ask you one or two more questions if you

don't mind.

In zoom.

So but before we sign off, can you please tell everybody where they can find you and support your ministry and buy

your products because they're all worthwhile purchase.

Yes, thank you for that.

Yes, so we're at the Biblical Science Institute, and it's we're on the web, biblical science institute .com.

That's the way to find us.

We'll have a web store on that site you can go there and get our resources.

There are lots of free articles on the website, including a series on quantum particles.

And so I, I like to say I know I talked a little too fast but I wrote the articles really slowly so you

can take your time with them and let that sink in.

So anyway, in fact we have a new resource that will come out, just in a matter of days on it's actually a

series of Sunday school classes that I led on on logic and it'll be out on DVD within a matter of days.

So check back on our website for that.

And you can support us there too we have a partner donation tab if you want to support us we're we're funded

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And, and I'll remind everybody that about a year and a half ago you came on with us and you did an overview of your introduction to

logic course so on our list of videos, people can find that if they're interested in before

they invest more they can learn a little more and then they'll realize they should invest more.

And, um, and several of us have noticed that there's been a big increase in your

social media activity.

I was telling your assistant Denise the other day I can barely ever open my phone without seeing something so

I know Leilani is here tonight so we want to give a shout out to her and she wants to make sure that we remind everybody about your Facebook

pages.

Jason Lyle and Biblical Science Institute, so, um, and also a

few people, a couple of people have commented on the Facebook stream about the James Webb Space Telescope and I

just said we don't really have time to talk about that but you did write an article, two articles, one that

predicted what your predictions were and then one after the fact so we want to encourage people to look at that as well

and the video that you did with Dr. Faulkner and was it Rob Webb, I think from Answers in Genesis.

So those were good resources so maybe Dr. Lyle would like to come back in 2023

and talk about the James Webb Space Telescope, whatever it is.

I can do that, I'd be happy to do that.

All right, we'll book that.

Denise.

Okay.

All right.

And then of course, we are Creation Fellowship Santee and you can find most links to most of our past

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And with that, we're going to thank you Dr. Lyle and we're going to go ahead and sign off the live stream.