Woke Church - Get Over Yourself! (More KB and Neil Shenvi)

Alright, well, quick video today, because I got a little bit of a late start.

I went fishing this morning, and I got a largemouth.

The first largemouth at the local reservoir pond thing that me and my kids have been going

to.

So that's exciting!

But I wanted to let everybody know, I finally...

I had to have the talk.

That's right.

My six -year -old.

Last night before bed, I did my Reformgelical show with Matt Williams,

and my son AJ was up in a cold sweat, and he was reading his book,

and was very disturbed by what he read, and we had to have the talk.

I wasn't expecting to have this talk this young in his life, but,

man, I understand.

I understand now how this goes.

But he had read in...

He had read in...

I can't even say, keep a straight face.

But in his book, he's reading about the sun, and the solar system, and that kind of stuff.

And his book told him that the sun was going to die in five billion years, or

something like that.

And so we had to have the talk.

The talk about the word, allegedly.

That's right.

The sun is a big ball of gas that is eventually going to burn out,

allegedly.

We had to have the talk about the things that scientists think they know, but they actually don't know.

The word of God is very clear that as long as the earth is here, the sun's going to be there,

too.

It's going to be giving its light.

It's going to be there for seasons, and times, and things of that nature, and that's essentially how

it is.

And then in the new heavens and new earth, we don't even need the sun, because the Lord is so bright, he lights up

everything, and all of that kind of thing.

So yeah, I guess, allegedly, according to the science, we had to have the

talk that not everything you read in a book from a man in a lab coat is real.

There's a lot of stories that they tell.

And this is one of them, that the sun will die and burn out.

So never fear, my son, never fear.

Don't worry about the five billion years that we won't have the sun anymore, and all that kind of thing.

That's all alleged.

Allegedly.

That's an important word, allegedly.

Anyway, but I wanted to also talk about this real quick.

This I thought was so interesting.

Dave sent this to me.

Tax Slave Dave is what he goes by on Gab.

And these are two Big Eva tweets.

And they're strikingly similar.

This is what Russell Moore said previous.

A batch of breakthrough COVID has hit our house.

Maria feeling okay, the older vaccinated boys were fine all along.

I feel like I've been run over by a bulldozer.

Still nothing compared to what others are experiencing around the world.

Grateful.

And so he writes this tweet.

And then John Rowland here, much lower level wizard.

Lower level evangelical wizard here.

I'm using a lot of Big Bear terms today.

I don't know, I'm in a Big Bear mood today.

John Rowland says essentially the same thing.

A batch of breakthrough COVID has hit our house.

It's the same sentence to open this tweet.

And then he talks about his wife.

My wife and I have been Pfizer vaccinated.

And then he goes like this.

I don't really know what that's supposed to mean.

But feel beat.

It is nothing compared to what others are experiencing without vaccination.

Grateful.

Please get vaccinated.

It's remarkable because the wording is almost identical.

And the structure of the tweet.

So maybe, I mean John did it second.

So maybe he saw Russell Moore's tweet and thought to himself, wow.

That was such a great tweet.

And look how good it made Russell Moore look.

Maybe I'll say the same tweet and I'll get the same engagement.

And Russell Moore got 1 ,000 likes, 100 comments.

And John Rowland here, I mean it's two hours later.

But he only has one comment.

It's identical though.

And so it's like who is writing these tweets?

Did they just get an email?

Okay, here's the new message.

This is what we're going to send.

You got the breakthrough COVID and your wife.

And then talk about yourself.

And then say get vaccinated because even though it doesn't work.

Even though the vaccine doesn't work, you might stay out of the hospital.

But, you know, even before the vaccine, you're probably going to stay out of the hospital too.

So it doesn't work.

The vaccine doesn't work.

But these guys are on message.

This is remarkable how it's an identical tweet.

So he either plagiarized the tweet or they got their marching orders and said, okay, here's how you compose the tweet.

And here's what you say.

This is just so gross, man.

This is gross.

But anyway, let's continue this.

I got a lot of mixed feedback on this one.

And that's kind of what I expected because I felt like it was kind of boring.

Some of you agreed with me that these two are kind of boring, at least this conversation I'll say.

But some people said I should finish this.

So let's give it another shot.

Let's see if it gets any more interesting.

I heard it does.

So we'll see what happens.

But let's just give it a little bit of time.

I won't do a lot today.

But Southside Rabbi, they're going to give us some knowledge, I guess.

And also I've heard that this big Fauci shirt is an anti -Fauci shirt.

Which I'm not sure if it is.

But either way, though, this is ridiculous.

I think about it, again, as a young man from Southside St. Petersburg, what it meant for me

to be in kindergarten.

And before I was aware of anything called reporting journalism, before I knew anything

about what was happening in anybody's ivory tower.

I went to my predominantly white school.

Oh, no.

And I came home probably about three months into my time being there.

This is my first experience really with the dominant culture.

Or what we would call majority culture, rather.

White people.

I came home and I pulled my mother aside.

And I said, hey, I don't want to be black anymore.

I want to be white.

Same thing Shailen Sun said to him, too.

Are you familiar with Shailen?

For Gospel Coalition, talking about how his son said the same thing to him in 2020.

This is 2020.

So this was years ago.

Because I'm 32 now.

I was six at the time.

My mother and her boyfriend at the time, who later became her husband,

tried to sit me down and explain to me, here are all the things you should be proud about.

Hold on a second.

I want to comment on this story.

But what is this?

Is this a plastic thing to prevent COVID?

I just can't even believe this.

Is that what this is?

A plastic thing to prevent COVID?

I have to be mistaken.

This can't be a plastic thing to prevent COVID.

It just can't.

Guys, I don't know if I can continue this.

I just don't know.

How?

Plastic thing to prevent COVID?

It can't be.

Hold on.

Let me compose myself.

So the COVID particles, they go.

And then they're just like.

And they fall to the ground.

They can't really believe this works, right?

I mean, maybe it's not a plastic thing to prevent COVID.

But if this is a plastic thing to prevent COVID, it has to be an empty virtue.

They actually can't believe that this actually would work.

Like the COVID particles can't go up here.

And they can't go down here.

And they can't go around it.

Because I can't imagine this is too long.

This can't be.

This can't be real.

Guys, I can't.

Here are all the things that you can look to and find courage and strength.

You shouldn't think this way.

You're not less than.

And all their talking meant nothing to me.

Because that's not what I was experiencing at school.

At school, the black kids were always in trouble.

I was talking to my wife probably about four or five years ago.

She was taking me to the airport.

And I was explaining to her about what it was like growing up in kindergarten.

In particular, where the black kids didn't get to go in the treasure box.

And as a grown man, I started crying in the car.

You know what I'm saying?

I literally just left the gym the day before.

I got punched in the face by somebody as hard as they could.

I boxed.

And not a tear in sight.

But this struck such a chord for me.

Because what it felt like, it was this reinforced thing.

That my very neutral approach.

I'm a six -year -old.

There's no bias here.

There's no real gender here.

Just going to school.

No one called me the N -word.

There wasn't any overt.

I didn't see any KKK.

None of that stuff.

But I could sense from what I was feeling at school.

What does this have to do with anything?

What is he talking?

So we're talking about critical race theory, right?

But he's giving you this emotional plea.

And look, I'm sorry that this is how you grew up hating your own skin, right?

But the thing is, you can't just say, okay, now this is the black experience.

That's not the case.

Because plenty of black kids grow up.

And they don't cry as adults.

They don't wish that they didn't have black skin.

And all of that kind of thing.

And so the reality is that, okay, you obviously have a problem here.

KB, you obviously have an issue.

I'm not denying that.

And I'm not downplaying it.

But the thing is, that's your issue.

That's your issue.

And that's the issue of wherever you grew up.

And all of that kind of thing.

What does this have to do with critical theory?

So, okay, racism exists.

Everybody agrees with you.

Are you trying to convince us that racism is a thing?

Everybody knows racism is a thing.

I experienced racism, KB.

This is the thing that boggles my mind.

It's like, I've experienced it as well.

When I was young.

I don't remember if I was six or what my age was.

But I was pretty young.

And I remember I was in elementary school.

At least I know that.

I experienced teasing and this and that.

And racism.

Just racism.

That's all I'll say, right?

And somehow, I didn't grow up hating my skin color.

I didn't grow up hating the fact that I was Puerto Rican.

I never had that talk with my father where he said, here's the Puerto Ricans that you need to celebrate.

I never had that.

So this is the reality.

We need to figure out what the difference is.

Because I experienced things in school.

And I figured it out.

And I didn't end up crying as an adult because of those things.

I think about those things.

And I wonder.

I wonder to myself too.

I wonder if my kids will experience that.

Because my kids are half Puerto Rican, half white.

But they're clearly Puerto Rican.

I wonder what kinds of things they'll experience.

And how do I be like my father to never ever give them that excuse of being this poor

victim and this and that.

I wonder that.

Because it's a reality of my life.

But the thing is, let's understand this.

You need to own that, KB.

That's your issue.

And we need to figure that out.

But what I hate about this kind of a presentation.

It's like, KB says this.

Amin says this.

Shailen says that.

It was like this.

Therefore, that's the experience.

And therefore, it's everybody else's problem to figure out.

That's actually not the case.

That's actually not the case.

But what does this have to do with critical theory?

So racism exists and critical theory exists.

Racism exists and the fake critical race theory kind of racism exists as well.

So what Neil's talking about is the phony baloney, fake, ridiculous nonsense, white

supremacy, white privilege, all that kind of fake stuff.

That's what Neil's talking about.

He's not talking about the actual racism that everybody agrees exists.

But what always happens in these conversations is they want to equivocate.

So what are you saying?

Racism ended?

No, I'm not saying racism ended.

So what are you saying?

Racism doesn't exist?

No, I'm not saying that either.

What I'm saying is that so many people have a fake, phony baloney definition of racism

that is anti -gospel, that's anti -law, that's anti -Christ.

That's what we're saying.

So let's stay focused on the issue.

Now, it's hard to stay focused on the issue because people will start emoting like this.

I'm sure he did cry.

I don't think he's making this up.

I'm sure he was an adult.

He's a big, tough guy.

He just got punched in the face in boxing class and then was weeping about something that happened to him when he was six years old.

I'm sure that's true.

I'm sure that's true.

But that's not the issue here, though.

We're talking about critical race theory, not real racism.

I'm not going to deny your experience.

Sure, I'm sure you experienced racism.

Maybe it wasn't overt.

Maybe it was subvert.

Who knows?

Who knows?

I experienced overt racism and some of the subversive kind as well, by the way.

And somehow, I don't spend too much time worrying about it.

Listen, I don't really know exactly why that is, but it is.

And there's plenty of Black people that have experienced overt and subversive racism and all that kind

of stuff that also likewise don't spend any time weeping about it as adults.

I'm not saying that makes you lesser, but what it does make you is the arbiter of what the Black experience is.

That's what it doesn't make you.

Seeing on television who all the superheroes were.

I looked at all my toys.

All the toys that were being mass -produced were a particular race and culture.

Oh, man.

The horror, the travesty.

My toys.

My G .I. Joes, man.

When I had G .I. Joes as a kid, there was only, like, one Black guy and then there was one Latino.

I'm pretty sure he was Mexican.

There was no Puerto Rican G .I. Joes and the trauma.

Is that what we're talking about here?

I mean, is that really what we're talking about here?

It just boggles the mind that this is what we're talking about.

There was no Black superheroes.

Yes, there were, but there wasn't enough.

There wasn't enough Black superheroes.

I was just talking to my kids just the other day.

I was just laughing to myself on the inside.

I didn't tell my kids about this, but we were showing the kids old school commercials like that game

Crossfire.

I was showing them that commercial.

Then what came up was the intro to Family Matters.

They thought it was so weird.

What a weird show.

Why would you have a show with just a bunch of people?

It doesn't make any sense.

It makes no sense to them because they watch shows like, I don't know, Bluey about two dogs.

I remember thinking to myself, like, wow.

Back in the 90s when we were supposedly the most racist we've ever been, there was a show about this lovely Black

family and all this kind of stuff.

It's like, but if you talk to people today, it's horrible, man.

There's just no one to look up to, no heroes, no family to present.

What are you talking about?

There were, but even if there weren't, is this what we're talking about?

It just boggles the mind, does it not?

Man.

According to this, Puerto Ricans should be the most oppressed people ever because we don't even have like, there's no Puerto

Rican Pride Month, like there is Black History Month.

There's no Puerto Rican heroes.

It's either black or white.

Everyone's talking about black and white.

Nobody talks about Puerto Rico.

I remember there was a video I did.

What about Brown?

There was a guy who said, what about Brown?

What about us?

It's like, yeah, I mean, if you go by these people's standards, we're the most oppressed people ever.

Nobody's representing us.

Sure, we have Puerto Rican Day Parade in New York, but that's just New York.

Man.

I don't know if I can continue.

Let's just see if Neal gets another chance to speak.

It's the culture dynamic as well that was different from what I was in and it became clear to me that it was

better to not be black.

Yeah, it became clear to you, but that's your problem because there are tons and tons of black

people who that did not become clear to.

There are tons of other minorities because again, we're not just talking about blacks here.

There's a lot of other minorities here as well.

There's a ton of other minorities that that was not clear to.

And so it's like, okay, I believe you.

What does this have to do with everybody else though?

I mean, everyone has their own issues.

I've got my own issues, right?

Right.

So as I'm thinking about that and then linking it with stories of

African Americans all around the country and then not just the country, but there's also the global

aspect of this conversation as well.

We find similar concepts in Korea and in Malaysia, in

South America with the Morenos.

When I engage with all of that, I am often

struck by how critical race theory will come in and

explain why some of that is happening and I would agree exactly with the explanation, like 2AT.

And when they propose solutions, which is a separate thing, that's when my sort of

Christian worldview kind of goes off.

It's not a separate thing.

So this is one of the newer plays by the way.

So in the last couple years we've been talking about this thing.

There's a movement to sort of make, okay, the diagnosis is okay and it's the solutions that

are offensive.

It's both that are antichrist because the diagnosis comes from a

misunderstanding of the data, a misinterpretation of the data.

The diagnosis is also all jacked up.

They're both jacked up.

Now this doesn't mean that every single prediction or thing that they notice is actually false.

So like in other words, if there's something that they say is an example of racism, it

actually might be an example of racism!

Maybe!

But the reason why they say it's an example of racism is typically pretty jacked up.

And the reason why they get that wrong is because they want to start applying it to everything else.

Right?

So if a black guy gets lynched by a white guy, it could be an example of racism and a critical

race theorist might say, well there's an example of racism.

Okay.

Fine.

Fine.

But the thing is, every single time, but this is what the critical race theorist wants to do.

Every single time a white and a black get in an altercation, it's a racist altercation.

And that's actually not correct.

Right?

So some of them might be, but some of them might not be.

They might just be a regular altercation.

Two people getting mad at each other and fighting.

Right?

Like, so that's the thing.

So the diagnosis is actually all jacked up as well.

So keep that in mind as you're talking to these obvious critical race

theorists.

Like, let's just get this straight.

I'm not a -.

I'm not woke.

I'm not -.

Yes you are!

Yes you are.

Keep that in mind though, because they'll often try to say, well the diagnosis and the explanations are good, but the solutions aren't.

No, the solutions are terrible, don't get me wrong, but the diagnoses are actually also antichrist.

They're wrong as well.

They might accidentally fall into some accurate statements, but it's on accident.

It's on accident that they fall into some accurate statements.

Which is a lot of what we're seeing happening in the culture today actually

aligns with a lot of what folks have been experiencing for a long time, have been talking about for a long time,

yet no one cared, probably for the same reason why they're talking about it, because they are kind of outside

of power.

So the question was, the original question was, when you say it's

exploded, critical race theory's exploded, give us some more

context of what you.

Mean by that.

You know, this kind of stuff, I appreciate Neil because he's a very focused guy, way more than I am.

I get distracted way too easily.

But this is just a game.

Tell us what you mean.

You know exactly what I mean.

People are talking about critical race theory that never heard of it a year ago.

People are teaching in the schools critical race theory overtly that they never knew what they were doing, but

now they know.

It's such a freaking scam to be like, well, what do you mean by that?

You know full well what we mean by that.

Come on, man.

What you just described, I always say this when I do reviews, not everything critical race theory says is

wrong.

I'm reading right now through the corpus, the works of Robin D 'Angelo, who's the

most prominent critical race theorist in the United States right now.

Best -selling author, charges a lot of money to give seminars on racial sensitivity training.

But I'm in the middle of her book.

I'm almost finished her book.

What does it mean to be white?

And she's talking right now about the problem of representation in media

of black and brown people and talking about how our media representations of

blacks and brown people in movies, on the news, on TVs, it

produces these ideas, these stereotypes that reinforce, they're often very negative.

And even if they don't intentionally reinforce negative stereotypes, they do

reinforce what's called the racialization of society.

So you notice race.

You don't categorize people by like, some people have detached earlobes, some people have earlobes that attach to it.

When I describe some person, I'm like, oh, Amin has this detached earlobe.

He's a detacher.

Right, right.

But you wouldn't even, you'd be like, oh, Amin's a black guy.

Oh, see, but that's the salient feature I noticed.

I'm going to describe someone.

And more than that, D 'Angelo points out how you don't usually describe people as the white guy.

I mean, maybe if they're in the NBA, you're like, oh, yeah, the white guy, the Mavericks.

Right.

That's totally false, by the way.

That's completely false.

I often describe people as white guys.

I think this is a matter of which group you're in.

If you're black, oh, that white boy, you know what I mean?

And Puerto Ricans do the same thing.

Oh, it's that white dude.

Like, that happens all the time.

That's false, that statement.

Is that wrong?

I mean, is that black dude?

Is that wrong?

He's black!

You talk about the Asian woman or the Hispanic, the old Hispanic guy.

So race is an important category socially, and even six -year -olds notice that.

They're not reading D 'Angelo.

They're not reading, you know, Kimberlé Crenshaw.

They notice that, and they pick up on these subtle cues.

Who's on TV?

Who are the superheroes?

What do they look like?

So everything you described, I'd say, yeah, that's true, and in fact, let's put this in a Christian context.

I always talk about.

For Christians...

Of course people notice.

Like, that's not the point.

I noticed when I was a kid, but the point is, I didn't grow up with a chip on my shoulder about it.

Like, it wasn't a big deal.

That's what needs to be explored.

What is it about certain people that makes it a huge deal versus others?

You know, like, we had Family Matters, and we had Full House, but we didn't have Boricuas

that had a house where they're like...

We didn't have any of that on TV, and you know what?

It didn't match my experience, because when I used to go to my grandparents' house, I'll never forget this.

We used to sleep in the basement downstairs when we stayed over at my grandparents' house in the Bronx, and every night they would

stay up all hours of the night playing dominoes and being loud and listening to, you know, Latino music that I didn't

understand, and none of that...

I never saw that on TV, and somehow I grew up just fine.

That's what needs to be explored, not this nonsense about, well, you know, we need to have a certain representation on TV,

and this and...

Like, that's nonsense.

People say, well, why should I care about the church?

Can we leave all that behind?

Because we're Christians, we're going to church.

Let's forget about all that worldly, secular stuff.

I said, now, wait a minute here.

Don't be naive, because all of us have a culture, and one of the critical race theorist points is

what you think is neutral culture, the default culture, this normal culture is

actually, often, white culture.

So people will say, like, well, what's the point of critical race theory?

Well, they have to say it's good.

I say, well, what kind of music do you play at church?

And they say, you know, normal music.

Normal music?

Tell me about your normal music.

You know, we play, like, Chris Tomlin and Matt Redman and Matt Poppet.

Okay, well, hold up.

That's actually a particular kind of music that not everyone will appreciate.

Now...

Right!

And who cares?

What's the point?

Like, okay.

So, yeah, everybody has a culture.

That's the insight of critical race theory?

Who cares?

If you want to have a church that plays black music or Asian music or Latino music,

then make a church like that.

This is the issue.

Who cares?

What is your point?

That's the big insight of critical race theory?

My goodness.

Maybe all people in your church like it, but you realize that you actually have a culture...

Like, you kind of get over yourself.

I'm going to stop this right here, because I'm super bored.

I'm bored.

You've got to get over yourself.

This is the response to critical race theorists.

Get over yourself.

Look, I go to a church right now that plays music I do not prefer.

Okay?

Whether you want to call that white music, whether you want to call that European music, whatever it

is.

Whatever you want to call it, I currently go to a church that plays music I don't prefer.

You've got to get over yourself, guys.

It's not racism if they don't play the music that you prefer.

It's not racism if someone doesn't realize that that's not necessarily normal music, but it's a particular style of

music if someone hasn't really thought about it.

That's not racism.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Am I off base, guys?

Let me know in the comments if you think I'm off base.

This is nonsense.

Get over yourself.

We have potlucks at my church, right?

And the food at the potluck is not food that I prefer.

Okay?

It's just that simple.

That's nothing.

That's not oppressed.

You've got to get over yourself.

But no, what we've got to do is we've got to insist on our own way and in the process, tear our churches apart.

That's what you've got to do.

I hope you found this video helpful.

God bless.