SFE Logos Training Lesson 2 | Striving for Eternity | Andrew Rappaport

To the computer and okay I think we're recording. So welcome to well okay I should say welcome to the second Lagos training from Striving for Eternity. I laugh at that because well I did do the first one I think it's labeled Lagos training one and that was oh about a year and three or four months ago.

So okay we'll try to do these a little bit more often than that. So sorry I know many people want Lagos training and some of you are really happy to get it well free. So because of that you like me. I'll try to do them more but what we're trying to do with this one is I posted a thing for some questions and tried to get folks to give me some questions so we could maybe solve some things that you would want.

And what I will say actually for those who are here in the room and I see Rafe you've already done it you found the the chat. So if you find the chat you guys could let me know stuff in there as well if I you know if you want and you guys can also raise your hand if you click on the participants you can raise your hand if you have a question I can look at that.

So I got to keep them on so if I'm looking at the camera and I look over that way that's because I'm looking at the people who are actually in here live which is not you if you're watching this on a replay.

Just saying not judging too much. No I mean you should have been here live then you could ask your questions but we'll try to do more of them. Anyway so I should introduce myself. My name is Andrew Rappaport.

I'm with Striving for Eternity Ministries. We are a discipling teaching ministry and this is just one of the many ways we seek to further teaching the scriptures and helping people in their understanding of God's Word.

The real big thing for me is harmoneutics. I want people to rightly know how to interpret God's Word and Lagos has been a really big help in that for me and so I figure let others learn as well. Now why am I teaching this?

Well actually Lagos has the Lagos camp and I cannot strongly recommend that enough. I actually I think Lagos and just so you understand I am a developer by trade and I do software development. I think Lagos is probably the best package software package I've ever seen whether Christian or secular.

I think it's one of the best I've ever seen. Does it cost a lot? Yeah but it's worth it. So I think that it's one of the best packages. I think that I also think that the Lagos camp with Morris Proctor.

Morris is probably the best instructor I've seen in anything whether Christian or secular with training. Just does a phenomenal job. I cannot recommend that enough. Okay if you can I think mpseminars .com or just do a search for Morris Proctor or Lagos camp and find out when they're in your area or contact them and have them come to your area.

I'm still trying to get them to come to my church but we just haven't been able to work it out yet. I got to do another appeal to them but I do recommend that strongly. So but why am I teaching it? I use Lagos.

I've been a Lagos user since 1994. Use it heavily and I'm gonna have to mute Stan because he types very loudly. Sorry Stan. So he's giving me a thumbs up. Those watching heard that. So Stan if you want to unmute at any time feel free.

But I'm a big user of Lagos. I've learned a lot of tricks and tips and things like that. I've been working we're talking before we went live. I was mentioning that I have been working on my Lagos library for a long time since 1994.

So I have probably about 50 ,000 volumes in my Lagos library. That's a lot but it's over a long period of time and well I'm Jewish. I want great deals so I wait for them to put big packages together. Yes I have a bunch of books I don't need but so that's the introduction.

I should I really should also recommend if you want to go to strivingforeternity .org and there you'd be able to find out more about our ministry. Let me tell you one also one other link to go to. It is the our partner page and so I got a shorter link so it's easier to do but it's bitly .com bit .ly .com slash SFE that stands for striving for eternity SFE Lagos.

So SFE Lagos that will get you to our partner page and we that gets you if you get the packages there you get I think it's 20 off and if you're just buying Lagos for the first time we have a bunch of books that you can get free that we have worked out with Lagos to offer you know so we can offer it to you.

You get them free with the 20 off so if you're thinking about Lagos and you want to get it or you've been using it on your phone or using the you got it free and want to get one of the packages I would suggest doing that.

So that being said let me share my screen because no one wants to look at this ugly mug I understand. You will get over the nightmares I'm sure of seeing this face but now you can see something better it's Lagos.

All right so as we look at the Lagos screen and now I got to figure out where my panel window went so that I can have that up and my chat window so hold on while I'm trying to make sure I still can communicate with the guys here as they tell me that they would go okay Rafe says you'd go to the the Lagos camp if it didn't but it was for the money.

So it is mpseminars .com and I would say to you know it's like I think $250. It is worth it just so you know not trying to pressure you or anything but go go so but no pressure no pressure. So all right what I have open what you can see on the screen is where you most people start is the home page.

I personally I said this probably in the last class the last training I did. I personally like this home page because well it was my idea. When I was in the Lagos camp Morris Proctor was commenting about the this page and saying how much he liked it and appreciated it and basically he's like I don't know where they got the idea to to do this and afterwards I walked up to Morris and said I know me.

Many years ago when they were doing Lagos well I guess became Lebronics but Lagos 3 they contacted a bunch of pastors and said hey we want to know how you study and they they actually wanted to design Lagos around the way pastors study for sermons and so one of the things I had said and actually in after Lagos I think one or two I actually gave Bob Pritchett I think 125 feature enhancements that I wanted to see in Lagos and by Lagos 4 every one of them was included and this was one of them and I mentioned it again when they asked how we we study and one of the things my pastor did was train in me to just randomly go to Bible encyclopedias and and just open to random pages and read.

One of the things a lot of people comment about me when I preach in my sermons is the fact that I bring up a lot of details from the culture from the time period things that really help people to understand the text.

Where did I get that from? Well that comes from 30 years of randomly opening Bible encyclopedias when I sit there and sip my coffee and just read articles. Well this is that same concept. Now they've included things like some of their their training videos which are good so I keep those up and you can just click on that and that'll play.

They have their excuse me their faith life today but you see random articles this is an excerpt on women's role according to Paul okay from Matthew Henry's concise commentary just randomly opened that that I wouldn't have picked up on doing just encyclopedias because that's not going to be an encyclopedia that's in a commentary it pulls it up here's here's another excerpt living as a child of the light okay this is out of Ephesians and so I could just scroll down and you can see a bunch of different articles that are out there that you know here's here you see some more architectural pictures and images so some some of those will be helpful because because there are things that you end up getting into where that's going to matter understanding the the the geography things like that here's some on Justin martyr on baptism that's something I probably wouldn't have read unless I was reading that book and so just doing that randomly you can just click on one of these articles okay and what you're going to do you can hover over it and read the article if there's more but you can just click on it and opens up the article and you can just read that one article and when you're done you can just close it and then go back to your home page and you're right back to where you were.

You could read another article you know and the nice thing about doing this is if you just invest a little bit of time over many many years you start picking up little details and some of the details what you're going to pick up is stuff that you may use much later in your study because you might go hey wait I I read something about that years ago I know this because I do it often I got I read something about Justin Martyr and baptism and that said struck me and maybe I go back to it.

So that is one of the reasons I recommend as a thing is to do that also what you could do on here is you have a prayer list and here you see my prayer list how I pray each day and yes so as you can see I actually pray each day.

I have 31 attributes of God. That's how I start my prayer. Then I get into thanksgivings and things like that for and so I do say that I some of the things with the logos is I have to to do them in order.

You see I had to number them oh one and then give it a category. So they're just a different way of doing prayers and I had to make it work the way for me. You can have reading plans in here I have you can see I'm very far behind on all my reading plans 2016.

So you could tell I really don't use the reading plans so much I should but I don't use it as as much some of the courses that I had have with with them. So really what this becomes is kind of a one-stop shop for just come in the morning.

If you use the reading plans I mean this is reading through Augustus but here's a reading plan that was set up for reading through Jonah. But you can have whatever reading plan you design. You can put a reading plan in here and just start with your reading plan.

Take a course maybe do your prayer have a random article and it's all right here. So this is a good way to start the day now I got to be careful because my pastor just entered the room. So I have to be very careful now.

But so so yeah so I do recommend it as a great tip for folks is just start with the home page. Starting with the home page if you set up the reading plans you set up if you have any courses you have your prayer list and you just have these random articles you'll get just getting into that habit becomes something really good to do.

So so let me go through some some things that we had questions on. Basically I came up with a blank hey Joe he's getting his camera set up all right. So one of the questions that I that we had was basically more going to be for pastors and the question was that someone wants to put they want to know how it's possible to take sermon notes and get them straight into Lagos.

So if you were starting a sermon one of the things you could do is go to the guides and do this sermon starter guide. Okay that's one way that's if you don't have like you're not sure what type of sermon you want to do this sermon starter guide lets you do.

I guess the last one I looked at as an example was judgment. But if I wanted to do something on judgment I can click that and this is gonna go through stuff to try to gather to help you start a sermon.

Okay that's for starting a sermon. But if you're working on a sermon what you want to do is go to documents and right here they have a thing for sermons and that's what you'd click. So I'm gonna I'm gonna open one that I started just um which one was this that I started for here.

I think this was the one that I grabbed all right. I just tried putting some some things in women's role in the church on first Timothy 2 8 to 15. So I just put some as an example if you want to end up using this so I put my title in here in the author and the audience.

So all this stuff you can fill out the occasion. This is really good if you happen to be preaching at multiple churches or and you don't you know you you don't want to preach the same thing at the same church or if you're uh this is really going to be helpful if you have someone that preaches more topically I think and they might go through the same sermon at the same church.

So that's where this would come in handy. I don't have a lot in here. I don't I just have the sermon text and and some things in here. But what you can do in here is you can include you can create um things that are handouts and questions.

So you have things that are just text. Um so if I just want to look at the text I could look at slides. Now if you look at the slide you see that I created the text and have it as a slide. You can create handouts and you can have a question sheet and so I leave this on all and so what you what you could do is you can um add a slide from selected text which is this first icon here or you can add it from references.

Okay that's so it's going to depend on what you're looking to to add there. Um you can end up having um I think it's the view that I want you can end up having different views with this. So what you end up wanting to do is if you have something that you want to you want to add something in and you can uh let's see fill in the blanks.

You could do that if you want to have something that's like a question. Um and by the way I should note this for some folks if you see it tells you how many words are are here and how long they think you can get through this this sermon would not take me very long to preach according to them it'd be one minute I'd read the text and be done.

Um I just want to float this panel just to get it so I can make it a little bigger. Um so if you're if you have this set up and you want to take this to your powerpoint okay you click on this here and you can say export and they give you a couple of choices.

When you do that you can send to Faithlife Proclaim. Now if you're a church and you're using something to do songs and stuff like that uh Faithlife which is actually the company name for Logos uh some folks don't know they changed names a few years ago.

They're no longer Logos Bible Software. They're Faithlife because they're more than just the Bible software and Proclaim is one of their other things that they have and what that is is their uh it's basically their software for worship services.

It allows the worship leaders to put the music in that they want. It allows the pastor to just click this and his sermon goes right in and that way they can organize it and and the the slide decks are everyone's working together on um so that's really good to have you.

They also have their Faithlife sermons. You can post it there but the other choice you have is to to export to powerpoint. And so you have the choice here of doing fully rendered or editable editable.

So you can you can choose that and then I'm going to close that out but that would be how you get your sermon. If you have your sermon notes using the the uh document sermons that's how you can get that right into um into powerpoint.

So that was pastor Justin Pierce's question. Uh pastor Jim Osmond had a more fun one for us to do. Um so so I'm trying to. So Rafe said you said uh the window that shows the send options are not showing you may need to share the oh okay so you weren't showing seeing that.

Okay I guess because I will do that again. Thank you. Uh so let me pull that up again. Oh I didn't want to do a new one. Okay if you do that by the way let me if you accidentally do that what sometimes it'll do is create a untitled uh document so let me show it again.

If you go right up to here now you see this icon here there's a little arrow right there and if you click on that okay it has your drop down and you can print from here or export and what we want to do is export and so here's the faith life proclaim here's the faith life sermons and then here is the excel and so you can do fully rendered or editable text you could say next which you know would then bring this up and I can then you you can you probably can't see because it probably isn't showing since I'm not sharing the whole desktop which I guess I should have uh let me let me just do that just so we don't have.

Well I'll try not to bring anything up in separate windows. So so so for pastor Justin that's how you do that. Um and let me just and if you guys who are here I'll just uh for you if if you guys look at the bottom of your screen uh there's a thing that says participants and under the participants there is a thing to raise your hand.

So if you raise your hand I keep looking over at to see if anyone has their hand raised so that I can answer any of your questions who are here live. And so Joe is raising his hand over and over and over he's he's raising his hand unraising it raising and lowering and raising and lowering it.

He's clearly abusing the I should put the video on so you could see what he was just doing. He was raising his hands literally in the camera and putting them down all right. So pastor Jim Osmond from Idaho by the way just did a podcast with him um on the rap report.

If you've not subscribed to the rap report I recommend you to listen it's a two-minute daily podcast so you can get through it pretty quick. But every week we do a weekly one that's an hour long and uh we have some interviews coming up over the next couple and pastor Jim Osmond has written some books on spiritual warfare and things like that and uh selling the stairway to heaven things like that.

So it was good interview uh but not one that was very serious because he and I like to joke around but he had a serious serious question he wanted he asked can you please demonstrate how to tell how many times a certain greek word is used in the original text.

How many times any form of the greek word is used in the original text. How to find the same word in the spittuogen that's the greek translation of the old testament for those who don't know. And then how to generate a list of those occurrences and the references uh per the spittuogen versus new testament in a word form.

So I have a bible. Let me open up my my bible here and that probably didn't need to be the whole screen. Let me just let me just close it and do this. Okay. So here's my and I don't know why I just prefer my bible on the left.

But so here is um now I'm going to point something out just because some may see it and we'll get back to this later. But you've heard of the red letter bible the red letter uh translations where they put the words of christ in red.

And some of you may be looking at this and go wait a minute. What's with the purple and the blue. We'll get to that later but that's really cool. But I'll tell you right now if you look at my bible uh here anything that's in purple is going to be um an imperative and anything in blue is a uh is going to be a uh.

Um oh I'm drawing a blank on the word. Well I'll tell you how I can find out. I'll just show you real quick if I go to this is what's called a visual filter and that is oh and I mislabeled these because they're not longer they're not the imperatives anymore.

Um let me just uh they are my. Oh why am I drawing a blank on the word uh I don't even see it here. Okay I'm going to get back to that because I forget what. Um oh that's why. Because I did the wrong letter.

Right. No. Okay. Well let me let me show that what this is since I brought it up and then we'll get back to his. So I have what's called a visual filter and let me bring the Hebrew one up because they're a little different and we'll get back to these later.

But what I have here is this looks really crazy doesn't it. This is at sign a what you do to get this. Um so definitive article that's what it is. Um I'm sorry about that but um so I'm going to change this because this is more than just the imperatives.

That's how I started it. I was playing with this but what this allows you to do is visually color code or or you can do other things. I can change that blue to a to a red highlight and when I do that and come back everything becomes red highlighted and so you could do some different things.

I'm going to show you later how this becomes really really important um for some things that you want to do. But I started this really because I really wanted the I actually had the imperatives. Every imperative in whether in Greek or Hebrew I had is red which then made a problem when I got to a red letter Bible and realized that that was probably a poor choice of color but if I see anything in purple I immediately know in the Greek it's a command.

So that was one of the things. So the way I did that here in the Greek is to start this. You do the at sign and you have a choice. Now if you just hover over something it's going to tell you this is an adverb and what an adverb is.

They'll tell you what an article is and and so on what a noun is. Okay but I wanted verbs so I click on verb and you'll see that it put a v up here and then I have a choice of different types of verbs.

Okay so I can do each of these different uh verbs that I would want. Well I wanted the imperative so I clicked on imperative but I can choose you know if I wanted a future imperative or maybe a present imperative I could choose multiples of these.

Okay so I can go like that and it's going to select you know each of those so you can choose between those and then what you do is once you have your choice you can then choose how you want that to visually show in all caps and so you see there's a lot of different choices that you have.

I'm going to choose this one just because I have no idea what that'll look like and just to see. Okay there we go so there it just puts a big arrow pointer in my in the margin where where that is I can put it on fire and so somewhere on this line we should get yeah so there we have some words on fire and and do note that this one was this imperative and and this one even though this is present imperative picks up different stuff.

This is no longer purple because the second one file comes after it. So these go in order this word take because on this one we had chose a present imperative with this one must not be a present imperative.

In fact it's an aorist imperative and so this one's going to stay purple just sun to be aware of and then you can get rid of them by clicking on this little delete and that'll be gone. I'm going to come back to this later because this was a trick that I used to verify something that a lot of people say when it comes to the book of genesis and the word yom the the day the weather the day literally means a 24-hour day.

So stay tuned for that I want to first answer pastor Jim's question. So we come in here and we want to look up a greek word and so I will close these out so we don't get distracted. I'm going to look up the word pursue and I have not done this beforehand.

I what I did was I right clicked on the word pursue and I want to go to this one with the rings on it. Okay this is called the lemma for folks who may not know or didn't watch the previous class that we did a lemma is going to be like a dictionary lookup.

You have the word loved and you go to look it up in the dictionary. Well you don't look up in a dictionary you don't look up loved in the dictionary. And what I'm going to do actually I want to share my desktop just so that just in case you're not seeing the pop-up screens I want to make sure so I got to bring my chat up.

So Rafe if you could when I pull my chat back up just let me know come on all right let me just let me know if I'm going to pull up a side screen just let me know that do you do you guys see here the pull-up menu there.

Okay all right. So and uh uh Rafe just so you know um and for everyone that are that's using zoom and new to it um the one trick with this is if you go to the bottom and your um move that um if you go to the bottom and you'll see a thing for participants that's where you can raise your hand to ask a question.

Um and there's also a uh thing for chat and so but once you sense on someone privately then you get it defaults to just a private conversation. So uh just so you know so you may want to um uh if you sense on and you want to go to everyone just so you know so okay so I click out on pursuit.

I want to go to this these rings here and this is going to be your dictionary lookup. So like with the word loved you're going to actually in a dictionary look up the word love not loved and it's it's going to give you the definition for love and then talk about loved.

So that's what that is now um we're going to click on if you slide over to the right here I just spilled my water which is not good. Um if you if you go look at the right from there I can find what happened to my mouse that I just spilled water on.

Okay there's a thing that says bible word study and this is going to be the one place that pastor Jim Osmond needs to go for everything he asked so you click on that and you're going to see it brings up and and by the way uh another tip is let me close these.

You see these all popped up and they opened up if I close them these are all searches that get done if I close these and then I close that word study and I do that same thing again it is going to remember where at what.

However I had it last. So now all those are going to come up and they're going to be closed. That is helpful if you want to look things up quick. It's good to sometimes always leave things like this so that you don't have that um showing up and having to wait for for things.

Um who's ever playing. Please stop. People are drawing on the screen playing with the tools. Sorry I should have known it was John Wilkinson. Uh by by the way I should. John did a great job at editing the last rap report.

He just should have put the the you got to listen to the end. You just got to listen to the end because he put the uh phone message that we laughed about with pastor Jim at the end of that. But anyway so um so here what we're going to look at is that lemma.

That's that dictionary definition. Um this one this top one is just for you to put some descriptions and stuff that you want to put in there. Here's going to be the lemma. It's going to tell you from here you can click on more and it's going to go through all of your um you know whatever tools you have.

If you have the package and you want to hear how it sounds you can click this dioko and you can now know that that's pronounced dioko. Um you can with one click if you need to click on any of these just click on it and it brings you right to that word in those volumes.

I obviously have too many language works. What you can also do in here though if you are familiar with the morphology charts you can click on those and what this does it gives you all of them in how this word how many times this word is used in the different forms.

Um this is one of the questions he wanted to know. So just one click you can bring up this morphology chart and you can see the in this case we have this verb and you can see the meaning here. Um you can quickly gather just from this all the places that it ends up getting used in in the different ways.

So um so that's going to be one of the questions that was his second question. Um he wanted to know how many times this word appears. Well what I could do is first I'm going to go to the translation mine is the esv and if I look right over here okay I can see that this greek lemma is used 45 times.

I can see how it's translated. If I want to see the words that times that it's translated just persecute. I can click on that but that's not the case for ours. Ours it was translated pursue. So I click on this one and I can quickly see it's eight out of 45.

Here's all those verses that's translated out this way. If I want to get all of them I can just click on this word itself and that's going to give me. I clicked on twice. Sorry I click on it and that gives me here's persecute is 30 out of 45.

Here's pursue seek press. Now if I want to as he had wanted to know he wanted to generate a list from here. Um what I can do is uh up here in settings by the way I can change which translation in case you want to do that I closed that.

Sorry about that. Um what I can do is if I go to this top bar and I right click I can say save as passage list and I click on that and that brings up all of those words in the greek how they were by the way that they were translated you know that grouping and I have them all here.

Now the nice thing is if I'm going through this and using this for some reason I can actually do some things in this. I can say well you know I read this verse and that's that's not one of that I want in my list.

I could just delete that. I don't want this one I delete it. I don't want this one I delete it. I want to give it a different heading. Well I I can go and do that. I can just click on this little pencil icon and I can change whatever I want.

Maybe I just want to delete those I can maybe on this one. I want to give it a new heading. Well if I want to give it a new heading I right click on uh let's see. Nope not there. I right click on here and you see it'll say insert heading.

And now it gives me a heading and I can click on my pencil and I can just say new heading. Now by the way if you look up top here I have 42 passages but if I delete one of them oh that's not good. Uh what happened to logos.

I just shut down all logos. Okay that was good. Okay we'll stop sharing till that comes back up that that makes for great uh a great logos.

Demonstration yeah. Why don't you tell people about your new uh uh equipped ohio while it's.

Loading while it's loading yeah uh I'd have to get the date. Uh what was the date. That was the first weekend in june is equip ohio. Um so let me go back to sharing the desktop. Um that'll be up in. Uh we'll probably get some information on it but it's a replacement to what was ohio fire um and uh that you know we we have a definitely professional setup here we're you know all right.

I'll uh professional. Yeah yeah. Well hey that was you know look logos probably is saying hey we weren't prepared to uh to work with um you know to to be working through uh you know video chats like this all right.

So let me let me go back. So I'll use this opportunity I bring my my bible back up but I'm going to bring my documents. I'm going to go to documents and now what I could do is I can look under and I have this organized by type so I could find it quick but my passage list and what I would be able to find is right here you see it was edited today is the word bible study that I was just working on and I can click that and I guess we didn't get our our heading changed.

We'll change that again to new heading and you see that this says 42 passages. Well if I go and delete some you see it's 41 and 40. So if you ever have to see how many passages you have they're right up there.

Let's go back to our word study though because the other question that pastor Jim had asked was he wanted to know about the spittuogen. So now this time you notice how my lemma comes up and my translation comes up but nothing else but I have this one right here that is my spittuogen.

So I can click on that and this is going to be this word in the spittuogen the greek translation of the old testament. And now instead of english translations you have hebrew so this word 45 times in the greek 77 times in the old testament.

And again if I want to create a passage guide from there I can just click right click on the top and then hit save passage list and that will take this list and it creates my passage list from there. Now one thing to note the last time what I did is I clicked on this word and it gave me all the verses.

I didn't do that this time. And if you notice here's where there's no equivalent here's where each of the hebrew words and all of the the uses. But maybe I only want you know those three. Well I can I can click that and let's see what happens.