Caner's Apology, the Pope and Word-Faithers, Shawn McCraney, and A Bit of WLC

I think it's Tuesday. Yes. I think it's Tuesday morning. It's at the we are at the right time. If you think it's the wrong time. It's because you played with time this past weekend and I'm really starting to think that that's a really bad thing to do and so we are.

Program Open and Current Topics

This is exactly when the program is supposed to start. We don't play with our clocks here. And so what can I say? Lots of things to get to today on the program. A lot of things queued up here. Video clips and audio clips and.

And all sorts of stuff just had somebody on on Twitter I mentioned some of the topics we were gonna have today including the Pope and the William Lane Craig and Ernie Cantor. And some man on Twitter says James really like you and your teaching.

I'm not sure what you have against William Lane Craig focus on Islam. To which I responded rather directly when you become the Holy Spirit, I will be concerned about your instructions my brother. I have been clear on William Lane Craig.

Molinism and sub-biblical theology is not the cutting edge of Christian apologetics and it cripples believers and the church. What is more contrast in the high truth of Scripture with the low truth of man's philosophies is very useful to many.

So I was fairly straightforward with that. But when people tell me what I'm supposed to be doing in ministry I sort of go, you know, you know, I'm the one accountable for that. I'll I'll answer for what we're gonna be talking about and you don't you don't need to be Overly concerned about that because you're not gonna answer for what topics were addressing speaking of which.

Obviously one of the topics is is this our regular caller? Oh, okay good. One of our regular topics. That some people don't like that we follow but there's nothing that we can do about it. We have committed ourselves to the truth of this issue and until it's resolved it just needs to remain That in that in that status.

I Saw and I have here right here FBC Jack's watchdogs are. Reporting as of today Bruton Parker alumni board member makes public resignation over Eric and Cantor. Meanwhile Cantor offers confusing vision for BP future.

I read the transcript of the interview with Eric and Cantor and I came to the same conclusions that these folks did. If the if the accrediting committee gets hold of what Cantor said there they're toast because what Cantor said in that interview was was just the exact opposite of What an accreditation committee wants to hear from the new the new president?

They will just absolutely be toast if they get hold of that, but they may not even care about things like that but Fellow by the name of Jeff Dickerson graduate of 1998 an Atlanta attorney has tendered his resignation from the National Alumni Board.

It's the National Alumni Board of the college. That's I mean, it's an alumni board. It's not it's not the Board of Trustees or something like that, unfortunately which remains unanimous in its calling of Cantor as president of the of the college.

On Facebook yesterday Dickinson posted quote,. I'm very thankful for the valuable life lessons. I learned while attending Bruton Parker College. However, I'm saddened and embarrassed by the new administration by the direction in which the school is moving accordingly I today tendered my resignation from the National Alumni Board.

And included some links to some of the better known articles discussing Eric and Cantor. From a ways back unfortunately not much from from the new stuff. So Another example and what? What crosses my mind?

All the time when I see this stuff I I've been seeing repeated over and over again in articles on this subject and we've talked about for example Calvary Chapel leadership and we've seen this a number of times people saying but he apologized.

He apologized in 2010. Now all you have to do is go back and Read his tweets from last year. Where he proclaims himself innocent as the driven snow. He repudiates every allegation. Everything that's been said against him as a lie those are not the words of a Of a repentant and apologetic person at all.

Just go back. We have them somebody somebody go back. Please and onto the blog and pull up the references. Where we've posted the Cantor tweets, there are there should be two of them. There were two explosions Just last year.

May have been even January this year. I'm trying to remember what it was. It's there was a second Explosion it was even worse than the first but In it he proclaimed his absolute positive Innocence of all charges that were were made against him so How in the world?

Can people keep going back to an Apology from the 25th of February of 2010 especially in light of what it actually says and Especially in light of the fact that while it was posted on the 25th of February 2010 on Ergen Cantor's web page It was removed at least by March 12th and The only place you could find it now is on somebody else's Website it's not on Ergen Cantor's website.

So which is it. If he apologized in February of 2010 then why is he saying he's been exonerated now Innocent as the driven snow. That's that's one of the questions that has to be asked. Here are some of the this is from the did it that it did a May 6 2013 this is the first explosion of accusations a first explosion of tweets.

And so if you just go to our website go to the blog on May 6 2013, thank you Turgeon fan for that. There's a second explosion of these as well. It says One file before I'm done never defend against false accusations accusations GS never did.

I won't either have a happy day blah blah blah. Then he starts mocking videos. I also have definitive video proving that we didn't land on the moon 9 -11 was caused by aliens. No, just a small band of cyber boys Etc etc.

I will not Repent for their false accusations nor sins. I did not commit ever in Summation I categorically deny the charges and those who brought them. So There's there's about as as clear as you can get that is Ergen Cantor May of last year, and then there was a second explosion later on that likewise Indicated the same level of Denial so There you have the What's that what's the date.

Jason on what you're posting here, I'm just getting tweets. I don't have the date as to when these were because I know they were in response to the Lutheran on on Twitter. But Anyway, so two explosions current stance from Ergen Cantor and his followers is Completely exonerated completely innocent nothing to apologize for so you've got these two different different things going on here.

Where you have some people saying that he's apologized and in other people saying he never did anything wrong. And that's his perspective. He is the one Who says I I've I never did anything wrong. I I'm just that's just all there is to it.

So that was okay. That was the 29th of February. I thought it was right around December I thought was right toward the end of the year in January or December, so it's December 29th of 2013 so I Went back and got the apology.

And I want to ask Anybody who is making the excuse well, you know Ergen's apologized cut him some slack you're not showing any grace okay in in light of What he has said and yeah 2013 yeah 1230 yeah the next day you go to December 30th on our website you will see the entire list of those.

Yeah, I would if I had and after the others repent of slander. So he's he's saying I would repent if I had a reason to repent, but I and I am absolutely unrepentant in all caps in fact something tells me if this was 1999 it would be in blink.

Remember blink in HTML. You know or flash depending on I'm absolutely Unrepentant of your made-up and already disproven charges from five years ago. I won't confess to whites lies or white trash. Yeah, I told you it's worse than the ones in in May in fact.

So there you there you have Ergen Kanner today. But on the 25th of February 2010 he posted on his website statement released on 25 February 2010 why did he post this here. Because I had caught him this was the first Encounter we had had the first exchange of emails we had had prior since 2006.

So three and a half years had passed Since our last contact and I've told the story before what had happened is he had appeared on the Pastors perspective the Calvary Chapel program had attacked me directly and that had gotten my attention and Because I started commenting and did a video exposing again the fact that he was Inaccurate and untruthful in what he had said on the Calvary Chapel program.

That's when Muhammad Khan contacted me and said did you know? That he claims to have debated Shabir Ali, and I said you have to prove that to me. He put the video together sent it to me and That's what started all of this.

I once I got to London I wrote to Shabir Ali, Shabir Ali said he'd never even met Ergen Kanner. I wrote to Ergen Kanner. I provide Shabir Ali's specific words. Ergen Kanner's first response was this public or private.

I said it's as public as your claims were and So he said well, I'm gonna put something on my website, and this is what he put on his website. So here's his alleged apology. But let's let's remind ourselves this is February of 2010 and the vast majority of the information about Ergen Kanner's lies.

About the false nature of his claims Really came out and became established after This point sure Muhammad Khan had been Hitting on all cylinders for quite some time, but the information concerning When he actually moved here at this point in time if you had gone to the Liberty website.

His own bio said he came here in 1979. That was pulled very shortly after this but the vast majority of the documentation The the most damning documentation which demonstrate he came here before his third birthday and grew up as a regular kid in, Ohio.

That he wasn't running around being trained in madrasas and Beirut and Cairo and Istanbul to be a jihadist until his late teen years. That story was still out there. That was the majority story he had been telling for years as we have Documented over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, and what's more?

The information I had at this point Concerning his claims to have debated Shabir Ali was limited to the video That Muhammad Khan provided which is still available and here using the video Is This is all I had at this point in time.

This is Ergen Kanner Claiming to have debated Shabir Ali. Need audio. Okay, let's go back here. Let's try it again.

Nadia Ahmed, I can't hear. They always end at the same point. So what if Jesus did die because the Quran teaches somebody died.

So what if Jesus did die. What's that matter to me. Radically redefined. Grace with Allah simply means he does not kill you. He allows you life and that's grace. There is no such thing as grace being unmerited.

Favor given to one who could not do for himself. You can do for yourself. One of the number one lines that Shabir Ali the Muslim apologist gave me at a debate was why does one man? Have to die for me.

What does one man's death have to do with my life and it. So there's there's. I have no idea I'm just saying there's. Ergen Kanner.

I hope you could hear it because I was cutting in and out and it's really staticky on my end. So hopefully it sounded all right on your end. You could hear it sound. All right. Well, I I don't have access to that stuff.

It was all it was all working before I went to. I haven't touched anything. So anyway. So there's there's the claims. That's all I had that that's all I had was two references from 2007. Now we know that it wasn't just then.

That night why is this important. Because in his apology statement, I'll Go down to it here. In his apology statement. D D D D D D. You know, he says I never intentionally misled anyone. He goes after me.

Where's the thing about? Well, he never mentioned mentions should be Raleigh at all. Criticism. No interest to me. Oh, there is finally there is a legitimate complaint that I must address. So I guess everything else was illegitimate.

Namely referencing a Muslim scholar that I have never met. Listening to the audio, which is what I just played for you. I honestly have no idea who I was referencing. But it certainly could not have been the man.

I referenced for this unintentional, but nevertheless horrible mistake. I repent for saying his name and ask the forgiveness of all those who heard it. Sin is sin and if I am dumb enough to say something like that I should be man enough to deal with it and aim to never make such grievous error again.

This applies to any time when I wrongly use names. I shall be more careful. That just sounds so good. And yet it's another lie. It's another lie. How can I tell a couple things? First of all. Those were two different programs and so what he should have said is listen to the audio.

I have no. I honestly have no idea who I was referencing in the two different times. I made reference. Really? So How about Abdul Saleeb? Who was that? How about Nader Ahmed? You never debated Nader Ahmed.

You had an email exchange with Nader Ahmed and you never discussed this subject. So you're saying that you you messed up on three names in a row and you have no idea who you were referring to. Who did you debate in Nebraska?

Give us the tapes. Give us the dates. You don't have any emails with these people's names in them. You went to Nebraska and debated somebody and you can't come up with anything. To document that you did that really?

How can you sit there and say oh, this was an Unintentional bull unintentional, but nevertheless horrible mistake. It was unintentional twice in 2007. I Believe it less now. Because now I have this audio from 2003 at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Stone-cold Steve Austin is what was said there. So there you have Eric and Kanner. You got a you got a nice you got a loose connection there. I can tell yeah. That's why I can't hear it. Excuse me 2003 four years earlier.

He's quoting what Shabbir Ali said to him in debates and even before the debate. Unintentional. Unintentional and if we had more recordings from 2004 and 2005 and 2006 I wonder I Wonder how many Others we would find so even in his written Apology, he's lying through his teeth.

The man can't stop the man can't stop. It is Absolutely shocking. So let's look at this apology recently a concerted effort has been made by a small group of professing believers joined with a particular Muslim.

That posts videos that would be Mohammed Khan questioning my conversion and the conversion of my brothers. Now at this point, I don't know who he's talking about about small group of professing believers.

Because all that was going on at this point is he had an email from me saying You didn't debate Shabbir Ali have I know him and He says he's never met you and he knows that the gig is up. He knows he's been exposed.

Maybe it's a prophetic thing. Anyway, and what saddens my heart immensely see let's let's start. Do you have any sad Music. Don't have any sad music. Nothing like it nothing like a violin solo, you know.

If you great and what saddens my heart immensely is this small band of professing Christians? How now side the Muslims videos as reason to attack my testimony as well. Well when the Muslims telling the truth.

Which you can't refute. Then isn't that a proper thing to do. Hmm. Indeed the Muslims have used clips that attempt to show that through two decades of ministry and hundreds of sermons there exists discrepancies in my testimony.

In all honesty, I probably could have saved them a lot of time and trouble. The truth is I'd be surprised if no discrepancies were discovered given the hundreds of messages I've given during that all that time.

Really. If it's your own testimony, why can't you get it straight? I mean, it's one thing to say, you know. Once I said 1975 I met 1965. But shouldn't there be a consistency? To where the one time you mess up.

Would would be an unusual thing. When the lies are the norm and you have to look around to find the truth. That's the case there in canner. Nonetheless while normally it is wise to ignore these types of attacks.

The Muslims videos now surprisingly being cited by professing Christians. Why if they're true. Have sadly produced such ardor that I felt the need to speak to the issue. This has been done repeatedly to Muslim converts.

But in this instance, I bear some responsibility to clarify now. Notice what he tries to do here. This has been done repeatedly to Muslim converts, this is the he's playing the victim card here and What's horrible about this is that he's right?

Muslims often attempt to discredit the testimonies of Converts to Jesus Christ from Islam and No one has helped them to do that more fully and completely. Than Ergen, Mehmet, Butch, Kanner, nobody. He says I bear some responsibility.

You better believe you bear it, sir. Your unwillingness to repent has become the mechanism that Muslims can use to attack Muslim converts. Shame on you sir. Shame on you for that. Shame on you for suing people to try to suppress that and Shame on every single person that supported you for being a dupe willing to close their eyes for political and political and personal gain.

Shame on every single one of you. Audio fixed. You should replay those clips did not go out. So it wasn't just my headphones. Okay. All right. All right. I wondered. I wondered but you know, you're in charge over there.

So and you said it was fine. So, you know, what can I say? Oh, hey, this is being recorded. You were right. I was right. All right, here we go. Should be about right there. Let's see if this works.

Nadir Ahmed Shabir Ali. Every debate I've had with these men. They always end at the same point. Show what if Jesus did die. Because the Quran teaches somebody died. So what if Jesus did die?

What's that matter to me. Grace with Allah simply means he does not kill you now.

Do you notice that if you're not watching this if you don't look at it look up you see the The one that's being recorded by on a microphone. This is being recorded on the phone. This is faith and family radio August 27.

This is different things. This is two different times in 2007 where he makes the same claim.

He allows you life and that's grace. There is no such thing as grace being unmerited favor given to one who could not do for himself. You can do for yourself in Islam. One of the number one lines that Shabir Ali the Muslim apologist gave gave me at a debate Was why does one man have to die for me?

What does one man's death have to do with my life?

So there you have them Shabir Ali, Nebraska, Shabir Ali Nadir Ahmed, Abdul Saleem. We all know that every single one of those statements was a lie. And yet in this alleged apology rather than saying, okay, you know, I was just sort of making things up.

Instead what he does? Well, it's unintentional. I've you know, I just misspoke. This is what's done to Muslim converts. You all should be very sad for me. Because I'm being attacked and. And so on and so forth.

So he gives says my testimony I was born in Sweden with a Turkish father and our mother who was a Turkish citizen and Well would be nice to explain why you said many many times you weren't born in Sweden that you were born in Istanbul you did.

That's a fact it's indisputable. No one can possibly say otherwise and We know you have a Turkish father. Why do you say your mother was a Turkish citizen? I don't doubt that she was but she's Swedish, isn't she?

And that's why your grandmother is Swedish and that's why your only other language, you know is Swedish, isn't it arrogant and emir, right? So why not say you're half Swedish and Half Turkish. Well because it doesn't fit your persona.

That persona that you want to put out there. So I was born raised a Sunni Muslim just like my brothers up to a certain point I Sort of gets the divorce and that his father was the non-custodial parent and all that kind of stuff.

I was led to Christ Stelzer Road Baptist Church in Columbus, Ohio, just like my brothers. Okay, nothing here about when this took place. Because that part had not been exposed yet. So notice he doesn't mention it.

He doesn't mention it because he knows. At this point in time. He's just hoping. He's hoping that nobody's gonna find out it wasn't long. Before we did but no she doesn't mention it doesn't correct it beforehand doesn't say and you know, I've I keep confusing 1979 with 1969, you know.

That's six and that's seven, you know when you're half Turkish or half Swedish just look they look the same. I don't know he could come up with something under misstatements. Now on to the other issues.

Every minister has made pulpit mistakes. Being called a liar However is a serious charge especially when it's made by Christians. That would indicate that one the accusers can know the motives the accused person's heart and to the accused person intentionally misled peace people.

I have never Intentionally misled Anyone that has got to be one of the biggest lies I've ever seen typed By a human being because we know now we have so much information Demonstrating that that is not true.

I have never intentionally misled anyone. Not when I was claiming to have born and born in Istanbul I wasn't trying to mislead anybody and not when I claim to speak Arabic I wasn't trying to mislead anybody and now when I claim to have done all these debates in mosque I wasn't trying to mislead anybody and not when I said that my father Was a polygamist brought multiple wives and I said I wasn't trying to mislead anybody.

Well, I'm trying to mislead anybody with any of that. I was just trying to entertain. I Was trying to entertain folks. That must be it. I have never intentionally misled anyone. I am sure I have made many mistakes in the pulpit in the past 20 plus years.

And I'm sure I'll make some in the future for those times where I misspoke said it wrong. Scrambled words or just outright was just outright confusing. I Apologize and we'll strive to do better. No specifics.

This would have been his opportunity if he was really honest to say and you know what? No one's brought this up yet, but I I I need to explain why I've said the things I've said about where I was born and when I came here.

No nothing. No Debates. A second questions question raised concerns debates one gentleman. Hi. I'm a gentleman. Hi. One gentleman believes it is misleading to call my interaction with people from other faiths and world religions debates.

Yeah, I actually think that debates have a thesis and a Timeframe and a moderator. Yeah, and you know most people think that Since his definition of debate is limited to moderated formal debates, that is his prerogative.

He can call them whatever he wishes my podcast readily available online through this website. If he finds them less than satisfying or helpful, then he does not have to listen to them. I Do not offer them for his approval or his attention.

Please feel free to look elsewhere. God has been gracious to call many Christians to practice evangelism apologetics in a variety of ways. Now there's an entire paragraph all meant to try to obfuscate the simple fact that here is a man who claimed To have done all these debates in mosques with Muslims.

And he didn't do it. Even if you go back and listen to his little chit chats with people where Deacons in oneness Pentecostal churches make him look silly. That still doesn't qualify. Does it all this is all obfuscation.

This is how do you call this an apology when it is simply an aid to continuing lying? That's what I want to know and the truth is several evangelical apologists Employ the formal debate template and are very effective in their presentations.

Norman Geisler Gary Habermas and William Lane Craig come to mind. Nevertheless, I'll continue to do exactly as I have done. In fact in order to attempt a measure of peace I'm more than happy to call my engagements interviews or even dialogues since this is historically my method of choice.

I shall continue to offer these podcasts here for the edification of those who care to listen again folks. Do you really think? Do you really think? That people would have been going to Liberty Seminary because the head of the seminary Had done some informal dialogues somewhere.

Remember remember what the context was? Debates and mosques. Debates in Arabic. Debates in all these countries around the world. You think they really been going there because well, you know Head of our seminary once talked to a Muslim in a hallway in Sweden.

Bear come to our school. Really? Hmm. Yeah, okay. But it's not for you applying to Liberty now. Let's not forget to couple that with the fact that their school is at the same time bragging about having The best debate team right in the country, right?

That's true. He's writing. He's piggybacking on that. That's true and They wouldn't consider anything he had ever done a debate. Yeah, no. However, I would caution all evangelicals that no single method meets consensus.

We're on our third paragraph now of utter obfuscation in the midst of an apology. What are these called air quotes? Yeah air quotes. They're called air quotes. Nor is there only one exclusively biblical model, of course.

Who's arguing about this? I've never said there's a biblical model of debate. I've said you can tell the difference between a debate and a non debate. And the fact the matter is Cantor doesn't do debates and I think I'm in a fairly decent position to define what a debate is done a few.

They don't ever argue that one. They can't argue that one. Especially when they can watch debates I've done with the guys that he claimed to have debated well actually two of the three and The other one there's no reason for me to debate him.

Oh Turretinfan, yes. Oh. It's good to have Turretinfan in channel because did y 'all see that book that Turretinfan wrote? Did our server crash from trying to even host that thing? It's so huge. But Turretinfan has reminded us That at the Ashburn Baptist Church in Chicago, he discusses the alleged format used in his debates.

And it wasn't just a well, we just sit down over latte. He just the man wouldn't know how to tell the truth if if it smacked him in the face in The midst of trying to apologize. He's lying through his teeth.

It is shocking. It really truly is shocking. Certainly, I'll try to keep a better eye on the channel there because People who are smarter than me are in there. Certainly, there is much good to be found in formal debates.

And I also believe there is enough room for all types of interaction. In fact, I believe there's great value to be found all the forms including conversational and informal methods. Blah blah. Then we have His discussion of Shabir Ali without ever mentioning Shabir Ali.

Finally, there is legitimate legitimate commitment complaint that I must address namely referencing a Muslim scholar that I've never met. Blah blah blah. We've already discussed that I won't repeat it.

But I've always felt that it was complete cowardice on his part. To Make this apology. Not only in the midst of trying to cover for it. Sticking that at the end of all this other obfuscation sort of burying it in there and Then saying I don't know who I was talking about.

I Mean to lie as your apology is just reprehensible. That's just reprehensible. It's disgusting. If I mixed up somebody's names, I mean Salfaqar Ali Shah and Abdullah Al-Andalusi and Adnan Rashid and Shabir Ali and Abdullah Kunda and Yusuf books and and Bashir Varnia.

I mean just going through the names of Muslims I have debated. It would be for example right now I'm sitting here. We've done two debates in a Presbyterian Church on Long Island and for the life of me sitting here right now.

I can't remember the names of either the Muslims I debated there. I can see the face of both of them. One of them was the head of the large mosque there and that's the one that was packed out. What? Shams Ali.

Shams Ali. He got kicked out after that interestingly enough, but I can't remember the second guy. Very small attendance and I can't remember his name now if someone Were to start throwing names out as soon as the right names thrown out and I'm waiting for algo.

It must be the delay. Someone throws the right name out. I'll immediately go. Oh, yeah, but if they throw the wrong name out, I'll go. No. No, no. That wasn't I'd remember. And my problem is I have debated Jay Smith may have debated more Muslims than I am I have but I don't think so I think I've probably debated more Muslims than anybody else in the English-speaking world right now.

If not the most real close to the most and I think David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi. If they're even close to the number of debates I've done would admit. Yeah, who knows it's toss-up. Um. Guy in channel just just said oh dear.

He's losing his mental faculties live on air quick go to commercial break. No, the fact the matter is This is just yeah. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead I have you know at the end of that shot on the other look at the other monitor.

What other monitor. Canada canner? Yes I Drop that right in there. Have you been tempting? Yeah, you've been tempting to throw that in. I didn't try to. I didn't I just that's just where I stopped it.

And that was the next thing. Now I could go to my website I could go to my list the debate will be listed there and I and I could remember and you know what we could go and find the videotapes or video recordings on YouTube somewhere but this idea of going.

Yeah, I did do a debate in Nebraska, but I don't know who it was with really seriously very very frustrating. To see this kind of lying and to see how many people Today are going. Yeah, but he did he did apologize.

He did apologize. No, we didn't this isn't an apology. This is a lie nothing more other accusations. Jalal no, it wasn't not just an SE. Jalal Abu al Rubeh was Southern California in 2008. It was not Jalal.

He was not on Long Island. So See, it's it there there. My memory actually is good. It's just when you have so many Arabic names piling up over the years and. And certain of the debates weren't as memorable as other debates.

Then no, but that was yeah Jalal was 2008 in Southern, California. That one I remember very well. As for the countless other volleys aimed at discrediting the work I do I am unsure how to respond. Yes Syed Z.

Syed. No. No now honestly, is there anyone in the audience that would go? Okay, I think I can see why you might have a little trouble remembering that particular one. Yeah Syed Z. Syed, it's even it's even hard to say but Farshad is correct.

Thank you, sir, for See, I couldn't remember that. I just it just didn't beep, you know, but as soon as it was said, it's like oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. There we go. There it is. You know what, okay somebody in channel.

Hit the hit the debate list. Try to make I have we updated the debate list with all the South Africa debates. Why can't I access that I will take. I Didn't think I could. I thought it was a sub sub sub sub file and I couldn't get to it.

I. Well somebody I thought we had updated it if we have. Somebody go through there, please while I'm talking here. How many specifically Islamic debates have I done so far? How many specifically Islamic debates I want to know.

I haven't ever counted up. Unlike Eric and Kanner who knew exactly how many he had not done. I'd like to know. Other accusations as to the countless other volleys aimed at discrediting the work I do. I'm unsure how to respond if my pronunciation of Arabic phrases is not correct.

Then I apologize the language of my lineage is Turkish not Arabic. Excuse me Excuse me doesn't the Norman Geisler excuse sheet. Say it the only other language he speaks is Swedish the language of my lineage is Turkish not Arabic.

Mm-hmm. Even Arabic dialects differ regionally such as Jordanian Egyptian. Well, how would you know? Indeed 80 of the Muslim world does not speak Arabic. So I doubt anyone will be fully satisfied this juncture.

The problem is he claimed to speak Arabic. Yes, no, I'm recalling when I did that video for you when you did the presentation over in Lindale, Texas, uh-huh. That the number I'd come up with was 27 and that was before before as before.

Yeah, South Africa I'm counting 28 here. Real quick on this list again before and so however many you did six of South Africa's that's 34. Yeah, okay. All right, 34. We'll see if that's if everybody else verifies that it's sort of like when we try to count members on at business meetings at PR BC and Ed and and brick come up with different numbers.

We have to try it again. Yeah. Okay, Micah says 33. We're getting 33 in channel but if I did six. See if the 27 was right plus six that is 33 and then you said 28 for some reason so. Yes, I do. I would include Hams Abdul Malik.

Yeah, I would include Hams Abdul Malik. Anyways, it's called live webcasting folks. So if we include Malik, it's 34. All right. Now some of them have been repeats, you know should be early and things like that.

But that's still an awful lot of names to try to remember but if somebody says Who did you debate in? 2013 In Linnesia, South Africa, I can figure that out. I might at a moment go. But I can find out when I wrote to Eric and Cantor and said so who did you debate in Nebraska.

This was February of 2010. It's now March of 2014 four years in one month have passed. And he still doesn't know. Still doesn't know you know why cuz he's never debated a Muslim in Nebraska. That's why and he knows it and he knows it.

Let's see. I must add. However, the misguided attempt by Muslim apologists to discredit converse Christianity is not limited to me. I am joined by many others. In fact, it seems to be a standard operating procedure.

I do not believe I can do anything to stop these attacks. All I can do is continue to teach that I have for years continue to serve the Lord with the best I can give. This just should disgust anyone. That he would throw himself in with innocent Individuals who have converted to Christ who have not padded their resume and lied through their teeth.

He's willing to use True converts to cover for his own lies. That should be absolutely disgusting to anybody. Disgusting this constant stream of criticism blogging and berating is not acceptable between believers.

I'm as guilty as anyone else in an instigating such things over the years, but these personal attacks are too much. I shall not participate in this anymore. But I will sue other people. And I'll send Peter Lumpkins out and I'll send Tim Rogers out and I'll use other people to do it.

What hypocrisy? Oh my goodness. Criticism is many times helpful in this particular instance. It has enabled me to correct the careless mistakes I addressed above. Really? What were they specifically? How did you correct the when you came here stuff and the jihad stuff.

And your father was a polygamist brought many wives and stuff? And the big family stuff and Where. Oh, oh that that comes later. Yeah, right. Nonetheless. I want to be clear about this current situation.

This constant stream of criticism blogging and berating is not acceptable between believers. I I shall not participate in this anymore. This is absolutely of no interest to me. So may the Lord judge between us.

May the Lord judge between us and You know a certain circuit court, you know, if he decides to sue somebody for posting the marine videos. Oh, yes, you just look to the map. Yeah that list my I have debated in four on four continents now.